Bachelor Happy Hour - Speedos in the Snow with Charity & Dotun!

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Today on Happy Hour we're hanging with Charity, Dotun, and David's Bridal from the iHeart Music Awards for a special bonus episode! We're getting into Charity's friendship with Litia, thoughts on Gran...t's season, and so much more! Who would they like to see as the next Bachelorette? Plus, we get to hear more deets about Charity and Dotun's journey; what were Fantasy Suites like for them? Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host to the Sports and Politics podcast, Spolitics. And on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately
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Starting point is 00:00:37 Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Bet Your Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here with the IHeart Music Awards and David's Bridle, who are sponsoring this podcast, and we're so grateful to them.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Thank you. Thank you for finishing my sentence. And we are here with our favorites, Dotten and Charity. Hello. We're not your favorites, don't lie. You're one of our favorites. I feel like we've had this conversation.
Starting point is 00:00:58 No, you'll say this every time. We introduce every couple the same. Out of all the couples, you guys have been on this podcast the most. Probably. Really? Maybe. Yeah. That's actually really shocking.
Starting point is 00:01:09 How does that make you feel? I feel a certain way. A little bit. Top of the tier. Top tier. Great is with Daddy ABC. How did you feel podcasting with me, Charity? I loved it.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I was kind of nervous. I didn't tell you that before. I was like, I just don't know how this is going to go. Oh, really? He said you did a great job. Oh, thank you. No, it's just like. Like, it's Joe.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I don't really know what that's supposed to mean. No, not in a bad way, but I was like, I just know Joe's like humor. Like I was like recommending Dot to do it. I was like that would have been so funny, but probably too chaotic. But I actually had a great time and it did go good. Yeah, you were great. We had all the four guys on, including you. It was chaotic.
Starting point is 00:01:49 It got chaotic for a minute. So we have fantasy suites tonight. Yep. Well, last night. We're recording this Monday, but this is coming out on Tuesday. Okay, who was up first? It was Zoe then Julie, no, Juliana, then Zoe, then Latia.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Okay, now I have a question. Where would you want to be placed for fantasy suites? Do you want to go first or do you want to go last? I would love to be in the middle. You want to be in the middle. Do you think that's the best spot? I don't want to be first because I feel like that's too much pressure and like with all things considering.
Starting point is 00:02:29 and then last is like, you just don't want to go last. No, you don't, yeah. But I always say say the best for last. When did Dotten go? What place for you? Say the best last. Which I ended up like figured because obviously they don't tell us. So you never know.
Starting point is 00:02:41 But I ended up figuring out because it was so long between the time. I was like there must be like a couple other people. Right. They won't tell you like, hey, you're going last. It'll just be like you show up and maybe your first, maybe you're last. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every single day. HomeTowns is kind of the same. he was last that's why I thought he wasn't going to he was last for hometowns too I was like you're like why don't you like me I was like can he go first like hello no I actually appreciated going last I would want to go last that's that's that's why middle and last is good but I like
Starting point is 00:03:13 last because I mean lasting impression first and foremost you get to be the last one to really yeah right yeah and you don't have to sit on your I think first is the worst spot not me saying middle middle middle is good but I feel like first is the worst because then you have you have a great time and then you have to sit on it all week. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. My mind would like not let me do that. And the only reason why I think anybody would even like first is because, you know, like the fantasies.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah, you're like, let me get this time before in your house. Like, yeah, I don't want any soft, a few seconds, you know. That's crazy. Come on now. It's part of the show. You're going to pretend like it's not. No, I know. It's every season.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Well, I only had two fantasy series. Well, did you pick your order? No. Okay. See, I would prefer to go. I wanted him first. Did you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I would prefer to go last because of what Juliana said in this episode of like everything went really great but like now two other people are going and like how's like this could have been amazing but now it could be like amazing times too with the next person and then I'm fucked which is what Serena was saying is like you have to sit
Starting point is 00:04:17 on your thoughts of like whether it went good or even if it went bad it's like now I have all this time in this window before I see him again that sucks Okay, go ahead No, I was going to say I felt like going last I felt very comfortable somewhat
Starting point is 00:04:31 In that rose ceremony Oh, because it was just Yeah, you just can more or less predict Sort of how things went Yeah And you can read the other Yeah You'll get a vibe if you're probably more home
Starting point is 00:04:43 I feel like you can get more of a vibe At the end of the week Because if you guys are in a really good place You're gonna know And if the other two dates have gone well And you might be on the choppy block You're gonna know Yeah, she'll be a little like
Starting point is 00:04:54 She has all the information Go off script really kind of Wait, how did you know what my vibe was? Sorry, I don't think we ever talked about this. Your vibe? Yeah, at the Rose ceremony, you just said you kind of saw the vibe. No, no, no, this is good because I want to get real with this because I have another question for you too. No, like, not like yours.
Starting point is 00:05:12 But like, here's what my thought process is, if I was going home, there's no way you would have had much energy, you would not have been like excited. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You'd be definitely like laid down, unless you're just like a horrible person, you'd be laying down like the carpet for. you know this person I'm going to send them home a hard chance yeah yeah yeah you'd be like cushioning the blow yes exactly yeah yeah yeah yeah say things like you know we've had a really good time you know like we hear that yeah yeah yeah exactly so like none of that was there we were like smiling was like her first date you know and I knew you were tired and so even despite that so that's
Starting point is 00:05:46 why I was like somewhat comfortable okay yeah okay so let's get real cameras are cameras are off you're not recorded did you ask her like hey Is it me? Did you ask that question? No, I never did. I never straight up asked, no. Why not? Well, I don't know, maybe it's an African in me, but like I'm never too confident
Starting point is 00:06:08 about anything, even if it's like it's clear. And I think I've talked about this in the show too that like generally when something feels like it's mine, it ends up falling. I fall short. And so it's just like a mental thing. I didn't want to like jinx it. I didn't want to, exactly. I didn't want to jinx it.
Starting point is 00:06:23 You're scared like if I asked, it's going to take me out of the running and like push her away. Exactly. Yeah. Or just change, you know, what the plan is, what the universe's plan is. Yeah, that's really, it was more of a personal thing. I think a lot of people have that mentality in fantasy suites. Because we've asked a lot of people, like, did you ask the question? Like, is it me? And I would say no one on this podcast ever has. It's also not fair, really. To put them on the spot like that. Yeah. How would you have received that? I respectfully would have declined answering that. Yeah. And I do have like somewhat of regrets from my season, Like, it was never anything.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Like, I was making actual promises of like, okay, I can't wait to get engaged. Like, I never said any of those things. And I think that would have just definitely put him in a not so good headspace regardless of the outcome. But, yeah. Well, I guess the last thing you want to do, too, is say it. And, like, even if you're 100% sure in that moment, God forbid something, something that night changes or like, you realize you're not compatible. And then you're like, oh, my God, I have to eat my words now. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Which I knew that. Thank God. Oh, you did good. You did good. What did you guys talk about in your fantasy. What is the fantasy suite? Boom boom room. No,
Starting point is 00:07:30 no, we have fantasy suites on Paradise. Yeah, they do. Yeah. Yeah, you have fantasy suites. Yeah. And we hadn't done,
Starting point is 00:07:37 we didn't do boom boom room. So what did you say? Say you're nasty. Skipping forward. I actually, when we left, when we left fantasy sweets, I was not sure if I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm not going to ask you to marry me. Yeah. And I said, please don't. Yeah. And then, you know, you give me a,
Starting point is 00:07:55 You see it now. A day by myself and crazy things happen. I leave him for like a day and I come back and he's like bought like a new couch and booked us a trip to Japan. Like you can't leave him alone. We get on. Yeah, we booked. Yeah. Well, he booked it in a day.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like literally he was like, I have nothing to do to him. Like go book us. Do plan a trip. This is after the show. After filming ended, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Joe just like leaving him alone is so dangerous. He needs a buddy at all times. Oh my God. Yeah. It sounds like you should leave him alone more often. Yeah, I was like maybe this. I mean, cool things happen. Cool things happen.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's kind of fun. Not Joe being spontaneous. He's so spontaneous. How do we feel about Latia saying that she doesn't want to be intimate going into the fantasy? She also said, don't tell me anything about the other women. I like that I agree with that. Please are not. That's like an unspoken.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I shouldn't even have to tell you. I know what happens every season. So we see Latia. same thing. I didn't. Well, you didn't, like, you didn't verbatily say that, but you were just, like,
Starting point is 00:08:57 it was like an understood, like, respecting our relationships. I was like, I don't need to know. Yeah. And I think what provoked it was Katie and Katie Beger and Latia had a sit down chat and kind of unpacked what Katie went through. And Latia was like,
Starting point is 00:09:11 this has kind of given me the confidence to actually explicitly say to him, hey, we don't, this is, she, I think her exact quote was, this is an honesty hour. If you did anything, let's deal with it later. and not now when we have, like, such limited time together.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Which, that was interesting because I think it was, I agree. It's like, typically you think it's an unspoken rule. I think it was the first time we've seen someone explicitly be like, shut your mouth and don't tell me about your other connection. Yeah, I don't, yeah, you're right. I don't think we've ever seen it, like, be aired that way. Oh, interesting. I wonder what that says about the lead.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Like, about what she thinks Grant might do? Yeah, to, like, feel like you need to say that. Yeah, I feel like you think that he, like, she, probably viewed him as someone who would be vocal about this thing is that what you're saying yeah maybe she was nervous about it yeah or you know most likely i think it's just like the the church thing probably is the biggest part of it yeah but it is interesting because like i would never really like think to explicitly like it wouldn't be eating me up like oh i got to tell charity like don't tell me like you know i would just be like if she's probably not going to i might just reiterate right no i think
Starting point is 00:10:14 that's a good point because if you didn't feel like you had to say that to charity it probably speaks to the way that you are moving throughout your journey and it also probably speaks to the way that maybe Grant's been moving if she felt like hey like yeah don't tell me anything I I also think it's different a little different for men and women yeah that's true I think a woman going into a room alone with a man is more like let me lay the ground rules before we step into this room I didn't do that where where a guy like you were the bachelor's you were the bachelor's like you were in the power position okay yeah I wouldn't expect but I'm still scared as hell. Yeah, but I wouldn't expect Doughton to be like, hey, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:10:57 No, that would be crazy. I'm in good TV. No, I would have lost my mind. Yeah, you would not have liked that. I wouldn't have you. I think that would actually give me the egg if you had to be a good. Go ahead, yeah. No, hold on.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I hope you love respect. Um, so we saw that you were in Austin. Yeah. With a lot of the girls from your season and Latia. Yeah. Yeah, she, second trip. Second trip. She-ha.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Wait, what? Nice. We just almost lost the light. But it was fun. How was it? Yeah. It was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:29 They actually left like a day early. Katie had to head back. But we celebrated it. It was her and Mercedes, like, joint birthday. Katie and Mercedes? Mercedes and Latia. Also like, Latia is like now part of your crew. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:42 What was her in? Like who is her contact in the group that she? I want to say it was Katie first and then it became. me. Right. And then it just trinkled. I'm Jemel Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been
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Starting point is 00:12:58 So obviously, Katie went on their season to give Latia advice for Fantasy Suite. So that was like the initial, like, spark of the friendship. And then I think it just continued afterwards. And then following everything. Yeah. So you guys were in Salt Lake City, which I'm assuming is the first time
Starting point is 00:13:15 that she kind of met all of you in person. We were in... Where were we? Montana Montana yeah yeah yeah she's in Utah she lives in Utah but weren't you guys on a trip a while ago in Utah I never went where were you in bikinis in the snow Montana okay she flew out and joined you guys okay gosh that was sorry I don't know why I thought you were I just I just assumed you were because that's where she lives and I was like oh yeah yeah yeah they must be in her hometown please you want to say something jump in join the
Starting point is 00:13:43 conversation. He hates the bikinis in the snow conversation. No, that's great. No, I know. But anyway. Isn't it cold? No, it was, well, yeah, it's bikinis in the snow.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Of course it's cold. We risk getting hypothermia for those photos. Wow. They were sick, though. Thank you. I love them. Worth it. Yeah, see, I don't get that.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I don't get bikinis in the snow. It's like, it's like a little. Yeah. Thank you. Explain. I was like, it's an sense. It's also like you get sick of taking. But if him and I, if him and I did that,
Starting point is 00:14:12 if we did that, if we did. and Speedos in the snow, you guys would be like douchebacks. No, I wouldn't. Well, speedos and the snow would be hilarious. I would be like, let's see it. Come on. I would not complain.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I beg him to do stuff like that. He's like, no. Speedos in the snow. We're going to go into the Sierra Nevada. That's going to be the name of this podcast episode, Bachelor happy hour speedos in the snow. David's Bridal, if you're listening. But David's Bridal.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Ships your branding a little bit. Sponsored by David's Bridal. Spitos in the snow. Room wear. Speaking of Speedos, we have, paradise coming up excellent segue thank you
Starting point is 00:14:47 that was a great pivot thank you that was really good thank you professional you know it's my story here um doten out of all your friends
Starting point is 00:14:57 from the show who are you most excited to watch for paradise yeah or who do you hope's going to be there and drop some names you would be the most excited to watch yeah just because I hang out with them so much
Starting point is 00:15:07 definitely Jeremy and John B I really I'm so for so I'm so I see as soon as like I want everyone to go to the beach even if it's a horrible idea for them we're the same I still want them to go I'm like dude you should go yeah it's gonna be awesome I'm the biggest hype man I would never do it but I tell them to do it so they're gonna do it I think I've convinced them but I'm excited for them and honestly like if any of the guys from our season went truly because I just love them so much I just love watching them and it makes
Starting point is 00:15:36 me invested any like potential pairs that you see oh coming we've heard grant I'll tell you Grant said John B, no, John B, jiggity John, who? I'm screaming, who? Jonathan. I'm like who, say again. Jonathan and Jiggetty. We got to have a lot of J names in the recent seasons, to be honest. Jonathan and Alex from this last season was his like match made in heaven.
Starting point is 00:16:07 This is like going to sound really bad. Say it. Let's hear it. I love when we start a something like that. No, that's why I'm like, I hope I don't get in trouble for saying this. But, like, I feel like they, like, match well, but, like, I actually don't know about personality. Okay, no, that's not bad at all. Like, I just think he might be, like, a tad bit more up, like, you know, just a little bit more out there.
Starting point is 00:16:30 He, okay. Really, you don't get that from Alex? No. I feel like she's actually a lot. I mean, as far as I've seen. So I actually don't know. I haven't met her in person yet. But, like, I just don't sense that.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I don't know. Like, I'm trying to be very cute right now. you are and I hear what you're saying but does Alex post a lot yeah she's been pop up on my TikTok a lot well isn't there like a rumor that she like dated diplo for a minute yeah I think she was dating like a DJ for a while yeah I mean I don't know if it's true so you didn't don't don't this is not a credible journalistic podcast guys so no one quote us on that but yeah that's just my take on that does too okay I can't I can't say anything on my end because yeah you can't no no i can't because there's like past history with some of the people
Starting point is 00:17:16 i'm thinking of so i don't want to blow up anyone's spot okay hopefully it just show up on the beach that'd be fun tv i like i like loki hate that there's always past history that's why i hate that paradise it's like so like there's such a big gap i feel like you start coming right now do you it's annoying because i feel like that's what's happened last season that's why it is annoying and it never works out and we know that but also like it adds so much to the show because you're what i like about it is like you're getting like real life drama that has already happened and then they're like you're seeing things unfold in like real time that's not fully like from the bubble no like pulling things from like the real world and being like all right
Starting point is 00:17:59 now hash it out no see i but yes you're right and i i i like that but that only works when it's like people who aren't like tv conscious i feel like a lot of rules from my season sorry yeah that's more what I refer like when two people they're not going yeah they're not going to air it they're like oh we shouldn't talk about it like you need someone sorry respectfully like Carolina that doesn't care and it's probably going to come on and like put it all on the sand see we see a lot more of that now than we did what when I was on like my first time right most people were just like I'm here to just like make reality TV and I don't because social media it was around but I guess it just wasn't I mean it was really popular it just wasn't like it is today
Starting point is 00:18:39 People didn't really Well, people weren't like They weren't expecting backlash They were just like Oh, that's what you were trying to say Yeah, like there was there was kind of no There was way less fear Of being on reality teeth
Starting point is 00:18:53 Like how people are going to perceive you and stuff Yeah, just the hate you'll get on social media That wasn't even a thing Like you didn't think about that That's like in the last five years That's like post-COVID Yeah and I think that's why we see so many people Kind of like timid and not really airing it out
Starting point is 00:19:08 which I kind of wish, I wish they did. Well, yeah, and I think there's the added component of like the people that are loved on this show, you know, like, you know, the Daisy and Maria, for example, from recent seasons, they end up with these massive Instagram followings, which ends up being like new careers and new financial opportunities. So I think there's that kind of like underlying thought process, especially when people go on Paradise and it maybe like didn't work out with them the first time and they're like, well, you know, if it doesn't work out again, like maybe this could happen for me. And I feel like you just end up with so many more, like, people that are moving in a, like, a very, I don't want to say calculated, just, yeah, like, strategic way that doesn't always, like, work in their favor. You know what I mean? It's like, sometimes it's like you're being too calculated to where, like, it doesn't feel authentic. I think it depends on certain factors, like how you look. How about that?
Starting point is 00:19:57 Well, yeah, that definitely is a big role for sure. Because, yeah, there are certain people who would get away with some nonsense. And we know that, right? There's definitely people that can and can not get away with nonsense for sure. Yeah, yeah, so. I think we downplay how much luck is involved. Like, I don't really know if it's the environment for me, but like, really, I feel like you're really, you thrive. I was going to say, you thrive.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You had one two-year serious relationship from the show, and then the next time you went on, you got married. It's like the best environment for you. You've never had a relationship that formed outside of this show. Your only two relationships are from Bachelor of Parents, ever. This is like, you're the poster child for like you need to be in that environment to find love. Okay, yeah, I guess. That's nice. Case closed.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I don't really have a comeback, but. Well, look, you're not going to be like, I'm amazing on the show, so I'll hype you up. But I also think the formula works for you. And I don't know if it works. for everyone. I think I know why though. I think it's because you're like a you're very thoughtful person. You're pretty like cerebral. I think that angles are working out in favor unlike the opposite which would be like a cat right who's like doesn't have. Well I also think I look I look into the future and I'm like okay like this is what it is down here but like everything will change when you
Starting point is 00:21:28 step into the real world and then like then I'll see if it really works but I think I know enough right now where I could take that chance. I was going to say you're taking a big risk though. Like a lot of people like respectfully I would be terrified if I went to Paradise. But that's the thing I'm a gamble. I would not do good on Paradise. Really? Why do you think you wouldn't do good on Paradise? It's just the environment like if I
Starting point is 00:21:48 especially like just the fact that it's like no one's in control like you're only in control of yourself. Yeah. If I had like an interest and say it was like me and Dotten on the beach obviously I can't really speak on this because I'm like if it was him obviously. But if I locked in on him and like then there's like someone else like
Starting point is 00:22:04 Like, I listened to, like, if I knew we had established a connection at a certain point, I'm just not someone who wants to, like, bargain and, like, let me, you know, respectfully test out everybody on the, like, I don't care enough. Like, if I'm viving with someone, then I expect that to continue, and my feelings respectfully would get, like, hurt. Well, I also think it would be hard going from being the lead where you have all the control, essentially, to then no control. Whenever, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah. Yeah. Don, do you think you would thrive in paradise? Um, I think I could do it. I wouldn't, I don't think I would find love. But I think I can, like, put my emotion aside. I'm pretty good at, like, doing that. But that's what I mean when I say luck, like, you don't think you would find love, right?
Starting point is 00:22:40 But if charity was on the beach, when you went, then you would make it work. Oh, no, that's the most important thing I think you said. You mentioned it, is that luck. Right. I actually, as one of those people who never undermines the importance of luck in this process. Yeah. I think it's the most important thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And again, like, I got lucky with the guys that we were with, right? Because they were all really cool. And if they were assholes and duches, I probably wouldn't have opened up. And I would not, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of fact that people don't take into consideration. Yeah, like if he wasn't down there, like if he went a season later than me,
Starting point is 00:23:12 I would not have ended up engaged. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, like, sometimes it's just lining up the right people at the right time. Or even where you get placed. Like, I was the third person on the beach, but what if I was the first drop?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Like, I wasn't even original cast. Right. And then you took someone else on a date. Like, what would have happened? Right. Yeah, yeah, you never know. Or even on the regular show? Like if I got a lot of tension in the first couple of weeks, I mean, I know I'd have worked out. It could have like either did it out.
Starting point is 00:23:39 You know what I'm saying? Like it was kind of nice that I had a slow ramp up. Yeah. Because then she didn't get bored of me, you know? Juliana actually, she came on and told us that she told Grant to not give her an early one-on-one date because she knew she wasn't going to be able to open up. And that's why she had like the last one-on-one of the season. What do you think about that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Smart. Yeah. You think so? That is kind of smart. For sure. Yeah. I think statistically they show that those early. early connections almost always fizzle out right I might need that so I think it's actually a good idea to like
Starting point is 00:24:08 turn his like my ring lights off I'm not glowing anymore yeah I think I think it's um I think that's actually a really smart idea to say hey save it and then yeah again it's all about like who's so many options who's top of mind you know that's recency bias is a real thing and so like if you want a better shot yeah you don't want to be an early connection yeah as the lead do you think like I agree yeah yeah I think the first yeah absolutely um they're just recent most recent and just for example like who had the first one on my I think it was year B and then it's like I think you already forgot well I would hope so it's a good sign that you can't remember I think like when you have a first or an early
Starting point is 00:24:53 one-on-one you are almost expecting to either have a double like two one-on-ones and that's also not guaranteed or yeah at some point something else that's like more meaningful to like reinforce like that early connection which is again not guaranteed so you're putting yourself in this like like limbo of like is it going to like happen is it not and I just think yeah yeah it's just safer to go later on when you're like okay yeah hey this man got two back to back oh yeah you did how do you both feel about the show that you fell in love on is on pause it is kind of sad like I mean I'd be crazy to say it's not like it's a it is our love story but like yeah um i don't know i think it might be a good sign you know
Starting point is 00:25:39 so that things can just you just need some recalibration there you know so a little refresh to fit in the grooves again but yeah i don't know i mean i obviously like i wasn't in bachelor world at all until after the show when i started learning about it it makes a ton of sense for sure like i just think there's just a lot of things that need to be tweaked and even while we weren't during our season things were being tweaked right you kind of saw it happening. So I guess it sort of makes sense. And yeah, I don't want it to be canceled. I hope they bring it back because it is an amazing experience, obviously. Wouldn't say that before the show, but haven't been on it. Even for all the guys who didn't get engaged,
Starting point is 00:26:18 it was an amazing experience. So I do hope that they keep it on. Just, I think, need to make some tweaks and maybe modernize it a little bit. Yeah, I think the Paradise Break and then it coming back this year, if it goes well, we'll give some hope to like, okay, Bachelorette also taking a pause and then coming back. Yeah. Just because we saw they did that with Paradise and, you know, maybe it's going to result in like a better show. Joe and I have been kind of speculating on like who would have been Bachelorette had Bachelorette had Bachelorette been a thing this year?
Starting point is 00:26:52 Because obviously we're watching the show being like, oh, like this person would be good, this person would be good. Who do you think could have been a good Bachelorette Or did you hear anything about who was maybe in talks to be bachelorette? Okay, if we're speaking like girls from grant season That was at the tell-all I personally think Alex had again, she had a great one-on-one conversation with Jesse I thought that was like kind of alluding to possibly like
Starting point is 00:27:18 Okay, I don't know what's next for me like my love story continues I think personally for me again I'm always reading for her I think she would have been a great candidate And then if they didn't go with you would you have said yes to paradise? No. You would have said no for sure? I'm telling y'all, y'all, it's not a cap.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Cap. I would actually, it would just be really bad for me. I would be doing myself a disservice. Okay. As in like how I would have been acting. I would have been acting crazy down there. Okay. Yeah, but you only know that after the fact.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Well, exactly. You'd have been like, oh, I don't know what's going to happen. And then you would have went to. No. I feel like it's hard to ask you that question now, though, because you've now seen your friends go down and how it played out. It's not about they were acting. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:56 No, no. Once your friends are there, you'll be like, oh, my God, let's go, girls. No, first of all, the environment. I'm not, the humidity, are you kidding? You would not have, like, the conditions. The conditions alone would have, that's what would have sit me into the spiral. And then, yeah, the bugs, and then, again, too possessive, sorry, in a healthy way. But, like, what's mine is mine.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Go away. That's why, you're perfect for the bachelor's role. You're like, you're all mine. Yeah. Yeah, so I just, yeah. Okay. What the fuck you look at it? Well, closing off, life updates.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You guys are still in Brooklyn. You moved. Yes. It's crazy. We're still getting settled. Would you like to talk about that? It takes forever to get an apartment together, truly. No, it does.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And it does in New York City specifically. Just because, like, yeah, you don't have a garage. It's like all these things. So we're constantly just MacGyvering things. Like, okay, we need a, there have three shoes here. We don't know where to put them. Yeah. How are we going to put them on the wall on the ceiling or something?
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, yeah. Yeah, like the media console under my TV is literally just shoes in person. You get it exactly. Literally bought like three different cabinets to put it. It is, it's rough. And this one, this one is getting things fast and then we can put them away. What do you mean? Buying and gifted.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Like, yeah. No, but buying two. Let's be honest. Buying and gifted. So like we're just slowly as we like put things away, then there will be more boxes. You're like, okay, so we're just going to lose this game then. When we go away, when we go away for three days, I come back and I'm like, oh, I actually ordered something.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Let me see if I, my. My package won't be there and Serena will have 15. And then I'm like, I've got to carry up 15 packages. They're not even fucking mine. No, it is a serve. I'm like, Dawn gets one compared to like the 20. And it's just what I ordered from Amazon. It's like laundry detergent for the house.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah, yeah, literally. Okay, so that's it for this episode of Bachelor. Happy Hour. Thank you, Dotten and Charity. And thank you to David's Bridal. And let's go enjoy the IHart Music Awards. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics podcast, Spolitics. And on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me
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