Bachelor Happy Hour - ‘You’re My Girl’ and Another Memorable Birthday in ‘Paradise’

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

After last night’s episodes of “The Golden Bachelor” and “Bachelor in Paradise,” the emotions across Bachelor Nation are at an all-time high, and Joe and Serena are ready to discuss it all.�� On “The Golden Bachelor,” Gerry made his toughest eliminations yet, and Joe and Serena did not see it coming. They also discuss their enjoyment in seeing a new side of Faith, a subtle moment of shade from Leslie, and why Gerry was right not to give out a rose during the group date. Plus, is “You’re my girl” the Golden version of “I love you”?  Then, things are as wild as ever in “Paradise,” and Joe and Serena are fully invested in it all. As they break down last night’s episode of “Bachelor in Paradise,” they discuss how things would have been different if Davia had come down the night of the Rose Ceremony instead of Sam P., why Brayden might actually be a great match for Rachel, and why, if anyone was to have a birthday in “Paradise,” they are SO excited it’s Kat.   Be sure to follow so you never miss an episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. Welcome to Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are happy to be back. We have a great week for you.

We're going to recap Golden, which a lot went down in Golden. We're going to recap Paradise. I personally feel like Paradise is really big. up now. I'm excited to talk about that. We have a special guest, two special guests coming on this week. We have Tanner from Bachelor in Paradise, who is heavily involved in the cat drama. And then we have Sandra from Golden Bachelor, who is, I would just say I think she's delightful. Yeah, it was so great chatting with Sandra. It was sad to see her go home this week. But we will hopefully see her at the Golden and Bachelor Woman Tell All in a few weeks, which will be exciting.

And I feel like this was a really good three hours of television this week. Both episodes were really strong. Yeah, I think so too. My only issue with Sandra is she, she's a huge NFL fan in her. She doesn't have a favorite team, all 32. I feel like you need to pick a team. I feel like that's right in line with when people would ask me when I was younger who my favorite team was, which just full disclaimer, I'm not a sports fan.

whoever was winning whoever was winning i would say who's winning them they're my favorite you are a true fair weather fan i am maybe one day i'll pick a team we'll see i'm a i'll be a chicago cubs fan for you yeah you are and i'm a toronto i'm a toronto blue jays fan yeah wow and that's marriage everyone there you go all right should we get into it yeah i'm ready all right let's start off with golden bachelor we are on episode five we have six women left which i feel like they have dwindled down so fast. It went quick. Like we are only halfway through the season and we're already down to six women, which is crazy.

I was looking at the remaining six and I just like, wow, I feel like I really do feel like it was like yesterday where this thing first kicked off and everyone was going crazy that they, this is like their new favorite show and now here we are. I know. But people are still loving it. I still have people telling me like, oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with Golden Bachelor, which is totally understandable. So we have Faith, Leslie, Ellen, Trisa, Susan, and Sondra left. Who did you think was getting that one-on-one date this week? You were pretty convinced it was Faith, and I wasn't really going to argue with you there. I thought it could have been Faith.

Maybe Leslie. Oh, you thought you might get a back-to-back? Oh, yeah. No, maybe Trisa. Maybe I thought Trisa was going to get another one. A second one. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I always fall.

for the oh my god someone's like I never guess that someone's going to get a second 101 date also I was waiting maybe he was going to choose like a Susan for the one-on-one and then potentially send her home yeah yeah we didn't see him send anyone home on a one-on-one this season we didn't see a two-on-one I feel like it's just shorter amount of time could have got a two how do we not get a two-on-one with Kathy and Teresa with Kathy and Teresa yeah I know I feel like I don't want to see a two-on-one I do the golden girl I do. I do. And so does everyone else. All right. Well, let's pitch it for next season if there is one, which I very much hope there will be. So Faith gets the 101. She does a helicopter ride and they land on a yacht and she's afraid of heights. So it's a little like overcoming her fear moment, which is cute. And then they land on this beautiful boat in the middle of the sea. I feel like this is like the bachelor date. Like if you could only pit one date that represents the franchise, it's the helicopter yacht date, in my opinion. Or the, like, princess shopping game. I feel like the yachts, I feel like the yachts new.

I feel like landing on a yacht, being on a yacht, I think that's, I think their budget increased for Golden and they were able to pick up a yacht because usually it's a helicopter ride. Or a yacht. Yeah, yeah. And usually it's not even, like, this was a serious yacht. No, it was stunning. They were, like, sitting in, like, a lounge area having champagne.

And I love the clip back to the women in the house. And Leslie's, like, breaking down, like, what she wants on a date. It's basically a yacht date and then here we see. And Susan, Susan was like, maybe we'll go on a yacht for this week and that's what Faith got. Leslie is having probably the hardest time out of all the women, it seems like, with jealousy and fighting off insecurities and just like being in this open relationship. Yeah, I think she, I think she's really into Gary and then I think she also, yeah, is having a hard time. so it's a combination of both and I don't know seems like a slippery slow I also feel like Leslie like if we're comparing Leslie and Ellen like I think they're both really into Gary but Ellen seems

to be a little more like not walls up but just like cautious with her emotions whereas Leslie is like all in she's feeling all the feels like really deep I feel like Ellen is more okay with other women having a connection with Gary where Leslie isn't Leslie's like I'm ready to be the only one. Like I'm ready to cut this loose and it just be me and Gary. But back to the time on the yacht with Faith and Gary, I thought it was interesting. Faith's story's interesting because she basically opens up about being homeless as a teenager. She said she didn't have a mother and father.

And she's very happy where her life is now, but she doesn't have like the your stereotypical. child to that child yeah I know I want to Gary and maybe he did and we just didn't see it but I wanted him to ask more questions about that and you know maybe he was also just trying to respect her privacy but I would love to get her on the podcast and just get the chance to learn more about that and how we had her on the podcast I know but it was early on and now we know more and I would just love the chance to learn more about how that's kind of shaped who she is today because it's definitely a challenging upbringing it sounds like yeah And I think, I want to say, I think Susan made a comment about it as well, but faith seems to be someone who's content with kind of like living where she lives kind of off like in the mountains with her horses by herself and is comfortable in that life. But I think we're starting, I thought on that date you're seeing her open up and like. She's opening up to like love, but it also seems like she's opening up to the possibility. of like a different future and a different lifestyle than what she saw for herself. And like letting somebody else into her life. Yeah, into her life. Which I feel like she's probably been closed off to that idea for quite some time.

Definitely. Just based on what we know about her at this point. Yeah. So yeah, definitely a big vulnerable moment from Faith. And Gary says at the end of the date, you know, he comforts her and they connect over it. And he says he thinks that faith could be the one, which is a big statement. He did say that. That's the first time we've heard him kind of. disclose that about anyone. But he's also, he's also been saying, Leslie, you're my girl. Well, he says that later on in the episode. Okay. Yeah. And then she comes back from the group date. She sits down with the women and they have a little girl chat. And you can tell Leslie is in her feels because Faith is like, she's, she's considerate. She's like, I don't even know if you guys

want to know what I did. Like it was so incredible. I don't want to upset anyone. But you can tell she's excited. The women are excited for her. And Leslie. Except for Leslie. Leslie, I think Leslie is excited for her, but like she's at the point where she's like, it's hard to stay excited for the other women at this point in the show. Like, it really is. I get, I think I'm happy for you, but I'd rather that be me and you're not here. I think Leslie's feelings are valid. And I think it makes sense that she ends up getting a rose and is still there because

she has a real connection with Gary, opposed to someone like Susan who there's something there but Susan's seems to be okay like yeah she knows her connection isn't where some of the other women's connections are especially because she hasn't had that one-on-one date yet but leslie made a comment that like you know your your date sounded great but like I'm glad that I got my date because it was more like Gary and his element and like something we would do in real life versus a fantasy that's what she said first of fantasy yeah she a shade a little bit of a shady comment a little shade thrown on um on phase date from Leslie. But then we go on to the group date.

Faith has the rose so we know she's going to hometowns. That's locked in. And the group date is at the Santa Monica Pier, which is so funny because Joe and I just played this little game that's like what are the top five most common dates. Yeah, I went on a podcast this week. And what he does is, his name is Jiggy, he's a comedian. And what he does is he does like top five and like top five selling pasta sauces or top five dates and one of the top five dates is an amusement park. Yeah, or a carnival. And I was like,

there's no way that's a top five date. Like, I don't know anyone that's been on a date at a carnival. And then we go home and we turn on this episode and they're all at the pier. But Teresa says to Gary, you know, we see some one-on-one time with each of them, Susan, Sondra and him talk about missing the wedding again. And then Teresa tells Gary she's falling in love with him, which I think is But the second person that said that, Ellen was the first? Ellen, Teresa, Teresa's, Teresa is like her or not like her. She is, she's going all in. Oh, yeah.

And she's, she's moved. She knows. She's, from what I heard, she's somebody that watched the show and watches the show. And I feel like Teresa has picked up on how fast it moves. She's moving this relationship along. Like, she is pushing it forward. she's not losing momentum and like I think that's a good thing

in this environment because it does move fast so you kind of have to move with that pace or it's hard to progress the relationship yeah you kind of you have to and Teresa's doing that and I think she feels it I think it's genuine

yeah I don't think it's fake I just think she I think she's able to move at this pace like she's able to you know some people I feel I come on the show and it's just like this is just too fast for what I'm comfortable with and I don't see any ounce of that

and Teresa she's like I'm ready for this which I get a little bit of that With faith. With faith. Oh, you do? Oh, you get a little bit of the hesitantness. Yeah. Yes, I agree.

I agree. Leslie opens up to Gary about having been cheated on in the past. Yeah. And I feel like she's kind of hinted about this a little bit with her saying. She said cheated a lot. Yeah. She said a lot. And I feel like she said like Gary is the best guy she's ever been with the nicest guy, like a guy that she deserves.

Meanwhile, he's dating multiple women, which has got to be. extremely difficult for someone. I'm probably like kind of trickering for her. Yeah, who's been cheated on. Yeah. Which kind of probably also, which now validates even more of her. Why she's having such a hard time. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, I just finished three of your sentences. That's fine. Oh, please. Please. They go for it. Easier on me. So Leslie also tells Gary, I'm falling in love with you. They hug, they kiss, and you see Gary whisper to Leslie, you're my girl. Fucking Gary, better be careful. Gary better be careful with his words. Gary is throwing around a lot of you're my girl. If you're going to say you're my girl, Gary, she better be your freaking girl because that statement, if I'm in Leslie's shoes, I'm like, oh, great. So rings on my finger. I'm leaving here with this man. Let me start prepping some closet space for him in my home. Yeah.

It's a bold statement. And it's definitely telling because, you know, Faith got that 101, the rose. And he said she could be the one. and now Leslie, you've got the You're My Girl. So for me, that makes them the two front runners in this. Yeah.

And then Trisa. Teresa is right there with them. But we haven't, I feel like, seen Trisa get the same validation from Gary that Leslie and Faith have. You're right. We haven't seen it. Maybe he's done it, but we haven't seen it.

I was just thinking, but no, you are right. Well, the only thing I will say is the first time we've seen Gary angry was when Teresa told him about the way Kathy spoke to her. Yeah. And he was mad. Like he definitely had an emotional reaction to that.

So I think he really likes Teresa. I do. So do I. I think they're all up there. I'm just waiting for us to see that from him for Teresa, the same way with the other women. Ellen, it's really just a love. fest in this episode because then Ellen says I'm falling in love and I think Ellen might even be

almost in love with Gary at this point because we've already seen her say I'm falling in love I think she might be in love with him and she says you know she's very scared of losing him she's there's definitely a lot of fear with Ellen in this process we need to look back and see who our our four was because I don't I don't remember who I said before next week I'm going to check who we said our final four was and we can see how we did. I feel like my picker is is not what it used to be because I was really, really pretty sure that Ellen, Ellen was potentially it. I think I said Faith was it after the first episode.

And then I think I said Ellen at one point two. Those were kind of the top two that I thought. Yeah, I really thought he was into Ellen. But after this, I mean, obviously she goes home. But even like watching them together this episode, I was like, okay, I was, I was off. He's definitely, he's much more into other women than now. Definitely. But that also, you know, in the beginning, it could be one thing.

And then things change, right? As he spends more time with the women. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute. Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looks.

looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the psychology podcast.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So Gary didn't end up giving out a rose on the group date. He was like, I need more time, got to sleep on it, which I actually had no idea who was going to get that rose. And I think it's maybe a good thing that he didn't give it out because I feel like so many women

were vulnerable on that date. Yeah. It would have been kind of hard to give out a rose. Yeah. I don't know who he would have done. And then the rose ceremony happens and we find out only three people

are going to hometowns, which I was shocked. The women seem shocked too. I don't think they knew that. Yeah. So then who goes home? Susan. Susan.

Sandra and Ellen. Alan. If there was a fourth rose given to go to hometowns, who out of those three women do you think gets it. Ellen. So do I.

I think definitely. I think especially the way it ended with, he said goodbye to Susan and Sondra, but he walked out Ellen and sat down and had a conversation with her. And I just think that their relationship, I mean, she had a one-on-one date. I think the relationship had progressed a lot further. Yeah. And her feelings were really, really strong for him. Yeah.

So now, are we going to get, we're going to get fantasy sweets, right? Yeah. Next week we've got hometowns coming up with these three beautiful ladies. And then we're going to get. some fantasy sweets man Gary how do you not take susan into fantasy sweets joe after all are all are her great lines like you got to you got to bring her there now um yeah I don't know who he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna pick but I'm excited I don't know either I've really fought to not find out how the season ends and so far I literally have I

don't know anything so every week is just a total surprise for me I'm I'm I don't know. I think right now I'm leaning towards Leslie being the one. Yeah. For some reason, I'm leaning. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. My issue with faith is that she got the one on. Or she got the first impression rose. And they seem to have such a strong connection. But then the next time we see them together was like this episode. I know. So I feel like we're missing a lot. Yeah.

of their relationship yeah i know well we'll see i think it's going to be an exciting few episodes to come so we get into let's get into bachelor paradise our show let's do it this was a good episode a good episode a good episode a very good up the last two episodes have been really good last two have been really good this has been my favorite yet i agree um so let's see what do i got what we got first first thing we see really is hot sean and iran S are probably going home. Yeah. They're sitting. They're like we need a miracle. We need

a sign. We need something to save our asses. Here comes a miracle. Bachelor in Paradise, Canada. We get a girl down night of the row ceremony cocktail party. Sam P. comes down. Hot Sean gets his chance.

Everyone goes for her, tries talking to her, convincing her. she doesn't really I mean in her defense she gives she can basically give the rose and she's not going to find the connection you mean like you're not going to find

like your person in that amount of time no because she's just she's coming down it's probably super late at night everyone that is going after her is just people that are like desperate for a rose let's call it what it is because I've got the rose ceremony that night and I just feel like it's not the right

night for her to be able to make a solid connection. I personally I personally feel like this was the wrong move. I mean... It's also hard because, like, I would have loved to know if she had people she was interested in coming down. Do you know what I mean?

Like, it would have been more interesting. I feel like if she came down and was like, yeah, like, I actually am really interested in Aaron Ass. I'm really interested in Sean. But I feel like she came down just kind of blank slate. And it was like, here's the four guys that are available. Just pick which one. I think it would have been much...

I think it would have been better if they would have sent Davia down. because we do see Davia come down the next morning and I know Davia is there for Tanner coming down with a date card but still sending in sending her in that night you would have seen a lot of guys scramble and potentially like things would have went things could have went hang wire that night

if Davia came down yeah I know what you're saying because we know that there's a couple guys that had Davia on their list of girls they wanted to meet and if they sent her down that night I mean Tanner she was interested in Tanner she definitely would have pulled him she probably would have had to give her rose to like one of the other guys because cat would have given her rose to Tanner maybe and then or Davia gives her rose to Tanner whoever's first stepped to the podium yeah and then the next day

if they gave Davia a date card but I don't know either way it was dramatic both ways but that that would have been an interesting move okay so we see we get we get to the roast ceremony you'll just break it down Rachel goes Rachel gives her rose to brayden Eliza chooses Aaron B yeah good move eliza good move i think they have a real connection i um you know john b it seems just like a genuinely great guy i just don't think his girl was on the beach to be honest yeah and unfortunately yeah for him like maybe if he would have came down um original cast yeah it's always hard when you're coming down later on because it's like it's just a matter of if someone you're interested in is available or still there Olivia chooses John Henry over Peter I know I I wasn't totally surprised about that but I wasn't totally sure what she was going to do either yeah Mercedes chooses Tyler um one rose left and Sam P chooses Peter

I wish you I actually I was upset about this I want her to choose Sean just because I think Sean makes her great TV and I still wanted him on the beach yeah to potentially be upset about this I want her to choose Sean just because I think Sean makes her great TV and I still wanted him on the beach yeah to potentially shoot another shot at Jess. He does bring a lot to the show. He brings more to the show than Peter does just because he's a very big personality and he's all over the place on that beach. But we did say goodbye to Sean, Will, and Aaron S. Yeah. Which is sad, but it was just their time to go.

Yeah. Unfortunately for Aaron S, it may have just been better if he would have left with Sam, the original Sam. and just yeah but i mean he could still reach out to her once he leaves i feel like i actually would love to know if he did reach out to her after she left how about how about will we do have to talk about will for a quick second well well he had a tough time he had a really rough go in paradise it was not yeah i mean he was hopping around just against his well you know like it was like first it was olivia then it was kiley then it was mercedes then it was just lonely well yeah you said it perfectly against as well.

Like we usually see one guy who doesn't go that far on their season, come down, hop around and screw things up, hop around on their own, but truly will. No, he was like, he was into Olivia. Then Kylie got asked him on the date. He was like all in on Kylie. Then she wasn't in. And then he was all in on Mercedes. He was like crying on her shoulder.

And then she went on a date with someone else. Like he just couldn't stick the landing, unfortunately. you think Will goes back on? Maybe. I wouldn't be surprised to see him again. I feel like he's a good fit for Paradise. I think Will, Will,

to me, is ready for a relationship. And I think a lot of women are going to see that and slide into his DMs. And I don't think, you don't think he'll be single by next year. Yeah, I don't think it's going to take much to lock down Willie Boy. So I think he's going to be,

I would bet Will's probably engaged by Paradise this year. Oh, really? yeah yeah that's crazy that's a crazy prediction but maybe okay so now we got which love when this lines up it's always great it's cat's birthday of all the people that could have had a birthday on this beach i'm so happy it's cat yeah because she is clearly a big birthday gal and she's going to make the most of it and unfortunately she's got not a lot to work with because she's got a bad day ahead of her. Oh yeah. We'll get into that because that's the fun part of the episode.

We'll cut to Rachel gets day card. Saw that come in. She asked Braden. They go on a pinata date. They're cute together. They work. They actually have a genuine connection. You can really see it. Like I don't know how far it goes or how romantic it is, but I know we saw them at Charity's finale. Yeah. And they were sitting

next to each other. And like, I was not able to tell if there was like a romantic relationship or if it was a friendship or what but they definitely were laughing the whole time they were dancing they were dancing they were like having a really good time rachel seemed really happy brayden is just like a ball of energy he was having fun so there is without a doubt a connection between them yeah and rachel just seemed like so happy on this date like it was really nice to see her on a date just having a ton of fun you think it gets serious i think it could get serious i would i would actually like it to get serious

Me too. Because it doesn't feel super forced and it feels like a fit. He's her type too. Like Rachel loves the whole like earrings, painted bales, tats, all that vibe. They look good together. Yeah. Like Rachel and Hotchon didn't look good together. No.

Her and Brayden definitely just feel like a better fit. Yeah. Okay. So now. She seems super into him though. I'm curious to see if he is into her because they didn't show as much of his expression. his, sorry, not his expression, his interviews about her. Yeah, see, I think it's hard to tell when Braden's really into someone because, like you said, he's a ball of energy and he's always going to be a good time.

So even if Braden isn't that into you, I think he's going to go on a date and it's still going to, you're still going to have a lot of fun. Yes, I agree. It's not like he, he's just charismatic and like personable and higher energy across the board. So it's harder to differentiate when it's just like, yeah, I like this person, but I'm just having the best time. and like, yeah, I'm really into this person and I'm just having the best time. Yep. Okay, so Davia's here.

Davia comes down, which is great. Jesus. All the girls are freaking out. She's stunning. She looks, yes. She's got a hair cut. Not that it looked bad before, but she looks good. Yeah, she looks insane.

Something I said to you, what she came down is she was, she's very confident. Very confident. Yeah, not obnoxious, but like you could just tell the way she's like greeting everybody um she's comfortable like speaking in front of everyone yeah she's just like yeah she's she's she's doing pretty well she grabs tanner first um cats instantly freaking out um and they talk tanner seems to be like yeah i will go on the state which it's still pretty new for cat and tanner i mean look at this point from what we've seen

Braden and Kat were together for like three days, right? Or Braden and Kat were together for week one. Yeah. And they had a roast ceremony and then the following week, Kat went on a date with someone else. Yeah. It was Tanner. Tanner and Kat have been together for one week. Now Tanner might go on the date with someone else. One week in Paradise is a lot of time, but it's not a lot of time. And unless you have a conversation of being exclusive, you have to kind of assume that people are still open to going on dates. It doesn't seem like Kat and Tanner were locked in on each other, like they weren't going to explore other options. It's still pretty new.

I don't think Tanner's doing anything wrong. And because it's your birthday, like that. Well, he can't be like, I'm super into this girl, but like this date falls on your birthday. So I won't go. I won't do it. Like, I don't know. It's so hard. What I've learned in my life, especially with women, is everyone has a different feeling towards their birthday.

Like, I have friends where their birthday is a really big deal to that. It's really important. I would. And then I have friends who are like, I don't really care. It's just another day. Whatever. Cat is a birthday gal. So this is obviously a big issue for her.

But I don't. I think Tanner would have been making a mistake not going on the date. 100%. 100%. Well, Davia comes back and basically says, I don't need to talk to anyone else. Another confident. I know.

She was, I'm trying to be intentional. I had one good combo. I'm into it. Let's go. I loved it. I loved it. She asked Tanner. He says yes.

And then before, I mean, he could have pulled. he said yes but does that really matter no he okay wait yes he did pull cat but he said yes and then he pulled cat right yes okay you know what i'm saying so he said i would love to go on the day i'd love to go on the day but can i talk to cat he didn't say put a pin in it let me go talk to cat now i don't think you needed to no because at the end of the day if he wasn't going to ask cat for her permission yeah there's no need to talk to her before giving an answer he's basically saying I'm going to go on this date

whether you like it or not, but I want to do the respectful thing and have a discussion with you about it. And Kat's upset, which, which she could be. She should be. Yeah, she's into him. There's nothing, there's nothing around being upset. I mean, but you know,

her being upset at Tanner for doing it is, is. It's looking very hypocritical. Yeah. I mean, she literally did the same thing to Brayden. And I don't know if she talked to Brayden is, from a viewer's standpoint, we don't see her talking to Brayden before she goes on a date with Tanner. And Tanner at least did that.

But really like... No, she did this exact same thing to Brayden. For her to be like freaking out and like kind of getting so mad at Tanner at this, whatever you, like a betrayal or whatever she feels like it may be is kind of the definition of being a hypocrite. And I don't know if she sees that or not. I don't know if she feels like maybe her connection with Tanner has been a lot stronger and more serious than with Brayden. I mean, with Brayden, she was saying in the truth circle, like, I'm still looking at a date of people. Yeah, that's why I said. I don't think she did anything wrong by going on a date with Tanner and leaving Brayden.

The only thing that she did wrong in that scenario, it seemed like she got upset for Brayden getting upset, which is like if Tanner got upset at her for being upset. Yeah, like you're just mad because. they're mad at you. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, and this is her boyfriend's former professor

and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I don't, I don't know. I don't think Kat's anything wrong with going on a date with Tanner. She could have had a conversation with Braden would have been the only big change up front there. And I don't think Karen did anything wrong going on a date with Davia. The only time you do anything wrong by going on a date with somebody else in paradise is if you guys are exclusive and then you break the exclusivity. That's what it's wrong.

Other than that, this is the way the show works. And it's totally valid for Kat to be upset. It is her birthday. She is really into Tanner. And now competition just walks down and takes him on a date. So Kat has every right to feel sad and upset. But she can't really be mad at Tanner. And she kind of has to be okay with it because she did it.

Yeah. She's got to take it on the chin. She's just got to be like this sucks. But like I, she has to have a little perspective and understand that. you know have some understanding for tanner and why he made the decision and we see like er and b that takes the interview he's like yeah i don't i don't feel bad for cat at all this is exactly the arabi is cold sometimes yeah i like his interviews he's uh yeah he's been really uh he takes the hard stance on every situation which i like yeah um so we see tanner and davy are hitting

it off on the date um brittan and rachel get back they seem to be really happy um and then then cat you know we see her she gets a pinata and she takes out her her anger um at the pinata which good good for her let it out girlfriend she needs a release because she's using yelling in her interviews as the current release and i don't think it's doing much she needs some physical activity to burn off this frustration and anxiety she seems to be feeling yeah and in and she's going to get a lot of hate like cat's probably getting a lot of hate yeah And she's going to get a lot of hate for, like, yelling in our interviews and stuff. But, you know, for people back at home, like, that is a time for you to kind of let your emotions run a little while.

Yeah, I mean, interviews when you're there can sometimes feel like therapy. And it's just like a space where you're in a room and it's private with a producer. I mean, obviously it's not that private. You're on camera. But it's she's using her interviews to just vent. Like she's venting to a friend on a phone. And I saw Ria and Fran on chicken. in the office say this and I just thought it was you know I agreed with them they're like watching

cat has really showed me the importance of regulating my emotions and being able to just take a breath and find a different outlet for your rage versus screaming interviews yeah yeah well hopefully she doesn't get too much hate and if you're listening to this probably just you know give her a little grace um okay we have the truth or dare section yeah yeah that's what i want to bring out the truth this another truth moment so this cast has just clearly been keeping too much in and i think we're seeing that i feel like everyone on the show has truly not everyone but majority of the cast has really been playing it safe um and now we're starting to see this this kind of crumble it's crazy because they'll play it safe but you throw a game in their face and they're like sure yeah we can't

Can't lie. All bets are off. We'll just tell you everything. We'll make out with each other. Can't lie here. So first thing, Piley P kisses Kylie really weird. Yeah,

really weird. Really weird. Because I know it was a dare, but like she's like locked in with Avin. He's like sitting next to her. If that was you and me and they were like so and so on our season, like kiss Rina, I'd be like,

please don't. Like no offense, but like please, please don't. It was such an awkward moment. Mercedes and John Henry go at it. They make out. They make out like yeah they they they're I thought she was with Tyler Norris but maybe it's not that serious and then you see Olivia and now Olivia's

feeling jelly yeah yep yep and then um the big question the big thing and and in this truther dare section is a question gets asked to Jess is Blake you're number one and we see Jess like really like she doesn't answer it and I we haven't really seen her give any definitive answers this entire time in paradise um she kind of skates around it two things that just should never be are a poker player or a politician because girl has no game face like even when we see it with Sean like she gets really nervous yeah being asked these direct questions and like you can tell she doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings but like she's a nice she's a nice person and I think that's I think that's the hard thing for...

And she, like, wants to be an honest person, which doesn't want to hurt people. Yeah. And I think that's been the hard thing for Jess is she doesn't want to hurt anyone. And I think the issue, I think what has been going on is guys have come down and they see Jess is talking to Blake and they basically don't want to... Stop on Blake's toes. Compete with Blake.

Yeah. So they're not. And then what happens is one of Jess's friends ends up going on a date with somebody that she is also into. and now she feels like, well, I don't want to step on one of my friend's toes. So I'm kind of stuck. Yeah. No, she is stuck because I totally agree with what you're saying.

Like, I think she, her only way to kind of explore other options, the easiest way when you're in paradise to explore other options is to be asked on a date. It's not easy to just start like flirting with another guy at the bar or like take a walk to a day bed with another guy on the beach because that's really awkward. The easiest way is for someone to come down. that you're interested in and ask you on a date and you can have like private time to get to know them away from the person you're already connecting with. And Jess, I think, has wanted that for herself. She wanted Tanner to ask her on a date. I think she might have wanted John Henry to ask

her on a date. And I think either they're not feeling the connection with her, like you said, they don't want to complete with Blake and they're not asking her. And she's like, I want to explore options. I'm not certain about Blake. I don't think she's all in on him at all. She's not. She's not and but she hasn't been given the opportunity to explore other options so she's kind of in this place where she's like do I just like lock in with Blake now or do I call it off because like you can really only be open in Paradise for so long before it kind of gets to a point where it's like this is a little weird and now it's it's pretty it's getting to that point in the show where like you you kind of have to make that decision yeah because I think when she said like

her big thing she's like I haven't done anything for myself and I was kind of like what like what do you mean you haven't done anything for yourself but i think that's exactly it she wants to explore and she hasn't and if i'm blake and you say that to me i have i'm like uh i like that's i'd feel it kind of like a charity case yeah i don't know i absolutely hate that and i don't i think blake handled it really well he said um he said to her like now i feel i need to give you space. I'm going to give you space, which was the right thing to do. And the only thing he could have done. A hundred percent. Because at this point, like, if he grabs on tighter, it's just going to get more awkward. I don't think he wants to end it with her. I think he's interested. But like, yeah,

it's really the only option is like, I'm going to give you space. Go explore. Like, it's almost permission for her to like, go pursue other guys. And then, and now, and now what's, what's Blake supposed to do is he going to explore something else? We'll see how Jesse handles it. Maybe. Maybe Maybe if Blake goes on a date with another girl, Jess, you know, gets a little jealous and thinks, oh, maybe I was more into this guy then. That would be the worst thing either if he gets asked on a date by someone. Yeah, that's probably the best case scenario. Gives her some space on the beach to see what's down there for her. Yeah, we see, we'll talk about the super teaser at the end, but we do see Kat and Davia have a talk about Tanner, which was, it seemed a little too soon to even have that conversation.

I feel like the combo that needed to be had was between Kat and Tanner. And I think Davy had jumped the gun pulling Cat aside. I think she was trying to be proactive and I think she should have waited. And we'll see that conversation next week because Tanner pulls Cat. We also see the super teaser where we see Cat going after John Henry. So we can assume Davy and Tanner are going strong. Cat is a free agent again. And who said she was homie hopping?

I don't know. But that's a decent way to describe it. I mean, hey, the good thing with Kat is like, yet we have not seen her be like, I'm leaving. I don't have a connection. Like, she's on to the next. Like, she's still looking for love. She's persistent. And then the only other thing we see, the biggest thing I think we see is Jess and Tyler make out.

Yeah. Which kind of answers my question earlier of like how serious are Tyler and Mercedes if she's like making out with someone on the daybed in front of him? I don't think they're serious. like they're that serious. So I'm sad for Blake, but I'm also happy for him and Jess. I feel like this needed to happen. Like she needed to go. Oh, 100%. Or like she's going to, they're just going to either break up at the end or leave in a relationship and not be fully committed and break up in the real world. So I think this is what has to be done. And yeah, that I think that that wraps our recap. Thank you everyone for listening.

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