Bachelor Happy Hour - TikTok Star Elyse Myers Joins Bachelor Nation

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” it’s a TikTok takeover! Our hosts are joined by their favorite TikTokker and new best friend Elyse Myers as they break down all the drama from this week���s episode of “The Bachelor” and so much more. In her conversation with Becca and Serena, Elyse discusses how deep her love of “The Bachelor” goes, how she got started on TikTok, and how much work goes into her incredible “Bachelor” recaps. Plus, she gives us a follow-up on that viral Taco Bell date and reveals who her “Bachelor” hall pass is.  Then, in her Bachelor Fashion Breakdown, Serena reveals her favorite looks from this week’s episode, and in a fun game, Elyse reveals how she would handle different “Bachelor” scenarios if she were ever on the show.  “Bachelor Happy Hour” has exclusive interviews every week. Watch “The Bachelor” on ABC and listen to “Bachelor Happy Hour” the next morning.  Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm hoping from here on out the crazy is done. Yes, things have definitely taken a turn for the serious and the romantic. And Becca, I am so excited. because today we have one of my favorite Bachelor recappers and TikTokers, Elise Myers, here to break it all down. Oh, gosh. I just got the chills when you said that because she is one of my all-time favorite people.

She is a new, dear friend. And just she is an absolute delight. So I cannot wait to have her on to share her with all of you listeners. But in the meantime, we of course have to quickly break down last night's episode because a lot happened. So to start it off on a high note, Serena, give me your favorite fashion moments. All righty. Let's get in to the fabulous fashion this episode. So I'm going to start off with the day look. I first want to give a shout out to coats. We saw some great coats in this episode. We are in Vienna. It's a little bit on the cooler side. We're seeing some spring, fall temperature, fashion, and I'm loving all of the coats. But my day, look has to go to Gabby. This may be one of my all-time favorite looks of this season. I was absolutely obsessed with it. She wore a chocolate brown leather pant, a short little heel, and a brown kind

of corseted sleeveless top on the group date. And she had gold jewelry. Her hair was pinned up with a little bit down. I mean, it was 12 out of 10 chic. I was obsessed with it. Moving in to the night look, I'm going to have to give this one to Rachel, very classic, simple, elegant, sexy, all of the above. She's wearing just a black slip dress. If you watch me on The Bachelor, you know that I love a good slip dress. They are comfy and fashionable, my favorite combination. So she's going to take the cake on that one. And then last but not least, for the rose ceremony gown. I'm going to give it to Serene. for this is for the second rose ceremony because we saw two in this episode. She wore a gorgeous green gown.

It was sparkly. I think this kind of teal, dark green tones is really her color. I think she looks so beautiful in it. And then obviously, I would be, it would be a mess if I didn't shout out Susie's gorgeous. Yes. Gown. I was actually going to ask you how you felt about that gown and just everything she'd tried on it in general because, I mean, that red gown was a stunner.

Stunner. Beautiful. I was so jealous. We've seen a lot of fashion dates. They pretty much do in every season. But this one was ultra special just being in Vienna, getting to meet with the designer of all of these gowns. I think my favorite was she wore.

She tried on a high neck floral gown and it was very multicolored and it just looked like a piece of art. that whole date was beautiful i guess that's the perfect segue into this recap because that was one of the points i wanted to touch on was that whole date was just stunning especially when she met the designer they went into this gorgeous gallery it kind of felt like a museum if you will and there was just all of these gowns lined up and i was like this is most every girl's dream like it was beyond beautiful and i do have to say like those fashion pampering dates always bring success because if you go back in history

the people who go are picked on those dates usually go far for instance I was picked on R a season for that one went pretty far you know um I believe just a little just a little I believe Brian Abasolo on Rachel's season they she did like a pampering fun spoiling date for him he obviously won and then correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Rachel on Matt season get that date as well yes so Rachel got the day about midway through our season and obviously they are together and happy so yeah there's success with the shopping dates you definitely see a pattern it's you know of course like whoever gets

it so lucky because you get pampered you get all these incredible things but uh if it's all you know in line with what we've seen in history you also get the person at the end so we'll see i like i said at the beginning of this entire season i have high hopes for susy i feel like she's i mean she's obviously going to hometowns but i think she's going to go far so got my my eye on that one. I know. They have a good connection and you can see it. Definitely, definitely.

Another, I have a couple points to pick out. Well, first I'm going to have you take it away because I feel like I might be ragging on certain things. So give me some of your high points of this episode. Okay. I'm trying to take it back because so much happened in this episode. I mean, we saw the Rose ceremony. Oh, I guess we started off this episode actually.

Let's take it all the way back to the beginning with Sarah coming back from her one-on-one date. And then a lot of this episode revolved around Sarah in general. I mean, we basically saw the start and the end of the Sarah drama all in one episode, which I don't know why we couldn't have had that go down with Cheney, but we dragged her drama out for half the season and then packed Sarah's moment into a solid hour and a half. Good point. I'm surprised at how quickly that happened. I'm sure, and I mean, from what we saw from everyone else talking to claim about Sarah. I think it had been brewing for a while. For us, it, like you said, it seemed like it was just packed into an hour and a half. It was interesting, though,

because I think at the start of the entire season, no one would have pegged Sarah for, I mean, this quote, unquote, villain, if you will. But it seems like towards the end, she really rubbed a lot of the girls the wrong way. And it was interesting because the way that she approached the women, and especially Mara, when coming back from that, second one-on-one was so interesting and I think that was the beginning of the end because you really started to see her confident well overconfidence slash cockiness I want to talk about the group date really quick because again we had another therapy session I feel like we've already had one this season I know I've given my opinions on these group dates these types of group

dates before and I'm just not a fan and I'm like, why couldn't Clayton have just had these conversations with the women without a therapist present? Like, we didn't need to do this people, right? Yeah. I mean, I will say I liked this style of therapy dates significantly better than the truth circle because at least this was slightly more intimate. It felt like a mediated conversation between two people in a relationship versus like, let's all forcefully share our deepest darkest traumas with each other. We just met. So it felt a little less uncomfortable for me to watch as a viewer. But yeah, I mean, the therapy dates. Wait, can we just, I know I'm totally jumping here, but my brain just went from like Sarah thanking the

therapist for being present to like her crying. Then at the end of the episode when she was having the conversation with Clayton, he basically was like, I think you're fake crying. I don't believe you. I was actually so shocked that he finally called somebody out. I was like, there's no way he's ever going to say something like this. And then he's like, I think you're being fake. I don't believe those tears. I was like, hell yeah, this is what we wanted, Clayton. I know. I know it's at somebody's expense and it obviously, I'm sure, sucked for Sarah. But I'm so glad he finally got to the point where it's like, we actually saw some emotion and feeling before I felt like he's always so buttoned up. He's afraid to say certain things. He's afraid to really

asked the right assertive direct questions. So I'm proud. I'm proud that he called her out. I mean, I think it caught Sarah very much so off guard. I do not think she was expecting that just from everything she was saying. I don't know what the women were saying, but I have to give props to claim for that moment. Yes, it was such a good moment. I mean, I, we've seen Sarah cry multiple times. I feel like we know what it looks like when she's genuinely upset and crying. There was not a single tear coming out of her eye. I mean, I was looking at her crying, quote unquote, crying. And I was like, I don't see any actual tears on her face. And the minute Clayton said, you know, I feel like you're just trying to make yourself cry. She snapped right out of it. And then he was like,

yeah, I don't believe you. And then even at the car, he was like, I don't believe you. Which this episode more than any other episode i was like clayton is the bachelor like he's woken up he's realized what role he's in and he's finally kind of taking the situation into his own hands i was so grateful to watch that yeah i want more of that clayton if you can give us more please and thank you um yeah it was interesting she i had a point i wanted to say about the fake i was just so disappointed with sarah i really liked her and i just yeah i was disappointed well this is what I want to say. I'm going to use now her words against her, but it seemed like a last-ditch effort, you know, and that's exactly what she said to Mara. Yeah, it's, she's gone. Well, I mean,

I think when she's sitting there being like, I have amazing relationships with the girls in the house, like I have best friends here. Meanwhile, the three other women are saying to Clayton, the exact same story of like, this is what's gone down and this is how we felt. It really just doesn't add up like if I'm sitting there like I would feel the same way like I don't believe you I I wish that we maybe would have seen more of what Sarah was actually saying to all of the women there was you know we've seen her say like I'm really confident in my relationship and my connection with claim but that's all like I wish we could have seen more because it does seem like it was extreme if multiple women are coming saying the same thing um but again like

we only have so much to air and of course like a lot of the shenade drama took up everything All right. Well, next week will be a big week. It's definitely a turning point week when he goes to Hometown's and meets four families. So I can't wait to see what happens. But in the meantime, I just, I'm so freaking excited right now. We have our TikTok takeover because we have to bring on our guest, Elise. She is not only a TikTok sensation, a web developer. She's an incredible singer and songwriter. And she just added motherhood to her resume. She has the cutest family, the sweetest husband. And she is just an absolute gem of a human. So I can't wait to share her with our listeners. I think it's time, Serena, to bring our girl, Elise Myers, on to Bachelor Happy Hour. For all of our listeners, ever since Becca met Elise, she has not stopped talking about her. She is truly her number one fan. So, Elise, welcome to see.

Oh, podcast. Wow, that was perfect timing. That was truly perfect timing. I'm going to try really hard to not pass out and fan girls. because that would be really inappropriate for being on your pocket. So I'm going to just drink my water and do my best. But oh my gosh, hi. We can't have you pass up because, wait, hold on.

I have a surprise for you, Elise. Oh, my gosh. Hi. Oh, Tommy. They're not going to be there, too. I was blue with envy when she told me you're coming on the podcast today. I've never wanted to be a host more in my entire life. Wait, look at the doggies.

They all want to say hi. Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited to have you. Thomas will probably come back on before you head out. Oh, I love it. Um, oh my gosh, Elise, Serena, as you were hopping on, it's just saying how much I fan girl over you since we met, Elise, I have to say, like, sometimes you just meet people in life and you just connect and you know you're just going to be friends for a lifetime. And I feel like that is how

Thomas and I felt about both you and your incredible husband, Jonas, and your cute little baby August. Like, you three are just such wonderful humans. You're just like, you brought so much joy to the weekend that we spent together. And so ever since, and I was like, we got to get Elise on. We have to have a lease on. I have to share it with our listeners. No joke, Elise. I have heard about you every single week that we record this podcast since the day you guys have met. And Becca has made me so excited to meet you. So we are so happy to have you here today. I am so excited. And I will tell you right now, I like did not think Becca that we would meet the way that we did. I thought that like when you like walked on to the premise of our location in California, I

You walked in and obviously like I literally almost lost my mind and Jonas was like at least just like take a few deep breaths and I was like it's all good I'm going to ruin dinner and you're not even going to be there to help like bail me out. Can you guys share how you met and where you met in this whole story? Yes, definitely. Take it away at least. Take it away. So we were doing this thing in Ohio Valley for a brand deal and me and Thomas were both hired

to be like filming content over in like this like cool camera. area and Thomas was on the Zoom call leading up to this like weekend and he was silent the whole time and all of a sudden right in like the last 10 minutes he asked this question is little tiny square pops up on my screen and it's Thomas's face and I mute myself and I scream to the other room I was like Jonas it's Thomas he's like like bachelor Thomas and I was like yes and so I was like well obviously Becca is not going to be there Thomas it's just going to be Thomas Bega has like all these important like celebrity things to do she's not going to be there in oh high so like it's okay i'm like i'm just excited to meet thomas

like literally everybody i can't wait so then we get there and then thomas and beka roll up and i see thomas and like oh he's just so tall and so cool like i can't wait to like it's no i mean the husband's going to have to and all that then beka gets out and i was like okay okay cool like i'm going to lose my mind so then we get to dinner and like i know way too much about you becca obviously the whole world knows way too much about you like you i know more about you than you know about you at this point like things that aren't even true yeah and so and so you're at dinner and i realize like i know your name but like people probably don't introduce themselves like asking your name right like people just like probably walk up to you and like they know you so they

don't think to be like what's your name so we're sitting at dinner and i'm like i haven't introduced myself to you yet my name's alice and then i was like we're going to be best friends so oh yeah the moment i knew we were going to be friends is so we sit down to this like lovely catered dinner we were handed champagne off of this lovely tray once we get it I'm like I was like this is service and we sit down we all go to our seats and at least just starts chugging her champagne she's like I just had a flight this is the first time I flew with my one year old it was crazy blah blah blah like you're going into like how stressful I can only imagine how stressful it was to fly with a one year old on the first flight ever for him and you chug your wine and I was like oh I'm going to be friends with this girl

Girl. And then I asked for another one because I was like, I don't know if they're like doing a fancy toast. So I was like, can I have another glass of champagne? And we didn't. So I just chopped out. There's nothing worse than chugging your drink. And then someone asking to do a toast. And you're like, well, I'm going to be that girl with the empty glass. Yeah, definitely. I'm so glad that's not what happened. So I got to try a second glass. Oh my gosh. But then I have to say, so I had like posted videos of us that first night of dinner. And we had this like beautiful rice bowl with like this paste. street like puff pastry pop pie yeah and and and Thomas wanted Elise to do the honors so she like

kind of you know kind of like the crumb relay you like crack it open and start digging in yeah and so I got a video of Elise cracking it open and you I don't even know what you said like oh this is a good vintage year or something yeah and I posted it on Instagram and the next day I woke up and like all of my friends in the bachelor world like especially Tia booth everyone was like we're so jealous and at first I thought Tia was saying she was jealous because because of the food, like how good the food looks. And she's like, well, yeah,

that looks good too. But like, I'm more jealous that you're hanging out with Elise. And so I had to tell her that. But it was just, we started off on such a good high note. We went there. And then we're just keep on going. Well, so first off, let's start it off. How have you been? You have the most adorable family. Just catch us up on you and life. Me and life. We're good. We got back. And then we just were in Kansas. And so that was like another one.

of August 1st like road trips so that was fun we spoke at a university there which like not when I went to I did never graduate in college so I'm just trying to sit here and be like everybody stay in school I didn't and I am successful but that doesn't always happen and so that was fun and just kind of waking up and making videos at four like I usually do and yeah being in conversations I have no business being in but somehow am and it's just you know it's amazing where do you guys live now. We live in Omaha, Nebraska. Okay. But hopefully we're converting them to southern California. Yes. It's not that hard. I'm originally from California. So I am super excited to kind of just like be able to be there so often. And we're going to be spending a month in California in April.

So that's my goal to just be like, see, Jonas, it's so cool over here. Like my family's here. You're going to love it. Yeah. Well, I'll be on tour in April. But if you don't see Tom, when you're here. I'm not going to hear the end of it. So make sure you see him. We're going to see you in March. Yes. I cannot wait. I'm so excited. I'm going to wear a full ball gown. Should I wear my wedding dress? I think so. I might be calling you up on stage. Well, I'm going to be ready. Okay, Elise, you are big in the social media scene. Obviously, you are huge on TikTok. So I'm going to actually hire you to help me because I don't understand TikTok at all. But your videos, well, you could have won me because your videos are

credible. I feel like I just go down rabbit holes and watch video after video after video of you. But can you tell us, for all the listeners who don't know what actually made you blow up on TikTok, what was that video about? Because it is so good. Oh my gosh. So I went on date with a guy like almost 11 years ago now online. So I'm already going to start laughing. Like just remembering this TikTok. What's so crazy. Okay. There's a lot. Okay. Story. So oh my gosh i can't believe this actually happened okay so i went on a date with a guy online literally it's like craigslist at this point in like 2011 like online dating apps are not cool they're not fun it's super shameful like meeting somebody online so i got a message from this dude and he had like

one photo first of all first red flag like why don't you have 12 000 photos for me to look through you know like a anyways so he's like i like your face it's good get some food and then i was like i love food you're my soulmate um let's definitely go do that but he wanted me to drive to him so i drive see him um and i'm like trying to figure out whether this is the same person in the photo and he's already getting into my car and he's like um hey can you drive us to dinner and i was like yeah i guess and then he's like giving me turn by turn directions and we land in a taco bell and i was like uh and then um i'm like dining or drive through and he's a drive-thru so i was like i go to know i got to know when he was like let's go get dinner you were like

Yeah, there was no, like, follow-up questions of, like, where are we going to dinner? How far is this place? Like, is it Italian or pizza or sushi? Like, I would have six million questions. You were just, like, I'm all led to. I had them all. I had them all, but I was 18 and I, like, don't, I don't know the etiquette of dating. This is my first time ever dating somebody that wasn't, like, from high school where I had

already known his whole life story, his mom and, like, saw baby photos of him. You know what I mean? It's like, that first, like, adult world dating experience. I'm like, am I allowed to ask a question? should just like raise my hand like I don't know what's like I'm a girl like should I have any questions like well in you in your defense he said let's get food I'm like you know I've been like hell yeah I love food okay literally that was my thinking so so we landed at Taco Bell and I'm like I'm a girl they can get down with some tacos like that's really not an issue with me like

so it wasn't like the Taco Bell thing it was just that like it was the it was the no not telling me where we were going so I was like he must have like a plan and if he doesn't I like Taco Bell so it's fine so we go to a drive-thru and literally like as i'm rolling my window down before i can even like get the window fully down he's like fully leaned over me and is like on my lap like through the center console asking like i would like a hundred hard-shel tacos and i'm like a hunch like so i'm like okay and he's like do you want anything and i was like no i think unless you plan on eating them all like i think that's good i think i've all you like thank you so then like as we're driving from the speaker to the window, he does like the pat thing. And I'm like, no. And I was like,

did you forget your wallet? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, do you need me to pay? And he's like, yeah. How much was it for 100 Taco Bell tacos? He was about 150 USD. Wow. Oh, my God. He is not a cheap date. No. They didn't give me like the party pack deal. They didn't give me like no value. Did you like extra hot sauces? oh they gave me a whole box of hot sauce like that was a whole box one per taco yeah and and i did a video of me reordering the 100 tacos when i hit like i think a million or something followers and i showed a physical representation of what that looked like in the car and what it looked like when i grabbed them all and ran out of the house but that's so so we got out tacos and i was like okay like where are we going next and he's like

oh we'll just go back to my house and i was like i'm already committed now like i'm minute i can't i want one of these damn tacos i know i'm like at least i'll eat first you know so we go back to the house we walk in his dad is sitting on the couch and i'm just like okay he lives with his dad like i'm literally teleporting through hoops to like explain to my brain that this is okay we sit down he like pours all the tacos down on the table screams let's feast and then i'm like oh my god i'm gonna be murdered like i think that's the best part of the story though is the let's let's feast well so then so then we're like eating tacos and silence and i'm I'm like, okay, this dude loves tacos.

Like, you know in your heart at this point, like this isn't the first time he's done this. Like, this is a regular occurrence. Oh, yeah. And the thing that really showed me, I was like, this is a rehearsed experience for him is his dad comes over is standing over me eating like lettuce, like, lettuce, like falling out of his mouth on. Yeah, like something they do together.

Yes. And you've just been included today. Oh, yeah. And he goes, do you want to see my studio? And they look at each other and that look of like, this is the time where we go show them the studio. I like literally like I have like goosebumps because it was so creepy this is the beginning of a horror movie yeah they're like a weird porno like either way whatever that studio was I'm like I don't care if you want to show me your sick beats or if you want to film an inappropriate movie but either way like I do not want to know like what it is and so I like was like non good and I gather all the tacklers and I walk to my car and try and make it look like I don't need help because the last thing I want is for him to like have a

visual like memory of my license plate so i just in shame i get the vibe he wasn't gonna help you i mean he didn't drive he didn't pay no i'm so intrigued about what this studio is now has he ever since you blew up on tic-tok and posted this video has he ever tried contacting you no no oh my gosh i want you to send me his name because i want to creep on him and see if i can message him and be like what was in the studio so i don't know i don't know his name because he tried he tried he tried to message me back and I like after the date to ask me to go on another date and I was so terrified I would get really drunk and respond to him that I deleted my entire account my whole okay cupid account I was like I don't even want to have the option to respond to this dude so I don't have

his name or photo but I if I saw a picture of him I could I could remember who he was and yeah just the fact that he thought that that went well enough for a second date like I I want to know where this guy is. Yeah, no. And like, what does that entail? Like, you go pick up popcorn and then, like, go eat it in the studio. Like, do I buy 100 movie tickets for him and his entire Senate family? Do you buy? Do you buy 100 Chipotle burritos this time and just up to Annie a little bit? No, I don't. I would, I literally would be in debt at that point. I had no money. I was like, I barely made it like buying this man's tacos. And what sucked was instead of saying no, I knew I was just paid the day before. So, and he didn't know that. I could have been like, sorry, I can't afford that. I don't have $150 in my bank account, but I had like $175, unfortunately. So he wiped it out.

Yeah. So anyways, that's how I got here. Okay. So for all of our listeners, please check out her video that made her blow up on TikTok. TikTok. It is so good. But Elise, before we met, you were obsessed with The Bachelor. You did your own funny recaps.

They're incredible. And as somebody who actually lived it, hit even harder for us. So give us the background of how you got started in the bachelor world. Was it something that you and your husband just always watched together? Like, how did you join us? I would have been following The Bachelor since literally season one. And like my brothers would drink red wine and eat chocolate and we would like watch the show. Like my brothers got me into this show. And every single episode since all the paradise, everything. And so when I got married and met Jonas, His first season was Ari.

That was, so we were introduced literally to you together. We go with you because it's day one. I knew I felt the connection with you guys. Isn't that crazy? Like the whole thing and I remember we had to go to the gym to blow off our anger because of the like unedited scene with you. Yeah, that whole like thing. we were like so angry

it was like 11 o'clock at night by the time we finished washing that and we went to our gym to like walk on the treadmill because we ran in a little apartment and like didn't have access to say it. And we were so mad for you and we're like, this is bullshit. And like, oh my gosh.

So we've, I've been following it for ever and I'm obsessed and so yeah. Oh my gosh. We'll give Jonas an extra big hug for me next time because that makes me so happy. I will, I will. I want to ask you more about bachelor and because you are part

of Bachelor nation. I'm just going to say what please answer this correctly who has been your favorite lead since you've been watching for the beginning um I think Becca I was just going to say I'm winking at you Becky goes answer this correctly okay besides me I know you have to say it's because we're friends but besides me give us a few bachelor bachelor bachelor I was going to say genuinely you are like top three but you actually are and I wouldn't I'm not just saying that but to you and okay I know, I know that some people have certain opinions about like Nick, but I genuinely did enjoy watching him as the lead both times.

He was both time. He was on it twice, right? Well, he was on, no, no, no. So he was on Batchar at twice. Oh, and then was the lead. And then when on Paradise, and then was, yes, and then was the lead. Yes. Yeah.

So I actually enjoyed watching his, who else? I the first I mean the first one was like incredible the first season ever bachelor yeah and then um Jason that heartbreak of him like leaning over the rail crying that cry is so iconic like oh my gosh let's see I liked rachel's a lot um I loved meeting grocery store Joe so much and it like makes me so like happy to know that like y'all are so happy and I'm just like oh my gosh Isn't weird, by the way, that like, because, Becca, you never even really dated. No, I talked to him for 10 minutes and then he went home. You were like, bye, see ya.

I don't, no, thank you. I knew he had better things and sore in his future. You felt it. You felt it in your heart. I knew it. Yeah. So those are some of my things. And I know I'm blanking now that I'm under pressure and answering the question.

But I think it's so cool that each season is so different. Like, it's the same format. But really, like, once quarantine hit too, it really, it really changed the format of everything and allowed people to realize, like, there are other ways that it can work out, like with Colton, not leaving and engaged, like, all of that. Like, a lot of that kind of changed how it worked. And so now people feel like it's more of a two-way street. Like, it's more of a choice on both parties, like to say, like, I'm in this, you know? Like, it doesn't feel like, okay, if this person picks me, we have to get engaged and

leave a happy couple. Like, it just, it feels more, um, what's the word, like? Like, too-y-street. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's been really interesting to watch that unfold in these last few seasons. And it's been really fun to watch. Well, oh, sorry, Serening. You had a question. No, you're good. I was just going to say for Clayton's season then, I mean, I want to know all your thoughts, but who would you like to see as The Bachelorette or who are like, even if it's not from Clayton Seasons or anyone from the past that you're like, oh my gosh, I would just love to see this person be the lead. Um, okay, so definitely not Sheenay. And I'm so many questions. No. And I need to know really quick before I answer that question.

Is that real? Like, what part? All of it was her. Like, yes, it's real, right? She's not being edited in that way. No, I mean, like, everything that we say that comes out of our mouths is us. Like, there are times where you'll have like the team kind of helping direct conversations between people, but, like, everything we say and do is us.

Yeah, no one can make you say anything. But I think, like, who I would want to see. I don't know, like, obviously, who make it to the end, but it's like, what's her name? I have a cheat sheet with me right now, and I, and I'm so bad at names. It's where is she, where is she? She's the most amazing eyebrows. We can help. And she's, oh, Rachel.

I really like Rachel. She's one of my favorites. And I don't know if, like, she ends up being involved in drama later, but she's my favorite right now. Um, and then I, oh, Mara, is that her name? I don't like Mara. I just found out I don't like her. Mara, she's like, I'm just keeping at 100.

And I was like, I don't think you know what that means, my friend. I think that my definition of 100 and your definition of 100 is not the same 100. Like I, oh, that just means 100. Mary is keeping it like a solid 64. Like that is not what I would equate to 100. 9 plus 1 equals 50. And I'm like, I don't think that we went to the same math. I close my mind that someone can tell the lead like this girl is too young to get married.

It's like there's one thing for someone to say like I feel too young to get married and relaying that information. But then to just like assume something of somebody because of their age or the five minutes that you've seen the lead and that person together, like you're not allowed to tell somebody like what you see and how that will play out long term. Like that blows my mind when people waste their time that's so precious talking about other people like never works out for them and they just do it every time you said it best you said in your take dog you're like it's prison rules out here keep your head down and other people's name and out of your mouth and no joke that is it that is it if anyone is going on the show that is the one thing you should take away from this

podcast it's just don't talk about that whole situation I could get so fired up about because I'm 23 obviously so I really it just hit close to home and obviously like it was things that I had heard before too, especially from the general public. But like, believe it or not, some people don't get engaged at the end of it. Some people get engaged and don't get married for five plus years. And some people are just 23 and are ready for an engagement. And just because you aren't ready or you, sorry, you weren't ready at 23 doesn't mean that they're not.

Oh, it makes you so bad. And some people get engaged way too many times and it doesn't work out. So you just never know. You never know. It's like roulette. you just you hope for the best and see where it goes and like yeah it's it's crazy to me like i got engaged at i think 22 married at 23 and like for me because that's my experience it blows me away when people are like she's not ready and i'm just like just you just stop being so insecure about

your connection with him and if you don't like it just be better like just oh my gosh i i would have loved okay i'm just going to put this out there two things number one alice we might have to see you in paradise doing a little bartending action with Wells at some point you would be gold you'd be so good for anyone to go to for advice or just like comedic relief but i also have to say in last night's episode they have a whole uh therapy group day it's like couples counseling and instead of that counselor i would have loved to see you in the middle of this with clayton and the women because that would have been tv gold i i'm not going to lie to you every time i post your recap i'm just hoping to god somebody will reach out to me and be like,

hey, would you like to be a part of a group date in some way? Because I'm like, I'm like about ready to just keep a running notes of like, like, okay, these are my ideas if I were to be on a group date of what I would do, what I can facilitate. I will bartend. I will like lead a group therapy session. I will help you like wrap Christmas presents for your grandma and give you advice on like marriage. Like I don't care what it is.

Like I just, I want somebody to call me in so bad so I can like see the experience. At least you came to the right place. Fun fact, Wells is my brother's doppelganger. Like, I have sent so many photos of Wells to my brother and then, like, y'all are literal twins. And so bartending, well, yeah, I'll send you a photo of him after the fact. Oh, my God, we could do, like, we could do a thing where you, we set your brother up in, like, the whole bartending get up, like, behind the bar. People would not know the difference.

Well, and then the cast can walk down and, like, order a drink and just see if anyone even recognizes that it's not actually Wells. It's the curly hair, everything. It's like, they have the same, like, eyes. like the way that they like laugh at things i'm like you guys are literally the same so when i see wells i think that's why my heart gets so like oh he's my family like a lot of you guys feel that way i feel like you know like when you're saying when you meet somebody for the first time you're like i think this person's going to be in my life for a long time everybody has met like you guys like people from the batch world like it feels like you're meeting family and that could be because

i'm a creep and i know more about you than i should but i think more than that it's like i feel like it takes a special person to put themselves out there on national television and be so open and vulnerable with their lives and like let people into that like their world like that I don't know it when you meet somebody like that you that in me connects with that and you and it feels like it's family and so side note as a just watcher like I want to thank you guys so much for being so vulnerable and allowing people to see parts of your life that are messy but also like really amazing and like the best thing that's ever happened to you and also like the worst thing that's ever happened to you all at once. And so I really appreciate the fact that you guys, even if you are afraid to do it,

you do it anyways, because one, it makes great entertainment, but two, it allows people to grow with you. Like, I've learned so much about myself and our relationship with, you know, me and my husband and my family dynamic just because of watching you guys be open. So I just want to think. Oh, Elise. Oh, I'm really touched by that. That's so sweet. Well, thank you. Well, and same for you, too. I know, you know, social media is so prevalent these days and you share so much. And obviously, people can pick and choose what they want to share personally. But you've always been so open and vulnerable, even like not only in your funny videos, but like in some of your songwriting and singing as well. So thank you. I mean, at the end of this, we'll have everyone, you know, know where to go

to find you. But please check Lisa out. Like her videos are incredible. Some are funny. Some are touching. Some are just like badass. They're so good. We'll get into all that. But I need to ask you since you've been watching the show since the beginning overall if you could have if Jonas would allow you to have one hall pass who would it be in bachelor nation oh no oh my gosh oh i have to think wait okay i've forgotten every single person i've ever seen in my entire life now joe and i'll let you think for a second joe and i were just talking about this because a girlfriend of mine her hall pass and she's She's in, like, a very happy community relationship, but jokingly, her hall pass was Tyler Cameron.

So when I was gone for so long on Matt's season, her boyfriend started to be like, have you, have you heard back from Serena yet? Have you heard from Serena yet? Because she's like, this is getting too close for comfort. Like, this was not the plan. Serena's hitting, Matt, my best friend is with Tyler. Okay, I have my answer. I have my answer.

Okay. Oh, I feel bad now because he's like happy. Ben Higgins. I'm sorry. Okay, I'm going to leave now. Ben is such a great guy. He is happily married, but, you know, he's so sweet. I think, like, I just, it's, it's like, you meet, like, you see people like that it just seem like they are who they are on camera and off camera.

And that's what you're like, that's what's so attractive to me. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, you just seem like a teddy bear. Yeah, anyways, that and, and I'll leave it. No, I'm going to leave. No, no, I need to know now. I need to know. No, I can't.

You have to. You have to. No, I can't, though. You can. I'm sorry. It's Joe. Nice. I love that.

Because he's just got such a sweet smile. Like, his whole face is his smile. And I'm like, which is so nice. I'm going to tell him then he's going to be so amped. It's going to make his whole week. I'm never going to hear the end of it. I'm going to have to block this entire episode from Thomas because he's going to be heartbroken Elise.

I thought, I don't know if Thomas could hear me. And if I thought Thomas could hear me, I think I'd light on fire. So he was automatically excluded from this conversation. That was never going to come out of my mouth. He's slowly, he's weeping in the corner right now. I feel like we could talk about The Bachelor with you for hours. This has been so fun. But let's get more into, like, you overall and your TikTok rise to fame, if you will, if you will.

What's your creative process when you make these? Do you just watch an episode and, you know, like find a funny bit and you're like, that's it? Like, what all goes into this? Oh, my gosh, way more than you would think. Well, maybe not more than you. You probably know it's more work than it looks. But so what I do is I have to watch the episode like three times, which they just keep getting longer.

I don't know who's editing these, but they go for, they went from like 45 minutes and now they're like seven hours. I'm like, this takes so much time. So, and I love it, though. I want it all. I want them to be seven hours. So I watch them a few times. And then I will make notes of like, I have like a whole spreadsheet of the dates and what the

date is and then notes from them that I'm like, yeah, this is really cool. I like to talk about that. And then I like have to like edit them so that they fit on the phone. And then I have to go into the TikTok app and record them on green screen. Then I have to record my screen because I have to get them all to edit the episode later. So I like make a max it out at three minutes. Then I have to go back into my phone. I'm so recording. Oh, look at Elise's face when she hears of Jones. Do you want to say hi to Elise? Yeah, what are up? Here, take a head,

go on this thing. I might as well. Hey, Louise, what's up? How's it going, Joe? I'm good. How are you? I'm so good. I'm just here in Nebraska, and that's where I am. Why?

I'm not, I'm just, it's warm here. That's why my face is good. Look at Joe's face. The smile just lights up until your face. Yeah, well, you sure is how we're thinking that night one, Becca. So. Yeah, that's how. how could you look at those dimples

Becca? It's because you guys I have this weird six sense I knew something better was coming in the future okay and Joe and I just needed to stir shit up on the beach and paradise together that's why that's true that's true that's true grocery store Joe I have one question for you what is your favorite thing about Serena

oh you can get more than one if you want it's okay if you want yeah you can do top 17 you know what wow put me on the spot probably just yeah her giggle her laugh her laugh always puts me in a good mood

no matter how stressed out I am when I hear her laugh I feel so nice oh that's a good man I love that thank you I'm gonna record her giggle and have you make it your ringtone that's a good one

I don't want to be played out okay I don't want other people falling in love with her just Joe I do want to ask a question and we probably should have started the podcast with this question but I'm sure Becca already knows the answer. Can you tell us, me, our listeners, how did you get into TikTok? Like, how did this

journey begin for you? Because like, I'm assuming you didn't go to like TikTok college and then graduate and then start your career. No, no, no, no, no, no. I went to TikTok and I started, I went to TikTok University. Sorry. I started posting on TikTok because I was awake really early because I had a new baby. And so I just started waking up at four because I was like trying to get alone time as a mom before August woke up. And when I was awake, I would think of like funny things to say that I thought were really funny at least. And so I would just hit record and as I'm like making my iced coffee in the morning. And then that was it. And nothing was seen more than like a thousand times, right? Like it by an accident by people. And it wasn't until I August had his first

word and I posted that that people started coming to my account. That was like the first big video, it was August saying mama, which I'm now realizing was just gibberish, but it was cute. And so then after that, I've started gaining followers steadily, but like until the taco video, that's when it just like, it ran away from me. I was like, I don't control this at all anymore. It's, it is the world now to perceive and experience. And so, yeah, it just kind of happened by accident. And I just realized I really love it. And people love watching me tell stories and people love the way that I process information and spit it back.

And like I feel like people just kind of are looking to me now to kind of represent like just the mental health space, the ADHD thing, like the mom thing, the like Nebraska thing, like comedians. Like it's like it literally I just feel like I get to have conversations with people in literally every walk of life and every like career and every age group and like I get to have conversations like this where it's like I seemingly before all this like was a nobody in comparison to like select. And then now I'm just having conversations and I get to just, oh, yeah, it's just so encouraging to me that people want to hear what I'm saying. It's just, it's wild. Well, I think, like, my take on your account, what's so amazing about it is you just show so many different facets of your personality. Like, you're a comedian, you're a storyteller, you are relatable, you are a mom, you're a wife, and you're a bachelor fan, and you just show all of that. so people just see this like really holistic image of like who you are which is a really scary and hard thing to do I think on the internet to like share all these different facets of yourself and like I think you know Beck and I can relate to the like going from you know total being totally

anonymous to being totally public and it's kind of a crazy jump but you know I think you've evolved really like beautifully I don't know if that's a weird thing to say about TikTok yeah I can't I have a question. What would you give yourself, like a piece of advice, would you give yourself looking back when you were just starting to become like famous, famous? Like what would you encourage yourself with? I had kind of, well, I'm still kind of in year one. So like that might be a better question for Becca to answer. And I also, she just didn't have a normal transition because when my season was airing, I was in Ontario in full lockdown. Basically, I didn't get out of lockdown from the pandemic fully until I came back from paradise. So it got, it hit me like really, really hard all at once where like I had no gradual growth. But I think just, um, don't look at everything and just focus on what makes you happy and what you're passionate about and the people in your life and their opinions because that's really what matters. Yeah. And I think just to add on to that, I would say like, I mean, I've been now like in this world of bachelor nation since being. basically 2017 and you know for a while it was just such a change in my life like I went you know as

serena said like anonymous to blowing up basically overnight and and I think people feed so much into being a certain way on social media looking a certain way you know having a certain ascetic and like for me personally just over time I've had to kind of just grow into myself and post like what I want and what makes me happy. And I didn't, and I really try hard now, especially to just not care about like engagement and numbers and just to do it for me. And that's something that I didn't know right away. Like, you know, when you get kind of into this world, you have so many people and agents

and managers and brands coming at you being like, you know, what are your numbers? What's your engagement? What's this? What's that? Here's what we can throw at you for that. And I had no idea about any of that. And so I really try to like not focus on that and care about that and just like post what makes me happy. If that's food or if that's my dogs or if that's my relationship or whatever it might be,

I'm not I'm not trying to do it to gain followers and boost engagement. It's just more for me. And I know that's not for everyone. That's just for me personally, but just to not get caught up in the numbers of things. And that's what I want to say to you, Elise, is like when Serena says your TikTok and your Instagram and your social. media just platform as a whole is so relatable you truly i will say this like you keep it so real in every facet whether it's funny whether it's regarding mental health whether it's serious whether it's just being vulnerable in sharing your songwriting and singing like you are just you on

any given day you have your good days and your bad days and that's why i personally love following you and supporting you and i think that's probably like why a huge fan base loves watching you as well is because you're just going to be you. And I think in this world and this day and age, that's not as common as we think. And it's such a beautiful thing. So I want to thank you. And you also are a huge advocate for just women and just building each other up

and sharing kindness in our actions and our words. And I think that is so incredibly important. And you're just, again, for all of our listeners, like, please check out her page because she just is so well-rounded and has so many incredible things to share. that we could all take a page from. All right, well, I'm crying, so that's really good. I think that growing up, I really just was so desperate and hungry for a space that I felt

like I was allowed to figure out who I was and be myself. And I feel like I grew up in the era of Instagram just getting big, Facebook just getting big, and it was like that super polished, like life, like highlight reel of your life. And I felt like there was no space to make mistakes. There was no space to have, like, an opportunity to grow up. in front of other people and get it wrong and like I genuinely from the bottom of my heart just want to cultivate like this community which sounds so cliche of people that like have their permission to just be themselves and nothing else and like also change in it I think that when

you get famous then people you're like time stamped as this person and you are never allowed to change your mind and like if you're famous long enough and in a public eye like 10 years from now you will be a different person than you were when everyone found out your name for the first time and like I just want to be so transparent with the fact that like we're human we can grow we can also make a video and have our hair be in a million different directions and define literal gravity and then like still like be funny and relatable and like make a friend and so yeah thank you so much that's all I ever have wanted to do on my videos to the fact that that translates just makes my heart so happy oh oh I'm getting chills again this is then

I have to say like one of my not just because you're you and incredible to blow my friend, but like one of my favorite interviews I've done so far. It's just been so real and so fun and it's not all only bachelor focus, but everything else. All right. I know you are a very busy woman. You have a husband and your career and TikToks to make and your baby, but let's get into a quick little game. And we know you're not available since you are married with the child and all. But just for this game, we're going to pretend that this is Elisa's. season of The Bachelorette. So we're going to do like a little

rapid-fire question. The season of The Bachelor. So she is pretending to be a contestant on The Bachelor. Oh, okay, okay. Got it. Sorry. Okay. Good catch. Okay.

So but... Your husband can be The Bachelor in this scenario if you would like. I love it. Great. Okay, great. So yeah, we're going to pretend. Wait, should we pretend Jonas is the Bachelor? Or no.

We're just going to pretend the Bachelor. Yeah. The Bachelor is going to be a Bachelor and just like how you would interact with him so great um it's going to be rapid fire we'll just ask you a question you just go so okay first things first alice you're all dressed up you get out of the limo to meet the bachelor what's your big reveal are you going to be wearing a costume driving up in a tractor etc the world is your oyster the budget is also your oyster okay i'm going to be wearing jeans and um some type of tennis shoes i'm not about to stand in heels all night i don't i don't have the knees

that and the lower back. And I will be singing a song. So I'll have my guitar and I will have written a song on the spot, like on the limo drive over because if I think about it too long, then I will lose my mind. So I'll just have written a song and walked up to him and like been funny, not like trying to be like serious about it. Like really funny. And that will be my, that will be my entrance.

I love that. Perfect. We got to recreate this too. Yeah. Someone's going to steal this idea. You're going to have to see this on the next season of the match. Oh, I can't wait. I hope so.

well our next question was going to be what would your dress look like but we already have heard denim and tennis shoes so i'm going to skip that one yes you finally get to talk to the bachelor but another woman interrupts you what would your response be um that's okay thanks for asking that's okay no thank you thank you maybe leader um okay rolls are reversed now so what if you haven't had time to talk to the bachelor yet are you going to be interrupting another woman um yeah definitely i will not be the jerk that like is just going in two minutes into somebody talking i like my here's my thing i am not going to like fight somebody to like want me so i i would be the person that like sends myself home because i'm like no i have no room to just like fight for somebody and i know that like that comes later but like first night i'd be like nah dude if you don't want to like if i didn't catch your eye you have like 30 people here so

i'm not gonna like waste my time running after you so i would like interrupt but i wouldn't really like do it too too much and i wouldn't try that hard you know what i mean i just if he didn't see me and be like wow she's stunning i did that's okay someone else is gonna think i'm stunning thank you you know what i could see you doing i could see you because you're so sweet that like but like in a how do i always it's like in a sassy sort of way though so i could see you like giving the other girl enough time, but then coming up with like a plate of food and just sitting down and being like,

oh, you guys wants them and like starting it off that way is like this thruple and then you know and then the other one skedaddles. Yeah, like I'm not asking you to leave. I'm just going to join. Can I just sit here while you guys talk? Like I just have some food and everyone has to eat anyways. So I might as well share my wings with you.

Yeah, that's like something I would definitely. I would love that. And I would love to see if the other girl was just like, okay, fine, I'm game. Like I'm going to stay here too. I want to win you too. Who is going to leave first? I'm going to use that, actually.

I really like that. Share one of my 100 Taco Bell, Harchel tacos. Thank you. Hey, guys, I had to get one of the producers go get me 100 tacos. Would you want one? They're going to be soggy in about 30 seconds anyways. So if you don't want to eat one, then I'll just eat them myself, I guess. But that's why I wore jeans tonight.

Thank you. All right. So I would give you the first impression, girls. I'm just saying. Yes. This is now your one-on-one date. What would be your? biggest fear in terms of like activity like do you hate horses do you not want to go skydiving swimming

with sharks what's the absolute never i'm going to send myself home before i do this date oh i mean it's anything heights wise and any literally anything too high or too low so underwater no anything in space sky no just keep me on the ground like if you will i will see a level see no yeah normal sea level and like that's good like it's good i'll ride a horse i'll drive a car i'll walk okay just please don't push me out of a plane in the sky and don't make me like look at things that live in the ocean and don't want to see people they live in the ocean for a reason these don't make me look at it okay so on that note then for group date would you rather do a physical activity or a performance activity oh performance i can't handle any type of physical like unless

it's like not i don't want to fight anyone i don't want to do any of those like uh like pillow fights with like the feathers that go everywhere i don't want to do like wrestlingania I would I want to I can roast somebody I can sing a song I can like come up with things on a spot I just I don't want to like fight anyone oh my god no physical altercation yeah I got punched in the face on my season on one of those days yeah I'm right there with you no and I don't I don't know no thank you no no but I'll go on a hike I'll do that all like on the ground not on the moon on the ground I can even handle a little hill I'm like I'm good if I can't fall off the side of this mountain to my death I'm like I'm good

But if it's like, I feel like I'm going to, no, no, thank you. I give it. All righty, you hear another woman talking about her boyfriend back home. Are you telling The Bachelor? Absolutely not. That is her business. Who knows? He might be into open relationships.

I don't know. I can ask him, but I'm not going to tell him about her boyfriend. No. I'll let her use my phone to call her boohing back home, my contraband phone. I don't care. I'm not going to tell the lead. It's all good. Yeah, prison rules.

Prison rules. Keep her name out of my mouth. Yeah. Would you be open to calling another woman out if she's doing something rude? Oh, yeah. I'm a big fan of like your consequence, your choice. So like if it just affects you, if you're being rude and it's just you in a room, fine. But when it affects me and like the health of the house, yeah, I'm going to say something.

But if it doesn't affect me, like, no, you keep going to be in your bad self. I can not. think like if you're gonna confront like if there's someone stirring up shit don't reach the lead like just take it right to that like that's a grown-ass woman you can handle it yourself thank you I do not understand I'm like do you know how much drama would be resolved by people just talking like that's pretty much a universal thing like how much trauma has been resolved that gets brought up because oh my gosh it kills me like people like she's not doing her dishes it's like dude just no oh my gosh yes just talk about it anyways um all right oh wait sir me you got the last one this is our last

one so unfortunately your time on the bachelor has come to an end are you crying in your final interview in the low no no you say it now i know i know i know i have the luxury of not actually experiencing that and it's hypothetical i okay so one i am a cryer the only thing that i am worse at and like and like I just I will stone cold ice someone out if someone has hurt me I will give them nothing like I will go to like the darkest place in my brain to not give them what they are like wanting which is me to be sad and I say that like not having experienced it but it's I will shut off I will become a robot and then when everyone walks away I will lose it for like 17 days And, but then you don't know.

I feel like by the time you get sent home, if you make it long enough, you have been around the cameras and all of that long enough to where you kind of are desensitized to it. I'm sure, like, if you've been to like the last few weeks, it's like these cameras have been in your face the whole time. So crying, crying would feel less like, it'd be, it just feel like less invasive, like you're just talking to a friend, right? Is that kind of how it would feel?

So totally. This has been such an absolute blast. Oh my gosh. Please come back anytime we got to get into the mansion. we got to get you involved somehow. I know you're very busy, but we have to have more of you. I will take it. Thank you so much for the opportunity.

It was so good to see you. It was so nice finally meeting you after Becca's been raving about you for weeks. Now we can be friends too. We are not friends. Yes, I'm so happy. Elise, thank you so much. You are the best. Yay.

Okay. I'll talk to you guys later. Oh my gosh. I just absolutely love her. Is she not just such a gem? I'm obsessed with her. She's so funny. she's such a gem i want her to come back and do like an actual full episode recap with us one day

oh 1 000 percent she will be back i'm going to find give me two seconds i want to find her i should have had her plug her own instagram and tic talk but for any of our viewers out there who want to check her out it is alice it's e l y s c underscore meyers and that's m yr s that's her Instagram, Elise underscore Myers, and then her TikTok is... I have it up. It's Elise Myers, just her full name, no underscore, so at E-L-Y-S-E-M-Y-E-R-S. And definitely follow her on there. I went down a deep, dark, grab a hole of her TikTok and was laughing hysterically. Yeah. You never know what you're going to get with her, and that's why she's so fun to follow. But even better in person, I cannot think Elise,

enough for joining in. And I can't wait to see more of her. Okay, Serena, before we wrap this episode, really quick, we have to go through, of course, our rose and our thorn of the week. So I'm just going to keep it simple. My rose were, I'm going to say Susie's shoes when she came back from that date, because they were incredible. And then my thorn is going to be how many times the women say the word like. I'm going to leave it at that. Yeah, they do say it a lot this season.

Okay, my rose is going to be getting to watch Susie's shopping spree. The part two where she got to try on all those designer gowns. I thought that was so cool. I've also been to Vienna before actually. So the

date that they had, I've actually been to that castle. So getting to see like all the spots. I was just like, oh, I'm dying. to go back to Europe. And then my thorn is going to be Sarah's fake tears. I'm sick of the fake tears. Nothing irks me more. We've seen them multiple times this season. And yeah, that would be my thorn. That's a good one. All right, everybody. We're going to leave it at that until next week. Again, huge thank you to Elise for joining us. You were such an absolute pleasure to have. And Serena, thank you again. And an even bigger thank you to all of our bachelor happy hour listeners.

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