Bachelor Happy Hour - Zach & Kaity Were Made for Each Other

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Becca is joined by the adorable happy couple, Zach and Kaity. We finally get all the juicy details of their final days in Thailand, including meeting Zach’s family and that breathtaking proposal. The lovebirds also share some sweet behind-the-scenes moments we didn’t get to see on-screen and discuss their future plans to move in together! Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you don’t miss an episode.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is the finale of Zach's season. It's crazy that we are already here. I feel like this season at times has just flew by, and at times it seemed extra long, but we made it and today we will have a very fun episode because we are sitting down with the newest bachelor nation couple, Zach and Katie together for, well, not the first time because they obviously did the finale, but one of the first interviews with this happy couple. So we're excited to hear from them all about their experience, how life has been after filming

and hopefully get some plans, some juicy details for their future as fiancée's, they can finally say that. I'm sure it feels great for them. So before we bring them on, we're not going to do a full recap today, only because obviously we have the couple with us. They lived it. They were there. They can give us their firsthand experience of everything that went down during that crazy week. But when I was watching this final episode, I was just going down memory lane, remembering how I was feeling during that last week with emotions and such strong feelings between two people. It's never easy. Like that week truly is. It's one of like the happiest times, but it's also at the same exact time, one of the most stressful, anxiety-ridden, really sad times

because you not only are hopefully starting your new life with your partner, but you're also saying goodbye to somebody that you have been falling in love with. And it's a really weird juxtaposition that you can find yourself in. And so Zach is one of the few leads who had to experience all of that craziness. So we will get his experience firsthand once we bring them on. But before that, we'll just do a little fun catch-up for all of you listeners. I have some fun news to share. Thomas and I are finally, finally, finally in our house. I know it has been a long time coming. We have talked about it week after week on this podcast. But our house is 93% finished.

We're finally sleeping in it. We're living in it. We're cooking in it. And we actually had our first little gathering of friends over the other night. And if anyone follows me or anyone in Bachelor Nation on social media, you'll see that we had a little reunion with Abigail and Noah. And we had Justin and Andrew in town and Mikey P. and Rodney. It was all for Rodney's birthday. So we finally could open our doors and welcome some friends and just cook and eat a crap ton of ice cream and have game nights and drink wine. And so that has been like the most exciting part of my life right now, not to make this all about me. But that's been a really exciting thing for us. So you'll finally hear me stop talking about the renovations. I know we've been talking about it since July. So you're welcome. But yeah, that's,

It's a good week, I think, to celebrate all around. And before we do any more celebrating, once we bring Katie and Zach on, we really want to celebrate their love because, again, this is the first time that they're in public. And they can do the little things like go to their grocery store and hold hands in the street and even say to other's names in public. So we'll get into that. But I do also want to just bring up how incredible all of the women have. been this season, especially Gabby. We saw her in the finale. And I'm sure anyone watching the breakup between her and Zach, I mean, I'm sure you felt it and you felt the emotions with Gabby and you could feel for her in that moment. Gabby, you have remained, if you're listening,

you've remained classy until the very end and you've still kept your spunk and your quirk. And so we're also wishing Gabby the best in whatever's to come in this next chapter of her It's never easy seeing somebody get broken up with, especially on such a public platform. But Gabby, we love you and we're supporting you from afar. And I think only good things are going to be coming for you in the future. Who knows if that's paradise or what that might mean. But I can't forget about Gabby here before we get into everything. But I think with all of that, like I said, we're not going to do a full recap because I want to hear it from the horse's mouth themselves.

So I think without further ado, everyone, I'm going to be bringing on Zach and Katie for the first time on Happy Hour as a couple, as the newly engaged lovebirds. So please welcome Zach and Katie to Happy Hour. Well, welcome you to Lovebirds. It's fun to finally see you two together in the flesh. How does it feel? you can finally say each other's names in public. It feels so good. Finally, truly.

A long time coming. Like, the amount of times we, like, have to go secret code names on our phone. And, like, we have to meet up in secret locations to see each other. No more. We're done. Okay. I need to know what were your code names for one another. Oh, my God.

So he actually had quite a few in my phone. But the one that lasted the longest was Lucy. Lucy, okay. Emoji, the picture. Lucy with a monkey, because his favorite animal is a monkey. How did we pick out Lucy? I think because I didn't have any friends who were named Lucy. And I could easily look if somebody saw it in my phone,

I just like, oh, I work with them. And they'd be like, oh, okay. Gotcha. Okay. And then what was the other one? So for Katie, it was, and it always has been this. It's been a purple heart emoji because our favorite. was purple but dolphin right after because dolphins are her favorite animal i have like i mean i was just

like to show it off they're like who's purple heart dolphin emoji like you'd like to know wouldn't you i'm just thinking like if i was sitting behind you like in a grocery store seeing this i i'd be like what what what is this yeah that's so funny i love the lucy nickname i actually named my car after I love Lucy. I love that. What has been the hardest part during this waiting period for you both? I think like we both just wanted to like go to a coffee shop together. We just want to go out for dinner. And you truly do get to know people when you go out for dinner. How somebody treats a server or even like hanging out with each other's friends. Like we don't see that. So I think we were. itching for that. But I think also there was such a positive of being isolated in, you know, a house together. And we learned so much about one another.

And I don't take that for granted at all. But yeah, I think we were both super excited to just finally. Just do normal life stuff. That was that was what we were like itching for, you know, on all the happy couple visits. It's like, oh, like, wouldn't it just be great if we could go to dinner tonight? Or like just go on a hike or walk the city or just. do this and that. But what Kay was saying of we started to appreciate the fact that we had our own little bubble and we had all this time to just talk and cover like a lot of things that we don't

get the time to while we're in the show and huge for us. And so we actually look back on it or we talked about it a little bit briefly of as much as we want to rush into like going to the restaurants and coffee shops and just doing normal life stuff. I think there's going to be a moment when we look back and think like, oh, that was kind of like a sweet time we had together where we had to be so secretive. And that's a once in a lifetime thing of having to be so. Yeah. And also like catches up to you. Like he's going back to work. I'm going back to work. And, you know, we're going to have busy schedule. So I think like just like having this moment, no, nothing in the way, no distractions, nothing just solely intimate time with you. It was, but we are very much.

You're ready to be ready. I get it. I remember those months and especially like those last couple weeks, it's, they seem to just drag on so long and all you want to do is share with the world because I'm sure most of your friends and family know by now. But again, you're in this weird limbo phase where you're like, okay, I love this person. I'm ready to like take this next step, but I can't quite get there yet. I have a two-part question. Okay. Okay. So two part question for you both. Now, Zach, you seem like a rule follower, which I am too. I appreciate rules. I like the structure, unless I've had a little too much wine, then I get kind of loosey-goosey, but Katie, I obviously don't know you that well. So when you were in these happy couple houses,

did you at any point throw on disguises, have wigs, hats, glasses, and did you ever sneak out and do a little walk. That's my first question. And then adding on to that, what was like the main thing you did to pass the time? Do you play games? Do you cook? Do you just chat? What did your days look like? Yeah, I would say we for sure got a little, we were very cooped up in the house and we did need to go for a walk. So yeah, we did do some disguises, hats, glasses. The full thing. Hoodie on. It actually looked more suspicious probably looking back at it yeah but like it's just not realistic you can't keep us in a house for four days straight and like not know what the weather's like outside so anyways i and i'm an outdoorsy person like i was losing my marbles going inside like staying

inside so yeah we definitely did go for some blocks but like we were still like we were good about it we were yeah we were smart about it like we like early on obviously yeah I'm the role follower and like you were like we're going on a walk on like our first one and I was like oh but babe like yeah I'm like she's on we're going and you're like we're going and here and we did it totally fine um I think every every every happy couple we we were out I mean we sometimes twice sometimes yeah like long one yeah but what we did that past the time in the in the house we played a lot of like obviously a little bit of drinking here and there lots of wine um board games type like type of board games like janga which i guess and we played a lot of

like drinking janga anytime there's a pool or a hot tub we'll do that cornhole yeah we did do that i would say um we played a lot of games that got to know each other so there was like card games that would be like okay um ask your partner like what their biggest like insecurity is stuff like that. So we played a lot of those games and we got to be so well. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Good.

Yeah. That's so important. And especially going off of what you both said earlier, like this is the time and as annoying as it is when you don't want to have to be so secluded for so long. It is nice because you are in this protected space just to truly kind of just playing off of the show. You just spend that one-on-one uninterrupted alone time with somebody. Okay.

before we get into all of the fun, the finale, the engagement, all of the happiness stack, I do just have one question for you because this is something that happened at the very beginning of this last episode where I was just a little confused. And it happened probably within like the first 10 minutes, I would say. And you're basically to set the scene. And I understand how crazy this last week is. It's one of like your happiest times because you know you're finally going to have the beginning of this life with your partner starting, but you also know that you have a really hard goodbye to get to before that point. You made a comment of like you have regrets and, you know, you were like working through the decisions that you had made the week prior and it was like really

taking a toll on you. But then like within five minutes, and I'm sorry to bring up. Gabby in front of you because you guys are people but you know she is part of this episode but Gabby Zach had questioned you at one point of like do you have any regrets and in that moment you said no basically like I don't have any regrets I wouldn't change anything and for me as if you were I was just left a little confused because I was like does he have regrets about like the actions that took place or like the boundaries he set so if you would just really quick set the scene and kind of just speak on that a bit more for all of the viewers to understand where your headspace was during that like that whole conversation yeah yeah and i think that's

where it could easily be seen as like a little confusing or muddy and you know how i view that entire like the the fantasy sweet week with you know me setting up those parameters like I looked back at that and I still looked back at that. That was regret. And that's where I made mistakes and I know I could have been better and I didn't need to do that

and that's always on me. So yeah, I could have done a lot of things better. You know, in talking with Gabby, when I'm like talking about like our experience together, our relationship at the time, that there's no regret because that's like getting to know the person and that's how things took together.

it's the point that they were, if that makes sense. But how the Fantasy Suite week went as a whole of me, kind of derailing it, that was a regret. So, like, I know that I'll be back to back and it looks like, okay, he just said he has all these regrets, but no regrets, Gabby. Well, I don't have any regrets with that relationship with Gabby, but I have regrets on that entire week of me accidentally derailing everything. Okay. I kind of figured that's, oh, totally.

And I kind of figured that's what the situation was, and that's why you were saying that. But again, like, people who watch the show, like, they only hear one certain thing, and that's kind of what they go off of. So I wanted to give you the space to be able to, like, alleviate any confusion there. So thank you for that. Now let's get into this final week because you were prepping months to find your partner. You obviously did. let's take it back now to when you guys are finally on that stage together during after the final rows officially as a couple what were you most excited about like leading up to that moment

for both of you I mean just first and foremost just excited to show her off like to everyone like I want you know like all my family to spend time with her all my friends I want to do like the life of going to restaurants, coffee shops, like, just do that together. And this, like, moment on stage is, like, kind of that kickoff point of, like, this is the rest of our lives together. And so it was just getting to that moment, like, I know we were both pretty nervous. And I mean, when there's, like, a live crowd, it's terrifying. So terrifying. But it was just, like, after this, like, it's a new chapter for us. And I can't wait. So. Yeah, I agree with everything you're saying. Truly. Yeah.

Was there anything that you were slightly nervous for going into that? Like the live cameras are pretty scary. Both of you. Yes, Katie, take it away. Maybe stumbling in my heels because I can't walk in heels. But no, I don't think I was any, I wasn't nervous or anything. I was just super excited to just finally be sitting on that couch with you. And yeah.

I don't know, just starting our lives. I think that's like the, that was the point that we were waiting for is just being able to announce it and just moving on. I know. And I'm so tired of being on that stage, not with her by side. I know. Yeah. It's those moments that you want to share with your partner and you can't quite until last night.

So I get it. It was a long time coming. You both looked lovely and, I mean, we're excited to see. I feel like this was just the jump start to ever. I will warn you. You do have a crazy couple weeks ahead with a lot of press. I will tell you right now, anywhere you go out in public, whether it's even on a walk, a grocery store, out to dinner, you will be bombarded. So prep now. Try to always carry a dental floss with you so you don't have food in your teeth because that was my problem for a while. But people, you'll just receive so much

love and support and people just like want to share in that with you so i'm warning you now your your cheeks are going to be burning from smiling um but but enjoy it it's a fun time okay let's go back to so you spend the last two weeks of the finale in thailand which it's such a beautiful place was that have you either have you been there before or was that your first times i've been there Yeah, we both actually have been there. That was the only place I'd have been to outside of the country, actually, before this whole thing. Okay, okay. Did you, I mean, taking the show out of it, were you, either of you able to experience, like, anything new, culturally with the food, anything?

No. No. You were like, you were like, I was stuck in my hotel room when I wasn't was sick. No, I was stuck in my hotel room. Some of the girls actually went and did stuff. Like, Ariel, she went and hung out with. elephants. Gabby was riding around on her bike and all this stuff

and I was in a pool drinking. That sounds lovely too. Yeah, I mean, you could do that in any country. Yeah, that's true. I had to experience a whole lot. I mean, as we saw in the last episode, monkeys almost attacked me. So that was new.

The monkeys. I didn't have money. They're aggressive out there. They're so aggressive. It's like, You can't carry anything. You can't have a backpack so they'll come out and like they'll take your water bottle or they'll take your food,

whatever. They got no shame. They're like, no. Their whole family comes after you. Yeah. They're intense. They're intense. Okay. What was that last week like for both of you? I mean, Zach, obviously you were able to see your family for the first time in months and Katie, that was your first time meeting them. What was it like going into that? Can Katie, for you, did you learn anything new about Zach from his family that you didn't know before?

I think it just validated and confirmed that he had an amazing heart and just hearing what his mom had to say, like, his dad, his sisters, everything was just, yeah, it just confirmed that, you know, I know your mom said that you were more traditional. And I think I was like, okay, I didn't really realize that. But I think that's what I maybe learned. But other than that, it was just kind of like, just confirming that he had an amazing heart and I already I already knew that at that point but yeah Zach what was it like for you seeing Katie what are you whispering okay for everyone listening they're just so cute Zach's just like whispering probably sweet nothing to end to Katie's ear oh my gosh you guys are actually very adorable and I would say it's annoying but I also feel the same way about my partner so keep keep at it keep at it

Zach, what was it like for you being able to see Katie interact with your family for that first time? I mean, I was so excited to have her actually finally meet, like, my mom and my dad. That was like who I was most excited about. I knew she'd get along with my sisters. I mean, my sisters are crackups and I don't know, like, how much of their personality is really shown or not. But they're awesome. And I know you've got along with it. Talking to your sisters was like talking to my friends.

Yeah, it was, it felt very comfortable. Yeah, yeah. And I remember, like, seeing you after the fact and it was like, like, I knew it went well. Like, I could just tell. But also, like, what my family, like, told me afterwards, it was just like, yeah, it's just different. Like, with you too, there's this aura, like, around you both. And I was like, I know. And I don't know, it was just like, everything went smooth.

I know my dad kind of scared you a little bit, but I'm going to tell you this. He was very jet lagged, had quite a bit of whiskey, and that man can talk. So he, I've been apologizing ever since the baby about that all, because he's really a big daddy bear, but he had too much Jack Daniels. Yeah, he kind of fried me a little bit. I thought for sure more of the uncomfortable conversation would come from. his mom for some reason. I don't know why. And then I thought it would go like really smoothly with his dad.

But his dad just like laid into me. And I was like kind of taken back a little bit. Not like laid into me in a bad way, but just kind of like, I remember and I always bring this up to Zach. But he's like, it was like all fun in games. And then he's like, so what happens when the commission check doesn't come in? What are you going to do? I'm like, that was not shown.

This is new to us. How did you answer that? I mean, good. what happens i mean i was like oh my god that are you yeah so i was like sitting there freaking out and then i was like where is that yeah oh my good well that's so funny because we didn't i mean obviously they can only include such a short bit of each conversation but what we did see with you and katie i actually thought it was very special and just so real as you got pretty emotional with with his entire family and i don't think correct me if i'm wrong i don't think i don't think

think you were expecting that, right? Like, not that it got heavy, but you just, I felt like we're so overcome with your emotion and your love and your respect for this man, that that was like a moment where for me as a viewer was like, damn, she really does love this man. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think it just became like very surreal for me too. I mean, there, I mean, it was before, but I think it was like I can see myself in this family and it just like it was like a lot of it was like tears of joy I think but it was overwhelming like your life's about to turn upside down it could go good or could go bad so yeah lots of tears for sure but so Zach I know when we had you on a couple weeks ago now we had talked a little bit about like hometowns and

where you were at in terms of getting parents' blessings, were you at any point able, before you proposed to Katie at the end, able to call Katie's parents and ask for that? Or was it once you returned? And I'm just assuming you asked for the blessing now, but I could be very wrong. But when were you able to do that with her family? I asked for her mom's blessing when I met her out in Austin.

So it was in the week. and I met her lovely family that is so much fun and I was like really like nervous for that conversation with her mom in and I just like really saw a future there and I wanted her to like feel comfortable with me possibly being in their family

and it was really important to me to make sure that you know that she approved me possibly joining the family so oh you little sneaker because I know when we asked you you played so cool you were like no i didn't necessarily want to do that unless i knew it was like the person okay okay it's coming

together i think i think you asked everybody well i don't respect yeah like it was it wouldn't be yeah yeah it wasn't like uh yeah gady's the one at that point now he was that maybe he did know is that okay for both of you well okay Zach i'm just going to ask you this then when was the one moment that you knew and i will And I will say this too because the show does a great job of showing all love stories and showing all relationships and connections. And obviously at the end, I mean, no surprise, there's two people left. And we always, they always show like this struggle of like, I don't quite know up until like the last moment. That is false people. Sometimes people just know ahead of time. So Zach, on the record, when did you know it was Katie? yeah on the record on the record so like the exact like moment where i mean it was it was without a doubt i i knew without any sliver was when i saw her at the last chance date when we were at at the the waterfall immediately i put my eyes on her and i was like i'm an idiot

like it's it's you it's been you what was the what was the energy of that last date like and i hate that they call it the last chance day because it's like it sounds like find your person yeah right it's like such a hill mary like let me just lob this ball down and see where it lands it has like it's it just sounds so terrible i wish they had a different name for it but what was the energy like i you know because i'm not either one of you and i have a completely different experience of what my last dates were but for both of you what was the energy like going into that i think it was pretty good i mean definitely based on the lost date more more than that yeah you're like anything is better than that yeah no but i think overall

i mean for me and obviously you say your piece on it too but i thought it was it was good for sure Like, I was happy going into it. I was a little, like, I think just like with the show, I was just like, like, ready to not be in front of a camera anymore. I just wanted to take him in that moment and just let's get out of here. Screw all this and all that. But, no, it was really good. It was really sweet. And I really liked the evening portion of our date.

But all of it was just really good. Yeah. Katie, usually during that time, like, we're expecting, I'm saying we, like, I'm still part of the show with you, but we're expected to give the lead or make the lead a little gift. Did you do that night have anything for Zach? I did. And I've never even talked to you about this. No, we've never talked about this. Never. Um, so I actually think it was hometowns is when it was kind of like we started talking about it. um because we were obviously going to thailand but so we made i made a door knocker

so it's like for our first home and it says home to eat home welcome to zach and katie's house i had no idea do you still have it yeah you have a house in canada but oh my it's actually funny my mom when i was i was packing to come here I was looking at it. And my mom's like, what is that? And I was like, oh, it's this gift that I was supposed to give Zach, but we never actually did it. Oh, my gosh.

I'm like, it is sweet. I was like, huh. I have the chills. Well, that's actually very precious because, and I do want to get into your future plans, but I feel like now this is perfect timing to hang it on your door wherever. I mean, you already had Zach help you put together furniture and everything. Oh, yeah. This is just a great addition.

Smart. I can screw in a lifeboat pretty well. Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's so cute. Okay. So let's get down to the last big best day. Zach, how did you prepare for that? Did you have a game plan of what you wanted to say? Were you just going to kind of wing it? Because this was the first time, and correct me if I'm wrong here,

but this was the first time you were going to tell Katie, you loved her, correct? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so talk us through your headspace and, like, plan for that day. So it was actually, like, the night before, I started, I wanted to have something prepared because I really wanted her to know, like, how much she means to me, how much I love her. And I wanted it, you know, to be, like, you know, like beautifully written if I could, but I just wanted to be really special for her. And so I started the night before

and then I continued it like in the morning and when everything was all set and I was up on that stage and she was walking towards me. I mean my knees were trembling like I was like my voice was already starting to crack and I was like I couldn't contain my smile and

I was like oh shit this whole script I had in my head of like what I want to say to her before I get on one knee like I'm going to try to remember it and I remember just going on and I was getting emotional because I was so happy and just seeing like you look looking at your eyes and falling more and more in love and I think you just said just kiss me already and I did and I wanted something

you know prepared but like once I was just up there it was just you spoke from the heart truly you could tell yeah I was like I like I wrote out a speech and then I was like trying to memorize I'm like I'm going to fumble the bag I'm going to like I don't know like just my words are going to get all jumbled up and whatever but you killed it yeah i don't think i did yeah i remember no you did i felt i felt no you did not fumble you you crushed it you did not fumble anything well both of you i think you spoke from the heart and and this is something that i saw i really think i saw with you two on your first date and just throughout but like even now you both just have this ease about you between the two of you like it you just seem obviously you're so happy right now but you just also seem so calm

and like you center each other which is really special and i think that last day usually you can kind of tell if like something seems rehearsed and people like ran through certain things in their head but for both of you it just seemed to flow as you said from the heart it was really beautiful so one thing that i want to ask both of you because especially in the moment of the proposal and finally be able to say, I love you and know that it's just the two of you from here and out. There's so much excitement. I'm sure there were so many giggles and inside jokes and just like you were just elated. Obviously, that can't all be shown. So was there anything during that last day that you both remember that stuck out to you that we just missed as viewers?

You want me? I'll take it away. So after through the reason it happened. I am. Oh, okay. This is still a conversation. At some point, after the proposal, there's this beautiful swing right on the sand. It's overlooking the water. We're just having this amazing time.

We look like kids running around. And we see this swing and we're like, yeah, screw it. Let's just get on this swing together. And she's holding on to me. And I'm like getting a swing. ready. But I think she's holding on to the swing, so I'm just holding on to her. So we have no foundation on this one right now. And on our first little swing up, we both fall completely on the back of our heads, smack dab on top of the vines that we had on us, like totally like,

screwing up our bodies, covered in sand. And it was so funny. Yeah. And then you see like all the producers, the cameraman being like, are you okay? And I'm like, laughing my ass off in the sand. I'm like, this is so funny. As if it's happened. All I see, my last memory was just seeing your heels go up in the sky. Oh, my gosh. And of course, you're wearing a white dress too.

Right. Of course. That's how it happens. They're probably, damn it, we need the paramedics for these newly engaged people. Those are the best. So that's like, those are moments that I wish they included in the bloopers because, like, and you're probably on cloud nine. You're like, this doesn't even even hurt.

but like it is what it is. Katie, I have to tell you this. We're all over the place here, but I have to say the way that you say, sorry, I feel like I'm saying it like you know. Sorry. I find it so endearing. Thank you.

Yeah, a lot of people thought it was psychotic the way that I said it, but I mean, I can't change it. It's Canadian. It's true. I think we were in Estonia when we brought it up. we were bringing up like how he can hear my accent i'm like okay you say sorry and then we're like back and forth saying it i'm like and there's another one sorry and oh he thinks i say about weird like a boot no no you do it's it is a very canadian like midwest thing about

about about about Zach you're going to start picking it up you're going to start talking like katy i'm telling you so oh she already has me on the hey that's a pretty good thing eh hey oh yeah i say a lot it's so funny moving down to the states everybody's like when a canadian says a it's like this huge thing they're like the canadian said hey i was like i'm from minnesota so we're neighbors so i feel like we do very similar things um okay so one thing during the proposal that i i kind of knew what was coming zach but katie your face for a hot second you were like Oh, which way is this going to go? So, Zach, right before you tell Katie that you love her, you like, you know, you lead into this beautiful speech of like, you know, I've gotten to know you.

And I'm paraphrasing here, but it was basically like, I've been falling in love with you. And then you hesitate and give a little pause there. And Katie's face, Katie's face, they zoom in and she doesn't quite know which way it's going to go. So Katie, was there a slight moment? where you were like, oh, shit, this is not going to go my way? I think, yeah, there's obviously that in the back of your head, it's like, okay, this might not be me, which is so scary and the thought of it is extremely devastating because my whole heart belonged to him.

But, yeah, I think. Or you knew. I was confident. I think, like, before that moment, like, walking out, I was talking about. to Jesse before I walked around the corner and I was confident and I was confident in us but you still don't know but I'm also confident in who I am too and what I have to offer and I think I was like it is what it is at this point he either loves me or he doesn't and everything happens for a reason I think I just kind of had that outlook but I did have a confidence that it wasn't going to be me um okay

So let's get into future plans. So last night on stage, you announced that you two are moving in together. Give us like a little timeline and what that looks like. Yeah. So basically after all this press and chaos that we have, Zach is going to go back to Anaheim. He's going to pack all his stuff up and he's going to drive to Austin. I start a contract. So, I'm going to be living separately for three months, and then we're going to move in together in the summer. Yeah. In Austin, correct? Yeah. Okay. How exciting.

What are you both most looking forward to about finally cohabitating? There's waking up to you every morning. Really? Yeah. Mrs. Morning person. Wow. Still weakening up. Yeah.

I cannot wait for just like every morning to roll over. I usually get like I'm pretty energetic in the morning like randomly is when it hits me and she's a little bit slower to get energy in the morning. So I love just rolling over and the thought of just everyday rolling over, seeing your face, pissing the hell out of it. And so you're like, give me 10 more minutes. Yeah. And that's fine. So just going to bed at night, every night with each other and waking up. Just thing doing life together. Even like the random stuff.

Yeah. Nothing specific. Just I guess. Doing it. Just doing it. Yeah. So when you brought him back for your hometown, Katie, we saw him, you know, you put him to work. He was putting together some furniture. Is that the apartment that you will both be living in? or are you going to find a new one for both of you? No. So that place I don't live in there anymore. Travel nurses is that once you're done a contract,

you usually just like get a new place. So I was in a different, I was in a studio actually, this last contract while it's been airing. But, you know, we won't be in that house. No. Okay. That's actually setting one thing.

up for himself at the moment and then we'll probably move in to that one together yeah we're looking like a year in austin at least yeah okay yeah we love austin yeah it's a great city i've only been there once but i would go back in the heartbeat it's there's so much to do the people are super friendly really good food so that's a good spot to land on and i think like a good start a good city to start this next chapter in together it's going to be so exciting um well is there anything that you're nervous for have either of you lived with a partner before is this both of your first times i haven't i haven't lived with anybody yet uh like actual full time this would be the first time yeah katie's face it'll be fun it'll be i mean i will say there's going to be times where

you will need some space so just have like a color word or a separate room that you can just go in and like do your own thing but you you guys will have a blast it's it's really fun living with your best friend you know he's really good with me like he knows that i i need my space to kind of like recharge and just because my life's so chaotic well it has been um but he's always so good he's like do you need some space are you okay and it's not because i'm like giving attitude or anything he just he knows me and he's like okay like this might be a time where like I yeah but I'll try not

they get in in the way and let you deal with stuff because that's yeah no he's if you can find a place with two separate bathrooms that is the advice I would give you like have Zach's quarters and Katie's quarters in the bathroom

I feel like you would butt heads if like we were messy people but this one is so organized like so we're gonna you are and then I'm like flinging my stuff around my seat

the way I pack my suitcase with the hangers already oh yeah wait you keep your hangers on your clothes in the suitcase yeah is that crazy so I could just like pull them out and hang them up

anywhere I go okay wait are you the type of person that every time you go somewhere you have to unpack your clothes like you go to any hotel and you have to hang your clothes or put them in the dresser just shirts just shirts

no every time i come to a happy couple's weekend everything is like his shirts are piled up in the closet or in a drawer and then he's got things hung i'm like oh my goodness i didn't know that you did the hanger thing because every time i'm you're here first so i don't see you take your hangar i just bring my own hangers yeah because i don't know if like a hotel will have it all and i just like because it yeah i just like open the suitcase grab the shirts that are on the hangers boom doesn't that just take up extra space and wait though in your suitcase yeah yeah i've got a pretty big soup day oh my gosh this is so funny katie you're learning something new about him

i am i am baby's like i don't know how i feel about that okay i have to ask this question and apologies in advance because i hated every time i was asked this like right after the finale but i wouldn't be doing my job if i didn't ask it because the show is about finding love and getting engaged. Have you had any ideas, plans, thoughts, timeline in regards to a wedding? I can take it. So, like, Katie and I have talked about it, and we think that, you know, since we've been going a million miles an hour on the show.

Like, you know, the show is, it's a rushed environment. Like, that's the nature of it. And we think we have the rest of our lives to have. like to spend with each other that we don't need to rush a wedding or rush anything. Everything up until this point in a sense has been rushed. So we decided like we're just going to enjoy

and focus on our move to Austin together. Do life up there. Have our friends all meet. Just get that time together. And then we'll figure it out. Like we're in no rush. I love her to death and it's all going to work. Yeah. I respect that. I mean, take time now because it's going to be

so different from what you have been experiencing so do your own thing on your own timeline no pressure yeah kind of like takes like a pressure off everything because it's like while this has been airing and like even in the show like you there's an immense amount of pressure on everything and now it's just like right we get to do as much of a normal life as we can now and oh there's no yeah i could see in like in next two years but i i got two years little ones and four three yeah yeah yeah Oh, little babies. Well, I can't wait to see what happens next for you both. It's going to be such a wild but fun time. Things will calm down eventually. And then you'll finally feel like you're in a routine and like the dust to settle, which is the best part, truly. Okay. So before we get into wrapping up all of this, for both of you, I mean, you've lived it now. And Zach, you've now lived two seasons. If you're, you've now lived two seasons, if you're, you you had any advice to share with anyone out there, either looking for love or even potentially

like thinking about going on this crazy journey, what advice would you give them? Big question. I would say just be yourself. And I think also try to be the best version of yourself before giving yourself to someone else too. It's beautiful. It is beautiful. That's poetic.

That's me poetic. I would say like maybe more specific to like someone putting themselves out there like in this show environment like to find love. And I was like asked this question I think like for advice for charity but it can be like for just people and love. is like have fun with like everything you can because it's like love is something that is so fun and exciting and sure it's scary but it's like one of the best feelings if not the best feelings

in the world like falling in love and having your person so have fun with it like don't like overcomplicate it like I made mistakes in the show of trying to overcomplicate of you know the you know the path to get there when in reality it's just like letting yourself feel and have fun and loves a pretty great thing. So just have fun. Is it an amazing thing? Yeah. Look at those smiles you two, little smitten kittens over here. Okay, well, this is the perfect time then. We're going to get into our little game here. It's our newly engaged game. Very simple. Basically, I'm going to throw a question at you, and you both have to answer at

the same time, whether it's Zach or Katie. So I'll throw, like, the question the one liner out to you and just say which one of you two it is so okay let's start with this one who is more romantic that yeah who has the cleaner car three two one that okay who is more organized three two one that this is a good one who is more stubborn three two one Katie Oh woman After my own heart Who is the pickier

Eater Three, two, one Adam of us Spice Well, yeah I don't like spicy foods You don't like eggs But I feel like that

Equals to those Okay Next question Who takes longer to get ready Three, two, one Who's the better dancer Three, two, one Yeah

no wait really who is the better driver three two one okay next question who is the funny one three two one okay who's the better cook three two one you can't just say both every answer I didn't I cook really good salmon you cook really good steaks and other protein I think we bounce each other out and we make good meal Meals. Great meals. Yeah. Last question here. And then we can wrap this up and get to the fun stuff, too. Who spends more time on social media? Three, two, one. Katie. Katie. Well, it's a good way to pass the time, especially when you're stuck in a house for four days. On social media. At all. At all. If I'm on my phone, it's probably like a puzzle game. We're reading emails. I'm not a big.

social media guy yeah well that's probably the best i mean this is also such a crazy time where as you both have seen like people either love you or they hate you and it's just it can be a very scary place so that's probably good to just stay off social media for a while all right let's get into our last part which is our resource section of the podcast now zach i know you know how this goes, but Katie, basically, we love to keep our listeners informed and up to date on very important topic. So I will kick it off and then I will let you two go. So my resource for this week, it's a docu series called Eyes on the Prize. And it's basically broken up by like different years, timeframes, decades, but it's, uh, the docu series is about different events and

people that have basically helped end the countries or helped, tried, aim to eradicate this country's longstanding history of discrimination and segregation. Obviously, we still have a ways to go, but that is my resource. Eyes on the Prize. And now you two, if you have one that you would like to share, please do so. I would say, I think incorporating me as a nurse, my profession and diversity in one is kind of neat. So with my line of work, especially in the emergency department, we have this association called ENA, so emergency nurses association. And it's an organization that actually represents a lot of nurses. And they have a web page that supports DEI.

And it just embodies equality as well as, oh, my God. No, it's like, it's cool because it's, they staff like, emergency nurses across the country, but they staff of all backgrounds and they go to all hospitals regardless of background, race, religion, anything like that. And that's like their prerogative. Yeah. It's really cool. It supports like volunteers. It also has like a bunch of courses and resources that just integrate all that. So it's super cool. Awesome. I feel like that's so important in, I mean, really any career path, but especially for nursing and the health care. field. It's so needed. So thank you for sharing that. And now is the last fun part before you can go out

and live your lives. This is our Rose and Thorne. So basically your highlight, best favorite moment or memory from this entire time, whether it was filming, whether it was during the time when you were getting to know each other during like this limbo phase or now. And then obviously the Thorne is the opposite. So an awkward moment, a moment you maybe wish didn't happen or a learning lesson. So with that, you two take it away. I'll do the rose and then you do the thorn. Deal. I would say the rose would be me getting the final rose. Valid. Yeah. And my rose is marrying my best friend and my thorn are you doing both okay

well I was just I had to yeah and then my my thorn is kind of the events of the week prior the way I went into the week the way I tried to

create parameters and these really unnecessary boundaries and having it affect everyone's the way it did. Like that was not my intention. It never was. And yet it kind of doesn't matter. It was a decision I made.

And it's something I look back with regret on how I handled it. But that was a really tough moment. But a learning and a growing point for me. Well said, Bain. Yeah. Well, you two, we are so excited for you. as I said, the best is yet to come. But you're just going to have so much more to look forward to as a partnership now. So if you ever need anything, we're always here. If you need advice or whatever it might be, please let me know. If you're ever in Southern California, come hang out with me and Tommy. We'll take you out to dinner to celebrate you too. But we can't wait to see where this life takes you and to see this next chapter in Austin. So enjoy it all. Go have fun, you two crazy kids.

Thank you. Oh, my gosh. Well, what a fun episode. I know that you all can listen. You can't see the happy couple, but they really look so in love. They look so happy and just really at ease. And there's just this beautiful comfort level between them

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