Bachelor Happy Hour - The Ball’s in MY Court | Golden Hour

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions! We kick off the episode with our question of the day: What are three things every couple should do before getting ma...rried? Then we dive into your questions! How do you stick the landing after a great first date? What do you do when you find out key information about your partner in a sneaky way? You asked, we answered! Plus, we end today’s episode with a Dating Sneak Peek game and some exciting news from Susan! Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, hosted the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by all-time great Hooper and basketball analyst Candace Parker, who gives insight into her candid new book, including why she waited two years into marriage to come out.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Make sure you listen to this episode, This is politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Why are TSA rules so confusing?
Starting point is 00:00:38 You got a hood of you. I'll take it all! I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called No Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do. Now, if the rule was the same, go off on me.
Starting point is 00:00:54 I deserve it. You know, lock him up. Listen to No Such Thing on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No such thing. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
Starting point is 00:01:12 If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We're so happy to be back. Hey, Kathy. Hey, Susan. How are you doing? Much better. Everybody's healing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 You know, I... How are you feeling? Well, you know, I had bronchitis rounds of bannerbox. I've been sick for a month. I'm just about at the tail end of it. You know, I really thought January would get me healthy, but it hasn't. And now, you know, what's been going on in California, you know, I cannot even. It's devastating.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I got to say, it's to me, though, I'm glued to the television, you know, have been watching. But it's more for me about, I mean, devastation. devastation, but it's, to me, it's the personal devastation of people's lives, not the things necessarily, although I know that matters to a lot of people, but, you know, I was talking to someone and she was talking about, and really it still almost makes me cry, she's talking about getting out and she has a young baby and getting her car seat and her stroller and her breast milk is left at home in her freezer. And anyone who's ever nursed, that's liquid gold. I'm thinking, You know, you and I are talking about, oh, I forgot broccoli at the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And these people's... I said earlier to somebody, I always know they always have fires out there. It's never been like this. Never. This is devastating. And the people's emotions, what they're going through, I hear you. And the, you know, again, things can always be replaced or not, but they're things. But people and lives and the emotions and the memories.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Somebody was talking about, you know, the places that they used to go for breakfast and the restaurants and the, yeah, it's like, it's like it's almost, people use words like apocalyptic and driving through hell. Anyway, I just, it's really bothered me and, and, you know, everybody that's listening, just take a few seconds of silence. How about it, Kathy, and just pray for these people. Amen. Also, if, you know, we talk is cheap folks. So, you know, our podcast has been recorded and it'll be out in, you know, who knows, but in the very near future. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:04:12 The need is going to go on long after the news cameras are turned off. So, you know, please think of those people and think of what you can do to help other people because we are grateful. We are grateful. We're reminded so many times of the hurricanes and the floods and now the fires. And of course for us, for Bachelor Nations, so many of the people that we know have lost their homes. So, you know, look for some way to help because, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:44 our friend Nancy has done a campaign about just one thing. And she's had it all over Instagram, just one thing. well, here is a great opportunity for people. You know, the holidays are over. It's the new year. Try doing just one thing to help these folks in California because many of them don't have insurance and they've lost their lives, their futures. They need to rebuild and that's not the easiest thing to do.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Okay, that was my PSA. So, okay, so today, it's not a good segue. There's no easy segue for what we're talking about, but we're going to try. We're going to be answering some of your. your fan questions. And send us your questions. You could DM us. You could go on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour, whatever avenue you want to take, reach out
Starting point is 00:05:32 to us. We're here for you. And the easiest way is go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and just submit your questions and comments. We love reading them. We love answering them. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Let's go. Okay. We got the question of the day. Kathy, what are three things you think? think every couple should do before getting married. Oh, heck. The first thing is, in my case, make sure the guy puts the house, the credit cards, adds me as an owner to everything. Let's start with that. That would be three right there. No, in serious, I mean, let's be serious. Traveling together is a good one because you want to go away with them if you're not already living together. Some people
Starting point is 00:06:19 live together before they're married, which I'm not opposed to, but spending a good amount of time with somebody. So you know, their everyday habits, how they shower in the morning, when they shower, do they clean up? Did they clean the spit in the sink after their toothpaste? TMI, Susan. TMI. Well, that would be a no one. I think you have to talk. I think couples and and couples can all do it differently, are you going to share, you know, having the finance conversation? Are you going to share money? Are you going to have your separate accounts? Yeah. How do you spend? How do you save? Those conversations. Who's going to pay the bills? Who's going to be in charge of, you know, the mortgage and the
Starting point is 00:07:02 every couple does it differently? Some people, you know, division of labor, right? And who's doing their laundry? Are we doing our own laundry? Or back in the day, I did the whole family laundry. My son and his wife, my son does his own. Yeah. And she does hers and the babies. I get it because everybody works. What about the conversation about do you want children? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Susan? That's a big one. Not for us. It isn't. Well, we don't have to worry about that anymore. But I think having kids, I mean, those are three big ones, finance, spending, lifestyle, living. Vacations.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Like, do you want to go on a vacation every year? what's your goal? You've got to put money away for that. You plan to do these things. I think with, I know with my three kids, two of them are married. All of them have full-time jobs. Yeah, that's why I said there's two working people now. Back in the dark ages, that is when you and I were young, a lot of moms stayed home. Some did, some didn't, some part-time. Yeah, my mom stayed home. Right. Now it takes really a two-income family. And so when you have- To afford it. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But the point is when you have both people working, you know, you've got to really split the duties because you can't get kids up. You absolutely do. And cleaning. I mean, you can't spend the entire weekend cleaning because you want to go do something. So you delegate, okay, this week I'll do this or you do this. That's how it works. I think you're setting yourself up for success when you decide. I absolutely, as you and I always say, you got to have these conversations.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You know, I'm always a conversation, and commitment, caring. I mean, it's all C words, but compromise. But you know what? I'm always amazed. We get people writing in who say, I didn't know that. They're shocked. They're like, I didn't know. You've been with them five years.
Starting point is 00:09:07 You never do. Like, really, you dated this guy for five years and you didn't know that he left his Dirty, I'm making it up, dirty clothes. Or he was a mama's boy, that one that we talked. Oh, yeah, remember that one? Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't know. I don't get, or the other one, let me just say another, my second PSA for the day.
Starting point is 00:09:24 When you're thinking about getting married or you're thinking about, is this the one? People, please listen, you don't change someone. What you see is what you get. And Susan learned that the hard way. I think we've all learned it the hard way. I always think that's the perfect. everybody. You can't fix anybody by yourself. No, just myself.
Starting point is 00:09:47 All right, Kath, we got some good questions today. All right, go, go, Susan. Go. Okay, so this one is from Maria. Hi, ladies. I love your podcast and the advice you give. You guys are the best. Well, thanks, Maria. I wanted to know what
Starting point is 00:10:02 amount of conversation should happen after the first few dates with someone. I feel like I'm always too overly excited when I'm dating in the beginning and can maybe be overwhelming. What kind of stuff should I be saying to these guys after the date when we're texting? I need help sticking the landing. How do I be smooth?
Starting point is 00:10:28 Thanks, ladies. Okay. Can I just say? This is me. This is me. When I go on a first date, I've had guys say to me, wow, you're a lot. lot. I get what she's saying. I think it has to wait till way after the first date. A first date? You don't even know if you're going into a relationship. But, well, no, I think
Starting point is 00:10:53 she's saying what amount of conversation. Like, I think she's exuberant. What kind of stuff should I be saying to these guys? Yeah, I think she's over exuberant. Like, oh, tell me this and tell me that. And I, oh, I really, and that can be off putting to a lot of men. I know first. hand it can be off-pending when the reality is I think Maria you're just you're excited about life you're excited about dating and you just are chatty like I am and that but someone I'm chatty though after the first date my texts would involve hey I'd love to see you again or I'm not feeling it you know one or the other that's about the extent of it I mean just one date oh no after I've had one date. If I like the guy, we've texted or talked on the phone for a long time. I agree. And then
Starting point is 00:11:45 you say, I'd love to see you again. What do you want to do? Like, things like that. And then small talk, but you're not talking about her future. Well, that's, see, I think that's the thing. Maria, if you're asking, should you be talking about, you know, what size house do you want and how many kids do you want? Right. No. That's, that's off-putting, Maria. Do not do that. You know, go to jail. Do not collect $200. And you know what else I believe is off-putting Kathy, when somebody says, like, are we exclusive after the first date? Or what are you looking for? I had a guy asked me that.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Give it a minute. I had a guy asked me that. What? Are we exclusive after one date? Yep. And I said, no. How about if we go a second time and let's see how we feel? That's kind of what I said.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But, you know, my daughter has given me advice that if a guy, and maybe it goes both ways, Maria, so pay attention. And if you come across as too eager, then you sound desperate. Yeah. Where I'm not desperate. Yeah, there's no win. But, you know, take it slow. Enjoy the date.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Let us know how it goes, Maria. But just, you know, there's nothing wrong with saying, hey, I got to run. You know, don't chat. Don't be so available for an hour at a time. But she's saying when we're texting to these guys after the date, what kind of stuff should I be saying. I really enjoyed your company. We had a great time. That was so much fun playing top golf or whatever you did. That kind of thing. Yeah. And we'd love to get together again soon. You got to run. I have to go watch Dust Girl on my sofa. You know,
Starting point is 00:13:24 something and then move on. And if he's interested, he'll get back with you. And let him text you the second time. I mean, it's okay if you want to text first and say thank you and all that. but don't always be the first one. Right. And the way you stick the landing, Maria, is slow down. Slow your role. All right. But thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:45 But Maria, let us know. We wish you all the best. Absolutely. And if it does work out and you decide to get married, Susan's a wedding officiant. Yes. And I have some news to announce too. Oh. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast Politics.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your. your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or
Starting point is 00:14:45 their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew. Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:15:34 you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And they're saying like, okay, pull this. Do this, pull that, turn this. It's just... I can do my eyes close. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devon. And on our new show, no such thing.
Starting point is 00:16:01 We get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to no such thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:16:29 let's get to let's get to the next question we'll do that at the end um hi kathy and susan i'm in such a shitty oh this question is from anonymous okay word shitty just told now yeah hi kath well i say shitty and i'm not all the time all right hi kathy and susan i'm in such a shitty position and i really need help the other day my boyfriend didn't realize i was home and I heard him talking to his parents about how he hated the Christmas gift I gave him. He was asking for their advice, wondering if he should tell me or not, based on the past week. I'm guessing he opted to not tell me. I want to be a better gift giver and my feelings are really hurt.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So I want to talk about it. But how do I tell him I know this info? I don't want him to feel like I breached his privacy since I was eavesdropping. but there's no way I can keep this in. Thank you so much. Go, Susan, go. What would you say? Oh, God bless you, baby.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Well, you don't have to tell him you were listening, but you could tell him, babe, I got the feeling you're not really crazy about this gift. And you know what? It will not hurt my feelings. My poor ex-husband every year, I said, Dickie, let me just pick out what I want because I didn't like anything. And anybody that knows me knows if I buy them something, I want to know. It's not hurt my feelings.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's something that I thought you'd like, but I could be wrong. So get something that you really like. That's what you do. Be honest and just say, I feel like, you know, you're not crazy about it. Let's take it back. Yeah. I think that there are several things at work here. But the biggest thing is if you're not being honest with him about this,
Starting point is 00:18:22 what else are you guys going to be, you know, not honest with each other about? Well, he's not being honest. he doesn't want to hurt her feelings, it sounds like. Well, that's not being honest. If he really doesn't like the gift, he should just be saying, you know what? He's not asking for our help. She is because she heard it. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And that's what I'm saying. So she should say to him either nothing or the next time the gift giving opportunity comes around, hey, boyfriend, I'd like to do A, B, or C, whatever it is. let's go shopping together and pick out something you would like this is not earth-shattering if she gave him one gift that he doesn't like and she probably feels really bad
Starting point is 00:19:04 that he doesn't like it unless it was a Porsche and he really wanted a Maserati oh forget it well anonymous we wish it luck let us know how you handle that one all right question number three is also an anonymous question
Starting point is 00:19:20 hi Susan and Kathy I really need help about a very sensitive subject. I have no idea what to do. I just found out that my 12-year-old daughter is a bully and my heart is broken. Apparently, she's making fun of the girls in her class and her friends are starting to follow in her footsteps. Where do you guys think this is coming from? I haven't seen any signs of this at home. She doesn't fight with her siblings and she's respectful to myself and her dad. husband. How do I tackle this? Thank you ladies so much. Oh, well, I got to jump in because having been an educator for, you know, many moons, the first thing anonymous I'd be asking is how did
Starting point is 00:20:10 you find out? Yeah, facts. Who told you if it's one of your daughter's, um, friends, mothers, that kind of thing. Yeah, no, you, that is of pivot. That is primary importance. here. So first thing I would do is, you know, you have to get it from a reliable source. A reliable source would be an administrator at her school, a teacher. Quite possibly. That's how she found out. Well, I don't know. She said she's making fun of the girls in her class and her friends are starting to follow in her footsteps. So I could easily, having, like I said, having worked in schools a long time, I could easily see that her friends, Anonymous's daughter's friend, mother called her and said, you know, your daughter and now my daughter.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So I'm going to table any answer anonymous that I have until I know, you know, where it's coming from. If it is coming from a reliable source, and again, that would be a teacher, a school administrator. What would you tell her to do? I mean, forget your heart being broken. I get it. But you need to nip it in the butt. Well, she's not going to nip it in the bud. You probably, you could start a conversation with her is what's going on in your life.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Those are the kinds of conversations. Being respectful, I don't, again, I don't have enough information here to answer. Right. But I know a child is going to be in denial if you're accused of something. So you don't want to attack her. Right. And accuse her of something because she'll deny it. Right. almost have to catch them in the act or just talk about or show them. I know I've seen it on
Starting point is 00:21:53 TikTok myself, these videos that people are downright bullies and mean and what the other person is going through. Share that. How would you like that if it were you or your child? Yeah. How would you feel? But I do think something typically bullies aren't bullies because they wake up in the morning and say, you know, I think I'm going to be a shitty person to eight kids in my class. There's usually something else going on often bullies have been bullied believe it or not sometimes sometimes she sounds like she's a leader because the girls are following her right right so yeah so i i think you need to do some more reconnaissance here but let us know anonymous it's never it is always hard we always you know we love our children and we want to believe that they never do
Starting point is 00:22:40 anything wrong and bullying is a very serious and i know i'm feeling something right now because because my grandson, I've been through this. Yeah. And he gets bullied at school. And it's awful. And you can call the principal. They don't do anything. Maybe they try in their way what they could do.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But on our end, it's continuing. How do you stop it? Well, it's oftentimes you can't stop. You know, sometimes you can stop the bullying. Sometimes you can't. What the goal here is is to try to get your child. to get your child to get some coping mechanisms that, you know, they can deal with it. It's never easy.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's not, but you know what? Sometimes bullying, I was bullied as a child. Who are you? Yeah, but not, not. I always made fun of, you know, for being super skinny. You know, that's skinny. Yeah, well, I was super fat, so I hate you. Well, I was skinny.
Starting point is 00:23:40 They said, Bacola turned sideways. Stick out your tongue, you look like a zipper. My boobs didn't come till late. I was a bean pole, and I was like the tallest one in the class now. I'm not tall anymore. Oh, that's too funny. Let me just say bully is a word. It is a word that ignites fire.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It does. And so, you know, the word bully, you got to really know what you mean by bullying. I love that. Hey, Zipper. Hey, Zipper. I'm glad you asked us, and I definitely think you need to see it through. Yeah. And find out.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Okay, wait. Susan, can I, I used to call you Saints' Ness. I'm going to start calling you a zipper, Susan. I love it. There's no skinny going on anymore. Yeah, well, I never had it. So whatever. Okay, let's, we do this sometimes different games.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Oh, Jesus. Tell me it's not that one. Moral quandary? No, no, no. New year, new game. Okay, cool. This is going to be a dating sneak peek with you and me, okay? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So we're going to answer questions. questions that give any single men viable breathing above ground would be defined as available single men, an idea of what it would be like to date us. Okay. Now, Susan, you know, Appalachronation, we joke around a lot, but we're going to be serious in this one, maybe. All right. We're going to switch off asking the questions and we'll both answer. But I'm answering for me, right? Not you. Yes, exactly. She's got a girl. She's got people out there.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Okay, I'm going to start the first one. What is your favorite pick-up line? Hello? A pickup line, my favorite. When a man compliments you. Well, that's not a pickup line. Well, is it if he says that you're pretty or beautiful or they're trying to get to talk to you, right? That's a pickup line.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, all right. So guy walks up and says, is, hey, Zipper, you got a... Oh, God. What is your own, Kathy? Honestly. Piece of candy go for a ride. Honestly, I...
Starting point is 00:25:59 I am not big on pickup lines because usually I've talked with someone on the phone first, and I've gotten norm a little bit. I think, you know, so to me, I really... Pickup lines don't typically work on me, like, hey, baby, where have you been on my life? I'm probably going to lean over
Starting point is 00:26:16 and wretch. I've been right here. Where the hell you've been? Yeah. No, see, you're going to, I'm like, goodbye, move along. Okay. Here's another one. How do you make your partner feel special? Well, if I had one, it would be doing, and I'm being serious, it would be doing nice things for him, surprising him, breakfast in bed, you know, just doing something, some quotidian little thing. Like if he usually takes the trash out and he got home. home from work late, I would have to trash out. Just something. Pick up his dry cleaning for him because he ran out of time. Just something small. It doesn't have to be earthshad. What about you? I feel the same. Also, I would try to figure out what his love language was. And that would be a way
Starting point is 00:27:03 to make him feel special. Well, you would know. The other thing, Susan, don't lie. You'd cook some fabulous meal for him. That's just a no-brainer. And you know how I'd make my partner feel special. There's one more thing I would do. Susan, partner and I are coming over for dinner. Get dinner on the table. All right. Which could be why we're still single. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand. Stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50, percent of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, until this. Do this. Pull that. Turn this. It's just, I can do my eyes close. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And on our new show, no such thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise they need to recognize that they lack expertise. And then as we try the whole thing out for real, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:29:43 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Do you believe in love at first sight? I do.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Tell me, that's when I met my husband. I've told this story before. Oh, we know. I know. I love that story. I met him at a fraternity party, looked at him across the room, told my roommate, I'm going to marry that guy. And 18 months later, I did. There was just something in his smile.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Do you kiss on the first date? Absolutely. Because if I'm not attracted to the guy, there's not going to be a second date. So, yeah. What about you? Yes. You have to. We don't have to.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It's not like paying your taxes. If you like them, yeah. All right. If they don't approach you, then I don't go after them. Okay, now, Susan, I'm going on the next, I'm asking this next question. I want you to think carefully and realize that the world is listening to your answer. What's your next, what is your next move after the first date ends? I probably call you.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Good answer. That's true. That is true. We do call each other as soon. Tell you about it. I just got to tell everybody. Susan had a date the other day. she called me. I was in a meeting. I called her back. And she went to the bathroom to talk to me
Starting point is 00:31:18 about this guy and asked my advice. And you, by the way, Susan, you know he knew you were doing that. Okay. Kathy, what's your ideal first date? You know, you've asked me this before. I've been asked this question before. My ideal first date, I don't really care what it is. The, thing I don't like is a movie because I want to talk to the person. So my ideal first date is a place where I'm trying not to be funny, but what came through my mind was, you know, at a very expensive restaurant with very expensive wine that he's paying for and great conversation. But, you know, I'm saying a place where we can talk and have a cocktail and just get to know each other. What about you? I just realized that an activity like playing top golf or going out to play golf,
Starting point is 00:32:09 or doing something that it's more quiet that you can still get to know each other and have some laughs and things. I do enjoy dinner, but you're sitting across the table and God forbid you're at a loss for words. You don't know. Did you really, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, did you really just say? Not you, a loss for words.
Starting point is 00:32:27 You had a loss for words? Either one of us is not happening. Okay. How do you handle quarrels in a relationship? Well, what I would do now is very different from what I would have done when I was my younger self. But I think you have to have some ground rules around, I don't really like the word choral,
Starting point is 00:32:50 but you have to have rules around disagreements because disagreements are good for a marriage or a relationship because it helps you solidify who you are, what you want. Can you deal with the situation, whatever it is? but it has to be respectful um conversation so i try and it's hard for me i'm going to be honest because i do interrupt a lot it's my word honestly it's my worst character trait um but i i think trying to listen and put myself in the other person's position and trying to understand that you want to do but how do you handle that's how i handle them now i i didn't then now i try to listen
Starting point is 00:33:30 what about you so i'm bad because i always have to get my point across Like, I don't want you to be mad at me. And we're having an argument, a quarrel, a disagreement. Yeah. But I have to give my reasons as to why this happened or whatever the case may be. Yes, but when you and I have had disagreements, you do that. You get your point across. I get my point across.
Starting point is 00:33:52 But the point is we listen to each other, right? And we know that because we're more mature now. Yes. And you know what? Winning, again, not my younger self. It's not winning an argument. But when you're young. younger, it's getting your way. For me, it was. I'm not that way anymore. That's me. It's proven my
Starting point is 00:34:10 point. You know, I don't like to be, well, I'm getting off topic a little bit, but I don't want to be accused of something that I did not do or did not intend to do. I'll admit fault, but, and I'm sorry, you know what I mean? But yeah, yeah, I don't scream. I was never a person that screamed and fought. Well, that's not going to get you anywhere. It doesn't get anyone. Okay. How do you decide, how do you, I get to answer this for Susan, how do you decide whether or not you'll go on a second date with someone? If I felt some chemistry, I'd like to see more. Yeah, I'd try it again. Yeah, I would say that's the same for me. If I've had a good time. You know what, honestly, Susan, well, and you have a good time. You enjoy your company. Even if I don't feel chemistry necessarily,
Starting point is 00:35:02 even if I don't, if I feel that this is somebody that I had fun with, sometimes getting to know someone's a slow burn and it takes time. When I was younger, it was like if I didn't, you know, feel passionate in the first second. But now it's like, I don't know. Let me give this some time and see. If I'm having a good time, right. All right, here we go. When do you think it is the right time to make a relationship official?
Starting point is 00:35:30 I don't know what you mean by. official. Monogamous? I guess so. Like I'm not going to see anybody else. That's when he puts my name on his checkbook. Just kidding. People don't write me mean comments. I'm joking. The right time to make a relationship official is when you and your partner feel it's time. And you know what? Sometimes there's discord because one will be ready and the other one isn't. It's conversation. You know, you know when you know. For me, it would be when we were deciding to be into. It's just one person for me if we're going to... If you're going to be intimate with that person, you're not going to see anyone.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I think you're a one guy woman anyway, whether you're sleeping with them or not. You just want to date one guy at a time. And I'm that way. Okay. What's something you wish people understood about dating you? Oh, God. We're going to go on this one, right? You know we're both going to the same.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Our answer is going to be the same. That we are sweetheart. Yeah. And you know, we're not just, you know, I am a big personality. We are big personalities. But to get to know us knows that there's another side to us. Yeah. And I think people that get to know us will say, I don't know, we had somebody we had on the podcast said something about getting to know strong women. You realize that, you know, you're comfortable in yourself, you can get to know that person. So that's the kind of guy I'm looking for that knows I'm a strong personality, but knows there's a whole lot more besides that. All right. Oh, can I ask this question? And can I, wait, I'm going to ask this question. It's a moral quandary, not. I'm going to ask and answer this question for Susan. Are you a slow burn Susan or do you fall fast? Susan falls at warp speed. She beats the sound of light.
Starting point is 00:37:32 She can fall faster than we can get a man to the moon. But then I fall out fast, too. Okay, go ahead. All right. How do you like to celebrate anniversaries or special occasions? I mean, like anyone else, I, you know, I love to get flowers. I love a special trip. I like to go out for dinner.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But you know what? I would be just as happy having a bottle of wine sitting in front of the fire. Yeah, yeah. As long as, you know, flowers. What's one thing you always bring to a relationship? Can I answer that for you? This is not moral quantity. But it's so easy to answer for you.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And Susan brings an appetite. See, I knew it. We really do know each other. Susan's always hungry. What's something I bring to a relationship? I think I bring humor and fun, laughter, and kindness. What about you? Probably the same.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah. And why are we single, Susan? And people. I bring people to our relationship. They meet my friends. All right. To end us off, what's the one thing someone must know about you before dating you? When Susan gets hungry, she needs to eat.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I'm an open book and I get hungry. Tell you, folks, if you're going on a date with Susan, get prepared. You're having lunch, dinner, or a snack. Or I'll be cooking it. I don't care. I don't know. What's the one thing someone needs to know about me? I would say that I've lived a charmed life that even though I've had some horrific things happen to me and to my family, I am grateful for the life that I have. And I think both of us would agree the one thing and people should know about us.
Starting point is 00:39:30 We love our families. I mean, they're important to us. Yeah, that's another one. Yeah. That's another one. Oh, boy. Well, that does it for this episode, Kath. A Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And thanks so much, you guys, who wrote into us, who listened to us every week. I mean, we love this. And I love hearing back from them. I love to hear the comments and the questions. Listen, I have a great idea that we should do for one episode. I'm just going to throw it out there before we end. Yeah. I think that you and I should do an entire episode on tutoring men, how to get on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:40:09 how to set up a profile. That's why just say, you know, let me finish, how to set up a profile, how to take a selfie, and most importantly, how to find us on Instagram. Yes, yes. In between. Wait, what about my good news? I forgot. Oh, tell us your good news.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Oh, I'm so excited, Kathy. It blew me away. So I got an email and it said, congratulations that I have been nominated for officiant of the year, 2025. Wow. Through what organization? The IAOTP, which is the International Association of Top Professionals. I was so honored. Yay, Susan.
Starting point is 00:40:49 There will be a lot going on. It won't be until December 13th in Las Vegas at the Bellagio. I will be. Who's going to be there with you, Susan, next? Of course you are. Of course you are. Well, in between congratulating Susan, which, by the way, seriously, congratulations. That is an incredible honor. You deserve it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:09 So happy for you. So between our episodes on teaching men how to get on Instagram and reaching out to us and accepting Susan's awards and honors, please, please keep sending questions our way. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour, DM us on Instagram. reach out on socials at Bachelor Happy Hour. We really enjoy hearing from you. Absolutely. Thanks for listening, guys.
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