Bachelor Happy Hour - 'The Bachelorette’s' Tre Cooper Talks 'Men Tell All' and Why Tensions Might Be High

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

Tre Cooper, a fan favorite from “The Bachelorette” Season 17, shares behind-the-scenes details of his memorable ball truck entrance and the instant connection he felt with Katie. Tre opens up about his drama with the other guys, and why he’s expecting tensions to be high at the upcoming “Men Tell All” special. Plus, he spills some tea about his time on “Bachelor in Paradise,” which returns August 16!  Then, Becca and Tayshia weigh in on the difficult choices before Hometown Week and the importance of vulnerability. “Bachelor Happy Hour” has exclusive interviews every week. Watch “The Bachelorette” on ABC and listen to “Bachelor Happy Hour the next morning. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Welcome back, Bachelor, Happy Hour listeners. Thank you for joining us once more on this lovely week. And I have my girl, Tasha, back, ready for some action this week. I am here and I am ready to dive in to this last episode because a lot freaking happened. What was this last episode? It was the episode before the episode of all episodes, um, hometowns.

Maybe that's why it was like so intense. We started this week talking about how they basically cut the group in half the week prior. So like Katie's getting rid of men quick. And it's crazy to think that we're already at this point. I feel like quite honestly, we were just watching the premiere. But we only now have a handful of men left. in every single rose she's going to be giving out is a hometown rose i have to say i'm very very very excited for our guest today it is the one and only tray and um i think he's going to break it down

and give us spill some tea i can't wait to have him on he has been one of my favorites since week one he just he seems like such a sweetheart and from everything that i've heard from the other men and from katie about tray is he just is one of the kindest men i can't wait to have him on and see that for myself. But until that, let's quickly recap what we saw go down last night because, as we just mentioned, it is crunch time. And this week, I remember being both on The Bachelor and my season of the Bachelorette feeling finally the pressure hit me in this week of like, holy shit, we're here and I'm going to be

meeting families and they're going to be meeting my family. And like, this is when you start to feel. feel that switch where for a while it's fun. You're comfortable. You're having a great time. And then it hits and you feel this anxious pressure of like, I have to make some really tough, but like really smart decisions here. And I mean, you can attest to it. What were you feeling like when you were Bachelorette in this moment giving out those hometown roses? Well, kind of like what you said in the beginning, it's all like, I don't want to say all fun in games, but it kind of is. Like you're dating all these guys you're enjoying being the bachelor at and like really just having fun but i always said like

it's when the families get involved it's like it really puts things into perspective because i don't introduce a lot of people to my family so i could only imagine what these guys were feeling you know what i mean and so i just remember feeling like okay i remember what i'm here for it's getting down to the wire like this really needs to be meaningful connections and like i know need to be actually able to see these guys at the end of the, like at the end of this at the altar with me. And so that's kind of like what made me really nervous to be honest. It's just like I can't be playing around anymore. It's, uh, it's time to get down and dirty and also involve people's families, which really, really, really scares me. So it's not just their hearts in their

hands anymore. It's like the entire family. They get invested. And what's, I mean, like my aunt has always said this. When you pick a partner and you, ultimately get married in life, you're not just marrying that one person. You are marrying into each other's families. You take all of that on. And so it's so much more. And one thing that I found very interesting, at least when I went through it, is oftentimes, and I'm sure you get asked this all the time, is people think it's fake in a way, because it's a show. And they think that not everything is always as real as it appears. So I think this, and I will say families go into that probably thinking that or in the back of their mind of being like oh my son or my daughter has only

been away for a couple months at this point there's no way that this is real there's no way that they're falling in love that they're ready to get engaged and you know do all the things that this show is about and so for me at least it was so interesting to see that switch in people's minds and their hearts to be like oh uh the couple sitting in front of me actually does really genuinely care about each other and this could be something it's when they witness it for the first time in real life. It's such a game changer. And it makes it so much more real and present. And that's when I say, like, things hit harder coming up. And I think Katie, obviously, she hasn't met families yet, but she recognizes that. Yeah. And it's probably so much more intense for her because she didn't

make it to hometowns that Matt season. So this is their first time experiencing it. She's doing this alongside the men, which I will say, I think it's a really beautiful thing that they're all soaking this in and having to go through this as one together. Yeah, they're leaning on each other a little bit more. I think that's definitely true. I didn't think about that. It just makes it a little bit more vulnerable, I feel like. I mean, obviously, we were really vulnerable in that situation,

but we kind of knew how it went. Like, we can put them at ease. But at the same time, Katie's never even been in these shoes before. And so she's just like, okay, what do I do? And I was there, you know, firsthand experiencing that with her. So it's just, it's, this. This is when the feelings like really kick in and it's like, can I actually get engaged at the end of this with one of these people? Let me ask you this.

So when I started watching this episode, it started off, I'm just going to say interesting. It started off. I felt like something was off with Katie. And I'm going to just assume it's because of the pressure and because she's feeling this weight going into this week. But she just seemed, and it got better. I will say, because she had her first one-on-one with Greg, the day portion was fun. Something just seemed strange to me. So it starts off.

She has her first one-on-one with Greg. They do the Seattle date where they're throwing fish and whatever. It just, I felt like Katie's energy seemed off to me. And I was actually texting some of my girlfriends about it. I was like, does this feel weird? Like something doesn't seem like, like she's. present but not fully I think enjoying what this date could be. I will say it got better during the night portion when they actually sat down and could have a heart to heart in-depth conversation

about meeting the families. Yeah. And then they had this, oh my God, the rainstorm. Let me tell you that. I know. I was like, damn. Natasha, it was like watching. It was really good. It was like watching the notebook or some Hollywood movie. I was like, God, this is so hot. But so it will, it did it better but it just started off like i could tell katie was in her head a bit and maybe if anyone else felt that please DM me or let us know because i don't want to be the only one you are right you are right and i remember like transporting myself back there and just remembering how high attention was and like her feelings like it was all over the place at that point in time yeah and um she was just getting really nervous like again you have to understand

the week prior, five guys, like, went home. And so now she's looking around. There's seven people. Hometowns are literally around the corner. I think she was just starting to get a little stressed out and being like, okay, this is, again, just like we talked about, the games are like done. This is real. And I just remember her really struggling with letting go and just trusting what she had and just like really trying to just be vulnerable with the guys because I feel like she is also, like, we've talked about it. Like, she likes to be in control. She likes everything to go her way. Don't we all. Don't we all. And I'm just like, I understand that. But right here, right now, like, you're not going to know all the answers and you're doing the best that you can.

So make the most of the time with these guys right now. And just know that you're making the right decisions. Like, you'll know. Like, you'll feel it if you need to let someone go. Right. For example, why she put Brendan go. I mean, she just didn't feel it right then and there. And that's, told her you're going to feel it when someone comes up to you and you need to present your feelings and it's just like it's not something you want to explore because it's just not there yet um but yeah that conversation that she was having with gregg when she was sitting at like the little gondola thing she was definitely often i think she was definitely in her head i don't know it's so easy to get ahead of yourself in this process because for the longest time you have so many men but

when you have enough people, it's easy to kind of go from relationship to relationship. But when you actually have to sit back and when things get so strong and you realize you are on, you do have a crunch time and you have to make tough decisions really quick. In that moment, you just have to really go off of your gut and your heart. And I think that's what she's starting to do. And, and, but it's not easy. It's fucking scary because. It's so scary.

And as she said, she has so many good guys. all she's wanted is a good partner in her life and now she has a handful of them that it makes it that much harder to say goodbye and to cut somebody when they could potentially be an incredible partner in life. So it just, I feel for her. I know that I say it felt off, which I'm not bashing her in any way. I totally understand. I remember being in her position. So we see her send Brendan home and then at the end of the episode, Andrew S. did go home, which I did not see coming. I will say that. I was shocked by that decision. And then, oh, God, the moment when he showed up at her room and then left her, I, Tasha, again, this is like a Hollywood movie. It's just, he leaves her the note. And then she runs after him and then they embrace. I know. That jumped, that hug. Andrew. And just like, they don't make men like him. I telling you right now, they do not make men like Andrew ass. I, when I watched it, I texted one of the producers last night and I said, make him the bachelor, please.

I love Andrew S. So I mean, obviously, I know we still have a full other season to go through with Michelle and we will have hopefully many great men from her season. But Andrew right now is a top contender in my book. And I'm glad that he had that extra time with her to say goodbye, but to leave on their own terms and to leave how they've always sort of had their relationship, which is laughing and with smiles. And I thought that was a really beautiful thing that we were able to witness. So next week is hometown. obviously she has four men left. We'll meet four families. Yeah. I think it'll be, you know, a little make or break moment coming up. But also, we have something else coming up, which is Mental All. And obviously, I don't even think it's, it has not filmed yet. So we have no idea what to expect. But we can always expect some drama, some laughs, some tears. And of course, bloopers. So I can't wait to watch that unfold. It's one of my favorite episodes each week is the Mental All and the Women's All special because there's so. much more it's just real and it's like people go from living in the season to then coming back and forming friendships but then having to put themselves back in that scenario and back in that mindset of like what was it's really hard to do that by the way and i've never i've never i've attended a mental law but i've never been present at the women to law me neither

oh yeah you weren't either tisha i know only done the mental laws i know i know we're going to have such a good recap that week. So, because it's going to be crazy. We attended, obviously. And really, when we did show up to mental all, it was more of like, we had some, like, intimate interactions with a few guys. But we didn't really experience the craziness that the guys, like, get into. All I cared about is, like, I just wanted to make their jaws drop. I was like, I just needed a fierce stress. But yeah, you truly kind of walk in blind. Yeah. Which we will get into. When we see the mental all special, I cannot wait. But until then, I think it's time to bring the man of the hour on to me that I am so thrilled to finally meet.

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour, Trey. Hi, Trey. I knew I was going to like you night one. You didn't even come out of the limo. You came out with the balls in the truck. And I was like, I like this man. And you are bringing that same ball energy to the podcast. Big ball energy.

My own life is me coming out of a ballpark. one of the questions I was actually going to ask you is like so how deep do those balls go and I was like but my mom listens to the podcast and I can't I hope they leave this in too I hope they leave it in okay to all of our bachelor happy hour listeners we have Trey on and Trey is this one of the first podcast that you have ever done this is the first part of my life the first part of your life we're taking the podcast virginity I love that guy I love this oh my gosh balls really virginity. You know, we're just going to start off with a bang here, everybody. But no, in all honesty, Trey, we are so incredibly excited to have you with us. You've just had this vibe, this great energy, the entire season. And obviously, and unfortunately, we did see you go home last week. But how has it been for you? You know, it's one thing to be living in the experience of the show. It's another to be watching it back. So how have you been watching yourself back? And how are your family and friends taking it. Man, it's, first of all, I'm so happy to be here. So excited to finally meet you,

Becca. Nice to see you again, Tasha. Hi. This is a dream come true for me. I'll say that it's been a roller coaster. You know, I'm somebody that, you know, if they're like, you want the good news or the bad news first, I'm taking the bad news first to get it out of the way. And so for me, it's been hard to not, you know, I know you guys know it's better than anybody to like search your name while the episode's on to see what people are saying. And for me, I kind of look for the bad first. And so I got to stop doing that because I get a lot of love. And so I'm watching myself back and I'm like, yes, like I look happy. This is me. And then there's those moments where I get a little testy for a little better word. I'm like, what was going on with you right here? So it's been

up and down, but mostly up, I'll say. I'm proud. And then my mom, you know, I show my parents some love, obviously in my intro, very close family. So they were happy that I was just me. And that was the biggest thing for me out there, you know, when I'm talking to the guys and I'm talking to producers, just like, I don't want to come back from this and have people not be like, the people who know me, be like, yo, what were you doing out there? Or who were you? Like, the people who know me every week, they're like, oh, my baby. Like, my mom was like, when you made this face, I knew you were feeling this.

And when you said this, I could tell you where. And it's just like, that makes you feel so good to know that, like, I didn't turn into someone for this show. You know, I was a meet all the whole time. Yes, it didn't completely work out for me, obviously. But, you know, I grew so much during this. And I'm so happy to have gone through. I love that. I feel like when I say you have such a great vibe and energy, like obviously we've seen that on the big screen now.

Sometimes when people come on the podcast, you know, because you did say to us, you were a little bit nervous and you still just carry that good energy. And so I love that the tray that we saw on the big screen is the tray we're getting now, which I'll be very happy. Because since I won, like I said, you were one of our favorites. And I think you've been definitely a fan favorite for the past couple weeks. So starting out, it seemed like you and Katie had. a connection right away and you were somebody that she seemed to just really trust throughout the entire process did you again i was going to say coming out of the limo but coming out of the ball truck did you feel that that instant chemistry that connection with her it was amazing coming out of the ball truck you know i i was laying back there i think longer than people might have thought you know it wasn't like i know how long it was we were just like staring at the truck literally what seems like forever. And I mean, I'm not going to watch you guys. I was panicking under those balls. It was, I came into this thinking, you know, maybe I was going to pop out of the limo.

So when it switched over, I was like, man, like, I just want to not fall. Like, I wasn't even thinking I want her to like me. Like, that stuff came later. So then when I get up and I don't trip, I'm like, oh, you got this. You got this. And since she's smiling back at me, Katie is such an easy person to communicate with and to connect with that as soon as I like hopped out, you know, adjusted the suit. She's already giving me good vibes and good energy. And then when we were able to kind of circle back and have a chat, you know, I said back where it all began, the ball pit of love. You know, she was so easy to talk to, easy to connect with. You know, obviously the show has a lot of content depend to two hours, so you don't get to see the whole

conversation. But from the first conversation, I was like, yeah, this is a girl that I could see myself, you know, connected with. She's, she was it. The first day, she was it. Was that, like, a fear for you before, you know, doing your little entrance that, like, what if, like, we didn't have an instant connection. Was that something that you were nervous about? I think one of the things that even led me to do this in the first place is the fact that I've lived, I mean, I'm 26 and single. You know, I've lived up to this point kind of, for lack of a better phrase, scared of rejection. You know, I'm not a guy that puts myself out there a lot in the dating world. I'm very calculated. You know, they say shoot or shoot. I like to see that there's

the defense is laying back. And so, yeah, I was like, man, what if she doesn't like me? That was my biggest thing um yeah you know a lot of the i've seen a lot of the comments of people being like not to skip too far head but like every guy goes out there thinking about being a bachelor and it's like dude i just wanted one rose i would come out there and not you know be embarrassed coming back to my family being like yo this girl didn't even want to see possibly where it would go right i was super nervous just to i wanted to show her all of me but there's like a very small amount of time in the beginning where you can even show her parts of you and so yeah i was scared to be rejected for sure it's funny that you mentioned that um because obviously your intentions were genuine and

whatnot but we saw you involved in a lot of the drama in the house um specifically you know where i'm going with this um with thomas and wanting to be the bachelor and all of that those comments that were made so what made you decide that you wanted to reveal that thomas said that he wanted to be the bachelor to all the other guys into katy i think it's not there was not like one thing that was like now you got to say it. It was more so just how I've been brought up. Like my mom is a very, she was a stay at home mom as soon as I was two. And so she was very big on like drilling in core values that she felt were important to us. And one of those is when you're wrong and meet you're wrong. And you know, when you see something and say something. And that doesn't always

work out, obviously as we see. But it's something that I couldn't just, you know, I've been raised to to be this man. I've raised by this strong woman and a strong man to be someone of value. And And I have two older sisters, I think, which plays a big part as well. And so one of the things that was going through my head was, man, if this was my sister, that was the Bachelorette, right? And there was a group of 30 guys there. And they were all spending time with each other. And she didn't get to see, you know, everything that was going on with them.

Would I want one of those guys to tell my sister, you know, what they saw? And the answer is going to be yes every time. Right, right. And so for me, I think that's what it, if there was like a final thing that made me go, you know what, I got to say something. It's the fact that I thought about my sisters and what I would want for them. and you know Katie like obviously I hadn't known her super long but you start to catch feelings you know you guys know in this situation is different when you don't have

the distractions of friends or family or a job or your phone it's like you're you're you're locked in on your relationship and so I'm like man I want to protect this girl's heart even if I'm not the guy that ends up having and so right you know I got a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of flack for that but I don't regret it because I felt like after giving her the information whatever decision she would have made I would have been happy with you know if you were giving to Thomas a Rose and continue with Thomas and sent me home immediately, I'd have been like, you know what, I did what I thought was right at the time. Right. And that's all I can do.

Were you, I know you say you didn't have any regrets, but was any part of you worried that in doing that what the other men would say or think? So, yeah, when I said I didn't have any regrets, that might have been me speaking in the moment. I mean, it's tough. It's tough. Like, I do have regrets, but at the same time, there was definitely a part of me that thought that, you know, I was going to get a fallback from the men. I was surprised, but also reassured that, you know, 90% of those guys were on my side. Let me ask you this, because watching it back as a viewer, we all know, like, each week,

certain things, certain storylines get heightened, right? And I said this on the podcast a few weeks ago. I was asking Tasha because I was like, obviously, we're there. Was it just a super, super slow news week where this, the comment about, potentially wanting to be The Bachelor was the storyline that we're running with right now. And it seemed so heightened to the point where people, you know, we've heard, we heard the term manipulative turnout constantly. We heard psycho. We've had my own thoughts about those, those terms and that phrasing for this situation. So it's one thing to be living in it and, you know,

having these conversations with the men and with Katie. But watching it back, did it seem like it was so extreme and blown out of proportion. So that's one of the blessings of like being able to come back from this and kind of look back at it is that you're obviously not in the same heightened sense of like always on. I'll start off by saying, you know, the word cancer, I definitely apologize. You know, I watched the podcast and I saw what you said about it. And I don't remember saying that personally, but if that was me, man, you know, I definitely was in a moment and that was insensitive.

I met in like a cancer or something that attacks the body from the inside and it's hard to detect. And in the house, he was kind of, in our opinion, was attacking in ways the process from the inside and was hard to detect. And so I was trying to make that similarity and I should have picked a different choice of words. But I will say, it was definitely more heightened, but like I said, it's a two-hour show. You're not going to see everything. Yeah. Just know that without, you know, destroying anyone's character because I do, I consider them all brothers. And, you know, brothers disagree sometimes.

And brothers have, you know, arguments and brothers have fights. So going back to obviously, you know, you, we did see you and Andrewess kind of get after it a little bit, you know, in how you wanted to confront or not confront Katie on the situation. We see you then end up getting the rose, the group date rose that night. So what did that feel like? Was that just the validation you needed at that point? Or how are you feeling in that moment? It was tough. I'm not going to lie.

Get in the group date rows and seeing, you know, obviously watching it back, you know, like I said, they're showing the highlights of the conversation. You know, there's a lot more to that. that conversation, obviously, but at the same time, getting it after that specific conversation, I'm not going to lie and say I felt amazing. I felt good getting the group date rose, but at the same time, I wanted it to be under a little different circumstances because obviously after that, you kind of see, you know, Andrew and other people are like, oh, he got that because he said this or he got that because. And for me, it was like, the first part of that date was about being daring. And, you know, I got my buttwaxed. I did a bunch of things that were like, for me, just very,

out of my comfort zone, very daring. And then the second part, she was like, it's about truth. And that's been something that, you know, we were stewing over a lot. There had been a lot of conversations. And so I was like, I've got to be truthful with this woman, no matter what happens after that. So part of me felt great about getting the rows, but part of me felt like this is going to be the most questioned rows of all of them.

And it kind of was. Mm-hmm. Overall, because, you know, going back to the whole butt-waxing and that crazy date, what was your ultimate favorite date of the entire season? My favorite date was the day or date. Really? It's such a fun one. It makes me happy that you said that because obviously that was my favorite date on my season.

And so I, and Becca hosted it for me, actually. So I had to bring it to Katie's because it is just so freaking fun. And you guys don't know what to expect. And it makes you do the wildest things, like wax parts I don't want to know about. So I'm glad that you really liked it. I think that for me, like one of the things that was, you know, obviously we didn't know what we were getting into. So once they said, oh, you guys are paired up, I was like, please let me be with Christian. Like, I love all the guys that me and Christian were like very, very close.

Yeah. Matched so well. And so it was probably the most fun I've had like, oh, in my entire life, I'll say it's the top three most fun days ever had. Ever in your entire life. We laughed from the start of being there together. to the end of it. And, you know, obviously, the most I got to interact with you and Caitlin, you know, for the proposal and the pepper thing, I almost kind of threw up on you guys. You really did.

Moments of panic. And I think I was out of my comfort zone, that entire experience. But being with Christian, that was one of the few times where, like, it's not just me doing this. Like, I thought, oh, it's me and Tim. We were both panicking, like, and we chug the white claw before we did the pepper thing, which made it, like, way worse. We didn't know that, like, oh hey we're about to go do these peppers and so it got to the point where like I was leaning on him I was like yo I'm panicking here you and so one of the things that was cool was the food thing you know you saw the guys picking off their own tins I was like Christian I'm gonna pick yours you pick mine yes and he picked mine and it was mashed potatoes and I was like bro I would have

loved that I would have loved the mashed potatoes sure you liked the mashed potatoes try I made it look like I was like What would you have rather had? Did you want the Twinkie Tower? Not to give too much out, but I pulled Christians, and he got churros. Yeah, he really did. And honestly, they were bombed. I ate a couple.

They were bombed. And for the waxing, you know, hairy is part of your body. I'm not a hairy guy. And it's not a secret. I'm not a guy that, like, prides his manliness on the amount of body here I have. And so. I don't think anyone should. It's weird.

And so it's like, for me, really trust. And so it's like, for. me, I'm like, no, dude, I don't want to be sweaty. So when it came time for Harry's part of your body, I was like, um, Christian. And so luckily he was a big fan. And I think it came across well. I was panicking, but I would say that was my favorite date, long story short. Listen, Trey. Oh, yeah, that one was crazy. Speaking of waxing, the men on Tasia season, because like she said, I hosted that date, they waxed other areas. And then some of them ended up showing all of us where they actually wax

and so I think a little ass is okay. Like Zach literally wax a tea in the side of his leg and it probably was there for about like four months. It was actually fabulous. He was like kind of like keep it up at time. It's still there

Tasha. It's still there. In fact, he's not a lot to get rid of it. He doesn't never get a tattoo. What was your least favorite date? What was your least favorite date? Oh, that's a good question. I mean, so I said second favorite was the puppet show,

but then also I would say, well, least favorite was the roast. I'm not going to even, I forgot about it. The roast. The favorite. And because I am a very roasty guy. And that's why you see, I'm like, oh, this is going to play to my strength. Not meaning that, like, I love to tear people down, meaning, like, if this is a situation where, like,

we're going to have some fun and take some jabs in each other, I grew up with two older sisters who are very good at, like, finding stuff that would make me cry. and then just like pressing me on it and so I'm used to like the back and forth and so I was expecting to be a lot more of like a oh this person says one thing and then you can clap back and so when it was kind of more like a

we get asked questions and answer type of thing and then obviously kind of got to like piling on Hunter I was like ah and you can kind of feel it would be uncomfortable with this it was more of a debate at that point it wasn't a roast it was a debate yeah yeah it wasn't a roast at all okay

yeah it wasn't really even a debate because we weren't even allowed to, like, respond in the way that you would normally maybe respond in a debate. But I will say that, like, looking at it, it definitely felt more bully-esque watching it than it felt on stage. Right. But at the same time, man, like, Hunter's a girl man. And I do like that, like, when I watch his confessionals, like, he was definitely, you know, confident and not backing down. And you love to see that. Because, like, I said, we're all brothers.

And I would never want him to be, like, feeling like, oh, I can't speak up for myself for, you know, anything like that. I would say that that was my least favorite of the dates that I went on. I was the group date king, unfortunately. I never got a one-on-one. It's okay. It's okay. Don't worry. Sometimes the group dates are more fun.

They really are. It is actually true. The bashball date, I was one of the guys like Hunter, like I loved that. Like I loved, I grew up playing football. And so for me, you know, it's been, unfortunately, eight years since high school. And so I haven't tackled anyone in forever. And he needed to get that aggression now. It's like that toxic masculinity, but like a little bit of like, I wanted to hit somebody.

And like, I wanted it like in an environment where it's like sports and competition. And so when Hunter made that first tackle, it was like, oh, like shit, like this is real. Like I thought like we were going to kind of, you know, play around a little bit. And so once he made that tackle, I was like, okay, guys, like we got to get real. We got to get serious. And from then on, like, I had a blast. I also realized like New Mexico, people don't really realize it's like almost the same amount of elevation above sea level is Denver, and we were gasping for air, like 30 seconds.

The elevation is wild in New Mexico. Never thought that that was a thing. I could barely breathe the first two weeks I was there. It was the craziest thing I experienced. So yeah, playing sports, good job, guys. Can you spill some tea on something that might have happened that the viewers didn't see that you wish people saw? Oh, that's a good question. so T meaning like bad stuff that happened

Anything like something like really funny or something So I will say that like Oh there's so many things so I'll start out with this This group of guys was the funniest group of guys that I've ever been around in my life And I think that some of those conversations don't lend themselves to maybe like the romance And so they didn't make it but like Greg is a poet And like he did a poem for the for the for the roast and that kind of was like his funny thing like periodically every week he would like write a poem about what was going on and then come up to us

and like have a glass of wine and like he had this alter ego called Gregory James and he would come and like perform these poems and they were so funny and like they never showed him you that I love that me and Katie just for like the romance side of it her favorite food is sushi I'm pretty sure and you know I was born in Japan and so we got like a little sushi but you what I love this You were born in Japan? Yeah, so I was born in Tokyo. My mom was in the Air Force, and so I was born on the Air Force. Oh, my God, that's amazing.

It's just why we love having you men on. I have this weird connection to Japan that I just feel like the motherland. But when I was like, oh, she loves sushi. I was like, guys, we got to do like a sushi eating day. And so we ate some sushi at a cocktail party. You know, we discussed my weird sushi dipping techniques and how, like, she's dipped in the soy sauce the right way and I do it like weirdo. what's your weird uh sushi dipping technique so like well normally people take this hard to like visualize

but like okay it's a circular roll yeah dip it downwards horizontally right that's what normal people do but like for me oh you turn on the head yeah and like roll and like roll it kind of so get the outside right oh doesn't it fall apart then no and that's that's that's why she made fun of it because the entire thing would just disintegrate I'm going to need you to do a little IG live story of how you eat your sushi so all of us can see this. Unraveling with Trey.

Oh gosh, that'd be good. That's funny. I love this. That's my everyday life. It's just talking on, bro. So yeah, that was one of the things that I loved about that. Some other tea that was not shown. Huh. I feel like they did a really good,

they did a really good job of showing the super highlights. I would say besides, I was just like cracking up and laughing. and my I mean I made out with Katie that didn't make it I'm hoping I was just just once just one time the bad kisser the bad kisser uh not the commentary but the bad kisser maybe vibes that Connor felt I'm glad that like if anything no one can say that I'm a bad kisser yet because they don't know but I do wish a little party wish is that wait did you just say yet as in like you know you are and like it might come out soon well ah that's all you guys got me

This is a happy in life. You know, who knows? That is so funny. Well, so here's the thing. This is actually why. There's so much we don't see, but this is why we love men and women tell all each season is because we get the bloopers. So maybe moments like this will be seen.

Are there any moments that are blooper worthy with you? I feel like my whole experience is super worthy. I'll say there's a moment where, you know, Michael A, you know, we consider him like the dad of the house. He's grilling out. You know, I'm having my mimosas. I'm probably three and a half deep at this point. And we start to break out the dancing and singing.

And, you know, Michael A's freestyling. And, you know, I'm getting loose. And so I wonder if that makes the blooper real. The waxing definitely got way more interesting, way more spicy. Oh, my gosh. And I don't know about my puppet show, but also me around the house, I'm a laughing guy like I'd rather laugh through everything than, like, just be super serious and straight. So I'm kind of excited to see the bloopers, too.

I really don't know what is blooper worthy. But I'll say, I was cracking up 99% of the time I was out there. They're the best. Okay, I know that you guys always have each season. There's always a group chat with most of the contestants. Oh, my gosh. So is there one? We know that there is one.

Trey. Oh, she's good. Trey. There is one. The men have to have one. And it happens every season. Every season. Don't even try.

I would love to be a fly on the wall to be reading what you guys all talk about. So as we know, mental all is coming up. And you do say that there's sort of this brotherhood that you guys have formed. And obviously, you know, sometimes we like to leave the past in the past. But knowing that you guys now are, for the most part, friends and have this group chat and, you know, are back in the real world living lives and just, you know, building upon the friendship that you guys. formed at the resort. What do you think we can expect from men to all? Because when we watched

Women Tala last season, we thought it was going to be a lot more heated. It was actually very tame, very cordial, very mellow, civil, if you will. So what do you think we can expect with this mental all? That's a great question. I'm kind of also like

part of the answer is I don't know what to expect because you have such a diverse group of guys that are passionate and very like not afraid to say what they feel. And so on one hand, I think you're going to have a little bit of a romance. You're going to have a little bit of that good to see you guys again, happy to see you guys again, jokey type of vibe. And then you're going to have, you know, it's been a while since some of us have had that maybe resolution to tension. You know, the last time some of us

saw each other wasn't necessarily on great terms. And so you're also going to have hopefully an amicable resolution to some issues. You know, for me, I would definitely say, like I said I had no regrets, but I do want those guys to know, like, nothing is coming from a place of hate or a place of evilness, you know, in me. That was, I might have done it the wrong way, but at the time it was what I thought was right. I think you're going to get some important conversations that need to be had. You're going to hopefully see some guys open up a little bit more about how they felt about their exits. I know Connor B, man, his exit hit us hard, like hard. And so seeing him be able to kind of share, you know, a little bit more, because like I said,

We weren't able to be like, how did it go? How were you feeling? It was like a, hey, guys, I'm leaving by. And I was like, oh, no. So I think that you're going to get to see a little bit of that. You're going to probably see some arguments. And you'll see some laughs. I think more often, overall, I hope that there will be more laughs than anything.

You know, I think that, you know, we love each other. And that's not a secret. And so I hope that, you know, with these resolutions of these arguments, that we can come to a place of friendship. up at the end, but also, you know, there's guys that are not going back down. And if people come at me crazy, you know, then I might have to get into my testy bag. Oh, boy. Testy tray. I like it. I'm not going to lie. I'm really interested to see what goes down just because there are so many conversations that I feel like we still need a little bit more information on. And there were some tips between

you guys that I think need to be worked out a little bit more. So it's always interesting. I cannot wait for mental. But Trey, I'm super excited for it. Yes, ma'am. We also saw some other exciting news this past week that you will be on the beaches of paradise this summer. I wish all of our listeners can see Trey's not only singing. He has the head from back chest out. A little shimmy, shimmy shake here. Come on. Tell us what we can expect. How was it if you could Sum it up in one word, what would you describe your time in Paradise like? Oh, that was a good question. Give us two to three words.

It was nuts. It was a whirlwind. You saw the boy come out of his shell. Oh. So for me, Bachelorette, like I was, I started nervous and I wound up into like, oh, like, you can do this. Oh, she has a connection with you. She gave you a rose. And so then by the time I get to Paradise, I'm like, go for it, man.

What is the worst that can happen? And so I hit the beach, you know, running. Like, and I'm excited for people to see, you know, what happens. I don't want to give away too much, but it was a whirlwind. You see me more confident. You see me more, you know, assertive. Yeah. You see it's an interesting dynamic between people who kind of know each other and the

Katie's guys come in. And we have our own little sauce that we provide to the mix. That's dope, I think. So people are going to be excited to see what we, what we've done. we shake up. Well, I'm excited to see what you shake up because I feel like, it's so interesting because I feel like you say you came out of your shell. I feel like you were out of your shell. Yeah. As a viewer, it felt like you say that it took you a wild warm up. We never noticed that whatsoever. So that's funny you say that. I feel like I'm a nervous talker and it's something I told

the guys a bunch of times. Like when I'm nervous, I smile and talk and it comes across well and I haven't sawed I'm like, I feel this on such a deep level because I am the same exact way. And so many people are like, just say less sometimes. But I hate like, I hate awkward silences. I know.

I totally feel you. I ramble when I get nervous. And it's just like I could have admitted like maybe 52 of those words that I just said, but whatever. I'll go with it. I wish somebody had a buzzer and they're just like, okay, I'll stop. Hey, I mean, we could make this.

a thing one day if you really want it. I'm a hundred-down, the Traybos. Trey, this has been such an absolute pleasure. I feel like there's still so much that I want to ask you and talk to you about. But we asked all of our guests each week what was overall, I mean, your time of the season now that we've

seen you go home, what was your rose and what was your thorn of KV season? Oh. That was a good question. Dobby with that one. Hold on, let me. Oh, he's getting back to the vibe.

I guess, like I said, I go bad news first. So I'll start with the thorn. My thorn was just that I'm a passionate guy. That's not a secret. I come from a passionate family. And I think that there's times where, you know, the long nights and the stress of the situation led me to be a little bit more dramatic than I normally would be.

I would say my thorn was that I let small things become big things. Sometimes I want to keep the big things big can keep the small thing small. That's just kind of something I like to do. And in this situation, I think sometimes I didn't let that happen. So I'll say that's probably my thorn. And then also just not getting a one-on-one, I want a two-part thorn. Not getting a one-on-one for me, I felt like me and Katie would have had so much fun on a one-on-one because I made her laugh every time I talked to her. And laughter is like my biggest tool for me in romance. Like I want the center, at the center of my love, I want there to be joy and laughter. And so we had that. And so I wish I would have had maybe some more time

to tap into that. My rose, and this is kind of probably, I don't know if people are going to love this or hate this, but the way that I grew as a person, I would say that I came in there similar, and when I said I was similar to Connor, it's that we both shared our insecurities openly. You know, we came out there,

and it was a group of Adonis's, man. There's a bunch of gorgeous men out there that are like six feet eight. Like, Thomas is a beautiful man. Let's be real. The guy is, you know, cut out of marble. And so for me, it was like, you know, I popped out of that truck and felt good, but I walked into that room and kind of

felt like I didn't belong. And so for me, it was starting at that feeling like I didn't belong to like meshing with the guys, to connecting with Katie, to being like, oh, man, maybe I am a great guy. Maybe I do have like a lot to offer in a relationship. And by the end of it, you know, that's why I walked out with a smile. One of the things that was important to me was, I want to leave this how I started, you know, laughing and smiling with Katie. And I was happy, obviously heartbroken, but happy that I was a way better guy at the end of that. than I was at the start of it. And so my rose would just be the personal growth and the friendships that I got to make with

everybody. I love that so much. You're so interesting to me because I keep going back to your energy. You have just such a fun, loving, playful, just positive energy, obviously. I don't think anybody can fight that. But you also still seem like you are so grounded and mature. It's just like you're just a very well-rounded man. thank you for wording that not like oh you're a weird guy

no not at all i would never say well i mean look i'm really weird too so if i say you're weird i like weird i like you you're very surprising because you have just so many different levels to your personality that this is why we love having you men on the podcast because like you said there's only so much we can see in a two hour block each week and when you are filming 24-7 they have to cut out so much and so this is why we love having you on to actually get to know you get to know the inside scoop what makes you take who you are to your core and so I'm thrilled that we could have you on today this has been an absolute pleasure and you are just as worthy as all those other guys you're may have marble as well like don't even ever try downplay

yourself like you're there for a reason life always happens way it's supposed to so always believe that always remember that yeah yeah and that's why my Instagram bio is you are enough. And that was one of the things that was written on the little letters I read from my parents. And it's funny because they snuck those into my backpack. I didn't see that they were going to do that. And they addressed things that I didn't even tell them about. Just you are enough, man. Someone's going to love you for you no matter what. Absolutely. And that made me feel a lot better. So this is great. Every time, every conversation I have with you guys and with people from the show, it makes me feel, you know, a lot better. Like, you know, it's one thing when your parents tell you

you're great. It's another thing when people who don't know you would have nothing to gain, you know, tell you that, no, they like you. So it feels good. Absolutely. I was really glad to have this conversation with you. This is so fun. Thank you. This is an absolute pleasure. Trey, I'm sure this is not the last time our paths will all across. We have many more fun things in store when you become part of this Bachelor nation world. And so I'm sure we will see you again, have you on again very soon. But thank you for joining Bachelor Happy Hour today. Thank you so much. I hope you guys have an awesome rest of your week. good one okay stay in touch uh what to say about tray he called himself testy tray at one point and

i'm like he's terrific tray to me that was quick terrific tray i'm gonna call him um what else rides a tea and it's actually a really hard letter okay i would know because i'm tasha but like it's really hard yeah what do you i mean like anything good terrific tremendous tremendous Tremendous. Trey, Trey. He just has, God, I'm going to say this once again. His energy is infectious. It's tremendous. It's tremendous. It's amazing. I love this. Yeah. No, he really does. He's infectious in the sense of like he's always happy. He's always smiling. He has this bubbly energy to himself that you just want to kind of like keep talking to him and just it just feels good. So I'm so happy we had him on the podcast today. I am too. It's so funny because he told us a couple. times that he was nervous to do it and I'm like don't be first of all because no you were he was a fan favorite but yeah it's just he he just cares himself so well and he has like I said he has like this old young infectious aura if you will but then mixed with kind of an old soul in a way it's just like this weird like this cool chameleon type personality that I enjoy um so I hope everybody else

enjoyed that we will see him very soon once again on mental and He also is gracing the beaches of paradise. So if you're bummed to that Trey went home last week, don't be. We will see him again. So huge shout out to Trey for joining us. And for all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, thank you all for joining us once again. Please make sure to hit us up on social.

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