Bachelor Happy Hour - Secrets: Confess or Conceal? | Golden Hour

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions! We start things off with a breakdown of this week’s drama-filled episode of “Bachelor in Paradise.” Kathy and Susan have so much to say about Sean and Allyshia. They give us their real thoughts on all the drama that’s gone down on the beach. Then, we get into our advice portion of the episode, starting with the question of the day: How can you tell when apologizing is just to clear your conscience versus is actually good for the person you hurt? And, of course, we answer your questions! From being caught cheating to a partner lying about how you met, we have our listeners covered! Plus, we end this episode with a round of Never Have I Ever. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members

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Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us. We're so excited to be back. I'm in sunny Canada, Susan. How are you doing? It's hot and humid here, but we did have a gorgeous, no-humid weekend here in Philadelphia. Oh my God, the weather in Canada. Can I just say Texas, you know, they say it's hotter than hell. That is Texas this time of year. Canada is gorgeous, windows open. I love it. I love it. It's like San Diego weather. And today, we are going to be answering more of the fan questions. Make sure you keep them coming and submitting. We love reading them. Just go to, if you forgot hell, I'm going to remind you once again, bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit away. And please send us everything,

your questions, your comments, your updates, all of it. You can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Absolutely can. Okay, so time to get into the episode. Kathy, we've got to start with this week's episode of Paradise, the treasure chest challenge, do tell. I mean, so here was the thing. We had to decide who was going to be

the hunter and who was going to be trapped in the, and you trapped in the chest. And you know, Susan, I have claustrophobia. I don't like it. And not to mention being locked in a chest when it's 108 degrees. I would have never gotten in. Never.

Well, let me just say, I wanted Keith to change his will. He wasn't willing, but he did, Keith is more claustrophobic than I am. So I agreed to do it. And you did see I had a little alcohol help in there. So that made it better. Well, I saw well sneaky a little something. I said, okay, that's why she's there. But you said, why send a man to do a woman's job? Kathy, I think you guys would have actually won had you been out there. He wasn't, first of all, walkie talk, he sucked. And he was, I'm just watching him. He was, struggling. Keep, no offense, man. I love Keith.

The truth is, and I said it on the show, you have to be a good, you have to enunciate and speak slowly. And I did. It was so hot in there, I cannot tell you. He couldn't hear you. I mean, he was going, I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God, you're not going to make it. I know. And when I watched it back and saw Jess and Spencer, it was like, hello, where's the key?

Oh, put the key in. Okay, next job. You know, it was ridiculous. Jonathan speaks up right when you're about to start the challenge and he said, I have to pee. I'm like, what? You're never going to make it. You're never going to make it. It was a really fun challenge, but I will tell you, it was, at least for Keith and me, it was a tough challenge.

But again, all the challenges were so much fun. Yeah. Okay, so what else? Alicia and Sean did really well. They did good. Of course, Jess and her man, I just love those two. How about their yoga date? I mean, they're so in love.

So here's the thing. Alicia, I thought they did really well. You know, it was fun. It was a fun activity. I never thought for a minute that I was going to be buried alive. You know, I had to get back to you. How about when Leah was crying? Like when I see Jonathan, again, I'm going to teach him.

You hold a girl that's, crying. He was so cold his, I think that's why you don't have a girlfriend. No, no, no. I'm going to, I love Leah and Jonathan, but I have to defend Jonathan here. Okay. He, he did not, in my opinion, he did not want to send out the wrong message. She was crying and when a woman cries, you hold her. I know, but, but, but, well, he did that at the Rose ceremony, but that's another story. I just think that he, they have a friendship and I, I just think he felt weird about it but you do i think he was uncomfortable and he should have just held her and said it's okay babe it's okay your day will come look out look out jonathan susan's coming for you

i'm going to teach you something jonathan kathy when sean told you to just i thought he was going to say zip it i would have lost my mind he's like shh kathy i mean he's entitled he's entitled okay let's talk about politician Sean like what was that about The Parliament of Paradise. I know. Wait, I what, can I have some cred here? Did you notice your girl was not in the middle of this drama? Did you notice?

Oh, yes. I mean, honestly, I'm watching this going on. I'm going, oh, no, no, no. Stay away. Stay away. But I thought where you were going, I couldn't, I didn't understand it on the show, and I didn't understand it watching it back. The guy was politicking like crazy.

he should run. He should run for mayor or something. Well, his father is a politician. Okay. I know. So I'm watching this going on and I'm like, are you kidding me? But here's the thing. I have to say when did you hear me say two things. Because Kathy is honest. When I said that Brian and Parisa needed to leave, I really thought Keith and I were going home. I really did. That's why I wore the beautiful white dress. I said I bought that in case I got engaged, right? Right. All right. I'm not getting engaged. I'm going home tonight. I'm wearing the white dress. But here's the thing. Parisa was so unhappy. Like, you know, you saw, remember when she goes to his room in a prior episode? And she was so worried about their relationship. And then, so, you know, I don't think they were struggling. And I wanted them to go home and find, see if they had love at home without the stress. Well, what about Alicia talking with the girls?

she really had her feelings hurt and she opened up. I think that was the wisest thing she could have done. I agree. Feel better afterwards, right? Yeah, and then the other thing that I said, you know, when Sean came to talk to Keith and me and he said, well, we have one of the strongest relationships with me. I looked at him right now. I said, no, you don't.

Well, wait, Sean and Kat, whoa, Kat showed me a different side of Kat this week. I have to say. Tell me. First of all, I thought they were friends prior to as well. They were. She didn't act like she gave two hoots about his friendship. Let me tell you. And I didn't think it was good at all.

And because the money's involves, it's a whole new ball game. Okay. So let me just say my feelings on that. Okay. I have said from the beginning, when they introduced the money factor, I said, oh boy, here we go. You know, love her money, which one's going to win out? And my thought on this episode, if I had to, you know, if I had to give the summation, it would be, it's starting to get real. And so some people are there for love.

And like Jonathan, the land, Jonathan comes right out and says it. He's there for the money. Keith and I had said on, and it was shown, I think, last week, we're not taking money out of kids' hands. But you've got this thing now where the people who are in love, I mean, I'm sure you heard it when Jess and Spencer told each other they're falling in love. Oh, they're so cute. And Jess says, whoa, whoa, and Spencer says, oh, it's about, you know, there's a lot of money involved. And what does Jess say?

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We came here to find love. And that, to me, sundered up the whole episode. Yeah, that was a... You can have love and you can have money. But if you don't have love with the money, you're in trouble. Well, and it just said this would be a great start for our future, winning the money, but if they don't, they were fine.

Now, let's get down to the rose ceremony. First of all, Dale farting, I lost it. Listen, I love Dale. He could do anything he wants, and I'm still going to support him. Don't care. Love him. And I was quite surprised. More so, not only did Alicia and Sean, they left on their own,

but the girl's reaction. I have to interrupt. Okay. You didn't, I don't think people picked up on this. After they left with integrity, we can talk about that, did they really? Jesse Palmer says, well, they were going home anyway. Yes. They were voted off.

They didn't. We all heard that. Okay, well, no, some other people said to me, do you think the third couple would have gone? It was like, no, they were the couple going home. are going home, but they did that before they knew that. They didn't know. The feeling I got was, we know we're going home, so we're going to get out of here first. But when Sean, when Alicia says, we're leaving with integrity, and then he popped off, Sean pops off and says, don't call me when this one goes sideways.

He had to be cocky. Well, that's not integrity. No, that wasn't right. That wasn't right. and Parisim and Brisa and Brian they laugh with no rose and then they show the previews for next week I was dying first of all when Keith starts I was like what you're homesick you want to go home you're there for a reason now it's a game now okay it's not about love you know you have a friendship and to be perfectly honest with you because you guys had such a great friendship I I would assume you went home last week as well. Present tense. We have a great friendship. Yes. Well, sorry, you have a good friendship. But I would have thought because of that, use weren't a real threat to them.

Get it. But you guys are very smart. They don't know if you're going to try to steal the money or not. I assume that they would have let you go. Instead, the Brian and the Paris said, like, that was coming for a while. Well, that's it, Susan. I think they'd had all the fun with Brian telling Bailey that whole thing. I think that was, I think Brian was going. And then how about Jess saying, oh, my gosh, when he said something about their future and she goes, I don't know that I'm going to be ready to move right in with you. And she ruined my whole night.

She was so in love. They were falling in like, what did you just say? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Remember, it's a show, and it's a truncated version. You know, you don't have months here to fall in love. So they said they're falling in love. Are you going to move in with a guy you've known for whatever, a month, six weeks?

I don't think so. No, no. So I think it was just going to. I respect Jess. I hope that's all it is, Kathy. I do. I hope that's all of it. Yeah.

I'm just saying that's a lot of pressure. As a mom, we're moms. Would you want your daughter to move in with a guy she met six weeks ago? I don't think so. No, no, of course not. But you're going to talk about future. They're saying they've fallen in love with each other. I think they are the sweetest couple in the whole show.

I'm sorry. Excuse me? You're not a couple. We're a friend couple. Okay, but that's not a couple. You're friends and good friends. But the show to me is about falling in love, right? Finding your partner.

I'm sorry. This show is about. finding love and maybe finding $500,000. Yeah, well, they put that twist in there, didn't they? So I'd be really interesting to see next week. I think, well, you saw it next week. They hinted, they gave a teaser about camping. Yes.

Oh, boy, I can't wait. You know, Alicia. My idea, camping, Kathy, is no phone in the room. So I'm just going to tell you, I love to camp. I love tent camping, and I think people would be surprised to hear that. Now, you saw the previews. I'm camping in a very expensive silk dress, but still. When's the last time you camped?

Caitlin, my daughter, her husband, and I camped right before. It's been like two years because Caitlin had a baby. Okay, so you have a tent and sleeping bags. I have, Susan, I have a tent, I have a sleeping bag, I have a pad for the sleeping bag, I have cooking utensils, I love it. Bug spray, I love it, I tell you. It's like when I come home, I need to delouse myself, but I love camping. You're not afraid of snakes and bears and creatures out there.

You don't like it? I told you, my idea of camping is no phone in the room. You mean the hotel room? In the room, period, a cabin, wherever you want to put me. Wait, I thought when you said that I heard tent, I'm thinking, all right, you can leave your phone outside the tent. There is nothing as great as unzipping your tent and looking up at the sky and the stars. I can walk out the cabin door in the morning and look at that same sky and be perfectly happy and poop on a toilet, not out in the woods. This is why you and I love each other.

Like, people would not think, they probably would think you would camp and not me. It's exactly the opposite basketball nation. Exactly. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor

and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you you get your podcast all right this was really good now i think we're going to have to get into our advice portion of this episode i'll start us off with the question of the day when you've done

something wrong how can you decipher whether coming clean is best for the person you hurt versus just trying to clear your own conscious oh oh i i i i I have the answer for me. Yeah. Well, we may disagree on this, actually. Well, go ahead. For me, if I've done something wrong and I think that apologizing, first of all, is always right. But if I come clean and it's going to further hurt you, I'm not coming clean.

It's coming clean is best for the person that you hurt versus. I'm always, that's what I said, I'm always going to come clean and apologize unless it's, right, it's selective. Coming clean if it's best for the person, I'm not there to decide what is best for you. So if I feel like coming clean is going to further hurt you, I'm not coming clean. I'm not, even though clear my conscience. Well, I said what I had to say. I feel better now. Uh-uh, not me. What about you?

I would definitely, when I admit, when I do something wrong, when people, if somebody tells me, I do 100% apologize. But what if telling me? But it's already said. You can't take back what you've said, right? No, but if you did something, said something to me and you've done something wrong and now, and maybe not to me. Maybe you've done something wrong. You said some about my family or something. And you, and in clearing your conscience and in apologizing, you dig the whole deeper. Have you ever heard of that happening?

Like, stop, quit while you're ahead. Like, I get it. You're sorry, but now you're making it worse. My conscience always feels better when I admit my fault. And if I've hurt anybody, I'm sincerely sorry. Yes, so am I. But if clearing your conscience makes the other person feel worse, like you have to give them more information, like, oh, my God, Susan,

I'm glad you feel better now that you've apologized. Now you've also just, now you've made me feel worse. I don't feel better that I apologized. I feel better when it's accepted and things go back to normal. But I would feel bad the entire time. I don't understand whether the question reads, when you've done something wrong, How can you decipher whether coming clean is best for the person you've hurt or just to clear you?

Coming clean is always best. The truth will always set you free, even if people are upset with you. We're going to hammer that one in stone. I guess what I'm saying is sometimes when you're, not you, but when one is apologizing and they have to give more context to understand, you know, I'm sorry, Susan, but here's what was going on. I'm making it. it up you're going to laugh like i'm sorry i did that but i was sleeping with frederick at the time and i you know what i'm saying it's like sometimes you can add insult to the injury so i think sometimes it's a simple apology sometimes is better um and it's always you're exactly right it's always better to be honest but i think sometimes you don't need to add yeah i guess we could agree on that. Okay, how about this?

Let me give an example to help you understand where I'm coming from. Okay. What if someone cheated on someone 10 years ago? They did it one time. And then, and now, you know, they told their partner, like,

is that worth hurting them to say that they cheated 10 years ago? No, you should go to your grave. Oh, but you just said the truth is I was the best. Truth will say it's something I've done. But in a situation, like you're saying 10 years ago he cheated and he's still with her you cheated on your partner 10 years later you decide to come clean and tell your partner would it be worth hurting them

no oh but the truth set you free that's what i'm saying sometimes the context makes it worse so you don't always come but it might make you feel better your own conscience might feel better To release your own guilt. Yes, yes, yes. It wouldn't benefit that. So that's what I'm saying. So sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut. You don't know what I'm saying.

Yes, yes, I agree. However, if I'm cheating on someone, it's not going to be once in 10 years. You're not going to cheat. You're right on that. Let's start those fan questions. We're going to get into these fan questions. I'm going to start us off at the first one. Okay.

This one is from Anonymous. Hi, ladies. I'm in a tough spot and could really use some help. This past weekend, I went out with my friends to a club. The next morning, one of the girls sat me down and told me I made out with a guy towards the end of the night and gave him my phone number. I'm currently in a four-month relationship and am panicking. Do I tell him and apologize? My group is split. Half think I should. The other half-think it'll do more harm than good. What do I do? Thanks, ladies. First of all, she don't remember. How drunk are you? Well, where I was going, first of all, she doesn't remember because I'm going to go with she was drunk. And what do I always say? Being drunk is never an excuse for bad behavior.

So, girlfriend, you drank too much. Now you got a problem. See, too many people know, because if you decide to keep your mouth shut than somebody else might tell them. What would you do? I don't know. Maybe just say, babe, I got so drunk, I think I kissed somebody. Oh my God, I'm so sorry. Well, first of all, a form of relationship. I think she doesn't remember doing it, so. Yeah. Well, and like I said, drinking is not an excuse for bad behavior. But what would you do? What would you do? I know what I would do. You would zip it? I'd be afraid.

I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I mean, tell them the truth. Yeah, like I said. No, you just said zip it, which is it? You can't play both sides to tell them. But if I didn't remember doing it, I'd have to tell them. My friends told me I kissed somebody last night, and I don't remember doing it.

I mean, listen, where there are two or more in his name, there's gossip. So he's going to find out. So you might as well come clean. But I would come clean because that's who I am. And I would say. I don't remember doing it. I would say John or Frederick. I am so sorry.

My future guy is John. Is there John out there who wants me? I would say, John, I'm so sorry. Here's the deal. This is what happened. I got drunk. And there's no excuse for that. I got drunk and I didn't know told this morning when Susan told me that I made out with a guy.

It's bad behavior. And you know what, John? I think I need to stop drinking because I have no memory of it. I want to go forward with you. I hope you will forgive me. And if he says, I'm out of here, you know what? You learned really quickly. A valuable lesson.

There you go. I wouldn't drink anymore. I've never been blackout drunk. Have you? Wait, have I ever been blackout drunk? Maybe once. You didn't remember anything? No, but I mean, I don't remember.

So maybe, you know, I don't drink to the point of getting drunk because I subscribe, I take my own advice, you get drunk, there is no excuse. You cannot say to you, Susan, I'm so sorry, I got really drunk. What did I, uh-uh, that's not an excuse. So I don't know if I've been blackout drunk. I don't think so. A lot of people use it. Yeah, well, stop using it.

That's my advice for that. All right, we got a second question. Hi, Kathy and Susan, I need to know if you think I'm overreacting. I just found out that my boyfriend of three years completely lied to me about how we met. Oh, boy. And I feel so weird. Basically, his best friend slipped up while we were out this weekend and said, I'm so glad you two are together.

Seeing him be so into you for so long and not go for it for over a year was agonizing. Like, look at what he would have known. missed out on. I was confused because when my boyfriend and I met, we struck up conversation in the library at our college, and I have always believed he met me or knew of me for the first time that day. After pressing his best friend for more details, he told me that he met me at a party freshman year and was crushing on me from afar for an entire year before we met. His best friend apologized profusely and said he assumed I knew that was the deal now I feel really icky that he lied and was crushing on me from afar I don't know it makes me feel weird

and I haven't mentioned it to my boyfriend yet any ideas on what to do next thanks lady yes that I have an idea stop that is like a compliment you idiot hey you know what I'm thinking I'm reading this going this girl is under the age of 25 Oh, my God. The blanked-blank over it. Who bears? It's a wonderful thing you liked me for that long and you finally asked me out. Susan, where can I find a guy who wants to crush on me from a phone?

I mean, seriously, this is youth at its best right here. You obviously listen to our podcast. Listen to me now. Yes. Thank the guy, the best friend, for telling you that. And your heart should just be pounding right now. Who cares? Wait, I'm sorry.

I'm going. to a whole different level. Where is she coming from? Who cares if he told you, didn't care? You're with the guy for three years. You're happy. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with youth of today?

I'm sorry. Or for thinking. It's not thinking at all. That's the problem. Sweetheart. It's a blessing. It's a blessing. Just think about it.

He has been admiring you for a year and he didn't have the courage to come up to you for a whole year. God bless him. And you're thinking it's weird? What is weird about that? You know what? this girl probably thinks it's weird if he sends her flowers honey whoever you are you need to get over this

you met him you mix her saw he conquered get over it what is itgy that is a compliment above all I mean I see him into for so on wait and agonizing I was confused because when my boyfriend I met we struck up a con you know what I'm so wait wait it was crushing on me from before he We're going to back up. Sweetheart. Not you, sweetheart anonymous. I am so sorry that you met this guy in the library at college, had this great conversation. You were attracted to each other. You met that day. We saw stars in the sky. It was like love at first sight. Sucks to be you. Get over it. If that's your biggest problem, you are blessed young lady.

I mean, I'm sorry, that may be. I don't know where it came from. This is the strangest question we have ever had. I love you, and I'm so glad that you are in love with this guy and have a boyfriend of three years. Don't worry how you met. Embrace him for this. Embrace him. Think how lucky you are.

All right, Kathy. I mean, we both feel the same way, but what if? Yeah. What if he studied her in a way and he knew things about her, and he was. trying to impress her but he already knew it's almost like a stalk kind of thing okay now you've just gone from anonymous enjoy it to creep i'm with you anonymous if that's the case that's weird that then again here i am again miss positive thinker i would think oh how sweet he wanted to get to know what i like so he could impress me yeah but no no no no no whoa whoa no if i'm going down to your

example if in fact he knew her favorite flowers and he knew where she went to a bar and so all of a sudden he's showing up, you know, she starts thinking back on the last year or whatever. I saw a movie like this once. Yeah. Now it's stalkerish. Now it's weird. Now I don't like it. So Anonymous, if that's the case, I apologize. Maybe it's weird. I think what you have to do, Anonymous, is reevaluate how he's treated you for three years. Or is it just, it wasn't the happenstance meeting that you thought it was? The other thing I will say is if you met him in freshman year and you don't remember it, you clearly have too many guys chasing after you, so you might want to think about that.

I still think it was a compliment. But if it were the other case, I could understand that. Then it's a stalker and then I'm out. So she, you know, obviously something's going right. It's three years. I'm sorry. It's three years. I know.

Something's good working. Don't look at a gift horse in the mouth, okay? All right. I'm excited about this. If he's sending you flowers and he's, you know, he watched you shop for flowers and he bought you the same ones 10 times, say thank you. Thanks for writing in. We enjoyed that one. All righty, Kat.

Today, we're going to play. Never have I ever. Susan, Susan's favorite, never of I ever. Kathy and I are going to switch off saying things we've never done. I think I'm finally getting this game, I swear. If the other person has done it, they put a finger down or drink a wine, right? The first person with five fingers loses. I'll start us off.

Oh, this is different. Okay. I'm just drinking, Susan. You put your fingers down. I'm just going to be drinking. It's easier. All right. All right. First thing, I've never slipped with my boss to get ahead.

I'm not drink. I have never so. Or lied to get ahead. No. No, we're not drinking. Okay, we're going to be boring at this. We're going to be boring at this. We're going to be boring. It's all ghetto. All right, here's my first one. Never have I ever dated a man that one of my friends dated first. Oh, I had that one too, went out with someone's backs. Have you done that? No. Have you done it? Oh, hell, Susan, we've got to get some years like get a drinking. Your turn.

Never have I ever been on dancing with the stars, but I hope it happens this year. We can't drink to that one either because you haven't. Okay. Never have I ever disrespected an older person or in Catholic school a nun or a priest. I was scared to death. I've never disrespect it. Well, first of all, I never went to Catholic school, so I'm just going to have a drink because, you know, cheers to confession. I'm drinking. Didn't go to Catholic school.

Okay. Never have I ever. I can't say this one, Katz, because I did do this one. It's my turn. It's my turn. You can't do them all. Never have I ever sent a spicy selfie. Don't lie, Susan, drink up.

Uh-huh. There she is, drinking up. Uh-huh. I haven't. Oh, I have. Why am I not surprised? What's your boyfriend? I mean. I haven't, I never do with my husband, ever. Okay. Never have I ever. Oh, yes, I have.

Okay. I'll give you an easy one. Never have I ever stolen anything from a store. I stole a pack of certs when I was 14 years old You know what? I just remembered I stole a pack of gum once When I was young

Oh God, I have to take two sips now I forgot when you just said that Okay Didn't get caught though My boyfriend's professor Is way too friendly And now I'm seriously suspicious Oh wait a minute Sam

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Yes, I have. Susan, you're supposed to be saying once that you've never done. You just want to drink. Mine are boring. Okay, here's one for you. Never have I ever let a man take me shopping and then let him pay the bill. Oh, God, are you drinking? No, but I take men shopping and I pay the bill.

You, seriously? No. Wait, I want to back up. And then I want you to take two sips of wine. You have taken men shopping and you've paid the bill? I bought stuff for them, yeah. Uh-huh, okay. No one's taking me shopping and paying the bill.

They'd be scared. I'm just stunned. Why am I not actually stunned? Susan likes people to dress a certain way, and apparently Susan's now willing to pay the price. She's going to dress them. She's going to dress them. Oh, my God. Okay.

Never have I ever jumped out of an airplane. I have not either. We're boring. But I'd like to. That's how it's on my bucket list. When I went on Golden Bachelor, that was one thing that I wanted to do was jump out of the airplane. Yes, so my bucket list. And I didn't.

So let's just for a recap of Golden Bachelor. Kathy never had a one-on-one date. She never got a gift and she never jumped out of an airplane. Okay, moving on. Never have I ever paid the entire bill when on a first date with a guy. Oh, God, you're drinking again, girlfriend? You have paid the day. the entire bill on a first date with a guy.

Absolutely. You know why? If I knew I was never going to see them again, it helped me not feel so guilty. Oh, I've split a bill. I have split a bill. No, I paid the whole thing. Oh, my God. All right. Yeah, I should have been a guy, I think. I think so. I'd be a great guy. All right, Kathy, have you ever text, sent a text to the wrong person? but I did it So I Then you can't say it

These are things you've never done This is why I hate this game You never have I ever Never That's because you've done a lot of things All right I got another one Never have I ever

Snuck into a movie Sorry Snuck into more than one movie When only paying for one movie In other words You've done that too? Yeah Susan

Go to the next one Wait can I just say I would just like to point out something here Kathy who gets ripped on on the internet lives a clean I don't swear at the nuns that I don't know

I don't speak in them That's what I'm saying I don't do any of this stuff I don't do anything bad And there's Miss Susan She's such a rule follower I am so boring. It's working for me.

It's so much fun to bend the rules. Bend the rules. Susan breaks them in half and then breaks them in half. Never have I ever got pulled over for speeding and actually got a ticket. I've never been pulled over for speeding. Of course not. And I've never had a ticket. What?

Because you don't speed either, right? Wait, can I tell you a funny story? Can I, oh, I do speed. A funny story. when I was doing my global entry you have to go and be interviewed by people before they let you get your global entry the guy comes out to interview me

and he goes are you for real and I said what he goes you have nothing he said this I've never he said I've been doing this interviewing people you are the first person

you've never had a parking ticket I said I know he goes no we don't get people like that I said, I know, can I have my global entry now? Kathy, when we were being screened and everything to be on the show and the Golden Bachelor, same thing. He had said to me, oh, there's two things. I actually paid money online to see what my criminal record was,

and it was an outstanding parking ticket. Wait, you, you, I'm sorry. It was a dollar. You researched your criminal background? Yes, because it said I had two things criminal, and they were both tickets. One, I never paid. I didn't know I had it.

I mean, I got to tell you, when my husband, who did have several speeding tickets, and in the state of Texas, I'm just going to blow everyone's mind here. You can pay a lawyer who walks into the court with a stack of tickets and gets you off the ticket.

Yes, welcome to the rough shot, Texas, where laws are just suggestions. But my husband was driving once and was speeding, and I was panicked. because he was going so fast because he wanted to get to wherever we were going. I said, I hope you get pulled over. I'm going to tell the cop to give you a ticket.

Of course you will. I hear, I hear, comes down. He looked at me like I am, like I, you know. And I looked at the cop and I said, would I tell you about thoughts? And the cop gave him a ticket. And he said, my head was so bad.

He did. And you know what I said to him? Oh, big deal. You got that lawyer friend of yours. You just pay him 300 bucks and it doesn't go on. record get over yourself true story all right when else you got there for me oh i don't know um did you ever wait i did do this too did you ever send a text to the wrong person about that person that i have that i have done yes we've all done never have i ever left a restaurant without paying

you ever done that no oh well good glad to hear it i'm just checking your moral moral compass here Never have I ever dated more than one guy at a time. Oh my God, she's thinking. I don't know. Well, like in a relationship? No, but if you're just meeting people. Susan's looking for the gray area. No, when you're on the dating apps and you see one one night and the next week you've met somebody else, that's not really dating.

No, I don't do two times. So if you've had more than one date with a guy, you don't have to. No, maybe I have. Hey, Frédique, listen up, buddy. She's got a guy in Philly and the guy in St. Martin. Because we were broken up well over a year and we saw each other again. What now? When I was dating Mark, remember for two years?

And then we broke up over a year. We didn't talk. And then we got together again. But I had been, no, I wasn't really dating anybody else. Let me just say, do you hear, I want everyone to pay attention. You're hearing season going, well, I don't remember. never have I ever Susan would never have a

drink again because Susan has done most things in life and I am proud of you girlfriend you're living the life that I have never lived it's called experience that's what made me who I am today I've had a lot of experiences crocheting knitting you had no experience Kathy

you were still wet behind the ears you got married and moved to Brazil I mean God's country I moved to Scotland Scotland excuse me not even the same continent may I at but what's a few countries Wait, how about Teresa on our podcast with Teresa

and her saying she was a star of the play and where is that coming from? I don't know, just made me think of it. Scotland, Berlin, whatever. I thought, no, I was surprised to find out she lived in Berlin when she was first married because I lived in Scotland when I was first married. Never have I ever told someone

that I loved them and didn't mean it. I've done that. Does that mean I have to drink? Drink, cafe. Put the fingers down, got me. Yeah, you know what? These old arthritic fingers are going on now, but I will take a drink. You've never done that?

No. No, you know me. I fall in love easy. Oh, wait a minute. So let me get this right. I've told guys that I loved him once or twice when I didn't. You tell every guy you love him and mean it. I do.

Okay. You beat it for 10 minutes. Is this what I'm married? No, I was not proud of it. Actually, I only did it once, and I felt terrible about it. I did. You were uncomfortable. You wanted them to feel better.

I know. I know. I think I was nervous in the moment. Like I was, we did it for a while, and I wasn't ready to let him go, but I wasn't sure. Have you ever told someone that you are in love with them and they didn't say it back? yes one time isn't that an icky feeling it was and i will say i am still friends with that guy today it was the iciest feeling on the mine was like a week before christmas and i it was the moment and i said it i know he loved me i knew he did and he said thank you and i was like what kathy

it changed thank you everything and then new year's eve at midnight he tells me he loves me little did he know he blew it i hated him for making me feel like that and he said i would have told you that night but i wanted to do it at me i go you're fucking weird okay wait a second well wait this story's getting way too convoluted for me he he said thank you but he did love you but he didn't tell you yes this is why wait can i just say to you this is this is the kinds of experiences that i hope our listeners write in has this ever happened to you? Did you ever tell someone you love them and not mean it? Did you, do you think it's weird that this guy didn't tell Susan? Like, I think that's weird.

Two weeks, two and a half weeks later. You're counting the weeks? Kathy, it changed me inside. You don't know. Because you didn't love him anymore? No, I still loved him, but no, everything was different after that. Why? It was about a control thing. I think I really know you and then you come out with a ball in left field here. Can you give me a definition for narcissists? Yes, in my opinion, a narcissist is a person who only thinks of themselves. Everything, it's egocentric. Everything revolves around them.

Implications are only how they feel, how something reacts to them, how they can make it best for themselves, without any regard to someone else or how it affects someone else. How's that for a definition? That was him. is it? So, I don't know if we were success at this game or we sucked at it. Well, I think the conclusion is Susan has done most everything and lived in incredible life and Kathy is still knit one, pearl one, knit one, purl one. But you know what? Here's the good news. We are golden. Age is just the number. We got plenty of time for me to try all this step out, right?

it's never too late kathie it's never too late get up off the sofa and live that's what i say all right here we go wait it was so much fun text my boyfriend text my friend to be rescued mid bad date oh you still want to play some more this game i'm in i just thought i have done that i have absolutely done have you have you drink and on that yes of course you know what susan never have i ever had a boring conversation with you never have i ever never have i ever But I'm going to drink to it. All right, this was really so much fun. Thank you to all of our listeners for joining in today.

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This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Wes West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know I get in on. come from the urban areas, you understand politics more than you giving credit for.

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