Bachelor Happy Hour - Stuck in the Middle | Golden Hour

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re getting into some of your fan questions! We kick off today’s episode reminiscing on Joan and Chock’s lovely engagement; the ladies are so happy for their Golden bestie! Then, we get into our question of the day: When were our hosts faced with an uphill battle in their youth and how did they persevere? And, of course, we dive into your questions. From being stuck in the middle of your bestie’s relationship to breaking toxic cycles, we’re covering it all. Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, we're back. Hey, we're back. Thanks for joining us on Golden Hour. Hey, Kathy. How are you? I can't believe we're in person again. We get to stare at each other and really talk like we know. I love this.

Like real people. Like real people are having a conversation. We just, we need empty coffee cups. Oh, gosh, that was so funny. Hey, you guys out there listening to us. Like, we wanted to get that in, and we were afraid in the morning because we were going out the night before that it would be bad. So we did a video, and yes, Bachelor Nation, you are all so smart.

Very, very smart. But to be fair, the coffee was brewing. And it was lavazz. And it was. That's right. So we were doing our thing. And Susan, I don't know about you, but now that it's over and shown is engaged to chalk. But you know what?

I saw that the whole. entire time. Who didn't? I know. People I'm sure you had people come up to you and say, Kathy. All the time. Who is? And who? I said, did you watch the show? I know, right? I figure it out. I don't know. I'm just, I'm just thrilled. I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled for her. It's, it's, you know, Christmas time.

Do you believe it's December? What do you think they're doing for Christmas? Oh, I don't know, but I know I'm a little behind. I'm a little behind. Oh, Christmas shopping. It's overrated. Totally overrated. All right. What are we doing today, Kathy? I don't know. We're going to do a question of the day. We're going to do some questions. And you know the drill right but before susan we're going to do the question of the day which i don't even understand so i'm going to read it and maybe you can explain it all right i'll do that for you all right here we go when

you were younger which in your case was yesterday uh-huh sure uh what was the time that you were faced with a really big uphill battle that you were wary about overcoming and ultimately persevered What advice do you have for anyone stuck in a difficult time in their lives? An uphill battle? I mean, I got won. I was fearful of not making the cheerleading squad. Did you persevere and say rah-rah team, kick them in the knees, rah-rah. I used to compete in gymnastics.

Did you really? Yeah, I went states. There's a lot you still don't know. Guys, I feel like Susan and I are really close friends. And then she pops out with something. I'm like, damn, I did not know that. Okay, the only thing I can think of is, as many people know, I used to weigh 200 pounds. I can't believe that?

Okay, this is a true story. Wait, can I just say something? Please don't get mad. Oh, here it comes. I mean, seriously, she constantly says, I'm fat. Have you seen, Kathy? I think you have body. Dismorphia.

Moving right along with the question of the day. So is that an uphill battle for you? Well, I'll tell you why it was. Yes, I couldn't. Yeah, I just kept eating and gaining weight. And what did you do? Well, here's what happened. I went to visit my sister who, I graduated high school early.

So she's a super brain. Thank you. So I went to visit my sister, who was the year older than I, and she was in college. And we went to this party, and this guy was standing around the corner, and this really handsome basketball player, my sister said, what do you think of my sister? What do you think of Kathy? And he said, she's really funny and nice and so pretty, but she's so. so large i went home that's what did it that's what did it i went home on a diet i went home

started a diet and never stopped that's why she walks 10 miles a day still to this day it's all it's all your fault jim it's all your that was his name jim it's all your fault anyway that's i mean and that's why i overcame it i put my mind to it so my advice to anyone because you don't have a great appetite i have to admit you do i like food i just don't like a lot of food you don't like I don't listen I don't eat to survive right that's right some people eat to survive or live to live live to live yes I eat to live total opposites that's right Susan has chicken piccotta at midnight because she needs a late night snack wait a minute though I want to just say the advice that I have for anyone stuck at a difficult time in their life take one small step at a time and don't give up yeah don't give up take one small step because I remember when I was losing what weight back in those days and I would lose like a half a pound in a week and you were depressed

over that I was I was like but you get paid every day no once a week I got weight and one but here's the thing I remember the person saying to me but Kathy you lost a half a pound you didn't gain a half a pound and those half pounds added up and sure enough did you go someplace like a weight watchers and I did I did I know people still I did I did and it good for you You know, change your life. So people, one step, but thank you. Yeah. So it is scary, no matter what the situation is.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I think you just have to persevere, try your best. You're not going to succeed at everything. I was at Jim Croce's Barn. Okay, that's where the- For those of you who don't know, Jim Cochie was a fabulous singer, singer-songwriter back in the 70s. And it was haunted.

And I kid you not, it was haunted. And Sharon and I, we did a duo on the uneven. bars. I swear to God, another thing I don't know about you, but go ahead. She was scared and she goes, Susan, did you just see? I said, Sharon, we know it's haunted. They're nice. I was never afraid.

Isn't that crazy? So you didn't have to, what the hell does that have to do? The question. Okay. So during this competition, I slipped and was so humiliated. I mean, I'm at States. And you have a second to think about it. And you've got to jump right back on.

Let me tell you, if I could jump right back on anybody that's going through this, just take a breath and get back at it. Yeah, it's, you know, the only thing to fear is fear itself. All those adages are true for a reason. But I tell you, it is scary. Sometimes I get it. It is. And you know what?

We're not always going to succeed. We're not. So don't get that in your head, guys, that you have to succeed at everything. The best you can do is try, persevere. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But see, what? After you read this, then you understood what it is. said, right? I didn't have to help her at all. She got it. I had to read it like three times.

Thank you, Susan. Okay, where we have some good questions today, Kathy. Okay. You go for it. Give me the first one. I'll do the first one. Then Michael asks, hi, Kathy and Susan. I'm a big fan of your podcast and I really could use your advice. I'm getting so sick of being in the middle of my friend's relationship. Two people from my friend group started dating about six months ago and I feel like I'm constantly in the middle of their relationship. I want to be a supportive friend to each of them, but it's really starting to get exhausting. How do you think I should settle this with them?

I feel like they come to me because I met them both separately and formed my own relationship with each of them before we became part of this bigger friend group. I don't want to completely abandon them, but I'm starting to lose my mind. Please help. So I wonder if he's saying that they bitch about the relationship. Is that what they're doing to him?

I'm guessing that each one comes to them and says, you know. He does this. I can't believe he did this. Can I tell you? Like many of these questions, you and I've lived long enough, that I've been in this situation. And you know what I did, Michael? I went to each one of them separately.

And I said with their name, you know, let's call it John and Susan. John, I love you. We're friends. I've known you a long time, but I don't want to be in the middle of your relationship. You've got to be honest about it, right? So let's keep our friendship, our friendship. I want to go out with us in our groups, but I really don't want to hear. You have to communicate your boundary.

You have to set a healthy boundary. And if you tell both of them how you feel, you should be good to go. Yeah, for me, I would be in trouble because I don't keep secrets. And I'd be telling each of the other. Well, guess what? Can I just say first. He has the same problem you're griping about right now. So you guys need to go settle this on your own.

I'm out of it. Susan gave y'all a little tidbit about me. Now I'm going to give you a little tidbit about Susan. This is the... Can't keep a secret. Can't keep a secret. Literally, someone can tell Susan, do not on your life. Wait, wait, Kathy.

Just last night she was about to tell me something. She goes, now, listen, you can't share this. I said, please don't tell me, Kathy. I said, no, I think the way it went was I said, oh, wait a minute. forgot who I'm talking to. I cannot tell you. No, I asked you not to tell me. I'm going to train you, Susan. I'm going to train you. Oh, I don't know. I'm 67 now. Kathy, you think it's going to change. Hey, guess what? We have another one. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Overcoming and ultimately persevering a problem. There you go. Okay. The second question, but hey, Michael, good luck.

Seriously, let us know how it goes, but don't let them. Just be real, Michael, or even get them together and do it. I love the both of you. Yeah. I really do. And I don't want to be the one that gives the wrong advice or, you know, I can listen, but it's annoying. No, no, no, you don't. That's where you get to trouble. Set the boundary, Michael. Set the healthy boundary and you'll be amazed. Thanks for asking our advice.

I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they? won't say publicly. Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can

keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, We're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.

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I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club. I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get?

get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club. A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, the next song, uh, next song. I'm going to start singing. You want to dance. I'm going to start, you know, I left my heart in San Francisco. Okay, Sarah writes, hi Kathy and Susan, I could really use your help right now. My best friend Carly has been dating her boyfriend, Jack, for a little over six months. I really, really don't like him. Carly has a history of dating men that are really toxic and honestly a little scary.

Jack has already broken up with her two times in their relationship, and they always end up getting back together the next day. What can I say to Carly to get her to understand that she's kind of. constantly in a toxic cycle with men, and I can't do it anymore. I don't want to give up on our friendship, but I just can't keep giving her the same advice, listening to the same sob story and then it all repeating when she goes back to them or chooses someone exactly like the last guy. I feel her pain. Oh, this is so easy for me.

I feel her pain. You got to see a red flag when it's a red flag. That's part of it, but she's making bad choices. and you keep repeating the same mistakes. Isn't that the definition of insane? Yeah, but you're missing the question here. Carly didn't write in. Carly didn't write in.

Sarah did. Sarah, you know what the answer is? You can't change Carly. Carly has to want to change herself. All you can do is say, Carly, I love you. We're going to be friends, but here's my boundary.

Another question with boundaries. My boundary is we're not going to talk about Sam, Joe, any of the toxic guys we're going to get together and have girlfriend time you just have to tell her you don't want to hear it relationship business to yourself i can't hear it anymore yeah i mean there's and you know you might feel like that's not being a supportive friend i would argue it is being a supportive friend maybe that's what will take for carly to realize what a bad situation she's in and sarah i ask you ask yourself have you sat down with her have you shared what you're sharing with us. That's all it needs to be. You need to say exactly what you said to us to her.

Yeah. So she sees it. Well, I think even if she's done it, I think when if Carly's in these toxic relationships, she probably does fine for a day or two. And then they break up and then she, you know, she's a repetitive cycle. It's a repetitive cycle. It's not Sarah's problem. It's not your problem. Here should be your problem, Sarah. Go out and scout the neighborhood. Find yourself what. for a good guy for yourself don't give up on your friendship if you guys have been friends that long just be honest with her yeah honestly said too great it's tough saying things sometimes that are honest and it stings a little but how many times to our questions and the vice and people writing in come down to it's it's not that difficult folks it's uncomfortable it's uncomfortable you have to

communicate your thoughts you have to set boundaries you have to to sometimes look elsewhere you have to sometimes put a friendship up on the shelf for a little while but you know the only times i think in my lifetime that i backed away from a good friend wait a minute are you warning me is this a warning now is when they're negative and this sounds a little negative like she's always complaining i can't deal with people that don't see the half of the glass half full or looking at the doomsday always looking at the worst that could happen instead of the best that could happen. Yeah, but Susan, wait, I know you really well,

and I absolutely agree with what you just said, but you get down, and I support you, when I get down, you support me. I think the operative word here is when it's constantly negative. When it's always, yeah, because you are very supportive. We all are entitled to a moment or a day even or a couple days.

All right, a week, a month. No, no, not that long. We'd go on vacation first. Okay, moving right along. Let's talk to Nina. All right, go ahead. this says hi kathy and susan i need your help with something a little silly all right we could do silly i've been with my boyfriend for about three years and we've been living together for the past year

he and i both have a physical touch love language oh here we go with the love language i swear i'm going to take it off the shelves go ahead sorry okay we have a physical touch love language so we both love to cuddle however when we go to bed i like a quick cuddle while we start to unwind and then I like my space when I sleep. He loves to cuddle me in his sleep and it's driving me nuts. He also is a really loud snorer. How do I go about asking to fix the snoring and the smothering without hurting his feelings? Also, if you have any tips on how to deal with snores, that would help too. L.O.L. Love you ladies. Oh my goodness. Well, the snoring's easy. You get them a CPAP machine and tell them. No, they're horrible. It's that thing that goes

inside. You know what? I don't know how old they are. Did she say how old they are? You can get your own room when it's time to go to sleep. Well, wait a second. You can't fix snoring. I mean, well, you can see medical help. I mean, there are things. Right. There's things you can do, but she can't fix it. She can't fix it. Yeah. I mean. But the cuddling, I am a cuddler, and I have one of the same love languages. I like physical touch. However, whenever when you get to be my age and the night sweat started you're like okay that's enough now get on your side and just be honest i love you sweetie now get on your space and i'll get on my space you know what i used to do what i used to i feel your pain nina i used to when we'd go

to bed my husband i would cuddle both of us like our own i would pretend i can't move admitting this oh no one's listening to susan just here i would pretend i was asleep and roll over like because i was sleeping time but he sounds like he's going right after her and spooning her i get hot i mean i think i don't think you're going to hurt his feelings if you'd just say i need my sleep and as far as the snoring that's an issue i gave my husband those strips breathe right strips and put over that kind of helped a little bit sometimes sometimes have sleep on his side not his back yeah sleeping on your back oh if he's on his back i'll shake him cap cap susan that's violent cap that's violent

All right. Well, good luck, sweetie. Good luck, me. Let us know how the snoring goes. Good luck. Okay. Our next question is an anonymous one. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I want to know how I can convince my boyfriend to get a dog. He didn't grow up with pets, so he's really not used to having an animal around to care for. I grew up with dogs, and I really miss having one around. We've been together for about four years, and we've been living together for two. We haven't really talked about it. And they're really. in anonymous lies the problem you haven't talked about it but let me continue we haven't really talked about it because i only just started thinking seriously about getting in a dog how do you think i should bring this up to him hey joe i've been thinking i'd really like to get a dog what do you think now you don't even want to know what i do oh no we i'd come home with the cutest puppy you ever seen in your yes i would i have you would bring a dog home a puppy a gorgeous little baby are you the same one that would tell your husband i can never have children and then get pregnant or dating them you know say we're dating dogs i don't well dog kids i mean seriously i mean she's right

you should communicate but i i i do things like that yeah and how can you resist that is is there is this maybe one of the reasons you're divorced How many dogs did you bring on? No, because he actually would have five. He loves animals. You know, it's so funny when my kids were young and they really wanted a dog, we went to the, you know, the shelter. The SPCA.

It was in Austin. It was not called that, but it was a shelter. And Austin Pets Alive. And we went to get a dog. And would you believe they made me call my husband or work? They would not. Yep. Well, now they interview you.

They did interview us. That's when you're adopting them. Yeah. And so they called my husband at work. He thought it was a joke. I mean, he really did. He thought someone was put a joke. It's how I got on fun and said,

Gerald, this is not a joke. We want this dog. So he didn't grow up with dogs. So you never know. He might really like it. I know. He might love it. I'd come home with the cutest puppy he's ever seen.

You know what he's going to say. He's going to think. You're taking care of it. She wants a dog. Exactly. She wants a dog today. next week it's an engagement ring and after that it's a baby

that's what's coming anonymous we know it I hope it's a little tiny dog so he doesn't get too angry listen if you want to get one my advice that you're not asking for is get one that doesn't shed and no dan there nobody's allergic to get one of those little cockapoodle doodle dandel

dandy whatever they're called golden doodles they're big though but no they make many golden doodles they're beautiful and they're nice mannered you know who had a golden doodle Gary from our show. Oh, yes, that's right. That's right.

I feel my friends have them. Golden doodles are very sweet and they don't shed, which will make your house work much easier. Let us know, Anonymous. We want to know the name of the dog. I think you should name it. Kathy should be her first name with the middle name of Susan

or Susan with the middle name of Kathy. Oh, goodness. Good luck, babe. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the sports and politics podcast, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by

basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess.

Like, that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, And sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.

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Get in here! Today, we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like, text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay.

That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Susan, we're going to play a game. Oh, no. Please tell me it's not what I think.

It is. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, but I'm so happy. Again, Susan threatens people around here if she has to play moral quandary. So we're going to play a game of would you rather. Oh, all right. I'll start. Go ahead. Have dinner with your favorite musician or read an unpublished autobiography from your favorite movie star.

Well, that's a no-brainer. Am I supposed to guess what you're doing? That's the... I can guess the minute dinner, that meant food. That's what Susan did. I mean, that was a no-brainer to guess yours. What do you think I would, let's play that. What do you think I would rather do?

You like music. You would go with your musician too. I would too. I think we both would like to read that. I love to read. Had given a choice. But given a choice, man, and you know what? Because you have conversation.

And he or she is going to play a little private, you know. All right, here's the next one. Oh, Lord. Oh, these are easy. You know what? I'm calling it sick for both of these. Actually, I would do one of them. Take a gourmet cooking class together or a creative painting class together. Which do you think I would do now that we're playing this game?

You would probably do the painting class, no? You would do the gourmet because you're going to have to if we go to Sicily because we're doing the food. That's right. No, because, listen, my whole thing about cooking is if you're doing it with someone. Well, I remember at my house, and you said, teach me. And I did, right? Yes, you did. It's just the whole thing of cooking by yourself.

I would take a gourmet cooking class. I would as well. And I know you would. Okay. Own a private art gallery or a private movie theater? Who wants a movie theater? I'd rather go hike six miles. I don't like either.

Well, an art gallery is cool, but then you're stressed because if it's not good and you don't have great things. If you're not selling the artwork. That's what I mean. Yeah, it could be tough. But on the other hand... If you had to pick one. I would do the art gallery. Yeah, me too.

Yeah. And just think about all those cool artists that would be showing you. We get up our house filled with really good artwork. I might meet the man of my dream. Who's an artist. He's not a cool. A starving artist. And I was waiting for you to say that.

Yeah, let's forget the starving artist. I remember being in France right by Notre Dame. And that's where all the starving artists hang out and they sketch you and stuff. And I was like, oh. And I'm like, run, Susan. Susan thought that she was going to meet. You know, some guy wearing a beret and a paintbrush in his teeth. It was going to be a magic day.

It's a turn on. All right. Have a, oh, this is so eat. Oh, I don't know. Okay. Have a garden filled with every flower you love or a greenhouse with every plant you adore. Here I go again. I want both.

I was waiting for it. So here, I'm going to give you a very logical. answer. Yes. I love my flowers. I love flowers. My husband used to bring me flowers every week. Now I buy them for myself often. But they're saying flowers in the ground. I know. But here's the thing. This is a practical answer. Okay. I love flowers, but where I live, they don't bloom me around. And I'm always so sad. Well, there's certain kinds that will. Not in Texas. Yeah, believe it or not, look it up. Cactus. Cactus. Cactus, they do. I know.

But a greenhouse. I have a Christmas cactus. I have one too. And you know what? I used to think it was every year around Christmas. It does. It does it twice a year. Mine doesn't.

Mine does. It does freak me out. That's because it's not sure if you're celebrating Christmas. It's just goes to all the love I give it. All right, moving right along. Have a wardrobe filled with vintage designer pieces or brand new styles. Okay. Can we answer this in unison?

Yes. Brand new styles Every season All right date someone who is always on time But a little boring Or someone who's late But full of surprises

Oh Oh I actually What do you I'm It's not moral quandry I know I don't know I'm thinking what you would do I think you would want the guy Who's late and full of surprises

Absolutely Yeah me too Nobody's ever surprised me All right that's one nation How can we surprise you can't do it I'm newsy, I get my nose and everything. Yes, I'm challenging. You know, on my 70th, you're still going to be around.

It's only three years away. Yeah. I want something big and I want to be surprised. Okay. I can give you a big balloon. Oh, God, she sucks. Thanks a lot. Go on.

All right. I would also like the guy who's late, but full surprises. I mean, all of John's guys that we are now. Okay, boring is not in our vocabulary. I know. I'm sorry. Even when I'm sad, I'm not boring. That's too boring.

I would torture him. All right. Be an extra in a famous movie or be the best friend of a famous celebrity. Well, I'm your friend, so famous celebrity. You're a famous celebrity. You're the famous celebrity. No, I would much rather be the best friend of anyone. Yeah.

Just if you're best friends, how good is that, right? Yeah, I agree. Rather learn to fly a plane. or sell a yacht. I know what I want. What do you want? I want a fly plane. I want both.

Oh, there you go. Be a Susan. I'm being a Susan now. I would like to be on the yacht, but I don't need to drive it. I would like the captain to do that. Can I tell you a fun little story? Yeah. I should probably stick to fly on the plane because when I was in high school,

I went to camp on Martha's Vineyard. And I learned to sail. I was in ninth grade, and if you know New England weather, it can change on a dime. And these were old sailboats. They were called Menemshas, which is an area, I believe, of Martha Jr., anyway, these were old boats. And I took the director of the camp out. I don't know why they did that with me. And there's coming about and jibing.

Well, I jibed when I should have come about. And I sunk. Oh, no, I sunk. Oh, my God. And the Coast Guard had to come and rescue us. with the director of the camp. So I think maybe I should stick to fly in the plane. We're going to try airplanes.

Okay. Have your dream beach. Oh, no, you skipped one. I did. This is a good one. All right, go ahead. Be able to speak every language fluently or play every instrument beautifully. I think I would like both. But if I had to pick one, I would wish I could play instruments.

That's so funny because I would love. love to do both but i think i'd want to speak every language fluently so that when i traveled i could really understand people in their cultures like that too okay have your dream beach house or a fabulous penhouse in the city should we answer this together both yeah but if you had to pick one we want to beach house yeah exactly i had the nice place in the city all of you out there who need house sitters for your beach house susan and i are available and we are neat next i promise trust me it'll be It'll be cleaner when we leave them. Exactly right.

And Susan will leave you chicken paccata in the refrigerator is a thank you gift. All right. Be with someone who writes you. I'm going to cry. I know.

Why are they torturing us? Be with someone who writes you heartfelt letters or surprises you with spontaneous adventures. That's a both again. I know. If you have to pick one.

I'm going on the adventure. Yeah, I like that too. I like spunk. Wait a minute, Susan. I got it. We both like spontane. Here's the deal. We're going to go.

We're going to have the guys. We're going to go on a spontaneous adventure. And one of the activities is going to be they're going to write us hard to tough letters. I love letters. We get it all. Okay. Let's date someone who's great at fixing things around the house or someone who loves to take you out and about. Again, why are they making me choose?

I mean, one is practical. I mean, you want a guy who can fix it. but with enough money, one bringing, dingy, 1,800, please come fix my house. I think in here, because not, oh, man, especially after you're married or in a relationship for a while, a lot of men don't like to go out a lot. With all due respect? But I need somebody to fix things around the house. So you're going to that?

No, I like to go out, too. No, yeah, my dad was a fixer. I know. Oh, but you didn't date your dad. No, it didn't. You can call and get something fixed. Yes, you can. I'm going out and take me out and about.

Okay. That's what I'm doing. And you know what? Why we're out and about, I'm going to have a handyman at my house fixing everything. I want a lot of things in life, but I think, you know, I could settle for some things that I can go without. I don't know what that is, though. What could I go without? What could you go with that?

I can go with, honestly, I can go without just about anything as long as I have my children, my grandchildren and my good friends oh i'm talking relationship what could i do without an interrelationship like what could you not have to have something that you wanted to i i'm i'm turning around to a positive if that guy loves me and i love him the rest wouldn't matter really didn't matter if he takes you out and about no if i'm really happily in that relationship i mean yes what i like to go out but can you put go the other way you you got a guy who's cheating on you or who doesn't love you anybody's taking out a lot. No.

Arm candy? Wouldn't you like to be arm candy? Well, this was fun today. You know what, though? I am behind on Christmas shopping. I'm just saying, I'm usually the girl that's done by Thanksgiving. Okay? Yeah, well, you've missed that day.

I missed it. You know what I do at Christmas? I'd be interested in what other people do. You ought to write in and let us know. We both have children and grandchildren. I always put some money in my grandchildren's college accounts. And then I get them each a gift, something. I ask my kids what they want for the job.

And then for my children who are married, I ask them something that they would like. And I give them money for that. Like my daughter said she wanted gutters for their house. Your son wanted a deck, was it? My son, yeah, I'm doing that for my son. For Kyle and his wife I'm doing, they want a deck on the back of their house.

My kids would be like a vacation, mom. Well, they want that too. But I just, you know, it makes it easier for me because we all have way too much. stuff in our life. I kill the gifts. I get so many for the little ones. Do you start giving this is true. I, like

I just gave my daughter because my son did Thanksgiving and my so they alternate out on the holidays. I gave my daughter, my Christmas China, because they've sort of taken over those things. Don't you find as you get older

you don't need the things? You know, it's funny you're saying this because I have Nana's China. Okay. Yeah. Every holiday, it's the only time I use it. My sisters are boycotting because I get like 25 people. We're bringing paper plates. I go, that is so impersonal. No, I don't want paper. One year I gave in. It is easier. It is. But I like using that. Those are the traditions. Today, kids don't use China. I use, I have crystal that my husband and I collected over the years, which I've also given to my kids. And we only use it once or twice a year. That's what I mean. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter.

But it's like traditions. I know. I know. All right. Well, anyway, we've, you know, it's December, it's crazy, busy. I hope that you've enjoyed this time away from wrapping, packing. If you have a minute and you're behind, come tell us because we'll sympathize. Tell us how you get organized for the holidays. That's what we want to know. Hey, when do you decorate? Do you like your tree up by Thanksgiving week or are you one of those?

When was Halloween? I love, remember me on my Golden Bachelor? I'm obsessed with Christmas. Oh, yeah, I did. I love, I already have my light, I mean, I had my lights on after her. Halloween. My Christmas lights outside. My neighbors love me. Now's a good time because the weather's so warm too. And you know what? Make sure to keep sending us your questions because look at us. We're going to talk about every single one of them. And if you forget where to do it, you go to

bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Because we love connecting with you guys and listening to what's on your mind. And you could take or leave our advice, but it's just somebody else's. And you know what? We want you to start writing in because, you know, Christmas is here and it's going to be gone. I want to know what y'all do for valentine's day because susan and i are going to have guys by then and we're going to we're going to be in st martin laying on the beach baby all right never mind maybe we'll go to casino that day on the duck size i don't know all right in the meantime in the meantime listen to bachelor happy hours golden hour on the i heart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts have a great week we'll see you soon

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