Bachelor Happy Hour - Sandra’s Time to Shine!

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Sandra is in the hot seat and giving new meaning to the phrase “75 years young”! In her discussion with Joe and Serena, Sandra reveals her first impressions of Gerry, who from the house she was closest with, and why a little drama was inevitable. Plus, she explains how she and her daughter decided it would be okay for Sandra to miss her daughter’s wedding if needed and why she’s so nervous to see the blooper reel at the upcoming “Women Tell All.” Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Jemma's Begg, host of the Psychology of Your 20s. This September at the Psychology of Your 20s, we're breaking down the very interesting ways psychology applies to real life, like why we crave external validation. I find it so interesting that we are so quick to believe others' judgments of us and not our own judgment of ourselves. So according to this study, not being liked actually creates similar pain levels as real life physical pain. To learn more about the psychology of everyday life and, of course, your 20s, this September.

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Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I am Joe. And I am Serena. And we are here with none other than Sandra from the Golden Bachelor. Sandra, how the fuck are you? You know I had to leave with the fuck just because I know that's your thing. Well, yeah.

Just own it. It's okay. We love it. Okay. Hey, Joe. How are you? Hi. How are you doing today?

I'm doing pretty doggone good. How have you been feeling with all this craziness and your face on TV everywhere? I've been feeling great, you know, a little pump. And my friends tell me, we don't see enough of you. And I say, hey, it's a 40-minute show. There's a lot going on besides me. Yeah. Well, what we do see, I think, is everyone is falling in love with you.

We saw you play pickleball and you're flying around the court. We see you walk in. You're swearing at Gary, but you make it fun. I'm talking about out of the, out of the limo, out of the limo, is I have to ask you, swearing, does that help you calm your nerves? Because it does help me. Well, since Mike's stepping out of the limo, no. But before that, yes. Okay. What changed?

Oh, I don't know. You know, what I'm finding out is that the younger generation, you know, my oldest is 50, but that's a young generation for me. And young folks loved my limo exit. Folks more my generation, my demographic, were a little skeptical about that. So that seems to be the feedback I'm getting. Well, you know what? There's actually scientific studies that prove that swearing has like an effect on the brain, like some sort of like chemical release or release of energy that is, I'm serious.

I'm not Joe's looking at me like I'm crazy. There's something that's proven that, like, swearing releases, I don't know what it is exactly, but like endorphins or something that like actually helps you calm down or like it provides like a release of energy that helps you calm down. That's why people like swear when they like stub their toe or something or like they're frustrated. There's like an actual reason for it. So you can tell, you can tell your friends that. And that's a good one. Thank you, Serena. The however is that, you know, there are a lot of swear words out there.

And the F isn't necessarily America's choice or older America's choice, okay? Okay, so maybe if it was a different swear word. Yeah, that's okay. I feel like you came out and you surprised people, whether it was a good way or a bad way, you got their attention. You definitely got Gary's attention because we've seen you through this journey and that's all that matters. Yeah. You know, here's the thing I look like a school teacher-ish and a librarian so people don't expect me to. spew a word like that so it has its shock value and I guess it worked it worked we

we know I've heard you're a you're a big football fan do you did you happen to see Stephen A. Smith talking about talking about Sondra did you see that I did see that and course I saw Stephen A. Smith and I saw that now he was all over Natasha and he got my age wrong but at least he got me you know he got your you're in there he i think he said i think he said said i think he said i think he said i didn't see this that's so cool he's a he's a football player yeah yeah he's an analyst what what what is your do you have an NFL team no i have 32 teams oh okay that's all the teams isn't it i have a league i have a league i have a league interesting who's your who's your favorite what who's your favorite player in the league you got a player

watching Mahomes. I watch the, I like watching the connection between him and Kelsey, you know, and in the past there have been a lot of quarterback tied-in relationships that have made me feel good about the sport, you know, that connection they have. How do you feel about Travis Kelsey dating Taylor Swift? I do. That's what's drawn meet up a ball. I think, you know, it's fun. People have fun with it and they are having fun with it, whether they admit it or not. I, you know, America's always looking for love and romance and, and when you've got two heroes like that, one hero and one hero, you know, it makes for good feeling. So, yeah. Were you married to an NFL player at one point in your life?

I was. Yes. Okay. Who? His name was Lindsay, Mason. Okay. A left tackle for the Oakland Raiders. Okay.

Wow. How did you two meet? We actually met at a racquetball court. And he and some of his coworkers were playing slash practicing and I was playing. And somehow we bumped into each other in the corridor and started chatting. And I'll tell you how I got hooked on this game because he invited me to watch him at a game. And I knew a little something about football. know, what you've learned in high school, going to games and cheerleading.

But so he invited me to a game. And then after the game, I said, tell me what you do out there. What is your role? And he started explaining to me. He's a tackle, an offensive tackle. That means that he does pass protection and run blocking. So then I said, okay, explain that. And little by little, I was getting tutorials on Monday nights when he wasn't working.

and back then they only had Sunday and Monday night football so that was my tutorial time and I got all the X's and O's and I was fascinated it grabbed me and there was always something to learn even to this day there is something to learn

about this game that I didn't know the game before and I don't know my mind just sucks it up the last thing I googled here was the NFL rule changes for this season yeah so there's some pretty they're always changing something yeah yeah they have to because they they've got a product to protect and it's the players

that's true that's true yeah I feel like my issue getting into football is that I just don't understand what's happening most of the time so Sandra I need to come watch it with you and you can if you had some instruction you might get engaged you might really understand it's about real estate you know getting down and scoring on someone else's real estate. But Serena, hey, honey, I'll talk to you off camera here and get you started if you like. Okay, let's do it. Well, Sandra, you know what?

In my defense, I have football on Saturday morning at 10 a.m. And it doesn't go off the TV until Sunday night at 10 p.m. And Serena, you know what she does? She goes in the other room. Okay, but I have tried a little bit. You and me, Joe. I know. Because I'm right there with you.

you. Okay. So let's, let's you, you were single for 29 years. Is that correct? Yes. Do you want to talk about that? In terms of, in terms of why, why were you single? Did you, did you, within those 29 years, did you really, did you date it all or were you just kind of over it? Yeah, single meaning I wasn't married. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I dated, of course. Oh, let me tell you guys. Yeah. I dated. I have double dated, I have blind dated, I have speed dated, I have online dated, and now I've TV dated. Wow. What has been your favorite?

What would you suggest? Well, all of them, because I think, you know, they're all valuable in trying to find the right person, you know, and if one doesn't work, keep going. and I would blind date again, I would double date again, I would do all of those, you know, in my pursuit. Now, this is not something that happens every weekend, every week, you know, especially since it's football season. But even otherwise, I don't, you know,

I'm not out there trying to meet Mr. Goodbar, but I know that I want a companion in my life. And my oasis, I want to be his oasis, and it's important. My kids want me to do so. we know it doesn't work out with Gary but we don't know if there is going to be a golden bachelorette if there is is that something that you are intrigued you would you like to be the golden

bachelorette? I would do it tomorrow. Really? Okay. Why? Because they're motivated like I want a I want a Mr. Wright in my life I want I don't want to just date I want a committed, serious let's have fun

in our golden years relationship. It's important, you know. And if you... No, go ahead. I'm still... I think I'm still viable and I have energy and I have desire and I

there's things to do in life and with someone like watch football. But other things as well. other activities. Yeah. I'm motivated, guys. Can you tell?

Yeah, we can tell. You're honestly, you are, you are the definition of 75 years young. And what we saw, like, honestly, we were watching you playing pickleball and just on this show in general. And I, you look like you have changed what I pictured as a 75-year-old person. Like, you honestly, you look great. You move. you. It's just, it's, it's incredible. And you were literally the one person on the football court flying around. Thank you, Joe. You were. We saw you dive into the crowd and

hit the ball. Joe was like, how old is Sandra? I was like, I don't know. You know, we look at all the ages in the first episode, but then we kind of forgot as the season went on. And he was like, oh my gosh, Serena, Sandra is 75. I was like, no way. No, she's not. You like, what is your secret? what do you like for for aging gracefully inside on the outside we want to know all the secrets okay well first of all i i like the game of pickleball i've never played it before but i was intrigued about it so i got some instructions from joey kind of one-on-one how to hold that racket you know what exactly is the endeavor here giving my give me my parameters but um but i i've always been athletic it doesn't mean i've had athleticism but i've always had that desire to to to

to play some kind of sport. And I used to play racquetball. So kind of familiarity with the corridor. With walls, of course. But so I'm competitive sports-wise. And so the pickleball was, yeah, I was probably the only one flying around because I wanted to win that doggone contest.

I really did. What's your nightcare routine? Okay. You know, I just wash up, take the day off, and I have a moisturizer that I use. You know, I think here's, here you guys, let me tell you what I think is the reason that my skin responds so well to Mother Nature and all of us. One, I don't drink alcohol. Now, that's going to turn a lot of people off. It doesn't mean you can't drink alcohol. I think it's a wholesome thing for people to do, but I never acquired the taste. but I think in the long run it has made a difference

I don't know I don't live in the sun I'm one of those ladies that's in the shade if I'm out in the sun and the heat I'll find shade because I know that sun is damaging and I also

am always wearing an SPF 50 or higher just you know I and I love the words I'm fighting Mr. Sun I really am and then other My mom looked young when she was my, well, she didn't live to my age, but when she was an older lady, when she was in her golden years, she looked younger. I thought she did. And so I'm guessing that's it. I get, I do have an aesthetician. She kind of gives me some treatments on my skin. You know, I see her about every three months. But, you know, nothing miraculous, you guys. It's just, it just. Well, you look great. Sandra, I wear I wear sunscreen every day

and I'm brown so obviously don't really burn. It's just to protect my skin. I tell Joe Joe never wear sunscreen. I'm wearing sunscreen right now. I'm in the house. I have sunscreen every single morning. Joe is a white man and he could use the sunscreen

because his cheeks get burnt and he never ever wears it because he likes to get tan and I always tell him he's so big on all of this stuff for anti-aging in terms of, yeah, he knows like He has a good skin care, but he's like into coal plunges and, you know, fasting and sunlight in the mornings and all of this stuff. And I'm like, but what you're missing is the sunscreen. I love to get a little. I love, I love, I love to get a little. He loves being tan. I love to be tan.

Which don't we all? That's fine, Joe, for now, because you're a cutie. But when you two are 75 or whatever age, you know, Serena's going to be hot and you're going to be not hot. So I'm just saying. Tell him, Sandra. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,

so we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential. I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it if it's going to be beneficial to you.

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but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions. Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How about exercise, Sandra? Do you exercise regularly? I do. I have silver sneakers classes twice a week. And then at home here, I have a treadmill.

And so when I'm watching my other love, which is Wheel of Fortune, I'm on the treadmill. You've been on Wheel of Fortune. I've been hooked. I've been hooked for, well, they've been on for 40, 41 seasons just about. I was hooked from day one, just like I was hooked on football, fascinated with it. And so my mother's really, really good. She's like every time Wheel of Fortune is on, she guesses it immediately. Did you, how far did you go?

Did you win? I won a little over $30,000. Oh my gosh. And that was in 1988. That was a lot of money back in. Yeah. So what did you enjoy more, Wheel of Fortune or being on the Golden Bachelor? No, I think what I call the GB.

I think the G.B. Because more, you know, meeting women and the whole living away from home. Yeah. And, you know, just being a longer, more intense process. Right. And the wheel was, well, several years of being focused and being a student, but one day of shoot. So, you know. Right.

A little bit of a shorter adventure. Yeah. I've also, I was also on the newlywagg. game a gazillion years ago. Okay. With Sandra is an experience, reality TV contested. Yes. There's been so many gaps between that.

Who knows, maybe in another 10, 15 years, I'll be on another game show or something. Is there a game show that you would love to do or a reality show that you watch and be like, oh, that would be a lot of fun? Yes, I would love to go on the Wheel of Fortune again. And I would love to go on this, hmm, golden bachelorette show that might have. Yeah, there we go. Well, they're back to back, aren't they? Live.

Like, isn't it, Wheel of Fortune is on? Because I feel like whenever we used to watch the show live, we would catch the end of Will of Fortune. So you can go to Wheel of Fortune, and it can be Sandra's episode. And then the next can be the premiere of Sandra season of the Golden Bachelorette. I feel like that's the dream.

I hope ABC's listening to this. But in my market, there's a half an hour between, and that's fine. Okay. That gives me time to prep. Okay. for watching the G.B. Yes. Refresh your macktail, get a snack, and then settle in.

And you live, you live in Atlanta? I live in one of the close communities in Atlanta. But everybody says that land. Okay. Have you, are you, if you lived in Atlanta your whole life? No, you know, interesting enough. I was born here in Atlanta, but I was raised in San Francisco. Oh, interesting.

I moved back here about 22 years ago. Okay. Yeah. Do you miss San Francisco? No, because I visit. I go back and visit. It's changed dramatically, of course. And, yeah, and my children live in Southern Cal.

But I have friends in the Bay Area. So I have reason to go and visit, obviously, college mates, you know, yeah. My heart is still there. Is that what you're thinking, Jim? Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I left part of it there. Your heart in San Francisco. Okay, so let's go a little bit.

go to the show. Let's bring it to the show. Let's talk a little bit about Gary. So you get out of the limo. You make Gary laugh. You know, it's your first time on The Bachelor at The Bachelor. What are your thoughts on Gary when you first meet him? Well, he looked very much like he did on Good Morning America when they introduced him on July 17th. You see, I remember that. and just in real life. And, of course, my hands were probably shaking. And, but it was, you know, the whole, the whole process was intriguing to me. And, of course, Gary was too.

He was the object there. And he's a good-looking gent. Is he your typical type? Like, do you have a type? Well, in some respects, yeah. I like tall men. like facial hair. I like men who have family or engaged with their families, I should say, an intelligent

men, which he certainly seemed to be. He definitely can't play. He definitely can't play offensive line for the Los Angeles or Las Vegas Raiders. I'll tell you that. That is correct. But, you know, millions of men can't. That is true. Yeah.

that's true um so do you feel um did you have a connection with gary and when did you first feel that oh boy um yes of course there was a connection now i'm not describe it as love of course but our our chats were uh filling fulfilling and you know he was learning about me and i was learning about him of course i don't know if i remember exactly when it clicked. I don't think limo night because there was so much going on with the whole Zin thing

and then the bug. Maybe you remember the bug. I didn't really get a chance to connect with him that evening. So it might have been our next chat together. I think that's probably and looking into those what I call old blue eyes 2.0.

Yeah, a lot of people have said he has really, really blue eyes. We have not had the pleasure of meeting Gary in person yet, but I'm intrigued to see these eyes in person. Well, you know, in my generation, but in my mom's generation, I think, Frank Sinatra was old blue eyes. And so that's why I called Gary Blue Eyes 2.0. Oh, I like that. That's cute. Do you, so we've seen you on a couple group dates. And I feel like the one, like we talked about earlier, that you, like, really shined on was this pickleball group date.

you have a conversation with Gary and you talk about how you're missing your daughter's wedding and he allowed kind of not allowed but gifted you I guess with like a FaceTime with your daughter what did that moment mean to you oh it was mixed nervous um you know he surprised me so it was odd you know what why is this phone here but um so I was nervous I was so grateful. It was so thoughtful, creative. It was, it was perfect. It was the perfect thing to do that day, having felt really good about the pickleball and then getting my one-on-one with Gary and then seeing my daughter and my new son-in-law's face. It was, it was, it was beautiful. It really was.

Was that a tough decision to have to miss your daughter's wedding to go on this show? Yes and no. Okay. You know, my daughter and I talked about this when I was being vetted for this show and keeping our fingers crossed. But at the same time, I knew they were going to try to get married during the summer, hadn't yet picked out a date. But as it turns out, the two collided her date and the airing up the show. And, or I'm sorry, the filming of the show.

And so we had several conversations about it. And the bottom line, my daughter said to me, Mommy, she said, I've got my man. You go get yours. So she gave me her blessings. And, you know, we hugged and boohooed. And I said, baby, you're right. You're right. And so it was tough.

But what she said made sense. You know, this is a once-in-a-once-in-a-one. chance up once in the once in my what am I saying once in a lifetime one once in a lifetime opportunity thank you guys yeah so I'm getting all teary now don't

oh it's okay but anyway we yeah serena and I serena and I had that conversation we were talking about like how how you would feel and and that's kind of how I broke it down is it is you know it is a once in a lifetime opportunity and chance I just feel like it's it's just something

that like you can't pass up and I think that's just wonderful that your daughter pushed you to go do it because that is a selfless act on her part and I think it was I think it was the right decision and I believe you mentioned it wasn't her first marriage correct this is our second marriage both of them each of them have been married once before quite some time before but he's a really good guy I couldn't ask for a better son-in-law I really could. Yeah, it's another blessing in our lives. Well, on that pickleball date, you know, we had that beautiful moment with you and Gary.

And then we also had a little bit of drama with the girls. You know, Kathy and Teresa are not getting along. They've been going at it. They've been going at this whole for a while. They clearly do not see eye to eye on the situation. What was your opinion about the situation going on in the house? well you know I wasn't privy to a lot I knew there was something happening but I didn't know the who said what he said she said she said I guess I didn't know these specifics so but it it hurt me a little because I wanted you know kumaya I wanted everyone to get along I wanted there not to be consternation I want you know I wanted the as golden ladies to to shine such that there would not be any drama to reflect on.

So I saw, I'm sorry. No, it's okay, go ahead. I saw more on television than I did when I was there. Yeah, people forget that. I actually forget that sometimes watching because having been on the show, I remember doing interviews and people being like, what do you think of this and this? And I was like, honestly, I didn't know any of that was going on,

which is kind of a blessing in disguise at the time. time. Who were you close with on the show? Who were like your closest girls that, you know, you still talk to? Oh, with just the girls, because there's some of the crew that I love to death. But my roommate Leslie, she and I became close, especially after we lost Joni. And then after we lost Christina and it was just the two of us in the room, you know, we, we bonded some more. She's a great, she's a great person. And I love her. Let me just. say I love her. And, and then, you know, I enjoyed several of the other ladies.

Doesn't mean I did enjoy the others, but I enjoyed speaking with Edith, beautiful spirit, beautiful woman. And I, let's see, Ellen, who was a hoot. Yeah. I liked me some Ellen. She just, she was a hoot. I liked me some Ellen, okay? And so that's probably the strongest,

that I felt connected to. And then unfortunately, we see you, Ellen, and Susan go home this week. Yeah. Going into that row ceremony, how did you feel were you, were you shocked at all? Did you kind of make peace with it? And were there other women like Leslie where, like her connection with Gary is much stronger than mine at this point? Well, I recognize that my real.

relationship with Gary had not advanced, as it has had with other ladies. I could see that. And, you know, there were three roses, and that means I had less than probably a 50% chance of being selected for hometowns. And I was prepared. You know, I just had to ration out what was happening and who was there. I didn't know specifically the connection with other ladies, but I had a sense of who he was more attracted to, had more affinity for.

So I prepared myself. And I'm a big girl. Yeah. So I'm not saying I was excited about leaving. I was not. But I just had to have Asandra to Sondra talk. and we got along very well in that discussion. That's good.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school? policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get

this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The Psychology of your 20s, remember when you used to have Science Week at school? Well, if you loved that, how would you feel about a full psychology month? This September at the psychology of your 20s, we're breaking down the interesting ways psychology applies to real life, like how our pets actually change our brain chemistry, the psychology of office politics, whether happiness is even a real emotion. And my favorite episode, why do we all secretly crave external?

validation. It's so interesting to me that we are so quick to believe others' judgments of us and not our own. I found a study that said, not being liked actually creates similar levels of pain as physical pain. Like, no wonder we care so much. So the secret is, if you want to be okay with not being liked, you have to know why your brain craves it in the first place. Learn more about the psychology of external validation, everyday life. And of course, your 20s, this September. Listen to the Psychology of Your 20s on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Ben Shapiro all combined. Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Myceles Brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative to that.

On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale, one download at a time. We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans' minds but are filled with conspiracies, and we should fill it with the truth and solutions.

Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Watching you back in the show, I just think you did a wonderful job. I don't think you should have any regrets, but do you have any regrets? No. Yes. Maybe I do have a regret. Maybe I have regret about some of the garments that I brought. I mean, nothing heavy duty regrets. Let me think about it. Or just a second.

You know what? Maybe just a minor regret about the limo, stepping out with the limo. As I see the feedback and as I stated earlier, you know, the younger folks loved it. I thought it was a hoot. Golden folks, not so much. But so, you know, that was a bit of a consternation for me so that's maybe the only regret yeah and watching someone like gary navigate dating 25 whatever was 25 30 women um and think about potentially maybe maybe you do get asked to be the golden bachelorette um what would you take from how he handled it that you would that you would do the same and or do different you know that's all that's i like that question I really like that question.

Yeah, good for you. I think I would try to, yes, I'd watch back all the shows and watch him. But then there's also a culmination. It's a culmination of watching, having been a fan of the Bachelor and Bachelorette franchise. I've seen a lot of the similar situations Gary was in. So I think he was patient. And so I think that being in that role requires a lot of patience. And really, again, a lot of self-talks, a lot of the what-ifs, a lot of self-negotiation and self-compromise and listening to the folks who are there to guide me through the process.

But you know, when it comes to emotions and love, it's easy to speak these words, but who knows when you're in that situation? Very true. I've never had two fellas Vi for my attention at one time that I'm aware of. So, you know, starting with 23, 25 or whatever would be. That's a daunting task to try to feel it all out. I don't know if I don't know if I fully buy that. I feel like there's been times in your life where you had a few guys

gone and after you. I didn't know it. Okay. that's the case. I didn't know it. Okay. But thank you, Joe. That's sweet.

There's a compliment in there. Thank you. Should we play, you want to play a game? I have one more question first. So, Sandra, we have the women to all coming up. What are you excited? You're going to be going to be going to be reunited with some of your other castmates,

some of the other women. What are you most excited for for the tell-all? And what are you most nervous for? well i'm excited to see everyone again i i mean we we all in at some level had a friendship and i'm and and which was quickly eaten away um just because we there were departures but um i want to see everyone again and i just think that's going to feel so good just and catch up and chit chat how's it been for you what's what's life like how's the grandbabies on and on and um now

What I, what I'm fearful of is the bloopers. The bloopers. I have a feeling I'm going to be on a couple of bloopers. I'm sure you will be, Sandra. I know. And I don't know what that frightens the heck out of me. Your bloopers are there to make, are to make people laugh. Oh, I understand.

I just don't want them laughing at me. They'll be laughing with you. With me. Okay. Thanks, Serena. Of course. All right, we're going to play, Sancho. We're going to play a quick game.

Rapid fire question. So first thing that comes to your hat, it doesn't even have to make sense. I'm sorry, what's that last the point? It doesn't even have to make sense. First thing that comes to your head. It's all just easy, fun questions about yourself. Okay, like red flag, gold flag. Yeah.

Yeah, kind of. Okay. What is the first thing you do when you wake up in the morning? Oh, when I wake up, I say a prayer. I thank God for blessing me. with yet another day on this earth. Yeah. I like that.

What is your go-to-roce ceremony cocktail, even though you don't drink? I drink orange juice mixed with cranberry juice. Oh. What was the first concert you ever attended? Geez, guys, I'm not 25. We're going back a few decades. Gee, you know what?

I saw Luther, oh, my Luther. Luther Vandross, huh? Luther Vandros, yes. A million years ago. My guy. Wow. What is your love language? Well, what language?

I don't. Like words of affirmation. What's your favorite way to like receive love? So there's like physical touch. There's words of affirmation, quality time, or acts of service or gifts. Okay. Yes. A gift I love most from a guy is his generosity.

And I don't mean from his wallet. I think I said that before. Not a gift from his wallet, but a gift of his time, of his energy, of his chatting with me, of being just being with me, wanting to be with me. Quality time, of course. Quality time. Quality time. Yeah.

And generous with quality time. But, I mean, we're, you know, the clock is ticking on all of us, right? Yeah. how many hours One word answers I'm sorry Did you want one word That's fine

You're doing great You're doing great There's no right or wrong On this podcast How many hours Of sleep do you get every night Probably six or seven I prefer more

But you know Mother Nature is in charge here So What is your favorite place In the whole world Oh my I I like that question

question because I had no answer. You know, my favorite place is where I live, I guess, my home. Yeah. I'm cocooned here. I love my home. I love my home. So. If you could only watch one movie on repeat for the rest of your life, what movie would that be?

Oh, you guys are going to think this is really strange. No. When I was in college, I fell in love with a movie call, and of the thousand days. Okay. I would remember it. And another one, Soylent. green. And that was the story of Anne Boleyn and Henry the 8th. And just the way it was portrayed and seeing Genevieve Buzold. She was just fabulous actress anyway. That was 100 years

ago, guys. Okay. Okay. What is one word your kids or grandkids would use to describe you? Adorable. No, let me say, let me repeat, maybe go back. My oldest daughter calls me cute. Okay. Tell her, I'm too old to be cute. She says, Mommy, you're cute. My youngest daughter says I'm adorable. Oh.

Well, both endearing terms. Yeah. Yeah. If you were to write an autobiography, what would it be called? Oh. I like that question, Joe. How about? Not that anyone would read it, a book called.

called Sondra with Sondra, but, you know, I have, I, I have developed a lot of self-love and I, um, that just, it keeps me afloat, keeps me happy, keeps me smiling, maybe keeps me cute or adorable, I don't know, but maybe Sondra with Sondra or Sondra on Sondra, something like that. I like it. Excuse me for interrupting you. My, my middle name is Joy. My mom always called me Sondra the Joy.

yeah so that's so nice that's a good middle name okay do you believe in love at first sight i believe it exists i i've never had it except for with someone on a television screen but you know a movie star like a denzel or something you know but it's not happened to me but i i believe it exists i believe that other people have had just that benzel washington he's he's he's a smooth guy, isn't he? And he's taken, yes. I, Pauletta. What is one word to describe this season of the Golden Bachelor? Oh, phenomenal. It was a phenomenal thing to do and to learn from and it, you know, how many, how many human beings get to do this in their lifetime. Yeah. You know, there was quite a few thousand who applied for this.

opportunity and and i received it so it's just phenomenal from the day i got to where we were first situated till the day i got home just phenomenal and why do you think why do you think the viewers are so obsessed with this show and and are just singing its praises well you know we have separate sets of viewers we now have a demographic that there was there before and that's golden folks. So I think we have a new set of viewers who are going to be obsessed with this. If they indeed have a golden bachelorette or yet another golden bachelor. I was all obsessed with the show. I was always obsessed with the show when it first came on. I can't remember. I think Alex was the very first bachelor and then Trista was the first bachelorette. And I was hooked back then.

I, I, I, maybe it's being in love with love. Maybe it's, you know, just seeing how, Seeing one of the possible ways of finding love. You know, that was how many, that was a long time ago when reality TV was just blossoming. And this was one of those where women weren't pulling each other's hair out or cussing at each other or turning over tables or something. But they all had a goal and a valid goal, valuable and valid goal. I like that. Well, Sandra, thank you so much for coming on. Happy hour today.

Yeah, thank you. You guys. And my say, you're just too cute. Too cute. Sandra, you're too cute. I can't hear that enough. So thank you. All right, Joe.

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