Bachelor Happy Hour - The Hometown Stretch!

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Today on Bachelor Happy Hour, it's all about hometowns! From the heartwarming family love to Joey’s masterclass in meeting the folks, Joe and Serena tackle every moment with the ladies' families!They kick it off by chatting about the characters in each family. Is there a new Uncle Joe this season?Then, we get their thoughts on each of Joey’s connections following hometowns. Who’s the frontrunner to Joey’s heart? Are Daisy’s walls up for good? Finally, they get into Maria’s last-ditch effort at the rose ceremony and her ultimate departure and question... Was she too little too late? Tune in now and be sure to follow!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we're in new orleans and we are at her hometown we are I've never been ever been to new orleans i've heard mixed reviews uh yeah i've been i've been there i've been to new orleans i think twice twice twice i feel like the only thing i used to watch the vampire diaries and they like went to new orleans in the vampire diaries i was like this place looks so cool but it sounds like it's like really heavy french food yeah you would not do well as far as your stomach. I'm not a big like French cuisine person because I just find it all to be incredibly rich and buttery and oily and oily which is delicious but I usually feel kind of sick after. They have grilled oysters which would definitely mess up your stomach but they're incredible.

That sounds amazing. I want to try like what's the like the fish stew? The fish stew from New Orleans. Or like there's like a stew like a crew. Oh um yes. Do you know what I'm talking about? I'm doing a terrible job describing it gumbo soup gumbo yeah oh my gosh I've had gumbo just to be clear

and I know what it is it just the name was escaping me but we see Joey and Kelsey eating bignets you know what a bignet is no

it's like it's essentially like it's like fried dough oh like a donut it's like a donut yeah it's like a donable it's it's loaded with powdered sugar

and it's just like I feel like every not every but a lot of cultures have their own take on like a donut yeah you know what I mean like the like the Greek one is like the locomades do you know what I'm talking about like the honey the little honey donuts I don't

I don't know okay well I also probably just butcher the name but I stand by what I said I feel like there's a lot of different takes on it I would be very down to try that it looks delicious do you have a favorite donut do I have a favorite donut um probably but like I'd have to think about it I don't even know the last donut I ate to be honest well yeah me either either do I. Do you have a favorite donut? Chocolate. Just a chocolate donut? Do you like it when they're more like bready and doughy or more cakey? More cakey. And I like double chocolate.

Like chocolate dipped on the top? Yep. This is so Canadian, but like growing up, I loved like the chocolate dipped classic donut from Tim Hardee's. Yeah, who doesn't? Tim Horton's was like my go-to donut for most of my life. That's a great thing. So do we think Joe, how do, Joey and Kelsey, they really seem like they are they are meshing very well oh yeah they're giving like boyfriend and girlfriend super great fit together the chemistry's there this is like the happiest i feel like we've seen her she just seems so comfortable so relaxed in her element like the difference

between her like week two to now i feel like we've really seen her personality come through And I just feel like the contestants' personalities never shine through more than when they are in their hometown for obvious reasons. Like they're just more comfortable. Yeah. And she's just smiling. She's jumping around.

Like, she is love and life. And I like seeing the side of her. She saw butterflies. They remind her of her mom. And then she saw a butterfly when she was interviewing. Yeah. There was a few moments where she saw butterflies. Because I think her and Joey were standing on the bridge.

She was like, I want to see one too. And she's like, look, because it reminds her of her mom. Which honestly, I can't talk about because I'll start crying. I will say, Joey, to me, Joey, seems the most relaxed. I think I've said this before, but seems the most comfortable in himself with Kelsey. Totally. I agree.

Like even when they were like eating bignets, I don't know, there was just like a shot of where I'm like, he just seems like he's living his life opposed to being the bachelor. I agree. They just seem like a great fit. I really like them together. They're very cute. We go to Kelsey's house. It's her brother, her sister, and her.

dad um you know like you kind of i think when you watch hometowns you kind of like hope that like the family's either like crazy or me just for a little just like some entertainment but like they couldn't be more welcoming and in warm oh my god her dad was like amazing like i loved her dad so much i was like this guy seems like he's the best and it's nice it's nice it's nice when the family gets it like it's the worst when you when you walk in when they walk in and the family's like well I don't even know what this is and it's like okay well you should have done your research like this guy what do you mean like your kids been gone for weeks and you don't know what's going on so like it is nice when like Joey had a conversation with with

the father and he was just kind of like he honestly he was just nice and like understanding and like he completely got that there's other women there and I think he respect Joey by the way in my opinion also has handled the conversations with all the parents like so well like it was it's the first time in a while where I've seen a lead like really take control don't you agree I absolutely agree honestly he's the best bachelor in terms of the way he's handled hometown specifically that we've seen in a really long time like i was unbelievably impressed with how he handled every single conversation he like was proactive and comforting the parents if he felt like there was hesitation he was up front with them there was no BS which i do find

a lot of the leads do but he just was very smooth about his delivery and there was a lot of confidence and you could tell that the parents responded really well to him and i almost wanted to be like joey like could you do not great not as good of a job like this is getting to be boring like every parent just loves you and you love them and it's just it's going so well but yeah i was very impressed like you said he was just he was just very confident in his delivery and like what came out of his mouth it just all like as a parent that had to make them feel a little comfortable like this guy this guy at least knows what he's doing in this situation totally well i don't think he's told anyone he's falling in love with them.

No. He's been really closed-lipped. Sorry. Sorry, my brain just completely stopped for a second. He's been tight-lifted about his feelings, which probably makes it easier going to home dress. I haven't told anyone how I feel because I don't want to set anyone up for failure. Whereas when they go in and they're like,

oh, well, I told some of the women that I'm falling in love with them, the parents are always like, well, why did you do that? Yeah. But the convo goes really well with Kelsey's dad. he also just kind of seems like the dad that's like if she wants to get engaged great if she doesn't no problem like I'm fully supportive of her yeah he just wants his daughter to be happy yeah and he's not like he just seems like he really trusts his daughter too and you could tell he's somebody that he's been through a lot and he you know understands life I guess just like there's a chance you're going to get your heart broken but that's okay yeah and if you want to continue pursuing this like that's the right decision and I trust you to make those decisions and I support you no matter what. Yeah. It's not like any parent should want their child to go through heartbreak, but it's just part of life. A hundred percent. You know, it's just like you, they have to experience it most likely are they're going to experience it at some point. Yeah. It's just like it's okay

because you're, you're going to survive. A hundred percent. And he actually does say he hopes that she's engaged at the end of this. Like he explicitly says like, I hope she comes home engaged. like if that's what she wants if he gets down on one knee he obviously really liked Joey and he felt good about the whole thing and then Kelsey in her interview

at the end of the date says that she loves Joey but not to him but she seems super happy it's just a really nice happy positive one-on-one great first start sure I agree

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This one, I thought it was going to be a little, we were going to see a little more like pushback. Me too. At the beginning, Rachel's like my family is super traditional. Yeah, and like my dad's not really for this format. And, like, she went in with a lot of nerves. And I think her family was more relaxed than she expected them to be, which kind of happened to me. I thought that there was going to be more pushback from my family. And they were, like, more relaxed than I expected.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I think they were a very emotional family. I think the whole, I think, obviously, we don't know exactly what happened in Rachel's past relationship. But it must have been pretty intense because. Yeah. Well, she said they were almost engaged. Like it was a really serious relationship.

And you could tell the family just doesn't want to see her go through that again, which would make them more reserved over the situation. But, yeah, I thought it was Joey got along with the whole family. I thought they were having fun. They were hanging out in the backyard. No, it was so cute. Loved her family. Loved her parents, her sister, her nephew.

They were all playing backyard games. They were eating. Was it like a pig on his bed? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sick, loved it. It looked like, honestly, I was like, I want to be on this hometown date. Like, this just looks like a lot of fun and a really, like, enjoyable family to be a part of.

And like they said, Amy, even though they are traditional, they were like, this is our daughter. If this is what she wants, then we're happy for her. Yeah, the dad doesn't give his blessing. Yeah. Joey basically was like, got to ask. And he's like, if it's her at the end, you can give me a call. She's got my number. but I'm not going to give it to now.

And then the mom you can tell. Which makes sense. Totally. He's like, I'm not going to give you the blessing with like when you're dating four girls. Yeah. Which is fine. We always,

I feel like we usually see at least one dad say that. And the mom definitely has some like hesitancy about the whole thing. But, you know, she like loves her daughter and it all ends on a good note. Yeah. Yeah. And then Rachel's emotional. Rachel at the end hasn't told Joey how she feels.

And she finally. opens up which yeah it's a good thing she said she's falling in love with them what do you think about them do you think they're I like them I like her a lot a lot she's just been like

consistently great the whole season and yeah like I think I said at the beginning like she's just like screams I'm a wife I'm wife material I'm like ready for this and I still feel that way about her I just she just for me she just seems she just

very smart totally like and just like emotionally she's very mature yeah but i don't know i feel like it's hard to compare because like kelsey is so bubbly and giddy and i feel like that side of joey comes out when they're together as well um whereas rachel still has like a great personality but has more of like a chill personality so it's hard to like compare the connections yeah and it's also like what we see and what we don't totally But I think he also is really comfortable with her. And I think from what we've seen, she really, like, understands him as a person. Yeah.

Like, some of the comments she makes and just the way they interact, I feel like she sees him for who he is. And, like, I think that's a good thing, you know? Okay. Let's jump to the Christmas tree farm, the greatest place on Earth. It was so cute and magical. Daisy grew up on a Christmas tree farm. I know. Wow.

I mean, if she doesn't make it at the end, I just, I don't know. For me, it's like this could definitely be the bachelorette. A field of daisies holding one rose. Oh, I love it. I chose, Joe. Or she's in a field of daisies in a red dress holding a red rose. Cute. I love it.

And there's Christmas trees like way in the background. They should really hire us for the marketing. Yeah, the clip art for this. Great. Okay, what do we think? Daisy's friends are there. She seems happy to see her friends. The most important thing is her family,

and she said she's been through a lot, and she really wants, like she would not move forward with Joey if her family didn't like him. Yeah. She said that multiple times. Oh, yeah. She said it many times.

Which kind of feels like she's... Do you think she thought her family wasn't going to like him? Because honestly, like, everyone's going to like Joey. I don't know. about her family not liking him i think it's more of like her family's just not comfortable and if they can't get on board like it would be very hard for me too i i just think i don't know daisy it's it's really like daisy um just don't know how much daisy's into joey and i think that's

and she does say that she's falling in love with him at the end of this um but i feel like it's really taking her a long time yeah and i I feel like a lot of people will say, like, oh, well, like, that's real. And, like, that is because, like, she's so, like, grounded and down to earth. Like, it's too fast to fall in love. But it's, like, everyone else does it. You know what I mean? Like, people do do it.

People do fall in love in this amount of time in this process. And, like, if you can't, yes, it might be, like, oh, well, like, that she might just be, like, too normal for it all. But it also might just mean, like, it's not her person. but she is getting there. She's just getting there slowly. I do think there can be... Yeah, but is she getting there because she has to be getting.

Like is in her... Like, does she feel pressure that she's this far along? And like she wants to get there. Everyone else is there. She should be there. So maybe she thinks she is. Maybe.

She might, like, she's influenced by her surroundings. Yeah. Well, I know, like, even though you don't know where everyone else is at necessarily, like they're not hanging out the girls. more like this was the week I sent myself home and I remember going into the week pretty aware that like I was not where everyone else was like I really wasn't like I was so like I would be surprised if she didn't have a kind of gauge on where all the other women are feeling and I just feel like where Rachel is with Joey and where Kelsey A is with Joey like it's obvious Daisy is a step or two behind what they're feeling and where those relationships are yeah well I'm mean you don't think she's behind no well i mean i i i feel like there's something missing but like rachel also just said she's the first time she's saying it too but for whatever

reason it just feels like something's missing with daisy and i don't know what that is i think it's because with rachel rachel isn't like second guessing where she's at with him she's just like this is the pace we're moving at i feel good like there's more of a positive tone when she talks about her feelings for Joey there's not really any like concern or hesitation about if she's going to get there and she's pretty like strong about like I hope it's him and I at the end of this whereas Daisy

it feels like she's always like this is where I'm at but and there's like hesitation in her tone of if she's going to get there if she's like moving in the right direction if things are going to go towards an engagement with him like you can feel that I feel like with her a little bit she also said to her friends

like I'm really good about opening up with my feelings to you guys and my family but like maybe not so much in relationships which was interesting to me because I don't know I would just I'd be curious to know more about like her dating history because I'd be curious to know if she's been like that in the past with relationships where she's just always had that issue of like opening up and moving at a certain pace and I'd also be curious to know if her family has reacted a certain way to guys she's brought home because if like there's been guys in the past she's brought home that didn't gel with her family like that could be contributing to this dynamic of her being like uh i don't know how this

is going to go like i can't fully commit until i know where my family stands like there might be some background information in some context here that we're missing but from what we're seeing and the information we're given i don't have 100% confidence if she's into him or not and i don't think she does either yeah well i i agree i agree so um but family likes joey everything went smooth there nothing really to talk about there the mom and the dad were like let down your walls girl like fall in love with him it's okay like be vulnerable like they were great they were super supportive and the mom i think i said when we were watching at the mom like yeah this this woman definitely has watched the show before like she knows what is going down right now yeah 100% which always

makes it a little bit more comfortable at the hometown date when it's like, okay, these guys watch the show. They get what's happening here. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Let's go to Niagara Falls. Maria. Okay. Maria's not from Niagara Falls, just to be clear. And they did it in the U.S. side. They didn't even do it on the Canadian side. It was Niagara, New York, not Niagara, Buffalo, Ontario. Yeah, I don't know why. Or not Buffalo. Sorry. I'm assuming it must have been a filming issue. Yeah, they were like, we can get the same thing on both sides. Why cross the border?

Yeah. But they do the maid of the mist. Have you ever done the maid of the mist before? I've never been to Niagara Falls. Oh, we should go. It's cute. Niagara on the lake is cute. It's very like, it's very, I have no desire.

I have no desire to go to Niagara. Really? Why not? I don't know. It's really beautiful, especially in the summer. It's very picturesque, yeah. Okay. Maybe we'll go.

I don't know. Some of it is a little tacky. Like it's like, can be like, it's very casino-y. Yeah. And like a lot of chains. I do love casinos. Like there's like, you're going to see like Bubba Gump shrimp. It's giving like Times Square Vegas like that kind of aesthetic.

Yeah. It's a tourist. It's a tourist trap. Yeah. But then Niagara on the lake, I believe my geography is like never really accurate. But I'm pretty sure I'm right is like more like wineries and cute hotels. and stuff like that. Nice.

Okay, so they have... Joe's like, I don't care. I'm not going. You couldn't have cared less when I was talking just now. Like, your eyes were glazed over. You were like just waiting until I shut up

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I just don't want to go it's fine Maria and Joey it's like a cruise for me yeah Joe's never going to get on a cruise either okay so she has the conversation about tell it there's the first time she's telling Joey that she's never brought anyone home yeah which is crazy I feel like we knew that as the

audience but I didn't realize that he didn't know that yeah um which is she's not the first contestant to be like hey I've never brought anyone home before but it's shocking that she's saying it, like, right before they go meet the family. Yeah. He seemed pretty stunned.

It was this. I think it started last week. But the vibes between Joey and Maria just seem off at this point. Yeah. Joey, more than ever, is like, I don't know if the spark that we have, this fun, playful dynamic can overcome the issues that we have also. And they've had kind of a rocky ride the whole time. But I really think that last week, she voiced some insecurities and was like, I don't know if I could do this anymore and was basically kind of trying to send herself home, but like wasn't all in on the decision.

Yeah. You could tell he was like, all right. So is this it? Like, are you leaving? Which I think is kind of the first clue that like maybe it's not Maria. Like he wasn't really putting up a fight for it. It felt like. Yeah.

Yeah. How I feel like how Daisy feels about Joey. Joey, Joey feels about Maria. Yeah, like, they have a connection. They're attracted to each other. There's a spark. But, like, I don't think it's going deeper than that at this point. No.

The things should change when you meet the family, even though she ends up getting sent home. But really, you know, family, big Greek family. But really, I mean, I thought the family was great. I really, I really liked the dad. I thought, you know. I really liked her dad, too. Yeah. And they have such a wonderful dynamic.

Yeah, I thought he was great. I really liked his conversation with Joey. I liked how he handled it. It definitely made it seem in the preview or trailer for the episodes that the dad was going to kind of be like a dick. Even though, and he was like the complete opposite. I thought he started off the convo kind of not going in on Joey, but just having a hard serious chat with him about like what's going on. And I could tell Joey was like, because he was kind of like, well, I don't know. And Joey was like, well, okay, let me help you.

Like, let me give you some information. And I think he like really respected that. Me too. And I thought they had a great conversation and it went really well. Yeah. And I liked your dad a lot. Me too. I thought he was great.

Like I actually, I really liked him. I was like, oh, I really like this guy. Maria was really emotional. Yeah. A lot of tears. Yeah. Both like happy, sad, scared all in one, I think. Yeah.

And then we see. I thought her best friend was her sister for like the first half of the hometown. They kind of look alike. Well, I think she's Greek. Yeah. So, I mean, I assume, but I could be wrong. She just looks Greek. They don't look alike.

You're right. They just both look like they're Greek and they both have dark, like almost black hair. But Maria does not tell Joey how she feels. No. And I feel like it was all set up perfectly for her to do that because it's like the date went so well. And then they watched this little montage of her as a kid. Oh, my God. You know what I saw in TikTok?

What? I don't know if this is going to resonate with you Because you probably haven't seen this movie But I'm scrolling through TikTok And do you know the movie The Pacifier with Vin Diesel? Yeah She's in it Really?

Yes She plays one of the Girl Scouts Because the like second youngest kid that he's taking care of He becomes their like Den mother or whatever And they're getting picked on by the boys And she is like one of the girls She has like three lines

I was like this is crazy Oh, wow, that is crazy. I know. I watched that movie like a million times as a kid. I'm just scrolling through TikTok and then all of a sudden it's like Maria in the pacifier. Wow. I know. That's cool.

I told my sister, she was like, I saw that like three weeks ago. I was like, okay. Never mind. So yeah. So she doesn't say how she feels. And I think then we go to the airplane hangar. I love this Rosemary location. I know that's like been used a whole bunch, but I just think it looks so iconic.

It's just so dramatic. I know. No, it's giving, it's like dripping in drama. So right before Joey's about to give out the roses, Maria pulls it to the side. You could see the other girls. Rachel is ready to throw hands. She's so mad, which I don't blame her

because this happened like literally last week where he pulled Maria aside right before the rose ceremony. Maria's dress, her green dress from the last row ceremony, and then this purple dress were insane. But specifically this purple dress. Like she looked amazing. The high slit, like I was like this is. unbelievable water. It was probably freezing in that

hangar, I'm assuming. Oh, 100%. I remember the last row ceremony I was at, it was so cold and you're standing there in these little dresses and strappy heels trying to look cute while you're freezing your ass off. And that was probably another reason why Rachel's like

really... A hundred percent. She's like, I've been standing here for 30 minutes already. I'm freezing cold. But I mean, Maria missed the opportunity. She didn't do it. She didn't do it when she had the opportunity. So she's like, this is my one last chance. And you could just see when she was saying it in Joey's face.

He was kind of like. I think she knew in that moment she was going home. I think she knew by his response. Yeah. Because he just couldn't even like smile. He was just kind of like. No, he was like almost like fuck. Like you're going home.

I'm about to send this girl home. And now she's like confessing her feelings to me. Do you think she went into that night knowing she was going to pull Joey? Or do you think it was like a game time decision? Uh, the way she. I want to say she knew, but, like, I feel like the way she clapped. Clapped? Like, she went like, she did like a clap.

Seemed kind of spontaneous. Like she was like, oh my gosh, she's about to hand out the first row. Like, it's now or never. Yeah. And I think she might have, like, yeah. Yeah. I think she might have like, maybe she thought she was going to do it at the beginning and then decided like she backed out.

And then right at the end, she's like, fuck. I'm going to do it. Yeah, maybe. I think it was the right decision. I mean, like, if I was one of the other girls, I'd be super pissed. But if I'm in Maria's shoes, like, I think she did the right thing because she was going to go home, I think, either way that night. And had he not given her a row, she would have always wondered if it was because she

didn't open up to him. Yeah. And if she had, would have made a difference. So at least she can leave with no regret. She left all her cards on the table. I actually was kind of surprised she went home, but I didn't really know who I thought he was going to send home at this road ceremony. Yeah, I, I thought Maria was going to, was going to fantasy suites.

I've had a hard time the last like two weeks predicting who's going to be final four and now who was going to be final three just because his connections are quite strong with everyone. I thought Maria was going to fantasy suites until Niagara Falls. And it just felt like, it just felt like the vibes between those two are just not there anymore. And all his concerns were coming to the surface. Yeah, and I think it was kind of over from there. That's kind of what I thought. Yeah, especially after the way he handled their argument last week.

And I don't think. Where he was kind of like, it almost felt like he was making peace with her sending herself home. And it's hard to then like backtrack from there. And I don't think like her last second effort like, I think she should have did it too because I agree with like not like leaving with no regrets. Yeah. And I think that would have sucked to left thinking that like if I would have said it, maybe, maybe. but I just yeah I don't I didn't think it was going to work and it didn't and Maria went home I was dying though at Rachel when she came back in she was like what was that about and Maria was like

I don't know she's like you don't know you just pulled him and you don't know why like she was like what is going on yeah I was like thank you Rachel for asking um so yeah she doesn't she sends Maria home she doesn't seem that like I think she was either in shock or she was standing there being like, it's me, I'm going home based on the conversation we just had. Because she was like almost like there wasn't a huge emotional response from her and I feel like we've seen her be

really emotional all season. Yeah, I think I think she realized when she pulled Joey, she realized that she was going to get she wasn't going to get the rose and she's like, okay, I just in her head I think she went like, okay a flip switch and she's like I just got

rejected. A switch flipped. Yeah, what did I say? A flip switched a switch flip and she was just like okay like it's not me brace yourself be tough like it's not you like that's it move on and i think that's what she did and i think that's why we don't really see her get emotional even though i'm sure at some point on her own she probably was yeah totally um i think that was for the camera which i think most people would what you thought she was kind of like being tough for the camera. Yeah, I guess I'm, but I'm also like putting myself in that situation.

And I feel like if it was me, I'd be like, okay, it's, it's not you like fucking toughen up right now. Yeah. You know? But that's very specific to you. I think you're projecting a little bit. Maybe. But she might have, that might have been a thought process.

Like, I mean, I'm projecting. Totally. We're just speculating in this podcast. We don't know what we're talking. You know, we're guessing the whole time. Hopefully when we eventually have Marie on the podcast, we'll be able to ask her more about it. Yeah. Because there's so much that happened with her this season. I mean, she

has been a huge storyline from episode one to now. So I'm looking forward to eventually getting to chat with her and also just getting to see what she has to say at women tell all. Yeah, we'll see. And then I would say there's definitely going to be a push for her to be the next bachelorette. I mean,

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