Bachelor Happy Hour - Sean McLaughlin: ‘Vanderpump Villa,’ ‘Paradise’ Fallout, and More

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re here with Sean McLaughlin from “Bachelor in Paradise” and “Vanderpump Villa.” We kick things off by getting into all the tea that went on behind the scenes of “Vanderpump Villa.” What was it like being there during all the of the Hannah and Marciano drama? We’re finding out. Then, we hear where Sean stands with both Allyshia and Kat, including getting into his split with Allyshia; how did that happen? We also show Sean his never-before-seen photos from his time with Bachelor Nation and get the inside scoop on every moment. What happened before the infamous April kiss? Tune in now to find out and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And today we have Bachelorette, Paradise, and Vanderpump Villa alum, Sean. What's up, guys? How are we doing? We're doing good. We're happy to have you. It's been a minute since I feel like you've been on a podcast, but since honestly I've seen you last, like there's lots to discuss, lots to get into. Thank you guys for having me. I'm excited to get into it.

I, for one, am so excited to get into it. We saw both of you on Vanderpump Villa last season. Sean, what was it like being in the villa compared to the Paradise Villa? your time on Paradise? It was kind of heaven, honestly. Van Pillar and Villa compared to, especially like OG Bachelor in Paradise, like we're talking Mexico Bachelor in Paradise,

Van Pond Villa I literally felt like I was royalty. I felt like I was, you know, the King of England there. Everything was taking care of the estate was incredible. The food, the company, like it really was so much fun. Like that was probably from all the stuff I'd done, the most fun I've had filming, anything, really. Yeah. No. And to go off of that, obviously, like, I did it with Sean. How would you describe the filming style or like just how they produced? Because I think that's what for me felt like, oh, this is like freedom. Like I can, I'm free to do whatever. So I wonder if it felt the same for you. Definitely felt very much like it didn't even feel it produced. I felt like very natural in terms of what was going on. I mean, obviously we had structure from our day to day in terms of like we're going from this event to this like tea party, whatever we're doing.

But like in terms of them looking for things for television, they kind of trusted us to have fun and be ourselves. And they felt like they could make a show out of us being ourselves instead of trying to grab stuff and like start up drama that isn't necessary. So it was a very relaxing filming style. I loved it. Yeah. I'm curious because I wasn't there. What is something or what happened behind the scenes? Because we filmed for so long and only 10% get shown.

Can you share anything that maybe the audience didn't see? Oh, man. I feel like... A lot. Yeah, I don't even know where to begin. There was so much of like... The drama, obviously. That's what I want to know.

Well, what's funny is, like, I thought when we were filming and the cast of Van Pondel did a really good job of not letting us into their own drama. So when we watched it back, I don't know, Charity, if you felt the same thing. It was like a different show. I was like, when did this happen? They were screaming. And we were in the room next door. Like, the Hanover was.

Marciano stuff, we had no idea. Like, I truly had no idea. So much so, I was like trying to get Marciano to like hook me up with Hanam. Like, yo, grab Hanam back. I didn't realize that this was going on at the same time. So that was a little jarring. I was like, you should have told me, man. I felt like an idiot watching him back. Yeah. No, I watched it on FaceTime with like Jess and Mercedes. And like, I think the whole time, like, our draws were on the floor because we were like, She didn't know half the stuff that obviously was going on with her little situation, with Nick, and then me and Mercedes were just like, when did this happen? We were kind of like in la la land. I mean, I was enjoying myself regardless because I wasn't like the single people there, like, you know, flirting and doing whatever.

But it definitely was like so insane to watch that because it did feel like a different show for a second. But speaking of Hannah and Marciano, we did see a little bit. Like, you know, you had a couple little sessions with Hannah, a little makeout sessions. How was that? Like, how did that come to be? Did you, obviously, I mean, I know now, like, you guys are not together anything, but explain or walk us through, like, kind of that experience. Yeah, well, I feel like I, I don't know, when we were going, we were taking the flight out there.

We, like, land in England, land in London. I'm like, all, like, you kind of figure out what's your. role to play in all this, right? Like, what is your role to go out and, and have fun? And, like, I basically got pitched, Vanderbilt Bill got pitched me as like, we're going to go and lately have a vacation, have fun and, like, whatever happens happens. But, like, we're here to make a television show. So make sure, you know, we're bachelor people. We have to have a little bit of romance. You can't just not out of it there, you know? So I don't know if it got clipped or not, but I was like, if there was rehab for guys addicted to hot blondes, I'd probably be in it.

So, like, you know, Hannah immediately and Rachel, obviously back in the day in Paradise, you kind of You know, that's, that happened. So, yeah, she got to come out immediately. You, yeah. You, come on. You and Jess. You and Jess. Oh, my gosh.

Wait, keep going, because I want to know all the backstory with Hannah. Yeah, it really was like you, they, it was so funny. So when we pull up to the estate, they're just sitting like on the steps waiting for us for our arrival. So like we're getting paraded through the entire cast and like the single people on the show. you know, John B, myself, who we thought, Xavier who we thought, but it wasn't single when we're going through it. But we're like, it's like, you know, pick your, like, take a pick. Like, who do you like? Do they say that? Do they say pick your person? No, but it was like, yeah. In other words, do they say that? Yeah. Kind of. It wasn't, it wasn't like forced upon you. They were very much like,

hey, if you're interested in someone, like let us know, like we'll try to get you guys away from each other, which is great, but it wasn't like, you have to go and make out with this girl. You have to go do this. It was very much, if you're interested, let us know we can kind of help you coordinate the situation. And I don't know, like Van der Puyla, they, it was much more of, they knew they were on television where I feel like sometimes in the bachelor world, like you kind of get in a weird sense where you don't feel like you're on television.

Like they were there to like play up the reactions. They know they had a job to do as well. So it was, it made for a really fun, you know, a couple days and, in, and, you know, London. I'm curious. Wait, with that question, would you say that the Vannertpump Villa cast is more fake or like acting a little bit more than let's say the bachelor cast? I wouldn't say fake. I don't know, I wouldn't say fake. Fake's not the right word. I would say like the reactions slash like things or maybe it's had embellished to a degree. Yeah. I would also say they were very much more in the camp if they did not care how they came across on television, which,

I feel like it's way different than the Bachelor universe where I feel like people care too much. So there should be like a healthy medium of like having fun, like not really caring what people are going to think and being your authentic self, but also not overplaying the drama or like looking for it in a sense. I thought it was a healthy medium from from the band of pump crew, but they definitely knew that, hey, you know, like I'm not here because I'm a great housekeeper, you know? Like that's not why I'm on the show because I can make a great bed. So no, I feel like that's exactly what it is and also who they cast their personality types. Like would they like, like, would someone like Marciano do really good on Paradise? Absolutely. But also it's like he is like indeed the type that does not care how he comes across clearly.

So I'm like that man's here to do whatever. Have fun. Like ruffle feathers. And I think obviously it makes him very dynamic and polarizing, which like we can sense as people who are like guests of the villa, but also like the audience members can see that, or audience can see that watching it back. So I do think it's also like a combination of who they cast. And obviously someone like Hagan too, like insane personality. Like he is so funny, so funny, had the best time with him. So yeah, I do think it's like it's a combination of it all. But it's very interesting

because they seem to get along but not get along at the same time. It's very interesting. They're like all best friends, but hate each other. Yeah. Yeah. That was. So interesting. Yeah, Hagan was like probably one of the funniest people that like I've got a chance to do anything with really. Yeah. But what's funny and I think what makes Vanderpumpville unique and similar to like The Bachelor in Paradise style of interviews, right? Like you get so much information from the confessionals and the ITMs where like you see Marciano and Hagan's ITMs, they're very much giving them that personality type. We're like in person when we're hanging out with them, I didn't feel like it was that, you know, crazy.

But in the moment you watch the show and like, you know, Marciano was going crazy in ITM, Hagan's had these funny-ass one-liners. Like that really adds to their personality. But yeah. Yeah. I am curious too. As a viewer, I watched all of Vanderpump Villa. And the way Bachelor Nation acts compared to the rest of the shows, why do you think that

we go in there and act like that? Everyone was having a romantic moment. It was like the magical music was playing. What is it about us that makes us do that? You know, I didn't know you were going down the romantic route. I always thought you were going down the way more like completely normal and had like a good time and respectful route. Jess ran out of a car into a man's arms and John Bies was like having a garden moment,

like hand behind the head. All right. John Bies is part of moment. I wouldn't give that like the idea of romance. I'm like let's get into it. Compared to the other the other show's Bachelor was. putting it on so thick. Well, we also weren't ruining the mansion. Like the group before us like literally flooded it. Like we're acting like complete like animals in a sense. We were like very much

normal and respectful and like very courteous to the staff. And I think we didn't take advantage of like even though we could get whatever we wanted any time. We were very respectful that, you know, please and thank you. Don't take it for granted and be nice to the staff. So that was where I kind of went with it. And to go off of that, I feel like. like John Vee and Jess are both like, you know, they like to lean into that lover like role a little bit, not too much, but like that's just them. At least Jess, like Jess is a lover girl and hopeless romantic. So I'm like, we, I think we all eventually saw the writing on the wall with Nick, but like the

ending scene, I was in the other car, so I didn't even realize that happened until after. I was like, wait a minute. I screamed. I'm like, this is so, bachelor. I can't even get over the moment. It should have been a hoogoo, but we missed, missed opportunity. A missed opportunity. But no, I think they knew who to kind of like let lean into that role.

And that's why the producing aspect of it all too is like they kind of just let those, I don't want to say organic moments, but those moments flourish on our own versus like, oh, you know, like we're going to set this up. So I don't know. Very interesting. They knew like Nick was perfect. Like Nick like that can lay it on and can flirt with anybody like Jesse eat that up. It was like a match made in heaven, especially with like the Scottish accent.

So they kind of knew what they were doing. They're good at their jobs. Right. Sean, did you have a chance to talk to Lisa a lot or not really? Yes and no. I feel like anytime she was around, I just wanted to be around her because she's the person that I get asked the most questions about. Like how was Lisa when you went to the villa? And I thought she was so lovely.

Like carry yourself like loyalty. She was so sweet to us. I wish I got more time with her, but not to the level of you did, like, where you got like certain chats alone, but she was amazing. Yeah. No, I'm obsessed with that woman. I just need to know. I'm like, did anyone else get a taste?

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We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman? But actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect.

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Or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B.

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So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But I want to ask you, Sean, about your experience on Bachelor in Paradise because you got to experience both the old paradise and the new paradise. What did you like about the new style? What didn't you like?

Yeah, I think the accommodations, of the New Paradise were great and made it a lot more relaxing and actually felt like a vacation. Like what we did in Mexico felt much more like survivor at times. And even Charity, you came down that season. So like it wasn't, you know, luxury. It was pretty much. I mean, I still, people don't realize that we were sleeping in bunk beds that were covered in sand. It was open air in the middle of June in Mexico. It was not ideal living situation. And also not the most romantic environment when everyone's like sweating and just like really can't even get comfortable. So I really enjoyed the Costa Rica accommodations.

I thought the concept of the show, like the competition, I thought that was a good idea. I feel like it was poorly executed from like not letting the cast really lean into it in a sense or not casting for that specifically where a lot of people were still in the regular paradise romantic phase and everyone like wasn't really leaning into the competition side of it as much as I was. So it was fun to film. I enjoyed it. But like the limiting accommodations were better. I wish that the viewing experience for the viewers was more like the old one.

Like less serious. Like give us our ITMs where people are cracking up and making jokes. I didn't feel like we got that in the new season. Even though when we were filming, I can only speak for myself when we're in the ITMs and whatnot. Like I feel like there was a lot better material that never saw the light of day and the viewers didn't see that I wish people got a chance to kind of view. What do you wish that they saw? What was the behind-the-scenes you were speaking of? Well, I think, like, there's so much, like, comedic elements, like, what we were doing

throughout the day, even just us hanging out, like, laughing, having a time. When you, like, go back and, I guess, rewatch the Paradise season, I saw Jeremy call Susie, like, a million times. Like, everything was centered around that, right? Like, I didn't. That was crazy. Oh, nuts, for sure. But that's centered around, like, the entirety of, like, the storyline for so long.

like six, seven episodes. And I think it made it feel much more heavy than what the experience of the cast was on Paradise. And you say like when you were talking about leaning into like the competition aspect of it all, do you feel like obviously we see you kind of handled that very well? Like you were very open and honest about like, okay, like yeah, it's a competition. Like let's get dirty. Like let's do this.

Yeah. But there was a lot of people that were. You can almost sense we're probably hesitant to really fully lean into that. Do you feel like that's because maybe they were worried about how they would come across, like in terms of edit? Or do you feel like it was something else? Like they just truly didn't want to, like, have a money game competition aspect of the show. I feel like it's the first.

I feel like they were just worried about how Bachelor Nation would view a competition show. And like when you start making decisions in the sense of money or love, even like the question at the end, like for love. for money. Yeah. Like, sorry, like, we met these people 30 days ago. I'm taking me the half a million dollars and I'm not even apologizing about it. To the bank account.

Yeah. Like, listen, I've been, you guys have been in the universe for a long time. I've been here for a long time. We know how Bachelor Nation relationships typically work out. And obviously, charity and diet and Joey and Kelsey, like, they're definitely like outliers in the sense, Katie and Zach. But the majority of people that meet on these shows don't work out. So if you're offering me $500,000 for, you know, that I'm taking it.

Yeah. And I'm not apologizing. guys for it. Honestly, smart approach. Like, not wrong. I can't find you there. Speaking of relationships, you did form a connection with Alicia. What was it about her that attracted you to her? And how did that go out of paradise from paradise world into the real world? Yeah, I think the initial attraction. So that night, it's kind of funny to put yourself back in those shoes. Well, so the behind the scenes of that is that was, we're getting rain delays a lot because there's so much rain going on in Costa Rica.

So when we get told we're going to dress up as birds and dance around, like you have to get a couple shots of liquid courage in you, you know? Unfortunately, we dress up. I'm like covered in glitter and paint and whatnot. I don't really remember that night that well. Like even Jill leaving. You don't remember your kiss with April? I remember that.

It's tough of you get. But post, post-performance performance, post-pecocki, I guess you can say. I don't really remember much. And then, like, Jill left. I remember, like, my reaction, just like, what? Like, so taken aback. And it kind of wasn't, like, the nicest reaction, so to speak.

It was almost so, you know, just taken off guard. But what initially attracted me to Alicia was, I guess, her outfit. She's stunning. She has beautiful eyes. And that was kind of the initial thing. And also, like, me and Jill, we definitely had friend vibes. Like, Jill's the best. She's so fun to be around.

But we definitely both kind of knew we were friends. And we weren't, Jill and I aren't the ones who'd be like, oh, let's put on a show for the cameras. And like, let's pretend to be, like, romantically interested. Like, that's not either of our personalities. So it was a new person coming in. And I knew that Jill and I were just better off his friends. So that's kind of what initially attracted to us.

Mm-hmm. So how did you and, like, Alicia's relationship kind of manifest throughout the, obviously we see to the end of paradise, but once you guys, like, kind of transition into the real world? Yeah, so like end of paradise, we go back and like she, she had that point in time was like living in Tampa. So I was like, this is crazy. You know, we have, we're living in the same area, which on a show doesn't typically happen. You kind of got a one person has to move.

And that's the reason why it's really tough to make these relationships work post show. So I was like, this is awesome. So we get back, have fun for like a week, meet her, meet her mom. And, you know, just started hanging out, get back from the real world. And then she told me, she was like, hey, I'm going to go visit my sister out in L.A. I'm like, all right, cool. I'll see you in like a week. She just never came back. So like, yeah, she stayed out in L.A. And I didn't want to do long distance. I didn't see myself moving to L.A. I got a house in Tampa. It was also like, you know, those are things you kind of got to plan out.

So I didn't want to do a distance. You don't want to do this distance. And then just, you know, kind of fizzled out that way. I haven't talked to her in forever, basically. Really? Yeah, probably almost a year. Like after the reunion of Paradise, where like, I felt I really, you know, could have, I had her back in a situation where I didn't necessarily thought I needed to. So yeah, after reunion really hadn't talked since. And when you say had her back, you mean the cat and Dale drama of it all or something else? Yeah, yeah. I didn't feel like at that point, like she had like kind of gone out to LA.

I didn't feel like I really, in the viewer's sense, we had just gotten off the beach and like you're connected, but like we had been separated for, you know, two or three months. And I felt like I didn't necessarily owe her, like, me defending her in a sense. And I just didn't want to pile on in that way. But, yeah, that's kind of what I mean by, you know, having her back when I didn't really need to. I remember when Paradise was airing, there were kind of rumors that you guys were together and then you weren't together. And then she was saying you guys are best friends. What was happening when all those rumors were swirling?

Yeah, it was weird. That was a really weird time because that was kind of around when we were out in London charity and, like, died. and the team and all the guys had gone to Europe, like probably two or three weeks before that. Right, right, right. Galvancing around Europe, having a blast. It was so much fun. And, like, all this stuff's going on where I, like, she would do it, like, a happy hour interview. And I felt like she would say stuff that wasn't necessarily, you know.

True. Yeah. Well, it would just be like, oh, like the whole, like, Dale type of stuff where it kind of put me as, like, a last resort option. But I'm like, well, if you felt that way, like, why would you go back to, like, Tampa why would we be dating? So I felt a little bit uncomfortable in some of the ways that she explained things. So then I'd bring it up and be like,

I don't worry about it, no big deal. And then like it would continue on like that in that sense. So it was just, I felt confused watching it back because I didn't know the stuff that we were seeing on TV and then seeing interviews. And yeah, it just was an interesting and confusing time, I would say.

Were you guys officially dating like boyfriend and girlfriend? When we left the show, yes. As it was airing, like, probably like end of july's middle of july end of july is when we like broke up i guess you say that's when she moved out to l.A. So like leaving the show yes and then we broke up pretty shortly after leaving the show. That's all right. Honestly, it's totally fine. We're all good. Where do things? I mean honestly I know I'm like where do things lie with you and cat? Like I feel like you guys are literally brother and sister like y'all have such a brother-sister relationship.

It's like y'all hate each other but they will literally always be loved. there and I think people don't really understand that, especially like in Bachelor Nation. It's like, how could they like, how could Sean do this or how could cat, you know, and it's like, this is like this is not a surprise to me. I'm like, this is so on brand for them too. Yeah. It worked fine. Yeah. Like, we definitely don't talk as much as we used to, but like there's not, there's not like, at least on my side, there's definitely no hatred towards cat or anything like that. I mean, we went to Vegas for New Year's. Everything is great. And I know she's doing really well

with her boyfriend. So, like, very happy for her. And she seems very happy. So, yeah, no bad blood. We are, I would say kind of like that brother's sister, like relationship type of sense where, you know, sometimes you get into little fights and, you know, everything moves over. But I'm like, that's also cat with anybody. I'm like, there's always something brewing.

But we love her. Yeah. And she seems like she's having an awesome summer and having fun. So every time we see her on Instagram, she's always smiling. It looks like she's doing good. So I'm happy. Speaking of dating. What is your dating life like today?

I would say it's good, healthy, I guess you can say. We love healthy. Yeah. I would say in terms of dating, I made the decision this summer to leave Tampa and come back up to New York for the summer. Just because it's so freaking hot down in Florida. Like Rachel, you grew up there. It is miserable from June until, you know, September. So I'm single and I have a little dog that's about in.

I work remotely so I can go and do whatever wherever. So came up here in the summer. Definitely upstate New York is not the most plentiful of like attractive single women. Like where I grew up is very, very much middle and nowhere. There is a lack of hot blondes in upstate New York. Yeah, definitely a lack of hop. This is my rehab actually. This is like my way to get over it.

Good. Yeah. So we're so up here, we're having a good time. But like, I travel so much. I was in Montauk for the fourth. I'm going to L.A. here in a couple of weeks. I'm going back down to Tampa to check in my house. I have this place called Saratoga, 30 minutes from me, which is, you know, a big horse racing scene where everyone comes in for the summer.

So I'm having a blast, definitely meeting a lot of people. And, you know, it's a healthy dating relationship, which is tough to have consistency when you're bouncing around so much. Yeah. So healthy just means, you know, you're having fun. no, you know, no heartstrings, whatever attached. It's just doing Sean. Yeah, just having a lot of fun. And, you know, I feel like, man, it's, it's, I enjoy having freedom in life.

And I feel like, you know, with my type of lifestyle right now, like, traveling so much, you can meet people that also kind of want the same. And like, you can have, like, very fun relationships and, like, friendships that form. And, you know, as long as I feel like people are both, like, open and honest about what they're looking for and not lead people astray, you can have success and have fun and be a good person doing that type of stuff. So I think that's important. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Do we want to jump right in? Watch all your favorite podcasts from start to finish right inside the free IHard radio app. Make some noise.

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And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this?

How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to the, visit the show. I would never

let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept.

You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity. Exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity.

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wherever you get your podcasts. So if you were to be single, let's say in a couple months, is there any interest in going back to Paradise? What's that looking like? We don't know. Are you done? Zero. I'm pretty much. Zero. And it's nothing to do. Like, I think Paradise is fun. Like, I truly enjoyed all of my time on all the Bachelor shows I did. Like, I've made so many good friends. Like, I've had such a good experience with it. I just feel like reality TV dating hasn't necessarily worked out the best for me and may not necessarily be the best for like my personality type whereas I would love to do another television show I just don't want to be forced into dating where if I can just be myself I feel like it's a lot better for a situation for

me long term so I'm looking for more of a project like that where there might be a romance involved but you're not like forced to date if that makes any sense so there might be something like that coming down the coming up here in the next couple months so we'll see are you saying you're going on another show we're i don't know if i'm saying that i feel like there's been conversations about it but we'll have to figure out what's what's going on it's there's nothing to do with the bachelor uh so it should be an interesting concept and i think would be fun it's so it's like not early on but it is in a sense where you know some of these things that you get talked to about it and like have a lot of conversations then it never ends up, you know, formulating anything.

So I don't want to jinx it, but things look like, it would be a really fun thing to do. And I do want to do it. So we'll see if it ends up working out. Exciting. We're rooting for you. Yeah. I love this. And speaking of your dog really quick, because Dot told me to ask about it.

He said, Ashton about his dog, which we saw your dog had surgery or like something happened. How is he doing? He's doing good. He's, uh, he had like a mass. tumor like directly on his chest. So it was on the skin. So they they took it out. Unfortunately, he is, he's a French bulldog.

So he's very muscular in general. And they, it literally looks like he got cut from like chest to chest. Like his entire chest got torn up. It was a huge scar. Yeah. Yeah. And he's doing good. The problem is he's like impossible to not, he wants to be around you at all

time. So if I'm on the couch, he jumps up on the couch. He's really not supposed to be doing that. And he popped his stitches the other day. So we had to go put him under again and like, restitch him up. So he's doing a little bit better now. I got him on these sedative pills, but there's this one area that is a really tough place to heal. So I'm happy that it wasn't anything crazy serious, but he's doing good. And like, you know, a week, a day after he got like put to

sleep and stitched up, he acts like the same dog. Like this dog is just, he just wants to be around you and have fun. Thank you for asking though. He's doing good. No, of course. I was like, I saw that picture and I was like, what happened? I was like, Dot. He's like, no, Sean said he's fine. I was like, Okay. So I thought it was going to be like a dime-sized incision. Like the tumor was very, it wasn't big. I came back. It literally looks like the Joker scars like across his entire chest.

And it was, it's mad. It literally is from his shoulder to shoulder. Did they explain why this, like, why it had to be, like, the incision had to be so big? They said that. It was, they had to make sure they got all of like the tumor. And I guess the tumor, it's almost like an iceberg is the way they explained it to me. So like the top of it was. like the top of it's not necessarily all of it. I'm not a vet, but they, they were very calm

when they were explaining it to me and they were very happy with the results. And I'm like, this dog looks like, you just harvested all this organs. I was like, yeah, it was crazy, but he's doing good. So I'm happy and he's like the best thing. He's so, he's so fun to be around. He's so loving. Good. Do you have him with you in New York? Yeah, he's actually sitting outside here. Let me go. I'm going to go grab with me. Yeah, yeah. Let me one second. Sean spoils that dog, like cook steaks for him. I'm like, please.

No. Steak is crazy. Sean is like the boogiest. Dog dad? And dog dad, yes. I am. I am. It's Kashmir.

Oh, hi. Oh, he's you cute. Hello. He looks very calm. He just got a second set of the fill, so he's just hanging out. If you can see, it's like, he got. Yeah, really cut up there. I see a little bit.

Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Poor baby. Sweet boy. He's doing good though. Well, we're glad. So I make his own food. I heard you guys talking about how goosy the dog dad.

The stakes. Like literally he eats better than most of America, like ground beef, rice, veggies. So when I had him as a puppy, he was, he would, he stopped eating. He wouldn't eat his kibble. So then that was like, you should, you know, I definitely try to make his own food. And since I started making his own food, he won't eat anything else. So, like, now I'm stuck in the kitchen, you know, making ground beef and rice and veggies. And he's a strong.

It's like, no, it's like when you fly first class, once you do it, you can't go back. Oh, we love that. Well, I'm glad he's doing good. Yeah. No, happy to see him. Happy to see him happy and calm right now. So all is well. Yeah, good, good.

Okay, Sean, we're going to play a little quick game if that's okay. Yes. Let's play. Okay, it is our behind the scenes photo deep dive. We've kind of been doing this recently with a lot of our guests and it's been really fun. So basically we're going to show you some BTS photos. The audience has never seen them before. So we're going to have to explain what's happening in the photo for them.

And for our audience who is listening on audio only, you can head over to Bachelor Happy Hour to look at the photos. So we're going to share our first one and let's see what we got in the archives. Oh my gosh. Oh my. I'm screaming. Sean, if you could describe it for the audience and then give us the behind the scenes and tell us how many champagne are going on in this picture. Okay.

So for the audience, this is the Birds of Paradise dance. I'm in the bathroom. and I'm in a peacock skirt with wings attached to my back with, I guess that's not Sharpie, but basically Sharpie that says, I want to flock, which is a play of words of, you know, you can fill in the gaps. And I had this bird mask on. It almost looks like I'm going to a masquerade. And that by the look of my eyes and my smile, that's at least seven champagnes deep.

As you should be in paradise. Yeah. As you should be. Was this on a rain delay or was this before it all started? That's definitely like mid-rain delay. And we're just, they had nothing to do besides just sit in the hotel room and drink. This photo is the summary of all of that. The mask looks a little lopsided, but it looks great nevertheless.

The wings are lopsided. Everything's like, yes. Everything's lopsied. Not great. Not great. Oh, my God. Oh, wait. No way. I love this photo.

I love this one. So good one. Oh, man. I was so funny as last night, I was up into Saratoga and I was at like a horse racing sale. And we were talking, I was talking to this lady that's from California. She's like, yeah, I'm from Oceanside. I'm like, no freaking way.

Okay, so this is Sean on my season of the Batchelred at our Barbie date. Obviously, he was a double denim kin. And I think it's either before he's about to perform or right after. But Sean obviously crushed that group date. He got the group date rose. So, yeah. Sean, tell us behind the scenes. I can't tell if this is before you performed or after.

I can't tell either. I'm literally wearing no shirt. And I'm wearing Ken underwear with jeans that should definitely be pulled up a tad. But I had apparently show off the Ken. logo on the underwear. I don't know if there's before or after, but you can tell if you look at my face, my nose is so burnt. Like my face is so sunned. Oh, I zoomed in. Yeah. So that was because when we did the dodge ball date, we were outside for so long in the sun. So long. So I was completely burned. My face like peeled off. But yeah, that was that was the most fun date. Even if I didn't like

win the group date or anything, like that was like so much fun because I think the guys really leaned into it. We did have like truly such a fun time. And yeah, that was so much like Oceanside, California. What a, what a place. We literally made the most out of it because I was like, Ocean Sat, interesting. But no, this was such a fun day. And I was like honestly very surprised that you guys all collectively leaned into it.

Because I was like, okay, there are going to be some. That's going to be like non, like half ass it. But I was like, wait, no, you guys all took your like kids very serious. And I was like, this is so spot on for Sean. I was like, everyone picked the right, like, profile. You know what I mean? It's like, I could not imagine you as anything else besides double dinner. Dot as like the astronaut.

Like, John B is the nude kid. Like, it's crazy. It all worked out. So it was such a fun day, truly, probably the best. Yeah. It was so much fun. And like us, we picked it ourselves and it was random. Like, you sometimes you wouldn't be able to get the option that you wanted to.

But I feel like, like you said, everyone morphed into their characters. Yeah. It was perfect. It was so much fun. Okay, we have the next, please, this is crazy. That's me. That's when I was blonde. I'm like both of you guys.

Wait, this is so insane. Oh my lord. Look at my. There's a lot of champagne happening in this picture. For those listening, it was from season nine Bachelor in Paradise Rose Ceremony. I think we were just like about to start the night. I probably had three champagne already. We're like, you're about to start.

So fun. Yes, that was start. That was definitely start. That was before we, like, began our night. And we definitely looked like we've been drinking all day. My hair looks like Ace Ventura when he, like, sticks his head out of the window. And it's just all over the place. Wait, this is so cute.

Aw. That was, yeah, Paradise Season 9, so fun. What week of, like, do you guys remember what Rose Ceremony Week this was? Like, was this early? I think it was like first one. Oh. Yeah, I had no idea, honestly. I usually can tell from like at that point like how long my hair got.

And like at first I like kept trying to do it. And then eventually you just give up and you're like, you know, I'm not even like using a blow dryer or gel. It's just going to be all over the place. So that looks a couple, a couple weeks in. But yeah, that was, I think I maybe was giving Rachel my rose that night. I'm pretty sure I was. Duh, obviously. I think because I was sitting in front of you.

I think we were all sitting in front of who we were giving the rose to. Way cute. Cute. This dress is so cute on you, Rachel. I know. Carrie loved that one too. I loved that. Wait, so cute.

Okay, that's so cute. Yeah, and that's all the pigs, but these are, like, really fun ones. Those are good ones. Definitely bring back some good, fun memories, for sure. Perfect. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Thank you, Sean. And thank you for obviously coming on Bachelor Happy Hour. We are so happy that we got to catch up with you. Where can our listeners follow and keep up with you? Yeah. I'm pretty active on Instagram at Shawnee McLaughlin, but it was so great catching up with you guys. If I was John B, I would have made a joke like all my mom and like both of my exes, but I'm not. So I didn't like that joke. So it was so great talking to you guys.

Classic joke. It's like we already know. I'm like it's always keyed up from John B. But perfect. Okay. And to our audience, listeners, you guys can follow us at Bachelor Happy Hour and at Bachelor Nation. Make sure you rate, review, subscribe, wherever you listen to your podcast, and we will see you guys very soon. Bye. I survived nine months in captivity, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducting. stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to pro society on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle.

I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook. Each week, we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show.

We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stillard, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotbby, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. You know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out.

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