Bachelor Happy Hour - Sticky Situations | Golden Hour

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Today on Golden Hour, we’re getting into more of your listener write-ins! We kick off today’s episode by recapping Joan’s Hometowns episode of “The Golden Bachelorette.” Then, we get into our question of the day: What’s something Kathy and Susan did as parents that they’re proud of? Then, we dive into some advice: How do you deal with disappointment as a parent? What do you do when your partner won’t budge when it comes to the silent treatment? You asked and we’re here to help! Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics

on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD,

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Thanks again as usual for joining us today. How are you doing, Susan? I'm doing great. I'm almost rehabbed here. I know you and I with our headbands on and our birthday. faces, but we're almost there. I know. You're a little bit ahead of me by three days. I'm jealous. And ladies and gentlemen, we're so glad to be back.

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We love answering your questions. You can ask us questions about our facelift. We're dying to talk about it. Absolutely. All right. Today we're going to get into more of the questions. But first, Kathy, let's get into last night's episode of the Golden Bachelorette. Okay.

We got to start. We got to start with chalk. Did you love the beginning where Joan So he has, what, two grandchildren, Taylor and Tyler or his children. I don't know who, but she's talking to the little boy with his teeth and his smile. I mean, that was a very sweet moment there. And I thought that just shows how Joan is really close to her family and wants a guy that she can be close with his family. Let's start with Guy.

First of all, he made me cry. I actually teared up last night. Wait, wait, before you, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, before you get into Guy, did you hear one more thing? wait but one more thing about chalk since we're going out of order here we did so what you know let's we're saving the first we're saving the best for first um she said to chalk did you hear her tell him that she wants a man that she sees a future with and is and a commitment and she said he was on did you hear her say something to that effect that she feels good with him she's been saying that the whole time in that she was attracted to him from the very beginning.

And she said that when he came back from his mother's funeral, she felt differently, she just knew. I mean, I just think she was scared he wasn't going to come back. Yeah. Well, we already know that point. I think the next question, Susan, is for chalk and then we can move on to Guy. I just want to see the ring he picked out for. What do you think?

I think he'll do good. He is eager to please. And I mean, when she says I see a future with him, and has no reservations. I mean, that tells me everything I need to know. And she, a couple times, she referred to somebody as reminding her of her husband, of her late husband,

which is interesting. But let's start with Guy. All right. He actually opened up. I mean, he really did. He opened up. He was more vulnerable, his children, his sisters, his, you know.

He made me cry. He was amazing last night. He said, you know, if you make a wish and you throw something into like Tahoe, then your wish will be granted. He said the prize at the end is worth taking any risk. Like, I think he knows what's, you know, what's at stake. And I really feel like he was putting his all into this state with her. He was very vulnerable and he's allowing himself to love again. And I just don't want him to get his whole. heartbroken and I feel like he is. She brought, Joan brought up John again. You know, this is a prevailing theme on this show, not this episode, the show, where we're going back, we're talking about John, the guilt, can she commit?

And I think to some people that, that may be a turnoff because, you know, why is she there if she can't commit? I personally think Joan is ready to commit, but I think she still struggles a little bit with, you know, the death of John. And that's certainly understandable, right? Sure. Sure. It's three and a half years. But one thing I noticed, and she repeated this with two of them, Kathy. Yeah. She said, I'm worried he wouldn't pick me. I know. I heard that. What the hell? I don't know. She said that to Jordan. She said it with Guy. Guy and Jordan. Exactly. And that's so interesting that she would say that because although, well, we'll get to Jordan a minute. Let's finish with

with Guy. Guy did a great job. He opened himself up. He said how important family is to him and that it is with Joan and that he's going all in. His family seemed to love her and said they hadn't seen their dad behave this way in a long time. I thought when he was talking to his sons and they're like, dad. And he was like, that's when he teared up and got him crazy. And then he said sometimes you've got to rush in where fools don't go or something.

I'm not, you know, it's not a direct quote. I just think for the first time, Guy put himself that I want her, you know, not as much as as chalk in his behavior, but you could tell he's really. As well as, we'll go to the next one, my Pascal, let me just tell you, I loved all of it. I love the energy, maybe because I'm in the salon, I was in the salons, my life compared to his. Like, I kept doing comparison things all the way. He stole my heart. You know, you guys can talk hair all night long. It'll be titillating discussion. Everyone will be snoring at the table. But Pascal did say I like to be in charge. And I think that's very

clear about him. I don't think, I mean, it doesn't matter. I don't think in the show he wants a partner as much as he wants a peacock. You know, he wants someone to show off. He wants Jones. I mean, he wants a good-looking woman, but he wants to be in love. He's, again, he's another one that is protecting himself. He's had billions of girlfriends, they said, but nothing serious he really wants. But I don't know that he's ready to say, I want to marry you. Well, I don't know. I think we got that teaser where Pascal's daughter, I think, her name is Natalie. I was so mad. Natalie said, you know, he, But if I heard correctly, what she actually said was, I don't think my dad won't choose you, which is a double negative, which means she's saying, yeah, it's out there that he could choose you. I think Maxime, his son, you know, they know their dad. I think the most touching thing for me, I know I sound sort of, you know, sarcastic or whatever, but I thought he showed a lot more emotion to his son, Maxime. You know, I've always loved you. Like, I'm not hearing that to Joan.

I'm hearing that to his son. Well, that's his family. How about that little grandson with the little tooth in the front? Oh my God, I want to take him home with me. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You said that's his family. If he's on here to find love, Joan would become his family.

Well, yes, understood. But to open up on TV and talk to your family, yes, you're going to say those things. Okay. I mean, I just, listen, I'm sure Pascal is a nice guy. I'd love to meet him, but I don't think Joan is. is his woman. I don't think he's her guy. I think he's interesting, great TV for some people. I did find it interesting that Joan said he lives epic like John did. I think that's what attracts her to Pascal. He has money. He takes charge. He'll fly on a jet to Paris. He's going to do all those

things. And that's quote, epic living like I guess her husband tweeted her. But other than that, I don't see the connection with those two. I really don't. That's your opinion. Which guess what, Susan? You're allowed. But you know what? It makes him available for you. Yeah, absolutely. And I love Chicago. I used to live there. So, two Chicago dates. Two Chicago days. Two Chicago, moving on to Jordan. Do you love it? Okay. I'm just going to, I've got to say one thing about Jordan. In short, he is not ready to commit. And in fact, I was not surprised at all that he was sent home. not at all he he just as clearly said i don't think he is ready or at least during filming i think he wants to be ready but he's not 100% or or perhaps now this is a perhaps jones isn't the right

woman it's possible when you really feel it you're going to say it yeah well i also think you know he said he had walls up joan mentioned it too walls up not open to the process i think that's very true you and I've talked about this we believe in the process that's why we would love to have had a second chance it can work i don't think it's working for jordan and and joan um and joan again you know she's talking about the fun time literally those were her words i have such a fun time with him that is not that's all she said and the kissing the kissing was not oh the kissing that is not the stuff of romance and falling in love and being engaged i just let me ask you something kathy When you're dating somebody

I can't remember Wait a minute, wait a minute When you're dating someone Let me rewind my mind Okay, I'm there You didn't do a lot of dating Because you got married so young So you might not get this

But when I'm dating somebody The best part is the kissing I look forward to the kiss No I mean I look for it's the whole intimate thing It's the kissing I'm not finished yet All right I look forward to the kiss

That somebody knows how to kiss So you have to, if you will, make out to see if that vibe is there, that connection is there. Can I just say? That chemistry is there. And she is not making out with any of them except for chalk. I agree with all that. A tiny bit with Pascal in another episode. But that's as a tell-all to me, watching her Kissy said.

To me, first of all, I just want to say, I'm very impressed with you, Susan. While you struggle to know what hooking up means, you've got making out down. so congratulations. You're showing your age. I think that I agree with you to a point. Wait, they don't say making out anymore? What do I? Come on, Cap, what would you know?

You got married at 12 and you know what? You don't have a boyfriend. So come on. I'm going to teach you, Cal. You're not teaching me to make out. Thank you very much. I can do just fine on myself. Thank you very much.

But I think that these other guys, including Jordan, you know, they love their kids. they talk about you know Jordan talked about his divorce from 10 years ago these are people that have had rich lives they've had ups and downs just like we've had but I think in this case there just isn't that connection with Joan and I think Jordan when she sent him home last night I don't think he looks sad he I think you know maybe he was a little embarrassed or whatever that he was. He didn't look too upset. And then she walked him out. She walked him out and they didn't have much to say out there. It was really nice getting to know you. Yep. Okay. But you know what? Well, that was pretty obvious. Yeah, but you know what? Listen, wouldn't you rather have that

than a broken heart? Wouldn't you rather have, you know what? Yeah. Maybe he'll be the next golden bachelor. He could be. He could be. But the point is, I love the fact that they both. seem to realize and put it out there on national television bachelor nation jordan's a great guy but he wasn't for her and she wasn't for him um you know i i i think i think it was a great episode in terms of we're narrowing it down really quickly um but you and i'm still envious man that she seems to have found a man she loves i can't wait for the men tell all to you know to see with all the people that chuck had there that was beautiful too he's got a lot of friends Yeah. Family friends and what they plan at that show. That was so beautiful. Isn't that what you like about this show though? We see family. We see it's not just two young people falling in love and, you know, picking up and moving to New York City. It's people that have lives and have loved. And how about the dad? Was he, wasn't he the father-in-law?

Kathy's dad. Oh my gosh. Yeah. He was special. Oh, and he just, you know, he just, he told him, you're in love. He looked at him and said, I see. see it in your eyes. And he wasn't quite ready. He wasn't quite ready to actually say the words. He said everything else around. Who were we talking about chalk? Yes. But right then, as he walked her, as he walked her to the car. Yeah. That's when he said it. He said, I love you? Yes. You know what? I must have been taking a sip of vodka. I did not hear that. I did not. I miss that. He finally opened up. He said, I love you? He, she felt it. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to rewind it. Listen, if that, if he said that, after sitting with his father-in-law, and he wasn't denying how he felt.

His father or his father? I'm confused now. Who was he sitting with? The older man. That's Kathy's father or his father? No, I thought it was Kathy's father. Okay. Well, he wasn't married to Kathy. Oh, who's Kathy? So when he was engaged to, for like eight or nine years and she passed away, they never did married. That was her dad? Yes, yes, because she passed away. I'll check with my writers, but I think so. Anyhow, that father, he's the one that said, I'm looking in your eyes.

I see it in your eyes that you're in love with her. You're in love. And that's when I feel like he finally accepted it and he was able to say it. Yeah, I loved, I noticed that Joan needed to hear it from any of them or all of them for her to make that decision yeah i don't know i found it touching um i found it very touching that kathy's dad a was there it shows that he has such a strong relationship with chalk or seemingly so but also that they were he was so welcoming to joan like those are the little nuggets of the show that that i feel like they captured it you know they caught the love of older people and what it

means to have a relationship with an older person. You know, we have our children. We have grandchildren. We have friends. In Chalk's case, he has this woman that he, you know, came that close to marriage with. And so her dad, Kathy's dad, is such an important part of his life. I love those parts of the show. I love that. That's what gives it a real, you know, it brings back the love. It brings back the hope that we all have for the future. Absolutely. But it just breaks my heart. When she walked in there and there was three roses and four men, I get it. Somebody's got to go

home. And the worst part is yet to come. If the overnight, somebody's got to go home, you know? Yeah. Well, that just breaks my heart. Susan, the sooner they go home, the sooner we get to meet them. What's wrong with you? My

boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former

professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me

for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? many of them are in fear of their political lives and that's been part of the challenge but we continue to say to them you were elected to defend your constituents to stand up for your constituents and there's life after congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the house of representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. So wait.

So you know how they have the coming shows and then they'll put on the bottom. If you want to be a part of the next season, please fill out your app. I almost downloaded it. I want to apply again. You think they'll accept me for the next bachelor? I think you and I should do it together. All right, Kathy, it's time for our question of the day. So are you ready?

Oh, I am so ready. Okay. You want me to read it or are you going to read it? So what's something you did as a parent that you're incredibly proud of? Just one, though, Kath, not everything. one thing that you did as a parent that you're incredibly proud of. I was going to make a funny joke, Susan and say, I got three kids to adulthood without, you know, murdering anyone.

But what I would say is, and the truth is, I'm incredibly proud that all three of my children give back to their community. They all, they either have jobs where they, you know, give back or they all find time to give back to their community. And I think that's beautiful. That's beautiful. What about you? um first and foremost all three of my children believe in god that we instilled that in them and

they were able to choose what type of religion they wanted to practice or whatever but they they got that here at home and i was really wanting to say no wait really wanting to say that they all know how to clean but they don't do it so i guess i did you know what you and i share that And cook. Susan and I are both really very clean, neat, and tidy, organized people. And some of our children are, and some of our children were raised by bears in the woods. Although Britney's trying to cook, I think Nick really took up the cooking part because he'll come over and ask me, Mom, how do you make that again? And he does it. So that's kind of cool. And they're all great parents, well, two of them. Wait, can I just tell you? As, you know, we beat this one to death. I don't cook very much.

I can cook a little bit. Do you know that my daughter and my son, two of my three children are really good cooks. No, and really good cooks. The next time I visit, I'm going to their house. I'm just saying. What's the matter? You don't like my frozen macaroni and cheese? You did not serve that.

You do not serve that. You do not. All right. Let's get into these fam questions. It's our favorite time. We love this. All right, here we go. Question number one.

This is from Marissa, who is 43, from. Chula Vista, California. Hi, Kathy and Susan. Hope you are both doing well. I wanted to write in about an issue I'm having with my partner. We have been together for two years and just moved in together earlier this year. Something I've noticed only since we started living together is that when he gets angry, he gives me the silent treatment. The silent treatment really doesn't work for me because I have no idea what he's feeling and what he's upset about. It just makes me anxious and spiral as I'm someone who needs to talk things out. I feel like it's just really childish and we need to have better communication if we're going to last for the long haul and possibly get married.

I brought it up with him and he says he will try to be better, but it seems to only have gotten worse. Do you think this is a major red flag and or a deal breaker for us? If not, how do you think we can work through this. Any advice is welcome. Thank you, ladies, and love your podcast. Well, thank you, Marissa, for reaching out to us. So this is like a two-part thing for me, Kathy. Okay.

A, she did bring it up to him that it doesn't work for her. I get that. B, sometimes if you know that's who he is and he has to do that silent thing for him, when he's ready, he will discuss it. Now, when I put myself in her shoes, I feel the same way. I would haunt him like, okay, I get your silent treatment. What the hell's on your mind?

What do you want to talk about? Let's talk about it. Because if it goes on too long, then I'm pissed off. And I don't even know why I'm pissed off. I'm pissed off because you're silent. Do you know what I mean? So try and sit him down again, have a really serious conversation. Like, babe, let's plan on, you can only give me the silent.

treatment for three hours after that, I'm going to go crazy. What do you think? Well, I actually somewhat agree with you. I think that when some people just need time to cool off, to ponder, meditate, whatever it is they do to process whatever's happened. The danger is, and I think that's where Marissa is going here, is my husband was a guy that would process it. it internally and then it was over and he didn't want to talk about it. I know Susan you'll be shocked to know that I wanted to talk things out. So that was the problem. It's not that you have to do it right in the moment, but oftentimes it seems that people who want to, you know, not talk about it in the moment really are saying they don't want to talk about it at all.

so marissa my advice to you would be let him have excuse me you notice where she said she never noticed it until they moved in together so obviously that's just how you wouldn't even know like you just made a great point he might have gotten over it by the time he saw her again exactly they weren't living exactly might not even be her right might be upset about something else right but but the point is if i marissa is probably a lot like me she wants to know what he's upset about whether it's Exactly. So, Marissa, my advice to you would be, you know, Susan's right. Give it some amount of time. But the communication I would have is that he needs to communicate with you at some point what he's angry about, where his head is, how we got from A to B. Because otherwise, it's just going to cause you distress. And then you're going to become resentful. So, you know, give him his space and then say, we've got to. to talk about it. And it's our three Cs, correct? Kathy? Communicate. Yeah. Committed. Compassion. Yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting. They're having these issues that they've moved in and she said for the long

haul and maybe even marriage. So I'm not sure how committed this is at this point. But Marissa, I wish you all, that we both wish you all the best. And let us know. And it may not be as bad as she thinks, right? Right. Is it a major red flag? No. You know, it's not a major red flag. It's only a major red flag if you two cannot come to an understanding about how you're going to communicate about issues. That's when it becomes a major red flag. I agree. Hey, Kathy and I agree again. I don't know what's happening here. But thank you, Marissa. I think there's an eclipse outside. We're agreeing too much. All right. We have question number two, and this is from Alice, who is 27 from Spokane, Washington. Golden Hour podcast, hello.

My name is Alice, and I have a question for you. I am in a new relationship with a great guy. He checks all my boxes and seems to be what I've been looking for in a partner. Well, that sentence right there just gave me goosebumps. Well, hold your breath because read the next sentence. I like the first part. The only problem is he keeps bringing up his ex. Oh, God.

They broke up years ago, and he really does seem to be over her. He just keeps bringing her up casually. like if we go somewhere we went or if there's a funny story I have told him that it bothers me and that I don't want to hear about his past because it takes me out of the present and us being together he says he understands but has still brought her up a few times since do you think this means he's not over her I really can't tell and my friends say it seems like he's obsessed with me.

So maybe he just is someone who is a little too nostalgic. Curious about your thoughts on this. Thank you, ladies. I think he's a creature. If we agree on this one, I got to say if they broke up a long time ago and he's still talking about her, he has either not had a life in between dating her and meeting this one. So all he has to talk about is his ex from 10 years ago because apparently he had no life between her and meeting this new one, Alice.

But I don't think it's a red flag, but it does concern me that he talks about her a lot, particularly when you said it makes you uncomfortable and he says he understands and then he keeps doing it. So I don't know, what do you think? Do you think it's a creature of habit? Like maybe he's familiarized, oh my gosh, I remember doing this with her or she didn't say. say like he's complaining about her just that he talks about her. I'd like to know what it is he's talking about. Like, do you really care? Wait, do you really care? I guess, I don't know. I don't know if it would bother me. Oh, well, let me just paint a little picture for you. I, and you know this story. I went out on a date with a guy whose wife had passed away like three years previous to the

date. All the guy did was, I don't know what her name was, let's call her Susan. All he did Let's talk about Susan. Hold on the whole night. I was like, that I understand. That you feel like, because it's his past, his wife that passed. This one doesn't. This is his past too. Yes, but she's not dead.

Oh, so you, so wait a minute. I think what he, that name was still grieving maybe or still trying to compare. Then he shouldn't be dating. So let me get this right. But we're not talking about him. So it's okay to talk about your dead exes, just not your current. Not constant. Remember on our show, Kathy, when Gary had his wife in the closet, the picture?

And all I kept thinking was, when you pick somebody to be with, I hope you put that picture away. Yeah. Well. Somewhere where he could refer to it maybe, but you have to let go. You don't replace, but you let go and you move on. I mean. But for this case, he says he understands, but has still brought her up a few times. Yeah.

And honey, if you could, tell me in what context he's bringing her up. And that might help me to say, hey, tell him to, you know what? Well, also, if he's made improvement, Alice, let's, you know, if you brought her up all the time in the beginning and now it's just a few times, that's called progress. So give the guy a break. Kathy, would you be like, when he brought it up, say you're that, would you be like, here we go again? I got to hear about her. I mean, try that. Oh, we're playing moral quandary?

No, God, don't even bring him up. Okay, go on. Wait, wait. I just want to say one more thing to Alice. Yes, yes. If this guy ticks all your boxes and he seems perfect, I want to be the first to say mazzled to you and break the bad news to you. He's not perfect. You know why, Alice, there's no such thing as perfect.

So love him and embrace him with all his imperfections. And hopefully he stops bringing up his ex. but he's making progress so stick with that that reminds me kathy of a verse a poem that i sometimes do at a wedding and it starts with he's not perfect and you aren't either but sometimes you meet somebody that was perfect for you oh man susan you should you should chisel that in stone at my front walk okay moving right all right let's move it along this one is for um question from ben he's 36 from Hollywood, Florida. Nice.

I spent a summer in Hollywood, Florida once. Okay, hello, Susan and Kathy. My wife listened to your podcast, and she told me to write into y'all, spoken like a true souther, for some advice because she doesn't know what else to say. So here I am.

We are expecting our first baby early next year, and we are both excited. We just had our little gender reveal party with our family last month, and we found out we're having a boy. we smiled and acted excited with the family but when we got home we both broke down we were really hoping to have a girl and now it feels like we are less excited about the baby and we feel absolutely terrible about that i don't feel like i can talk to my friends about it because whenever i share that i am not as excited about a boy they think i'm crazy i just always saw myself as one of those girl dads i know we will maybe have a girl in the future but i can't shake this soon super disappointed feeling about the kind of family we thought we'd have. My wife said you both have boys and girls. So I was hoping you could give us some advice on how to get excited about a

baby boy. Thank you both. We look forward to hearing what you have to say. Go, Susan, because I got this one. Bless their hearts. Bless their hearts. So I will say this. When that baby comes, you're going to laugh at the feelings that you're having right now because it's something you can't even just put into words. It won't matter. But I get it. You were hoping for something and it was a little disappointing that, oh my gosh, it's not a girl.

All the girl clothes you want to buy, all the things. Usually people get upset when it's not a boy. So this one's a little different for me. No, that's just because you're Italian suits. And most people don't give a damn what they're having as long as there's 10 fingers and can't do. Everybody wants a son to carry on the name, you know, the whole bit. But God bless you.

I just hope that baby's perfectly healthy, and you will never think twice about what you're feeling right now. But it's okay. If you wanted a girl, it's all right. Yeah, here's what I would say to you, it's your first child, and you didn't have to tell me this was your first child with your wife because everything you wrote screams first-time parent.

But here's what I'm going to say to you, if the most important thing and it sounds trite but it really isn't the most important thing is that you have a healthy child that's what matters and whatever god or whatever higher being if you believe in that is going to give you is the best thing ever healthy 10 fingers and 10 toes and here's the thing Susan's right when you hold that baby for the first time and you realize that you and your wife created this child, your heart will expand. I remember I had a son.

My first child was a son and I really wanted a girl the second time and I had another son. And when I held him, I was worried, Ben, I was worried I wouldn't love him as much because, you know, I had a son. I had the perfect son. But you know what happens? You hold that baby and your heart expands. I can't explain it to you, but you love that one as much as the first one.

And so good luck to you. But wait, Kathy, don't you want to say to them, it's all right to have that feeling. Don't be embarrassed. Of course it is. To say, oh, man, I'm disappointed. I was really hoping for a girl, but I can't wait to see my son. I mean, there's nothing wrong. You know, it's okay to feel disappointed.

But as Susan said, it's going to be short-lived because once you hold that baby and the first smile, your son will have you wrapped around his finger back. So get ready. Get ready. Congratulations to you. Both. Let us know how everything goes. And Ben's wife don't ever, ever hesitate to ask us anything.

But I'm glad your husband went and wrote it for you. I really have. Good luck to you guys. That's to both of you. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes. My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his person? professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart

radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jemell Hill, host to the Sports and Politics and Politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, You were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents, and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years.

But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you Open your free IHeartRadio app Search Emergency Intercom And listen now All righty, question number four And this is from Cat

She's 62 And she's from Syracuse, New York Good afternoon, girls I don't really have anything to ask in particular But I was just dumped And thought I turned to my podcast friends for some love. I was in a fairly new relationship. I was super excited about the, for the first time since my late husband passed. It had been years since I dated, and I was so

happy to be feeling those butterflies again. Then about nine months in, he just dumped me and blindsided me out of nowhere. He didn't give me much of a reason, just said he realized that he didn't want to be tied down. And she quotes, what 70-year-old man says this? I have an answer for that. Now, we haven't talked in a few weeks, and I'm just totally heartbroken. I can barely sleep or eat or get out of the house right now. I was so excited about finding love again. Any words of wisdom or love for a broken heart are welcome. Love you girls lots and just wanted a virtual hug. I am sending the biggest, we are sending the hugest part of your way. You, we are.

Let me just say, Kat, first of all, I'm so sorry about the loss of your husband. You know, I'm living that life too. What 70-year-old man says this? What, you know, he doesn't want to be tied down? Probably a guy, you don't say, but either he was divorced or single. Whatever his situation was, he likes the idea. This doesn't reflect on you, Kat. That's what I want you to hear.

He is obviously enjoying his freedom, his newfound, whatever it is he's doing, and either he just wants to keep it that way, or, and that has no reflection on you, or he dated you for nine months and he decided, you know what? Maybe that's when he realized he didn't want to be tied down. Or maybe you're not the right one, and you know what, Cap, that's okay. It's okay that you're not the right one for him. you're going to meet a lot of guys who aren't right for you. So we, you know, I love you. We love you. I'm sorry you have a broken heart. It will get better. It will. Get out and get out and do things, though, Kat. Do not sit on your sofa, just, you know, moaning, but moaning the fact that you guys are broken up. Get out. Get up. Move. You'll feel better. What do you think, Susan? And what I want

to share is, I get it. What an asshole that he blindsided you just when you thought things were great. it sucks it hurts you got to pick up the pieces you can't go crazy trying to get him back because then we look foolish and trust me i've done these foolish things and i'm so happy now today that i've overcame some of these things that i would do because i wouldn't understand why what was it something i said did i do something don't even ask obviously it's not the right one and it does sting and i'm glad you reached out to us because we would hug you Wait, but Susan, I have a question. I have a question. Do you think I know she

feels blindsided? I know Kat feels blindsided. But I'm guessing, you know, the guy's not necessarily a jerk. He may have been a feel, wait, he may have been feeling undecided and maybe started pulling away a little bit

and because she wanted it so much she didn't read the room. We do that. When we want something, I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying we don't know. I'm saying we don't know. So Kat, maybe he was struggling for the last few months to find a way to tell you and you were just so happy you didn't want to see it. But either way, it doesn't matter.

He's not the right guy for you. Please pick yourself up. Go get your hair. It's still a big outch, though. It is a big out. It just stinks. It does stink. But you know what?

Sitting around and telling yourself how awful you feel and, you know, life did me wrong is not going to get her to a better place. So, Kat, get up. Time does, though. Time does. Time does. Time and find some new clothes. Go shopping, Cat. Retail therapy. That would be me. Retail therapy. Get your hair done. Go get your nails done. Or, you know, when you get under somebody else, you'll get over that. Listen, Kat, I will be in Auburn, New York for Christmas because that's where my son-in-law's family lives. So if you need a shopping buddy, let me know. I'll take you out. We'll paint the town white. And you'll be less. Kathy, go to dinner and drinks with her. I'll do the shopping. Thank you. But thank you for writing it and sharing and my heart goes out to you.

All right, Kathy, it's time for a game today. And guess what I'm so excited about? We're switching things up. It's not that game. Wait a second. Just for our listeners, I would like you to know, there is no shock and awe here for Susan saying we're switching things up. All Susan's done is bitch, moan and complain to the producers about how much she hates moral quandary

See? She's still She's still You all can't see it She's making a face So So what could these Life Advice Roulette?

That's right What could these Wonderful producers do But make you happy So let's get going And play life Advice We're going to take turns

Reading some common pieces of advice Some of which are hot takes And we will each discuss if we agree Or we disagree and why you want to read the first one kathy all right yeah i got it i got it all right you agree or

disagree sometimes it's okay to settle you don't always need to chase the perfect situation good enough can be just fine for example romantic relationships you agree or disagree i disagree and you know what i like about this game because i get to say what i think about me i can't guess what somebody else is And I failed. I came for a few. Thank the producers again, Susan. Thank you, producers. Yeah, yeah, got. My golden hour producers.

I love each and every one of you today. Okay, I think sometimes it is okay to settle, but not when it comes to a romantic relationship. Well, then you don't agree with. But wait a minute. Well, no, it says, it says, you don't always need to chase the perfect situation. Listen, Susan, there are no perfect men. We, you and I've talked about this. Nobody said perfect man. We're talking about a perfect romance or relationship.

I'm saying there is no perfect romance or relationship. We all settle. What are you willing to put up with? We've all talked about it. So settling, I think that's the wrong word. It's, if you know that it's not something you want and something you can't live with, then you're settling. But, you know, if I want a tall, dark, and handsome guy with a thick head of hair and I meet a tall guy. with a bald head. Am I settling?

Hell no. Right? That's all I'm saying. It depends on what it is. All right. You do the next one. All right. You don't have to love your job. It's okay to just like it. Not everyone finds passion and work, and that's okay. Absolutely agree. And I'll tell you why. I love my jobs. Yes, but some people find their love and passion in their volunteer work, in their family life. That's their thing.

sure right so you don't have to just like your job okay all right oh the next one I wish it was mine oh no it's mine and and I get to give my opinion first fake it until you make it actually works confidence can come through acting like you know what you're doing even when you don't and I'm going to say so strongly that I agree absolutely I knew you would too and you know why because it's the old belief that if you believe in yourself, if I wake up every morning and say, Kathy, you got this, then my behavior and my attitude is going to be that all day long. Absolutely.

So yes, faking it until you make it, friends. Blood is thicker than water. Family is family. And just because you don't get along doesn't mean you cut ties. Oh, that's a tough one. It depends on what that family member did, but they're right. Family is family. It's blood. You just learn to deal and you accept things that you cannot change. So that sounds like something out of a Norman Rockwell album that you dug up.

I think alcoholism, that's one of the steps or something except the things you cannot change. You have people in AA. That was one of the things I learned from my ex-husband going through it. What? What did you learn? Family is family. Well, great. Yeah, and vanilla milk is vanilla milk. What's your point? My point is that just because you cannot change. Yes, but you don't, how much time do you have to spend with the family that you don't like? I'll be very honest with you. I come from a large family and I don't spend a lot of time.

Granted, we live in very different states. Most of my family lives in Massachusetts. You know, I see my brother in California and I'm very close with my sister who lives in Ottawa, Canada. But the rest of them, I don't really see that much. Okay, but the word's just saying, a family is family, and just because you don't get along, doesn't mean you cut the ties. So if you didn't get along, would you cut ties completely? Well, I got one sister. I'm thinking about it.

Well, yeah, you've had a different child the most I will say. Let's move on to the next one. Okay, I know. You don't have to be a morning person to be successful. Productivity isn't tied to waking up early. Night owls can thrive too. Absolutely. I suppose, but I like to be the morning.

Listen, you better believe this, Susan. If you're a night nurse that works the 11 to 7 shift, you better believe it. I guess anything got to happen. All right. Excuse me. You don't need to forgive someone to move on. Letting go of resentment doesn't always mean offering forgiveness. Whoa, this was meant for me.

Well, good. What do you think? Letting go of resentment is really difficult. I do need to forgive, even though it'll always be, I may still always resent, but I have to tell myself that I forgive somebody for something to move on. I can't open myself for new if I'm not past the, I mean, we're talking relationships, right? Yeah, well, I don't think it's necessarily just relationships, but I think I do, because that's what we're talking about. well okay but i i in other words you can't move on if you're still resenting somebody no i agree with you if you res i agree but i also think if we're talking about relationships you can this is something

i had to learn you can forgive someone for bad behavior or or some some issue that occurred but that doesn't mean you need to go back a lot i've met people who think well i forgave him or i forgave her so i can jump back in for me those don't go hand in hand i think that being able to move on requires that you're able to forgive and let go of the resentment but sometimes people take that as a pass i forgave him yeah right letting go of resentment doesn't always mean offering forgiveness. So I think, yeah, we want to say we're forgiven, but we might not deep down inside. Because if you're hurt that bad, that's tough.

Let me just tell you, I have let go of all the resentment, and I have forgiven you for every transgression. Whatever. All right. Go on. Oh, this is a good one. For you, this is perfect. Go.

Money can buy happiness to an extent. financial security and comfort ran significantly improve quality of life do you agree or not i mean money makes it easier sometimes but then you want bigger and better things so it's not always that that's a hard one financial security and comfort can improve the quality of life it doesn't say it always does but i think that it's a no-brainer it absolutely can and people who have to serious illnesses, you know, who have the financial means to, excuse me, who have the financial means to fight that illness because they have that money. Financial security can, you know, a lot of issues in marriage come. Are over money. Yeah, over money. So, yeah, I think it absolutely

can. All right, your partner doesn't have to be your best friend. Different relationships serve different purposes. It's okay if they're not your everything. I can tell you for me, I love the concept of having a partner to be my best friend. That's all I live for. But I don't, my husband and I were not best friends. We knew each other, but I had lots of girlfriends. Yeah. I can't, so I have never experienced that, have you? I want my best friend. That's what I do too. I want my best friend. I do too. I want my best friend. Like, I look at Lottie and Ray, and they're best friends, and they both have friends outside the marriage. They're just, they like to have the perfect marriage to me.

But, well, excuse me, they have what? The perfect marriage. No, they do not have the perfect. I said to me. When I look at them as a couple, to me, that, it's perfect. They get along, they're fun together. Okay. You don't owe anyone an explanation for your life choices.

Just because someone asks doesn't mean you. need to explain yourself. Wholeheartedly agree. Wholeheartedly. I mean, if it's your husband or wife or partner asking you, yeah, you probably owe an explanation. Other than that, not feeling like chatting about it. All right. You don't have to hate someone just because your best friend does. People's conflicts are their own and you can form your own opinions and relationships. Duh. True to that. True, it is. All right. Well, that was way more fun than, go ahead.

Say it, Kath. The game I'm seriously missing called Moral Quandry. I hope they bring it back soon. It was my favorite. But, of course, you know, whatever Kathy wants, Susan gets. Okay. Whatever. That does it for this episode.

That was fun. Happy hour. Thanks for joining us. That one's so much better than that moral. So everybody. be sure to submit your questions to us at bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Wait, wait, Susan, could you ask them? Could we ask people to please write in their votes?

Do they want to see more moral quandary or more? Oh, yes, please do. People, please agree with me. I'll come find you. And thank you guys for listening to us. I hope you're enjoying it as much as we are. We love giving you advice. We love your comments.

So please keep them coming. And in the meantime, we hope you will listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. That's us. See you next time. Take care. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics,

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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