Bachelor Happy Hour - Sister Sesh with Lauren & Allison

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

Joe and Serena chat with sisters Lauren and Allison about all things “Bachelor” thus far! We kick off today’s episode with the deets on the sisters’ journey to the show and how they navigated that process together. We also get into Lauren’s tough time at the wedding group date as the girls tell us more about the loss of their father. Lauren then takes us through the process that ultimately led to her decision to leave on Night 2. Plus, the girls give us clarity on the question everyone is dying to know: What’s the tea behind their dating “overlap”? And, Allison teases what’s to come this season. Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to the new season of the Overcomper podcast on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with not one but two lovely sisters, Alison and Lauren. Hi.

Hello. Hi, guys. Thanks for having us. Thanks for coming. We got so comfortable in the first episode calling you guys older sister, younger sister, that we started messing up. We were like, wait, who's Lauren and Allison? We're like, oh, only the two people we've been talking about this whole episode.

But we have your names down pat. The audience has your names down pat. And we saw one of you go home this episode, which was so just shocking and heartbreaking for us. We were not ready for that at all. And we have lots to talk to you guys about today because I feel like you've been like the stars of the first episode. So there's lots to cover. Well, thank you. I know.

That was a great thought I went home to. That was a, okay. I actually want to ask you this. Just simple yes or no and then we'll get into it later in the episode. Lauren, do you regret going home the way you send yourself home? Because one of, we both have an opinion. Yes, your answer. Yeah. It has to be yes or no. So it's like yes and no. But right now I'll say yes. But at the same time, I think it was the time for me. So we'll get into that later. But okay. Okay. Okay. So I was right. So I was right. Well, she said both. So I was also right. Okay. So how did you guys, how did you guys get on the show? Did you both apply? Like, what was the deal there? So Lauren actually applied us both. One day, she, we, after our dad's passing, which we will get into, I'm sure later. We both were just in a weird spot in our lives. So we were like, we're having no luck in Philly. And we were like, why not do something a little bit out of our comfort zone and go on the Bachelor and meet somebody we might not never meet. And I guess having our applications come back to back. really made us like stand out. Yeah. So they ended up reaching out a like month later. We didn't really having luck in the dating world and I was like,

let's try something different. You know, it seems to work for other people, worked for you guys. So I was like, we'll give it a shot. And I just tried to sign her up with me because we didn't really fight about anything. So we didn't think it would be weird opposed to like what everybody else is getting a lot of hate comments about it. Really?

Yeah. Oh my God. There's like, this is weird. This is disturbing. I mean, it's definitely maybe not a first but not common that we see this. I think it has never I know. And we talked about it before so we knew like what we were coming into and how it would go down.

So you guys so you applied for yourself and then did you nominate your sister or did you also just apply for her as well? Yeah. Okay. No, I applied her. Like I used her email in her phone so it looked like she applied. Okay. And then did they reach out to you guys

separately like hey or was it like hey we're interested in both of you like did you almost like yeah it was like i think in february like after we passed and i was like you know what i was like drunk i was drinking a lot during then i was like i forgot about it and then in april we both got to call my sister's like i just felt like a like a voicemail from like a bachelor producer and i was like no way i forgot that even happened and then went through a whole interview process after that but yeah they did together did you interview together or like did you have separate interviews we did separate yeah i don't think we ever did any together isn't there one that we did together maybe like a phone

call or something. Yeah, like one of them, the phone call, but we're all like the Zoom meetings. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. So through this process, you're obviously like, you know, oh, like the odds that this happens are so crazy. Let's just see where it goes. And then you get further and further into the process and you obviously are like, maybe we get on this show. When do these convos start happening of like, what if one of us gets on? What if both of us get on? I think they like the idea of both of us so much that we never really thought about both just one of us getting it yeah but i mean she like kind of wasn't sure about it for a little bit so like she wanted to go on like if i went on but then i was like i want to go on anyways like i want to go on so we go on separate i will get

with that okay it was easier going to gather that but and did you have an inclination that there was interest in both of you or were you worried that they were just going to pick one or the other no they did keep bringing up like the sister thing they're like this dynamic is cool like we wanted you both on together so you wanted us and dating in Philly no luck oh my gosh is it terrible I've been to Philly

I've been to Philly I've been to Philly once but I was only there for like three days and I wasn't trying to date so it's not it here no one's just like to like settle down and I'm just at that age now that I can't just be like out here hinged date and a bunch

gotcha what's the cheese steak spot the real one, your favorite. I say Angelo's. Angelo's looks. Angelo's looks the best. It's really good. So if you come,

you have to try it. That's one with the pizza, right? They have pizza as well. Yes. That restaurant I actually really want to go to. Okay. So if you ever want to take the train.

It's like an hour from New York, right? What is it? An hour from New York? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. We'll go. All right.

So let's get back on track. Okay. Okay. so night one well actually no Joey's the Bachelor how do we feel about that great excited I knew I wanted him from the get

as soon as we watched it I was like yeah that was hard too because we both talked about which one we would want from charity season and we both said Joey from the get so it was hard yeah because we both wanted the same person though so yeah I guess okay so you're both happy that Joey's the Bachelor so is

everyone, to be honest. I feel like everyone audience-wise really, really wanted him to The Bachelor. And every contestant we've asked was like, yeah, I was hoping it was Joey. So you get to California. You're going to the Bachelor Mansion. We see you night one act like you guys don't know each other. Tell us about the conversation where you like, did you plan

that? Did you just kind of like spring that in the moment? What was the goal there? It was actually planned before we saw each other. But I think it was actually a good idea just because I would enjoy to see me as like a separate. I wanted to form his own, like, opinion on us before knowing that we're sisters. So then you don't feel as bad, like, sending someone home if you do. Because then it's just, like, a little awkward after that.

But it was mainly for the Joey thing. It wasn't, like, for the girls because that was, like, super anticlimatic, if you guys saw. But it was mainly for Joey. It was like, so I get to know us first or at least meet us before, like, forming that kind of opinion about sisters. So you kind of wanted it to be like, get your first impression of me, like, me, Allison, me, Lauren. and then we'll be like P.S. We're sisters. Yeah. Exactly. Okay. I love that. I think that's a good idea. I think that's smart. Yeah.

Okay. So, Alison, I'll ask you first. You step out of the limo, you meet Joey. How does it go? Is there chemistry there? Do you just black out? I was going to say, not going to lie, I blacked out right when I stepped out out of that limo. Nothing. Can't remember how it went. Once I got into the mansion is when I started to kind of process everything that happened but beforehand, yeah, don't remember anything from it. It is surreal. I mean, it's everyone, including

myself, like, you do black out. Like, you, once you get in the house, like, what the fuck did I just do? I said on my season, I said, what the fuck did I just do? And they, they erred it. Yeah, I know. I remember that. I was like, man. Well, on my season,

we were in at Bachelor Mansion because it was a COVID season. We were in Nemmo call in and it was stunning like where our night one was it was like this big chateau and Matt who was the bachelor was at the bottom and you walk up like the five 10 steps for like the limbo the limo set up is the same like you walk in the limo's like 10 steps you stand there you do your thing and then I had to walk up like 40 red carpeted stairs all the way up to the chateau and I just remember being like oh my god this walk is taking forever yeah that's like The one's not as long as like it looks on TV.

Like when you're there in the moment, I'm like, this is a lot shorter than I thought. Yeah. It's like the walk down to paradise. That one's a... The walk down to paradise is long and kind of scary. I mean, it's like steep steps and you're like walking through the jungle. Yeah, yeah, don't recommend that. Definitely flats or bare feet.

Okay, so Lauren, how about, how about you when you first meet Joey? I remember, like obviously you're a little nervous so you kind of blackout from that. I thought it was really fun, though. I remember, I think we had like a little bit of a connection. I felt good about it, which is obviously why I kind of, like, regret leaving. But it was just obviously not my time. Yeah, no, you guys both had really cute entrances. Lauren yours was memorable because you crushed a shotgun.

So obviously that's kind of going to stand out in the mind. Yeah, and I think regardless of you guys, like, because you were sisters, it was kind of like a shoe in that you both were going to get a rose the first day. But I think you guys probably would have both gotten a rose regardless, sisters are not sisters. things. Yeah. Yeah. Just like based off of your, your entrances. No, for sure. I, I don't, we weren't doubting if either of you were going to get a rose. Yeah. I thought definitely there was something with both of you in like different ways. Okay. So then, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what we do. You know, we just build people up on this.

So you guys, so you guys eventually open up to all the women like, hey, we're sisters. Was it kind of like. Was it awkward? Was it obvious? Was it obvious? like we thought so. No one cared at all. As you saw him how it aired, yeah, nobody cared. We were just standing up there awkwardly after that. We just did like a high five. We're like, all right, let's just get back to the party.

I feel like there's no way, though. Like, you guys did a good job. Like, there's no way to not make that awkward. Yeah. Like everyone's like, oh, okay. Anyway. We're like, oh, yeah, maybe. Like, all right, we're going to go to the bar.

So then who are, who are your, girls in the house thus far that you're closest with? Maria. Maria looks like she could be your third sister. Yeah. We actually got that. There was like one time

there's a shot of like the three of you sitting and she's in the middle and I was like whoa this is kind of trippy all three of you look really similar. Yeah, it's the black hair for sure. But yeah, this one just her pretty much. Okay, nice. So night one goes, you're at the row ceremony. Allison, you get the first rose.

Lauren, you get the last rose. Awesome. Joe really enjoyed this because he was like, I feel like they both have good personalities. And now that I know that they're sisters, I feel like it would be so fun to mess with them in this way. Like he's like, I feel like he did this on purpose just to like poke fun.

You could see like when he gave Lauren, when he gave you the last rose, you could, like that was the first. Yeah. I was like you see him genuinely happy. He knew he'd get a reaction from Lauren. Me, maybe we're not so much, but Lauren for sure. Were you worried that you were going to get sent home that night?

Yeah, honestly, yes. Like for a little about maybe I'll be in the middle. And then he just kept doing that thing where they like look and I'm like, none of these are my name. What is going on? Yeah. But then, thank God. But I was like, don't ever do that again. Getting the last rose.

Yeah, that's. I was just supposed to be like, did you ever get the last rose? But you didn't ever get a rose? But you didn't ever get a rose. I didn't get it. And you look around and you see who else is left too. And you're like, well, they said, great. Like, your conversation went well and you're great.

Like, I probably am going home. And it's so hard to gauge because everyone thinks their conversation went great. Like, very rarely does someone's conversation. Yeah, everyone's like, oh my God, it went so well. We had such a great conversation. Like, so you can't even be like, okay, I know that those three girls. It didn't. It's not working out.

Yeah. Who is the most confident? We've talked about confidence a lot on this. so far this season. But who is the most confident woman night one that you felt? I would say Maria.

Yeah, go Maria. He just like knows who she is. She came out of her limo. You can just tell the confidence like radiates off of her. So what she's got to say. I mean, she radiates confidence. Yes.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That makes that makes sense. That checks out. Okay. So now we're into week two. So Lauren,

you were on the bridal date and then Allison, you were on the boot camp date. No. Oh. Why do I think Allison It was also on the proud date. I wish you were on a date.

I kind of wish I was too. I could be the group. I was going to say, did you guys want to be on the date together that week? Before you knew what it was, before you knew what it was? I would say no, because we still wanted to, like,

be our own individual person. So I think having us both there and our competitive side coming out probably wouldn't be the best. Okay, I just wanted in my own time. I don't want to be with you. Yeah, that makes sense. But then being on the date, Lauren,

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because she's talking about her dad and you know her dad in connection to the wedding and you open up to the girls in the limo about the fact that you and alison just lost your father somewhat recently. Was that something you were anticipating opening up about that early on? Or was that just kind of triggered by the situation in the moment? Yeah, not at all because I feel like I'm big on like not trauma dumping and especially since like I don't know him yet. I'm not going to like throw on you like my dad passed last year.

But then being in like the wedding dress and then Ray is saying that, I think it just like triggered me because like, I don't know, grief is like such a weird thing. Like some days you'll think about it and like smile and some days you think about it and you just want to cry. And it's like one of those days that just being in that wedding dress sent me off. I was like, great. And I couldn't get out of it. Yeah. How was that then for the rest of the day? Because we don't really see you that much. I mean, you know, you're there, obviously. We know that you're participating in the activities, but we don't see you much during the day portion. How are you feeling? We see, you know, you and Maria have kind of a conversation.

Again, she's comforting you. But how, like, going into it, what are you thinking that day? I didn't think it was going to be that way. Honestly, I was. like trying to have fun with it and like trying to talk myself out of it but like my personality like one thing is like when i'm in a bad mood like i can't get myself out of it and it just starts to spiral and i kept trying to like have fun with it and i was like this is just going to project on my time with him like i'm in a bad mood and then i'm going to start like i'm just not going to have as much fun with the conversation like you're out of wedding you're supposed to be the happiest day of your life you're supposed to be like picturing this in the future and then i'm sitting there like

with an attitude so like i was like i just don't want to talk to him i'll try to do that later when i like to mentally, like, prepare myself. Yeah, no, that totally makes sense. I feel like I would also be like, I want, and he's, it's new. Like, it's a new relationship. Like, I feel like you still want to put like your best foot forward. You want it to feel like fun and flirty. And you're probably just like, I'm not feeling like happy or sexy right now.

Like, I just kind of want to be by myself. Yeah, especially that dress. Guys, that was not the dress for me. I was like, I hate this dress. But it was like one of the only ones left. I was like, I'm just not like a poopy dress kind of girl. I would have preferred a nice little small one. I was just, it was just, I didn't feel myself at all.

Totally. So then after, after that, after that date, did you as sisters get a chance to talk? You got home so late. I remember she woke me up from it and she was definitely still distraught from it kind of recapping what happened. Yeah. Yeah. So I heard a little bit about it, but not much. until probably like the next day.

Yeah. How was your time with Joey at the cocktail party telling him more about what you've been through? Like it was good. He's very receptive of it. But I hate crying for people. I was like, really nursing to just like start crying.

I was like, God, I was not like ready to like start fucking sobbing to you right now. Like if there's something to cry about like this is definitely on the list. Like you guys have been through a lot. Before you keep going, Alison, are you the same or? Oh, about what?

Sorry. Just about, like, crying in front of people. Oh, yeah. I don't cry often. I don't show much emotion like that. This whole season is probably the most I've cried in years. Okay. That whole episode is most I've cried in front.

Yeah. Like, my family's never really even seen me cry, so they'll be in for it. Wow. The show, like, brings it out in you. It does that. But we were actually saying, and we weren't saying this really in regards to you, Lauren, and your story. But a lot of people in these first two episodes have been, been crying and like opening up a lot really early on.

Is there something about Joey that you think is like creating this environment of like safe space or is he like really asking for you guys to be vulnerable? We're just looking for like a little more insight. He's made you really comfortable, I think. So it's like I think people just wanted to share things with him and like form that connection and then everyone like, I don't know if people always feel like, I know how you said like people come back and like my conversation like great. But like this time it was like everyone felt amazing about it.

they would come back and be like, wow, I'm definitely getting a rose. And then you're like, oh, my God. So, and someone's like, now I need to share something where he wants to keep me around. So it's just like stressful, but like everyone was doing that. But he doesn't make him comfortable. I agree. I think his eye contact and then he also would like hold your hand. So I feel like all of those factors together just made you feel really comfortable in front of him

and made it feel like you knew him for way longer than you really did. Gotcha. Yeah. I can see that. That totally makes sense. And that's a good quality as a bachelor, you know, especially when like, you know, you're sharing something so deeply personal with him that you maybe wouldn't typically share on like a first or second date, but you know you're going into it and he's going to like be receptive and make you feel

comfortable. Okay. So then going into group date number two, Allison, where is, I guess where's your head going into that date? Like, how are you feeling? Yeah. I mean, I was super excited. I was nervous. I wasn't going to get on the second group date.

So I was happy what my name was called. Definitely wasn't expecting a boot camp and to be like on the ground, doing push. I was like, I wasn't ready. It was fun. It was fun. I was in like a little tennis outfit. I thought we were doing something more on the tennis aspect. So I wasn't prepared, but it definitely was a lot of fun. I forgot you were tennis. I know. You've ever been saying it's got to be tennis. Like you guys are playing tennis somehow. And I was like, okay. That's so funny. Because I think it was, Jen was in like a full tennis skirt. Like someone was wearing a skirt and I was like, God damn, they're in the mud. Not our best outfit choice. So that on that group date. I also would have thought it was tennis if it was like. Yeah.

It's something like love. And you're like, oh, that's a tennis term. Like that makes so much sense. And he's a 10th. They're going to be doing that. They're going to be doing that this entire season. Everyone was waiting for the tennis day. Same on Golden Bachelor.

Everyone was waiting for the pickle ball day. Yeah. We're big on rackets these days in the bachelor. Pardon? We're big on rackets. Racquet sports. Oh, yeah. Sure.

Yeah. We got a lot of rackets. towards in this franchise. Okay, so on that, on that group date, anything like anything with Joey, anything go down? I've never been on a group date. It seemed pretty tame. It seemed fun. It didn't seem like there was like a ton of drama until, well, not drama, but I mean, you find out that you're not going to get after party. Yeah, not having that time at the end, definitely was a bummer. And then having to have only one person go from the two teams. It's definitely hard to watch. Everybody needs that time. So, I mean, it was hard. It was hard. Yeah.

yeah that that is a bummer i felt for you guys especially that early on to be giving up and like the cocktail parties are really when you get the quality time because the daytime days when you're doing activity it's like you're banking on those like intimate conversations later on yeah were you surprised that it was edwina or were you kind of expecting that i was expecting it because i felt like she was MVP of the paintball challenge she laid it all out there like she did all in so i respected her for that and i had a really good feeling she was going to be the one to go Yeah, she crushed it. I think I literally wrote like MVP Edwina down in my nose. She was like absolutely crushing it.

What was your thought process when Evelyn jumped over the table? What did everyone do? On the wedding date. On the wedding day. Really everyone like froze up. We're like, what just happened? And like looking back at it now, like I probably should have gave her my seat, but I was made like get off me and this is my seat. But now I'm like, I really should give it to you. Like that was pretty cool.

I didn't realize it was you that she jumped on. Yeah, like in my lap. Oh my God. I'm actually kind of surprised she didn't injure herself in any way doing that. I broke the fault, literally. But she broke like the whole play setting that was in front of me that like shattered. Yeah, no, I heard it. Like you would hear it when she lands.

It's like a, it's like a crash sound. Yeah, I'm surprised you neither. Maybe the dress. The dress probably breaks that a little bit. Yeah, a lot of tool helps. That was crazy. I was so not expecting that. Okay, so now where are we?

We're back at the house. We are back at the house. Roe Ceremony Time. let's chit-chat about the drama before Lauren went home which is between Maria and it's so is it like Maria against Sydney

and Medina at this point are those kind of the sides yeah kind of in a way yeah I feel like yeah more Maria and Sydney I felt like Medina and Sydney kind of made up and they were okay that was after though yeah

like a start then yeah all three okay what went down yeah tell us what went down Because it seems like, it seems like Medina said, I feel old. And then Maria basically said like, we're at the same age. I'm old too. It's okay. Don't worry about it.

Yeah. She's trying to make her feel better. But then Sidney overheard that and was like, she's talking shit. I got to go tell her. And then went and told Medina like, Maria was distancing her feelings, blah, blah. So then Medina was like, oh, my God, they're clapping. And then they end up making up. So the whole beef now is just Sydney inserting herself.

Okay. So it was like, Maria versus Medina, but now it's really Sydney versus Maria. Yes. Okay. And we're getting down to what the real issue is. Yeah, there's definitely, I feel like there's got to be some layers to this because just like, do Sydney and Maria get along before this happens? It literally came out of nowhere. It was so weird.

No. Like, they were fine. I don't know if it's just Maria's like confidence and stuff that some people get like a little jealous of, but it came out of nowhere. And then what's the tone and the house? Are people kind of like, no, we see Sidney's side, no, we see Maria's side, or is everyone just kind of staying out of it? Yeah, I feel like everyone's like, at that point everyone's like, I don't want to be a part of this at all. Yeah. Well, it feels like it got big really quickly.

Like it was like a spark that turned into a flame in like a matter of hours out of nothing. Yeah, it blew up. Like, I literally don't know where it's Sembron. That was the weirdest fight. It wasn't even like an important fight either. Yeah, it was, it just seemed really unnecessary. Yeah, it was. it was yeah everything's unnecessary to a point yeah but i'm okay with it because it was entertaining

to watch it and i feel like it's going to continue next week so we will see how that unfolds so Lauren you decide in your head that you are going to go home you're like fuck this shit nothing's going on my way i'm pissed off i was vulnerable i didn't like my dress i don't get the right amount of time i'm fucking pissed and now i want to go home Do you two have a conversation like Allison? Do you know she's going to go? We did. Kind of.

On the outside driveway. We both came out and Laram was kind of explaining everything. And she was like, I think I'm going to go home. It was after-roast ceremony. Well, first you came back in here. Like, my talk went so well. I'm feeling so great. And I was like, oh, okay.

I mean, we see each other everything. So I was like, it went good. Like, I didn't know she was feeling some time of the day. And I was like, just don't know anything right now, some stress. So she gave me a little attitude. And then later. we did end up talking about it in the driveway. And she was like, I just don't know if I can be here anymore.

Just everything she's been through that whole week kind of brought her down. She couldn't get out of that headspace. So after that, I knew she was definitely planning on eliminating herself. And are you okay with it? Like, do you think this is beneficial to you? Or are you also like, this is my best friend? It's my sister. I don't want her to leave.

I was both ways. So I was definitely super sad. I'm like, this is my sister, my support system. in here. It's hard enough going on the ex-experience alone. So having her there for me was definitely a bonus. But at the same time, having her leave made me able to kind of just focus on my relationship with Joey. Yeah. I feel like having your sister there is like a double, not a double-edged store, but there's like pros and cons to it. For sure. Okay, Lauren, we were, we were surprised. Like, we did not expect you to be leaving. And then we thought you might change your mind.

maybe this was just like wishful thinking on our part but when we were like hey Joey's going to go over like maybe she'll change her mind like maybe she's just in this funk did you consider change your mind at any point when he came over or were you like set in your decision like kind of like I had already made such like a scene about it

and like I said like when I'm in a bad mood I'm in a bad mood like looking back we can hide it right now and I could have handled all that better I could have done that a little different like I wasn't as mentally prepared as I thought I was for it but then when they came over No one is, no one is, by the way. Yeah, I thought that I was going to breeze through this shit.

Like, I was like, yeah, you're like, I'm mentally, I'm tough. I can, I've been through so much this show. Are you kidding me? Yeah, literally, I was the second episode. I'm like, done. But yeah, he comes over and I'm like, all right, he's like, sit down. So I was like, okay, like, maybe I will say. And then when they brought out the cake and it wasn't it, like, I think that's just set me off again.

And I was like, forget it. I'm leaving. I just need to leave. Like, I just need to, like, mentally heal a little more. I don't know if I'm, like, fully. through the whole grieving process, but if I stayed any longer, I don't know how much worse it would be for me, honestly. That's how I was in the second episode. Do you think that was the biggest contributor was, you know, the wedding day and just still grieving the loss of your

father? Or do you think there was something else that was the driving force of you leaving? That and like, like I said, like being mentally prepared for. Like I'm not, you're supposed to date one person so you're not used to competing with like a bunch of people and just hearing the conversations here and here and everyone feels good. Like you start to like overthink that. And then you're like, is mine even good? Like, are we even having like in-depth conversations? And I just got in my head and I was like, maybe this isn't for me right now.

I need to be. Yeah. So I was like, it is time for me to go. It wasn't meant to be. And I feel like you were like, from what we saw, it seemed like you were getting like, you were like the last person to talk to him multiple times. You weren't getting a ton of time. Like there was a lot of things that were like contributing to you not feeling

overly confident. like it's way easier when you're like the first one to talk to him and you get like a solid 10 to 15 minutes and then it's like okay I'm good whereas when you have to sit there like I remember one girl on my season um like week two or three was like almost everyone had talked to him there was like three or four people left and someone was like have you talked to him yet she's like if one more person asks me I'm going to lose my mind because no I still haven't talked to him and now I'm getting pissed off because she's like I feel like all the attentions on me in this negative way and I'm freaking out. And I feel like when you have like you're already like struggling with grief and being vulnerable with him on that group date. And now you have all of these layers on top of it of just like the struggles of being in this environment. Like that is so much to be dealing with.

It is. Yep. That's literally exactly how I felt. And then everyone's like, no, it's fine. There's like three girls that haven't gone. I'm like, they all have roses already. Like I'm the only one. They have a rose.

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on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah. I get it. I mean, I gave, I mean, I didn't get a rose. I don't know. I don't know if anything would have changed that. But mentally, night one, I after like my first conversation with her, I gave up. I was like, I sound like an idiot. I hate this. I hate the way I look. I hate everything about the situation. I want, I'm going home. Like, it's done for me. And if I. And if I. If she would have given me a rose, I probably would have spiraled episode two exactly how you did and just been like, I'm out, like, fuck this. Give me a chocolate cake and they would have brought me a vanilla one. I would have threw it too. Do you think if Joey would have been a little more aggressive in trying to keep you around, you would have stayed?

Honestly, maybe. It's like looking back, I still think I was meant to go. Like, when I came home, I focused on like my mental so much more. I was like, I needed to leave. But it's like, maybe if you push harder, I would have stayed. But then, like I said, I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. It was just my time to go. So I'm glad you didn't.

Did you feel like relief when you left? Yeah, I did. I mean, it was a little going back to the hotel and so you're just sitting there with your thoughts. It's a little. But. Dark. Yeah. After that day, I got used to.

And I was like, it was definitely best for me to go. Okay. And then, Allison, what were your, so obviously, like, you're sad. Your sister's gone. what were kind of your initial, like, thoughts of like, okay, like, you know, what does my journey look like moving forward without Lauren? Did you consider, like, leaving at any point? Like, were you like, I don't want to do this without her? Like, what's going through your head now that she's officially left? Yeah. So, I mean, there's definitely points where, I mean, yeah, I'm like that

cool. Now it's just me and him. This is great. But then there's also the side where I'm like, dang, like, I don't have that one person I'm closest to here who I can like talk through things with. But then sometimes I feel like when we talk through things, kind of made more of a competition between us because I would say things that maybe I shouldn't have with her, which probably did she spiral. Oh my God, it was so, so well. When you knew I was waiting for my time, I was waiting that long, like, I feel so good.

I was trying to just, like, talk to her, like, as I would, any friend. She's, like, all, like, dancing. I would not date. You're good. You came back, like, with a pep in yourself. I was like, no. So I think it made it easier in the end. There were definitely points throughout where I was like, can I do this alone?

Like, will I be able to? but at the end I was like, no, I definitely know I'm going to stay. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so something we're going to have to ask you about because it gets mentioned in this episode, the over-dating a guy that overlapped at one point. We messed that up. Yeah. Okay, so clear the air.

Wrong word. You need to clarify because you clarified it in episode two, and I just want to make sure everyone listening understands that you were literally dating the same guy at the same time. Please, yeah. No, yeah. Yeah, so we were, I, we weren't in like the same state for a lot. She went to University of Delaware and met a guy. I was like dating him in college for a little bit.

Then I moved to Philadelphia. I met the same guy. Weirder on his part, to be honest, to not like disclose that. Also, you guys didn't know that. And then I was like, oh my God, I've been talking to this guy. He's really great. And I showed a picture and she was like, oh, my God. I was dating him in UD.

And I was like, that's really effing weird. Wait, so how long did you date him, Allison? It wasn't long, not like full dating. Like we went on dates. Okay. But like you went on a few dates. Yes, exactly. So it was like three maybe. Okay.

But we had on his part to like go after my sister after, especially like the last name and we look alike. It's hard not to know. He knew. He knew. Yeah. He knew for sure. That's so weird. That's so weird. Wait, Lauren, how long were you talking to him for? It wasn't that long maybe a couple months. Oh, no. That's like, oh. We got married after 19 days.

So my point. My reaction comes from like it's not like you were talking for like week and it was like he just hadn't disclosed it yet it was like he fully knew and decided like I won't be saying anything about this yeah and I just hadn't a chance to talk to her because she was like on vacation during that time so she was like gone then she came back and I was like oh my god this what I've been up to and then she was like oh I was up to that once too yeah like wait so how did you confront him about it how did this play out yeah I just texted him I went like I was like this is really eff and weird like you I even know you talked to my sister why and you told me that and then just literally blocked him and goes to him and I was like did he respond

But did he respond? I don't know if he did because I blocked him. Oh, you blocked him immediately. You had to reach out on Instagram and blocked him there too. I was just like, no. We're done. We're coming off after that. Like, don't even try to talk to me.

Maybe he thought you knew. No, because he knew I was talking about her. Like, I'd be like, she's on vacation right now. She's here like, look where she's at. Like, you'd be like, oh, right. Yeah, you think you'd say something. No, yeah. And like, the way you were talking about her was probably, he would have been able to put together,

like, she doesn't realize that, like, I know who this is. Yeah, yeah. That is crazy. Did he? And who ended it between you two else and did it, did it just like fizzle out? Yeah, it's like one of those things when you're in college and that you just kind of go your separate ways. Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm so busy. Like, see you maybe next year.

Yeah, wow. Yeah, that's weird. Okay, I'm glad we clarified that because you guys, you guys kept saying overlap. We had to like, I think that was the, you had a word. It was overlap. And what overlap was the word. Okay, yeah. It was like the words.

Yes. The overlap. I guess I don't know why that was what word we chose, but not. I understand why I mix up my words every day. No, I understand why you said it. It's like we had one person that like overlapped in our dating list. Like in our lives. But not at the same time.

But it made it so like it was the same time. And I was like, how have they not expanded on this? We got to weird looks with that one. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Okay. So we have a lot left in the season, obviously, a lot to come.

Allison, we don't know how long or short your journey is. You don't know what happens with you, but we know you're there next week. So can you give us like maybe a teaser for what we can expect the rest of the season without giving anything away? You know, I can't say much, but let's just say there are definitely a lot of fun dates, a lot more drama to come. It's weird dates. Yeah. And you'll definitely just have to tune in and see. for the rest.

A lot more time. I know. All right, Allison, with that with that in mind, keep that same mentality here. Would either of you,

if you're not with Joey, go. Well, we know, Lauren, you're not with it. That's why I said, Alison,

that's why I said, Alison, keep the same mentality here. Would either of you go on Paradise? So, for me, it's more of like a

game time decision, I feel like. like if I feel mentally there because obviously I was like just going out doing my thing before all this show I think I would need to like more mentally prepare for like what's coming because I don't think I did that this season

so if I was in a good spot and I feel like I've healed and I'm more in like a good mental space I think I would but I think I'd have to like address that at that time Allison or maybe I'll find a man well there's a chief I couldn't end up with Joey so

true but if you don't let's just say you're not like if I don't then I could potentially see myself going to paradise. I mean, me and more, I'm both there, would be indreaching. Would you go, that's what I'm saying, would you go, would you go, would you go together? Is that fine? I would. If you would, I mean, I definitely would. I'll like my moment. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I mean, there's, there's, there's, you don't have to, you don't have to overlap this time.

Actually, that's even better. Yeah. I think it's better. I would definitely go there. Sorry, I didn't even feel that. Everyone. Do you, other than your one overlap, do you tend to go for the same guys? Yes, and no. I think, like, sometimes, like, looks so I as we go for, like, darker. Actually, we use blondes. Yeah, I really have a type. Yeah, I don't know if there's really, like, a type we just, we're so different that we feel like our type wouldn't be the same anyways.

Like, we wouldn't be somebody's type. Yeah. That makes sense. Not saying that right. No. Like, us going on the show also, like, originally when we went on the show, we were like, Joey's not going to like both of us. We're so different.

Oh, you're saying, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I think you were just saying, like, neither of you were anyone's type. No, no, no, no, we're both going to be somebody. Give yourself more credit than that. No, I get what you're saying.

Like, if, if Joey's really into Allison, he's not likely to be, like, really into you also or vice versa, because you guys are very different personality. It's like, looks wise, you're kind of this, like, you look very similar, but, like, personalities, you're bringing different things to the table. Yes. Gotcha. All right. All right.

We're going to play a game before we let you guys go, rapid fire. Okay. I think it's actually. Is it rapid fire? It is, but it's like the newlyweds game, rapid fire. so we'll ask like a who's more likely to and like you guys can both answer you want to know yeah okay um who wants to answer first no they'll answer at the same time and they'll answer one of them have you have you look look I'll show you so it's like who's like who's messier

oh okay okay okay okay yeah yeah I got it okay oh yeah all right good luck okay thank thank you I told you I was off today you um all right who's more dramatic Lauren. Easy. Yeah. Who's most likely to take the others closed without asking? Allison, definitely me. These are easy. These are easy. Who takes longer to get ready? Maybe. You. You.

Around the same. Are you ready like 20 minutes before you usually? For our listeners, say a name. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Who's more high maintenance? Lauren, me. Who got in trouble more as kids?

Me. Lauren. Yeah. I would have. Who's the better driver? Me. Definitely. Who's the funniest? I'm going to go ahead and see me. I'll take this one.

She has her moment. Lauren. Lauren. Okay. Who's the best dressed? Allison. Where's your clothes? Who's the best cook? Actually, true.

Well, not always come. Yeah. Who's the best cook? Allison. Who's more of the daredevil? Me. Lauren. Who's most likely to get into a fight?

One. Who's the messiest? Alice in me. Who's most likely to be a heartbreaker? Hmm. Can we tie for that one? Yeah. Yeah.

Who's most likely to fall in love fast? Me, easy. All right. Oh, maybe both of us for that one. You tie on that one, too. Yeah. Okay. Tie all around.

Okay. I feel like, like, if we're going to have, so I have a sister too. We're like two and a half years age difference, like very similar to you guys. And I feel like you guys like need to switch ages to fit like the stereotype for older sister, younger sister. Do you know what I mean? Like Allison fits all the stereotypes for being the older sister and Lauren, you're fitting the stereotypes for being younger sister. Well, that's how my brother and I are too. I know you guys are also flipped.

Yeah. People get these older usually anyways. Every time. They always guess me. Really? Yeah. Well, thank you. Well, thank you so much for coming on today, guys.

I'm really sad, Lauren, to see you go. I hope that you're in paradise very much so. You were very fun and entertaining to watch. And we hope that if you're not in paradise, it's because you found love. And Allison, we're excited to keep watching you on this journey. I'm excited to see more of your time with Joey, because I feel like we've seen a lot of your time with Lauren. So we're excited to kind of zoom in on your relationship and all of us to come this season.

Yeah, you took my exit. Sorry. Joe says ditto I say the same one thing I will say is now that I watch more reality TV because lately I've been watching reality TV when like one of your favorite people leave you're like god damn

you're fucking up my show Lauren you fucked up my show episode two how dare you you know what she had good reason to go yeah if it's not for you you got to get out of there okay thank you guys thank you guys so much for coming on Happy Hour thank you for having us

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