Bachelor Happy Hour - Uninvited Wedding Guests and Dating Taken Men – Susan & Kathy Answer | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Kathy and Susan are diving into some of your listener write-ins today on “Golden Hour.” From uninvited wedding guests to having babies later in life, you guys asked, and Kathy and Susan are answering! The Golden women give some stellar advice and reveal more about their own experiences. Tune in to hear all this and more, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode. Are you looking for some Golden advice? Head to BachelorNation.com/GoldenHour to submit your questions to Kathy and Susan.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We had my darling little, Rachel from Joey's season of The Bachelor on the pod, and she was amazing. That girl is older than her years. But before we get started, how about last week? I'm still thinking about being at IHeart Radio Music Awards. Walking the gold carpet. Woo-hoo. It was amazing.

Was it not amazing? And I think I learned how to say her name. Yeah? No, I didn't. It's Sza. Siza. Siza. Siza.

I love you. I just couldn't say it. The best part, though, you know, we should have been better prepared. Well, like we knew some of the musical guests. We grew up with Cher and Green Day. But when they looked at us and asked us what we were wearing, Susan and I looked at each other and went, fringe. Fringe! Because we both had fringe on our dresses.

We had no idea what we were wearing. We just can't get it out of our heads. We really had a good time and can't wait to do it again. But let's talk about Rachel. She was awesome. Unbelievable. I mean, that girl is beautiful, the relationship with her family, amazing. Well-spoken, and she was homeschooled, and that was quite interesting.

I know. I was in education. I really wanted to dig into that one some more. Traveling nurse. She's got it going on. And she is ready to find love for sure. And everybody out there that loves Rachel, let her know. She put up with a lot of bad, mean people.

emails. Just be nice. Just be kind. And if you're a nice guy out there, reach out to Rachel because she absolutely deserves it. But today, yay, Susan, we have some really great fan questions. I can't even wait to get into them. And I want to remind everyone, if you have questions for Susan and me, send them in, go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Send us your comments, your thoughts, your questions. We are not short of answers. please do it. But first, let's get started with today's question of the day. What's one thing you're grateful for in your romantic life right now? Hmm. I don't really have a romantic life, but I am grateful to be open and ready for one. I got to say, you and are going to agree on that one.

When I read that, I thought, I'm grateful. I'm grateful I'm standing up straight and breathing because I sure don't have a romantic life right now. What do you think? Should we read the questions from? We've finally got some. I'm so excited. Are you so excited about the fan questions? All right, here we go.

Courtney from California wrote this. Hi, Kathy and Susan. Good start. My mom and I have, oh, this one, I have to say, okay, this hits home with me. Okay, my mom and I have struggled to have a good relationship for as long as I can remember. We are very different. and she is extremely critical of me and my choices in life. I am 30 years old and will be getting married in October.

My fiancé and I made the decision together not to invite her. The only time she met him, she was rude and very dismissive of him. My mom and I haven't spoken in over a year, and I feel like she will bring a needed drama to our happy day. However, now I'm having some second thoughts. Do you think I will regret not having her there? Ouch. I don't want her to ruin her day, but it is her mother.

And I started out by saying that, you know, that this hit home close to home because, you know, my daughter and I, when she was in high school, it was tough. Now that she's had a baby, I'm a genius. They realize later. Exactly. But this is a little bit different. I think that daughters and moms go through tough times, but I have to say, Courtney, I think you would really regret it. Well, in some cases, it's not just a matter of mom being critical on her, having attitude or whatever. There's some really serious mistakes that parents make with their children.

We don't know the depth of this one. And if it's just something superficial that she gets on your nerves and she's going to say, I wouldn't have chosen that, then, yes, you may regret it. Here's an idea. What, Courtney, how about if you sit down? We don't know, we only know the details here, right? But Courtney, I would suggest that you sit down with your mom and really have a heart to heart with her. You don't always have to agree, but, you know, you could sort of talk about your expectations,

yours and your fiancé's expectations for the day and what would be acceptable to you. And maybe give her the option, say, it is hard. her wedding. She wants to be happy on that day. And I agree with you. I do. Sit down and have that or they haven't spoken in over a year. That's, that's not good. Maybe this marriage, Susan, maybe this wedding will bring them back together. I like it. I wish you luck with that. Yeah, we wish you. And by the way, congratulations. Oh, and I can marry you in October. Just call me. Always plugging. And by the way, she married my son and his fiancee and did a great job. So if you need a wedding efficient, you should reach out. You know, it's funny when I look back at my mom, I mean, yeah, I hated things that she would tell me I couldn't do or shouldn't do or shouldn't wear.

But our relationship was great. So for me, it's really hard to give her advice for that. I guess for me, that's another reason it hits close to home. You know, my parents were divorced when I was young and I really wasn't that close to my mother. I can honestly say I would go a year at a time without speaking to her. My dad married when I was six years old, married the most wonderful woman who I sort of considered my mother. And so I understand mother by birth. It's not always the person you think of as that mom person in your life.

Did your birth mother come to your wedding cat? Okay, this is a true story. Okay. Let's hear it. This is what I love about Susan. She reads my mind. at my wedding my father and my stepmom who i consider my mother who passed away in september but great woman she acted as my mother the wedding invitations read mr and mrs richard m block they

did not have my mother's name uh at my wedding my mother also could be very uh do some bizarre things and i also was very worried at my wedding my mother did come up to me at the reception and asked me if I was going to wear my wedding dress again. And since my mother was married four times, I chuckled at that. Oh, my. And I said, I certainly hope not, Mom. I hope this is one and done. At your wedding, she said, are you going to wear that again?

Well, that's not the punchline. When I said no, she reached down and ripped a piece of lace off to take home as a souvenir. Oh, my. So I get it, Courtney. Okay, maybe don't invite her, Courtney. Wow, I'm sorry. Like I said, have the conversation first and then make your best. bet so there's all kinds of moms out there are yep be grateful and maybe some of them do the best that

they can yeah you know they don't but corny i did invite her i did invite her and i will admit i was a little bit nervous but other than going home with a torn dress Courtney she ripped her dress but susan yeah i was married almost 46 years ago so i mean 46 years ago so i didn't need it again all right let's move on to question number two okay let's see what this says anonymous from Texas says, I'm currently a junior in college and I have a huge crush on a guy that I met in class. We met at the beginning of the year

and since then we always sit next to each other and make jokes throughout all of the lectures. All right, that's called flirting. That the professor loves them. He currently has a girlfriend. Ouch. Though he shared with me that they have a lot of relationships friendship problems, and they fight a lot.

He's been wanting to break up with her, but he says that he just hasn't found the right moment. He told me that his girlfriend will be out of town next weekend, and he invited me to go over to his place to hang out. Just the two of us, what should I do? He's so hot. Well, you know what? Red flag.

Red flag. He's hot, and he's a cheater. Yeah, no shit. Run, do not. I hate saying this. I'm from Texas, but anonymous from Texas. I don't care how good he looks in jeans. I don't care how good a cowboy hat he has.

I don't care. Cheater. You know what? He's telling you he has relationship problems because he's trying to win you over. You know, who knows if that's the truth. It's like dating a married man. They're always going to leave. Wait, have you dated a married man?

No, no, no, no. But I hear it all the time. You know, one person that I met in the mansion sharing that she was the mistress, you know, and they fell in love and they were together 20-some years, but I don't know that I could do that. I think, I think, I couldn't do it, first of all. I think you're setting up a bad precedent when you go over to his house.

If he really wanted a friend, he would have invited you out for coffee to chit-chat. But the fact that he invited you to go over to his place, by the way, while his girlfriend is out of town, it just. And when she comes back, you're the one that's, It's a secret. Yeah.

Like when we were talking to Rachel about open what they do today. Plural relationships. Yeah. It's like crazy. Yeah. No, I would say this does not smell right. And here's my advice to you. When a man shows you who they are the first time.

Believe them. Believe them. So I would say he may look hot, but he's freezing cold when it comes to relationship success. And don't do something that you're going to regret later. Yeah. In short, in short, say no. Run, do not walk to the nearest exit. I never envision being with a woman.

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and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Kathy, so we move on to the third question. Anonymous. Come on, people. That's okay. You don't have to say your name, just send it in.

It's still a good question. Anonymous from Florida sent us this. Okay. Hi, Susan and Kathy. Thanks for all that you do. I really love your podcast. Well, thank you so much, Anonymous from Florida. I'm not comfortable, including my real name for this.

I hope you understand. Not a problem. Not a problem. I am a 52-year-old woman. and I have been married for 28 years. My husband and I have two sons, ages 25 and 22. I know it sounds crazy, but recently I have been thinking of nothing except my desire to have another baby.

My husband had a vasectomy 20 years ago, and we never discussed having more children. But I just have this deep feeling or belief that we are meant to have another child. I don't even know if it's possible, but I know I'll never forgive myself if we don't try. I have no idea how to broach this subject with my husband. This will be the last thing he'd expect to hear from me.

Do you have any suggestions on how to bring this up? I'm still in shock that at 52 you want to have another child. I mean, I love that you love your babies. And I'm, what? You know what I think? Okay, just think when the baby's 20. Oh, here you go with the ages again. Age is just a number, Susan, remember?

It is, but being 72. That's not what I think this is about. I think maybe your children, a 25 and 22, you're going to get a grandchild soon. Maybe that's still not what I think this is right. Can I tell you? Hold one second. Just communicate.

Communicate. Talk to him because he might fly off the handle. Or he might say, let's know it. Miracles do happen. Go, Kathy. No, I'm not. You and I are on opposite sides of the page here. Okay, go ahead.

I think there's something going on in her marriage, something that is making her feel incomplete and unfulfilled. And what do we as women do? We, you know, we're caretakers. We love our children. Her sons are 25 and 22. They've probably recently, you know, moved out of the house. She's probably feeling something's missing in her relationship.

and and what does she want to do, bring another human being in because what do children do, they love us unconditionally. And then they leave us. So maybe this is a matter of emptiness syndrome that she's feeling? Yeah, I mean, again, we only know what we read in the question here. But when you ask if we have any suggestions on how to bring it up, I think I would do a little soul searching first. I would.

And what's really going on? What's really going on? But when you first said, I thought you. You were saying they're struggling in their relationship. Maybe they are. I don't know. No, I didn't read that part at all. She may not know it.

That's what I'm saying. There may be something else going on. But I agree with you, Susan. Communicate, communicate, communicate. So what about, you know, we're needed for so many years. And then when they start to get on their own, you're not needed as much. Although my kids still call me for something. But I love that.

But it is. It's true. You're needed for everything. And as they grow, little by little they're doing things on their own they don't need us as much well except to do their laundry and pay right for their food i will say i will say i we each have three children we each have two sons and one daughter we have a lot of similarities there um i will say when my when my youngest child turned seven um i thought oh am i done being a mom being a seven when my daughter

was seven. I was like, oh, I want another baby. I thought it for about, you know, 10 minutes. And I really saying goodbye to having young children, it's hard. It's hard. And I think, I think it's also the evolution of a marriage. So I look at my daughter, okay? She's got a, he'll be 13, my Julian will be 13. Isabella's going to be 12. And she has a three-year-old. And she has a three-year-old. old. And she's adored. She's loved. She's spoiled rotten because of the age difference. And I look at Britney now some days. And she's like, I'm so tired or mom. And she's 38 years old. She's still young. That's why you have children young. 38. Anonymous in Florida. She's 38, not 52. Just putting that out there.

And my very good girlfriend, Nicole, I hope you don't mind me saying your name. It's a shock. She's pregnant and she's 42 and she's freaking out over it but her kids are like this age 25 and 22 and she's doing it so it's not the end of the world yeah i think i think motherhood looks different don't you think looks different at different ages yes it does and so at 52 it would certainly look a lot different than it would um at 32 it's just it's just i don't think personally i could do it At 52? At 52 to me, I'm done with the everyday mommy. You know, they don't need me as bad. They're grown up and now I'm starting to have a life again because we give up our personal lives. I still maintain my hair career and stuff raising children and it was a lot. And we had

a lot more energy then. Well, wait a minute. Can I just say anonymous from Florida? I want you to think about this. If you have another child, I want you to think about the diapers. I want you to think about the cost of formula. And the college. And college and and tap lessons and ballet and carpool. And I want you to think about all those things. And then think about getting your nails done. Find that really beautiful dress that you saw in the store last week that you really want. Family vacations that you treat the boys. Yeah. Give it up. You're going to be changing diapers. You're not getting your hair done or your nails. I'm making, I'm joking, sort of. No, but really think about yourself for a minute. Put you first now and just wait for your grandchildren to come. And if there's something

going on in your marriage, try to rebuild that. Try to rebuild that, right? I hope there isn't. I really I didn't read that when you got that. Well, if that's the case, you know what, we're here for you. And if you have another question, please, we want to hear it. And either way, either way, whatever you decide, communicate with your husband, talk about it, and the right, the right decision will come to you. Absolutely. So as I said, we want to hear your question. So please write in and just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. You may even be featured on one of our podcast, especially if you leave like a voice message. We could air that. And we really do want to hear from you. We love getting these questions. All right. Okay, Susan, we have time for one more question.

All right. Ready? Ready? All right. Amy asks, Hi, ladies, loved the first few episodes, and I'm so excited to listen weekly. I'm in my late 40s, and my question is about hair color. Oh, boy, this one's going to be for you, Susan. Okay. You both look gorgeous as brunettes, but what's your secret? My aunt wears wigs. That's her trick.

I have always been a brunette, started coloring my hair about 10 years ago when gray's arrived, and in the past two years, I started transitioning to blonde because the maintenance. Yes, roots are a pain in the, you know what, and you know what, that's how we make money. But through the pandemic, I noticed a lot of people, they were afraid to color their own hair, which I do not recommend color your own hair. I've done it. I'll second that vote. It just ends up a mess after about six times.

So with that being said, my sister right now, she had to have surgery on her neck. They shaved the back of her head. She has maybe 90, 80 to 90 percent gray. And I've having her a brunette for years. So we kind of like the new gray thing. And she's like, how do I do this? I can't have three inches of white hair and four inches of dark hair. And that's exactly what I did.

I started foiling her, putting highlights, putting blonde. She gets more compliments. But here's what I am going to say. Once the hair that is dark is removed and cut off eventually, and it's only blonde and gray, it's a whole different look. Right now, my sister loves the little bit of dark pieces left in there, and there's a solution for that as well. When I foil her, I'll add some dark pieces and some blonde pieces, but she doesn't need the five-week touch-up for the grades. Okay. Does that help? Amy, I'm not a hairdresser. All I can say is I have been coloring my hair since I was about 39 and I don't want to be gray. Here's the issue that all women eventually come to.

Because my hair is dark brunette, thank you, Susan. By the way, this is the time for me to say, Susan cut my hair this length. So Kathy, when I met her, she had highlights. It was pretty. It was a little longer. and I just had a vision what I thought would look best on Kathy's face. She's got perfect cheek bones, and they're real, by the way. No cheek implants. No cheek implants. Shorten her length, make it really super thick straight, and go darker. And she has gotten so many compliments.

And so, and I love it, and I think, but that's where I was going to go with this. If you're comfortable, if you want to go gray or blonde or striped, whatever you're comfortable wearing. But Susan is absolutely right. Don't do it yourself. I mean, just don't. In my case, my hair is very dark brunette. I was a brunette as a child. And actually, my hair was very close to the color it is now as a child. You don't say, I had a vision, huh? Susan had a vision. St. Susan, St. Susan, had a vision. Well, guess what? Thank you so much for writing in. I'll answer any of your questions of both of us will, whether they're relationships, hair-related, or cheek implants. I mean, if they're hair-related, Susan's going to answer them.

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by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. But listen, before we go, I think we need to play a game because we love playing games. So we're going to play another round of Would You Rather? Are you in, Susan? I'm in. All right. I'm going to read them, and then we'll both pick which one we'd rather do. Got it?

Okay. All right, Susan. Would you rather date a man who has 12 children? or a man who doesn't have any children. I'm sorry. Can we pass on that one? Susan. 12 kids?

Susan, the answer is, no thank you. We'd never have a lone time. We'd always be visiting somebody between his and mine. No, that's a lot. Although, I forget who our guest was with men with no children. Is it a red flag? I think it was Nancy. I said no.

I don't think, listen, I'll date a man who doesn't have children. I won't date a man who hasn't been married. I did that once. It did not work out. All right. Would you rather show affection in public or private? Oh, I'm all about the PBAs. You're all over it.

If I like you, I'll hold your hand. I'll kiss you. I hug you. I'm not going to get nasty or anything. It would. Okay, but isn't the affection, I think for me, the affection in public is a little, looks a little different. Yes, it does.

And when you're home, I agree with that. Would you rather give up cursing forever or give up ice cream forever? I would give up ice cream. Oh, for me? I don't like ice cream. It's a no-brainer. I've given it up. Look at that, Catherine,

we're on the same page again. You know, one time, it was this year. This year was potato chips. Last year, two years in a row, I gave up, saying bad words, for Lent. And my deal was to myself.

Damn it. How did it go? So it was actually the F-bomb, and I don't do it at you, but it's just in my vocabulary. With that being said, I promised myself every time I said the F word, I would put a dollar and I would donate it to the church.

One year, it was $56. Wait, can I just tell you? Wait, can I just tell you? Yes. If you and Sandra from the Golden Bachelor put a dollar, you could build a church. All right. How about this one? Would you rather be married to someone who is vegetarian or lactose intolerant?

Oh, that's so easy for me. For me, I guess it would be. I'm a meat eater. I was just going to say, you're not giving up your burgers. And cheese, and I don't know that I'd marry that guy. No, I'd figure it out. Vegetarian for me. I love my veggies.

Would you rather your partner? Oh, give you a massage or a love note? What the hell is a love note? Give me the massage. I want it all. Susan. I want that hopeless romantic, leave me little love notes. That would just do it for me.

Great, you get the love note. I'll get the massage. I want some of that. I love to be rubbed, yes. All right. Would you rather wear sweatpants for the rest of your life or wear sparkles on every outfit? I'm really comfortable in sweatpants, I just have to say. I don't need sparkles.

I like playing dress up. Trust and believe me, that costs me the most in my life. All my money goes to fashion and shoes. Sparkles on every outfit? Not necessary. Sweatpants are a must have. Yeah, but you're going to wear sweatpants for the rest of. rest of your life? No, I'm not going to wear sparkles for the rest of my life. Okay, Susan's

walking around naked. Great. Let's move on. How about you, Missy? Talk to me. Are you a sweat? No, you don't do sweatpants. You do those tight things. Yeah, I don't do sweatpants. I do leggings. You ought to try them, Kath. No, you know why I don't? I learned a long time ago you wear what looks good on you. I have very long legs and they're thin. I'm wearing the leggings. Okay. Well, all you sweat pant makers out there. Send me some samples. I'm going to tell you,

what's the softas, Kathy? I've had some awesome sweatpants. I want the Spanx leggings. They're the best. Oh, no. The soft. Oh, yeah.

Great. All right. Would you rather be invisible or be able to read someone's mind? God. Oh, I don't want to be invisible ever. Well, no.

We don't mean like, I don't think I can. We don't mean like Casper, the ghost here. like invisible where you're sitting there watching what's going on. Oh, not B.C. Yeah. So they wouldn't say it like, I can't see you, but you're watching what I'm doing.

Would you like to read somebody's mind? I'm trying to read my own mind most of the time. I don't think I'd like reading somebody's mind. It would scare me. Can you read my mind? No. I'm thinking how lucky you are to be my friend. Okay.

I wouldn't mind. I always used the phrase, I'd like to be a fly on the wall. That's the invisible part. I'd like to be invisible. Yeah. And the way you like bugs, you'll be squashed in about 10 seconds. I didn't say I'd be a fly. All right.

Would you rather go on a beach vacation or explore a new city? No, I want a little of both. Oh, come on. Definitely the beach comes first. First. I like my toes in the sand, but I love seeing new places. You and I totally, I've nothing to add to that. When I went to Paris, I thought, first time I went to Paris.

Oh, excuse me, the first time. How many times you went to Paris? Three. So the first time I went, it was beautiful, it was all city. And the one thing I said on the way home was, I didn't get to relax. So the next time when I took my daughter, actually, we were in the south of France. I wish I could do a little bit about like you either start in the city and then go to the coast and chill. Wait, I got to tell you, my husband, when he was alive, we took our kids actually to Europe once.

and they were young teenagers, and literally he had a scheduled, like, you know, you had five minutes to see Notre Dame, move, let's go. Let's go next. Yeah, now we're running up the Eiffel Tower. It was like, I needed a vacation from that vacation. It's about being in the moment. You know, it's funny, my granddaughter, I promised her since the day she was born. And Bella, if you're out there listening to this, yes, Mimi is going to take you to Paris.

Oh, that'll be trip number four for those of you were accounting. Listen, she said it to me this. birthday, right? She became double digits now. Mimi, are we ever going? And I said, Bella, we are going, but I want you to write me a list of the things that you would like to experience and see in Paris. Oh, I can answer that right now. I said, okay, go. I want to see the eyeful power. I said, mm-hmm. She could do that in Vegas, by the way. I could do a lot cheaper. I can do, and I want to go, Mimi, it's like the biggest mall in the world. I said, well, it's really not a You can do that at, it was at Missouri, the Mall of America.

Forget it. Forget it. You're not going. You're not going. It's like city blocks long. I said, what about Notre Dame? She goes, that burned down. I go not all the way, honey.

And they've rebuilt it. Tell her watch the news. It's up and running. So much more. So I said, okay, honey, I'm going to start that envelope. And I have it to this minute. I put money in it every week and it's Bella's trip to Paris. I said, probably by the time you're 13, she goes,

oh, oh, like that is so far. Ever away. And she's 12? 11. You know, that's you that it's best right there. And then what do you do with the other grandchildren? You've got to make special something for all of them. Wait, can I just tell you?

Yeah. But I will tell you. But I went to private school. I didn't think that went through. You put the first one in private school? You got to do it all? Yeah. Rethink it.

I know. Okay. Oh, Kathy, let me ask you this one. Please, this is great guys. Way to hear this. Would you rather give up caffeine or alcohol forever? you know what susan i'm going to answer that question as soon as i have a sip of coffee and pour some tequila i would definitely give up alcohol i need my caffeine yeah absolutely i i actually i think you're going to be

surprised at my answer what do you think my answer if i had to give up one what do you think i do need your caffeine i know yeah you're right i could give up alcohol long before i could give up caffeine all right would you listen i'm just going to preface this last question here. I'm reading along with her, so she had the pause here. Yeah, because Susan, I'm going to tell you right now, you may not say both. Okay? You may not.

Would you rather get a foot rub or a shoulder massage from your partner? Only if he's good at it, though. Oh, geez. Now we're putting... The foot rub is important. Like, that foot massage is... I stood on my feet for 40 years.

So you take a foot massage? Absolutely. I would take a shoulder massage. Good. Good. That's great. So we won't have to waste time. Excuse me. We're not having the same partner. We're not sharing the same partner. So you know what? Forget it. Okay. However, I don't want DMs for all you've put crazy people out there. I'll take a DM from somebody who wants to give me a good shoulder massage if you have other fabulous traits. So I hope everybody's enjoying this as much as I am because I just have a great time sitting here going back and forth. If anyone's any question, this friendship is real.

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