Bachelor Happy Hour - Youth, Love, and Breakups with Sarafiena! | Golden Hour

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re sitting down with Sarafiena from Grant’s season of “The Bachelor”! We kick off the episode getting into all things Sarafiena, from how she got on the show to experiencing her elimination in real time to her thoughts on the finale and so much more. Then, she helps dish out some advice, starting with our question of the day: Is going through a partner’s phone ever justified? She also helps answer our most-asked questions, like how to find real friends in your youth. Plus, Sarafiena picks Kathy and Susan’s brains on “Paradise” speculation, advice about entering your 30s, and more. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamel Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts, Politics. On this week's episode, I'm joined by all-time great Hooper and basketball analyst Candace Parker, who gives insight into her candid new book, including why she waited two years into marriage to come out. I never envisioned being with a woman. I'll just be honest.

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Listen to therapy for black girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks so much for joining us today. As always, I am so excited to be with you today, Susan. How are you doing? I feel the same because we love doing this. make sure you've checked out all our latest episodes because we have had some great guests,

some great questions, and we love hearing from you. Do not, do not, PESCO, without answering, asking us questions. We love hearing from you. Today, we have, I always say a very special guest, but she really is, she really is a special guest. please welcome from grant season, Serafina. Serafina, welcome to Golden Hour. We're so happy to have you. How are you today?

Thanks, guys. I'm so excited to be here. I've been waiting all day. I'm such big fan, so I'm so excited. Oh, if only you were a man and over 60, we'd be so excited. Honestly, same. Kathy, she's as beautiful as she was on the stuff. I'm telling you.

Thank you, guys. Sarahfina, a few questions. First of all, Susan's right. are absolutely stunningly beautiful. And I got to say this, I think Grant has had the most gorgeous women, and you're one of them on his season. The poor guy must have just tortured him, but you are lovely. Thank you so much.

No, I have to agree this group of women, I mean, every season, but this group of women just like, not only beautiful, but like so accomplished, great jobs, like, just like 10 out the tens across the board, like, such great women. Okay, so I have a question before we get started. You live in New York City. You said the East Village. Where are you from originally? So I was actually born in New York and then my family moved to Connecticut when I was about 13. I went to college in New York and then I moved to New York City maybe two or three years after college. So like I'm very East Coast. Very. So am I. I can hear it in the accent. I can hear Well, I'm actually from the same hometown as Juliana, believe it or not.

Oh, really? The exact same hometown. Did you go to Syracuse? I did go to Syracuse. I do my homework. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Well, I grew up in Boston, and I just want to know, are you a lacrosse fan?

Because Syracuse has some great, okay. No, no, that's a name, but I'm a fan of their work. I'm happy to talk about the pizza in New York. Oh. No, no, no. Okay, so one thing, and I said this is on my quiz, the pizza in New York is not good. I don't think it's the best. The pizza in New England, the pizza in New England in Connecticut is amazing.

Like, best pizza. They are pretty good pizza in Massachusetts, too. How is the crust is what I want to know? In New York or in Connecticut. No, where you're saying it's good. So there's many variations. There's like a thin crust. There's also what, I'm a really big pizza connoisseur.

There's wood oven pizza. Then there's like a really thin slices. Also, if you're ever in Stanford, Connecticut, there's a place called Quality Grill. And it's very, very thin pizza. It's amazing. And get the hot oil. Thin, greasy with the side of the chips. We're related.

Yeah, it's so greasy. Like, it's dripping down your hands. Like, if it's not dripping on your hands, like, it's not good pizza. I love it. Okay, one other question before we get started. I think your name is as beautiful as you are. No. This is just the preamble, Serafina.

We're going to get into it. But where does your name come from? Because it's a beautiful name. Thank you so much. Tell me, like, where did that come from? Obviously, your parents. Her mom and dad. I said, obviously, her parents.

Is it a family name? No, it's from a movie. It's a movie called Serafina. It's also Italian. It's Greek. So it has, like, very far roots. But, yeah, it's like based off of a movie that my dad saw. And then he picked my name.

my sister's name from the same movie. What's your sister's name? My sister's name is Bentah. Bentah? Yeah. God, gorgeous names. So we all had like very, we, yeah, school was hard. Middle school was hard.

Yeah, I'm sure they were like, S-A-R-A-F-I-N-A, no, wrong. Yeah, it sounds very different. Some of the, when you had to answer the 20 questions I was reviewing and it's like, oh my gosh, we match in so many ways. The devil wears Prada. How many times you love me? Yes, I love that. Yeah, so good.

Yeah, yeah. I can relate to you. And, of course, my Kardashians. Oh, yes. I can quote, I can quote the devil is proud of, like, front to back. All right. Now we're going to dig in here, Pena. I'm excited.

Yes, I'm excited. I'm ready. Okay. What was your dating life like prior to the show? Non-existent. I didn't date anymore. Oh, we have season. I'm telling you.

Susan, she and I are related. Yeah, we are one in the same, non-existent. I hadn't had a boyfriend for six years. Get out. Yeah, he dumped me. Yeah. He's a fool. What's his name?

What's his name? I won't say his name. Okay. I want to make his name up. John, you are a fool. What do you think your experience on that show taught you about you? Oh, I say this all the time, but I feel like, like my ability to be a lot more vulnerable.

I feel like because I hadn't been in a relationship for so long, I was so afraid to open up to people and so afraid to like, you know, take a chance. And I think this is the biggest leap of faith. I mean, you guys know, it's like you like someone, but he likes 24 other women. And I was so much of myself and I shared things that I think a lot of my friends at

home didn't even know about me. And I'm just so much more open now and so confident. And then I felt so, I feel like I felt so confident going on to the show. And then after I just like, I gained such a new level of confidence that I don't even think was possible. Can I just say I really feel like I felt that about you and I think America felt that about you. You seemed just, you know, it's hard to be, as you know, it's hard to be yourself and let loose and be your authentic self. But I think you really did a good job of it. Thank you so much.

I mean, so much. So what was the most memorable moment for you? Oh, I feel like jumping off the bridge. Okay, was that bungee jumping, right? I guess. Okay, so I don't know what it was, but that was scary. Yeah, so I've had people reach out to me and say, that's not bunchy jumping.

So I don't know, but I jumped off of, I mean, she pushed. I love it when you said I literally jumped off a bridge for a guy. I love that. Yes, yes. But I have a question, did you, when you jumped off, like, was your next, this is like, totally off the subject, but, like, was your next stable? Like, I would be so afraid that I, I don't even remember. I really don't. I just like, so we were harnessed together, like, so I had to hold on to him and then she pushed us off. So, like, people are all like, like, did your heads bump together? I was like, I don't think so. We were in helmets, too. So I think it was fine.

You were in La La Land. I was so in love. Oh, were you in love at that point? Wait, were you in love at that point? I think there was a lot of adrenaline. I think, like I say it like jokingly, but yes, I think there was a lot of adrenaline. I think I really started to have strong feelings for him at this point. And I was just like, you know what?

Like this is something that I don't think I will ever do with someone again or, you know, in this situation. You mean, you don't wake up saying. You know what? I think I'll jump off a bridge today. Yeah, with a guy that's like dating. Exactly. Yeah. No, no, no, no. So let me ask you, were you surprised when you didn't get that rose that night? Was it shocking or did you have a feeling?

No, I was absolutely shocked. So was I. Yeah, I think things were going in what I felt were such like a positive direction. And I had received so much like affirmation from him leading up to the weeks and then also just like leading up to going into hometown. So I, maybe, you know, people are in my DM saying, you should have known, whatever. But in my heart, and I knew what I heard.

And I mean, it is, it happened, everything happens for a reason. And you believe that, but let's just touch base for one little minute on the DMs. Don't feel like you're the only one. Yeah. I mean, it's ugly. There's a lot of ugly people out there and it's just sad. Yeah. It is.

And, like, that is also something I learned from the show in terms of confidence. I've also become just so much stronger because people will tell you left and right so many things about yourself and, like, who you are based off of 15 minutes of, like, a month. And it's like, okay, I'm so sorry that you caught me at my worst moment after I'm, like, tired and hungry and stress. And imagine being in a situation where you really like someone and he's dating other people. Like, please tell me that you would, you would have moments where you're a little bit cranky. Like, we're on. Susan and I say all the time, Serafina, we knew pretty early on that Gary wasn't our guy. We were buddies, though.

No, we were friends. I'm saying we were in the friend zone really quickly. So it allowed us to really be ourselves, have fun with each other. You know, you weren't in that situation. But when you were standing there, so I kind of knew I was going home. Like, you know, I'd run. Well, Kathy was doing me and Nancy, we thought we were. Right. So when you went, when you were standing there at the rose ceremony, literally what was going through your mind? Were you like, I've got this. I'm, I'm, what was going through your head? Okay. So we were in a castle in Scotland and we, so for many people who don't know, it's like when you have road ceremonies, you like, you kind of stay there for a little bit. You stand there first. Yeah. So it's long. It's long. And it's like, it's like, it's so cold because it was night. And I think it was like, it was like maybe like 30 degrees. You know, I have no sleeves.

So I'm just like, oh, like, I can't wait to get my rose. I could just go back to bed. I was like, I had laundry. I was like, I'm going to do my laundry in the morning. I also, like, I didn't do my nails. So I usually have my nails done for every row ceremony. I didn't have nails on. I was like, I'll just do it, like, right before I go to my hometown.

And like, whatever. I was so. My heart is breaking. I was so confident. In your mind when you didn't get it, like, were you? Oh, God, now I got to walk up there. I got to say goodbye. I was just like, so it's a feeling where you can't explain.

I felt like my bubble popped. I was like, oh, okay. I'm going home, but like not in the way that I thought I was. So yeah, that was really hard. It's a surreal moment. Like I had no idea, no idea at all. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra crap. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I never envision being with a woman.

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you get your podcasts how are things been for you since the show so good like i just came off for a trip um with a few of the girls priest and i it was her birthday uh a week ago where'd you We went to Miami. Who else was there? Who else was there? Miami. It was me, Parisa, Kelsey, and then Ali Joe. I know you guys met with Allie Joe also.

And Teresa, love them. Love. Love, love, love. And then I feel like Allie Joe is such your vibe. Like, I'm sure you had the best time. We're all these close girls. We're all these girls. Yeah, it's a week quick.

And then we, so in the same breath, we went to L.A. for AFR. and then Parisa and I then went to Chicago to see Dina and then Latia was also there. So like a really big girls' beef. So wait, I love this because Susan and I, Susan, Nancy and I are really good friends and Joan and Leslie. There's a group of us that we really love. But it sounds like your group is even bigger.

Who are your girls? So I would say Latia, Dina, Prisa, I love Bailey, I love Zoe. I've grown to love Ali Joe, we just like kind of connects it more in L.A. and then in Miami, like, just like so, I feel like I can go down the list. I feel like with every single girl, I can like, there's something. But I would say like the people that I talk to mainly every day are like those girls. Oh, it's, don't you love the friendships? Like, did you ever expect that? No, I did not expect to click with so many girls. Oh, also Alicia. I've loved her since day one. She was like also a girl that like I connected with. day one. I just texted her this. I mean, it takes a lot of courage when you're accepted. Okay, I'm going on the show. I know nobody. Yeah. Yeah. I have no contact with the outside world. And in your mind, that first night is like, whoa. Yeah. And then those girls like just become

your family. It was like, I'm sure you guys know. It's like when you're in the house, you're like, where's Alicia? I need to speak. Like, it's just like you get breakfast together. You wake up together. You go to sleep together. Like the group dates are honestly like, oh, yeah, my grant's there. I know that sounds bad, but it's like, oh, yeah, Greg, come on. Yeah. Do you have any regrets? Anything what you've done that you would have changed from the show? Anything that you wish you could take back? No, nothing. Like, even the good. That's what we said. I swear to God, it's the Northeast thing.

We are who we are. We don't regret who we are. We don't explain who we are. You just see what you see is what you get, right? Exactly. And I think that's the main thing. It's like, I said this the other day. I was like, I feel like people don't get East Coast humor. Like, I live in Austin, Texas, where everybody is so southern and sweet. And they're like, where the hell did she come from? So trust me, I need to move back to the Northeast. Okay, wait, I have a really important. Damn Yankees.

Damn Yankees. Okay, would you go on Bachelor in Paradise? I would. I am not like, I don't know with a boyfriend, but I would go for one person, yes. Who, spill, spill that tea? I can't tell you guys. I feel like I want to keep it a secret for now. I'll tell you guys, like, off after, but.

Okay. Yes. Listen, if we get to go, we don't know yet. If we get to go, we can make it happen. Oh, yeah. Also, we need to, like, all link up together. Okay. I can't.

We may wing them in to each other. We haven't been invited yet, Sarah Pina. So if it is the case, you need to tell us, we'll make sure he's there. Okay, perfect, perfect. Oh, no, Susan, you and I, you and I can make this happen. We're going to make it happen for you. Serafina. You deserve it. I know. I want a redemption. I want to find my loves. I like want this to be a good

experience. Okay, wait. Can I just say I'm older than you? So get in line behind me. I want the same thing. We'll help each other. We'll help each other. Oh, have you had been any dates since the show? Yeah, I've been on dates. Yeah, I've been on dates. Did you get a lot of DMs? No, I did not get a lot of DMs. I get fans from like college girls, like love you guys. where are like the athletes where like where the business like I want those yeah you know New York is a hard place to meet men you know that my daughter used to work in New York and she left because she said and you know she's happily married now but she said it was really

hard to get men that were serious about dating in New York yeah there was an article that was like New York is the toughest place to date in the country yeah number one worst place to Well, you can add, you can add Francisco, Virginia. You can add the whole of us. Regarding the show, again, what is your take in a word or a sentence or two of the finale?

Oh my God, I was just going to ask for that. Where are you really? No, that's exactly where I want. Tell us. Jaw-dropping is what I will say about the finale. I mean, Latia is my girl. like everyone will know that but I also love Juliana I think it's like yeah I think it's twofold it's like what the internet is like and this is this goes back to social media it's

like we need to like lift we can lift someone up without knocking someone down wait say that again say that again for everyone to hear we can lift someone up without knocking someone down we can always root for Latia but yeah let's clap for that we're clapping for that But that doesn't mean that we, you know, like down, I'm trying to make it appropriate. But like, you know, go down on a relationship that is Juliana and Grant. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We can still be, I'm like Latvia's number one fan.

I'm such a big supporter of her, but I will never say anything bad about Juliana and her relationship. She's adorable. But for me, watching the show and following, we thought it was Latia. Yeah. I mean, obviously, yeah. Juliana is always a frontrunner of my eyes because I loved her, but I really thought, and I was a little bit shocked, I guess. I think a lot of people were shocked and, like, I'm trying to, you know,

but I think a lot of people were shocked. Oh, I'm so happy for it. You know what? I have to say, and I've said a million times, and Bachelor's sick of hearing it, like I was always rooting for Juliana just because we're from the same hometown, New Massachusetts. Having said that, we all know that the way you get an edit,

and what goes on behind the scenes, right? As viewers, we only see what they want us to see. And so you and I and Susan, we all know there's lots of conversations off camera. There's lots of things that happen, right? Yeah. And I really feel like I should be so lucky to have two men in love with me at the same time. Yeah, honestly. I'll take one.

But I think it's, you're absolutely right. They're both lovely girls. You're all lovely girls. You all women, not girls. You're women. And you all deserve love. And it is part of the show. We will find it.

Yeah. We will find it. And then one thing I want to stand a Latia peace for just like anyone that's saying anything about her, about the way that she handled things. First of all, she handled things perfectly. She stood up for herself. And then she also spoke her mind. As hurt as she was and as blindsided, just she was in that moment.

I've never seen someone articulate themselves and their feelings. so beautifully. And gracefully. And gracefully. And I would love to see it. It's like you felt validated the entire time and you felt so confident going into an engagement. I would love to see how you handle that situation. So anything, say anything about her online. Please put yourself into there in your her shoes. That's right. Oh my God. I'm snapping again. Talking about me in a bikini. Put them in a hat. Yeah. Yeah. So Fina, let me just say I have to, I've said this, you know, we've interviewed, um, some of the women from, from, from, grant season. I don't know if it's just that I'm getting old and sappy or what the hell is going

on here. But I am, and I'm being honest, because people who know me know I, I'm Northeastern or I say what I think. I'm blown away and by your maturity, your gracefulness, your understanding, your empathy of what other women have gone through. It is, it just is so heartwarming to see women who have grown up in a very different time than Susan and I grew up, just having this amazing ability to understand. Not only that, the way you handled the hard parts. Thank you. To the person and you let her know what was happening in your world. You know what I mean? This is what I see. But you did it very nice. Thank you so much, guys. That means so much. Yeah. I think, like, it's so important to understand that we, at the end of the day, are not characters on a television show.

We are real human beings and, like, we're going through emotions and we're putting ourselves out there for your entertainment. So it's like, have grace. But that's the thing. That's the thing for me, Saratina. You said it on the one hand, we are there for entertainment. And on the other hand, we are real people with real emotions. And both can be true at the same time. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. So wait, I have a funny question now because I love. Because I just, okay. So people compare you a lot to charity and think you're twins. I want to hear. What's the deal? What? Tell me about that. And we love there. I love her. So we took a video. We like we, Katie Bigger also took a Instagram story and so many DMs of everyone being like you guys look like twins. And I've I've heard it like before I went on the show during the show like that is just nice. It's a complex. Like.

It is. Well, it's a compliment to both of you. Wait, it's a compliment to both of you because you're both equally beautiful. How tall are you, Serafina? I'm five seven. Oh, so you're, okay. So Charity is a lot shorter. I know. And, and Charity and I did, we emceived Teresa and Gary's wedding along with Jesse Palmer. Oh, no. It was iconic in that when they said, you're going to do it with Charity. I said, and I didn't know. charity very well at the time. And I went, you mean that tiny, gorgeous thing? You're going to make me stand next to her? He's like a Polly Pocket. Yeah, exactly. I mean, like, I'm almost five, eight, and she's like, you know, four, six. I mean, it's just, do you remember going to dancing with the stars when she was performing and we got to hug her? I said, oh, my God, I feel like I'm going to break her. I was like, I didn't realize how tiny she was. Yeah.

Oh, well, I just it, but I mean, it's a compliment. Let me just say to both of you, because, because you're both absolutely stunningly beautiful women. Oh, thank you so much. I love you guys. This is so fun. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Jamil Hill, host of the Sports and Politics Podcasts Politics. And on the latest episode of Politics, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries joins me for a candid conversation about the state of the Democratic Party. What do Republicans say to you privately that they won't say publicly? Many of them are in fear of their political lives, and that's been part of the challenge.

But we continue to say to them, you were elected to defend your constituents, to stand up for your constituents. and there's life after Congress. And you should be willing to actually want to be able to look back on your time in the House of Representatives knowing that you can keep your head held high because you did the right thing. Donald Trump is gone in three and a half years. But their legacy or their failure to stand up to the extremism and the unprecedented assault on America as we know it will be with them forever. Make sure to listen to Spolitics on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Pop.

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your podcast we have what we call the question of the day and then we have some advice and we'd like you to give your point of view if you know all right go with the question of day susan go for it is do you think going through someone's phone is ever justified and why or why not no i don't going i don't think going through someone's phone is ever justified i always say like first of all if you are dating someone that you feel like you have to go through their phone like that's something someone that you should not be dating yeah like i don't think i've ever gone through a boyfriend's phone because i felt like i've never had to um so yeah i would say don't go through

their phone i don't want anyone going through my phone but i don't have anything died so i don't know gone through a phone gap? Yep, one time. I will tell you only one time. And he gave me reason to believe that there was something going on. We were on a trip and I said, he said something. Anyway, he got in the shower and I picked up his phone and there were all these messages on a dating app. And I didn't say anything to him at the time. But that was the first. well actually I did when we got home and he said well they reached out to me I didn't him and and that to me was the beginning of the end I mean I broke up with him like you know a few weeks later but I just felt it and I guess what I would say is if you feel it you really don't need

to confirm that yeah yeah you got to remember I was married out of the cradle so I didn't know and when you do it and see it it's like yeah yeah like why why I hurt your own feelings. Yeah. Just, you know, show them the door and move on. Exactly. Yeah. What about you, Susan?

Have you done it? I definitely have. And for good reason, and that was right. Yeah, sometimes you're just bored. Just want to let's go to someone. Yeah, exactly. So these are some of the most commonly asked questions, and we want to know your advice for our listeners.

I'll start with the first one. For women that suspect their partner is cheating. What advice do you have? for women who suspect their partner's cheating if you have that inclination he probably is but like advice like what they should do I would probably say confront them

like if you really feel in your heart like there's nothing more than a woman's intuition so it's like if you feel that way confront them and never say if he is cheating is what I will say because I think so you would not forgive a cheater. I would not forgive a cheater because it's just like going down the line, I feel like I would continue to feel more insecure. I would be like, okay, well, is he still cheating?

Like, is he still seeing as strong? Like, yeah, it's just like, I wouldn't feel good in my heart. And I'm so big on like a love story. And like when I have children, I want my, my children to know, like, this was the most secure relationship I've ever been in my life. And like, I just, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I feel good being like, yeah, your dad cheated when we're 15. Yeah. So, so. So, so. So, either of you had kids and you found that he cheated on you once, he's out the door. Oh, if we have kids, I feel like it's a little bit different, but yeah, I think the kids would definitely change things.

It's messy. Yeah, but I would say at my age now, I don't think I would just like, I don't think I would continue a boyfriend as a cheater. Yeah, good for you. You made a statement, Sarah, you know, that if you think they usually are, but there's such insecure women that will assume you think the worst and they're really not. So they're, you know, small percentage. That's true.

Yeah. If you're feeling something, you've got to go look into it. A thousand percent. I would say always just, you know, do your digging. All right. Well, how about advice for this? For friends that really dislike their best friend's boyfriend. Friends that dislike their best friend's boyfriend.

Like, if I were the friend and I hate, needed my best friend's boyfriend. Correct. Oh, I've been in that position so many times. Yeah. The thing is, it's like, I'm a very much, like, if you like it, I love it kind of person. Like, if you love this fan and, like, he is good to you, like, go for it. Like, I will never stop it.

But if he's a bad person to everyone, including you, like, you need to dump him. Because, like, your friend that? Um, yes, I would say if he is like, if he is a terrible person to her, I will a thousand percent and say, like, this is not the person for you. Like, you need, you need and you deserve so much better. But if it's just like, you know, I don't like him in terms of like, like, I don't like the way he's the two dresses or like something that bugs me. Like, you know what?

Go for it. Like, that's your man. Like, good luck, right? Yeah, I don't have to live with him. Yeah. Wow. Okay. How about for young girls that are trying to figure out who their real friends are?

Oh, that is so hard. That's, that's, how do you say that in. sense. I can tell you, wait, that's just called part of growing day. They have to learn. Yes. You can't give that advice. They have to learn. No, and I've learned so much through life. And I would say, like, even I have gained lifelong friends from girls. I've known for two months from the show. And it's in comparison as my friends that I've known for 15 years. It's the friends that, like, if you call them at three in the morning, they will answer and be there in a second. Like, those are like the kind of friendships I value.

so much. And, like, girls, you can, like, pick up the phone with, talk through anything. I say, like, sometimes they're like, oh, they're friends for different reasons. And, like, I don't have close friends for different reasons. I have friends that, like, I go out with them. I call them. I have friends that I breathe on the phone with. Like, we have nothing to say, but we're just like, we're on the phone just breathing next to each other. Yeah. And, like, you, as you mature, you realize. Except Susan turns her phone off at night. But go ahead, Sarah. No, you're fine. But as you matured. church, you really weed out who are good, good friends, like very easily.

Yeah. And you don't need 15 friends. You can have three really good friends. And you can't, I know a million acquaintances that call friends, but you can have real friends on the hands. Yes. Yeah. I agree.

Wow. All right. How about this one? For young people trying to date, but they keep falling in a rut, into a rut, you know? Yeah. That's called, let me, let me simplify that. For old people, middle people, young people, exactly, young people, old people, dating the same kind of person, looking for all the wrong people in all the wrong places. I've been there.

That was me 22 to like yesterday. I'm kidding. No, I have been there where it was like I would go on dates with people and the next day, like they just wouldn't call me back or like, you know, they just weren't looking for a relationship. they weren't serious about something. It goes back to, like, as you grow up and as you mature, you don't give up, like, never give up on trying to find someone. You're going to have to go through those bad dates to figure out exactly what you want. How many bad dates?

How many? Oh, you're going to go through, like, hundreds. Like, yeah, you're going to go through so many. And, like, some people are lucky. Like, they go on one, like, hinge date and then they find them. Yeah, I know people like that. Yeah. But, like, I, yes.

And what I will say is, that like I like that I've been on so many dates because one, I have so many funny stories to like tell people. And two, it's like, you know what? I had fun. I went to dinner with a guy and I laughed. I can entertain. I'm the date sometimes. Like I have fun. I'm loving. And you know what? That's important. Yeah. And I have a free dinner. Whatever. Like I didn't have food to my friends tonight. I love it. All right. We have gotten to know you a little better. Bachelor Nation has gotten to know you a little better. But now we want to open the floor up to you.

Do you have any questions for us, advice for us? What do you, you know, this is your time. You know us, but you don't know us, but you know. Yeah. Who do you guys want to see on the beach if you were to go? The guy that you want. That you want. No.

No. We're not going to fight for the same guy. Oh, wait. Stop. Stop the presses right now. If I am lucky enough to go on the beach, let me assure you I am not going for anyone who is the age of my children. Let's just be clear. Okay. You never know. Oh, no, trust me. I know. There is, wait, Serafina, there's three things in life you can count on. Death, taxes, and I'll never will date anyone younger than my children. Okay, and we got that down. Good. It's so funny. That's hilarious. Any other questions? Like, because we don't have one for that.

We don't have. Yeah, I don't. I would say, what advice do you guys have for me? I feel like it is hard, especially like when you, I'm reaching like a milestone birthday coming up. And it is a little bit scary because a lot of my friends are married or engaged. And like, how do you feel like you're not falling behind in life? you're not in the same moment as them. That's all right.

And this, your world just started. When you turn 30, something happens, I believe, inside of us. That's where your confidence and you're educated

and you have life experiences better than most people walk in because you know how many women and we're on that show. You got to know you. You know who you are and you should be proud of who you are. Yeah.

I love that. I think that's great advice. My advice to you, Serafina, and I gave this to all three of my children. Yeah. Do the things that you love, the activities, whatever it is. Build yourself. Make yourself a strong, competent, interesting, lovable, which you are. Do all those things that you love and the right people will come into your life.

I've been realizing not. It's like the more of myself I am. the better people are coming into my life. I get it when I was your age when thinking back, like, oh my God, if I'm 30, I need to start a family. But there is no special age. And you find, usually find somebody when you're least expecting it. I know.

You say that. We argue about this. I don't know that I buy that. It's so hard. No, but I do believe that because so many of my friends, they're like, they've been in rides. And, like, they are just like, I give up on dating. And then, like, someone just comes in.

And it does happen. I do believe that. Well, I'm still waiting. So, you know, let me go open my door so they can get in easier. Wait, do you think it's tough to date in New York? Because my daughter, who met her husband when she was 31, I think. And same thing. She was like, what's wrong with me?

And my daughter's as pretty as you are and successful and all those things. But she just hadn't met the right guy. And, you know, she said New York. She was living in New York at the time working. She said, Mom, it's impossible here because even if you're on a date and the guy likes you, he's like a mosquito, you know, he's looking at the person of the next person that walks by going, oh, you know, I'm in the candy store. I mean, do you find that to be true?

Yes, I think it's really hard to date in New York because I think there are just so many more options. It's like, you meet people. Yeah, it's like work. There's like dating apps. There's happy hours. There's events. It's just like it's a pool for them.

So it's like, and you know, it's not just guys. It's girls too. But I feel like it definitely is a little bit more of the men. Yeah, it's really, really hard. Would you ask a man out, Serafina? Would you ask a guy? I have not met a guy that I wanted to ask out in a while, but I would ask a guy out.

Yes, I will. Damn. Who do we know that we can hook her up with? I think she's on the right road and the goodness is going to come to her. I hope so. Knowing yourself and love yourself. be happy within. Yeah.

And so many people make the wrong choices thinking they're, okay, he is and they end up divorced or, you know, wasted years after life realizing you're not the one, you're not my person. I do think positive attracts positive. I really, you know, people say that to me. Kathy, I love that you're saying. I do. People, I've, that's one thing that is, I always have been positive.

But I, you know, I went through a tough time. when my husband died, but I've realized that if you put out that positive vibe, more positivity comes. Oh, I hate that expression. I hate that expression. You just said it, though. That's what you're saying. I mean, you know. I've been breaching it till since today I met her. Trust me. Yes. Whatever. You know, who's with the guy and who isn't? Give me a break. But that's not necessarily the end all. But you know what? Serfina, you've been great. I love to. If we get that invite, you go right to us, baby. Yeah.

Listen, trust, we, you know, we, if we get to go, like, we don't want to sit there and say, now let, let us tell you what you need to do to get the guy. However, you tell me who you want, and I'll club him if he doesn't ask your guy. He's so happy. Any guy with a brain in his head, well, Grant has a brain in his head. I'm just saying you are a lovely person. Thank you. The right guys, you know, and you're a successful, smart woman, revel in that.

Thank you. Yeah, I feel good things coming to me this year. I'm, like, very positive about it. Good. It's a good year for me. I like it. 30 is an odd number, the three, so it's definitely going to be it. Yes, yes.

Wait, what? I like odd numbers, 357, 9. Well, I'm so glad that you like odd numbers. What does that have to do with our good life? coming. Because 2025? 30. There's a three.

Oh, yeah. That just means her good life is coming. Well, it's about her today, Gab. Yeah. I'm lost. Are you talking about the three of us? Let's, I thought she was talking about 20, 25. What are you?

I thought it was 2025, too. Okay, Susan. We're not here. We like that as well. Okay. Yeah, everything else for you, baby. Yeah. All right.

Well, Serapina, if I show up at Paradise, you'll know me. I'll be the girl in the very, large one-piece bathing suit. I'm so excited. You know what? Thank you so much for joining us today. We really, really love getting to know you and I can't wait to get to know more. And wait, can we just give a shout out to her mom?

Would you want to call us later and tell us who this guy is? I will. I'll message you guys. I'll send you pictures. Yeah. And your mom, yes. Your mom, Velma, listen, Velma, if you're listening, which I hope you are, you did a great job with this girl.

She's beautiful, smart, and my hat is off to you. Thank you. She's going to love to hear that. Thank you, guys. Okay. We love getting to chat with you. We thank you, and we thank our audience for listening to us, all of our listeners. Be sure, please follow Bachelor Happy Hour.

If you enjoyed today with Serafina, we've got a lot of other great episodes coming out. They come out every week. You don't want to miss them, but you got to follow us. Yes, and submit your questions, because that's what we talk about when we have our special guests. And even when we don't have guests, we give advice, good or bad, but the best part is when you guys send us back information on what you did and how it came out. How do they do it, Susan?

How do they send us comments and questions? They go to bachelorination.com slash golden hour. Or you can DM us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. Okay, all I have to say is if we get to go to paradise, think of the questions and the comments that'll be coming our way. Oh, God. It'll be worth the ticket if I have to pay for it myself. In the meantime, in the meantime, until it happens or it doesn't happen?

If we're not invited, we're crashing it. Yeah. Seraphina, I know you're going to give you our phone numbers. You're going to tell us where and when you are and we're going to be there. And I'll text you guys. All right. In the meantime, until we find out what Sarah Phine is going to be, Listen to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on the Iheart radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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