Bachelor Happy Hour - Tayshia on Her Breakup with JPJ

Episode Date: November 6, 2019

“Bachelor” alum Tayshia Adams opens up about her recent breakup with John Paul Jones. Plus, Rachel is joined by former Bachelorette and guest co-host Becca Kufrin, who shares some exciting news about the upcoming tour of “The Bachelor Live on Stage.”Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I've got a very special guest, a first-timer to the Bachelor Happy Hour family. I have the wonderful Becca Coo-Fran. Hello. I'm a newbie. You're a newbie, but you're also my co-hosts today. Yes, and I'm so excited. We're going to have a good time.

If these walls could, talk you have no idea what we were saying before we were miced up we should have been recording an hour ago we should we have been sipping some wine because of course this is bachelor happy hour if you're going to drink along with us make sure you drink responsibly but maybe we'll get a little loose lipped here and you know spill the tea oh gosh i might not be able to talk after that i love that i love to hear that um okay but before we get things kicked off because we do have a lot to get into um you have a new special project that you were working on, do tell. So this is actually the first time I can officially talk about it. So I'm so excited. We've

been working on it for a while with my lovely co-host, Ben Higgins, but I will be alongside him for the Bachelor Live on Stage Tours. I am so excited. We are kicking off February 13th, 2020 in Mesa, Arizona. But basically what it is, I could talk about this forever. I could also show you all of my choreography because I'm so pumped. Because we've already been working. We're getting Choreography? We're getting, like, you're getting the full Broadway-esque experience. So basically we are bringing The Bachelor to 66 cities across the nation. So it's going to be a wild ride.

What I love about this is you're going to see every city will have their own local bachelor. So we're picking out these great awesome guys who are ready to hopefully find love and then 10 contestants in each city. So some will be picked by Ben and I. Some may make appearances from the audience. But it's going to be very audience. interactive. So, you know, everyone watches The Bachelor and Bachelorette and you get invested in the show and in the contestants and you have your favorites and the girls that you don't like. So this is kind of the same thing. So we're going to get the audience feedback on who we think

the Bachelor should end up with at the end. So it's a little different. I know we were talking about the proposal before. It's not quite like that. So I think people assume that the Bachelor's going to have to get engaged after two hours of the show. That's not the case. He's just going to find his girl who he thinks he wants to be continued dating in the city and is most compatible with. So he can give out his final rose. There is going to be a great twist at the end, which I won't give away right now because I want everyone to come and watch it and see for themselves. But

the twist at the end is what hooked me. And that's why I originally said yes to this. So it's going to be a wild ride. It's going to be very fun. It'll be funny. It'll be dramatic. We'll have some loving moments. And of course, you know, come see me in Bend Dance. Well, okay, well, you had me on choreography, okay? Like, I'm already having my phone out. I'm Googling. I know you guys are too because I'm on the edge of my seat

trying to figure out what this is. I do have a question, though. Yes. It is called Bachelor Live on stage. Will there be people from the Bachelor franchise that may, I don't know, make a guest appearance? Can we be invited to come? Well, yes, you guys are already invited.

I got your tickets. There will be guest appearances. I mean, I'm working hard to get Garrett to make an appearance because, I don't know, a little off topic. Garrett did Chippendales a few months. ago and so anything that we can get him to like come out in a cowboy hat and like rip his shirt off I'm all for so does he remember the choreography I don't know if he I'm sure he does you don't make him do it at home but he only had he literally met the dancers like an hour before he had to go on stage and do a full blown show with them so I think uh the I think the dancers with him helped out a lot which we also will have a full dance crew on our bachelor live on stage too so it's um I think when people are getting a sense of what this all is. I think people might get nervous and they'd be like, oh, we don't want to be on stage. That's nerve wracking. It's going to be so fun. It's going to be so positive,

lighthearted, but we have a full production with us. So we have changing sets. You're going to feel like you're at the mansion. You're going to feel like maybe you're in the hot tub coming out of the limo. But I've met the dancers this week and they're amazing. And they have everyone's backs. They are going to make these girls and The Bachelor look wonderful. So it's going to be a good time. I love it because you're really making Bachelor Nation feel like they're a part of this thing. Totally. You watch it. Now it's coming to a city near you, 66 cities, which is still crazy to me.

I do have another question, though, because the more and more you talk, I'm so excited. And I'm like, okay, I have another question. For the people who didn't find love on The Bachelor, is it possible that maybe they're a contestant? It is possible. That is actually something that we had just been talking about a couple days ago. because you have this amazing crew of people who are still looking to find love. And, you know, you're in your hometown. Everyone's on the dating apps.

Everyone's going to the bars and out to try and find somebody. So this is basically like that, but just on stage in front of a crowd, that can be more fun. So we could bring in past contestants. I also could see it finding some great people on our live stage that could potentially, if they want, make it onto the show too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to give you a list of people that I would like to see. Well, you can nominate. Okay, I will do that.

Everybody else should DM Becca and Ben and let them know who you would like to see from a past season on the show. DM me. Also, it might get buried, but anyone, if you want to apply or nominate anyone, I will definitely be nominating some of my friends who are single back in Minnesota, but you can go to Bachelor Live onstage.com. Is that also how they can get tickets? Yes. Tickets to the full lineup of cities, dates everything. Okay, well, I'm expecting free tickets, but, you know. Rachel, you might make an appearance, so you might be doing the choreography with me. Well, congratulations. I'm so excited. I love that you went in depth explaining it because I feel like we're all like,

okay, that's your live on stage, what is this, need to understand it, now I'm hooked. Well, and that's, when I first heard about it, I was the same way, because I think they announced it at Paradise. And they, they were like, pan to Ben really quick, but everyone was like, what is this? How's it going to work? it's going to be like if you were to buy tickets to a Broadway show that's kind of what it's going to be you know we're not singing luckily because I don't think anyone wants to hear that but it's going to be a full-blown show like you sit back you can grab your cocktails we'll give you some roses you can scream at the crowd you can scream at us like you can get up and dance with us it's

everything it's super interactive it's going to be such a great time I'm excited I'm okay I keep looking at the guests that we have in the room because I'm like aren't you excited but she can't say anything yet she can't say anything. Yes, does she? Okay, Becca, congratulations to everything that you have coming up. This is really exciting. You and Ben are going to have the best time. You'll be the best co-host. I'm excited. I am too. I know all of you guys were expecting to hear Nill Lane this week, and because normally we like to tease who's coming up on the podcast. Don't worry. Nil Lane will be here, but not today. Because some big news has been popping off in

Batchel Nation as of recently, and we know you guys want to talk about it. We want to talk about it. We want to hear from the people who are involved with this big news. And, yeah, I don't know about you, Becca, but I've been a little shook this week. We've gotten a lot of news. Yeah, yeah, we have. And so we're not going to keep you waiting any longer because in the studio today, we have Tasha. Hi. Yay.

Hi, Tasha. So it has been announced that Tasha and John Paul Jones, JPJ, what are we going to call him here? Because it's like a mouthful. And I just, I mean, I call him John. Okay, John. I like that. So Tasha and John have officially split. You guys know who we're talking about. And Tasha's been our girl. She's a friend of the show. So she's going to dish about it. And just tell us what happened. Take us from the beginning because I feel like there's been so much speculation about your relationship. So let's just stop speculating. Let's get right to it. Let's talk to the woman who was actually involved in this relationship who can set the record straight. Okay, you guys. So we're going to be talking to Nillane next week. But this week, it's all about Tatia. All right. Let's lay it all out there. Can we get a timeline first?

Yeah. Am I jumping ahead? I would like, because I watched Paradise on and off, I actually saw you at Mexico at Chris and Crystal's wedding. And at that point, I didn't know, I mean, there was a lot going on, so I didn't know that you guys had been dating. But I just want a timeline of when everything started and did everything in the middle. Okay. So we'll go back to, like, the wedding. At that point, I had, so I actually had talked to Derek's.

Since day one of Paradise. You guys kind of saw a snippet of me talking to him. So I think that's where we kind of decided to take it to the next level and see if there was anything there. But there wasn't. And I think that's where John also decided that he wanted to pursue me wholeheartedly as opposed to see anything else. So my question is, because it made it seem like John, he sounds so boring when I just call him John, though. Call him JPJ. JPJ.

Yeah. When he was pursuing you, I mean, he seemed all in. Like, he was head over heels, like, dead set, laser focus on you. Obsessed. Yeah. So did you sense that when you were with him? Or was it more watching it back where you're like, oh, God, he's really into me. I honestly had no idea how much he was, like, into me until I think it was when he started crying to me. And he was just like, I just really need you to have, like, your own time. And I need you to decide what you want. I want you and blah, blah, and that happened, I don't know, right before, I would say, a week before breakups. Okay, before the fantasy suite. Yeah, this was after the wedding. Right. Okay.

Yeah. But, like, to me, it was just kind of like a fun fling, honestly. Like, we had, like, that moment where we, like, fell in the pool. It was just, like, I don't know what the heck is going on. Like, this guy's super fun. And we just had a good time, but I didn't really see anything serious coming out of it. Like, the next day, we just, like, didn't talk. Like, it would just be, like, a fun, like, little flirt.

You know what I mean? So when he was like, I love you, it really caught me by surprise. I did not expect him to say that at all. So when I broke up with him at that moment, it was because I thought it was the right thing to do because I'm not just going to say, I love you, just to say I love you. And I'm not going to lead him on because I can tell if this guy was like legitimately head over heels for me. Well, you obviously saw something in JPJ that you didn't see in Derek because you sent Derek home. So you knew that there was nothing there. Am I right?

Correct. I was not I was not romantically drawn to Derek We had a good connection And I think that we connected on a A lot of ways that a lot of people At Paradise were not able to connect with me

In the sense that he was engaged at one point That didn't work out We had just put ourselves out there before So we connected on that And so I think that's where Our foundation really started But at that time when you sent Derek Combe, did you see something more serious with J.P.J.?

Or was it just more fun and lighthearted and you wanted to experience that lighthearted side of things? Honestly, at that point, it was just, it was more fun and lighthearted, but also John possessed a lot of qualities, like, the fact that he's a faithful man and not just like, I mean, with like religion. Like, he's a religious man. He's also very close to his family. He was successful. his job he's a financial analyst he like went to school for doing something you know that requires brains and i that's attractive to me um there was a lot of things i was drawn to by john but also it was just really fun the way he made me laugh was like nobody else so can okay changing gears here when you watched jpj on hannah season what were your thoughts because i watched behind the scenes of i think it was when they had my favorite date the drury queens and they did the like talent show portion of

that date and he came out on the unicycle and almost fell into the audience but he was in his speedo and I was like who is this guy like he's going all out and he I mean I was sitting back just dying laughing yeah but what were your thoughts were you when you saw him then were you like oh he's cute or were you like this goofball I thought he was a goofball yeah but like it made me laugh I remember rewinding it like three four five times when he was um when they were doing the birthing simulations oh yeah I was laughing so hard at the faces he was making and he He just made me laugh. And then same with the unicycle thing.

But then also I left a paradise right after, so I didn't see anything else. When you described John, like you talk about the laughter, which we all saw. Like, he seems like he's a really funny guy. And then you named a bunch of other characteristics that he checks off the boxes, things that are important to you. But as far as connecting with each other, what was it that drew you to him? Honestly, it was just... I feel like he... he just like listened to me and he maybe I was just really vulnerable at the time and I just needed someone just to like show me that care and like attention you know mean and um he just was really invested in getting to know me and wanting to hear my heart and all the kind of stuff he was there he was present and that's what I wanted at the time how was kissing him

oh well I did tell John we needed to work on that yeah no we can tell it it showed I was looking at him like why are you kissing me like a fish but we worked on it he got much better I will tell you that much so damn it never mind I'm not going to say that don't I'm not going to say anything go ahead and ask the next question I think he was honestly very nervous though okay so the kissing

obviously leads to the touching in the fantasy suites which you sent him home before right before the fantasy suites which I get because when I was the bachelor I sent Jason home during right before fantasy suites I'm sure I sent him home for vastly different reasons because at that point I really was falling hard for Jason and the feelings were there

and I knew it would have been a great night but I just I also knew I had really strong connections with the remaining men. So what was your thought process in that moment when I know that you said he had said that he had loved you and you didn't want to string him along and take him into the fantasy suites but did you ever what was your thought process and say no at that point? Did you want to explore the night with him or I do or did the fish kissing kind of turn you off um no I did but intimacy is a really big deal for me I don't know I can count on one hand how many people I've slept with like I'm just intimacy is a really big deal so I wouldn't just do it just to do it and there's nothing wrong with anybody exploring that but I'm just saying for me I wasn't ready

to take that step because I knew I wasn't 100% all in so what Was intimacy a part of your relationship when you left Paradise? Like, did you, do you feel like, and I'm not trying to get you to tell me your personal business, like what goes on behind closed doors? I just more so mean, do you feel like you had an intimate, that intimacy that you were seeking with Sean Paul Jones? I think over time, as I got to know him, that's Minow, guys. Meno's a co-host today as well. Minno's trying to make it all about her. I'm sorry.

You want to come up here and talk. As our relationship Progress outside of all of Paradise Should I say? The cameras and all that stuff Just getting to know him I was more open to being intimate with him

Yes But also we were long distance So Yeah Try that How yeah let's get into that Because we saw you guys break up It was really really emotional

I do want to ask you that When you broke up with him were you in that moment regretting it or were you? Yes. Okay. Yes. Well, because we saw the part where you guys said your goodbyes on the daybed and then you ran after him. And in that moment when I was watching it, I was like, oh, she's going to get him back.

Like she's going to say I made a mistake. I had no idea what to expect. But I thought it was sweet that you gave him that extra time and gave him a hug and made him still feel special like you guys did have something. But I was convinced you were going to be like, we're doing this. We're going in the fantasy suites. Yeah. I don't know. I knew that he was a special person. Like I said, there was just a lot of things that I think he checks off. I think also the whole loyalty thing is a really big deal for me. I don't think John would ever put himself in a situation. And he's also promised me that to ever cheat on me. And cheating on me is like a really big thing to me because I have been burned like that in the past. So there's just like other things as well that I love about him. But that was like a really big thing to me. And I was like, I I don't know if I will find that again. I just don't want to subject myself to being hurt specifically like that.

So. Yeah, I feel like with JPJ, you got, I keep you saying his name. I've said, I've said all like five different ways. I feel like with JPJ, he gave you what was missing for you in other relationships. And sometimes maybe that's like what you hold on to and what you're drawn to. And then time goes on and you realize you maybe need a little bit more in a relationship. So time did go on for you guys And we saw you go see him Where was he in Baltimore?

Is that where it was? He's in Maryland Maryland So we see you go see him in Maryland You guys get back together Your boyfriend and girlfriend, official And how much time passed between then And the now breakup?

That was the end of July So July, August, September, October Okay Did you guys talk in between leaving paradise And going out? That was like fresh start. I saw him, spoke to him anything since I left.

Did you feel like your stomach was going to fall out of your butt? I would have been freaking out. You don't even know. I was hyperventilating. I was shaking. I was like, and it was super hot that day. It was just... Well, you looked good. We couldn't tell. Yeah, no, you couldn't tell. Thank you very much. I knew he was going to take you back. I mean,

if everything what he was saying about you and Paradise was true, then this was a dream that literally just knocked on his door for him. Yeah. So take us through that time off camera between July and, where are we now? It's November. What was I? July and November 1st or October when you guys broke up. How did your relationship progress? Or didn't? I mean, honestly, it was very slow. I feel like we had just gotten back from Paradise.

John was still working at 9 to 5. He went actually straight to work the next day after he came back from Paradise. So, again, he's a financial analyst, so his work is very grueling. He doesn't, he told me since the day, like, we got together. He's like, listen, and I'm at work, I'm at work. If I don't respond, I'm not going to respond because I just, I'm in it 100%. And I said, that's totally fine. But we're also a three-hour time difference. So we really just relied on FaceTime.

I mean, John got an entirely new phones. That way he could FaceTime. He even had an Android before that. No, he just had like, I don't even know, like, the first iPhone he'd do on version. Or BlackBerry. I found a Nokia and brick that everyone ended up. Isn't it fitting though? Oh my gosh.

And so he went straight to Verizon store. I got a brand new cell phone. And he was just like, Tasha, I could FaceTime you now. Because that was like a huge part for us. And I was traveling a bunch. I just realized that last weekend was my first weekend home since mid-August. Like I had been gone every single weekend, every single minute, honestly. So John working 9 to 5, me traveling a bunch.

and trying to squeeze in to, like, see him when I can. It just, like, it was hard. It's really, really hard. And I did do long distance at one point. I did it for three years. But at that point, I was in college. I, you know, he was working, and I was okay with that setting. At this point in my life, I want someone to be with me.

I need to be able to be in the same town with them. You want to have that serious relationship that you've been trying to find. I get that. I did long distance for a while after college. And going on the show, that was the, one thing I was nervous about coming off of when I was finally with Garrett is that I said I don't want to do long distance so we have to figure out it's where we're going to be and it's a you know your life is changing as you have experienced your world kind of blows up after you get

off the show and you have all these great opportunities and you're traveling like crazy which that in itself is already hard on a relationship so adding the long distance I can't imagine how difficult that would have been and I think people are like oh like you were just parting you're just having fun like you can make a decision but it's like also at the same time I need to live my life too. And it is opportunities, but it's also work in a way. I am working. I was traveling for work.

I go to a ton of expos. So actually, there was an expo in Baltimore, and I was able to see John for an hour and a half while I was there. So I tried to make it work as much as I possibly could, but it really, it was hard. Go ahead. Well, go ahead. I want to know, so this long distance, would you say, were you both equally putting in that time to try to make it work?

or would you say you were doing the brunt of it? I wouldn't say that. I would say John did fly out to come seeing me. I would say two weeks after I went out to Baltimore to go get him back. So he did make an effort with that. And that's when he met all of my friends. And at that time, we were in hiding. So it was kind of silly.

Honestly, we had to stay in a car the whole time and in a hotel room. But I don't know. He sent me flowers to my birthday I really don't know how to say Who put more effort in? What do you want me to say? I called you 10 times today And you called me only four

You know what I mean? So it's kind of hard to say Like who's putting in more effort And I'm sure every week is different It is. Let me, I'm gonna get into some tougher questions. Yeah, please. So John Paul Jones announced

that he was moving to California So that eliminates the long distance factor. Right. Has he moved here already? He moved here. a week ago. Okay. So he moved here a week ago and you guys broke up within a week. So I guess it's safe to say that long distance wasn't the issue in your relationship. I, yes, there were other factors. There were definitely other factors as to why we are not together today. But I will say

that long distance didn't help in any way. Yeah. And I guess, and I'm asking you because, you know, a lot of, a lot of people have been critical of your relationship with John. Like, just put it out there. And I know one of the things that they talk about is the fact that, you know, they didn't believe the relationship that you had with one another. And so I want to give you the opportunity to dispel those rumors because if you're saying it's distance, but then he moved here, you know, I don't feel like you have to tell everybody exactly why you broke up, but just more of saying your piece so people aren't putting in

their own preconceived notions, yeah. Yeah. And it's hard because they don't want to like, I will never badmouthed John in any way, shape, or form. But, like, we each have our own flaws. And I think communication is a really big deal. I learned from my previous relationship that I'm very much so over-communicative, if you will, because I need everyone to know where I'm at.

And so I know that John can say that I am very vocal about my feelings and what's upsetting me, what's making me happy, and giving him backstory. So that way he knows what he's doing is affecting me in a certain way. Um, but that's all I can do. What he can do is listen to that and try to navigate our relationship with that information I'm giving him. So if you're choosing to not, I don't know, communicate, if you're choosing to have that stuff go in one ear and out the other and cause problems, then that's on you. Can I just say that dating a financial guy or an engineer? like they have the same they're it's hard to communicate like it's hard for them to communicate

because they think in a different way there's something about it one i'm sure when you're so analytical yeah maybe not necessarily numbers driven but your your nine to five is focused on something it probably is hard to turn that off turn that off and then feel like oh i can let out my feelings and i can talk about my emotions and i can yeah yeah i see that no yeah it's tough Like for me, for example, I'm very analytical, but not in the same way like an engineer or, you know, like a finance guy is, but when it comes to, it's like I have to learn to turn it off, you know, I'm listening to an argument and poking holes in it and I'm just supposed to be having a conversation, you know, in my relationship. So you have to learn how to turn it off. And that comes with age and experience, you know. I wasn't always able to do that, and I still struggle with it.

And so it just sounds like maybe you guys were on two different pages. Is that fair to say? It is fair to say. And I definitely told him, I'm like, hey, honestly, I just want you to experience a little bit more life. I feel like you just need to live a little bit and learn a little bit because I feel like I can only do so much and I can only give you so much insight into me. But if you are just stuck in your own ways and you're like kind of trying to dive in deeper to what I'm trying to tell you, it's and make issues, it's not, it's not going to benefit us in any way. And how old is JPJ? He's 24.

24. I know. Everyone says that. But he has like a legit job. He does have his feet on the ground. Yeah. You know, he was the youngest in his firm for quite some time now. You know? Like that's a serious gig that he's got over there.

See, I just have a weird thing where I when I was the bachelor and they asked, okay, what's your type when we're looking? I was like, I don't have a type, but I just want them to be my age or older. I was not looking to date anyone younger. And that's just me personally.

And I've dated guys that are younger than me And obviously it didn't work out But I'm like I need them to like be on my same level And to have experienced enough life And obviously it takes men a little bit longer I think than women to grow up and mature And so I mean props to you because I Feel like I would maybe have shut down

And just like seeing only the numbers And so I'm glad that you still opened yourself up to somebody Who and you know everything For the most part he does sound great It's just the age barrier and the communication and maturity. Yeah. You know? I mean, John is definitely not the typical guy I would go after in the sense of his age and his fun, goofy nature and all that kind of stuff. Usually I look for a guy that's a little bit more serious and a little bit older and all that stuff. But that's why I went after him because obviously I'm not finding someone with switch it up. Where my standards are. So what if this guy is exactly what I want is just packaged a little differently, you know?

Like, I feel like, oh gosh, I said I was going to ask you tough questions. So I'm just asking because I want you to have the opportunity to just be completely clear. J.P.J. said that he moved to L.A. for you. Well, one, is that true? Because if it is, then it kind of goes to the listening that you need him around. You don't want to do the distance. It seems like he was really trying to make the relationship work. So did he move to L.A. for you? And this article makes me, it makes me upset, to be honest with you, because he, obviously, John wants to be closer to me. That's one thing. But he did not move to L.A. for me. And the fact that that's like the headline really does piss me off.

Because since the very beginning, and I've told my friends, my family, like everyone knows this. I will not have someone move for me unless we're in a serious relationship, whether it be engagement, whether it be we've been dating you for four years, whatever it is. I did that in the past, and I ended up resenting that person. And it's because I quit my job. I uprooted my life. I moved away from my family and my friends. And I became depressed.

I was not happy. But I did it because I wanted to be with that person. Yeah. So I know how that feels. And the last thing I would ever want is for John to quit a job that he worked so hard to get. And that's what he went to school for, move away from his family, his friends, come to a town where, you know, L.A. is not for everyone. I hate L.A. I'll never move to L.A. Okay? Let's just be honest. So for him to come down here and then just not feel himself and then say we didn't work out. And now he's here. And why did he move here?

He moved to because he wanted to be an actor. And because he was getting auditions. And he didn't, it was just easier for him to attend those as opposed to flying out. That's why he moved here. And he knew that story since the very beginning. So now what people are like, well, Tasha, he just uprooted his entire life for you. It makes you look like the back. Come on. That's why I hate when people just read headlines and they don't like listen to other sides or even read the full story.

And I will say like coming off of the show, you're, like I said, your entire world is kind of flipped up upside down. and you have so many opportunities, so many invites to all these great places in L.A. because everything happens here. And I'm sure, you know, being a guy coming from the show, you have all this new found notoriety and attention. And of course, like, it's fun and it's shiny and exciting. So they're definitely, I could see why he would move, especially if he wants to be an actor to come to this area, because that's where it's all happening. Right. But for him to just say, oh, I moved here solely for her.

That does make you look like the bad guy. And there's much more to the story, which is why I go back to communication. It goes back to, are you listening to me? You know what I mean? So don't make it seem like something else when it's really not. And I've like poured out my heart and told you how I feel. Do you know what? And I think that's fair.

And thank you for being honest about that. And I think what perpetuates the storyline even further of he, moved it from you, you left him, making it seem like you weren't as interested in him, as when you have other people from Bastra Nation start putting their input into whatever the story is. And I think that that's not fair because only, truly only you and JPJ know what happened in your relationship, as many times as you tell the story. But because we're all a part of this franchise, when another person from the franchise speaks out about it, it holds whether true or not some clout because they come from this franchise.

So I'm going somewhere with this story. Are you cool with Dylan? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't think there was anything wrong between us. But apparently there is. So Dylan tweeted, right after your announcement, Color Me Shocked.

I think everybody took that as a reference to what you had just announced. Yeah. And I'm asking if you're cool because, first of all, I'm trying to take away the fact that he, actually even knows what he's talking about when he when he tweets that but when you see things like that how does that make you feel it's like really like you saw us in paradise number one okay you know us you know me why you're stirring the pot you're just putting in other people's heads like you're validating like their speculation about my relationship and you don't even know what

I'm talking about or my relationship so what's his input I don't understand honestly I hate I don't, well, and I don't get, like everyone has their opinions. Everyone has the right to comment on things. I don't get the pointless tweets and the pointless comments. Like, for me, it's just kind of a waste of everyone's time. It's kind of like, you know how we all get DMs about everything? And half the time, it's like, why did you even feel the need to type that out and take time out of your day to write that and then take time out of my day or everyone else's day to read that when you're not going to even give any more context to it? It just, it doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. make sense to me. Oh, it makes sense to me. I think it's just purely for attention. Yeah. And just for attention. I think Dylan doesn't, because we were fine on the beach, I don't know if he doesn't like me anymore because Hannah and I had

like a little bit of a tiff on the show. But the thing is Hannah, if Hannah did that to me, I could understand. Dylan, okay, just because you're her fiance, now you're going to like poke fun at me and like try to like start a fight with me. It's dead and done. Like, Hannah and I are not

feuding. Why are you Are Dylan and JPJ friends? I wouldn't say so. Okay. I don't think there's any beef there on John's part, but apparently maybe on Dillans. Yeah. So going back to Hannah. Yes.

We saw some tension happen on the stage during the finale. Where are you guys at now? We don't communicate. So it's just dead and done and move on with? But that's nothing. Like that's nothing different. Like we were never ever texting each other all the time or hanging out. So after Colton's season, obviously, where you met, were you ever close on that season or was it more?

Because I get it, like living with 30-some girls, you're not going to be best friends with everyone. There's definitely girls on my season, well, Ari season that I, you know, I respect them, but I don't ever feel the need to text them or checking on them. And you don't have to. You don't have to. And I think that that's a big misconception. We've talked about it here on the podcast, is that people think because we all, came from this world together that we're all supposed to be best friends you can be friendly and cordial and that's fine but my god the show's been on for 17 years it's exhausting there's so many

of us there's no way yeah yeah no for sure um but no i really it it i'm really glad you were being open and honest and spoke about like other people having their input on issues they know absolutely nothing about because it's just you know you're already going through your own thing you know people forget that you actually experienced a breakup and you're trying to get over that. And so is John, you know, in his defense as well. And now you have to defend yourself to people you don't even know when things like this happen. Right. And they have their own platform. They have a lot of people that follow them and look at, you know, look up to them. So if you're just putting it out there is just bad juju, stay away from me. Can I just get some detail about it because I obviously it's a show so

things are edited in a certain way and, you know, things that don't seem like a small deal could be bigger, things that are a big deal that are shown probably aren't as big. So what was, so you make it seem like you and Hannah didn't, you know, it was more of just in understanding that you guys didn't need to be best friends. It was pretty, there wasn't like any real feeling or tension. Was there tension going into Paradise or was it after the fact that she had been dating Blake and then he took you on the first date and. there was no tension going into paradise at all with any of the woman um i think it just just the way

things unfolded it was just like it just i'm usually upfront and honest that's just how i am apparently i was naive going into paradise thinking that you actually like genuinely meet people on the beach to try to date them and not prior to the show so maybe that's my own problem but it just rub me the wrong way that's it's as simple as that and so i confronted her um at the end the finale or the reunion, whatever you want to call it, we did say, like, hey, I'm sorry like that. Everything was, it blew up the way it did. Let's just move on and be happy. So that's what I'm saying when Dylan says this stuff, it's like, obviously you still harbor some type of like anger towards me. And in your mind, it's already in the past. It's done. It doesn't need

to be brought up again. Move on. What? I'm over here. I'm, I'm muted my, no, I'm muting myself. I like, I hate that that you had to defend yourself when it, when it comes to that. But I like that you spoke on you and Hannah, and I like that just because you don't have to be friends, but you guys squashed everything, you've just moved on with your lives. And that's good. Like, I'm glad to know that there's no beef when it comes to that. And even though Dylan did insert himself with a tweet, I hope that that doesn't stir anything up, because I think you and Hannah are cool, you know, moving forward. I mean, yeah, I saw it and I just rolled my eyes. Yeah, because you and Hannah were Colton's top three. I mean, that in itself, very few people experienced,

that sort of feeling that way of dating. And so in some sort of sense, I would hope that you guys have that mutual respect for each other to get to that point and know what it felt like. And, yeah, again, you don't have to be best friends, but to still understand, we went through something. And when I say, it bonded you in a way. It doesn't have to be like a best friend bond, but it's still bonded you and you guys understood it.

And so then to kind of go from that into paradise again where you're potentially dating the same people, you just have to understand, like, that's the name of the game, but you don't have to, like, hate each other or be besties in that situation. Right. And I think even more, so, not only were you to the top

three, but because of the way that finale ended and there was just so much attention around it, not just because of the fence but just because of what happened to you and Hannah and how you guys were let go, I think you also shared something too, even more so

than that's never happened before. I never experienced quite like that. Yeah, I was with Lauren and Kendall in my top three, but that was more standard. It was more of the show structure, but yeah, yours goes beyond that. It's just a little different. And like we also message each other actually right before that finale with Colton that we were like, you got this. Like we're supporting each other.

Yeah. Girl power. We got it. And it sounds like y'all still do support each other. I hope so. Yeah. It really does. At least on my end, you know. You know, something that you said stuck with me to maybe think of something else when you talked about coming into paradise and you didn't realize that all the stuff that had gone down before and it's, it's new. It's really, I always, I compare it to sports, it's tampering. All this contact before, you know, Paradise and some people are a fan of it, some people

are against it. I personally am on the side of being against it. I know there's going to be some communication, but not like the way things went down. Right. Is it extreme this year? It was a lot. Very extreme. It was. And it got ugly and messy, and we saw it play out before, during, and after. Paradise. But

I feel like you have such a different perspective coming into this entire franchise because you are a minority in the sense of you have been married before and then you've experienced the heartbreak of losing that relationship and the divorce and you went through some things in that relationship and I remember you talking about it on Colton's season. Do you feel like that does really affect you as far as how you navigate these relationships when it comes to this franchise? Of course. I'm not going to waste my time And that's the same thing with, like, how it worked out with John and I in paradise.

It's like, I'm not going to waste your time. I'm not going to waste my time. If I'm not going to feel it, I'm not going to say I'm going to, I feel something when I don't. You know what I mean? And also with Derek, I didn't see potential there. So I'm not going to lead him on and be like, oh, let's play around and stick around. Like, that's not the name of the game for me. It's, I'm trying to find someone.

You know what I mean? Well, and which it seems like this season, not for you, of course, but for others where I was, this is a friendship rose. and I want to give it to you to stick around longer and hope that you reciprocate next week. And again, I haven't watched all of Paradise one full season just because I get antsy and I can't just sit. It's just me, but I did watch some of it.

And so it felt, I mean, I know the premise of the show, of course I've seen bits and pieces, so it seemed weird that that was for some people the motive. Right. Where it didn't feel like, then why are you going to Paradise? Like, why don't you just have friendships back home? And that's my point.

like figure it out at home. You clearly like each other. Just why do you need to go on the beach? You know what I mean? I'll tell you why. Because you have a month long vacation in Mexico. I heard the shrimp tacos are amazing. They are bomb, actually.

The food is amazing in paradise. I hear paradise is miserable. It is miserable. But the food. I would go just for the food. Can I take a break from Garrett for a month? So we're just going to get the shrimp tacos. She's in vacation.

I can hook you up. Who are you close with in the franchise? who do you consider a friend um there's actually quite a few um sydney she's a real one Nicole um Christian actually has become one of my really good friends as well demmy's Christian mm-hmm um who else Catherine do you guys remember Catherine I actually met her and she's very sweet she's literally everything I love her who's Catherine Catherine she's one that interrupted Colton four times with the dog um what Who else?

I don't know. Kirpah. That was my thinking, oh, my God, I'm going to get so many messages saying, like, Tisha, really? You forgot about me. There's a few of them. You know who you are. Yeah. They know exactly who they are.

I was asking that question for a reason. Why? And I just forgot my question. I was going somewhere with wondering who your friends were, and I forgot. How about the guys? Any of the guys? I don't text them often. if that's like what you're asking

I'm trying to think I don't know It's a weird world It really is It's there's a I can't even remember My name half the time So to like

I will say I'm still friends With a couple of the girls In my season But only a handful Yeah Because it's There's just sad Those are the girls

I mentioned I text like daily Yeah You know what I mean Well and those ones live so close Right So I mean except for Nicole But like I swear

Nicole would fly down here Tomorrow if I needed her So Oh my gosh The scene Was it was it you That like push her in one of the, there's a meme out there that I, I think I watched like 27 times because

I thought it was so funny. It was, what was it in context? Well, we don't have to get into that. No, what, what did she push her? Me pushing her on the bed? Yeah. Oh, it was, was it about Angela? Yes, yes, yes. It's because Angel had walked by and then like, as soon as Angela walked by, Nicole was like waving and I was just like, get out of here. Like, we're done with that. And so I pushed her head. Oh, I've missed that part. It's on Instagram. I'll show you later. No, it's good, though. Do you feel? Do you feel? like after your breakup with J.P.J. that you need a break from this franchise?

I honestly, right now, I feel like I can actually breathe. Which is weird. No, it's not. Do you feel like you have some of your not independence, because obviously you guys weren't living in the same area, but just that you now don't have to worry about like explaining that relationship any longer to people besides with us? I am so tired of people saying what I'm doing is fake. Like,

Are you seeing me, like, cry at night? Are you seeing me, like, laugh and, like, spend time with my boyfriend? No, you're not. I'm also tired of people constantly asking me where someone else is. And I'm just like, I'm just with my girlfriends. Like, can I live for a minute? Why do you think that people immediately, their first thing is, oh, she couldn't possibly like JPJ. She's doing it for followers.

I don't know because maybe, like, on the show, John was so head over heels. And, like, I didn't know I wanted him the second I saw him. So I clearly am not in it. Do you know what my thought was when people said that? you, I was like, okay, I'm just going to call a spade a spade. Tacea's black. Like, she knows that she's not going to get, like, top-notch followers in this franchise. So her dating JPJ is not going to give her, you know, like millions of followers.

So next, try again, please. That's really what I thought. If I wanted followers, wouldn't I be posting about him every second that I had? Right. That perpetuates. Every second that one. Yes, the likes and the follows. I get, it annoys me that people said that for you.

Like, why can't she like JPJ? Why can't it be real? Right. And I don't know you that well. You've spent a little time together, especially on the podcasts. But you just seem real. Like you seem down to earth. You don't seem like you're somebody to like chase the fame like I've seen with other people coming from the show. But so that's why I thought it was weird.

I will say when I first heard that you two were together. My just thought was that is the strangest couple. It is sure. Yeah, of course. Only because you, from what I've seen, you're just so down to earth. you're eloquent, you're mature, and J.P.J. I've only met once at the wedding, but he was just a character. He was

great to chat with, but he was a character. So I was just taking aback when I heard that you guys were together, but I would have never you know, I didn't think like, she's not the type of girl to like aim for the fame. Yeah. I've, come on, I'm 29 years old.

Okay, I'm not trying to be something I'm not at this point, and I'm not going to put myself in a situation just to do it. I just, I just don't. You're 29. You've been married and divorce before so for you it's like it's not a game it's serious and I think that people really need to take that in perspective into perspective

and not just look at it as like oh he seems to be goofy okay but why can't he be so much more than that there's only one other side you're saying of him you know I know him better yeah right and we'll take that back to like why I fell for him in paradise is because he can be silly and goofy and I have that

side too but also at the same time when the cameras weren't around we did have very intellectual conversations We had spiritual conversations. We just, we had good conversations that I, like, connected with him on. But that's the boring stuff that they never want to show. And he gave so much good, funny content that, of course, that's what they're going to air. But there was more depth to him, and not a lot of people saw that.

And so people were just like, well, why is she with him? I have two really random questions. Yeah. Number one, when you drew him, do you still have that? You know what I think the Bachelor office has it. Someone has it. Can we get that? You can't please?

Also, did you actually draw him because I, well, I also have a very small TV. It's like the size of a microwave. So I need a magnifying glass to ever see anything. But did you actually draw him? Yeah. It's a person. Yeah, well, I mean, I would have drawn like a macaroni noodle or something. It was hard.

But yeah, I really did try. Are you an artist? I'm not an artist. Actually, my sister is a phenomenal artist. But, I mean, I'll try. You're probably way better than me. Not too. Question two.

Sorry, I'm totally going off topic here. I'm clearly not a great. Oh, I was, Rachel. It's all about the conversation. No, yeah, go back. But I want to know, okay, watching your hometown on Colton season with your family, your dad, he's a hard ass. Like, he's tough. You can clearly tell he cares about you, which I appreciate.

But how did he feel when you came home? Well, not necessarily when you came home because you didn't go back to JPJ for a little bit. But did he ever meet JPJ? And how did that go? What did he think of him? It's a good question. He met him via. FaceTime.

And the first thing he asked me was like, hey, I just want to make sure your stomach's okay because like Jane tried to kill him with the hot tacos. And he's like, were you really vomiting like that? Like, are you okay? He's like, come over for some good food, that kind of thing. But he, honestly, my dad, my parents in general, they just, they trust me. So if I'm going to bring someone into my life, I know that they're going to have my back and they just trust my judgment.

Right. so yeah what's your relationship like right now with jpj no with john do you all still i know it's fresh yeah but when you've ended the relationship how did you guys walk away from each other i mean we saw your post but it was you know it was an instagram post and it was politically correct if you want to if you if you if i could phrase it into anything and it still wasn't correct for some people well you know you can't please everybody you can't make everyone especially in bachelor nation but how truly how are you two right now and did you talk about future how you'd be moving forward um honestly john and i had a really good um conversation our last conversation

was really good um in st and monica when we met up with each other it was just we both feel like it's just not the right time for us and we don't want to um completely cut each other out of each other's lives right now right now we can't really keep talking because we we need to kind of move on and heal, but we will be friends. Whatever the future holds, the future holds, but I don't know. I just still think he needs to kind of realize that I was a real, I was real and I was just trying to be like upfront and honest, and I was just trying to honestly create a foundation for a real relationship.

I wasn't trying to play games. I'm not a 24-year-old that's trying to like, I don't know, mess around. So what's next for you? Like, can I just say selfishly in my mind? I'm like, okay, no offense to JPJ, but I'm like, okay, she's single. Like, I really think I'm a really good matchmaker. I have matched people up who have been married, so I'm like, okay, going down the list in my head. Take your time.

I'll have a list for you when you're ready. Okay. Why don't we just nominate her for the Bachelor Live on stage tour? Oh, I meant Bachelorette. Let's take it. Let's take it. Oh, or Bachelorette, yeah. Rachel's thinking long term.

I'm thinking I just want to hang out with people. We know you've got to. a new show coming up February 13th y'all make sure you get your tickets now you can get them at bachelor live onstage.com there you go Becca but I will say Tasha if you were the bachelorette okay I was telling Rachel this a couple days ago

I feel like no offense to the show because it has done so much and brought so much obviously brought me my fiancee but so much for me but it's lost a little bit of its luster because I feel like now I'm a grandma watching

and I just feel old And sort of disconnected. So we're the same age. And I'm not calling you a grandma by any means, but I would love to watch some, not to say people aren't there for the right reasons, but you seem like you really want to find your person. And I would love to watch that.

And I would root for you. Thanks. I'd call in. I'd give you my vote. Let me tell you something. You're not going to come back and co-hosts if you call yourself a grandma one more time. Because if you're a grandma, I'm already in the grave.

Like the dirt just hit the top of the coffin, okay? Like, we're, like, no. Who was it? Wasn't it someone on Colton's season that, I think she was my age that got called the grandma. Yeah, the girl who's crying in the closet. Elise, oh, Tracy. Her. Yeah.

I related hard to her. Did you? No, no, no. I loved it. I wore it. I was like, I'm the mama of the house. So what's next for you, Tasia? Um, honestly, right now I'm just, I'm working, but I also, I'm traveling.

I'm living with my, I'm doing stuff with my family. I don't know. I'm just living life. Good. As you should, surrounding yourself with love, light, people who feel the same way about you, who know you, who get you. One more question before we go, I'm a big New Year's Eve person. It's my favorite, I love Halloween too. Well, let me back it up.

My birthday is my favorite holiday. Then I love Halloween, but New Year's Eve is my favorite, favorite holiday. There is just something about I am one of those people who really buys into the, it's a fresh start, things are starting new. I get my planner. Yeah, like I need to be surrounded with the right people and bring this in the right way. Right. So 2020's coming up. Do you have any personal goals that you're setting for yourself going into the new year?

That's a good question. To be quite honest with you, I have nothing planned, not even for the next week. Maybe that's it. Well, maybe March could be your busy time because it's when Bachelorette starts filming. Oh, my gosh. I'm putting that good at each other right now for you. All for it, Tasia. But no, seriously, maybe the plan is having.

no plan, right? Like taking everything day by day, step by step, and just seeing what happens and what comes into your life. To be honest, it's like the first time in a long time. I can't even tell you how long, in my 20s that I have like no agenda. Just focus on you. And I think that's when the best things come is when you are settled and good with yourself and not like dead set on any certain thing because that's ever possible. I mean, I'm not to say that's ever possible, but do you and I think good things will come. I just want to be ready, you know? You are. ready. You just put it, I'm put it out there. Say it with us. You're ready. Oh, she's ready. She's ready. We're almost Tiffany Patterson. You guys can't see this when we're giving each other

high five, but not actually connecting because we are filming a podcast and the sound would not be great. But listen, Tasha, coming from two former bacheloretts, you've already heard Becca say it and I second it if we were, if this was a real meeting and I could second the motion. We both think that you'd be a fantastic bachelorette, so we're putting it out there for you. Would you say yes ask you. Yeah. Girl, you took too long respond.

Yes, she was. It was. Opportunity of a lifetime. Make sure we all cut out that pause, okay? Let's just cut out those two seconds. That she paused. I'm not going to be exhausted, but it's well worth it. It's so worth it.

And just think of it as you're in control. I remember, I tweeted that for you, Becca, you were in control. I think I used some corny, like a driver. Some corny. I did save your vagina. No, yeah. It fucking worked. I remember.

I remember. You were in the mansion doing all that. I was like, what do I have over here? And Dubey and Rachel's like over in my private part. Let's get this right. But it works. She's right. It did work.

Well, we are team Tays show. We are team you. We are supporting you. We're putting all positive energy your way. Thank you. I know. I think great things are going to happen for you. Absolutely.

So thank you so much for being here and a part of the Bachelor Happy Hour podcast. Next week, you guys, we have the man, the myth, the legend, Neil Lane. I think about him every day because I think about them when I look at my finger. He's giving me three rings on my finger. And also, of course, I have to have another Bachelorette here

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