Bachelor Happy Hour - The Gifts of Getting Older | Golden Hour

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back answering more of your questions! We kick things off with the question of the day: What’s one thing about getting older you wish you knew sooner? Then we get into more topics: What you do when your co-worker might be the one? Do grandparents need to abide by their children’s parenting styles, even if they feel it’s wrong? We discuss these and so much more, and you won’t want to miss Kathy and Susan’s advice! Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We're back, Susan, and thank y'all for joining us. We love your questions. We want you to keep them coming. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit them for us. We love answering your questions. We want you to keep them coming. We want you to get them coming. We want you to Bachelornation.com. slash golden hour and submit them for us. We love answering your questions. Absolutely, please. And you know what to do, guys. You know how to find it, just like always, bachelornation.com slash golden hour or wherever you listen to your podcast. Okay, so today, let's get into last night's happenings on Jones season. what did you think oh my gosh so i think it was a very emotional night there was a lot of sharing like when people opened up about what they went through pasquo or pascal i don't know how to say

pascal pascal what a story i felt so bad i like him even more i really do what he went through and he was determined to make something out of himself the cardboard in the shoe that was worn out that his dad did that just that took me. So you know that I've kind of made some jokes about Pascal and his cooking and cleaning and his Gucci and Louis Vuitton. But I will say that gave it a little context last night that, you know, he had had had a rough time of it. I love their one-on-one at the Paris Hotel. That was super fun. It was dressing up and playing dress off. They were so cute. And I think she kissed him a little better than most. I was thinking it was of a peck but okay she does a lot of pecks but i think she let him kiss her a little bit but yeah

yeah so what about i do like i do like how he said um don't judge by the cover you have to read the story love and i will say his story is is absolutely riveting so um as many of the other guys my charles charles charles he's a new man it was so sad hearing him about his wife's and Joan got emotional with him. He is so adorable. I just, I'm glad that he's coming about, if you will, like accepting and he blamed himself for a long time and then he realized that it wasn't him. I don't know if that was because of a language thing or why he felt that way, but Joan

was reassuring that I'm so happy. Yeah, that was, I have to say, before we go through any of the guys, you and I are both very good friends with Joan. And I have to say, she is making us golden women, at least me, extremely proud. She is so kind. I keep texting her. She is so kind to these guys. She listens to them. She genuinely cares about them. So yay you, Joan. She does. But the other thing. I texted her last night. I said this was hard to watch. It was extremely emotional. And she agreed. Yeah. It was hard. And her coming about not being sure, I'm sorry, Kathy, not being sure if she was ready to open herself up.

She has said that to us. She has said that to us. And she's not replacing her husband. She'll always remember Chalk had a lot to say there. Right. But wait, I thought when Chalk, when they were talking, of course, to me Chalk is a frontrunner, if not the guy. I mean, their intimate moments are just so definable and clear to me. But I will say, Joan, when we have children when you know we had our kids we had our first kid we couldn't imagine how much we love that child could we ever love another child i think joan it's so clear that she'll never forget

john that her heart is just expanding to bring in a new love so i i just love that like you kathy if you were to meet somebody you'd never try to replace your husband he will always take a piece of your mind your heart your soul you know but you can move on and accept some more love. Yeah, I agree. I agree, Tollheartedly. How about the kickball? They were so bruised up.

I mean, did you see them holding their thighs and limping? They all needed ice packs. Ice bag. I just thought, who was it? Chalk said we're playing like we're, you know, young kids again. But how fun. I wish we had got to play kickball. I love those sports.

Look, when I hit the lady in the chest trying to play pickleball, that was a lot. Well, kickball's still fun. And Jordan said, I am not going to lose. Jordan was like, he was playing hard because they wanted that date. They were all played when they all wanted that one-on-one one-on-one time with Joan that date. What about Kim writing the song for Joan and nobody wanted to sing it with him? That just broke my heart. Yeah, but the doc did it at the end.

I was going to say, Guy stepped up and sang with him. But you know what, Kathy, I agree with the men. That was his song. No, why do you want the whole crew to do it, you know? I just think he was looking for camaraderie. I thought it was such a sweet thing and it was sad when he went home. But wait, I think the most poignant or one of the most poignant parts for me last night was Jonathan. When he was talking about packing his suitcase to go home, you know, in case he had to leave the show, in case he was sent home.

And he said it just reminded him of when he and his wife. He was blindsided. And blinds had, and he said, I mean, talk about just a trigger, opening up that suitcase to pack it, and he said, you know, I'm not enough. I wasn't enough. I'm not sure I'm enough. And I just thought, you know, that is so revealing that this handsome athletic guy still was so worried about not being enough and having to leave. I thought it was just amazing. How about how Joan came back and said, you're on a one-on-one, you know you're enough. I chose you to go, never, ever feel that way again. I know. Was that beautiful? That's what I'm saying.

Joan is so in tune with these guys. And obviously she can only pick one, but she's just so genuine with all these guys. I was so impressed with that. I really love with Jonathan Thet, Jonathan said, and I see that tattoo on a show. chest when he talked about his heritage. What about Joan? What about Joan with her mom being sick? I just thought, you know.

How do you focus? How do you focus? I mean, her mom is like 92 or 94. And I just thought, again, how committed is she? It brought back her on our show with the troubles with her daughter and that emotional tear, if you will. Now she's worried about her mom. It was a tough night for her. It really was.

The other thing, it was, it was, the other thing I loved was Charles saying, don't pressure yourself, let your heart decide. Take your time. I'll still be here. Yeah, I was so sweet. And then, of course, Gary. Wait a minute, before Gary, Chuck, remember he said, can I talk to you? And he took her outside. And he's like, I'm always here if you want to talk. But wait, remember what she made the comment that she made after that? tell me not only how safe that she felt but he is a lot like john exactly a lot of john and have you noticed it looks like he leaves next week so i'm a little concerned but we all know bachelor nation you know he leaves goes around the block and comes back you know i'm guessing this is not his swan song on this show or or he he shows up right before the overnights or something you know some kind of twist yeah There is going to be, there's going to be something. Okay, now we have to talk about Gary.

Gary, let me say to you, when Gary said, you know, have you considered the possibility that your guy is not here? I thought, I was very surprised. Honestly, that reminded me sort of of Leslie telling when she was in wherever they were on, was it Joey season? In Mexico. We were in Mexico until we. Yeah. It was like, I wanted, I want Joan and I wanted Joey's girls, and of course he's happily in love with Kelsey, but you want to embrace, you want to embrace, and you hope that these people know what's on the line. And I think they do. Clearly Joan does. And I just wish Gary had said, you know what, I hope the love of your life is here. I support you. Rather than do you think maybe he's not. Yeah, that's just casting doubt in mind. Gary, I love you, but I think that was rephrase that, Gary, work it out.

And then what about Joan at the Rose ceremony when the guys were going home? She was hugging them saying it's not you. I've made connections with all of you. I think it's hard enough to send people home. I'm guessing I've never had to do it. No, but we were one of them getting sent home. Right. That feeling like waiting for the name to be called.

It's, you're so anxious and you're guessing. I mean, you're hoping, but you don't know what's going to happen. But when she said goodbye to them, she hugged them and, you know, had little words of comfort for each one of them. I'm really, I'm so, I'm so. She's doing a hell of a job. She really is. She really is. I'm just so excited for her.

And she looks stunning, of course. So wait, who went home? Kim, C.K. and wait how about the football guys Eric Dickerson and Andre Reed hello I mean there's so big shot I mean I wouldn't you have like to seen a flag football game yeah I didn't know what they were going to do and then they ended up doing the kickball yeah I mean all sports are fun that was pretty exciting that's pretty exciting you know those guys were thrilled to meet them and how about what Joan said don't hurt my boyfriends I heard that loud and clear that

That was adorable. Yeah, no, it's just, I think these guys are genuinely having a good time. They're generally, some of them are really making strong connections with Joan. And I truly believe we're three weeks in, this process is working for Joan. And I think I still hold out that chalk as the frontrunner just because of the way they interact with each other. But, you know, she's with Jordan, guy. I, you know, you can see that she's making some connections. And she hasn't had a one-on-one with Guy yet.

No. I think she's probably, my guess would be that she will give him a one-on-one time since she'd like to get to know more. Because, Kathy, you know as well as I do. Those three-minute times with somebody, you know what else I noticed? And tell me if you saw this or feel this. I watch the conversation or listen to the conversation in that short period. of a time. And I noticed like with Gary and I, we were generic talking, what's your schedule like, what's your morning routine. And yet others go right down deep. And they tell their

feelings and how they were hurt or what their experience was. And then others are real late, you know. I think she truly is a great bunch of guys. And I cannot wait for week four and find out if chalk is really gone or what's going on there. But in the meantime, we're just going to wait for her castoffs. Oh, it was Greg who was sent home. It was great. That's right. That's right. My sweater guy. I call him the sweater guy. You can call him whatever you want. He calls me. Kathy is very interesting and interested, if you will. I hope you're listening. Greg, give her a ringy ding ding ding. Susan's my wing woman. All right, well, we got to move on to our questions here, but we can't wait for week four. I know. I love doing this

every week while it's fresh on my mind, you know? My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents.

And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your. time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew. Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love

crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. All right, so, Susan, you want to start us off, let's get going here. You want to start us off with the question of the day? Okay, dokey, will we? Okay.

What's one thing about getting older that you wish you knew sooner? Hmm. For me, I wish that I had known that it's it's something that you can't avoid. And so instead of saying things like I used to say, oh, I don't want to get old, I don't want to get old now, I feel like it is a gift that I have the wisdom, the good health, the understanding of life,

that it's a gift getting older. And what do you wish you knew? That it's okay. to get older. I think I was so afraid of it before. I don't want to get older. I wish I knew that getting older comes with privilege and understanding and wisdom. I know it now. I wish I knew that all the confidence that I have in myself and all the life experiences, well, that you kind of figured you were going to get, but the confidence that we have at this age. And we know ourselves and truly love who we are. I didn't know if I was going to love myself. You know what I mean? But that comes with age.

It absolutely does. And I think I'm, I think that there's so many gifts of age. I, I just wish I could had known the gifts were coming before I had to live it out. I didn't know about all the aches and pain some days, but I get hurt easy. Yeah, they don't tell you that. That's not in the handbook. Oh my gosh. That's not the handbook. All right. Kathy, we're going to get into these fan questions. And what's our first one today, Cass. All right, all right. Let's go here. All right, anonymous writes. Okay. Dear Susan and Kathy, I first want to say how much I've been enjoying your podcast. You are one-of-a-kind women that I've come to consider as my coffee buddies. I love that. I love that. I do. We're thrilled to be your coffee buddy. I also, I always listen to your podcast with my first cup of coffee. And more importantly, I try. look up to you and value your opinions as if you were my other mothers. Oh, I love that. That's so sweet.

Okay. Here comes the question. I need your advice on quite a serious issue. Three years ago, I was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma and had to undergo aggressive chemotherapy for six months. I've been in remission since and have also gone back to work and managed to get promoted twice. So I knock on wood that I have a very privilege. life. I was single when I got sick and have been single since. Not one date, not one flirt. Looking back at the past three years, I now realize that chemo had a much more severe side effect when it comes to my self-confidence, especially with regards to my physical appearance. I hate to admit it, but losing my hair really impacted me and I am only now finally regaining trust in myself and getting out there. I met a man two months ago.

at work. He was just hired at the place where I work at a rank higher than mine. He is incredibly kind and smart and funny and the feelings that I already have for him are like nothing I've ever experienced. We have been discreetly dating and it is getting serious by the day. Wow. Although we are technically not doing anything wrong as he is not my direct supervisor, it is quite frowned upon for us to date due to the difference in hierarchy. I can only imagine the gossip it would generate at work, but most importantly, I am so scared it could impact my career that has been advancing so well. You can understand that especially as women, the world is tougher on us than it is on men, and so I would get a bigger backlash than he would. He understands and has been

very discreet and supportive, but we can't keep dating in secret and I can't keep living like that, especially that I see this relationship working out in the long run. I am really falling for him, but my job is so important, too. What do I do? Wow. First of all, congrats on successfully fighting Hodgkin's lymphoma. God bless you. Yes.

So congrats to you on that. Does it, is there a law in that? Well, she said it's most. I know it's frowned upon, but maybe keep it discreet until you really decide either, you're going to move in or get married, and then you go to your boss. before the boss hears it but you'd have to be so cool I would fail profusely I mean I would look at them in certain ways I know I couldn't hide it I don't know how well you do it and you said he's doing a good job of it avoid him in the workplace well that's hard too the thing is it's well what's the other

option well I got a few ideas here I like your idea she's it's a difference in hierarchy which means he's obviously at a higher level than she is. And so that's probably what they frown upon because then it looks like nepotism or something if she gets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the other people are going to be like, yeah, you're sleeping. That's right at the top. Exactly. I think, I don't know, I hate saying this to her because she's been through so much already. And I'm first of all delighted that you've met someone that you're so excited about. But I have to say to you, you've only met the guy

two months ago. It's so new that you are already, and I get it, because you haven't been dating. Susan and I make jokes all the time. You know, we haven't had a date. And she worked there first. He

just got hired. He just got hired. But here's the thing, none of that matters right now because you've only known him two months. So, you know, get to know him a little bit better. This may all be much ado about nothing. You may decide next week that he's history, or he may decide your history. She's falling for him. I know, but I would encourage you to don't fall too hard, too fast, unless you're on The Bachelor, and then you got

about 10 weeks, so make it happen. Unless your name is Susan Knowles, because that's my problem. Yeah, but I mean, I think if it does get serious, Susan's right. You could go to the boss and say, I would tell the truth. Right. Or one of you could look for a similar job in the same industry at another company. I mean, you're not the first one. They're not the first one that has to do with it. I know people in companies that did get married, you know.

Yeah, she doesn't say whether that's possible. No, but it's only two months, but I do. But I'm glad. I'm glad. We're glad that, you know, your hair's growing back, that you're healthy, that you have more confidence. Keep that up, girl. Regardless of what happens with this. situation, just keep being the strong person that you have become due to your illness.

And it seems to me that you are a very good, hard worker, confident, and strong as hell. To go through all that, don't let this carry you out. If you have to, like I said, as it advances, then you go sit down with your boss. And I don't necessarily agree. Just one more quick comment that the world is tougher on women than it is on men. I think those days are over. I think both of you will get backlash. Yeah, I think you both would get even backlash.

That's the hope. Okay. Thank you. And we wish you all the best. Yeah, let us know. Let us know how it goes. And if you decide to get married, call me. I'll come out and do it.

Stay healthy, anonymous. Stay healthy. This is also from Anonymous. Hi, Susan and Kathy. I love listening to the show, and you both have really encouraged me to find true love in myself, and someone will come to me when the time is right. I love that. I'm reaching out because me and my best friend have never been in a serious relationship. We're both 27, and my best friend is now in the talking stages with a guy she really likes. I met him recently, and overall did not get good vibes from him. He just seems like he's not good enough for her and has some frat boy red flags and behaviors, which is overall just very obnoxious for a 28-year-old. She was generally so distraught, not mad at me, but felt like she was seeing the same things but didn't know what to do because she really liked him. She then had a productive conversation with him and has been recently seeing

him more meeting his family and says she really likes him i can't shake my impression of him and still feel very protective how do i get over this and genuinely support her if she is happy i'd love to hear any advice you ladies may have thanks you know what nike says not her problem just do it get over it just how do you do it anonymous you just do it you have the talk with her which i'm not sure I would have done. Maybe I would have been your best friend. She heard you. She had a productive conversation with him. You've done your deed. Leave her alone. Let her live her life. Yeah. And you know what? Yes, I do. And if you're a real friend and it doesn't work out, you don't have to say, I told you so. You just be there for her. But maybe try to see something

else on a better side of him. Maybe he is trying to change. I mean, if she's happy, she's happy. Yeah, leave it alone. I mean, and you know what, do you think? I hate to say this. Do you think there's a little bit of envy? Maybe it could be, yeah. A little bit of envy that one. And they're young yet.

They're 27 and 28. No, that's not that. It's big, it's big, but let her handle it. All right. All right, let's get on here. And good luck. Good luck with this. Yes, absolutely.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman.

I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcast, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid news book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like it was never a princess. Like that never entered into my mind. But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay.

with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And we're, want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.

Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Okay, another question, another anonymous person writes, Hi, Kathy and Susan, I just love your podcast. I love hearing your perspectives on different topics. I have something that has been bothering me and I want your opinion. Please keep this anonymous. Well, yes, we will.

Back story. I've been divorced for six years. During that time, I have dated, but nothing serious. Until now. I met someone online and I've been with him for almost two years. We're having a blast. I can truly be my 100% self with him. He is amazing.

I am so happy. I was picky because I finally found my guy. The issue is, I don't really have the support of my sisters. it's strange actually they're happy for me but one recently told me they feel he is trying to keep me in a bubble they feel we don't do enough with other people but honestly we're just enjoying ourselves we don't need to be with others to keep us happy we do surprise dates we travel we have adult children that are included in a lot of our hobbies i'm 47 and he's 54 and don't get me wrong we love to hang out with others but we really enjoy our alone time too we do

try to balance friends and being by ourselves to back it up. When I was single, I did see my friends more and my sisters. But isn't this what being with a partner is? Isn't this my end goal? I feel as if my sisters enjoyed me being single way more than me having someone. I was available to them 24-7 as I didn't have anything else going on. Some of my friends who are very happy for me and extremely supportive say they are jealous. But seriously, jealous of their sister? I'm I find that odd. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. You keep enjoying your man. Tell your sisters, you guys need to be happy for me. This is what my end all is. This is what I want out of life. No, no, no, no, don't feel guilty.

Anonymous, I got to say, Susan and I answer a lot of questions. And I'm reading this going, seriously? I'm saying the same thing you're saying. Like you could have written the answer. I mean, they might be envious, they might be jealous. I think you're right. They loved having you around 24-7. So, you know what? Tell them to get over it. Yes, they don't feel guilty.

Susan and I are envious that you have found your forever guy. Congrats to you. And we both wish you a lifetime of happiness. Absolutely. Gosh. I mean, she's so happy. You know, sisters. They travel.

They have adult children. they see, they do surprise dates. I have one question for you. Anonymous. Does he have an older brother? A single older brother? I love it. Oh, man.

All right. Question number four, Casey asks. Hi, Kathy and Susan. I think it's her name is Cassie. Cassie, okay. I just love your show and your upbeat, positive spin on everything. Your advice is always honest and spot on. I noticed that lately you have been focusing on dating

and relationship issues. But I have a question about grandparenting. And since I know you are both grandmothers, I was hoping you could help me. I have a very close relationship with my children and see my six grandkids several times a week. Each of my daughters has three children. They range in age from three to 11. I am constantly babysitting as well as picking them up from school, helping with homework and helping prepare dinner. I absolutely adore my grandkids. children and they give me so much love right back. I was a very easy going mom and didn't have a whole lot of rules. My kids were really well behaved and I rarely yelled or punished them. The problem is that my kids have lots of rules as parents and I am having a hard time enforcing them. My children get upset with me because I tend to let things go and don't reprimand the kids when they break those rules. But I believe that the joy of being a grandma is not having to discipline. Have either of you had this issue? Is there any advice you can give me? Oh, baby, do I feel you? Yes, my daughter gets so mad at me. You know what? And I get mad at her because they're always punished. They never have

this. They never have their iPad. Like, my goodness. Yes, grandmoms are supposed to spoil kids. However, if they did something disrespectful, I'm certain you would reprimand them. Am I right, Kathy, you agree? You're going to shocker of all shockers, I don't agree with you. I partially agree with you. Here's the thing. There's no partial. Well, I'll tell you why.

I think it depends on how you're spoiling them. my kids my in-laws it was if I said white they said black and if I said black they said white in other words they would do exactly the opposite of what I wanted to be contrary wait so my I would say to my in-laws when they came over in my home listen don't give the kids cookies at 5 o'clock because it's Like I'd be there. We're going to be eating soon. And they were like, no, we get to spoil them. I don't think that's right.

No, that's a different story. Well, here's the thing. If the grandmother is taking the kids to her house, then you know what? She gets to do, you get to do what you want to do, Cassie. If those kids are at your house, when my kids went to my in-law's house, they spoiled them rotten. And I bit my tongue and just thought, you know what, it's their grandparents. They're going to see them for 10 days. And then we'll go back to our rules.

But if you're going over there and helping them and they're complaining, you know what my advice to you is, Cassie? Stop being so available. So that same is agreeing with me, though. I mean, you said you don't agree. Well, I said it depends. Like, I did not like my in-laws spoiling my kids, you know, giving them literally cake, you know, an hour before dinner. Anytime they want it.

Yeah, well, that I can understand. answer always was we're grandparents and it's our right to spoil and that's what cassie's saying so i'm saying cassie re-evaluate how you're spoiling them it just because you're the grandmother doesn't give you the right to do everything that you want whenever you want on the other hand if if you feel it's your right and they're giving you a lot of flack then all you have to do is say can't do it today and one or two things will happen they'll either find a babysit or or they'll call you up and say, you know what, we really don't care if they have cookies five minutes before dinner. It's going to go one way or the other.

I mean, do you agree or not? Yeah, when it comes to cookies before dinner, that's a whole different. She wasn't mentioning the food part, but I get it because my daughter's rules and their punishments are nothing like I agree with it this time. But I bite my tongue a lot and I still give it into my grandchildren. That's all. Yeah. Well, you know what? Oh, my favorite game's coming.

I can't. I'm so excited. I want to veto this. I love this game. All right, here we go. We're going to play moral quandary. You know the rules, Susan. You're going to guess what I would do, and then I'm going to guess what you would do or say.

I'm going to get us started with the first one. Here we go. You ready? Let's have a little enthusiasm here. Okay. Your daughter has been really stressed out. So you've been babysitting more than usual. You accidentally cursed in front of your grandparents.

grandchild, and she ended up getting in trouble at school for using that word. Your daughter comes to you really upset and assumes it's her husband's fault. Do you fess up or keep quiet? Susan Knowles would burst out laughing and say, am I right? That is just stupid. Next. I mean, seriously. Of course we're going to tell.

You're going to tell, though. That was me. You're not going to let your son-in-law get blamed, are you? Depends if he's been. nice to me that week or not. Oh my God, moving on. No, that was bad. All right. You found out that your child cheated on their L-SAT exam without getting caught and got a very high score. Now they've been accepted to a very good law school that you're paying for. What do you do? Can I answer this question? Yes. It's impossible to cheat on the LSAT. I'm an educational consultant. So,

but let's just pretend it is possible. It's not. You know what I'd say? I am so proud of you. I'm so proud of you going to Harvard Law School. Congratulations. Because you know what? That's one tester. It's one predictor.

I mean, whatever. I just broke the rule and I gave the answer. But because that's, I know what the else. Ladies and gentlemen. Wait, make everyone aware of what just took place. Did you see and hear that? No, no, Kathy, zip it. I'm not zipping it.

Do you know what the else? Kathy broke the law. She broke the rules. Let me just say that this would be Kathy won, Susan 1001. I think I'm still winning here. She needs to make that point because she just got caught. Moving on. You recently got a new dog and absolutely loved it.

It's very well trained, except it doesn't do very well around your young grandchildren who play a little too aggressively. your daughter confronts you about this and asks you to do something about the dog since you often have to babysit the kids at your house. What do you do? What you would do? Let me think. I'm not sure if you would lock up the dog

or tell your daughter that she could. You'd do one of the two. You'd either say, I'll lock up the dog or you would say, listen, I've got this dog. I can't, you know, we're just going to have to, your kids are going to have to learn to play nicely around the dog. My grandchildren and say, this is what happens when you do this. Is that what you would do?

Yeah, teach them. You can't do that in front of the dog. And if the dog's really out of control, yes, I would lock it up. Well, what do you think I would do? You would probably put the dog away for the kids. I would do exactly what you would do. I would teach them. I hate this game.

I don't know anything. I would teach, but exactly the same thing. I would teach them about the dog. And then if it was getting bad, I would. Yeah. You know, I would lock up the dog. I mean, it's your grandkids. It's your grandkids, after all, they're not replaceable.

Exactly. Okay, your close friend, roommate, and her boyfriend begin having a disagreement as the three of you are hanging out. Your friend is very clearly in the wrong, but is standing her ground and refuses to apologize. The boyfriend, who has also become a good friend to you, looks to you for help. What do you do? oh Susan this is a no-brainer for you you are going to call it out exactly how you see yes ma'am yes ma'am okay what am i going to do i think you would do the same okay this is getting scary we're agreeing again because these questions you're at a concert no it's wait a minute

it's because we both no it's not because of the questions it's because you and i have such high moral standards that we agree i'm truthful yeah i wouldn't want to like embarrass her or anything but yeah hey yo because I've done it next one you're at a concert for an artist you love you're having a blast until the group next to you starts getting really rowdy singing loudly filming themselves with flash and occasionally getting you in the background of the videos do you confront them try to focus on having a good time or try something else. You are just going to join in and party with them.

Am I right? It depends if they were pissing me off or something. I don't know. I'm like, yo, yo. But yeah, you're outside at a concert. I mean, that's, yeah. What am I going to do? Really, why be in a stick in the mud, then you shouldn't go to concerts.

Wait, what am I going to do? You would have been partying with them from the jump street. I mean, forget about it. I would have been, I would have been sliding into their pictures. Let's go. I would be like, what is it called when you jump into their pictures? I need to post it. I think Kathy and I would definitely be on these people's videos on purpose.

Like we would definitely jump in. Oh, for sure, we would jump in. Oh, my gosh. Oh, thank God that game's over. Oh, come on. You did such a good job, Susan. You're getting better all the time. Your moral standards.

I love it. Okay, well, I hate to break the news to you, Susan, but this is going to do it for this episode of Happy Hour. Thanks, everybody, for joining us. We hope you've had as much fun as we've had. I sure hope they do. And don't forget, submit some questions because look what we do with them. And just submit them to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. We really love to connect with you guys and like to know what's going on in your world and your mind and keeping our advice.

I mean, you could take it or leave it. It doesn't really matter, but we love doing it. Wait, I have an idea, Susan, before we sign off here, how about if they send us their own moral quandaries? What do you think? I'd like to send them some. All right, we'll listen, everybody. We love it.

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