Bachelor Happy Hour - The Man of the Golden Hour: Chock! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan sit down with Joan’s fiancé, Chock, as they catch us up on all things house hunting in NYC, meeting for the first time, and how the Golden lovebirds are doing since the show ended! Then, Chock weighs in on a fan question: How do you know you’re ready to get married? Plus, Bachelor Nation gets to know Chock a little better with some fun questions! From the worst advice he’s ever received to his favorite memory as a teen, we’re getting into it all. Tune in now, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, we're doing pretty good. We're so happy to be back. And you need to check out our latest episodes because we've been happy. having so much fun answering questions and chatting with your bachelor nation favorites. And boy, do we have one today. We have so the special guest today from Joan's season of the Golden Bachelorette. Please welcome Chalk, the engaged Chalk, to Joan. Hi, Chuck. How are you?

Hello, ladies. I'm doing okay except for the cold that Susan gave me. I didn't give it to her. She gave it to me, Chalk. You can get in line. Get one. So can I just say really quick, it was so much fun. Ladies and gentlemen, listening, we just spent time with him and Joan, and we had so much fun getting to know him. But he hung with four or five women for four days and never complained. Never complained once.

I wouldn't say he didn't complain. I would say he fit right in. He didn't. There was nothing to complain about. He's now officially one of the girls. One of the girls. Don't let that secret out. I've got a little bit of real man.

left. So, so I want, I have, I have so many burning questions. The first one is, which I've not believe, have not asked you this before. When Joan was on our show, she was so quiet at the, at the talent show, Joan said, I'm so shy. I'm out of my comfort zone. I don't talk very much. That girl is vaccinated with a phonograph needle. She talks. Are you surprised out of the bubble how outgoing and talkative she is and not the shy demeanor that she initially comes at you with. Well, as I mentioned before, Kathy,

I never watched any previous episodes. So I really, other than what I read, I really didn't know. You didn't see us? She does talk. I talk a little bit once I get going, but she does talk, but we're a great couple. We enjoy each other.

Yes, I can see that. Well, that was obvious. I could see that. And the other thing that we, Susan and I were just talking to about we want to know you're you were smartly brought those

keys to the finale. It was like steal the deal moment. We interviewed Guy and we were like his mistake was not bringing the I didn't have a key. I didn't know. So have you guys found a place? Tell us what's going on with that.

Well, we did find one that we really like Kathy and it was in Soho and that's where Joan really, really likes the area. I wonder if It's because of shopping, Gucci, and all these other places. I really don't know if that has it could be. I don't think Joan likes high-end items at all, so it's probably not good. We're going to talk about that in a little bit because I have a couple questions for you too late.

But Soho, and we found a place that was what we really liked. We put a soft offer in on it. And then we just heard back around noon just a couple hours ago that the owner is going to take it off the market. So we'll continue to look. We'll find something. Wow. Well, and you've got your family coming. It's just how's that going?

with the melding of the families. Oh, it's perfect. You know, I saw one of the headings on social media going, kids are having a problem. We can't keep the kids away from each other. My daughter talks to her daughters. The boys, I'm going to bring them to a basketball game at KU, Kansas University, go Hawks.

We're going to do that in the latter part of January. So we all get along great. We had a big dinner with all the kids when I was back for Thanksgiving. That was great. It's actually gone smooth. The positive of the easy thing about this, Kathy, though, is they're young adults. They're really not kids.

They're are kids, but they're young adults. And they're leading their own lives. They've been trained. They know how to act. And they're all supportive of Joe. We saw your children. We know how well they act. I love your kids.

Well, except one night, I think Susan had to help Tyler. No, that was a hotel room after a party. He's a good kid. Speaking of keys, you brought a set and he couldn't find his. But your kids are lovely. No, your kids are great. They really are. I appreciate that.

Great. So the other question, and then Susan, I'll let, I want to know about the weekend that you had recently with your guy friends from this show. Yeah. Tell us all about it. Tell us about it. Well, we had talked about this because a couple of guys said, hey, wanted to go to a Chief's game. But what a weekend. And I got to tell you. So who all was there with you? Excuse me? Who was with you? Well, it was Keith, Jordan. Dan was there, and then that was it. Wait a minute. I mean, how can I forget Jordan? Inquiring minds want to know. Is Dan dating Edith and is Jordan dating Leslie?

You know, as a gentleman, I won't answer that question. I'll let them answer that question. I'll like your style. I'm sure asked. I asked them, but fairness to them, I think, if anything. think that's out. It needs to come from either one of those two. But if I can't tell you, Keith has the most outgoing personality of anyone I've met in my life. And he is the glue to keep so much of these guys together. He was very helpful putting this weekend together. But I mean, the guy would

talk to anybody. He had bracelets for the fans. Jordan and, you know, Jordan and I've talked about this 10 times. How is Jordan? I didn't get to know him. He wasn't there at the finale. Now, Gary, He's such a lover, just a warm and affectionate guy. But Jordan wasn't there, so I don't know. Well, and with Jordan, and he and I talked about this, Susan. He has one of the most funniest, the funniest personality you'll ever meet. He's one-liners. He had us going the whole time.

And the fans didn't really get to see all that on the show. But he just, I mean, I was in Stitches the whole weekend. And it was a great time. We had fun of dinner, drinks, and they treated the fans with a lot of respect, too. We never turned down a photograph, you know, with anyone. And Keith was handing out bracelets. It was a lot of fun. The Chiefs won't.

So it was really a perfect weekend. Perfect night on. When you ever went on, I mean, there's so many questions. You know, do you think you would get engaged? Did you think you would make such great friends? I mean, I know you've been on other podcasts and you've talked about these things. But really for you, you hit the bonanza. You know, you found this beautiful woman.

You made these great guy friends. How was it being in the mansion? Susan and I feel like, because we know Joan, we surmised pretty quickly that you were the guy. That you were the guy. I mean, it was pretty clear to us that you were the guy. It was body chemistry. Tell me what it was like on the show. Did you feel it quickly with Joan?

Did she feel it quickly? Well, and I'll reiterate this too, Sue. I had no idea. I had no idea what I was getting into. You know, because I hadn't watched anything, so I had no idea. And it was Disneyland that changed the whole journey for me is just, you know, when she got off the train, we held hands, we walked around and we talked. And it was almost an entire day of just talking. And we got along great.

And we talked about some private things that weren't on camera, which really made me feel good. And then that was just the start of a budding relationship and just got better and better everyday sense of it. Other than these times she was kissing these other seven or eight guys. I was just going to say, how did you feel when it came up to day? not Dan, excuse me, Guy and you. Were you confident in that moment in those hours prior to the very last part? Well, let me say this. Guy, Guy is a great guy.

Yeah. And he and I were friends. And we still are friends. He says to say. And we were, our beds were right next to each other. And we spent a considerable amount of time just talking. A guy made a prediction. He goes, it's going to be you and me at the end.

And I just felt very, the hometowns really. I knew the connection was there. I knew Joan was my lady, you know, the lady I wanted to be with. But the hometowns really, really got me the confidence. And I really did, this is kind of my personality. I don't really care about the other people. I mean, I do from an interpersonal standpoint, but from a competitive standpoint, that just wasn't a concern about it. I knew Joan and I were getting along great. In Tahiti, on one of the islands when we met up, I mean, it was just, it was like we were meant to be together. I'm Jemail Hill, host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics.

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We've all had disappointments in our lives. When you met Joan, clearly she's beautiful, and you came on the show knowing that, that, you know, she's beautiful. But what was, when you met her, what was the thing, the thing that you went, whoa, this really is my woman. What is the thing that drew you to her? Besides her looks, which are fabulous. Yeah, let's not even talk about that.

It was her poise, her, frankly, her honesty, some of those conversations that we had. And at the dinner at Disneyland, where we both talked about or significant others that had passed. And it was like I was talking to an old friend that I go, God, I could be in a relationship with this person. And that there was a commonality there.

And like I've said, and I do mean this, is I'm in no way, especially with kids, competing with John. I've heard great things. one of his good friends told me, he goes, you guys, if he was still alive, you guys met each other, be very good friends. So just complimentary on that, but it was, you know, that aha moment happened three or four times, but really the hometowns, when Joan came back to Wichita and I introduced her to my family and

friends, I go, this is the person that I want. It feels right. I love it. You know it when it feels right. Okay, so Susan and I are both touchy-feely people, and I got to put you on the hot seat here for a minute. Susan and I hug everyone. We're touchy-feiting people. Joan, if she never touches someone again in her life out in public, that girl is a no-p-D-A.

We want to know. We were dying, laughing, chalk. We were surprised, honestly, because I've always hugged her. She probably has been going the whole time. Oh, God, here she comes. When you guys were at the bowling alley and your arm is around her, everyone else thought that she was, like, uncomfortable with her arm around here. And Susan and I were like, no. that's just Joan.

She, you know, she, we knew that, but, but Bachelor Nation, the world didn't know that they're thinking, oh, Chalk's making her feel uncomfortable. No, not at all. No, I think the guys were uncomfortable. I think so, too. On that topic, it's very interesting. Joan and I have joked, is it a Midwestern thing? Is it an East Coast?

No, it is not an East Coast thing. We're here to defend the East Coast. Warm and fuzzy. That's what you ladies taught me. But I am, I'm getting Joan to open up a little bit. Because I do want it, and I think she's getting more comfortable with it. But I have a friend of mine that I see him in the gym five times a week. He gives me a hug.

And before we leave, he's like, I love you, brother. And, you know, some people would have a problem with that. But, I mean, he is a big professional rugby player giving me a hug. And it makes you feel good. He has taught me that it feels good. It does. And hopefully, Joan, you know, hopefully she sees it this way. We all have our personal deal.

Well, between the three of us kissing and hugging her, she's going to get, definitely get used to it. Yes. I love it. Okay, so what we do here is people submit questions and we give them our advice. Would you join us on this? Absolutely. My pleasure. Thank you. Okay, this one's from Lily. Hi, ladies, and Chalk, I need your help. How do you know if you're ready to get married? I've been with my boyfriend for four years now and we've both comfortably talked about one day getting married. I know he's the one. but the thought of actually planning a wedding and getting married kind of makes me freak at. When I think about marrying him, I'm really happy and excited. But when I think about actually planning it or just the idea of a wedding, being soon gets me really anxious.

What is that? For content, I'm 26. Thank you, ladies. Wait, can I just say. Wait, wait, I just have to say to talk, I know that you're very nervous and not wanting a wedding with Joan very soon. So we're going to be very interested in your opinion on this. Well, I was going to have two questions.

How old is this person? 26. And then is this her first or second marriage? Sounds like the first. When my mother taught me is the person you want to be with is somebody that makes your life better. Yeah. If they don't make your life better, walk away. And I do believe that.

So that's just my personal opinion as people look at, their relationships. I think she's more nervous about planning the things. So let your mom do it or somebody. To the anxiety of it because a lot of times the mothers get involved and a lot of weddings are for the mothers where they want a big wedding. My daughter did that. Do what you want, mom. I said black ties. She said whatever you want, mom. When I got married, it was a small, we limited 50 people and we did it on top of Steamboat Springs and it was absolutely gorgeous. And it was Perfect. But there is anxiety, and you have the issues where you don't invite enough people, right people. I was at a wedding where they had a friend do the officiating, and they had no

brides grooms or brides men. And it was a big wedding. Wait a second. Two things I want to say. One is if you and Joan, when you get married, I was kidding. Of course, anyone who has listened to you more than five seconds knows you would marry Joan yesterday. Am I correct? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. So that's number one. I want to straighten that out in case anyone thought I was being serious on that line. The second one is if you have a wedding and it's, could I please, please, like, have some role in the wedding? I've never been in a wedding. Ever. Well, well, and you have my vote, but as every guy says, the lady's going to make the rules. I'm appreciative. This guy is a smart answer. I am a smart answer. I'll make it beautiful.

I don't know. When I got married chalk, I was 20 years. years old. And my father, true story, married four daughters in 18 months, four big wedding celebrations at country clubs, the whole nine yards, four in 18 months. And I'm the only one, by the way, who's still married. Well, I mean, my husband passed away, but I'm the only one whose marriage lasted. But I didn't really plan my wedding. My mom, I was young. My mom did. I, you know, it was, I mean, now I would like to plan a wedding, but I think that weddings are stressed Oh, absolutely. They just are. And then you have the economic part of it where a lot of times the parents will go, well, we'll give you X amount. Go buy a house. And if you don't spend it,

you can use it on a down payment on a house. Yes. Good advice. That adds to the anxiety as well. So good luck. Yes, darling. Let me know. You can do this. And if not, you can elope. I mean, you can have to have this big. And by the way, you've known this guy since you were 22 years old. So, you know, give it some time, make sure he's the right one. Come over and I'll officiate. Nobody has to be there but you still. I mean, we can do that. So, Chuck, I want to know because Joan's not here.

So whatever you say is what's going to happen. Would you want a big wedding, a small wedding, a TV wedding, a not a TV wedding? What do you want? A lope, Susan to marry you, Kathy to be your best man. What do you want? I want Joan to be happy. Oh, please. Susan, I'm going to cry. Come on now.

You're too good to be true. I love you. And I want her to do what she really wants to do. I love you. Like I told her, I had a little thing as I said, what to wear, where to be, and what time to show up. Bachelor Nation, if you think this guy is slinging it, he's not. We spent a weekend with him recently in Joan. This guy is, you are the comments. He's the real deal. I'm talking third person here. Chuck, you were so kind to all of us. You, Joan matched your outfit. You went shopping. This guy actually likes to go shopping. I mean, it's craziness. He likes to go shopping. He's got

style. I watched his shoes, his skinny pants. I know how to pick out clothes. You let Joan dress you and match you. You have good taste. I mean, how have you been on the market for more than 10 minutes? I will tell you that I can shop with a lady

with Joan as long as there's a dude chair. A dude chair. You know what a dude chair is? Yes. I know sit down and make you their things. Probably in front of a bar and a football game. so before we have a fun little game now okay and we want to do it before we have to wrap on today's episode it's fun they're easy questions and this way bachelor nation can know you even a little bit more are you ready so i'm going to take the first question here and just give us the real truth

okay if you were stranded on a deserted island and you could only bring three guys from the mansion Who would you bring? Keith, because he'd entertain me. Okay. Jordan, because he would be funny. And then Jack, because he could cook. See, this is a guy, this is a strategic guy who thinks strategically. Yeah.

Oh, wow. All right. Well, I will tell you when we asked Guy that question, you were one of the people that he chose. Okay, what's one piece of advice? you wish you could give your younger self. I've always worked hard, but don't take everything so personal. And the show has taught me this, and social media has taught me that as well. Don't listen to social media.

Okay, I'm going off script here because I have a question for you. Susan and I had lunch or breakfast or something with a producer while we were in California recently. and she gave us this question and you are the first person I've asked it to. Okay. If you would never see Joan again, the last time you saw her, what is the one thing that you would want her to know if you were never going to see each other again? About you. That I truly loved her.

I knew that's what you were going to say. He's a hard one to ask that. That was for somebody on a date, really. No, I think you could ask it anybody. Yeah. Well, I love that. But aside from the obvious that you truly love her, I mean, because I would have guessed, that's what you would say.

Is there something else that you would want her to know if you were never going to see her again? That I was honest at everything that I told. Oh, even better. Wow. And the next question, Susan, I have for him is, where do we get him cloned? What's something you've always wanted to do but haven't done yet? you know i've had a very blessed life ladies i've been able to do a lot of stuff um i feel that's a hard question if you asked me i really do yeah and um you know it would probably you know at first and

i i got some criticism on this when the show said hey we're going to give you a trip to disney world you know i was originally because i thought joan and i would go do something very exotic and some people said they could just see it on my face i'm actually looking forward to doing that And with her kids, my kids, grandkids, and the thing that I haven't done yet my life is to get my kids married or to have grandkids. So everything else has been pretty much on cute. Yeah. Well, there you go. I have great kids.

I like it. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by Basketball Legend. Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince

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Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, I have a question. What is one of your favorite memories as a teenager? Favorite memories of a teenager was fishing in Hawaii, and I caught a large tuna, fought it for six hours, and I never landed it. But I still remember that. I have the picture sitting in the back of this boat, and I got so sick because I get seasick.

And it was just one of those memories that I just always, you know, just thought this Kansas guy. Wait, you do get seasick or you do get six hours out in the ocean? I get seasick, I get car sick now. So you and I, I have to tell you, getting on the bite, isn't it? We were both car sick in that deal, Chuck, when we were in California. My husband, we went on a deep sea fishing trip once, and I never, just like I've just started recently getting carsick, I never got seasick either until this time, going out deep sea fishing off the coast of Mexico somewhere.

And literally it was like a cartoon, the waves coming up over the boat. I've never been so sick in my life and do you know that is my first and last time ever going deep sea fishing ever so darling if you and I were together I would say you just go and enjoy that deep sea fishing I'll be sitting on the land getting my umbrella drink

all right one more question for you what's the worst piece of advice you've ever been given that work is probably one of the more important things in life work is or is not it is that it is that's the worst piece of advice that's the worst piece oh yeah because work isn't important that's i'm sorry that's i mean it's important but it's not the main you can find a job

if you're willing to work you know it depends on if you want to make money if you want to be happy there was uh i read a or i was watching a and i don't tell me the guy's name but he's very famous it's an AI chat guy that developed and he makes $78,000 a year he has no stock in the company and it's a non-for-profit and he goes this is what I've always wanted to do he's happy and looking back I've made some decent money in my life that's really made me happy it's enabled me to do some things but I probably would say you know like with my kids I've told him they didn't they didn't really want to live in Wichita and I'm like then go someplace you want to live my son wanted to work in London, but he couldn't get a work visa, and that might happen, but go live your life

and don't let a job, you know, really control you. My mother pushed me to go to medical school because she goes, you'll always have a job. And she was a specialist, so she would work someplace for two years, two years, two years, traveled around the world. And when she was getting ready to pass, she goes, I've had this most incredible life. I've got to see everything. I've raised my kids. So, you know, it's tough when you're younger to look at it philosophically because you want that new car you want the house but as you get older i go i worked in my 30s 40s i worked a lot of hours i did and i look back at it and go you know it's tough on a marriage it's tough on relationships and look back that probably would have done that different all right well this since this is uh you know

going to be airing in the new year um i have another question for you um and we've got to wrap this up which i hate to do because you know we love chatting with you um what are some things that you'd like to accomplish in the new year besides getting a place in soho what else playing off with us well i need your lady's help this is my segue yeah i was gonna say go what because no one's listening chalk it's just us what do i what do i get joan for christmas i can tell you we already know we already know what she wants a chanelle bag chanelle bag a chanelle bag do they because we've got a walmart right down the street do they have what aisle is that is and uh because I'll probably get her too.

If they have them on I-O-7-L. Wait, I got to tell everybody, you brought this up, chalk. She's a Chanel girl. When we were in California, you looked at me quietly and you said, does she understand? You don't know this, by the way, what I'm about to tell you. She said, you said to me, does Joan understand that this apartment in New York is like birthday and Christmas and anniversary and everything else for the next three years?

And so I took Joan aside. and I said, hey, Joan, what do you think you're getting for Christmas? Because I just talked with Chalk, and it looks like this apartment in Soho, she looked at me. She said, absolutely not. And I said, well, tell me now, because I will be chatting with him. What would you like? She said, a Chanel bag. I said, I'll make sure he gets the message.

So you were going to get it. I mean, how many does she have? You weren't going to get it on a national podcast, but now everyone knows that Joan is getting a Chanel handbag because you can't disappoint now. I've seen two that she carries. And by the way, Susan and I would like one too. My daughter can tell me where to go get one, but help me because I grew up on a catfish farm. You can go to Neiman Marcus.

We don't have a Neiman Marcus. You can do it online. You can reach out to us. Do you want us to pick it out? We'll just send it out for you. What do I do for her birthday, which is January 11? Oh, shit. Another Chanel bag.

No, no, I take her away. Take her away somewhere. They're going away. No, you know what she likes? get i'm serious she loves get her a nice but not overdone piece of jewelry she likes seriously well my daughter or chenelle jewelry she wears by the way susanelle if you're listening susan and i would each like a bag for this pre-advertising thank you so much no seriously get her have your daughter i'm serious it'll

mean something to her do it you know what you can i'm getting creative here do something with your children's birthstones, your combined children's birthstones, or you're and her birthstone. Do something that will be symbolic that will have some meaning to her. Have you seen her jewelry collection? Yeah, she and I rival each other.

I'm just going to tell you. She doesn't need much. I'm a practical guy. I don't think she needs anything else. I told her yesterday. It's not a matter of needing. It's not a matter of need. I know.

I mean, if you didn't, let me just say to you, Chalk, if when you looked at her, you didn't understand that she was highfalutin, high-end girl, you missed the boat on that. You spent way too much time in the Midwest if you didn't pick up on that one. At least you're not screaming scared. You're good. I did pick up on it. I know. I know. I'm just having fun with this. Yes, of course you are. Okay, Chuck, here we go. Another question for you. Yes. If you could bring back any fashion trend or old slang, what would it be? Well, I'm not saying this is the best decision, but I used to have sidebooms.

And I saw a guy on TV with sideboos. And I go, that kind of looks cool, but I don't think I'm going to be the first to do that. What would the title of your autobiography be? he did it his way okay friend all right well I wanted to ask you but we've got to end here

in a second or so but I really wanted to ask you what your real first name is because I thought I read somewhere that it's Charles that is correct it is Charles it is Charles

my real name's Charles and going through the casting process right before I went out to L.A. They go you want to Charles or chalk and I go my entire life it's been chocked I just I'm shocked it is and I'm not trying to be different that's just what I've always no I like it you're shocked to us Charles was when my mother was bad at yes yeah that's me Catherine when my mother was angry it's that's why I go by

Kathy um so I will I will tell you chalk um when I text you it always comes up the writing implement C-H-A-L-K so I'm going to have to teach Siri how to really spell your name name. Just don't lose the H on it. Right. Right. I got that. I'm quick. All right. Well, on that happy note, that does it for this episode. Okay, one quick question, if I can't real quick. So I'd interrupt you. Is Chanel with three ends? No, it's with $10 signs, though. Yes, major dollar signs. All right. That does it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hour.

Wait, one second. She's always cold like you. Chanel scarf. Oh, please. That could be the birthday. The birthday. She'll get the bag for Christmas, a scarf. She's not a scarf girl. Do not do a scarf.

No scarfs. Do not. I'm giving you good advice there. And for the 10th and final time, we're trying to say goodbye. I hate to end this party, but this is going to do it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.

Thank you so much, Chalk, for joining us. You truly are a jam. And I hope the Bachelor Nation gets to see now once and for all that you are a wonderful guy. You and Joan are worthy of each other and we are so delighted that you two have found love. I am. I am indeed. Kathy and Susan, thank you very much. You're welcome. You haven't seen the last of us. You know that. We're badly now. We love getting the chat with you. We love being in your company. And thank you all for tuning in and listening and getting to know Chuck like we do. Make sure to follow Bachelor

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