Bachelor Happy Hour - Sarafiena’s Sipping Wine and Spilling Tea!

Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Sarafiena from Grant’s season! Between the explosive drama, romantic one-on-ones in Madrid, and keeping it cute for the moms watching, there is lots to dive into and she’s giving us the inside scoop. She offers her perspective on the Zoe and Carolina drama and the dress comment. Was Rose sending herself home a huge shock to the house? We’re finding out! Plus, we get all the romantic details of Sarafiena’s one-on-one and her connection with Grant. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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this week, Sarah Fina. Sarah Fina, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thanks, guys. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. Thanks for coming on. We're excited to have you here. Of course. Of course. Where are you recording from today? I'm in New York City. I feel like you guys are also.

We are. What neighborhood are you in? Gray every day. I know. We're gray and cold. I know. It is so gray and cold today. It's also going to snow tonight, apparently.

Yeah. Oh, my God. It's been so cold. It's been so cold. But honestly, this week has been the warmest of it. I don't know. That's how I feel. We had like two days ago it wasn't bad.

Well, we live off of the West Side Highway. So it's just really windy. Yeah, you get the windy. I live in the East Village, but I work on the west side. So I know what you're saying. What do you do for work? I work in advertising. So it's a little bit of media buying.

Yeah, I've been doing that for almost six years now, which is crazy. Wow. Nice. How did you wind up on The Bachelor? Oh. So I signed up myself. I know, like, and this is no shade to anyone. I know a lot of people are signed up herself.

I said of myself too, okay? So I'm here to break. I feel like girls always come on and they're like ashamed of the fact that they didn't come on, get nominated or like scouted by casting. So you know what? No shame in signing up yourself. Okay. No one was looking for me. No one.

Yeah. Kelsey Anderson signed herself up too. Okay. Look at where she is now. Engaged and love. Snaps for the girls. But no one, I didn't have a friend signed me up. I fully was on the bus, on the way to work.

It was after Joey's finale, and that worked out so great. And I was like, you know what? I'm just going to apply. It's a 15-minute bus ride. It took me that time, and I signed up myself. And I got a call that night. So, yeah. It's so crazy, though, because, like, when you sign up, like, you're like, I'm never going to hear back for these people.

Never hearing. I was like, this is going into the abyss. And I found out that night. And then I had interviews throughout the past couple weeks. And it was crazy. It goes so quickly also. So fast. What was dating life like for you before that?

So I feel like my fallback answer has always been like dating sucks, guys are not the best. And, you know, that can be true. But I feel like in the past couple years, I've taken accountability for myself. And I feel like I was just looking in the wrong places. And I was not finding people who, I found people who I thought was my type. And then I realized that my type wasn't what I needed, if that makes sense. I was always looking for these guys that were like outgoing, life of the party.

And that's not something that I needed in my life. I needed someone that was more caring and nurturing. And I just wasn't finding that. So I took six years off of dating. I haven't dated anyone in six years. And I did a lot of therapy, lots of therapy bills. and I don't know I just really worked on myself

it took a lot of self growth I think for myself I think that's great I feel like so many people say New York is such a hard city to date in and I do think going into dating with this mentality of like everyone sucks

does make it hard but I also feel like to your credit like when you're young and you're dating in the city you are meeting these guys probably like out at bars and in these settings where you might not be finding you might be finding someone great but not someone great for you and what you're looking for. Yeah, exactly.

And it's like my therapist always told me this is the thing called fortune telling. And when you say dating sucks and everyone sucks, like that is the energy that you're going to bring to yourself and that's the energy that you're going to attract. So I really had to genuinely work on shifting my mindset and not saying that. And I know that sounds so cliche. I hate saying that. But I did. I just, I really had to work on myself and the energy that I put out.

I agree with that. I have a bad habit of being like, this sucks. Everything sucks. You can't do that. Then everything will suck. Yeah, it's true. That is so true. What was the mindset then that you went into grant season with? The mindset that I went in with was just be myself and have fun with it. Don't take it as seriously. I know, obviously, I was taking it seriously in terms of like I did want to find someone. I did want to get married but I wanted to be my most authentic self and stay true to who I was and like I wanted to continue that growth that I had worked on for so long so it was you know I know a lot of people

share so much about themselves like the first night or the first week but I really had to stay authentic to my dating and how I date in the real world and really build up that relationship because it is a fast process but I didn't want to rush things if that makes sense I really wanted to stay authentic to who I would be. think that's great because I think it's so easy to come on the show and be like, oh my gosh, I have no time and maybe fall into the trap of like sharing something before you're actually ready to share it because you're panicked about not getting the chance to. Yeah, I know. And I think a lot of us felt that way just because I feel like our season was slightly shorter as well in terms of

time. But I just, I couldn't right away because that's just like not who I am as a person. and I really want to just stay true to who I was. But I do feel like there were nuggets that I did open up. And I feel good about every time I did. For night one, what are you seeing Grant for the first time? What is your first impression of him? And is he your type? Is he your type?

Yeah, obviously so attractive. When I first found out, I was so excited. I had texts from my friends of like the first night of Jen season. When all the guys were out of limo, I was like, if I go on the show, this is the guy that I want to be with. I promise you, I will show text proof. You should, you should post that. I feel like people would love that.

I love that. I think that's like so like you like manifested him to be your bachelor and to get on the show. Yeah, I told you. Manifesting really does work and I've been trying to do it a lot more lately. But yeah, obviously physically attractive, my type and then just so much energy. But you could also tell that he was so nervous. and I think that's really admirable because you can go into this and be so confident, but you could just tell that he was genuinely, one, looking for someone, and two, he was just

excited, but also had nerves meeting everyone. And I just, I love that. What were the vibes like the first night? Who did you kind of gravitate towards to? Yeah, vibes were really high the first day. I feel like there were a lot, there was a lot going on. there were animals there were like there was a vagus sign it was a lot it was very chaotic what was the animal a llama the llama yeah no drama llama linda the llama was there it was intense and I think just like going into that and like this is my first time on camera as well and just like there's a llama right next to me and I'm not I don't know how I feel but it was intense but I do feel like the girls which is so nice and welcoming and again I hate saying that but it's true

Like, I think we all were in this experience and we're all just getting to know each other. So I think everyone just tried to put their best foot forward that night. And I think I've bonded with so many girls that night also. How did you come up with the big head entrance? That was a good one. How heavy was that? It was so heavy, but it has handles in the back. So it was like, yeah, so it was fine.

So I have very dry, sarcastic humor that I feel like sometimes doesn't land and gets me in trouble. but I wanted something that showed my personality and I liked to be witty, I like banter and for me it's like if you make fun of me and I can make fun of you, like that is an instant match for me and I feel like he really was receptive to it and took it well so I felt like it went over really well. Yeah, no, it was a really good one.

What women, which women did you connect with right away? Or like whatever, a couple days. if you go off of like night one so many people are going to be mad at me but i i love all the girls um i would say alicia vicky bailey um and i would see beverly night one and then as i as the time progressed obviously like i grew closer to a lot more girl yeah i was gonna say damn your girls are gone yeah dude you're flying solo in the mansion this week week two i was like i think after week three and i woke up i was spiraling i was like where are my friends. That's hard. That's hard. I was so mad at Grant. And I feel like you guys know what I'm

talking about. It's like obviously you're there for them. But these are your support system in that house because you're cut off from your friends and your family. And these are the girls that as weird as it is, like you're dating the same guy, they're the only people who can relate to what you're going through at that moment. So losing your friends is like, what the hell am I going to do today? Like, who am I going to talk to? Who am I going to have breakfast with? So yeah. you know more than I do but Joe went home night one so he doesn't know

but you can imagine you get at the lake with paradise like you had breakfast and every morning imagine they went home you'd be having breakfast alone it makes sense yeah yeah okay so

so we so I would say the first couple episodes the drama kind of surrounded Zoe which that's that's now much tamer I want your opinion on that as well.

We do see you make a comment about Zoe having a short dress or whatever. Yeah. Which really isn't the worst thing anyone's ever said to somebody on this show. Yeah. Yeah, kind of just walk us through that and how that went down. Yeah. So in terms of start with like the Zoe stuff, like the beginning. Yeah, because you were on, you were on that first group date where she pulled him on the basketball day, right?

And that kind of feels like where everything. started and it just snowballed from there. Yeah. So for context, that first group date was the night after the rose ceremony. So again, we don't know each other very well. And I think a lot of us were very timid going into it. It's like we've known Grant for a day now. So we really didn't know how to fully approach the situation. And Zoe is definitely more of a goal for what she wants kind of girl, which like you have to respect to a point. But also it can step up. other people's toes because, again, we're just all getting to know each other. So I think, again, it just ruffled some feathers. But you can see both sides to it in terms of like, you know what,

she wants to utilize her time in the best way that she feels fit. And that is what she wanted. That's what she came here for. So I think that kind of snowballed into the cocktail party that night and then into the group date the next week, the cocktail party the next week. And I think at this point, you know she is definitely getting a little bit emotional because she definitely feels isolated and I could see how she could also feel that way but then there's also like well you know we all had a great day and you didn't what we felt put all of your effort into it and then she gets emotional and I definitely made a comment and I hated that wasn't my best moment. I was definitely hard myself. Yeah, I was hard on myself for so long about it. But I'm also giving myself some grace with it because I'm human and, you know, we all say things that we don't mean or, you know, that were like, that was shitty in the moment. But also, we talked and in a weird way, it actually got Zoe and I to bond because we realized that we were feeling the same things, but we were just articulating it in different ways. And I was going through things at that time because it is such an emotional, rocky journey. And,

we sometimes like as people don't know how to communicate well and I really do think in a weird way it just it got us to really see each other in a different light oh that's good yeah I was going to ask you I feel like this kind of ties into um this part of the story we see Alex cuddling her llama crying her eyes out about you know Zoe and how the girls have kind of tried to connect with her and there was this struggle there do you feel like there was this kind of maybe tension or like inability to connect with Zoe maybe those first few weeks that once you were able to have that breakthrough moment helped the drama with Zoe moving forward. Definitely. I think again, just coming off of that first day and it being so intense

and we're not really seeing Zoe's true side, it definitely put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth and I think it was really hard for her to recover from that. It's like when everyone's mad at you to an extent and then you try to like crawl out of the grave, it's very hard. So I think both of us being at a vulnerable level at that point, we were finally able to just like say like, okay, what are you going through? What am I going through? Like it seems like we're going through the same thing, but we're just not saying it in the same way. Right. And you're responding to it like with your actions differently as well, right? Because we do see her steal. Exactly. from Ali Joe twice, which, you know, that was her approach, not your approach. And there's

kind of that like, you know, I don't know why you're doing that. But, you know, you're all just trying to get the same end goal as much. But it also probably makes it hard in the beginning because it seems like you're close with, you were close with Ali Joe to maybe want to trust Zoe in the beginning as well. Yeah. I think at that time, it's like being on that date, we all kind of bonded in that sense. So it's like, yeah, I was definitely felt slighted because she did steal him during the time on the basketball date.

So that sucks. And again, it is such limited time. I don't think people realize that. So in that moment, I definitely, I could see where Allie Joe was upset. But then it's just a really difficult situation. It's, you know, you could see both sides of it. Okay.

So now let's jump to the Carolina of it all. So at this point in the show, which we're on episode four what is your take on Carolina because what we figured out what we believe is the issue is Carolina got one on one time a lot of the other women in the house

didn't get that one on one time Carolina is talking is very negative about the whole situation and that she just still doesn't really know Grant and all the other women are like well we need to get that time that you got so fuck you yeah essentially

so what is your what is your take on at all listen i don't know the full story at that point of what's going on and i will just sum it up in terms of like it is a huge game of telephone it's like we don't know exactly what was said and i think she felt a certain way after her date but i do feel like she should have kept that to herself because when you feel a certain way and you communicate it to other girls who haven't had time with it, you're in a sense poisoning the well because we have not had time with him and we have not gotten to know him. So you having a negative perception is going to make our heads all think, okay, well, is this going on? Is he like not? And I just like didn't think that was fair in that moment to do. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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Yeah. The Vanderpumped dog's group date. Yeah, I think that's the first time they ever did a group date this early on where there's only three people on it. Yeah, 100%. And it was your second group date of the week for all three of you because sadly we saw Beverly went home and that spot opened up. I know.

Sadly, Beverly did go home like so much love for her. Honestly, truly. She's so amazing. But yes, a spot did open up and that is my dream date. I love dogs, one. And then two, meeting Lisa Vanderpump was a dream. I'm a huge Vanderpump for a fan. So seeing her was so exciting.

But yeah, it's just like really special. Again, we had such limited time. So also having that little extra time this week, that week was just really beneficial. And I really feel like Grant and I had a great conversation in terms of like me not feeling like I'm opening up fully. Like I said, it's really hard for me from the beginning. and we do talk about my ability to open up and how I am slightly and little by little

throughout the time there. Got it, nice. Okay, so you guys go to Madrid. Is it your first time in Madrid? No, it's my second time. Yeah. Great city. So really exciting.

Yeah. So amazing. You get a one-on-one date, which just looks awful. Like, you're in the rain. Were you surprised when you got the 101? You're in the rain and you got a bunch of each other. it. Guys, no, best date of my life. No, Serapina. I know that sounds psychotic. I know that sounds psychotic and there's probably something wrong with me. But are you an adrenaline junkie? Like, are you

someone that would want to bungee jump somewhere? No, but I was like, you know what? If I get a one on one date, like I love clothes. Don't get me wrong. But I didn't want a shopping date. Like, I feel like that's just so, I didn't want that. I wanted something that was exciting and something that was fun. And when I found out I was doing that, I could not have been happy. year because I again, I've been to Madrid and I know Grant went to Madrid, but we've both never been to Madrid and bungee jump. So I think it's just like, it's something that was so cool to do with someone. And I loved it. I, and the rain added an extra element of excitement. I, my hair looked terrible, but it's fine. Were you worried about like you guys were being,

you know, tied up? Were you worried like your head was going to hit his head or anything like that? No, but I did ask her if it was, if anyone has ever done this in the rain and she said she didn't think so. So I was like, um, I, I wasn't sure about that, but you know what we just went for. And the papers you did sign was, was that like a, you know, like you may die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you die, you can't do it. Yeah. You can't do essentially. And she was like, yeah, you'll be fine. I think. Oh my gosh. Grant was freaking out though, wasn't he? He was freaking out. But I was just like, I need a hair tie and I'm ready to go. Like, I was so excited to do it.

I feel like that's a good thing. You need it to balance out on dates like that. You can't both be totally freaking out. I mean, you can, but it's a lot harder. Yeah. And honestly, like throughout all of this, he's made me feel so comfortable and so confident and so safe that it was really nice to kind of reciprocate that in that time

because I genuinely, I mean, I was afraid, but I didn't out really show it because I think if both of us freak out, it's just a mess. So I'm really happy it was, able to internalize that a bit. What were your goals or intentions going into your one-on-one date? What were you hoping for? To fully open up, I think that, you know, we had small

nuggets of, you know, opening up and little things that we spoke about, but I really feel like I wanted to scratch more of the surface during this time. Because, again, it's really hard when, you know, it's shuffling girls and you only get like a few minutes. And this was genuinely time where I could sit down and actually have a conversation with him and just feel comfortable and not like a girl's coming around the corner in two minutes. So I feel like we really needed this time, especially like hometowns being in two weeks. Not, oh wow, they're in two weeks. Not to get off of this topic, but jumping back or just going back to your, the group date, were you at all worried that since you were on a smaller group date, that may take you out of the running for a one-on-one

date? Definitely. Because at that point, it's, it was 14 girls and then it goes down to 10. And it's so crazy to even say this, but at 10, only three girls have had a one-on-one day. So that's, that's insane. And then again, hometown's being in two weeks, it's like the chances of you getting a one-on-one are very slim. So when you do get it, you're so lucky for that time and so fortunate for that time. So then I think that goes back to the Carolina. this stuff where it's like, you know, when you do have that moment, appreciate it. If that makes sense. And yeah.

Were you surprised that you got the one-on-one date this week? Because I was saying, you know, we saw you, Latia and Dina were on that small group date. And then Litea got that night portion. And then we saw you and Dina got that one-on-one date. So if I'm in your shoes, when Dina gets that first one-on-one, I'm probably thinking, like, it's not going to be me. Like, I'm not also, yeah.

And if it's not. And if it's not you, it's almost like you're going home because he chose two women from the group day and then not you. Yeah, yeah, I'd be freaking out. No, I was tweaking. I was like, I came all the way to Spain. Like, I think I had four sangriaes that lunch. You're like, it's over for me. I was like, you know what?

I'm in Spain. I'm just going to drink as many sangri as possible. And like I was tweaking. I was, but no, I mean, it really does take patience at that point. and everyone's probably like, why is this girl freaking out? But yeah, to your point, it's like, you know, that we had the group date, Latia gets one, and then Dana gets one, and then you're like, okay, well, what about me and nonsense? But no, I mean, I just had to wait that night, and that just shows how much I am as a person, too.

I never realized. So then we jump to the night portion of the date, and it's going, I mean, my point of view, it's going really well. Yeah, it seemed to be going great. It seems like you guys were both really able to connect. on your relationships with your mom. We loved the moment that we saw between the two of you. You know,

obviously you got really deep, but this was a little bit more of like a lighthearted. Well, he's like, when I go to make out with you, you're not really like into it. So like what the fuck? And he's like trying to like unpack

like what that means about you as a person. And you're like, I just don't want my mom to see me kissing you. It's not that deep. Stop. I mean, so I didn't feel that way in the moment. But like, okay, for contact.

When you are kissing on camera, it's a camera crew, all of America, your producer who you've become close with. It's awkward. It's awkward. It's awkward. I used to sometimes be like, could you guys back up? Like, I'm trying to pretend you're not here. And I'm, I can't.

Like, you have, like, can you back up? It's hard. It's uncomfortable. It is, it is so hard. And it's like nothing against. And I also am really weird about PDA as well. So this is PDA to the. 11th degree and I felt so bad in that moment because I'm like I promise you it is not you

it is just my mom is watching right now and like yeah you have that in the back of your head yeah I just like why am I thinking about my mom but I get it I get it that was so funny did that land with him though do you think he was like okay that makes sense no I think it totally made sense especially because I've talked so much about my mom and like for context as well My family did not want me to do the show. They were very against it. I don't think reality TV was in their cards for me. But I think eventually they were like, you know what, if this is what you want to do,

as long as you show yourself in a way that you're proud of at the end of the day, go for it. So I think he understood that, like my hesitation at times. But no, it's not that I don't like making out with him. It's just that I am afraid of it's not going to come home. It's understandable. Out of all the conversations you guys had on your one-on-one, was there one that stood out as being the most impactful or the most meaningful? Yeah, I think I don't know what's shown, but I did talk about my dating life and just I had a very hard time dating a couple years ago because I feel like I was never really chosen, if that makes sense. I feel like no one really, and again, it could have been because I also wasn't fully giving

myself, but I just feel like, you know, I heard so many times, like, you're so great on paper and you're so kind and you're so nice and you're so beautiful, but you're just not for me. And that, after a while, cuts so deep and it's very hard to hear. And throughout my entire time with Grant, I really do feel like he wanted to hear what I had to say. And he listened and he let me have that space to open up. That's great. That's amazing. It's got to be hard to be in an environment where he's dating a bunch of other girls if that is something that you've experienced in your past.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, you've experienced this, but you go on a show where a guy's dating 25 girls, like, make it make sense. But you're like, you chose me and everyone else tonight. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Would you say after this date, would you, would you say like this process?

Was the process working for you? Were you like, okay, I get how. I get this. Yeah, it was definitely working. And before this, I thought I was like just fully whole. I had everything together and I felt like I was, you know, I fully worked on myself. But throughout this, you learn so much more about yourself and you work on yourself even more. And I didn't think I was going to be able to dig as deep as I feel like I could have and opened up as much.

So not only do I feel like it was working in terms of like I was growing a connection, but I was also just like growing myself a lot more as well. Jumping to the cocktail party, we see a lot go down, a lot with Carolina and Juliana. And then we also see Carolina and Rose, not really get into it, but kind of just, you know, circle back to what has been going on between them with the conversation. and the drama with Grant. You have a rose at this point, right? Yeah.

So you have a kind of God. That's a great feeling because I can just sit and watch this. Yeah, I'm like three wines. Yeah, that's great. But we see Rose send herself home. Was that a surprise to you? What was the reaction in the house? Yeah.

So the Rose situation, well, I'll say, is I think going back to week three in L.A., that cocktail party or that Rose ceremony night, you really don't see Rose speak much and I think it's because she was one so caught off guard and I think similar to myself I think she she thinks about things before she actually speaks

so I think she was like really trying to understand what one he was saying what he might have said in the past and what Carolina might have said about her and I think from then she kind of retreated back into herself and took that also into Spain and I think going back

going to the row ceremony in Madrid, I think all of that bubbled up because she, again, it is this giant phone of telephone at this point. And all of that bubbling up, I think it unfortunately like bursted on her. And I think it was just, I think she reached her limit at that point. So I just, I feel so bad about that. That's how it felt. It felt like as much as we were sad to see her go, it felt like it was the best decision for her based on how everything had played out. Okay, okay, hypothetical here, right? And I don't know, I don't know, we don't really know what went down. But if you were on stage dancing with Grant and then you come back to the mansion and you are chatting with

Juliana. Juliana. Bailey, anyway. And Julianna's like, well, just so you know, when he was dancing with you, he told me he was thinking of me. how would you handle that like I would for me I think it's hard to keep that in like how do you not call the guy out

because you're like well what the fuck yes I think it goes back to it's not what's said but it's how you say it and I think I would have phrased the conversation way differently but it is also very hard to hear but then you also have to remember it is so early on

so that's another thing also one thing that I did in the house is I never listened to what other people's conversations were. I didn't want to hear because I'm not I'm not great with like hearing what other people have to say or what their connection is. Like that would cause me to spiral. Yeah. So ignorance is bliss in the situation. And if you can avoid hearing or talking about it. And sometimes you can. But if you can, it's the best option. Because you're 100% going to hear him say something to someone that's going to hurt your feelings. Even if it's a respectful, just a thousand even if he's just complimenting someone in a nice way like it's still very emotionally confusing

to hear someone you like say sweet things to your friend yeah no I remember at some point we were just like I love you I'm so glad you had so much fun but I don't want to hear it like it's just it's setting a boundary for yourself for you to succeed yes which is I agree the right decision but also sometimes easier said than done as we've seen yeah it's sometimes it is also yeah I feel bad for Rose too because I feel like she got caught up in a situation really early on that just took her out like it was like after that it was basically we yeah and it's also so hard to like come back from that because then it's like again it is so little time and it goes so quickly that like that little hiccup can defer you so much more 100% any any setback on this show is

very very hard to come back from because you are working with so limited time you almost need to always be moving your relationship forward or you're going to get left behind. And sometimes I'm not seeing that, you know, that's not, wasn't Rosa's hopes and dreams was to, you know, but anyone's really, but sometimes it unfortunately is just the situation and it happens and there's nothing that can be done about it. We also saw Natalie and Paris to go home. Any surprises there was were they, did they feel like it was kind of their time? I mean, I again, I never really talked about other people's connection, I know Natalie and Prisa are the sweetest girls. So yeah, it is definitely surprising. And I think just with a lot of the drama, it was surprising in terms

of like who stayed and who go. But again, you don't know other people's connection and how far long he is with other people. But they're so sweet and amazing. They'll be fine. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming.

Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes,

We're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.

My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer

walks into a comedy club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015,

a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get? get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club. A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Super Secret Festi Club podcast season four is here.

And we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, we're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie,

and you're not going to want to miss it. Get in here! Today, we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like, text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it.

Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. We're in the head. That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and, of course,

our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Mycultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hola, it's Honey German, and my podcast, Grasasas Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment. With raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin, artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition?

No, I didn't audition. I haven't audition in like over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters sharing their real stories of failure and success.

You were destined to be a start. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing vibras you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching? I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me.

But the whole pretending and cold, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasas Has Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. We're going to play a little game. Before we do, can you tease next week? A little bit jaw dropping. A little bit jaw dropping. Okay.

Jaw dropping. Yeah. I like that. Okay, we're going to play a quick game, rapid fire. Get to know Sarah Fina. You ready? Yeah. What's your love language?

Quality time. What is your go-to drink at a bar? White wine, preferably sincere. Who is someone that inspires you? My sister. What music artist would you love to? to see perform live. I've seen him like five times, but Drake.

If you were stranded on a deserted island and could only bring two girls from your season, who would you bring? Two girls. That's all you get. Okay. Dina, because she would get me out of any situation, truly. She's so smart. And then, Latia, because she makes me laugh so much.

What is your dream? vacation destination i really want to go to africa favorite comfort movie or tv show i love rom-coms um how to lose a guy in 10 days my favorite how do you how do you unwind after a long day um i light a candle um i take a shower and i watch a show what are your three what show are you watching right now So I love to rewatch Controversial. I apparently said I watched Grazenano three times, which I actually have. But I have it on just like, I have it in the background. I don't actually just like stick there.

Okay, yeah. I was like, how are you doing this? Are you, you must have been only watching Grey's Anatomy for the last like 20 years of your life. No, I just have it on in the background. Like if I'm working, it's on. But like, yes, I do watch it quite a bit. I've never seen one episode of Grey's Anatomy. I think we should watch it.

It's so good, but you are like a bit of a hypochondriac, so you'd have to get past that. Well, yeah. We're going to like the ER every single night. Joe's like, I have that. What are, yeah, that will happen. What are three essentials you always have in your purse? Oh, lip gloss, hand lotion, and I'm trying to think what else. Um, oh, also floss, because I go out for dinner a lot.

And I hate when there's like stuff stuck in my teeth and I go out for the night. Joe is a huge. There's floss. Not the strands, but like the little packets of floss are everywhere in our apartment. I find them everywhere. Yes, you have to get the picks. Those really, you can get into it. If you're, if you're a grown up and you don't floss, I have a big, I have a problem with that.

No, it's, yeah, it's disturbing. And if you could describe grant season in one word, what would it be? I know this I'm going to say it again jaw dropping jaw dropping okay well yeah I'm excited

we're about halfway so lots more to come yeah all right Sarah Fiona thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy day coming on the podcast

thank you guys so much for having me I had so much fun of course and to our listeners make sure you stay tuned to bachelor happy hour we have recaps and new interviews

for you every week yeah be sure to So stay tuned into Grant season of The Bachelor, and then come join us on Bachelor Happy Hour every single week. Thanks for listening. Bye. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics podcast, Spolitics. And on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly?

Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. And there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

But if you have unmedicated ADHD, ADHD, Oh, my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hi, I'm Jenna Colopez and in the new season of the Overcomfit Podcast,

I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do we really need another podcast with a condescending finance brof trying to tell us how to spend our own money? No thank you.

Instead, check out Brown Ambition. Each week, I, your host, Mandy Money, gives you real talk, real advice with a heavy dose of I, feel uses, like on Fridays when I take your questions for the BAQA. Whether you're trying to invest for your future, navigate a toxic workplace, I got you. Listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story.

anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.