Bachelor Happy Hour - Spilling Tea LIVE from the ‘Men Tell All’ — Part 1

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

Today on “Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are coming to you LIVE from the first-ever “Golden Bachelorette Men Tell All”! In the aftermath of tonight’s episode, we’re getting the inside scoop on everything that went down from all your favorites. What can Joan tease for us to come? How does Pascal feel about his breakup with Joan? What’s next for our currently single Golden bachelors? Tune in to find all this out and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics

on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD,

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Hey everyone Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour I'm Joe And I'm Serena And we are here again Live at the Mentowall We have a bunch of guys Coming on this podcast

So I can't wait to talk to And we're also going to get Joan The Golden Bachelor at herself I like that How you feeling? Serena. I'm feeling good. We are recording this at midnight Easter standard time. They literally just wrapped the taping. So we are so excited to get the men. I feel like the vibes are always so good right after the tell all. They come in with so much adrenaline and energy and just excited to

talk about the night. Yeah. What was your, any standout moments tonight? Standout moments. I mean, the Mansion Men song is going to be stuck in my head for all of eternity. That song is definitely stuck on my head. Yeah, it's really stuck in my head. It's like in my head right now. Yeah, like it's playing as we're talking. Um, but I was impressed by the song and I like that they brought that back. Yeah, me too. Um, I liked, I liked Pascal's hot seat. Yeah, well, you're a big Pascal. I always enjoy a Pascal moment. And we are going to be talking to him for the first time. Oh my gosh. Yeah. We haven't had him on the podcast. Yeah. So that'll be very exciting and then we'll have a couple men that will be coming back for round two on bachelor happy

hour we're going to get gary and oh you know what was nice tonight was seeing um the children in the audience yes a lot of kids and i kind of wish we were getting to talk to some of them to be honest yeah me too i'm always curious to hear what they have to say but we did see some sweet moments with charles ell and his daughter as well as pascal and his kids how are we feeling about charles ellen is new hairdo. I like it. I mean, he pulls it off. It looks very natural.

And I don't know. I'm a fan. I feel like there's conflicting opinions. But I'm curious. We can ask him about it. No, I like it. I think it looks good. I mean, he was definitely rocking the gray.

I think when like a little salt and pepper starts to form, that's going to be his elite look. You think so? Yeah, I think so. Just like a little speckle of gray in there. I like it. Jonathan, welcome, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour again. Yeah, thanks for having me back. It's good to see you guys.

How do you feel about tonight? I'm just super excited, full of enthusiasm, and, you know, it's just been a reunion with all the guys. You know, I haven't seen them in a while. And so it's just been a great, you know, a reconnection with everyone. It's great to see Joan tonight. And so it's just been a wonderful night so far. Out of the guys, who are you most looking forward to seeing him tonight? Oh, man, that's such a tough question.

I mean, it's like, you know what? Gosh, you know, I really look forward to seeing Gary tonight. You know, Gary and I had a great bond. I miss his laughter is infectious. And so whenever I hear his laughter, it just kind of makes that great connection with the mansion and this whole experience. Good to see Mark again tonight.

I think Mark and I had this, or I felt that I had this kind of spirit connection with Mark, and so it was good to see him again tonight as well. you dropped a bomb on everyone at the end of the night that you are in fact seeing someone. Can you tell us everything? How did you guys meet? How's it going? Gosh, you know what? It's so early in the stage that I don't want to, I really don't want to kiss and tell, so to speak. Well, I mean, you did drop it on national television. So now you want to kiss and tell just a little bit. Right, just a little bit. And I, you know, I think on that note, I was like, you know what?

I mean, it's still fresh. It's new. I met someone. I think she's an amazing woman. So many great qualities about her. She has a youthful spirit as much as I do. I think that's how we really connect with each other. And you know what?

I mean, I feel really happy with her. And I think that's, it's mutual. That's amazing. Can you tell us how you met? Yeah, we met online. Okay, nice. Nice. Like through...

Like the DMs or a dating app? A dating app. Yeah. Yeah. Very nice. Well, we're very happy for you. And we're excited what the future holds. We saw you had a hot seat tonight and we saw you get, you got a little emotional watching everything back.

So, yeah, how are you feeling with all of it now that it's that it's complete? Gosh, you know what? It's really a good feeling. It's almost like a certain sense of closure tonight getting on that hot seat and then seeing my journey on the screen was something that I've seen like like you guys go through or previous seasons go through and to think that I was on the couch looking up at the screen and seeing my journey from the beginning to the end

was another surreal moment. But talking through those things with Jesse was, it was a sense of closure and it was a certain sense of contentment, you know, inside of myself. And so when I walked off the stage, back with the guys, it was like, you know, I felt really good about it.

What are you guys doing tonight? Any plans? Gosh, you know, I don't know. I think there's like some kind of get together afterwards. And so I guess I'm just going to kind of walk in and see what's going to happen. And then you see Joan for the first time. So this is the first time you've seen Joan since you left the mansion, correct? Yes, yes.

And what was it like seeing her? Well, you know, when she first walked out, I mean, she was stunning and beautiful as the first time that I saw her when she took the blindfold off, off me from the limousine. And so, I mean, she was beautiful. It was good to see her. You know, and, you know, I saw a friend walk out. You know, you know, I know at the beginning of the journey was to look to see if there was a love interest connection. And so I think in our conversations, our one-on-one dates and everything that transpired, you know, and how things ended, you know, I had closure. And so I had no regrets that, you know, or, you know, thinking that I'm missing out on something

because I think we established that we have a friendship. And so it was good to see her walk out. That's good. What do your kids think of all of this now that the journey is done? Gosh, you know, I think they were a little bit, they were a little sad, you know, that, you know, when I told them, it's like, you know, hey, guys, you know, my journey's ended. You know, I didn't get a hometown. And so, yeah, they were a little sad, but I'm a pretty positive guy. And so, you know, I just want to let them know that everything is okay.

You were someone that was so close to hometowns. If you did get that hometown date, what is one thing you would have done with Joan? Gosh, I would have taken her, you know, well, in the hometown, you know, there's, it's a small. little area. And so I actually would have taken her from, from hometown into Omaha, where I work, commute to work, and there's lots of restaurants there. There's like one famous, there's one restaurant that I used to work at many years ago as a waiter, which is really a beautiful restaurant in this area called the Old Market. This has all these old warehouse buildings that were converted into retail shops and restaurants. Great place to walk around, take a

carriage ride or something like that. How far of a drive is that from you? It's about a 40 minute drive. Oh, so you're right there. Okay. So you're like on your base that you're on like the border. Okay. Right, right, right. Absolutely. And then looking back on your journey on your entire time on the show, do you have one moment that stands out to you?

Do I have what? Do you have one moment that stands out to you? Gosh, one moment. I think that the posted reveal, you know, that I shared about with Mark, you know, that was just. just one of those things that just really impacted my experience there. It's like, you know, and having another guy take the time out to write on a posted note what he wrote and then stuff him inside my coffee cup because he knew that was my ritual every morning was a very impactful moment for me.

It was like something that was really special. And so that's one of the moments that I'll never forget from this experience. yeah incredibly thoughtful last question i know you're i know you're in a relationship but it's early if let's say the relationship doesn't pan out and there's a golden bachelor in paradise would you do it a golden bachelor in paradise yeah yeah oh man um that's that's a tough one to say I guess I would have to be open to it. But, you know, yeah, that would be a tough, that would be a tough one to decide. Well, let's just hope this relationship works out.

Absolutely. That's what we're rooting for. Well, Jonathan, thank you so much for taking the time and hopping on to talk to us again. And we love seeing you tonight. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Good to see you guys and nice talking with you as well. Have a good night. You too.

All right, take care. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics.

And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge, but we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents, and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right.

thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie, and you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Mark, welcome to Happy Hour. Welcome back. Thank you.

I'm glad to be back. I like the pink tie hangar-chief situation. Is that all for Breast Cancer Awareness Month? Absolutely. I love it. That's great. Hanker-Chief, that's a... Is that a hangar-chief?

Or a pocket square. Or it would be a hanker-chiff. I don't wear either of those things. Do you say hanker-chief? Yeah, hanker-chief. Hanker-chiff? Is that a Canadian? Maybe that's a...

I think it's Canadian. I think it's a language barrier. I don't know. It's a hanker-chief. I'm not that wrong. No, but you look great. Who dressed you, Mark? Do you do this yourself?

You? Wow. Impressive. Very put together. How's everything going? How was it seeing the guys tonight? Oh, it's fantastic. You know, I've just been looking forward to this night for so long.

Like, just being able to get back with these guys. It's just like, and it just kicked right back up. Like, you know, it's like we're all supposed to be there. It was so cool. Yeah. How was Charles L., the new look? You like it? The dyed here?

yeah he's like looking all young and spry and stuff he's keeping up with that you know fit guy he looks fresh was there anything that you were nervous for going into tonight um no i mean i was excited i think i was just excited like i was i guess nervous excited yeah but excited like happy just like excited happy you know back with these guys and and then for joan to come in and be able to see joan again too that was really nice Yeah, what was it like seeing her for the first time? It was good. It was good.

You know, for me, I was, I left and I left. I think I was given a, you know, I was most appreciative for the way that I left that she came and gave me a talk. It could have just been at a rose ceremony, not got a rose and, you know, said, okay, bye, and left. But for me, it was, she was just so graceful. and, you know, I just, I was gracious that she would, you know, explain to me why. Were you surprised? She didn't have to, that's for sure.

Yeah. Were you surprised when she had that conversation with you? Or did you in any way maybe see it coming? Um, I kind of, I kind of expected it, but I didn't, I did not expect a conversation. Gotcha. Yeah, I feel like you're one of the few guys that left with a little bit of closure. I would say in your relationship. Watching it all back and going through this surreal experience,

do you think, would you have changed anything? I mean, I could say yes, I wish I had to change things. But for me, like, I'm not a real fast, you know, I'm not a fast dater. It just took me a minute to get through it. And I, if I had not gone at my own pace, I don't know that it would have been me. that's fair so i went slower at my pace and you know it wasn't it wasn't quite quick enough you know i mean it's a it's a it's a it's a fast time you got to be on um so it was it was some getting used to there yeah it's very fast what do you think your biggest take away from

this experience is now that it's all done officially um um i mean i i I've learned so much. Like, and I'm, and I've, I've opened up so much. Well, um, that it's just positivity, you know, like, there was such a positive experience for me. Um, and, I mean, I couldn't be more grateful for it. What's some advice you would give someone going on the Golden Bachelorette? Another guy.

Um, be yourself and, and be, there for the right thing you know like it's if you're not there to try to find love then why are you there yeah um if if you're not there to be yourself if you're there to um you know be anything other than yourself like it's not going to work i think it's important what you said though even though you know it's not you to be someone who's could date in a fast timeline it is very it it really comes with the show it is something i think people should kind of be prepped on when they go into a show like this it's like things move a lot quicker than you would expect and it's like you kind of have to be a little ready for that yeah yeah i wasn't like i think i just wasn't really ready for that

um or i didn't realize how fast that yeah that's what i'm saying i'm most hard like even you can't yeah even myself like when we go on it you're just like all of a sudden you're like you're like whoa, this has gotten very serious. Yeah, you're like, how did we get here? We know, we got engaged. We were like, how did we get here? That was crazy and fast. Yeah.

We saw Joey was in the audience tonight, which was a nice surprise. We're missing Kelsey, though. Where was she? Kelsey's out in New York. Yes, I actually did see that on Instagram. So you asked them a question that you knew the answer. Well, you check it up on me.

I wasn't 100% sure. Is Kelsey really your daughter, Mark? What's happening? Well, she's working on a cool project, I believe. Yeah. It looked like it was for breast cancer awareness. Yeah, it was a joint venture that was done. And yeah, so it was a wonderful cause.

I got to see her at Dancing with the Stars. So, you know, she had one with her. and she gave her sister's bracelets, too. So it's just a beautiful bracelet. Nice. Yes. If you're listening, go support Kelsey in that venture. And have you been able to go support Joey a couple of the Dance with the Star Shows as well?

I have been able to. I got to go to the premiere, which was fantastic. And then last night with, you know, three of Kelsey's other siblings got to go also. So it was fantastic. Last question. What did your kids think about everything now that it's all over? Happy? Yes. Good. Good. They're good to hear. Well, Mark, thank you so much for taking the time. We love seeing you on our screens again tonight. Yeah, I'm sure we'll run into you again soon, hopefully. I hope so. All right. Thanks, Mark. Bye.

Thanks, Mark. I see you. Bye. Bye. Oh, it's Serena Joe. Hey, you guys. How are you? Hey, how you been? good how you good hi Keith welcome back how are you oh yeah good I have nothing to say I'm boring and I'm tired so bye bye keep on we only need you for about six minutes and I know you got six minutes in you yeah I can I can ramble for 20 so it's all right so how was it tonight seeing all the guys again oh dude it's it's it's such a blast to see everybody like I've been lucky because of work I travel. So I've seen Jordan. I've seen Dan, Gil, Gary, Jonathan, Jack. I mean, it's awesome. But you see, you see them in these little settings and now everybody coming back. But the coolest

part is we had kids. So two of my daughters were here, two of Jordan's daughters. And so everybody started, you know, three of Marks. All the kids are meeting, you know, meeting the people that we talk about, which is the coolest part of tonight. That is so cool. Your daughters look beautiful in the audience. It must have been so fun having them there. Oh, yeah. But then Jesse, Jesse's like, he talked about the Chippendell. He's like, well, let's, Keith, your daughters are here. Let's get their reaction. I'm just like, oh, no. But what did, what did they say about? Oh, no. They've been asked this question ever since the Chippendell's like, you're dead. Yeah. But to a T, they go, no, that's my dad. Right there. They're not surprised. They're not

surprised. They know their dad. Are you guys going out tonight? Any plans? Yeah, they've got a little something. So the kids, they're all heading back and we're going to have like a big get-together, drinks, you know, cocktails, meal, little appetizers, I guess. And we're just going to hang and just get to know each other, I think, more. Yeah, I'm lucky. I get to see my daughters all the time. I live in California. Some up and down and seeing, you know, see, I told you I'm rambling. Not only you're good.

It was this weekend, I came in early, and I got to see Mark, and I went to dinner with Kelsey and Joey. Oh, nice. What did you think of them? It's so hilarious because during the day, people are coming up to Mark and I to get pictures, and Mark and I were non-existent. You're sitting there and you're like, hey, what about us? What about us over here? No, it's all about them. And then the next morning, we had brunch with my daughter and her boyfriend.

Oh, so nice. And then Mark got to hang out with my daughter all day too. And I think she likes him better than me now. I don't know. He's such a nice guy. You're in San Jose, right? Yeah. So what is that?

Do you drive or do you fly? Yeah, no. This time I flew. What I do is since I work down here, I'll drive down to L.A. And then see my daughter one night, work a few nights. I don't know. How far ever drive is that? What is that?

Six hours? Depends. Hollywood's only, if I leave at 5.30 in the morning, I can actually make Irvine. If I leave at 5.30, I can make Irvine for a lunch at 11.30. So what is that? Six hours? Okay. But, yeah, about six hours. That's a big drive.

Yeah, no, it's a big, yeah, it's a big, I talk on the phone and I don't know. Yeah. You used to it. How was it seeing Joan for the first time? Oh, she was beautiful tonight. In a while. Yeah, it's been a while. It's, uh, I saw my last episode, um, where, uh, the helicopter.

And then what we were talking at the winery and, and, and, and, And I actually almost teared up listening to myself because just talking with Joan through this whole experience from day one through the last, each time you talk to her, she always tries to get something more out of you or talks to you. And when we were at the winery, she wanted to hear the more sensitive side. She didn't want to hear fun guy Keith anymore. She wanted to hear a more sensitive side. And I said the words, but now watching back and hearing me say the words, that was, that's

what got me the most. I was so happy I did this experience. I was, you know, Jones, a beautiful woman. I'm hoping she finds the right person. I hope I find the right person someday, but I know that she's helped me get to that point of emotion of listening to myself and opening myself up more. Yeah. Has this experience changed how you're going to approach dating in the future? Yeah, I think I'm actually just going to try to date more. I think I, I, I, I'm actually you're just going to try to date more. I date, but I don't date often enough, I don't think. And I should put myself out there a little more.

I'm not a big app guy, but I have opportunities to date. So why not go date some different women and see what I really like and don't like and have some new experiences? And I'll see what it goes from there. Yeah, you should. You should. I think that's great. Looking back on your time on the show, is there anything that you would have changed?

But I think I'm still true to myself, but the one thing I would have changed is, you know, I've watched Bachelor forever. And when I was at the prom, I didn't put enough time into trying to get time with Joan outside of my little time that I had. When I was at the kickball game, I was into the practice and doing the kickball, and I didn't find time to just stroll over to Joan and find time to talk with her and get to know or more. those are the moments I think that you can find out more about an individual it's not choreographed you're just talking things are happening it's more and that's the way I like to work anyway so that's what I would have done differently I don't I don't think it would have changed anything but it would have maybe I've got it maybe I would have gotten to a hometown but ultimately I just think we were two different people that you know we had two different sets of goals at the end of the day yeah yeah I think that's a good advice I think that's also good advice for anyone that's going on the show in the future is just to kind of take advantage of every moment. We're kind of talking about that with Mark. It just goes by so fast. You would have thought I would have been the guy who would have known that, but I got caught out. It's different when you get there. It is. It's totally different.

Looking back on your season, do you have any moment that really resonates with you? Yeah. I've been, I've been, I've said, it's not, it's not one moment that. I would say the one moment that really resonates me is when we were sitting there before the first impression rose, I just felt so comfortable. And I wish I could have taken that feeling and that emotion. And just every single time I saw Joan, I was able to recreate that. And I just couldn't do that. Not that we couldn't get it done.

It just wasn't there, I guess. But yeah, that first night getting out of the limo, everybody's uh you're you're nervous you're on edge but it was it was so easy to talk to her and just sit there and and that's that's probably my most memorable moment and it's not the first impression rose it's the moments before it's the talking and the interaction we had before nice like that well keith honestly you came in here and said you were boring and you were great you just you just you just you just you just crushed your time slot you guys are boring then you're I think it is. Last question, though, before you go, if there is a golden bachelor in paradise, you enter you out.

In. All right. Nice. That's what we like to hear. I got some suggestions, though. Don't give, you know, I don't think you want to see a bunch of fat old men running around in a bathing suits and speedos or whatever. So maybe if you get us to like a resort with golf, pickleball, tennis, you know, a little bar restaurant. I'm all, that's even better to me. Yeah, no bunk beds, no shared rooms. No, I'm all there. Or as I said last time, if Wells retires, give me a call. I'm in. I'll be a bad. There you go.

All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Keith. Thanks for coming on. All right, bye, bye. Bye. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So, we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemel Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? many of them are in fear of their political lives and that's been part of the challenge but we continue

to say to them you were elected to defend your constituents to stand up for your constituents and there's life after congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever make sure to listen to spolitics on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast hi my name is enya umanzor and i'm drew phillips and we run a podcast called emergency intercom if you're a crime junkie and you love crimes we're not the podcast for you

But if you have unmedicated ADHD Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hi, Pascal.

How were you? Bonjour. How do you? That's as much as you know. That's as much as you got. I'm not as good as Jesse. Yeah, Jesse speak very well. Como tell you is how are you, right?

Yeah, comeo tell you, say, why you? Yes. Okay. Sava bien. Yeah, not bad. Actually, yeah, she's Canadian. She's Canadian. Are you Canadian?

I am. Which part of Canada? Toronto. Toronto. I've been to Toronto, yeah. My ex-wife was a Canadian. Oh, yeah. Calgary, yes.

Calgary. Okay. I like Toronto better than Calgary. I mean, I agree. I think Toronto is a beautiful. They said Toronto is the city, the photocopy of Chicago, because you have the lecture boulevard. I've been to Toronto many times. You have lecture boulevard. You have the lecture drive. You have the water. Yeah, it's a beautiful city. Yeah. I'm from Chicago. You're from Chicago? I am. I am. I know where you're, I know where your shop is. You're in

Glencoll, right? Yes. What part of Chicago are you from? So I'm from a town called Melrose Park. I know where Melrose Park is. Yeah. Have you ever been to, have you ever been to Johnny's Beef? Yes, yes. Okay. Yeah, that's, I grew, I went to, I went to grade school across the street from Johnny's Beef. Okay, okay. And where are you now? We're in, we live in New York right now. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So we, so first question. Yeah. We're coming to, uh, Chicago for Christmas for the holidays. And Serena wants to come to your shop and get a blowout. Oh, I want to come to

your salon. Definitely. You got an invitation. You want to do my hair? I'll let you. I'll let you. You do whatever you want with it. Definitely, definitely. Come to Chicago, it's on the house. Okay, I will come visit. Whatever you want, okay? I'm coming. Yeah, I'm coming to.

I want to check it out because it looks really nice. It looks beautiful. You'd be very impressed. It's a big operation. We will be. How was it tonight seeing all the guys for the first time in a while? It was incredible. I enjoy seeing the guys.

You know, I mean, obviously, you know, during the process, it was like 23 guys, 24 guys started. And then we end up being. 18, then 14, the 11, we went down to the letter. But, you know, I connected with few of them. You know, when you put 24 guys together, you know, you look at where you belong a little bit. And there is some where I get around better than others.

So I was trying to be personable with everybody, but there is people I was hanging more than others. And, you know, that's, but I like him. I like, I like the guys. Yeah. Yeah. How about seeing Joan? Now it's the first time you've seen her since the breakup.

It was nice in John. It was nice in June. Actually, when I saw her, he was very nice to see, and we put a closure into the struggle we had. Because, you know, when I left, I know that she was very hurt. And that was not my intention. I didn't expect her to have those deep feelings toward me. And it was very difficult to,

to let go, but I wasn't there. I couldn't be in the places I needed to be for at the time. I needed more time. I think, you know, it's never easy to break up with someone and a relationship, but I think you handled it very well. You know, watching it, I don't even think she could be upset with you because you were truly just being honest in yourself, which is all anyone could ask for in this experience.

seeing your son tonight stand up and say, you know, watching you get emotional has really helped him. How did that feel? You know, I think I've always tried to, I always put a wall to, to my children. I didn't want to see them the struggle I went through life. I wanted to show her a better, better life than I had. And so I really never really get involved with my past and where I come from and the struggle I had in my life. I just wanted to be a. great father. I've always believe in communication with my children, you know, that's not the way I had

it with my parents. You know, my parents were too busy raising children and unfortunately, you know, because of that, I got scar from that and, you know, I spent a lot of time in the street and you know, I get in trouble and when I get in trouble, I had the belt, the shoes

or the broom and that's the way they were raising me because that's the way they were raised. And the years and years, I was very resentful of them because they didn't understand who I was. And finally, I wake up and I find peace when I understand where they come from. They were raised that way. They didn't know any better. When I come to peace with that, I felt relieved.

I felt like there was a monkey out of my back. And I promised myself, then, I'm going to raise my children completely differently. I want to make them understand that they could always come to me, communicate with me, about their struggles, about their anxiety, about what they want in life. And I always show them the risk and the reward of their action. So I raised my children the way I would have loved to be raised. Unfortunately, this didn't happen. But I come with peace with it.

And I think today I did a good job within my kid because my son rock and so is my daughter. Yeah. You did a great job. Your kids are so beautiful and they seem so confident and just so proud of you. you. I believe in education. I told my son he's got back in the plane and go to college because he's messing three class to be here today. So I said three is enough. Six is not good enough, you know? Yeah. Looking back on your time on the show, what's one thing that you think you've learned about yourself? I think what I learn is to be more vulnerable, more open about my feeling.

You know, I've always keep it inside. I've always been, you know, I've come to the state by myself. I've, you know, basically been by myself my whole life. And I think being in the show with those guys and understand that I'm not the one who's struggling with my problem, you know what I mean? I think being a widow is a lot of struggle. Being a divorce and I have a tough divorce is a lot of problem. My divorce was simple and easy and my struggle has been for my childhood. And I never talk about it because I felt guarded and that.

But I think being in the mention with those guys and being able to be away from the social media, the telephone, the TV, the newspaper, the news, and being able to communicate with them in a level more person and deeply. I was very cautious in the beginning, but after that, when I saw them opening up and open him up, I said, you know, it's time for me to really get into the program and tell them where I come from, where I how do I feel? And life has not been easy, but, you know, I walk my way through that and the life I get better and better.

But I choose to live in the moment versus the past and the future. You know, I think there is that I've learned from my past, but I'm enjoying the today. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. And that, to me, being in the mention with those guys, I try to send that message to them about don't live so much in your past. There is nothing you can do about the dead of your loved one. There is nothing you can do about your bitter divorce. But what you could do is to live today, enjoy the day.

you know, you choose to be happy or you choose to be unhappy, and that's what I send the message to those guys. I think that's good advice. Last question, before we let you leave. You ever seen the French film Breathless? Wetless.

Yes. Yeah, everybody said I look like the guy. A little bit. A little bit, but it's a good movie. I watch, you know, I've seen a lot of French cinema. No, you haven't. Yes, I have. Yes, I have.

What's the popular one? What's the popular one? 400, what is it? 400 something? 400 blows. Whatever. Pascal, thank you. Borsellino, you should watch this one,

which is with those two famous actors, Jean-Paul Benmando and Alan de Lone. What's the movie called? Borcholino, like the hat. It's a fantastic movie. Okay. We will watch it. We'll watch that.

And then we'll tell you what we thought when we come to your salon in Chicago. Please, when you come to Chicago. you have an open invitation. Just give me a call and I'll take care of everything time for you guys. Love to, love to see you there. Thank you. Well, we will.

Thanks for coming on and talking with us. Nice to meet you both, okay? Have a good night. Nice to meet you. All right. I think this is a good time to end part one right here. Make sure you guys stay tuned because we're going to be interviewing more guys that you are definitely going to want to hear from.

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