Bachelor Happy Hour - We All Deserve Love | Golden Hour

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back for another listener write-ins episode. We get into all things dating. From controlling boyfriends to “almost” divorced dates, we are diving in...to it all — and Kathy and Susan have lots of great advice. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to follow so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
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Starting point is 00:01:47 We're here, and we're so glad that you've joined us today. Thank you, Kathy. Yes, we are. And if you haven't listened to our episode from Wednesday, check it out. we had our really dear friend Nancy from the Golden Bachelor. She was awesome. Nancy is always awesome. She is just the kindest, sweetest person and so pretty.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yes. And she's young. And she's really young yet. Don't rub it in, Susan. I'm telling you. Don't rub it in. She is, you know, we talk to her a lot. I love how she opened up and shared with us about having diabetes, the one-tooth,
Starting point is 00:02:24 the thing that she's getting her. implant that was so funny but here's the thing about nancy and she said it she wears hearing aids she talked about that on the show she her candy she calls them she has um she has diabetes she has some has a tooth that needs to but you know what none of it gets her down she is still looking for love she's still so positive she doesn't look for reasons not to engage in life she's always looking to engage and I love that. And she's fun. She's fun to be with on vacation. We were a blast the three of us. Somebody out there is going to sweep her up. You just wait, wait. Can we just go back we didn't talk about it on the podcast with her? Do you remember when we were leaving St. Martin?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh my God, the rain. In the flood? Wait, she was in the back of the car. The poor girl couldn't get a word in edgewise. And people wrote that in too. Nancy, you got to speak up. She, she, we were driving. It was pouring rain. And flights were being canceled. And flights were being canceled. And Nancy is just freaking out thinking, I was laughing because my flight back to Austin was fine, no problem, not delayed. Susan's got phone in each hand because she used to be a flight attendant. So me it was no big deal. We'll be another one. Yeah, she's booking her fight.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Nancy's like, oh, can't get home. I'm going to be stuck here by myself. It was so funny. It really was funny. Oh my gosh. So today we're answering questions from fans who have written in asking for advice. And like always, we do have some good ones. And don't forget, if you have a question for Kathy and I, reach out.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. You know, it was really interesting. Nancy's sharing with us after Daisy sharing about her. Yeah, her cochlear implant. Nancy all of a sudden shared about what's going on with her. And so what I find really interesting in that is she wasn't really comfortable. We knew because we shared a room with her at the mansion. but she wasn't really comfortable sharing with people about having diabetes.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And now she's very comfortable, attributed it to Daisy. But you know what, Susan, I think the reason she didn't want to share it before was she thought that people would judge her. Or think there's something wrong with her or she's not worthy of dating or she'd be too much trouble today. That's crazy because so many people have that issue. And it's okay. It's okay. And she said that, you know, she told us she dated a guy who broke up with her. But the interesting point here is she gave credit to Daisy speaking out. That's what gave her the courage to speak out.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And you know what that does me? All of us, all of us speaking out makes it okay. And also, us old dog can learn from young puppies. Yeah, they always learn. I learn every single day I'm alive. All right. Well, today we're moving on and we're going to be. answering questions from fans who have written in asking for advice. And like always, we have got some really good ones today. Don't forget, if you have a question for Susan and me, please reach out.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. Yes, please don't forget to do that. But first, let's get started with today's question of the day. Okay. I think we should have some fun with this one today, Susan. We've talked a lot about meeting men on dating apps. So here's the question. If we could give a man three things they should absolutely not do so that they could have a first date.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Oh, I hope there's men paying attention out there. I know the number one thing. Go. Well, two. Give us one. First, current pictures and don't take them in the bathroom. That's two. That's two.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I got more than three. Okay, I've got a couple here too. I like that. Mine is, if you're bald, celebrate it, enjoy it. Don't wear a baseball cap and then make it worse by turning around backwards. Do not under any circumstances, hold up dead fish and a can of bear. Oh, God, I know one like that. But going back to if you're being bald, as long as they're showing more than one picture,
Starting point is 00:06:47 because a lot of bald men don't want the sun on their head, and they do wear caps a lot. So if they're showing a picture of them doing an activity or what have you, they're going to have that on. As long as there is other pictures showing who you really are. I got to, okay, guys, listen up. A lot of us like bald men, so don't hide it. I don't know about you, but I think when a guy holds up a dead fish,
Starting point is 00:07:08 it's always a big, long fish. Are you trying to advertise something? They're proud. That takes skill to catch those things. Oh, it does. No, I know it does, but I think they're advertising something else when they're holding up that. And, guys, it's not attractive. Don't do it. Selfies in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I mean, with the... That's just a no-no. It's gross. They're shade. It's just, it's wrong. And at 50-plus years of age, if you're still living in your mom's basement, that's not a good thing to start with. Okay. And the other one, I'm not sure you're going to agree with me on this one, Susan.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We said top three. It should have been the top 30. Please put a shirt on. when you take a picture, please. No towels. I mean, the low towels. All right, let's do the opposite this time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Okay. Okay, what could we help them with with their profile? Talk about the things you love to do and what you're looking for in a partner. Okay. Anything else? Oh, there's lots more, but what do you think? I agree with that. And just be honest.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Be honest. Don't lie about your age. Yes. Although, no, I've been known because after six, I'm going to admit it after 60 years old, I was 61, and all of a sudden the people they would send you on the site that matched with you were like, I'm young at heart. And I know a lot of people are. However, when I go to meet somebody, it's the very first thing out of my mouth. And it was only three years.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But now I don't go on dating sites because I'm 67. Oh, my God. So my kids, this is true. Sorry, kids, if you're listening. my kids told me to lie about my age. My daughter, Caitlin, said, mom, you're so fun-loving. You look young. You act young.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But you know what? And we're telling them not to. Don't lie because you're starting a relationship out with a lie. If you'll lie about that, what else? I mean, if it's a couple years and you go to meet them, tell the truth right then. Okay. That's okay. Okay, everyone of you're listening, I'm 60 years old.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's too big of a lie. Oh, now we're deciding what's too big of a lie. Just have current pictures. full body pictures people like i've heard a lot of stories a lot of stories men and women both that they go and they've chat it with somebody for a few days or weeks online and then they talked on the phone and they go to meet and the person shows up and they look nothing like they did in their head shots you know be real be real can i just say something that guys on a first date do what joey did on the bachelor listen listen show some interest
Starting point is 00:09:45 We don't need to hear everything that happened in your life from the cradle. Ask us some questions. Sometimes that's nerves, I get that. But always ask about the person sitting next to you. Don't just keep going on and on about your life and what you do and so on. Have you been on the day? Kathy, for either one of us after being on the show, of course we're going to have more to say because of our experience and they're going to ask questions about it.
Starting point is 00:10:10 But don't forget to stop, pause and say, what about you? Talk to me about who are you? Susan. Yeah. I'm stuck for what you just said 30 seconds ago. We only have a lot to say since being on the show. We always have a lot to say. You've got to be kidding me. But I learn how to listen. That's true.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And listening is so important. All right, let's move on. We've got some great questions today. The first one comes from Carissa, from Arizona. And she says, Susan and Kathy, my best friend and I, are both in committed relationships and still enjoy the frequent girls' night out. As you should.
Starting point is 00:10:47 As you should. We love to get all dressed up together, take cute, drink cocktails and go dancing recently i've noticed that she's been wearing a different style of clothes she's more covered up and wears less makeup when i asked her about it she said that her man told her that she shouldn't get all dressed up for anyone but him it makes me sad she hasn't been acting like her normal bubbly self since she started dressing differently should i try to encourage her to wear whatever she wants or will I just get myself in between a relationship that I have no place in? Well, I could be off here, but the first thing that comes to mind is that man seems very
Starting point is 00:11:33 controlling. Exactly what I was going to say. And maybe he's got the fear in her that she's doing exactly what he says. On the other hand, was she dressing too sexy or too? What's too sexy, Susan? I don't know, but when you're in a relationship, I can't. Oh, so you're going to agree with the guy. I just can't.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I just can't. She needs to be who she is. Exactly. And no man, and I repeat, no man will ever tell you how to dress, how to walk, how to talk, or how to be. You are who you are, and he should love you for that. And Carissa, if you're a good friend, you need to explain that to her and tell her and stand by her because they're not even married. I committed a relationship and he's controlling her now? What's that going to look like?
Starting point is 00:12:20 And notice that she said she doesn't seem herself. That could be an abusive thing. I would dig a little if you really care about her. I would dig in and see what's making her tick. What's doing this? I hate to say it, Susan, but it also could be a confidence issue. How many people have we spoken to young women who just say they don't have the confidence? But she was wearing cool clothes and now all of a sudden he says something and she's not.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Right, because maybe she's not confident in their relationship. Or he's telling her bad things. Like you don't look good in that or once again, abusive relationship. I would check into it. I would definitely, Carissa. You're a nice friend, Carissa. You are definitely a good friend. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:13:01 If you're worried about getting in the relationship in between them, don't. Don't because sometimes it's hard to hear things. But believe me, if you're seeing it, she's thinking it. And if you're a really, really true friend. She knows that and she's your friend, she'll understand. Yeah. Just be kind and gentle about it, but definitely. Delivery.
Starting point is 00:13:22 It comes down to delivery again. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I'll just be honest. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by basketball legend, Candice Parker, who stops by to discuss her candid new book, The Can Do Mindset, in which she shares why she waited two years into marriage to come out. Like when I close my eyes at night, every night, I was like, I need to find my prince charming. Like, it was never a princess. Like, that never entered into my mind.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But, you know, as I learned, sometimes life gives you things wrapped in a package that you didn't expect it. And that was just, you know, and honestly, it took me a long time to be okay with myself. Make sure to listen to this week's episode of Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:15:29 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeart Radio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. All right, question number two. Joan from Nevada sent us this.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Hi, ladies. I love your podcast so far. Thank you. And look forward to listening to it every week. So thank you for being you. I am a 65-year-old woman. I have been divorced for about 10 years. I recently started dating a man I met at the gym.
Starting point is 00:16:09 he's handsome and kind and really sweat me off my feet we have been seeing each other for about two months last week at dinner i'm a little bit jealous right now okay he mentioned the fact oh god that he is still married he has always referred to his wife as his ex but he explained to me that they never legally divorced I'm truthfully not sure how I feel about this. I would never knowingly date a married man. However, I also don't want to stop seeing him at this point. Do you have any advice?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Well, yes, I do. Because some people don't do the final thing, divorce at first. It takes sometimes years. As long as you don't think he's cheating and they're not actively married in the same household. but I've known people that have gone years and not finish the paperwork, if you will. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to be a little bit tougher on this one.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You are dating a married man. I don't care of it's legal. It's not his ex-wife. It's his wife. It's his wife. Now, he may not love her. There may not be any intimacy in their relationship. All of that may be true.
Starting point is 00:17:35 but and he's out on his own living his own life but she doesn't really say she doesn't say i'm assuming they live separately but i think she has to think about what does she want because if she's in love with him and wants to marry him at some point she's 65 she's been divorced 10 years if she's looking for a permanent relationship um it's not happening unless she's a big of my only concern is you've been seeing them for two months. That's something I would have announced on the first meet. Just know, I am not legally divorced. We have separate lives.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Okay, I'm going to come clean here. Honesty, I think, is the best. Are you ready? Yeah. The only guy I dated seriously since my husband passed away, I dated him for about 10 months. He was legally married. He was getting divorced.
Starting point is 00:18:32 They were living in separate homes. They were separated. They clearly were not getting back together. That's my story. For a long time, I dated men and I wasn't legally divorced. She said, you know, I don't know how I feel about this. I would never knowingly date a married man. I knew the guy I was dating and was married,
Starting point is 00:18:52 but he was going through the process of a divorce. That's the difference here. He's not going through it. How do you know he's not going through it? She just, he says. never legally divorced. So they're not going through a divorce. They've never legally divorced.
Starting point is 00:19:08 That's the difference. And if her expectation is a marriage or moving in together or any of those things, that's not going to feel really comfortable when they're legally. You know, let me say this to you, darling. You are not going to be filing a joint tax return with that guy. Not that you want to anyhow. I think, honestly, it's up to you. It's how you feel about it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 If he's being honest and sincere and say his, I won't call. or her ex. His wife on paper has moved on and she might be in a relationship. It could come down to financial reasons. So look into it. Don't jump. Talk about it. Yeah. Good. All right. Let's go with question number three. Martin wrote, hi, Kathy and Susan. I really love your podcast. Thank you, Martin. I love that everybody likes that. Thank you, Martin. I'm a 74-year-old man living in New Jersey. My neighbor. My wife, he might be single. My wife of more than 50, oh, my wife of more than 50 years passed away about four months ago after a long battle with breast cancer. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah, she was the only woman I had ever been with. Recently, I met a woman at a nearby coffee shop and I would really like to ask her out. I have three adult children and at dinner one night I broached the subject with my two daughters. They were incredibly upset that I would even consider dating this soon after their mom passed. I don't want them to feel that way but I also want to live my life who knows how many good years I have left how would you handle this situation with your children
Starting point is 00:20:43 well I can jump right in because I've had this situation well it's only been four months so first of all yeah Martin's condolences on losing your wife that's really that's tough I would say that she's only been gone four months and there's nothing wrong in dating her her. I'm not sure I would have broached it to my kids this early. I might have just gone out with her for a little bit. And then I honestly do think, because I've lived this, after, if you really are interested
Starting point is 00:21:19 in her, you know, down the road, let's call it six, eight months. And you really want her to be a part of your life, then it's time to talk to your children. When you say, how many good years do you have left? Don't rush into something. Well, you never know how long you have left. And I do agree with the four months as a little soon, especially to tell your kids. I would keep it between you and that person for quite some time until they're ready. They might never be ready. And you're not replacing their mom. You're just having your significant other, your person to share the latter years of life with. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I really don't. I just don't know that I would celebrate it to my children just yet.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah, I will say, Martin, you do deserve, we all deserve love, we all deserve happiness, and I wish you the best with this woman. We both do, but I think you just got to slow your role a little bit. You're 74, you know, think slow your role. I still think he could meet her and be with her. Just slow how you tell your children, right? Do you agree with that? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:22:26 But I also think if you're in good health, you know, don't be rushing into anything. Just take your time. I guess that's what I'm saying. Take your time and wait for the right one. If this is the right one, great. But your kids, it's going to take some getting used to. He just wants to ask her out.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I don't think he's been seeing her yet. Read that. I would really like to ask her out. So he asked the kids if it was okay to ask. Oh, God bless you. Martin, you're a good man. You're a good man. Ask her out.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Martin, you do not need to ask your children's permission to do anything. You are a grown-ass man. Enjoy it. And I hope she's a good lady. And we wish you the best. Yes. And if anybody has questions for us, we want to hear them. Please go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You may even be featured on our podcast. Okay. So, Kathy, Millie asks about the Bachelor Golden Hour. is it a red flag when a man is emotionally unavailable in a relationship? And what have you done in relationships where you feel like you are more in touch with your emotions than your partner? And lastly, how do you support those who can't express themselves as well? Ooh, that's a lot. To me, it is a red flag.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I mean, you can't change a person. You can't. some people are not in touch with their emotions like others are if they're emotionally unavailable then i don't believe they're ready for a relationship you know they talk about an EQ an emotional quotient if this guy doesn't have the ability to be vulnerable with his emotions and that's something really important to you i would say it's more than a red flag it's a done deal yeah i'm very in touch with my emotions and men don't express it as much as women, I'd say. But bottom line is if he's not able or unavailable to express. I think it's something to talk about, right?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah, but it's, it is a red flag. That was her question. And yes, I agree it's a red flag. I would call it, I would call it a waving red flag. It's jumping up and down. This person, Millie also asks, how do you support those who can? express themselves as well. I think you'd be their friend. And share with them like there's nothing wrong with expressing some feeling. Like do you feel a certain way about things? Maybe they don't even understand they could have had a life that their family didn't show
Starting point is 00:25:12 feelings, you know? Yeah, I think what you said at the top was exactly it. You know, you can only do yourself. You can only worry about yourself. You can change yourself. You can't change your other people. You can support them by being their friend and listening, but Millie, you are not going to change someone
Starting point is 00:25:30 who is emotionally unavailable into a person who is emotionally available. Okay. Can I squeeze one more in before your last one? Sure. If there's one thing you could change about your golden bachelor experience in the mansion, what would you have changed or done differently, Kath?
Starting point is 00:25:47 Nothing. Nothing. I would have changed some of the lighting in the bathroom or no well that's not what they're asking yeah no I wouldn't I mean as we've talked about I got a lot of press from saying zip it but you know Teresa and I are friends I mean it's just I I am I am change anything yeah you and I are who we are and that's why we had such a good time okay that's good all right My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:27:06 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge. But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. And there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be
Starting point is 00:27:41 able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives, knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years, but their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Humanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency and Emergency. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:28:26 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. is going to be a tough one. Jason asks, hello Kathy and Susan. Hi, Jason. Hi, Jason. I am curious about your thoughts on Pala Mori. Polly Amori. Polly Amori. My wife and I opened our relationship a few
Starting point is 00:29:02 years ago, and it's been working really well for us, but we are afraid to tell our parents due to fear of judgment. I would too. I would love your perspective on it all because you are from our parents' generation. Would you be supportive if your kid was in an happy and healthy open relationship? Thank you for your insight. Some things are left to be private. I don't want to judge you, but no, I would not tell your parents, like, they're not going to get it. You know, I don't know how I feel about that.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I think that if your parents, I have a son who's gay, and I love him. I don't judge him. I think if your parents are going to judge you, it's only maybe because polyamore is not as accepted a detail. So if you're in a polyamorous relationship and it's working for you, I don't think it's as mainstream as, you know, the LGBTQ community or heterosexual community, but I think that people who judge those kinds of relationships,
Starting point is 00:30:16 they need to step back. I think you're right, maybe keeping it to yourself for your parents. You should be afraid to tell your parents. You should be? Yes, don't tell them. Well, wait a second. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What if, let's play this one out.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Okay. I've got a kid. He's in a polyamorous relationship. I don't, but let's say he does. Okay, or she. and they bring home, let's say, you know, my son. Oh, brings home, you know, Joe one week and Sam the next week. What do I think?
Starting point is 00:30:49 What am I going to think? She's a prostitute? I mean, let's just say it for what it is. I'm taking it at these people are adults. Right? He's married. They have their own life. They want to share this.
Starting point is 00:31:04 They're asking our advice because they're old school like us. I'm sorry. It doesn't say they're married. It's been working, really, my wife and I opened our relationship a few years ago. All right, so I can't read. Give me a break. Okay, you know what? That I even think more strongly.
Starting point is 00:31:21 If you're... You want to tell your mom and dad, it's like telling our Mimi or pop-up or no. Yeah. You know what? Keep it at home, honey. Enjoy your life. I'm not judging you, but don't tell. So, okay, Susan, we're going to play this again.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Okay. Now we know it's his wife. Yeah. Okay. They're coming to suit. Auntie Mimi. whatever you go by, and we're going to have spaghetti dinner. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Bring your wife, that's it. He brings the wife Julie with him. The next week he wants to bring Susie. No, he's married. He brings Julie every time. You know what? You're not going to see your kid ever again. Why? Because he can't keep it straight when he's with
Starting point is 00:31:58 Julie and when he's with the other one. Look what he's asking. We are afraid to tell our parents due to the fear of judgment. They want our perspective. I'm pretty open-minded. However, I want just you and your wife. I don't want to know about the other people. That's all. He asked, I told. Okay, so you are, you, you, you, the one who always says you don't judge. I'm not judging. Oh, you're not judging. Kathy, hear my words.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Don't tell me. You do you. He's asking my opinion of if he should tell his parents, but he's afraid they're going to judge him. I'm not judging him. Knock yourself out. Then why can he tell his parents? He's asking what, look, read the question again. I am afraid to tell our parents due to fear of judgment. And if you don't believe that they would be judged by the parents, you would say. I do believe they'd be judged by their parents.
Starting point is 00:32:51 They're not going to get it. And you just said you wouldn't let him come for dinner. You're judging, admit it. No, no, no, no, no, no. Would you let your son come with his wife one week and his girlfriend the next? No. Then you're judging. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That's not judging. I'm not condemning what they're doing. hear me cat pay attention hear me you do what you do i'll honor it you i'm not judging you have a ball but when it comes to your elderly parents they don't get this and i just think some things are better left unsaid okay they don't have to say it just show up with her all of a sudden kathy's cool too cool for school i'm just saying he said that's he said we're of their generation i would not want my child to keep something like that from me. So everybody, if you have a question for us, we do want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Even if we disagree, we agree to disagree. Go to bachelornation.com slash golden hour. You may even be featured on our podcast. Okay, Susan, you know how we love to play games? Yes. Okay. We're going to do one today. It's the game that we call moral quandary.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Okay? One of us will read a quandary. And then we each have to try to guess, what the other would do in the situation. You ready? I think so. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Susan, you are flying from New York to L.A. And you have an aisle seat. A mother and her young child are sitting next to you. You can tell the mom is struggling with the fussy toddler. And the woman remarks that her husband is sitting a few rows back in a middle seat. Susan's going to be tossing the kid over. I'm not taking a middle seat. Do you give up your eye?
Starting point is 00:34:37 So the family can sit together? No, but I'll have the kid on my lap. I'm like a kid magnet. I'll make them happy and stop crying. I'll give them things. I'll help with the kid. That's not what she's asking. Would you give up your seat?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Yes, see? Selfish. That's it. It's not selfish. I don't do middle seats. I had to do one not too long ago for five and a half hours. I was not happy. Can I just tell you, let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:35:00 You don't do aisle seats. You do window so you can put your head against something and sleep. I'll do an aisle too. But so, yeah, I. I mean, if it was really, really bad and the father was the only one that could do it, okay, maybe. But normally, no, I would just try to give the mom a hand. But let me guess, Kath, you're going to give up the seat, Arjungo, sit in the middle of two people for six hours. Nope, no, not even a little bit.
Starting point is 00:35:24 She is just like me. I got to tell you, I was on a flight recently to L.A. Yeah. Two rows back. It's almost, I think I wrote this question. And there was a mother with her husband sitting a row ahead. And the kid was screaming, you know. Pass the kid to the husband, I say.
Starting point is 00:35:47 No, he was sitting with the older child. She had the younger one. The flight attendant kept coming by and saying, can I get you anything? I said, yeah, I'm muzzle. But why not give the child to the father halfway through? I don't know. Why do mothers always have to do it? I don't know, but I'm not giving up my seat.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You know what? I do feel sorry for them. I mean, obviously, they have to get somewhere and you have to take kids. And whether the child's not feeling good or just a fuss bucket. Great, Susan. Susan? I do anything to a... Can I tell you a funny story? Wait, you'll do anything?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Wait, you'll do anything? Give up your seat. Okay, Kathy. The cashier at Nordstrom's is talking on her phone and made you wait about five minutes, ooh, before ringing you up. When she finally does, you realize she doesn't charge you. you for one of the sweaters you're buying, do you tell her? I don't think you'd get as far as letting her ring you up without a comment. Who are you talking to? Really? You're making me wait? I don't think so, lady.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Okay, but do you think I would tell her she didn't ring up one of the sweaters? Yeah, I do. Without a doubt. That's actually happened to me. Yeah, because they're going to be responsible for it. It's just like stealing, straight up steel. That's exactly what it. I literally went back to the grocery store once when they didn't charge me for a gallon of milk. How did you even know? Because I looked at my receipt when I went home. Did you ever leave and underneath the car? I had like a case of water or something.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I always, always go back. I don't want, I got enough things that have a guilty conscience. I don't want any guilt going on. I'm going to guess you. So I would have either walked away within those five minutes that I was waiting or I call me rude. But I would have been nice about, excuse me, excuse me. But you wouldn't steal a sweater. If that's not your boss on the phone that you should be waiting on me.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I have issues about today's people that younger. generation. They're almost rude. A lot of people when they're working for, you know, I'm sure pennies for the hour. Are you generalizing that all the younger generation is rude? No, not all. No, absolutely now. Don't put words in my mouth. That's not good. But if somebody's standing there waiting and you're having a personal phone call for five minutes, five minutes is a lifetime when you're standing there idle. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm going to say something. I'm probably going to say something, but I'm not stealing a sweater. And I wouldn't steal a sweater. Excuse me, babe. Not only are you rude and made me wait five minutes now you're not even ringing it up correct do i get this on the
Starting point is 00:38:06 house i would make sure they knew they gave it to me you're too funny all right here's the next one you're in a party and a couple hands you their iPhone to show you pictures of their new house you scroll too far and see naked pictures of them do you say anything hell yeah i'd be like yeah check it out don't you look good what do you think i would do swipe You think I would just keep swiping? No, you'd say something, wouldn't you? I'd be, damn right, I would. I'd be, I'd probably hold it up to the party.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Look what I found. No. I would kill you if you ever did that to me. Then don't put those kind of pictures on your phone. Really, who's phone you're going to put them on? Really? A couple has the room. Do the old-fashioned thing, get a photo album.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Oh, for God, thank God. Come up with the time. It's called Photo Vault. A photo vault. This way somebody can't accidentally see those things. You know what I would say? How embarrassing, though, right? It would be, but, you know, I would say, like,
Starting point is 00:39:06 what if it was your kids looking like, mom? Oh, if it were my kids, I'd drop the phone and run. All right. All right, so, let's see. So I think, actually, this does it again. These episodes seem to go so fast. I have such a good time to share with you all. And that does it for this episode.
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