Bachelor Happy Hour - The Rules of Dating | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re back answering more of your questions, and the episode is all about the arbitrary rules of dating! We kick off with our question of the day: Do you thin...k the box theory is accurate? Next, we dive into your questions, our listeners want to know: How do I stick it to the guy who ghosted me after so much validation? Can I cut off my now-ex AND best friend after they slept together? We’re answering these and more! Plus, we give some tough love to the toxic daters of the world and we aren’t holding back. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents. and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics
Starting point is 00:01:02 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Why are TSA rules so confusing? You got a hood of you. I'll take it off. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called No Such Thing,
Starting point is 00:01:19 where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do. Now, if the rule was the same, go off on me. I deserve it. You know, lock him up. Listen to No Such Thing on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. No such thing.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness. Psychobabble
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Starting point is 00:02:14 If Flying Makes You Anxious In session 418 of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast Dr. Angela Neal-Barnett and I discuss flight anxiety What is not norm is to allow it to prevent you from doing the things that you want to do, the things that you were meant to do.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks for joining us. As always, we are so excited to be here and spend some time with you. How are you doing today, Susan? Well, you know, those kind of days when you're dealt a lot of lemons. I made some big lemonade today. But I'm happy to be here because I'm going to forget about that day. That's right. And what doesn't kill you makes you stronger? I hate that when people say it to me. I hate it. I know it's so easy to say, though. And you know what? Today, we're going to be answering more of your fan questions to get my mind off of the things that are bothering me today.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Hey, make sure you're submitting because without them, we wouldn't be here. We love reading them and we love talking about them just go to bachelor nation.com slash golden hour and go ahead and submit okay so we want to make susan day this day much better for so we're going to have a blast here today but we do love getting your updates we love hearing from you we need we need information we want to know vacation ideas because we're already planning our next one you can DM us on instagram at bachelor happy hour send us all your information we're desperate we want to know okay now let's get into our episode let's start kathy you know our favorite part the question of today okay so do you think the box theory is accurate the box theory is when a man meets a woman in a romantic setting he
Starting point is 00:04:12 automatically and permanently puts her into one of three boxes to date to hook up with or to have nothing to do with i didn't know that for example if you're in the hookup box you can hold that on sex for as long as possible and it will not matter or if you're in the dating box you can sleep with him on the first date and it won't matter what how do you know what box you're in who wrote this rule i want to know but i do not i do not subscribe to the box theory and no i'll tell you why i think ultimately Ultimately, ultimately, women or men, whoever you're talking about, end up in one of those three boxes. You either end up dating or just hooking up or having nothing to do with the person again.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But where I would say is you don't land in that box on the first meeting. It takes time. Well, when you say, or hooking up, does that mean one and done? Oh, God. Is that hooked? Here we go. Here we go. We have to explain.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Hooking up. I forgot. Hoking up is not making out. It is. It, well, to you, you just go ahead and make out and tell everyone you're hoe and they're going to think you're a ho. I was born in 1957, may I remind you? Get with the time, Susan. Okay, let me get it.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So what do you think? So I don't think so. I don't think it's accurate. I think women and men ultimately end up in one of those boxes. But I don't think that you meet someone and you automatically put them in that box. He automatically permanently. No, I disagree. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Because if you are guys. Wait, can I just say to you? It's a good day. Wait, it's a good day. Your day's getting better. You and I just agreed on something. Oh, my God. Let me get my lemonade.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We should put some vodka in it, I swear. Yeah, but that's... Okay, if you insist. Is there really such a thing is called box theory? I've never heard of it. I mean, you know, if it isn't, somebody wants to invent it and is going to write a book about it, make buckets of money. So, you know, let's go with it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 But no, I mean, I just, I don't think if you're in the dating box, you can sleep with them on the first date and it won't matter. I just don't buy that. I just don't. Some people get married when they do it. Right. No, but the point is you're not, you're throwing in a red herring here. I'm saying, just because you're in that box.
Starting point is 00:06:38 You're hooking up. Yeah, you're hooking up. You could repeatedly hook up too. That's right. Then it becomes, here I go again with my age, a friend with benefits. Do they say that anymore? I don't know. All right, Kathy, you're as old as me, if not older here.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Come on. How about you, ladies and gentlemen, out there listening? I think we still have friends with benefits. I think we do. I think that term is sought there. And you're calling that hooking up, though. I'm going to try this. Well, that's what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Because if you're hooking up with somebody, it's just sex. It's not a relationship. Okay. It's a sex relationship. Let me write that down so I know. I don't know. I swear to God, you know, Susan, the next time you have a date, you know what box i'm not putting you in god help me keep her out of the hookup box because she doesn't know what it
Starting point is 00:07:25 means you think you're getting sex with her really all she's going to do is want to make out with you so buy her beware what's kissing what's kissing what box is that it's it's making out what it's the making out box or the making up they didn't count that that's because that's because it's not a box okay people out there if you're under 40 write me write me and tell me the rules because I know the people over 50 know what I know. I'm just saying I told you my daughter who is under 40 when I said something like hooking up and I she like to have a heart attack right she was like what mom and then and then so you know that's that's where I get my education from is my my children all right let's get into our fan questions here here we go please I wonder if it's about hooking up for the box
Starting point is 00:08:14 But please, God, let it be. Okay, the first question is from Anonymous. She says, hi, Kathy and Susan, please explain the box theory to me. Oh, no, she did. She's good. She's really quick. Does anybody know that quick she is? All right.
Starting point is 00:08:30 But she really, Anonymous really did say, hi, Kathy and Susan, I really need your help. I met my now fiancé five years ago when I moved into his apartment building. After months of flirtatious and changes. Say that five times. fast. Flortatious exchanges, we ended up, oh dear God, hooking up. Okay, Susan, they were not making out. Anonymous was not making out. I'm just going to do a little ad lib here, little editorializing. She was not making out. She may have been making out, but it led to sex. Okay. We both had a lot
Starting point is 00:09:02 going on at the time. He didn't go into detail. So we put a pin in our budding romance for a bit and started officially dating about six weeks later. Pause. Pause. Pause. Put a pin. in it? What's a pin? Oh my God. Putting a pin in this means just going to put everything on hold for a minute. Put a pin in it. Just like put a hold on it. Okay, but put a pin.
Starting point is 00:09:26 It's an expression like hooking up, but it doesn't mean hooking up. It means just putting a hold on things. And so they put it on their buddy romance for a bit and started officially dating six weeks later. So they put a pin in it for six weeks. For six weeks. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:42 They pause. All right. all right well over this past weekend i got a dm from his ex-girlfriend of seven years who we broke up with and cheated on with me i had no idea he was seeing someone and now i feel devastated uh okay she want she warned she warned me that if that's how you got him that's how you'll lose him i haven't told him yet what do i do is he destined to cheat on me uh i have so many questions Thanks, ladies. What do you think, Susan? What do you think? I totally was in on your story, honey. I liked it. It was romantic. It was exciting, sexy, all of the above. Now, W-T-F. Well, tell me why.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Because you can't keep that in. I couldn't. I'd have to say, the next time, excuse my expression, you made them come. I'd say, by the way, I got something on my mind. You're a girl. Girlfriend called me. Let's talk about it. Wait a minute. Hold the phone, girlfriend. Why? Do you not tell? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Unless I'm misreading this because I got stuck when we put a pin in it. Pause. When we took that pause. She got a DM from his ex-girlfriend of seven years who we broke up with and cheated on with me. I'm sorry, where did she get that information? Anonymous, did you get that information from the ex-girlfriend? Yes, and she said, if that's how you got them, that's how you'll lose them. No, we don't know that he cheated on her.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Are you going to take the ex-girlfriend's word on this? I'm going to go and talk. Kathy, I like this. Come on, give me more. I'm so surprised. Did you get up on a different side of the bed today? I did my hair today? Kathy is like, oh no, red flag.
Starting point is 00:11:45 She's seen it a totally new way. Maybe I was hooking up last night and I'm in a better move. No, you weren't. We were on the phone. True, true. But, you know, thanks a lot. For a minute, though, I might have some, you know, cash with the people here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm saying she doesn't know. And Susan, the fact is this girl could just have made it up. we don't know she warned me uh no what you need to do sweetheart anonymous is go and talk to your boyfriend and and let me just give you some friendly good advice here don't accuse him say i got this really upsetting DM and i don't know what to do about it can we talk about it because if you put him on the defensive and he thinks that you think he cheated on her that's going to be that's going to be bad for your relationship. Do you remember the story? Yeah. When I moved in with Mark a few years back and realized it's not where I need to be. Yeah. And when I told them and all that, I hired my movers. I was,
Starting point is 00:12:54 leaving, but I was still there. And I got the phone call. Same as this girl. It was actually a DM. Yeah. And all the stuff she had told me, what do you think he did? Denied at first. Yeah. Okay, but so. So he could deny. So let me, I've told you this story, but now Bachelor Nation gets here very quickly here. I have two dates, Susan. You know this whole story with a guy recently. And I decided he wasn't for me, remember? Yes. And then remember we came back. You didn't even get to do it. I, we, that's what we didn't hook up. I got a call from a woman. I don't how she got my number or my email when we were coming back from St. Martin and she said a million questions and said well he said you dated him for three months and he said horrible things about you
Starting point is 00:13:48 and your husband none of it was true I know no no it was true yet so it could go either way it could go either way so so um you know I would say to you anonymous I know you have questions I know it probably concerned you you've only um you don't know that he cheated on you you've been dating this guy for six weeks go to him with a friendly voice say i'm disturbed it's upsetting can we talk about it see what he says if he's going to cheat on you you're going to find out no she's her he's her fiancee they're engaged right what they're not i met my name Now fiancé, five years ago, my now fiancé, they are engaged. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Sorry. Okay, so they're engaged, but she said his ex-girlfriend of seven years who he broke up with. So we don't know, we just don't know, Susan. We don't know. And anonymous, you don't know either. I'm glad you're engaged and you do need to get to the bottom of it. But I wouldn't go to him and attack it. Does she, though?
Starting point is 00:15:01 If she's strong enough to just put it. behind her and don't block that woman, that could be just a jealous woman. That's what, are we on the, are we singing for the same team here? Pay attention. Drinks or lemonade. I feel for this girl. I do feel for her. But it may not be true.
Starting point is 00:15:19 It may or may not be. So, so anonymous, I'm going to say again, your fiancé, you, for five years, I don't know if you have wedding plans, but if you've been, you know, if you've been fianced for five years. It might be time to tie the knot. That's just another thought. But now, fiancé, that she met five years ago. But when they did the pause, Kathy, I could write a whole story about this.
Starting point is 00:15:43 When they did the pause or put the pin in it, to me, that pops the bubble. But when they did that, he could have been realizing, I really like this woman. I got to end it with the other one. That's right. And Susan, look at you. Little detective,
Starting point is 00:15:58 Detective Susan. I wrote the ball. That's right. There's a lot going on here anonymous, let us know. We both think you should communicate with him and tell him your thoughts and your fears because, you know, marriage, marriage is a thing, right? So if you want to have trust and that's what the backbone of marriage is, I would go to your fiancé and talk to him. Are we in agreement? And then let us know. You're going through with it. Call me. I'll come officiate, but I'll question him first. Thank you for writing it. And Anonymous, I get an invitation too, just saying.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Where I go, she goes. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
Starting point is 00:16:48 This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:17:20 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your thoughts. time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could
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Starting point is 00:20:56 Okay, the next one's from Lilliana. Hi, ladies, I'm fired up and I need your advice. Ooh, I like that start. I went on my millionth first date about six weeks ago. I was loving it from the start. We met through a mutual friend at a party. He asked me out, and we had a great date. A week later, I like it.
Starting point is 00:21:19 He took me to dinner, asked me lots about myself, and was very receptive to questions. drop me off at home kissed me and said I'm excited to see you again I'll text you and then boom okay so what's that called
Starting point is 00:21:34 ghosting nothing thought you were going to say hooking up go ahead I've even tried to reach out and just got ghosted so my question is this what do I say to him
Starting point is 00:21:46 I honestly don't care about dating him this has really put me off but I'm so tired of men doing this shit So how do I really pack a punch and let them know that this was awful? I really want to stick it to him. Can I answer this question?
Starting point is 00:22:05 Walk away with your head high. That's it. I would write it in the newspaper, give him his name, his address. You would not. No, but I meant that people get away with this shit. It happened to me. I didn't get the kiss or anything. He just didn't show up at all.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It does happen all the time. But Lillianna, move on. you know you've had a millionth first date go have your millionth and one first date but it's not worth it even you yourself wants to get the last word in and make them look in a few words just like really remember actually well I have done it but I actually have done it but does it make you feel better not not really not really exactly not really Lillianna I know you're you had such a great time and you really were hoping for more. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Sucks. Yeah, men suck sometimes. And this guy is a member of the suck club. Women do it too. But today, I think I'm repeating myself right now. Today it is so easy to shoot a text saying I just wasn't feeling it. Thank you. I had a good time.
Starting point is 00:23:15 That's it. It's not hard, people. Well, Susan, another one of our ideas, Bachelor Nation, what do you think? and I want to educate men on how to have a first day. We need to open a business, go. Let us know. Liliana, my advice and Susan's walk away, right? Walk away.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah, I agree. You can't stick it to him, you know. Somebody has to want to be stuck, you know. But, you know, go stick a pin in it. Did you ever hear karma? You missed that. I heard the pin. Karma is it's going to happen to him when he really likes somebody.
Starting point is 00:23:49 That's the only thing that you can put out to the universe. Put that energy out there. Not that that's a nice thing to wish on somebody, but when people feel the little sting as when they're putting it out there, when they get to feel it, maybe they won't do it anymore. It's about being kind. Yeah. I just think we only have so much energy in this world.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And Lillianna, don't waste your energy on him. Go find something better to do with your time. But, Kathy, she's had a million first dates. I don't have that many. Well, I mean, oh, I have somebody else. Let us know. All right, moving on. Holly writes,
Starting point is 00:24:26 Hi, ladies, I'm really upset and I really could use some advice. I just found out that my boyfriend of three years cheated on me with my best friend many, many times. Wow. This might be from anonymous. This might be from the first question.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I walked in on them when I got home a few hours. Get the bat. Get the bat. I don't know who I did first. In my bed? Are you kidding me? Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Collie, let me just say, you've just raised Susan's blood pressure. Let me see if I get through this question. A little bit. Okay, I walked in on them when I got home a few hours early from a trip and have just been in a state of shock. I've broken up with my boyfriend. Well, that's a good idea. And I've blocked him and my best friend on everything.
Starting point is 00:25:15 My mom thinks I'm being way too harsh on my best friend. Oh, no. No, no, no. and that I should at least hear her out since I had a conversation with my boyfriend. I know it's not fair to be angrier at the friend versus the boyfriend. Yes, you can be. It's called Girl Code. Sorry, I'm meditorializing again.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But like, that's honestly how I feel. Do you think I'm being too harsh cutting her off? I haven't spoken to her since seeing them and I honestly don't ever want to. Then don't. Don't. Absolutely. Let her feel guilt. Hey, Susan, is this the time for me to tell you I've hooked up with your most recent
Starting point is 00:25:51 boyfriend we have a great time hurt you no you know what it takes two it takes two you can't blame just want to hate people that only blame the other woman or the other man yeah i know darling it takes two but here's the thing why oh that sucks but i do believe in girl coat your best friend i mean how could you do that how could do that to your friend you know how no and and and i don't know You just made me feel yucky inside. I feel for her, Kathy. That hurts. Oh, so do I.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's horrible. I know you do. Holly, here's the thing. Go find a new friend because you'll, in my opinion, and I'm being honest, I love Susan. Everyone knows we are great friends. But if I were dating a guy and you cheated on him, Susan, we cheated on, you know, you went out. I got you. I'd never talk to you again.
Starting point is 00:26:42 You'd be, we'd be done. What's that country song that thing? and she took the bat to his red pickup truck. I don't know, but Susan, I think you need therapy. I'd have sugar in both their gas tanks, flats their tires. How about a key? I think you need to. Before he cheats, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Before he cheats, you're going to do what? No, the song. That's a song. Oh, that's the song. I don't know. I'm into the new Blake Shelton's new song. All my exes are in Texas. That's my new one.
Starting point is 00:27:15 But anyway, Holly, we're sorry. It's Carrie Underwood, I guess. Not like Shelton. I don't know. You know, whatever. Oh, God, Holly. Holly, we're sorry, sweetie. Kathy.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Think about this. I'm, I'm imagining. How am I going to sleep tonight? What do you mean? These people write these questions, I take them to bed with. Well, it's better than other things you could be taking to bed with you. We're back to hook up. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Okay, this is really getting interesting. Holly, no, wait, let us know. Holly, let us know. Let us know. We feel terrible. Seriously, it's a horrible, we're making jokes, but it's not funny. No, it's a horrible thing he did to you. And your mother doesn't get to vote on this. You do it. It feels right to you, Holly. For one second. What do you think about the mother saying you're being too harsh on your best friend? Wait a minute. Did mom have an affair at one time or another? Where does that come from? Susan wrote detective novels in another life. However, I probably would. let her talk. I would hear her out and give her the evil eye and the maloics while I was there. So why are you hearing her out? Okay, Susan, I've been sleeping with your boyfriend and you hear me out. Then what are you going to do? Look at me, Kath. Susan just gave me that you are dead to me,
Starting point is 00:28:34 look. All right. Let's move on. I hope you find somebody even bigger and better. Better. That's right. All right, we are moving on to a little thing that we call tough love because apparently what are they doing to me today? A lot of men and women need a little, you know, advice on tough love here. So we're going to get some advice to those out there who are not asking for it. That's one of my specialties. There are so many issues when it comes to dating. And so, you know, we're going to set some of you, we're going to set some of you straight on this. we're going to switch off reading these hypothetical whoes and we're going to give our thoughts on what they need to hear and i got to say
Starting point is 00:29:18 this may be my favorite game of all time have you ever done tough love have you ever had to with my children i sure have me too and it's the hardest thing i've ever done yeah but you know what i'm not going to say which one of my children yeah but that child is a very admirable human being now today because of it Yep. It was the hardest thing of everyone. All right, here we go. What advice or thoughts do you have for men that pursue women relentlessly only to ghost them after they have sex? All right.
Starting point is 00:29:55 If we had this man in front of us. If we had this man in front of us who relentlessly pursues women and then he ghost them right after sex. What would you say to him, Susan? Do you really feel good about that? Do you? If you do, if you do, I'm amazed. I'm amazed that you have no conscience. Men that just want sex are straight up today.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's 2025. Women just want sex too. That's what I would, that's what I would, that's, I can't believe you took the words out of my mouth. Again, we're on the same page today. I would say to me, hey, as long as you jump out of an airplane together, what do you think? I know, we're doing it. As long as you say to the woman, hey, I just want to hook up with you and have sex. and then I'm out of here
Starting point is 00:30:41 but I'm guessing he doesn't do that so he's a pig and I would probably have to say oink oink dick dick or dick I hope it gets soft and never gets hard again that's what I would wish
Starting point is 00:30:52 okay moving right along sorry how about cheaters Susan would hide his blue pills of evas of a certain age I mean Lorna Babbitt okay Susan you are weak can I just say
Starting point is 00:31:04 I'm on a roll you are violent first it's it's cutting off A bat. Then it's hitting him with a bat. I mean, you're going to take out half the population here. Talk is cheap, though, Kath. I probably cry.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Oh, I know. Okay, what about cheaters? Cheaters, I have no time for it. I mean, people do make mistakes, but I don't know if I believe once a cheater, always a cheater. I think people can learn from things. You know what I would say? I wouldn't want to be in the room. I'm going to avoid it at all.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I would say, no. You, because you know me, I'm always more bark than bite. But I would say to a cheater, you know, there's no way for me to say anything to you that is going to change your behavior because this is not the first time. So my wish for you is that you fall in love with so deeply with someone and he or she cheats on you. You know, what goes around comes on. That's what I would say. All right, go ahead. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:32:07 men oh oh oh this is a this is just say it get it at get it men who complain about the physique of their pregnant formerly or formerly pregnant wives i'm borrowing your baseball bat complain yeah like you know what happened you've you know your boob sag your butt went flat your stomach's big give me the credit card because i'm going to go fix it all and then i'm going to leave your ass after you pay for it. How dare you? They get love handles. Wait, I'm sorry, back it up.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Give me the credit card. Yeah, I want to give me to pay for it. No, yeah, you're not, I don't ask for a credit card. I got one with my name on it that's get filled to him. What are you kidding me? No, I think that is disgusting. That is a disgusting human being. But I've known my ex-sister-in-law, the ones that are dead to me now, her asshole husband
Starting point is 00:33:06 had comments to make about her. I mean, met do this. That's terrible. My husband, did your husband ever do it? Mine never did. No, I got teased and stuff, but no. Teased? Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:33:19 What do you mean you got teased? My own father. I had twins in my belly. You look like the side of a barn when you stand sideways shoes. And now you don't die. Is that when you were pregnant? My hormones. I'm going to cry between days.
Starting point is 00:33:32 No, no, no, no. I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, I guess when you were pregnant. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, my husband used to say jokingly, I thought your boobs were supposed to stick out further. I mean, I thought your stomach was supposed to stick out further than your boobs. Listen, can I just tell you, I was a Guernsey cow. I could have milked the entire state of Texas. I looked like I could feed the state, but hardly any milk came out. Do you know what I said to the plastic surgeon when I went to go have my breast lifted? He goes, Susan, what is it I could do for you? I said, doctor, I don't mind if I don't pass the peasant. pencil test. I don't want to hold
Starting point is 00:34:08 the remote control anymore. He started just pick them back up, please. Okay, well, we both had boob issues. We both had breast reductions done, moving right along. Show me a woman that's had children that doesn't. I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:25 it's part of... No, that doesn't have different breast afterwards. I mean, you know... I mean, it's just nature. And the man that's going to say something about it, he's got to pay for it, God. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
Starting point is 00:35:12 And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman. I'll just be honest.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Jamel Hill, host of the sports and politics podcast, Spolitics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like, when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind.
Starting point is 00:36:02 But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, do this, pull that, turn this. It's just... I can do it in my eyes closed.
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Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah. You just, like a dick pick. He sends you a dick pick. I had those when I came off the show. What? I was like, I told you. I was opening my, so many DMs. Boy, they hardly get any.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I got four. Two of them were dick picks. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding? Do you think I'm desperate because I didn't get Gary? Wait, Gary didn't send you a dick peck to any. No, no.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Did you ever reach out to these guys? No. I blocked them and deleted it. I should show you the one, though. It was great. Listen. I didn't know if it was real. Did you get out your ruler and measure it?
Starting point is 00:39:20 I took a double dig like water. No, you know what Susan did, guys? She took that photo, had it's blown up to a poster and it's hanging on her bedroom wall. Exactly. You knew where I was going. No, that's gross. That's gross. But I don't have a problem with when you're with somebody.
Starting point is 00:39:35 If they said a little sexy pick, yeah, I like that. But I want to know it. I mean, know him. It says unsolicited. Yes. That's why I said divine unsolicited. Moving right along. Yeah, moving right along, Susan's got, she'll have a few more posters up in her bedroom by next week this time.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I would never have. I'd hang a nude of myself before I'd hang a dick pick. Okay. All right. People who forget their partner's birthday despite being together for years. Oh, I've got the answer for this. There is no excuse. Absolutely. Put it on the calendar. Have them remind you. Call your secretary if you're the guy. If you still have a secretary, that's what, you know, my dad used to do that. They don't call them that anymore, Kathy. That's what I know, but that's what my dad. He's called the secretary. assistant or your personal assistant. Men who buy women drinks but get upset when they don't want to spend the whole night with them.
Starting point is 00:40:37 That's the only reason you're buying. I have a lot of men buy me a drink and I don't even hardly talk to them. Yeah, but you know what? That's not the point. The point is what I would say to the man, I would look him in the eye and say just because you bought me a drink or two drinks does not mean I'm hooking up with you. Notice, Kathy said two. she wants two. No, actually, I want the whole fucking bottle.
Starting point is 00:40:59 But anyway, I'm just kidding about that. But I'm saying, I would say, guy, you don't, this is not, it's not an engraved invitation to take me home with you or you home with me. Just because you bought me a drink, you got my fabulous personality. That was the payment. You got to chitch out of me. You know, it's a nice thing to buy somebody a cocktail. That doesn't mean they owe you anything.
Starting point is 00:41:22 You should be doing it because you want to be nice. make somebody smile, make somebody feel good. And if they decide to have a conversation with you. Yes, I have. I mean, that you didn't know. Yes, I have. I've done it once. I never talked to him either.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I just sent it over. We did the wave. Okay, now you and I really are relieved. And then his girlfriend came back from the bathroom. I like to melt my chair. I swear to God, I was mortified. But he liked it and he kept looking all night. I'm like, don't look at me.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Don't. I did not know. that was me trying to be a big girl and flirt and you know how women can be never again oh that's really funny that i said it to a guy sent it to a guy at a bar once and he smiled and he said hello and you know that was it and sadly there was not another woman that came and sat down next to him so you came out of the bathroom kathy i was like oh give me the jack i'm getting out of here Okay, but to the men, to the men who do that and think, I, I got to say, no, it is not, it's not hunting season just because you bought her a martini.
Starting point is 00:42:33 If you want to be nice and buy somebody something, you know what, it is a good gesture. And if she's interested, you have, you started something. But odds are, she's going to say, hey, thanks. Yeah. And, you know, whatever. People that are afraid of commitment. How do you tell somebody? If they're afraid, they're afraid.
Starting point is 00:42:55 What are you going to say grow a pair? I mean, yeah, you could ask why. Why are you afraid of commitment? Parent issues. Mommy issues, daddy issues. Mommy issues, daddy issues. Maybe they've been divorced 10 times and they don't want to go down that road again. What is commitment?
Starting point is 00:43:10 Commitment means I am committed to you. There's nobody else. That's what I see. And they're afraid of commitment because they want to leave that door open. But can I just say, I've got to be honest with you, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think people who know who they are, there's nothing wrong. Who says you have to commit to someone? I mean, if you're married your children.
Starting point is 00:43:36 They're afraid to commit. They never commit. You've been dating somebody, say you're in your late 20s, early 30s. You've been dating somebody for nine years. You expect the rain. Susan, do you think I'm dating anybody for nine years? Let's start there. No, never mind.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Never mind. I mean, if they're afraid of commitment. Okay. How about saying get into therapy? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Okay, go ahead. People, thank you, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:44:03 People who forgive their partner for cheating, but hate the other woman. We just talked about that. It takes two to tango. Yeah, it does. I mean, and you can forgive, but you got to forgive both of them. Yeah. You won't forget it. You might have a secret little.
Starting point is 00:44:21 little thing up in your head, but. Do you think people, I mean, this isn't, this isn't on our list for today. But Susan, honestly, could you forgive your partner for cheating? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You said, the reason I asked the question was you said, you don't forget. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:45 You would never forget. I don't know. I think people can forgive, but you're always going to be on your guard. it would put a real strain on the relationship. Yeah. I don't want to go there. All right. We're not.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Oh, boy. People, what about this one? Women who go after their best friend's crush or ex. We've just talked about that too. Yeah. What is going on? I don't know. I guess we are.
Starting point is 00:45:11 All right. Let me ask you this. So, I don't know. We'll pick Nancy, dated somebody for a long time. And it was so five years ago. And now you run into this man and it's Nancy's ex. But it was so five years ago and Nancy's moved on. She's happy.
Starting point is 00:45:27 She's married. And you have a little spark between you. Is there something wrong with that? I don't think there is. I don't either. I do not think there is anything wrong with. But, but, well, wait a minute. What if before we.
Starting point is 00:45:45 If it's a crush, then if I say to you, my mind is going so fast right i was about to say something that i might regret um if if i if i met someone and that we mutually knew yeah and i said you hey susan i think i'd like to have a date with that guy and then i heard that you had talking or dating with that guy i might be a little bit more made the best woman win i don't know would you say that though No, no, probably not. No, I'd suffer inside because I would feel bad. My friendships are important.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah, friendships are really important to me. I don't know. That's a tough one because the X I wouldn't care about. You can have them. I dumped them years ago. Good luck. But if you had a crush on him, if I had a crush on somebody but he was interested in you, I mean, I would be okay if you pursued it because he wasn't interested in me.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I'd be a little probably jealous or envious for a few minutes, but. I think that's the thing you have to know if the guy has any interest in you. It's pretty general. We need a bigger picture. We need the bigger picture. Actually, the line forms here. Get behind me, girls. Wait.
Starting point is 00:47:01 That just reminded me. I don't know why. I had a way too much lemonade today. Go ahead. There was an emergency landing when I was a flight attendant a hundred years ago. And the other flight attendant said to me, oh, my God, what are we going to do? I said, follow me on the way out because we had a train, how to open the exits. And she goes, you're going to help them all get out.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I said, hell no, I'm going to say, follow me. Get in line. That's great. And now I wonder why you didn't have a long career as a flight attendant. Every man for himself, Susan Knowles was across the runway before the other people were just trying to find their person. But these thoughts go through your head. And what do you think my friend Mary Jo says to me? Because I was senior flight attendant, so I was up front.
Starting point is 00:47:46 and that's you go first you know the best place to be is in the back of the plane and I'm sitting there looking at the coffee pots and all the stuff that's going to fly in my face and we're about to leave we hug each other and this could be it we don't know and she said good luck I'm so glad you're seeing your we were laughing so hard it was scary okay guys oh enough of that you know what cat that was fun it really was I laughed. It's always fun. You're laughing. The lemonade is still in my head, though. The lemonade's in your head, but you're laughing. You're laughing.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Hopefully our listeners were laughing today with us. You know, this thing, I hope they know that this is, when you and I are doing these, when we're just by ourselves, this is what goes on. I mean. This is real life for us. I was at the gym yesterday, and this woman came up to me. Oh, I know. Did you see her post?
Starting point is 00:48:42 Did you see her post? Ms. Strong, she makes me feel bad because I'm sitting here eating the cheese thing. I am working out I am working out but this woman who by the way is from Philadelphia she told me she's from flower something
Starting point is 00:48:53 flower town yeah flower town that was near you not really but no it's not far it's not hours but anyway she was from flower town
Starting point is 00:49:01 and she said are you two really friends because she goes you two crack me up like is that a put on I talked for 10 minutes who can put this on the way we fight
Starting point is 00:49:10 the way we laugh the way we love are you kidding me oh man thank you guys for listening and special thanks for you guys that wrote this stuff. I really, we do take it seriously. I get shocked that some of the things that these people are going through, but that is life. It is life. And you know what? To the extent that we help somebody just laugh, have a
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Starting point is 00:50:13 And when you're dealt lemons, make lemons. Lemonade. Have a great day, everybody. Ciao. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to, to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents and there's life after Congress.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Why are TSA rules so confusing? You got a hood of you. I'll take it off. I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called No Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do. Now, if the rule was the same. Go off on me. I deserve it. You know, lock him up. Listen to no such thing on the I-heart radio app.
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