Bachelor Happy Hour - The Audacity! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into some of our fan questions! We kick off the episode asking-- When was a time you were backstabbed by someone close to you and how did you mov...e on? Then, we’re diving into today’s questions, and we can’t help but wonder: Where do people get the audacity?! Our listeners are experiencing all sorts of betrayal, from cheating to not quite cheating and lies on lies on lies! Kathy and Susan are giving the harsh truths and these stories are sticky! Plus, we end today’s episode with Susan’s dream game — “What Would You Do” — where we finally get to hear what they would do in these twisted scenarios! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members
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Starting point is 00:00:43 And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us today. As always, we are so excited to be here. How are you doing? today, Susan. I'm getting there, trying to heal, and I'm so glad to be back here today, answering all of the fan questions that we get. Don't you enjoy those, Kat? I love it. I love hearing the updates.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I love hearing what people are up to. I love it when we get compliments. Yeah, that's always a good thing. And so everybody, make sure you keep submitting those because we enjoy and love reading them, giving you advice, hearing your feedback. And you know how to do it, right? Just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit away. And don't forget, we want to hear from you everything, your questions, your updates, all of it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 You can also DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. We do really want to hear from you. And Kathy, there you go. We get DMs then. I never thought about it that way soon. I just did as you were saying. Okay. Okay, okay. Let's get into today's episode. And we're going to start with the question of the day.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Here we go. All right. You ready, Kat? When was time you felt backstabbed by a loved one or a friend? And what did the relationship look like after? And how did you personally move on from it? Okay. Only funny things come to our mind. That's not backstab. I know. Just funny. Oh, man, I don't have an answer for that one. Backstabbed by a loved one.
Starting point is 00:04:37 One came right to mine. Okay, go. I know I've been taught to forgive. And I think it's been 20 years. I don't know if I forgave. Well, let me help you. I'll be the priestess today. Let me help you.
Starting point is 00:04:56 do you need forgiveness for? I have moved on from it, but as far as ever speaking to that person, she's not in my life. So it was ugly. And, and yeah. Are you going to tell me? You're not going to tell me. No, we just consider it something that I... So the relationship is over. Oh, it's been over. Yeah. It was really ugly, but I don't understand the difference between forgiving them and letting go. I've let go. Like when you see people go to jail, like, you know, or they killed somebody and parents forgive the person, like in a car accident or something, you know what I'm saying? Right. I think, I don't know. I think for me, I can forgive people, but I often have
Starting point is 00:05:48 trouble forgetting. Forgetting, yes. Well, you never forget. Right. So, but I think, I think when Something happens to me that I need to forgive. I always go back and say to myself, who has the power here? If I don't forgive that person and move on, it's hurting me. It's not hurting that person. You're right. It takes up your energy. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Just the thought of it. Yes. So that's why I try to forgive. It's hard sometimes to forget. But, you know, I really try. going back reading this again it says a loved one or a friend it could have been a relationship like people out there i'm sure the man cheated on you that that's hurtful right i don't think that backstabbing that's not backstabbing not well not to me that's cheating saying a secret is just
Starting point is 00:06:42 like telling you tell him if i said to you susan i don't want you to tell anyone this swear to me you won't. And that's backstabbing. To me, that's backstabbing. If you call up Nancy or say, hey, you know me, loose lips over here. Well, that's different. But I'm saying if you purposely do something to diminish me as a person, that's backstabbing. Have you ever backstabbed anybody? I don't think I have. Oh, I just did you a couple days ago. What? She's lucky she's in Texas. That was too easy. you walked into that one. I don't, I don't knowingly backstab people. I think it sometimes, oh, I'd like to tell this person, but I really try not to do it
Starting point is 00:07:35 because, you know, at the end of the day, it's not really kind. And, you know, I want to be thought of as a kind person. I think I am a kind person. You are a kind person. And how you move on from it. And for me, that means time. because time heals. Well, no, forgiveness heals.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Forgiveness heals. Yeah, I don't, yeah, you struggle with that. But I don't. I think once I made the decision to forgive, then I forgive them. Was that the same of letting it go? I let it go. I let things go. I have let many things go.
Starting point is 00:08:12 With friends, I have been, if something's happened, the friendship may change. but I've let it go, meaning I'm not going to harbor it in my... Yeah, it's forgiving. I'm not going to harbor it and say mean things. I'm going to let it go and live my life and be happy because if I don't, I'm just giving away my power. I'm giving away my positivity to somebody or something else, and I'm just not doing that. And holding on to negative energy. So, Susan, when I backstab you again next week, I want you to remember, I love you and my relationship with you. It's really important in our friendship,
Starting point is 00:08:48 but, you know, I may backstab you next week. Just do the front step so I could see it coming, please. Okay. All right. So we are going to get into our fan questions today, which you and I always love doing. Please keep them coming, folks. I'm going to read the first one and let's see what we have here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Hi, ladies. I need to vent, L.O.L. I've been with my boyfriend for about five months. I'm in college and he's been out of school for a few years. I always drive to see him because he doesn't have a car, which I was fine. with for a while, but I finally got him to come visit me for once. I was so excited, but the second he met my friends, he started drinking to calm the nerves and completely embarrassed me. I had a whole day planned with my roommates and he just made an ass out of himself. And in his drunken state,
Starting point is 00:09:39 he told me that his ex reached out to him and it stressed him out. He swore he left her on red and just wanted me to know. I was like, okay, thanks for telling me. But I noticed him acting weird after that, so I checked his phone. Turns out he was planning on FaceTiming her that night once he got a chance. Annoying. That is not how I would describe it, but okay. Anyway, so my question is this.
Starting point is 00:10:08 How do I break up with this man? Susan, can we just stop the question for a second? Really? You need to ask? I broke on. Let's finish. Anytime I've mentioned a break, he sobs and begs to the point where I feel so uncomfortable and trapped. I don't even know how to put it into words.
Starting point is 00:10:24 How do I get through his victim complex and break this off for good? I've been so done with this relationship and this was the final straw. Help me get the message across to him. Please, please, please, please. Thanks, ladies. Susan, let's say it together. Oh, this is a no-brainer. One, two, three.
Starting point is 00:10:44 dump him now or yesterday let's go back so why did he need to calm the nurse because he's meeting his girlfriend's friends who stresses about that some people get nervous about meeting other people however you and I can safely say this question has so many inherent problems number one, getting drunk, you know, is, it just brings all sorts of problems anyway. He's clearly a cheater. Um, right? Well, he's going to, he planned to chat with her on FaceTime. So the drunk ass, stupid ass told her about this message. First problem. But what she's asking us is how do I get this message? You don't have to do anything. Block his ass. It's over. It's over. You're a big boy. Okay, Susan, I don't know who this is.
Starting point is 00:11:40 We're going to call you anonymous. Susan and I are going to roll play. Don't break up with me. Tweety, listen to me. Listen to me. Learn from this. Okay. This is not normal.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You don't do these things and lie about it. I'm guilty for looking at your phone. And there's a reason I look because you're fucking guilty. Move on. Forget me. But I know I wouldn't say it like that. You know what? See, that was way too many words.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And you who always say, keep it short. Less is more. Less is more. You know what I would say? Let's say the guy's name is Joe. Okay. Joe, I've been an idiot taking you back, not this time, by. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out and it'd be gone.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And I think Anonymous, you might need to get a little bit of help here because you don't want to be with him, but you take him back. I think you might have some self-esteem issues or something else going on here. And she says, help me. get the message across. We're helping her. What help do you need? Their words. Tell him straight up.
Starting point is 00:12:44 What part do you need help with? You want us to do it? Yeah, really. Give us this number. We'll call him. You're done. You're out. And you know what, Anonymous?
Starting point is 00:12:53 Once you dump his ass, it's going to open your brain and your heart to better, healthier relationships if you do the work. If you figure out why you kept taking them back. I mean, when we get these questions, Susan, I'm always, like, what is not being said or what's behind the words? Yes, and Kathy, you know me with the empathy thing.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Like, it takes me forever to break up with a guy so I can relate. However, everybody comes into your life for a reason, a season, you know, the same. And it's just time to accept you're not happy with this behavior. so you could say it as kindly as you like or as mean as you like but say it but when she says she feels trapped i'm like she's i don't know there's a word for it and i can't think of it right now because she's she's trapping herself like he's not setting a trap she's falling for his sob story she's got some self-esteem issues maybe she's afraid to be alone i don't know this this whole question that you sent to us and thank you for doing so is not about him it's a
Starting point is 00:14:04 about you. Yes. And that's what we want you to deal with. Look in the mirror, talk to yourself, get it out and say, I'm better than this and I deserve better than this. That's right. And you know what? Sometimes it's hard to say those things. If I, it was me, I would keep it short, anonymous, and just say, I'm done. And then I spend my time. She's great, but short and sweet. You are. You are great. Well, I'd call, I would get some help, you know, a friend, a therapist, somebody and say, help me figure out why I kept jumping back into this. But I wouldn't waste a lot of words with him. And just a few weeks ago, I don't know, a month ago, I was having a yucky kind of day
Starting point is 00:14:44 and you're the one that said, did you look in the mirror this morning and say, I am worth it, I am lovable, I am love, I am, all positive affirmations. I really believe that's true. And there's something in this girl's life where she doesn't think she deserves it or she's not living her positive best life something so anonymous get after it we are going to send you positive vibes get it done and then get some help to figure out why you you kept this complete fool in your life and even though he cries yes you feel bad for him but you're helping him in the long run you guys are in college you have a whole life yet now's when you learn now is when you do this
Starting point is 00:15:29 and you move on from it. Susan, she's been with this guy five months. The ink on the first love letter is barely dry. And she drove all the time. So many red flags. Get rid of him. Let us know. We're sorry if we sound harsh.
Starting point is 00:15:46 It's just that we're old as Methuselah, and we know that this is not going to end up well for you. So get rid of him and find a new guy and get some help for yourself. And then let us know. If you're looking for a release and say, do the right thing, you just got it, okay? Yes, yeah, exactly. Thanks for doing it, though.
Starting point is 00:16:07 All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas a comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities,
Starting point is 00:16:20 government hop-out boys, hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. just out here mandarin all over the place, the turfs, and of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot,
Starting point is 00:16:36 and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. In America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports,
Starting point is 00:16:53 which is part of the reason why we're in the situation we're in right now. Listen to the hood politics with proper. podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
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Starting point is 00:18:52 But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents and there's life after Congress and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:19:29 you get your podcast. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, we're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special Bestie and you're not going to want to miss it. Get in here! Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is The Deva of the People. The Deva of the People. I'm just like Text Your Ex.
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Starting point is 00:20:21 Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club As a part of the Marco Tura Podcast Network Available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, Kat, question number two, and this one is from Claire. Hi, ladies, I need some advice. I just found out that my ex-husband is engaged.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Our divorce finalized a month ago. What do I do? I'm honestly distraught. I don't want to be with him anymore. We split due to the typical falling out of love slash terrible to no sex like stuff. But this honestly really hurts. To make matters worse, he's engaged to his secretary. Please just tell me some things I need to hear right now.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Thank you so much. Okay. His damn secretary, you ask. Oh, that's not fair. that is not fair susan it's a month obviously you know where my head at his at he's been seeing the secretary for quite some time okay okay maybe he has maybe hasn't we don't know don't jump to conclusions i mean i'm right there engaged to her in a month come on was a divorce six years i don't know but here's the thing that you were you took the thought right out of my mouth yeah we don't know
Starting point is 00:21:45 how long they were separated we don't know any of those things and maybe be cheated, maybe didn't. That's not the point. The question here is, Claire, you're asking, what do I do? You don't do anything. You're out of his life. So she says right here, I don't want to be with him. It doesn't matter she wants to or not want. They are divorced, Claire. What do I do? Start dating. Go out with your girlfriends. Take a trip. Read a book. Take flower arranging. Bake a cake, but stop thinking about him. Because it's over. And open a bottle of wine. Or two.
Starting point is 00:22:24 He's moved on. I really don't. I'm sorry. I mean, I don't mean to sound harsh. I'm sure that it would be hard to hear. And I'm sure you're thinking like Susan did. Yes. He's in.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He's already just, we just got a divorce a minute ago. And so you're probably wondering. But it should only sting for a second because remember, you didn't want to be married to him. Right. And sex sucked. I was going to say, go find some. better sex, Claire. Go find a good time guy for a night. It'll clear your head. And I get the typical falling out of love. That's what happens. I mean, it's not easy. I think marriage, it's not just
Starting point is 00:23:07 being in love. It's being a partner with somebody. So you weren't partners, obviously. So the love part goes away. I know because I lived through it. And the sex stopped. This is a no brain. I think it stung because, number one, it was a secretary, and number two, it came immediately after the divorce. And we get that. I would say number three, I think what Claire isn't saying, I'm reading a little bit between the lines here, she's probably surmising like you did, Susan,
Starting point is 00:23:39 that he was with that secretary before, and that's probably what stinks, and she just doesn't want to put it down. So, Claire, if that's the case, it sucks. Maybe you didn't know, too. Exactly. If you didn't know, if you still don't know. And Kathy, don't.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Some divorces take a few years. So they could have been living their own lives for a couple of years. But because the papers came in and he's engaged, you know what I'm saying? So it could be a lot of things. But you know what? You want to hear us? We're telling you it's okay. It's okay to feel badly.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But again, it's about living positive life. Don't spend your days feeling hurt. Go spend your days doing something. positive for yourself that way you know go on a date yeah yeah go do something for you and the hurt vacation yeah go to you got some money out of that before oh now we're getting down to it go to st martin that's really nice how much money did you get clear come join us for vacation we'll make you laugh but thank you cla thank you for writing again and and i'm really sorry yeah good luck and sorry that you feel that way okay the next question is from nina she writes
Starting point is 00:24:50 Hi, Kathy and Susan. I feel like I'm about to lose my mind. I just found out that my best friend of 10 years has been talking shit about me behind my back for our entire friendship. I found out because she sent a message about me to me by accident. Then when I blocked her from viewing my story, that's literally all I did, L.O.L. She went on a rampage and started making up crazy lies about me to all of our friends. Turns out this isn't the first time she's done that. The biggest lie was telling everyone that I was in rehab when really I was in the hospital dealing with some severe medical issues.
Starting point is 00:25:30 My question is this. How do I heal from this? I feel like I can't trust anyone and I'm spiraling. I'm away at college. She's still in our hometown. So I feel so disconnected from all of my friends there. I don't even know if they are my friends. Any advice would be great.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Thank you. Wow. That's sad. You know what? I know she's hurting, but that girl, karma's a bitch. I feel sorry for her for what life is going to be given her. You don't do things like that. You don't spread lies.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's bad enough if you're going to spread secrets, the backstabbing part, but to make up bold face lies. Did I tell you that story, Kathy? I think I did on another podcast. When I used to pray that I would develop boobs, you know, at the splash party and that that thing went out, Susan Bacola Stolves, and I came out and bare it all. But she's not home to defend herself. So do you think she should put out something on social media to embarrass this woman or this
Starting point is 00:26:39 girl? Not at all. Here's what I think. Simply move on. Nina, you're young. You're in college. I get it. It stinks.
Starting point is 00:26:49 you've obviously known this girl, I'm guessing it's a girl, could be a guy, but you've known this person for 10 years, so probably since you're teenage years. And to find this out now is brutal. I would say to you, I would not do what Susan said. I would not put anything out on social media. I would not put any negativity out there because negative breeds negative. So if I were you, I would let it go when you get home from college at Thanksgiving, Christmas, spring, break, summer, whenever it is the next time you see her, I would have a sit down with just her. And I would say, here's how I feel. This is what, you know, blah, blah, blah, go through all but with her and say, you really hurt my feelings. And I can't believe this happened.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Do you want to be my friend because if you do, you can't do this again? and let me tell you wait I had an experience like this with a very good friend and I've never told this story before I just in talking about her it just came back to my mind I had a very good friend
Starting point is 00:27:59 who when she would get worried about me she would call my kids and of course you know my husband's gone my kids were my kids are worried about me right if something happens and so last time she did this
Starting point is 00:28:15 and my kids panicked because they couldn't reach me. I was out playing golf and having dinner and I turned my phone off. Well, they thought I was dead by the side of the road. Anyway, when I called them back, my children had called them like 10 times. I found out she had called all of my children and said, I can't reach Kathy. I don't know where I was, by the way. I don't know why she did it. But I called her and I said, I can tell you, it was a guy I was on a date with and she didn't like the guy.
Starting point is 00:28:42 So I don't know. So I called her and I said. said listen you cannot ever call my children again you cannot do that i said if i'm dead by the side of the road my children will find out if i'm in the hospital they will contact my children if you want to be my friend you can never do this again can you promise that and she said no i can't i said our friendship just ended and i'm just saying it's short and sweet where my mind's going When she received the message about her accidentally from this gossipy girl, she says she blocked her.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You wouldn't confront right then and there, make the phone call? Like, whoa, I'm sure you didn't mean to send that message to me. And why on earth would you be saying something untrue? Because she's in college. Yes. If I sent you a message and I meant to send it to Nancy, okay, and it was trashing you. You're only going to block me. You're not going to call me. Susan, Susan, I have a newsflash, and I hope everyone's listening very carefully.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Neither you nor I, come to think of it, Nancy, either. We're not in college. We've lived a lot of life. I'm saying I could see it where Nina might be so hurt that, oh, I just want, I just want to block this. I just want to, you know, I want to forget it. But clearly, that doesn't work, which is why I suggested. Sit down with her. Something came to mind, Kathy. Remember when I tried to hold it in when something happened between people we know.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And I did good for like a week and they were all on a Zoom call together and I washed it. Yeah. Let me just say, Susan Gidd's great advice. She doesn't always take her own advice. She doesn't always follow through. I remember this phone call. I was like, oh, my God. I thought you thought I was coming through.
Starting point is 00:30:45 bachelor nation needs to hear this they think susan is miss sweetness princess sweet i am oh really you don't i am to press the wrong button exactly i'm a italian remember the bat kathy and i have the reputation of being i have a bat at all times and i'm exactly the opposite so bachelor nation figure it out anyway nina it's a delivery i know nina here's what i'm recommending i think susan would agree sit down with her when you get home from school. If you can't resurrect or remediate or repair, I don't know where all those are words just came from, the friendship, then it might be over.
Starting point is 00:31:25 It might be over. I agree to a point, Kathy, I wouldn't give her an opportunity to be my friend again. The damage is done. And I personally, as I sit here while you were talking and I'm listening to you, would probably put something out about why I was in the hospital, not saying she said or did anything this friend and thank you for all your well wishes i had a severe
Starting point is 00:31:50 whatever the problem was so that the world knew she was there and then the people that were told she was in rehab they might question that friend they might or they might say oh god it's true and she's putting up this fake story about being the hospital that's why i don't say anything i don't justify stupid mean rumors with response i just don't people are going to believe what they want to believe her friend what do i always say to you what do i always say to you when we talk about the mean people saying stuff about you and me online what do i always say last week about wearing a bikini i said get your negative thoughts and throw in that right who cares what they say i care what you think of me because you're my friend but if people who don't know me on
Starting point is 00:32:34 the internet who cares so nina good luck let us know if you in fact do repair the friendship Well, can I say one more thing? When you get home and you talk to those other people, not the person, but the other people, you could bring it up and say, I was so hurt by that. I can't believe that she told people and maybe they get some feedback. Or like the other person would say, we never thought that. I think you're pity. That's keeping it a lot.
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Starting point is 00:37:55 We're going to play a game. It's time for games. And you know what, Susan? It's as close to moral quandary as we. can get. No. But no, listen, we're going to answer all your dreams. Your dream is about to come true, Susan. You know why? We're going to talk about what we would do. You do not have to guess what I would do. This is a perfect game. It's the Susan show. You're going to say what you would do, and I'm going to say what I would do. So here goes the first one.
Starting point is 00:38:23 We're making Susan's dreams come true. I don't have to guess what Kathy's going to say. That's what I said. It's Susan's Dream Day. All right. Okay. What would you do? if your first date brings up their X multiple times and even compares you to them. Do you call it out or let it slide? Well, I wish all could see Susan's face. That's happened. That has happened. And honestly, at that time, it was whether I was wanting to get to know this guy or not,
Starting point is 00:39:01 I know within three minutes going on the first date, whether I'm going to see you again or not, but multiple times, like sometimes people do bring it up and to compare me to somebody. So it happened one time, and he was a widow. I felt so bad for him. Kathy, by the fourth time, and I looked at him in my face, my eyes tell awe. I'm like, really? And he goes, I'm so sorry for doing this, but can I just show you? I said, of course.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm about to throw up in my mouth. Kathy, I have a twin. It was scary. She was a hairdresser. She looked, we looked just alike. I mean, maybe our features were a little. The hair, the body, the height, the, and he said to me, wait, what is he, oh, he is a widower.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Yes, she passed. He wanted to marry the ghost of Christmas past. And I like the guy a lot. I really did. And he said to me, I don't think I could see you. It's too much. Oh. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I know. I mean, that is really weird. Good for him, though. You know, good for him for knowing. And like I said, I would have seen him again. He was a nice guy. I think I, this, this, an ex, a widower, that's not an ex. That's a death, right?
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yes. So this is different. If your first date brings up their ex. brings up their ex. So, you know, for me, I'm out. I'm not a first date, you know, down the road maybe if he was talking to me about. And that's another conversation, by the way, that we can have someday whether or not, you know, how much do you want to know about your current boyfriend exes? Trashing them. Like they're saying, yeah, that's a red flag. That's a red flag. I'm saying I don't, someday we're going to have this conversation about whether. How much do you want to know about your current boyfriend, of which I don't have one? But how much you want to know about their exes, right? I want to know a little bit of where you're coming from, but I don't need details. Everybody's got a past.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah. Right. So anyway, I would call it out and I would let him slide right out the door. Okay, Kathy, your date gets a little too drunk and starts making a scene. do you stick it out or end the night early okay my god i can tell you mine's a real quick answer i'm out the door i do not like down the dumber as soon as you start that's right i'm out goodbye see you i'm going to go to spend that at susan's house who's ever close okay next okay you realize you have zero chemistry but they seem really into you do you give them another
Starting point is 00:41:52 date or call it quits early what do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do you do Susan? I stick it out for that date, and I'm usually a little, I don't want to call myself a puss, but I'll text them that I didn't feel what I needed to feel. But I'm not going to go out on another date with them. Right. I also would stick out the date. And then if they called me for another date, I would say I have a horrible case of cholera. I mean, I want to make sure. What is cholera? I don't tell. want to make sure they're not coming. I want to make sure they don't want to be around me. It's extremely contagious. And it's contagious. Can you see the guy now,
Starting point is 00:42:33 Escanol's friend? Do you know what collar is? All right. You see your friend's partner out with someone else. Looking a little too cozy. Do you tell your friend or do you stay out of it? We've had this conversation. We've had this conversation. So the word friend is the hard part. Like I, yeah, I'm not kissing and telling them, but I've seen people that put their wives weren't my friend. Wait a second. I knew the woman.
Starting point is 00:43:07 If it is you? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If it's you, me, Nancy, I don't know. Yeah. I'm, oh, no, I am saying it. Yes. If I see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:19 But if I just see. you know, a friend, I don't know, it could be a business meeting. That's where you get yourself into trouble, you know, it could be their cousin. It could be, no, I'm serious. It could be family. It could be a cousin. It could be someone in from out of town. I never mess with that stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I don't know that I would do an immediate phone. Yeah, I don't either. I think I would keep my mouth. Mind your own business. Yeah, mind your, but again, it depends on how good a friend it is. Yeah. And how cozy. I mean, if they're sitting making out, it's probably not a business meeting.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Okay. Your tongue was down her throat. I probably would address him before I'd address her. I'm going to give him an app here. Point my eyes to his eyes. I see you. I'm watching you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You know what? Bachelor Nation, she would do it too. Be scared of Susan. She means what she says. All right. You agree to go to a party, but when you get there, you realize you don't know a single person. What's your move? Oh, that's easy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Yeah, we're easy. Hey, how you doing? Exactly. Hey, I'm happy. Nice to meet you. Jebapel, Suzanne. That's right. Hola,
Starting point is 00:44:24 come on start. Yeah, no, I don't know how long I'd say. It depends on the feedback from the crowd, I guess. Right. But why would you not know a person if you're invited to a court? Maybe the person invited you got sick or something, who knows. But I will say, you and I've talked about this as well. You and I can both walk into a room, not know anybody, and make friends and talk.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And it's actually a gift, and I'm grateful that I have that gift, and you are too. And it's the smile that's warming and welcoming. People want to know, what do you smile? Just walking with a smile. Hey, and you know what? Get people to talk about them for a little bit. You got a new friend. It's great.
Starting point is 00:45:02 All right. Go ahead. All right. Your friend borrowed something valuable from you and accidentally broken, but hasn't mentioned it yet. Do you bring it up or wait for them to? So I'm taking it that they've already given it back to you and you realize it's broken? I say to me,
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yo, what happens? You owe me. And she means it, folks. I'm going to be honestly, something valuable. I'm very careful about lending. He lends, yes. I don't borrow. Well, you said that, but I happen to know for a fact, you do. What did I borrow? There might be, when you took your last trip to St. Martin,
Starting point is 00:45:46 because you needed some additional beach cover-ups when you, went to St. Martin? Oh, no. That was forced. I know you're talking about our dear friend Don and let me tell you, does she have some gorgeous things? We love our friend, Don. She insisted that we take. We love our friend Don. Don, if you're listening, we love you. All right. We do love you. I just don't lend something that valuable. All right. Well, if you did, Kath, I want to know. Would you say, hey, I just noticed that it's broken or it's damaged? I probably, I probably would bring it up. Yeah. I probably would. nicely yes yes okay all right we agreed again guys yep we're agreeing that's a new friend a new friend
Starting point is 00:46:29 always forgets their wallet when you go out together how do you handle it oh we've had this conversation before they get there i remind them she does i swear i've heard her do it i've paid the last two times don't forget your wallet that's yes yes i mean because then you're not going to be friends with them anymore if they consistently you're going to shy away i have to tell you i have a friend this is how people get to know about us these things make us tell stories i have a friend here beth who has a couple of friends who do not reciprocate and beth is always inviting people over for dinner and for drinks and for lunch and she has you bring everything no and she always no i always she always has me over for dinner i always bring a bottle of wine that i know you and when we go out for brunch
Starting point is 00:47:17 I always stick my credit card down and put hers on mine because she always has me for dinner, always. And as people know, I don't really cook very much. So I'm so appreciative. Well, then if you're out and you pick up the tab. But other people don't. They let her pick up the tab. And I'm like, I keep saying, Beth, don't be so quick with the credit card.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Sit back and, you know. And Kathy, you told me that. Yeah. When I'm in somebody's company, I go, no, I'm staying there. You know, let me. Yeah. You got to, you know, you got to, you know, I, it's uncomfortable. It can be uncomfortable, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:49 You don't want to breed resentment. No, you know. Exactly. Good point. So let your credit card stay in your pocket a little bit longer. Next one is you accidentally like an old Instagram post of someone you have a crush on. What do you do? Absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Nothing. Like it. You have a crush on him. Hello. I hope he noticed or she or whoever. Yeah, that's a new green. Oh, my gosh. We're agreeing way too much.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Well, it's going to be a good day, Kat. All right. You and your partner planned a big night out, but they cancel last minute for something that doesn't seem important. I don't know, Susan, what would you do? Doesn't seem important to me or was important. Yeah, obviously. It doesn't seem important to you, but they canceled.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah, I would definitely be disappointed. I mean, obviously, you have to accept the fact that they canceled. Oh, you're not going to say anything? Who are you trying to kill? Who are you lying to? I want to know why. And when you tell me, that's why I'm going to say, really, I'm not. that depends on what the reason was you know
Starting point is 00:48:49 either way the disappointment will be there exactly I think I would do exactly the same thing and I would let them know you know what it comes back to communicating if I say what's okay no problem I'm likely to say hey John I was looking forward to seeing you you know but that's okay maybe we can do it another night it's better to be you know it's a better
Starting point is 00:49:13 it is better answer to be yeah okay go Your significant other makes a joke about something you're insecure about. Do you address it or brush it off? Address it. Yeah. Immediately. Yeah. And I know we're taught to wait to you get home.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Like we read one of these questions a few weeks back, a few episodes back. And they, the husband and wife or the couple, I don't know if they were married. And they agreed if anything like this should happen, you never say you just go about the party or whatever. you're at and wait until you get home, that would stew in me, Kathy, like a fire being ignited. I would look like a dragon by the time we got home. And she would, folks. But they're not saying that this, that the significant other is doing in front of other people. They're saying, you know, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:50:04 It's like I'm dating, you know, Joe. And Joe makes a joke about me interrupting. you know you're just you choke up you're not insecure about that well actually i am i i'm trying to be better about um you know about or you know kathy uh something you're insecure about that i am insecure about that or so or joking like oh you were the only girl at the pool with a one piece on that was a lot of fabric that would that i'm insecure about that because i'd be upsetting it would be but well here's what i's going to say to you people say things and they and they they cushion it by saying oh it's just a joke it's not a joke it is not a
Starting point is 00:50:51 joke so if my significant other makes a quote unquote joke about something i'm insecure about you know what that is it's cruel and they know what they're doing and they're not making a joke they're either making fun of me or trying to make a point and it's not nice it's not nice it's not nice so all right you're casually dating someone and they tell you they don't believe in tipping at restaurants. Is this a deal break? Can we answer in unison? Yes. Yes. Because I'd have to tip every time. Let me tell you something. I think when you talk about like red flags, when I'm on a date, if they are, never mind tipping, if they are not kind to the server, bending over backwards. Two of my three children were servers in restaurants. So I always tip close,
Starting point is 00:51:42 way over 20% because they work their tails off. I don't know if they're not good. If they're giving me half-ass service, they'll get the minimal, but they get it. Can I tell you why you need to tip them the right amount? This is my PSA. No, you need to tip the customary total amount. Here's the deal. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:52:01 It's a certain percentage, 20% of the bill. And you're saying if they're rude, you give them less than 20? No, I always tip the minimum, the basic. Oh, so you're saying 20%. Somebody treats me well. I noticed because I was a server as well once upon a time. Then they get, not double, but way more. You know, you're pushing it because you appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Okay, so here's a question that wasn't on here, but, you know, not all tips are, if it's cash, they don't have to claim them all. Do you tip in cash or credit? I try to, yes, most of the time I'll chip in cash. So what I'll try, you know, what I try to do, because they split the tips with the, with the bartenders. Sometimes nowadays, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, right? So if I, so I'll usually put it on the check because I wanted to get split with everyone that help prepare my meal.
Starting point is 00:52:51 But you know what I'll do? Sometimes when I walk out, I'll take like a $10 bill out of my wallet, depending on the price of the mail, and just shake their hand and say, thank you so much. It was a delight having you for serve and hand them. And that money is meant to go to them and they know it. And you know, when we all go out when all the girls are together, we all throw cards down and we add the tip to the car. And we always over, we as a group, always leave a big tip because that's the kind thing to do. Round it up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:19 All right. All right. You're on a date and your date says something you completely disagree with, but you still like them. Do you challenge them or change the subject? Oh, come on, guess what this last wait. Let's just guess what the other one would do. What would Susan do? What would Susan do?
Starting point is 00:53:34 I would say the same thing Kathy's going to do. We challenge. We challenge. Yes. I would have won the moral quondon. Susan, I'm going to tell the producers, we want to go back to moral quandary. No, no, no, no, don't get excited. Do not get excited.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I think we did well. This game worked for us. This game worked so well for us. I just want to know, I just want to, before we wrap it up, and we only have a couple of minutes here. Okay, okay. So one of the most, I just want to say one of the things I love, I haven't had a chance to tell you this yet. One of the things I love about Bachelor Nation is when we have people on the podcast, we get to know them and we get new friends. And can I just tell you, Ali Joe and Juliana, like, I have Juliana's phone number now.
Starting point is 00:54:24 She's like, the Newton girls, they're so nice. I feel like I've made new friends. I know. And the past guys that we had, if we knew them from the show, but getting to talk to them and digging in and. I just, I just, I just want everyone to know that the friendships, we're blessed, and the friendships that we make through Bachelor are really friends. It crosses age lines, though. I just feel so grateful to be making all these friends. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:55 So that's, that's the PSA. This was so much fun. And our producers and our podcast people. We love you all. Thank you all, though, to our listeners, for joining in and listening to us today because without you and your questions and your comments, we'd have nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:15 And make sure you follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour because you know us, we have a new one coming out every week and you don't want to miss. I mean, really, for Kathy and I to agree on just about everything today, that's a win. It is a win. Although maybe they want to hear us argue, Susan. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:55:33 We do that too. We do. I mean, we don't agree. We could really. dial it up. But in the meantime, please submit your questions, your comments, all of it. Go bachelornation.com slash golden hour or DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. And listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. We'll see you next time. Take care.
Starting point is 00:56:02 All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcast. You know I'll get in on. You You come from the urban areas, you understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein. We had to reach out to the homie, Jamil Hill, because she's going to keep it a century. In America, what sells in politics are narratives and storylines. It's like we treat politics like we treat sports, which is part of the reason why we're in the
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