Bachelor Happy Hour - Shifting Dynamics | Golden Hour

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re answering more of your fan questions, and this episode is all about relationship dynamics. We kick things off with the question of the day: Have you eve...r experienced a shift in relationship dynamics due to external circumstances? Then, we move into our fan questions! Today’s listeners want to know what to do when travel ruffles a romantic connection and when boys get in the way of a girls trip--sometimes things get messy and we’re here to help you dodge the fallout! Plus, we wrap things up with a round of “Truth or Drink.” Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! Looking for some advice? Head to BachelorNation.Com/GoldenHour to submit a question or DM us on Instagram @BachelorHappyHour See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members
Starting point is 00:00:17 and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she's going to keep it a century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:38 or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. Open is here and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain. I'm breaking down the players, the predictions, the pressure. And, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very wonderfully experiential sporting event. To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain. I Heart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:02:57 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No such thing. Welcome back, everybody, to Bachelor, Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us, and Kathy and I are very excited to be back. We're always excited to be back here, what's going on in each other's lives. Susan is working on her tan in St. Martin. She wants to see just how dark she can get. That is so not true.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I haven't been to the beach yet. Yeah, let me explain to everyone, Susan's idea of sunscreen. She gets up in the morning, sprays a little bit of sunscreen on, and then she's at the beach all day. That's what Kathy thinks, anyhow. All right. I use 50, for God's sake,
Starting point is 00:03:48 the hat and an umbrella, seriously. Well, I just get dark. I have different skin than you. And those out there listening that are Italian or Spanish. Oh, you just get dark without the sun? They understand. All you have to do is walk outside and we turn.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Anyhow. Anyhow, I walk out and I burn. Okay. And those who are of Irish whatever to say. All right. Today we're going to answer more of your fan questions. Susan, are I going to see how many times we can agree or disagree today. But for us
Starting point is 00:04:23 to talk about these questions and answer them, you have to submit them first. So go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit all your questions, comments, thoughts, prayers, wishes, all the above. And yes, please do everything she just said. You can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. All right. We're getting into the episode right now.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We're going to start with the question of the day. Here we go. Susan, have you ever experienced the dynamics of a close relationship? change due to external circumstances. For example, a close colleague getting promoted, were you able to salvage the relationship? Oh, I have a great story on this. Can I go first or you want? Yes, yes, I've had friends move on and up and no, I don't think it changed our relationship
Starting point is 00:05:20 at all. I mean, I was really happy. Did you start up at the same with them? Were you at the same level? Yes. And they moved on and you didn't or you did and they didn't? Yeah, it was in gymnastics way back when because we'd competed and somebody moved on and I didn't. But that's young.
Starting point is 00:05:40 What about as an older person? No. I don't know. Well, one jumped out at me when I was, I worked at a school. I was their high school placement director. Right. The head of school, I knew from a prior where my kids had gone to school years ago. Anyway, she came to be the head of school at our school.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And she promoted, these two women, myself and the other woman, worked together. We ran the marketing and advertising and communications department. Over the summer, she promoted the other girl to the director's show and left me out. and I was stunned, A, because I thought I was equally, if not more capable. Anyway, long story short, I said, what- Did it change the relationship? Oh, my God, yes, but here was the thing. She said, I said to her, what, I couldn't even believe it.
Starting point is 00:06:39 She said, you know what, I made a mistake in the moment she asked me if she could have the job by herself, and I just said yes. And she goes, if I could take it back, you're right. You were the right person for the job, but I would look silly. if I turned around and, you know, axed her and gave you the job. And I will tell you, our relationship was never the same. Because you made it different? You were upset?
Starting point is 00:07:05 Well, because she admitted to making the mistake. I was stunned when I came back from summer vacation. When she does that, I mean, it doesn't change anything. No, my feeling was forget the friendship, which we had been. I'd helped her do a lot of things at the school because we were friends. but when she promoted the other girl and then literally a week later said I don't I made a mistake but it would look bad on me if I took it back ultimately she had to because the other girl couldn't do the job and I did get the job but it was like wow that's that's you're just worried about
Starting point is 00:07:39 your own reputation so to me it was never the same that's said that is so weird that we had that question because I never I never forgot it and you know I we got along okay but we weren't friends after that. Buddy, buddy. No, we were not. All right, then. Let's get into our fan questions for today. What do you say?
Starting point is 00:07:58 Kathy? All right. I'm going to start us off with the first one. And this one is from Anonymous. Hi, ladies. I need some advice. I've been with my boyfriend for two and a half years. And of course, everything is great, except for this one thing.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Oh, boy. I can't stand him when we travel together. I don't know what it is, but he just turns into this incredibly irritating person that I just can't stand. He takes forever to get through the airport. His bag is always overweight. He never takes the middle seat on planes. I don't blame him. And he honestly just annoys me.
Starting point is 00:08:41 It all came to a head when we went to Hawaii last month. The trip felt more like work and less like a vacation. is this bad for us? He brushes it off like it's no big deal or normal, but I'm starting to think that this isn't a good sign for us. Is this something we can get through? Thanks, lady. Well, first and foremost, it's not a good sign for you, darling.
Starting point is 00:09:11 For anonymous. Why do you say that? Because he's fine. He could care less. What I would suggest, you help, with the luggage. You get a scale. You weigh it before you go. Eliminate the possibilities of the problem. Well, yes. I mean, that that would help the overweight baggage issue. But I was going to, you know what came to my mind? Don't travel with him. If everything else is great,
Starting point is 00:09:40 don't travel with him. Wait a minute. She said his bag is overweight. He never takes the middle seat. Honey, you've got to back up a little bit. I wouldn't take the middle seat. either. No, I think what she's saying is if they, I mean, I don't know because I don't know anonymous, but I, and actually, Susan, I think you wrote this question. This reeks of you. I'm just saying. No, listen to it.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I don't know what it is, but he just turns into this incredible, irritating person that she can't stand. And here are the reasons. I'll say it again. He takes forever to get through the airport. What's a big deal? The bag is always overweight. You can fix that at home.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And he never takes the middle seat. You take the middle seat then. I think she's bitching for nothing. No, Susan, you're missing the point. She's always in the, the point, you got the first two right. Yeah. She's saying he'll never take the middle seat, which means she's always in the middle seat. That's what she's saying.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Okay, well, you flip a coin each time. That's what I'm saying. I would do bookends if somebody's in the middle. I was going to say, to hell with that. I'd book an eye on the window. Let the sucker in the middle. seat deal with them. Right. Me too. Fix that problem. But honestly, I think it doesn't bode well for you or badly for you guys. If there's something, I don't know, something tells me there's something else going on
Starting point is 00:11:03 here, but if there isn't, if it's just. He's so annoyed, Kathy. I know, but if it's so annoying. That's why I think there's something else going on. But if you're telling me anonymous that everything else is roses and champagne in your relationship, then one or two things. Way the bag before. before you go, alternate on the middle seat, or don't travel together. Yeah, well, two and a half years. I mean, they might be spending a life together. She said everything is great except when they travel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:35 So don't travel. Call us. We'll go with you. Susan will sit in the middle seat. Thank you for the question. I don't want to be harsh, but, you know, there's ways around this. Make a deal with every other seat. He refuses and you book an eye.
Starting point is 00:11:50 and he books the window and you don't even sit together. Hawaii's a long freaking trip. Yeah, when she says two and a half years, they've been together anonymous, when you say I'm starting to think this isn't a good sign for us, I would ask you, and I'm not a therapist, but I would say to you, maybe re-evaluate what you really think of your relationship.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Are there other issues at play here? And if they're hard. Or call Susan and me, we will go to Hawaii with you. And Susan will sit in the middle seat. And I will not take a middle seat. well you're out i will can only go first class yeah all right you won't see us until we get there however i will carry the luggage i'll run through the airport with the luggage for you so that won't
Starting point is 00:12:33 be a problem lies she lies you all right but thank you for your question let us know let us know about your next trip all right west west prop here from hood politics with prop podcasts you already know our get-down if you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here mandering all over the place, the turfs. And of course, the Epstein of it all.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Well, this week we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from the Spolitics podcast to keep it a whole century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman and on she pivots. I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken
Starting point is 00:13:49 big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten, Monica Patton, Elaine Welteroff. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes
Starting point is 00:14:10 and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, Now on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court and, of course, the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fan. see wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams' recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form?
Starting point is 00:15:09 To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, and I heart women's sports production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jemel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly?
Starting point is 00:15:41 Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. but we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high
Starting point is 00:16:03 because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America, as we know it, we'll be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't write songs. God write songs. I take dictation. I didn't even know you've been a pastor for over 10 years.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I think culture is any space that you live in that develops you. On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us podcast, I sat down with Warren Campbell, Grammy-winning producer, pastor, and music executive to talk about the beats, the business, legacy behind some of the biggest names in gospel, R&B, and hip-hop. This is like watching Michael Jackson talk about Thurley before it happened. Was there a particular moment where you realize just how instrumental music culture was to shaping all of our global ecosystem? I was eight years old, and the Motown 25 special came on.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And all the great Motown artists, Marvin, Stevie Wonder, Temptations, Diana Raw. From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music and the purpose. that drives it. Listen to Culture raises us on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. Our next question is from Lily. She writes, Hi, ladies. I'm really upset and I could use your help. I was just on a girl's trip to South Florida with five of my besties from college. The trip was fun for about five seconds and then just turned into a mess. On our first night, we ran into a
Starting point is 00:17:45 group of our guy friends that we knew were coming out here as well turns out two of my friends let's call them live and ellie like the same guy from that group well last night live was flirting with him like crazy and let's just say she was successful and ellie was crushed so crushed that she bought a return flight didn't tell anyone and left before any of us woke up oh dear god drama drama now live and ellie are having a nasty fallout it turns out that ellie confided in live aha confided and live about her crush but live never mentioned anything about liking that guy too how do we deal with this we're all planning to meet up and hash this out later this week and i'm nervous thanks ladies well susan wait they've already hashed it out so we don't know what to tell you
Starting point is 00:18:36 it's already happened so lily let us know that's how that's how we get out of this one i feel so bad, but the other one wasn't being honest. Well, you know, she could have said, oh, my God, I have a crush, too. Live could have. Live could have. Yes. Well. I feel, but I don't know that I would leave my trip.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Well, especially if you could get to sit in the middle seat on the way home, you wouldn't want to miss that opportunity. I think you're right, Susan. I think the fact that that Ellie confided and live and lived didn't say, Hey, I like them too. I mean, come on, when you met, when we met, when we met Frederique at the bar, did I or did I not come right up to you and say, Susan, I think he's hot. I've got something for him too. I didn't, guys, it was a joke.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I did not do that. But no, I think that. Before anything happens, like with this guy, if two girlfriends were talking about it, you'd have to say, oh, my God, I kind of have a crush on him too. But I won't if you want, you know. It's up to the guy, of course, but I wouldn't do it like that girl did it. Well, I mean, Ellie, Ellie told Liv. Yes. Liv didn't tell Ellie.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And Liv, Liv drew the lucky, you know, drew the lucky coin there. She got the guy. So I'm guessing Ellie was really embarrassed. And if they're asking me what I would do, I think you guys, and I know it's already probably already happened, but I would encourage you, Lily, and your friends to give Ellie a lot of grace. I am sure she
Starting point is 00:20:16 was angry, but more than that, I bet she felt humiliated and hurt and deceived. Did she tell all of them or just live? No, just live. Yeah. And then she ups and leaves. I mean, I because I think she was so hurt by her good friend.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah, well, I would have said something to her before I ruined my whole trip. Well, but that's the whole point. They're all on the trip together they're running to these guys how how's that going to work for her i don't know i might go home she never went out with them before she just has a crush on them i mean move on to the next one i'm guessing they're these are just out of college they're young and i'd be pissed off at my girlfriend i would well i feel sorry for you ellie i do i'm lily i think you got to tread gently with ellie i think she really was hurt and and i hope that you guys can repair the friendship because you know what
Starting point is 00:21:06 good friends are hard to find you have to be able to trust them and not throw them under the bus like this one kind of she didn't throw under the bus she just didn't jump the head and took what she wanted but oh you've never done that has that no no no I don't mean a guy I just mean in general you see something you want you go after it well yes absolutely but she wasn't being fair honest when she told her that she liked them that that's a hard one that's hard know how they're that if you're still friends. Let us know that meeting went and I hope you do preserve the friendships because like I said, good friends are hard to find.
Starting point is 00:21:43 All right. Now we're going to play some truth or drink, Kathy. My favorite. We'll switch off reading the question but will both answer or up to drink. Wait, can I just before you start? Before you start, I got to take a drink. Hold on. Okay, carry on.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Let's go. what's the worst gift you received recently? I got to be honest, you're going to laugh when I say this. Anytime I get a gift, even if I don't like it, I'm grateful for it. I am too. So I don't, I mean, I can't. If it's something that I won't use or not crazy about, I'm not, sometimes I won't re-gift a gift that I really don't care for.
Starting point is 00:22:30 But, but at the Christmas cookie exchange, Oh, God. You put it in the pile and somebody has to take it with a number. It's a white elephant. I put it in the attic until next year. I've done that. I've done that. I honestly can't think of a bad gift I've gotten.
Starting point is 00:22:50 All right, let's go to the next one. What's something you think I assume about you, but you think I'm dead wrong? Ooh. What's up you? What do you think? you think a lot of things sometimes that you talk to me about and I'll say you have no idea what's on the outside I don't know specific right now yeah I don't know it's truthfully you and I talk so much yeah we can't that's not fair to answer yeah we can because we hash it out
Starting point is 00:23:26 usually and yes we do we don't we don't assume if we assume it's for about 30 seconds We'll pass that one. Go ahead. What do you think people say about our friendship relationship when we're not around? Oh, God. Well, we read social media. Some people have us as lovers, which we're not. We are best friends.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Did you hear the one? I felt like a joke in the bar. Do you hear the one about when you came out about your relationship with Frederique? Yes. I don't have much time to go on social media these days, but I did go because I was so happy a few guys to look at your videos and stuff and somebody wrote wait Susan's with
Starting point is 00:24:07 I thought she and Kathy were together can I just tell you I was so itching to write back not even close but I hope you have a good friend like Susan and I didn't I just let it go but I think that's the thing people I think the two things about us think they assume that we're either a couple which we're not
Starting point is 00:24:25 or they don't think they think we've known each other from before the Golden Bachelor that we didn't meet on the Golden Bachelor which we did. I know. I know. We did. And we're still friends. And we're still friends.
Starting point is 00:24:34 At least for the next 10 minutes until this episode's over. All right. Whoa. What's the, oh, God, I know what you're going to say. What's the biggest thing you think I'm lying to myself about? I know what you're going to say. Bying to yourself? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 What do you think I lie to myself? Oh, I know what it is. Yeah. I know what you're going to say. Kathy sees weight when she looks in the mirror and she's so wrong. And all of you will agree with that. Except my neck. skinny you're right that is true but that is called body dysmorphia and a lot of people have
Starting point is 00:25:06 it so be nice to me you've had 20 years of therapy for it you're still not over it okay come on i just snorted wait wait um i i don't know what you lie to you oh i know what you lie to yourself about be careful Susan Susan is as you all know Susan is a neat nick incredible neat nick she lies to herself thinking
Starting point is 00:25:36 she can live in dirt have dirt around she'll say you know oh I you know I didn't vacuum the floor this week and and but it's okay whatever yeah exactly today but it's okay I'm good with it and then you know she does the next day
Starting point is 00:25:51 she's vacuuming it three times because she missed the day Am I right? You think you can deal with something not being clean. You can. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know our get-down.
Starting point is 00:26:08 If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your theo in them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here Mandarin all over the place The Turfs
Starting point is 00:26:27 And of course the Epstein of it all Well this week we decided to shoot our shot And boy did we pull up from the logo To see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us And the one and only Jamil Hill Pulled up from this politics podcast To keep it a whole century The American public is used to being entertained
Starting point is 00:26:45 We're a consumption society So what Trump figured out Is entertain them And they'll never question you Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweetie. Monica Patton. Elaine Welterah. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off. the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting
Starting point is 00:27:26 because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The U.S. Open is here.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends, chasing history, the predictions, well, we see a first-time winner, and the pressure. Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know. Plus, the stories and events off the court, and of course the honey deuses, the signature cocktail of the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I mean, listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about Icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids? Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an IHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment
Starting point is 00:28:38 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I'm Jamil, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast. politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be
Starting point is 00:29:16 willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Culture eats strategy for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I would love for you to share your breakdown on pivoting. We feel sometimes like we're leaving a part of us behind when we enter a new space, but we're just building. On a recent episode of Culture Raises Us, I was joined by Volisha Butterfield, Media Founder, Political Strategist, and Tech Powerhouse for a powerful conversation on storytelling, impact, and the intersections of culture and leadership. I am a free black woman who, you know, Worked really hard to be able to say that. I'd love for you to break down. Why was so important for you to do C? You can't win as something you didn't create.
Starting point is 00:30:24 From the Obama White House to Google to the Grammys, Malicia's Journey is a masterclass in shifting culture and using your voice to spark change. A very fake, capital-driven environment and society will have a lot of people tell half-truths. I'm telling you, I'm on the energy committee. Like, if the energy is not right, we're not doing it, whatever that it is. Listen to Culture Raises us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's your most ridiculous ick that would instantly turn you off someone? A ridiculous it? I know icks, but I don't know. What's a ridiculous sick?
Starting point is 00:31:06 I don't know. I mean, bad breath would turn me off. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Bad teeth. Yeah, I wouldn't even go. Like the next time I meet a guy, I want to, it's like being at the dentist. Stick out your tongue. Let me look down to it. How many teeth are you missing? All right. Move on.
Starting point is 00:31:25 All right. If you had to guess who in recent seasons from Bachelor Nation went on the respective show for the wrong reasons. I can't answer that one. You could or could not? Cannot. Oh, golly. I mean, it's hard to know because. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I don't know what are the reasons. All right. We got a drink, Susan. Drink. Hey, where's yours, dearie? I have water. It's early. Why, you're not having fun.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Who says I'm not having fun? Yeah. What's the last person? Who's the last person you stalked on Instagram? That's easy. You and Frederique. I wanted to see. That's not stalking you.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We can tell you firsthand. No, I'm saying that. I wanted to see all your, videos and you know. Is that stalking? I mean, yeah, if you go looking for something on Instagram. I think stalking means that you're secretly checking out everything they write. Like, you don't want anybody to know. Isn't that stalking? I guess, but I guess I don't stalk. All right. We may either. So I best we both have. I drink again. My glass runneth over, tippeth over.
Starting point is 00:32:40 all right who is the land no your turn okay um oh god if you had to get a tattoo today what would it be and why i can actually answer that but you go first what would you do i had i don't have any but maybe i won't have an answer so i can drink but go ahead but if i had to get a tattoo today it would be the word believe. I like that. I like that. I've always thought about it, but I'm scared to get one because I think it's going to hurt. Are you kidding me? Talk to Kyle. He'll hold your hand. My sons have sleeves. So does my son. You know what I would do? Well, what first came to mind for me was a butterfly because they're beautiful and they're free and they're they're so beautiful in nature. That's the first thing that came to me. Everybody was.
Starting point is 00:33:38 would assume we would want a rose, Kathy. Susan, let me say this lad, Claire. I do not want one rose. I want all the roses. I want the guy. I want the ring. I want it all. Okay. You can have the roses.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I want the guy. Okay. We're done with the roses. All right. What's the worst tattoo you've ever seen on someone? You know what? I've got to be honest. To each of tattoos, it's to each his own. Yeah, I know, but when I see some tattoos,
Starting point is 00:34:12 I find myself, like, staring at their arm. Like, I can't figure out what it is. It must mean something. I know, I know. Who is the most famous person that follows you on Instagram? To tell you the truth, I don't know who follows. I don't either. I don't look at my followers.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I don't know. I mean, I read stuff from them and I love them, but I've got some people with blue checkmarks that follow me, but I couldn't tell you. are. All right. How about the next one? What was the craziest reaction you got from someone when you revealed you would be going
Starting point is 00:34:46 on the Golden Bachelor for reality TV? The craziest reaction. Oh, God, TV's not ready for you, Susan. I think mine was my daughter because when... Mom, you're not doing this, are you? That's exactly what you said, Mom, you're not serious about doing this. I said, hell yeah, I'm serious. My daughter's not quite as outgoing as I am.
Starting point is 00:35:10 All right. What's one thing from your night one that you'll never, that you've never talked about? That you've never talked. Susan, you and I talk about everything. Oh, no, you got to drink. You got a drink. Take a sip. Again, my water.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I'm going to have to pee and I won't be able to. Well. Who would you want to see the next bachelor or bachelorette? Can we just say me? Yes. We'll say, Kathy, and that ends that. So we know who the next golden bachelors, but who would you like to see be the next golden bachelorette?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Nancy, if she doesn't fall in love, if she goes to paradise. I would be unbelievable. I think it would be perfect. I would love to see Nancy. Who would you like to see be the next bachelorette, off of grant season? Would you want Latia? Latia.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You would want Latia. Yeah, I think she's so sweet. But I like a lot of the girls. I know, right? That's a hard one. You know what? I always wanted Maria to be the Bachelorette from. I mean, I think that would be total chaos.
Starting point is 00:36:25 What? Yeah, I think it would be chaos. But they don't, I don't think. The clothes, her clothes would be amazing. Oh, my God, yes. Carrie would make sure that. No, I would. Clothes, if I were the Bachelorette, I'd have some clothes.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Let me tell you. You have clothes and you're not the Golden Bachelorette. You don't need an excuse to have clothes. No, I think from our season, I would love to see Nancy. I know. She was there so short. I think she needs to make a great Golden Bachelorette. She's elegant and sweet and lovely.
Starting point is 00:36:56 She deserves love. And then you know what? Maybe she's going to go on Paradise and get engaged. And I get to do another wedding. Well, maybe she won't get married. Maybe she'll just get engaged. Hey, what, you know, come on, Susan. Here's, if she were the Golden Bachelorette, she could bring us, oh, well, you're already taken.
Starting point is 00:37:14 She could bring me on and I could, you know, scout out all the guys and say, listen, if you don't pick this one, I want it. I'm available. I'm available. I'm just, though, out of Grant season, like, I don't know. They were the most beautiful. They were all. I think they were some of the best, honestly, of any season. Joe had some good ones too
Starting point is 00:37:35 All right I got a question for you This is a truth or drink And you can't buy And you can't drink water Last one, go for it All right It's going to be a good one
Starting point is 00:37:44 Have you ever Hooked up with someone You didn't know And do I need to explain to you What Hokeynaut means Because I had to about six months ago Wait you're talking sexy Right away I thought
Starting point is 00:37:57 Did I kiss anybody I didn't know You mean have sex with somebody I know Now I have not okay well you need to drink because you told the truth because you told the truth you drink on truth you know what at this point who cares all right what about this one what is by the way i can honestly say i have not either what's a text you sent an x and regretted it i haven't i mean i've sent text to x but never i have done many times susan do you let me just tell you something people and you don't even
Starting point is 00:38:33 drink that much. But my my advice to people who drink and have a breakup, turn off your phone before you pour the first drink. Really? Seriously. I usually delete their number and then give it to somebody and yeah, because I'm bad. I have to have the last word or I have to say how sorry I am for leaving you. Oh, yeah. Okay. This was a blast. This was a blast. Yes, it was. I said, thank you guys for listening. Be sure to follow us at Bachelor Happy Hour. We have new episodes coming out. We're really talking about important things like what is hooking up, what is gaslighting, what was the last, what is sex?
Starting point is 00:39:13 Wait, what is sex? So, you know, you don't want to miss any of these. I'm telling you make sure you submit your questions to us and you know how to do that, right? Go to Bachelornation.com slash Golden Hour or you can DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour. It's Golden Hour on the Iheart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, have a great week. Yes, thanks for joining us.
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