Bachelor Happy Hour - Susie Soft-Launches Her New Man! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re here with our “Bachelor” sweetheart Susie Evans! Susie is here to catch us up on everything going on in her life, and there is SO much to discuss! We kick things off with some piping-hot tea: Susie is officially taken! We hear the crazy behind her relationship with “Cutie” and how it came to be; you never know what can happen after one bad first date! Then, Susie gives us updates on her fertility journey and her relationship with Justin. Plus, she reminisces on “Paradise” and her true feelings looking back on her departure. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to uncover the truth. Listen to the red weather on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to Bachelor. Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us today. Kath, what's been going on? You know, we're out of the deep freeze around here. I got to put my plants back outside all as well with the world. No more ice here.

If I put a plant outside, it would shrivel. We had 30 today. And that's where I live in Texas. But you heard that little giggle. That is our guest today. She is so special. Please, please welcome from season 10 of Paradise, Susie Evans. Hi, Susie, and welcome to Golden Hour.

You're looking good, girl. Oh, thank you guys. You always look amazing, always look amazing. So do you guys. Before we started, I was literally saying, you guys keep getting hotter. What are you doing? You guys look so good. We're going to have you on every day.

Yeah, really. You know, I just get up and curl my hair. every morning. You look fab. I love it. And your smile is worth a million dollars. So you're in a happy place. I'm taking this. Yes. We got a lot. We got a lot. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. All right. Let's get right into it. So we have been seeing you more and more on red carpets and hosting interviews. I know she's interviewed us, Kathy, several times. Is that something you've always wanted to pursue? I think so. I didn't really know if I was ever capable of it.

I feel like that's one thing that getting into this space, it's kind of pushed me to test my boundaries, test my limits. But I've always liked the idea of doing something like that, but I'm not super in the know of pop culture. I feel like that's one thing where I don't feel super confident. Like if I see a celebrity, I'll be like, I know their face, but I don't know their name. I don't know what they're from.

I just know that they're cool. And I should ask them a few questions. So that is one area where I've never, I never knew if I would actually be like equipped to ask questions and ask interviews, but I think it's more just about being curious. And so yeah, it's been really fun to kind of step into red carpet interviews. I got to chat with you guys at the Golden Brunch a few months ago. Yeah. And yeah, it's just, it's been really fun and definitely tested my limits. Like I've made a lot of mistakes, but it's been fun.

Yeah. We all do. We all make sense. So you always look so beautiful. And I say that to every time I see you, you're always dressed to kill. You always look fabulous. But I'm curious, because you are a major influencer at this point, how do you decide which brands you want to partner with?

And are there times you've actually said no to a brand? Yeah. There have been a few brands that there's actually been brands that I've worked with. And then as I've used the product more. I realize like, oh, I actually don't love this product as much as I thought I would because sometimes a brand deal will come your way. And at the end of the day, it's marketing and you're like, okay, like if it's just brand awareness, I don't have to, as long as I don't have to come out and say, this is my favorite,

you know, under eye creamer. This is my absolute favorite X, Y, and Z. I use it every day. Like I am not in the business of lying or making claims that aren't accurate. But if it's just like, hey, you need to create a video about this product. I'm pretty open-minded as long as it doesn't go against something that I believe in or stand for. But yeah, there's definitely been a few things. I feel like, and there's literally no shade to anybody that does promote it because I actually think GLP ones have one.

They have changed people's lives and people's lives that are close to me. But it is not something that I feel like I can come out and say, like I want to promote this on my page because I'm not using it or I haven't used it. So, that is one thing. Susie, if you used a GLP1, you would blow away. We wouldn't be able to see you. So thankfully, thankfully, you're not doing that. Well, thank you. Do you have a favorite?

Right. No, I don't have a. What's your favorite collaboration? Collaboration. Okay, I love, I have two, Zeni, Optical, and Ipsy. And I work with them so regularly. I feel like those are two things that you just, you can't. They're not controversial in any way. I'm like, it's glasses. I literally have worn

glasses since I was like 18 years old. Hello. That's an easy one. Yeah. That's an easy one. I love working with them. And my favorite thing about both those brands is that they continuously say to me, they're like, we love that you're creative. And they don't give me any kind of box to put me in. They're like, we trust you. Do something fun. Like we want it to be different. So whenever I work with Ipsie, it's like a makeup subscription brand. I just come up with the craziest ideas. And they're like, we love it. Give us more.

And then they rebook. So those are like my two favorite brands because they just want me to do what I love to do, which is be creative and have fun with it. Yeah. And we both know, we all know that you do stay authentic on social media. Thank you. But while doing so and navigating criticism that comes with all this, how do you navigate that?

How do you deal with the criticism? Oh, it's hard. I think it gets better with time. I think that's something I've learned. And I think also you guys probably have felt this as well. Like one day people can love you. The next day, those same people can hate you. And you'll open up, I've opened up messages from people that are so nasty and I'll scroll up.

And like two months ago, they're saying like, I love you so much. Yeah. And it's like it is so. And it just makes you realize, though, that people are, we are imperfect. Humans are imperfect. And you can't take it too. And I'm like, well, thank God I'm not dating that person. You know, like, thank God I'm not in a relationship or have a friendship with them.

Because if my friends talk to me like that, I wouldn't be friends with them. Yeah. I don't get it. The same thing happens to me. And I'm like, you loved me two weeks ago. Yeah. And now you hate me. And I don't get it.

I really don't. I guess they just, you know, have very unhappy lives. But the fans that you have, all of us, loved you on reality TV. Again, we interviewed Hakim. while back. You were on season 10 of Paradise. I was there, missed you. You left before I got there, but fans love you on reality TV. So two-part question, would you return to reality TV? And if so, what would your dream show be? Something with me, I hope. Oh my gosh. Literally. I would 100% return to reality TV. I don't think, I hope I don't have a need to go back on a dating show ever again.

I hope I'm good. You know, I hope I just find that I am solid and I don't need to. Wait, hold on. I got interject you. That sounds like you're dating someone. Are you? I am. I am.

I'm, what's the next question. How? You are? I am. Yes, I'm dating somebody. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, I met a really nice guy. He's so sweet.

Does he have an uncle or a father for me? So his dad is happily married. I'll ask around. I'll ask him. I will ask him. Yeah. Details, though. How did you meet?

How long ago? I met him just before the holidays. Like at the end of November, we met. And he's, yeah, he's so cute. I have to tell the story. I think I've told it on my YouTube channel, but I was on an ugly Christmas sweater party, and we had plans to meet up and go do top golf afterwards. But I didn't really, like, think it through.

So I was, like, in this ugly Christmas sweater dress with a big llama on the front and little kitten heels. And I'm like driving to Top Golf. And then I'm like, oh my God, I didn't bring anything to change into. Like, I'm in an ugly sweater and heels. And so I text him or call him and I'm like, I don't, I'm like, should we not do Top Golf? And he's like, no, it's fine. Like, don't worry about it.

And when I show up, he had put on an ugly Christmas sweater to join me. Oh, cute. I know. Like, he's just really cute and sweet and thoughtful. He's a great guy. So I hope there's no need. Wait, I want to know. What does he do?

How old is he? I want more. What's he look like? Come on. Oh, he's so handsome. He's an attorney and he's a little bit older than me. And yeah, he's so cute. He's just like very handsome and sweet.

He would look at him and be like, oh my gosh, he's like, he looks like just like a cutie pie, you know. How did you meet him? Yeah. Was it a dating site? Were you set up? Did you meet him out at the fruit aisle in the grocery store? It's actually a crazy story, but to keep it short and sweet, basically I was on a date with another guy. Oh, this is awesome.

And then that guy ditched me and I slid into this guy's DMs on, well, it was on Hinge. I slid into his DMs. And I was like, hey, you want to meet for a drink? I just got ditched on a date. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I'm sorry. Go back. You were out on a date with another guy.

He dropped. you ditched you whatever. How did he did you? Wait, and then you reached into this guy's DM? Say this again. Explain this to me. I'm old. Okay.

It's actually so crazy. It's a long story, but basically the first guy left, I reached out to the guy that I've been dating and I hadn't been dating him at the time. But it was my first time just being like, hey, do you want to meet for a drink? And then the first guy comes back. And I had already invited the guy, the other guy, to come back. meet me. And so now I have two guys coming to meet me. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, what do I do? So I canceled on the guy that I've been seeing. I don't want to give his name yet,

but I will just call him cutie because I feel like all my friends call him cutie and then his name because he's so cute. But I canceled on cutie. And I was like, I'm so sorry. Like, I know I just invited you out for a drink, but the guy I was on a date with ditched me. And he just called me and said he's coming back. So you can't come anymore. And then. And then. And, you know, And so basically, this sounds like your own little bachelorette show. She's got a whole. I know a lot of my friends have been like you should have made them both come and fight for love.

Wait a minute. So the guy was not, so the guy that you're dating was not pissed off that you know. He was so, he was like, honestly, I love that you were just honest about it. And you just told me that you were like on a date with somebody. Because I originally just asked him for a drink. I didn't tell him I got date ditched. And so then when the guy. I came back or he texted me.

He said, I'm four minutes away. And I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I already invited somebody else. You told him that too? No, I didn't tell him. I didn't tell him. I just like, that guy, I, it was a weird environment. I probably will figure out a way to go into details without like exposing this person too much.

But basically I was like, it was a, it was a weird situation. And I didn't see him ever again. Yeah, obviously. The guy that ditched you that then showed up. How many dates had you had with him? That was my first date with him. And he literally said goodbye. I'm leaving.

I'm not interested. And then decided to come back. So he didn't say he was, he said, he just left. It was like a weird thing. Like I don't want to. Yeah. It was weird. But he didn't say he wasn't interested.

He actually said he was interested and he felt bad. But he was like, I just have to leave right now. I'm so sorry. It's like, it felt like one of those things when your friend calls and you're like, you text your friend like, get me out of here. Get me out of here. And it's like, hey, I got to go. Or he had a drug deal he had to complete.

Right. Or my thought was that maybe he had another day. His wife called. Yeah, exactly. I was like, oh my gosh, what's happening? He had to pick his kids up at the Boy Scout meeting. Yeah. It was a wild ride of a night.

So that night, I came home and I cold face-timed the cutie from the dating app because I was like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry, send me your number. I have to explain. So I cold-faced him. And of course, at that point, I had had like three martinis that night. And I was like, hi. explains the FaceTime. Yeah, exactly.

Hi. I bet you were smiling up a storm. Yeah, exactly. It was very funny. Yeah, it was a really fun. It's like a funny way that we met each other. So, but yeah, I was the first one to DM him on the app. And then I was the first one to ask him out.

And then I also FaceTime him. So I was excited to meet this guy. Go get her. And you've been together since. Yeah, we've been going out on dates and. seeing each other he's great and i assume he lives close to you or somewhere in l.a he lives kind of he's actually a little bit further but he is technically in l.a yeah but he's like in the south bay area okay wow is he close to your age yeah he's a little older than me but we're close

in age nice i love that he told the truth and i think that would turn me on too that what you just just told us i think that's a great story i really do it was very funny So, so yeah, it was a good, a good way to meet. Okay, so I have to ask you a question because you and I've had many conversations over time. Are you and Justin friends anymore? Well, I think we really respect each other. We know that we have love for each other, but we do not keep up with each other just because I think, I don't think we could. I think it was too.

It's too hard. Yeah, it's too hard. and I think it's, it's, we are that way because we care so much about each other. And I think it would just be complicated and painful. And yeah, but we were both rooting each other on from a distance for sure. I didn't mean to bring you down. I just last time I saw you, we were talking about that. So, you know, hopefully someday you guys can be friends and, you know.

I'm sure they wish each other the best, right? You just want him to be happy as he does you. Wow. Yeah, absolutely. And Cudy lawyer will. Cutie, Lord, and Justin will become the best of friends. Yeah, sure. They'll be great friends.

Cutie has never been married before, right? No, he hasn't. Oh, this sounds so good. Well, listen, I'd like to continue with this interview, but you need to hang up and see where his father is for me. Just kidding, I'm sure, not. Iheart Radio is throwing it back. 2010, the decade. To the days of huge hits.

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To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people would die. In 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone. The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Brandon Kyle Goodman, the host of the Tell Me Something Messy podcast.

I wanted to create a safe, comfy place for all of us to talk about sex, relationships, and what it means. means to be human. And baby, my fantastic guests are bringing their mess to share with the class. Like singer-songwriter Duran Bernardar suggesting we reinstate adult sleepovers with friends. Here's the thing. Get a group that's mature enough not to be putting your hand in warm water and tickling you. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I mean, granted, I might be doing. But you know, and I think it's important for those examples of that, of us just being gentle with one another because the world, and the people in it already finding brand new ways to whip eye as everything. 1,000% of the day.

1,000%. So the least we could do is make strides to handle each other in a way that is a bit more mind. Yeah, that's with care and a bit more mindful. Listen to Tell Me Something Messy on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather. It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea. In 1995, my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around.

It was nature and trees and praying and drugs. So no, I am not your guru. And back then, I lied to my parents. I lied to police. I lied to everybody. There were years right where I could not say your name. I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

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Wow. Let's just jump right in. Oh, yeah. I actually love this. So I actually planned to get my eggs frozen last September. And I was working with a clinic that was brand new. And then there was just a lot of, there was like a non-compete with the doctor. And it just kept getting pushed back because she was starting her own clinic.

And it was just like a lot of like pushback, push back, push back. But I went through the original like blood work. and the internal ultrasound where they checked for follicles and stuff like that. So I started the process last year and then it got pushed back. I actually switched who I'm doing it through. And so I'm going to be going through a company in Chicago. And I just signed my like patient paperwork last Friday. So I will be doing egg freezing.

I am so excited. I feel like that is something if you're, I'm 32. I'll be 33 this year. I want kids. I hope that I won't have to use the eggs that I'm freezing, but it's just like good security. And also it takes a lot of pressure off of figuring out the time. Right, right. Yeah, the timeline.

It's like I want and I want to figure out who it's with. Like there is still pressure and all the for me, but it takes a lot of the urgency off of it. So I'm such a proponent of it. I've been thinking about doing it since I was 27. but I'm a pretty queasy person and I get pretty nervous about medical stuff. So it's a big decision. And I'm finally, it's finally happening and I'm excited. Well, you know, we were just talking earlier about men that have, you know, they can think about getting married in their 40s and marry somebody younger.

And we just really have that issue of you've got to plan it. As much as I hate to say that, you're doing the right thing. You want to have the possibility of children and you want to take some of the stress off. I mean, I believe you have plenty of time left, but I like the idea of having a backup plan. Yeah. Because they're your eggs, you know. Right. Do you know anybody?

I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Do you know people that have done it that you know personally? Actually, I do. I know a lot of girls that have done it. And I've had a couple of really good conversations. And I think a lot of times it just. takes, it just takes the pressure off. And I, I think we've seen now more than ever and I love it.

Like, I love, I don't love it. I don't love that people are getting divorced, but I love that women are like secure. We make our own money. We have our own opportunities now where I feel like 30, 40 years ago, we, it was just different times and you had to rely on men. I mean, I don't think women could have credit cards. I mean, it was like late in the game until women could have credit cards. I don't want to give a date, but I'm like, credit cards for a hundred years. I'm like, it's, it's been, it's not, like, it's not, yeah, it's been not that long since women have been able to, or it's been acceptable to be out on your own. And I love that that's, we are empowered to do that. And I'm like, no one should stay in an unhealthy relationship. No one should be staying in anything that doesn't serve them.

So I love that aspect of where we are at. But that also puts a lot, or it takes off a lot of pressure on us to settle down with the wrong person. And I think that's something where now I'm like, I make my own money. Like, I'm very comfortable. I love my life. And I don't want to be with somebody unless we're both bringing mutually great stuff to the adding. Exactly. And we should both feel that way. So it does push the clock back though. And my biology hasn't changed. So I love that. I love that, Susie, what you just said. I think so many young people today. And from where Susan and I sit, you're young, but, you know, it's knowing that you walk independently by yourself, make your own money, make your own decisions, and you're looking for a partner, somebody

to walk with you, not ahead of you, not, you know, not be, yeah, behind you, walk hand in hand. And I love that, that women in your generation really have the option to do that because they've formulated careers. They've put themselves first. So, yeah, you. Going back to QD, if you don't. Did he know who you were?

So he had an inkling. I think he was like, I didn't have my social media linked. Yeah, but I didn't have my last name or my social media linked. I think his mom watched The Bachelor, but not my season. Or I think his mom actually watched the season I was on, not Paradise, but my original Bachelor season. But he hadn't seen it. He didn't have like full context, but he did ask me pretty early on. He was like, are you from The Bachelor World?

And I was like, I am. Yeah. So I think he had an inkling and kind of knew. But yeah, he hadn't, he didn't see my season. So which is kind of good. But we've actually gone back and watched a few things together. Like he watched my hometown date and he watched, I think my intro package, but he hasn't seen the full season. But it was kind of fun to watch it.

with him. I love that. I love that. So obviously, is he from, I know he lives in L.A. Is he from the L.A. area? Because you're from Virginia, right? Yeah. So do you, would you like to stay in L.A.? Or do you see yourself when you start a family moving or not? Yeah. I think stay in L.A. I think it's always kind of been dependent on who I meet and who I end up with. I think that my life is very flexible. I don't know that there's a lot for me in Virginia where I'm from. I love going home. I love seeing my family. And that's the hardest part about being in L.A.

is that I'm so far from family. I love them all. But there isn't a lot for me as far as my career. Where in Virginia, Susie, are you from? I'm from a small town, but it's about an hour from Virginia Beach. Ah, okay. So it's kind of a coastal, like coastal area. I love it.

It's beautiful. An hour north. Like North Carolina or north? Yeah, north. Yeah. But pretty close to North Carolina. It's like, it's very similar to that region where it's a lot of like marshland, a lot of fishermen and stuff like that. Yeah, it is, it's a beautiful place to grow up.

And it would be a great place to raise children, to be honest. But I don't know. I think I'm a city girl. You're so L.A. I am, which is so funny. I was so against moving here. I thought I would be like a New York girl, but can you imagine me in New York? I would be like.

You fit California to it. I do. I don't know. You could be in New York too. You think so? Yeah, New York, it's style. It's all style. It looks a little different.

Frankly, Susie, you could plant yourself anywhere and be fabulous. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right, let's talk about future. Is there anything that you haven't shared with publicly that you're excited about any projects or personal or professional that you'd like to share with us? What have you been thinking?

So, as you guys mentioned, I've been doing more hosting and interviews and things like that. I really hope that this year I can continue in that direction. Are you saying doing more online or more in person? I think both. I think it's, I think, I'm thinking like hosting carpets, yeah, interviews. I think also, I, I mean, I auditioned for a hosting role for a show a few months ago. And the show didn't get picked up, unfortunately.

but I was moving in that direction for a couple months, but the show hasn't found a network. So unfortunately, I don't know that it's gonna work out, but even just going through that and having that momentum felt so good. The experience of interviewing, and that gives you confidence because you've done it and once you do it a few times, you're gonna, you know. Wow.

So that felt like a really great career trajectory where I was like, oh, why am I not pursuing this anyways? Like, I could go back on reality TV and I would, I would so go back on like a fun game show, but I also would be so down just to host a show and be the person that's bringing people in and leading the progression of whatever the show is. So I'm really open-minded. And I think I might just try to go, yeah, I feel like it's, I mean, you guys are killing it and doing this.

And this is the kind of stuff interviewing and creating this environment and being curious. Like, I feel like that's how we set ourselves up to do that. I think you hit the nail on the head. it's been curious wanting to know about people wanting to learn more and then it just flows naturally but when you get that show i'm going to be your co-host oh i put us in can you imagine you were such a natural interviewing us i know like you just went on down the line it was us going up thanks guys celebrate your pride with the station that's as bold vibrant and diverse as you are IHart Pride, Kenda, from dance anthems to pop icons and hits from 2SLGBTQ plus Canadian artists.

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Our Menalick Lamumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. had both been assassinated. And Black America was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almemata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So what else? What do you want to tell us that we don't know about you? Ooh, what else? I've been doing a lot more YouTube. I think that's also been really fun for me. Just like sitting down, talking to the camera. I'm doing a book club if you guys want to join.

We're starting a new book. What's the book? When I think it's, oh, you know what? We were debating between two. Let me look, I've got it right here. We were debating between two different books. We just read Best Offer Wins. Have you guys read that one?

No. It was a best seller. Okay. Or best offer, offer, yeah. It was a psychological thriller, but it really didn't become that until the end. And I really at first was like,

oh, I relate to this girl. She's like getting her eggs frozen. She's trying to buy a house. And then in the end, she literally is truly crazy. And I was like, maybe not too much. Yeah, like I really related to her way too much.

But our next book is the few. future saints. It's like a, I think it's like a romance about an aspiring musician. Yeah. So I think it'll be fun. All right. We'll have to get, we did that offline and say, because I love to read. I'm a big reader. Oh, fun. Oh, my God. You should join the book club. I will. I will. Okay. Okay. So I want to know, a little advice, give a little advice to women before we let you go here. What advice do you have for women that is single right now? I would say, be proactive. I think a lot of people say, oh, you find it when you're not looking for it.

And I think that's so true. I think that happens for people. But honestly, when I was like in November, I was really proactively dating. I was being the first person to reach out. I was like open minded. I went out on a date from a matchmaker reached out to me and was like, hey, I have a client. I think you'd be great. I was so open minded and just putting myself out there.

And I don't have time to sit around and chit chat on the apps. And that's one thing. I feel like a lot of my friends. And it's to no one's fault. Like you want to see if there's a connection. But if you don't ask me out in the first like three or four exchanges, I'm probably going to move on because somebody else will or I will. Like that's what I did that night that I met the cutie.

I was like just shooting my shot. So I kind of feel like don't be afraid to be proactive, especially like it's not that I'm like, I'm 32. I'm getting this job done, but that's kind of how I feel. I was like, I'm taking all the things that I apply to my work ethic, my businesses, like everything that I've done for literal work, I applied to dating. And I was like, I am literally going to take this into my own hands and ask the guy out that I want to meet and like shoot my shot. I was out on a date with somebody else.

He left me. Okay, I'll find another date. Wait, I want Kathy to hear what you're saying. Kathy would never make the first move, right? We've talked about this. Oh, you like to, because you like to be pursued. Is that right? Well, no, it's just, listen, we're in different stages of life.

I mean, we could talk about this on another podcast, but I may or may not have had too many cocktails last week with my daughter. And she goaded me, and my daughter, who's married, goaded me. And she goes, Mom, you're so pretty. You're so fun. You need to get back on the day now. I said, my daughter's name is Caitlin. I said, Caitlin, I'd rather stab myself in the eyes. But after, you know, she just put, you know, I did it.

And I have not been disappointed. It's a lot of old men carrying up dead fish. And, you know, they're just, I keep saying they're old. They're not, you know, they're not the guys that I want to date. So Susan's right. But my point is you as if some, if you saw somebody that you thought you'd like to meet, ask them out. Well, I saw one guy who I would like to meet. Unfortunately, he's in Louisiana.

Hey, Louisiana sounds nice right about now. I bet the weather's great. She's in Austin, remember? It's nice there, too. Oh, true. You got good weather, too. The 60s in there? In Austin?

It's 60s. Yeah, it's going to be 70s by the end of the weekend. So, you know. Well, how about this one? Susie, what would you tell someone who's going on the Bachelor for the very first time. I would say be 100% yourself because people are going to love you and they're going to hate you regardless. So you may as well get loved and hated for being yourself rather than something else. And I think I think all of us on this call probably did that. I think all of us

were like truly ourselves. And all of us have experienced hate. We've experienced love. And I think I would just be so sick to my stomach if I did something or acted a certain way that wasn't, even on Paradise. I hate, I'm not going to lie. I'm not resentful, but I'm like, I hate that I went home. You know, what's embarrassing is I had three full-size suitcases packed and I was there for one day. I was there for one day. I was so annoyed. I was like, I want, and people are like, you could have stayed. You could have said, yes, which is true. But I, I don't think it would have been in my character to, to stay. Like I, and I obviously, I thought it was going to go different. I thought Lexi, would get to stay if I didn't.

So just like, you know, it was, but it was me. It was like I was true to myself. Yeah. And I was okay with going home because I was like, you know what? I came here to give this a shot. And it's like obviously not going to, it's not working out for me. So I'm going to leave. And I can live with that.

But if I had, if I had accepted the rose, I think I would have felt terrible for Lexi. And I would have been sick about it the whole time the whole time. And Susie, if you'd accepted the rose and. cutie would be he'd be in like the distance future somewhere you wouldn't have met cutie so i know exactly or he could have met somebody else you know that's right i can't wait to meet cutie what about you susan i know i want to know what kind of dates you've been on he plans he really cute dates uh because we met around like christmas time um we did the top golf he came on a a christmas sweater which was so cute it was so cute and funny and one night he got like peppermere

schnabs and then we had hot chocolate and we went to a really cute neighborhood in his area where they where everyone walks around to look at the Christmas lights like every house is decorated so we walked around and um perfect we went to the magic castle have you guys done that no oh my gosh okay it's it's it's do you know what it is no oh my gosh I didn't know either and people that live in L.A. think that it's known everywhere but it's a literal castle in Hollywood. And it's members only. So you have to either be a magician or know a magician or know somebody who is a member of this club. And that's the only way that you can get in. And there's all of these different rooms and stages. And it is some of the most incredible magic that you will

experience literally in your life. Like I, is he a member? No, he's, he's not a member. But actually, I hired a magician at my Christmas party. Just surprised my friends. And that magician got us into the magic castle. So we went on a double date to the magic castle. And yeah, he's, yeah, he's played together yet. Have you stayed at home? He's cooked for me, actually.

Oh, yeah, we've done a few of those. He's a good cook. Have you traveled with him yet? No, we haven't, we haven't traveled or done anything like that yet. Have you met his family? I did meet his family. And they're amazing. That's big.

That's big. Yeah, they're such good people. Like just like it made so much sense too. Like one of the first things he said to me, which was such a green flag, he was like, honestly the best part about me is my friends and family. Like they're the best people. And I was like, that's such a green flag for someone to say that. And then I met a lot of his friends and family and they are like literally the best people. They're such like kind, welcoming good humans.

Wow. Wow. I'm telling you, it's so, so many people. the ones that got together on Paradise. And then since Paradise, so many of you people have met these really important people that you're really, yeah, that you're so happy. It's just so great to hear us. I'm so happy for you. You deserve everything, Susie.

You deserve the best. Do you have any questions for us? Okay, yeah. What advice do you have for me as somebody who feels like, who, I feel like I've met a really great person. What advice would you have as I like start this new. journey. I'd say move forward and keep smiling. You said green flag. I heard that. There's no red flags that you're seeing. But there will be. There's always going to be nobody's perfect. I would say exactly what Susan's saying. He's not perfect. You're not perfect. But just enjoy the ride. See where

it takes you. Sometimes, you know, Susie, it's meeting the right person at the right time. And maybe this is your time and your person. So yeah, yeah. That's my advice. I'll have you updated. relationships, all of it. And now it's not work. You're just enjoying. And that's what it's about. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. We're coming to as soon as we're going out to L.A. to meet them. Yeah. I was going to say, when are you guys back in L.A.? That's my other question. I want to hang out.

Absolutely. I'm going to be in Carmel. Oh, fun. But not in L.A. Okay. No, we're going to be in L.A. Oh. February 20,

Okay, I'll put it on my calendar. We should do a fun video or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm performing a wedding on the 28th, so I'll be there, 26, 27. Not her wedding. Not hers. Not yet. Performing a wedding.

Officiating. Let's stay in contact. Yeah, I love it. All right. I hate to even say this because I love this conversation. I had a smile planted on my face the whole time. And that's going to do it for today's episode. Thank you so much, Susie, for joining us and sharing all these wonderful, wonderful things with us.

And tell Cudie, we cannot wait to meet him. Okay, I will. He's excited, too, I'm sure. And thanks to all of our listeners. Be sure to keep sending us your questions. Just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and send us your questions, your comments, your thoughts. We love hearing it all. Absolutely.

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