Bachelor Happy Hour - Vows and Voyages | Golden Hour

Episode Date: August 1, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions! We kick things off by recapping this week’s episode of “Paradise.” Then, we begin our advice portion with the question of the day: What advice do you have for long-term couples who met really young and suddenly get the urge to explore? Next, we tackle your questions--are you allowed to bring up your bestie’s husband’s atrocious wedding vows? Can you ask your boyfriend to take better pictures of you without sounding like a diva? We end things with another Golden Spotlight, and today’s is all about ageism. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas.

You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members and two wars that was supposed to be done in 24 hours. Not to mention Epstein, we had to reach out to the homie Jamil Hill because she going to keep it a century. The American public is used to be. being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcasts on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.

Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling, true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics

and on the latest episode of Spolitics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly. Many of them are in fear of their political lives. We continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents and there's life after Congress. Make sure to listen to this episode of Politics on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us. are so excited to be back how are you doing today susan i'm doing fabulous at a house full yesterday i'm telling you you know you entertain more than anyone i know when i'm home yeah well this is true and when i'm home i just want to sit in front of the tv and watch netflix and needlepoint i don't know i don't know i want i'm getting ready to travel again do you want to travel some more i think i am actually yes i'm going to be traveling through september it's been a great summer although i hardly have to use the pool. I clean it. I actually got in it this weekend with my granddaughter. But today,

of course, we're going to be answering more of our fan questions and make sure you keep them coming because we love this. You know what to do? Just go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour and submit away because that's what we're here for. I mean, you've got to have questions. Susan and I have been traveling. We took cruises. Susan's had her Mr. Wonderful visiting her. You know, I'm off to Canada. First time, Kathy, in the United States. You know, come on, people. You must have questions or comments about this.

And since you do, we want you to send them all to us. It's very easy. You can either DM us on Instagram, but Bachelor Happy Hour, or you can go to bachelornation.com. Let's go. You can do it. Okay. Yes, we look forward to it.

Okay. Time to get into the episode. And we're going to start with the question of the day. what advice do you have to people that have been in a long-term relationship since they were very young and are starting to wonder if they need to explore? Can I tell you what the operative word in that question is? Relationship, because you know I was married out of the cradle. You're asking the wrong person because hers works.

You're asking the right person. I was married. My birthday is May 9th. and I was married May 19th, and I had my 20th birthday. So 10 days after I turned 20, I got married. And I was married for almost 46 years. So were there times in my life that I thought, oh, my God, I was so young to get married? Yes.

But I believed in my marriage and loved my husband. So, you know, I did not want. And you were very, very fortunate. A lot of relationships that start out and they think they're getting married after college. They made it through college. And a lot of times they don't. As they mature, they find their separate ways, unfortunately. You are very, very lucky.

Today's world, I don't think as many that start it very young make it. Yeah, I mean, I guess I agree with that. Sometimes it can be age. Sometimes it can be other circumstances. But I do think. But would your advice to somebody young? you know you're asked you and i've actually talked it's not funny that you and i that's how we know each other we've talked about so many of these these things when young people tell me that they're moving in

together to me and i know i'm going to sound old when they move in together theoretically they're sharing the bills they're sharing experiences they're not dating other people they're monogamous or they've agreed to not be monogamous, whatever it is, it's almost like a committed marriage or a committed relationship. No, it is. It is, right? Some people like to try before they take, I know, but don't you think it's just as hard to get out of that relationship as it is to get out of a marriage? I mean, probably yes, but I, a lot of people don't agree with people living together before they get married, then that's going back in time too. But I think it's a important that you see how they live while living together. Some things might be deal breakers.

I agree, but I think it's, I agree, Susan, but I guess what I'm asking you is I was married, so I can't answer this question. And you were married. I don't think you lived with anyone. But if you're living with someone, and let's just say you've lived with them for a year and a half, I think it would be almost as difficult to get your friends together and say, hey, guess what? Johnny and I are splitting up. It's like a breakup of a marriage. It's splitting up. Who gets the dog?

Yes, that's a big one too. But what they're asking them, do they need to explore? Are we going to advise people that have only been with one person to explore before committing? Yeah, I am. And you didn't?

I didn't. Why do you feel that way? Because I think it, you know, hindsight's 20-20, I was very lucky with Daryl. He was kind. He was smart. That's given, but you're advising these people. Because I just said, because I was very lucky.

I think people mature and change so much in their 20s. You know, I used to be, I used to work in a middle school. And I used to say of the fifth graders that were trying to figure out of high school for their kids, I'd said, listen, the kids you have in fifth grade, you're not even going to recognize that kid. in eighth grade, because that's how much they change in middle school. It's the same thing I feel about people that get into relationships in their 20s. Especially men. Men mature later than women. I think women change a lot too. People, their career goals, their aspirations, their interests, their desire to travel, their desire to try on new personalities and new ways of living.

So much changes in the 20s. I don't think people know who they are really. until they're close to 30. But if they've already in a long-term relationship since they've been younger and starting to wonder if they need, they're starting to wonder, if somebody's starting to wonder if she should explore more things prior to

before this big day comes that you say I do, then if they're already thinking that, I would think yes. Oh, you know how some people go to college, Kathy? and they were together all through high school. And they separate through college. They'll see each other when they come home, but they're allowed to date other people that's, you know, exploring.

I don't know that I could have handled that. But that's when you find out, is he really the one, you know? Yeah. I think you have to kiss a lot of frogs, try it a lot of outfits, you know, use any hackney an expression you want. I think it's very rare that someone gets it right when they're 22 years of age. I think, you know, late 20s, 26, 27, 28,

you start to know who you are, but not when you're 20, 21, 22. And don't you agree nowadays, it is much later than it was when we were young? And why do you think that is? They're smarter. No, probably because they're education so expensive. You can't afford you've got to pay.

You're still at your mother's at 30. I think that's partly it. I also think that people have the resources to travel more, change jobs more. We're just a much more mobile society. You know, you don't marry the guy from your hometown too much anymore because you're out seeing the world. I think that all of those things contribute to making a person not necessarily ready. My advice, I don't want you to cheat on your man, but you should have had other relationships and you compare how they make you feel, how happy you are.

with this one or this one, just like at our show when we did The Bachelor. How does that person feel when they're with this one or they're with this one? And coming down to that big decision might be the hardest thing they've ever had to do. I've watched people sweat and cry. You're absolutely right. It's funny you just said that, Susan, because there's actually, it's sort of like an equal equation. People in their early years, you know, let's call it 20 to 30, I think should try on a lot of different relationships and a lot of different experiences. And you know what? I think when you're dating, let's call it 55, 60 and over, the same thing. Don't jump into the first relationship if you're divorced or a widow or widower. You know, try on. You've changed since you

were in that permanent relationship. Try on. I mean, that isn't the question of the day, but it just made me think of that. Things that were so important to you might have changed for sure. That's right. That's right. All right. Are you ready to get in some fan questions here? Let's do it. I can't wait. Here we go. Here's the first one. It's from Anonymous.

Okay. Ladies, I am so angry right now. I don't know what to do. This past weekend was my best friend's wedding. Let's call her Amy. As we were all standing there listening to Amy's vows, there was not a dry eye in the place. It was so beautiful. Her now husband, however, yeah.

It was the most crude, horrid thing I've ever heard, making sex. jokes, talking about how he'll still love her, even when she, quote, goes downhill, et cetera. No one laughed, except for the groom's dad. Everyone else did that very uncomfortable laugh to fill the painful silence. Now she's married and on her honeymoon. You guys know how weddings go. She was so busy. We didn't have time to sit and talk.

So I have no idea how she feels. Can I bring this up the next time I see. what do I do? I'm so angry for her. I've never seen this kind of behavior on him. Thanks, ladies. Well, first of all, I think she knew who she was marrying. I mean, that wasn't the first time he was sarcastic or crude or rude or rude.

Yeah. And maybe she took it funny, you know, he did say even when she goes downhill that he'd still love her. Like, that was just his humor. I get it that the audience. was not in favor of this, except for his father, who shares the same humor, I guess.

As far as bringing it up, I don't know. I don't know. If she wants to talk about it, then fine. You can let her know. Susan, did you just hear that? Wait, did you just hear that?

What? The world just cracked. Why? Well, because we agreed. Oh. I couldn't agree with you more. Seriously. I'm so,

angry for her sweetheart anonymous you don't get to be angry for her man not yours it's her it's her if she's not angry mazzletoff let her live her life you live yours don't worry about it you know if Susan's exactly right if she brings it up and says

what the hell was wrong with that guy you can say I know wasn't it terrible you can pour each other a big glass of wine and commiserate that she married this fool who speaks crassly to his wife his now wife But, I mean, obviously, if it were my friends,

yeah, say, were you okay with that? Like, I thought it was funny because we know and love him. Okay. The world just got to say something, if you had to say something. And it's your best friend. No. That was pretty funny. Make light of it.

I wouldn't say, Susan, if you got married and your now husband made a, really crass thing you know what i'd be sitting this is a thing people think you know me he wouldn't have because i would have called him on it right then and then you're right but but just just in you know generically a friend let's say i would i probably would feel very sorry for my friend for the embarrassment that i would feel but you know what that would be the embarrassment i'm feeling not necessarily the embarrassment she's feeling and if everyone in the room was embarrassed so be it the point is she's now married if she brings it up if you if this happened to you or nancy or joan or anyone and they brought it up to me then i would say i would talk about it and i would take my lead

from them if they were exactly uh upset about it you know then i was she's asking us do i bring it up no you do not let's say it together susan no stay in your own lane Stay in your own girl. I love it. But thanks for asking us. I love it. Let me know if you do say something or if your best friend says something. I'm really curious to see.

And even the bride's mother, like I would love to know her thoughts. Do you know what I mean? Let us know. Let us know. When she comes back to the guy too. Yeah. But when she comes back from her honeymoon, you know, don't ask her about the sex and how many times the day they had it.

Wait for her to tell you about the wedding. Because if she was upset, she's going. to get down to it. Definitely, definitely. Send us a DM, please. I mean, even if we don't do it on air, we're just curious. Yeah, if you don't want us to report back, we won't. But just we want to know our inquiring minds want to know. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated? with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, Wes West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know

our get-down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Fans taking over American cities, government hop-out boys hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them. Two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here, Mandarin. all over the place. The Teriffs. And of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot and boy, did we pull up from the logo to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society.

So what Trump figured out is entertain them and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcast on the IHard Radio. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio. search emergency intercom and listen now. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast,

I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did.

Join me for conversations about, healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happens in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the OverCumper podcast

as part of the My Cultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill. host to the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually

want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We do, and thanks for writing in to us because that was really a good one.

All right, we have one more, Kathy. Anonymous writes. Ladies, I need your help. My boyfriend cannot get a good picture of me to save his life. What do I do? I really don't want to sound like a diva when I talk to him, but the picks he gets are diabolical. We have so many trips lined up for the rest of the year and I want those cute picks.

How can I get him to do this for me without sounding annoying? He has little to no social media presence. So he doesn't really get it. I'm not worried about him judging me. I just feel a little weird bringing this up. L.O.L. Thanks, ladies. Well, why do you feel weird if he can't,

what is he doing wrong with the pictures? Like, teach him, educate the man. Or go buy a selfie stick. Okay. So you know what my answer to this is? I knew that's where you were going to go because all, for those of you, when Susan and I recently were on a cruise, you know, we're sitting there. I'm studying the Acropolis. Susan's turning her head the perfect way to get the perfect picture and, you know, angling her body, whatever.

Here's my answer. I think you are making a huge mistake, girlfriend. enjoy the time live in the moment with your boyfriend who cares if it's a perfect pick have the perfect experience with your boyfriend those memories are going to live in your heart and your mind a lot longer than the perfect angle standing in front cupping the sunset you know what i mean i do i do but if she has a job or something in her career that she needs these picks for social say that. I think she's a social media like so many people today who live their lives are what they depict of themselves on social media. Have you seen my social media page? There's a lot of ugly picks out there.

I know, but you, on our recent trips, and you took a crap load of pictures. People would, Susan would say, take another one, take another one. I'd say, take one and I'm done. Like, I just want to have. Right. You're like, how do I stand? What do I do? But for one picture, I don't. You know. Beat 100 pictures. But I think it's everyone to themselves, each to them, each to their own. I like having the pictures. I hear what she's saying. I do too.

But I would encourage her to think about enjoying the time with your boyfriend, making the memories in person and lodging those in your brain. And I know it's a thing now. Everyone wants the perfect social media pages and all that. What she's saying, though, Kathy, she feels a little weird about bringing it. Obviously, it is something to her. So what she needs from us. She needs to teach them.

You're right. Yes. You sit there like Susan will say to me, don't stand that way. How you put yourself in a square and you get the feet and the head and center. And then you tilt the camera this way and you tilt the, you know what? Here's one for you. If he has an iPhone, he can take a class at the local Apple store in using his iPhone. And I want a new Apple phone for this advertisement.

But seriously, you can take free classes. at an Apple store and they'll tell you how to make the most of your iPhone and how to take the best pictures. As you know, we had to film certain things when we do things and you get the new self, it's not just a selfie stick like back in the day. There's so much out there. You set it up, you get your pictures done, and then stop, get it over with, and then go enjoy your time with him.

Yeah, but I think, I think, I'm just making the point. Some people prefer to have the perfect pictures. and I'd prefer to have the perfect experience. That's all. But I hear you anonymous, and I think you need to teach him. He can research it online. He can Google it. There's all kinds of ways to learn to be a better picture taker.

But if he's like me, you know what? He's going to say, yeah, it's good enough. And you know what? Is it a deal breaker for you? Maybe. I hope not. No. I hope but the best point thing is, I hope you have the best trips with your boyfriend.

I hope you have the best trips. I envy those trips coming up. And Kathy, you know when I have, you go delete that one. You're not going to put a bad one. You get it. I mean, think about those things. She wants a good picture. I get it.

I get it. But I'm just trying to get her to enjoy the trips and enjoy her boyfriend. I know, I know. But definitely teach him what he's doing long. Yeah. That's all. Yeah. Let us know.

Have fun on those trips. Send us photographs. Send us, you know, we want to hear all about those trips. Okay. We're going to move into our golden things. spotlight where we just discuss something that is affecting the golden community. Today's golden spotlight is all about ageism, something I know a lot about. There are so many stereotypes and judgments that young people knowingly and unknowingly throw at goldens. What are some of those things that

you pick up on? How do they make you feel? How did you handle moments of ageism now? And what would you say to those that are ages. I got to give one right off the bat. When I was filming Bachelor in Paradise, constantly, the young ones, they were like, you know, go, whatever. With me, they're like, be careful, you know, the deck is wet. Be careful to, can I help you into the pool? I'm like, get your hands off me. You know, it was constant, like, we have to be careful of the older ones, you know, But I think that's a nice thing, though. No, it's ageism. Why are they looking out for you?

Because why are they looking out, Susan? Why? Because we're older. That's ageism. You look out for everyone's safety. So you would prefer people not to look at or not hold the door for you? No, that's different. No, no, no.

One is chivalry. If the deck is slippery and you've got young ones and old ones getting on a boat, okay? Or walking through the bar. and it's been raining so the deck around the pool is slippery it's wet if you have people holding your arm be careful susan it's slippery oh thank you and the 24 year old is right behind you walking no one's offering her a hand that is age it i appreciate it it's not a matter whether you appreciate it it's ageism it's treating you differently because of your age but in a good way not to me

well, not everybody's as strong and as healthy as you are. So you keep an open mind with most people. I don't feel like I'm that, that old yet, but I know from my grandmother and her people, yes, I went out of my way to make sure they didn't trip or fall or be careful. Okay, so give me some other stereotypes. What are some other stereotypes that you think of for older people? They don't know. what's going on today

because of social media and AI and so on. In other words, you're saying young people or people think that older people don't know how to use social media because they're old. And a lot of times we don't. A lot of people don't.

But it's eight. But the ageism, let me just be clear. Ageism is when you make an assumption based on someone's age. Age. So you make an assumption. assumption that they can't walk on a slippery deck because they're older. You make an assumption that they don't understand modern technology because they're older. They didn't grow up with it.

That's ageism. And I hate it. You do. I see, I don't take it as an offensive thing. For some reason, I just don't. I think it's nice that you were brought up well enough to know that if I'm your elder, you're going to pause and let me go first. Or you're going to say, be careful, it's wet, or you're going to say, can I hold the door for you? To me, I'm not looking at ageism as it. You know what? I want everyone to be safe. Hold the door for everyone. Tell everyone the deck is slippery. If you're only doing it for older people, that's ageism. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota,

it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his person? professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West, prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You already know I get down. If you grew up in our urban areas of comfort of struggle, you understand politics much more than you giving credit for. Feds taking over American cities, government hop-out boys

hopping out the van, snatching up your Theo and them, two wars that was supposed to be solved in 24 hours. Jerry just out here, mandering all over the place, the turfs, and of course, the Epstein of it all. Well, this week, we decided to shoot our shot, and boy, did we pull up from the logo, to see if we could get somebody to come tap in with us. And the one and only Jamil Hill pulled up from this politics podcast to keep it a whole

century. The American public is used to being entertained. We're a consumption society. So what Trump figured out is entertain them, and they'll never question you. Listen to the hood politics with prop podcast on the IHard Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast for you. Open your free IHeart Radio app.

Search emergency intercom and listen now. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcomber podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did.

Join me for conversations about healing. and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happens in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcumper podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host and the sports and politics podcast's politics. And on the latest episode of politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party.

What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives. And that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress, and you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,

wherever you get your podcast. How does it make you feel? I don't like ageism at all. I think, you know, what are there examples? How about not hiring you for a job? Yeah. Oh, you're 60 years old. You can't possibly.

Let me just tell you, again, on Bachelor and Paradise, I was out there working out with Leslie. Leslie's a few years younger than I am. We were on the beach doing push-ups. Do you know how many young girls I saw out there working out? And you know what the guys said? Can I just talk about the bods on those guys? But the guys lifting weights.

They all said to Leslie and me, wow, you guys are really fit. I can't believe you can do full push-ups. And you could add on to that at your age. that's age as a age because they said that because it it's you're older they don't expect you to do what you used to be able to do I know I can't but it's it's it's having expectations based on your age you can't do a job Susan that part yes that part I get that part hit home yeah because some people are still like yourself got that you're in better shape than some 30 year olds I know. And how dare you assume that she won't be able to do it because of the number that

she is? Exactly. One of the things we were doing on Bachelor and there were lots of things who were doing and it was, they were giving me a head start because they thought I was, they're stupid. Because they thought it was older. I left them in the dirt. I know you did. I left them in there and you're like, wow. You could have them a head start and still won. They were like, wow, you're a fast one. Uh-huh. Yes, I am. Wow. You can. can swim. Yes, I can. Like, that to me is ages and people. That's why, again, you see, you get me, this, this is a hot, literally a hot topic for me, a men saying that they want to date women who are, you know, between 60 and 63. Because of a number. Because of a number. Try me.

You are judged me based on my calendar date. I will outrun you, out swim you, out anything you. I'll be, you know, you might be 10 years younger than I am. But you are an exception to the Vol. But I mean, you have to admit that. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And I hate it. So, and you're right, I realize that not everyone is healthy.

Susan, tell the story about you dragging the suitcases through the airport. Susan was dying. She had three people help her. I mean, and again. I also had three suitcases. I exactly but I'm just saying people offered to help you because of your age and I'm so grateful

I was so grateful and I'm going to take heat for this do you remember what I said what when I was when I was getting crazy because I wanted to make sure we were getting to the airport on time Kathy runs wait you got to know no matter airport in the mosque She's 40 feet ahead of me She just leaves you in the dust

She's on her way Like wait a minute We came here together When you slow your role No in the mosque I took my time You and I just got lost together But let me just say It is

It is I said to Susan Because I got frustrated Because she couldn't keep up Because she was Now mind you how busy The Athens airport It is so unorganized

We can't even go there That's a whole other podcast. But I said to Susan, turned around and looked at her and I said, you know what, Susan? Because let me just say, Susan packs for, you know, I might wear this shoes or I might wear those shoes. She has, she has, you know, options out the yin-yang. I wore every pain. What did I tell you? I said, do not pack more than you can carry the next time because I'm not helping you next time.

Bring what you can carry. And we're holding to that. We're holding to that. How did we get off of ageism? I don't know. You know, I took it, like, not in the negative sense, but when you talk about a job or they're judging because of your age or you won't get a job because of your age, then, yes, I feel certain. Or men won't date you because of your age. All those ageism is never.

This is what causes people to lie about their age. That's right. Susan, just in my opinion, I mean, we can, you know, please let us know if I'm wrong. Ageism is, it's never a good thing. ageism always has a pejorative meaning it's never a good thing if you if you bring up the word ageism it's not good right right did you ever feel on the ship that we were on what did what would your answer be when they say well how old were they I would say from 30s there was a few younger but most of the people were mid 30s 40s our age and up oh yeah I don't think I don't think I don't

I think we met one guy that was 29. Most people were in their 30s. And do you remember what they all speaking of ageism? Do you remember they said, wow, you guys can really party. You can really hang. Wait. Did you ever hear them say that to another 30 year old?

No. Why would they? Because they're young. That's called ageism. They said it to us because of our age. I don't see it as a bad thing. They were surprised that we do as good as we do. You're damn right. That's right. And I take it upon myself daily to prove people wrong.

And so do you, Susan, you look and act younger than your age, and so do I, and I'm proud of it. It is a number. Do we not agree on that? It's just a number, not everybody ages the same. I know I can't do what I used to do in a lot of things, the stamina. You mean like carry three pieces of luggage through the airport? You mean like that? I probably never could do that.

No, I'm smart. I get my charge card out and I get the wheels, you know, the big. Push cart. Oh, that's the other funny thing. Wait, how about when I had to go to the bathroom and I was waiting on you? I had to wait three and a half hours for her to land after flying coach, mind you, for nine and a half hours. Then I have to wait in an airport for three and a half hours and I had to go potty.

Here I am with this cart, with my luggage. At that point, it was only two pieces. And it wouldn't fit into the bathroom. And I was like, oh, my God, what am I going to do? I have to pay this kind woman. I'm trying to get it in. I was pushing. I waited in line. I'm pushing. She goes, I don't think that's going to make it. I said, I don't either, but I really have to go. She goes, I will wait.

I said, thank you so much. Wait, wait, we have, we're running out of time here, but we have so many, we were in the park in Istanbul. Do you remember that? And Susan had to go to the bathroom. How about the bathroom? That's what I'm talking about. Susan had to go to the bathroom so badly. You have to pay. It's just a small, you know, small coin. It comes up to like five cents. I got my charge card out. They wouldn't accept it. So this guy comes up, long story short, this guy comes up, puts his card in. You can use these credit cards to go to the bathroom.

And Susan goes in and there's two bathrooms. I ran to the very first one. If you follow us on Instagram, by the way, it's on Instagram. I'm going to repost it, Susan. It's so damn funny. I think I'm going to repost it today. There are two doors. One has a picture of a toilet on it. That's very clear.

The other picture has, it looks like an oval with a hole in the middle. And when you open the door, you're running in here. Now, keep in mind, do you think I'm looking at pictures on a door? It was about to come down my legs. People, I did not care. I would have went in public. Literally. The first door.

Which is the hole in the ground. Oh, my God. And I go in the toilet. And I come out and I said to Susan. Susan goes, oh my God, that was the worst experience. What are you talking about? She goes, I had to crouch down and pee in a hole. I said, what are you talking?

So, of course, Kathy, I. I looked at her like, didn't you? Yeah, so I have to go back in and investigate, and I took a video of it. And I'm going to put it back up today, Susan, online. But you know what? I assumed you had the same because when I was in Paris in Sectorker, I'll never forget paying my two coins to go to the bathroom. And this was a dirt hole. This one, we went in, had tile.

It was very clean. It was a hole people. It was a hole. But it was still a hole in the ground with beautiful on top. The one in Paris, not so much. It was dirt. And I looked at my husband at the time. I said, Dickie, do you know I just paid to pee on a ground?

If you could have seen her face, we're going to end it with this one. If you could have seen Susan's face, when we came out of that bathroom, she goes, I can't believe it was just like France had to pee in a hole. I said, what are you talking about? She goes, it was a hole. There was. And I said, I peed in a toilet. She goes, no, you didn't. This is the stuff that we get into when we're traveling.

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