Bachelor Happy Hour - Zoe’s Final Rose

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Zoe for a bonus episode! Sadly, her “Paradise” journey has come to an end, so she’s dishing on everything that went down before she left the beach. We get her POV on her relationship with Brian from start to finish. She also reveals what the love triangle with Parisa was like in real time. Plus, we chat final thoughts with her and what’s next now that her time on the beach has officially come to a close. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime Podcasts and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, West West, Prop here from Hood Politics with Prop Podcasts. You know I get down. You come from the urban areas. You understand politics more than you giving credit for. Between Jerry out here, Mandarin all over the place, hop-out boys snatching up family members

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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe. And I'm Serena. And we are here today with Zoe. Zoe, this is your third time on Bachelor Happy Hour. Welcome back. Yes. Thank you.

Hi. How you doing today? We're good. We're good. Back to reality and no more to me. Are you in New York right now? Yes. I just moved to the Lower East Side.

Oh, do you like it? Yeah, it's really nice. I got a roommate now, but a much bigger apartment and saving money. So win-win's all around. That's nice. That's the goal in New York is more space, less money. What did you do for? for the premiere. I last minute got all my people together. I have like a bartending friend and

like a friend who was in a event space. So I got like 30 people out. We all watched it. I made snacks and shark foodry boards and made them all watching on TV. So. Oh, that's so fun. What was their reaction? Were they so excited? Yeah. It's kind of funny. Everyone just like they get so excited even if you don't like really do anything. They're just like excited to see you on TV. So it's fun. And you have to like it's also nice in New York. to have reasons to get everyone back together as you guys probably know corraling people can be tough

100% have you have you did you watch did you ever watch paradise prior to going on no oh you never have you ever seen an episode so literally when they asked me to go on paradise and I said yes I was like I should probably watch like at least one season

and I could like barely make it through a season not gonna lie I don't do like I don't really watch Jaddy TV but I watched like a couple of tidbits in there I think was it like season six i watched pretty good chunk of it okay okay nice any because yeah i was going to say did you notice the the difference from your season how different it is now oh i would say there was a lot of difference we had way lower cast numbers which was like crazy yeah not many surprises either which like for me was kind of upsetting because i wanted to like i didn't

want to go on there being like, oh, I have my eye specifically on this person. Like I wanted to be shocked and like, you know, be surprised. And, um, I mean, way better vicinity. I actually was not going to go if it was like last time because I heard there was horrible bugs. Um, and I'm super acnophobic as we know. And I don't mind. I don't like AC. So that was going to draw to me. But I do like good food and a bougie place. So I was happy to be there. So you come off grant season, which wasn't that long ago. What? life like between finishing grant season and then going to paradise it was so quick i mean you mean like filming or like once it was done airing it was maybe like two months so it's like i

could barely even start to date again and then i was like well people know i'm going to paradise so i just kind of like kept to myself i was just trying to work um i do modeling like freelance work right now and just getting all my outfits together trying to get back into shape just you know really prepare for it and like set myself up to be gone for a few weeks and what was your mindset going into the season did you have like were you feeling good did you have any goals were you feeling nervous obviously you had kind of like a roller coaster ride on grant season so yeah what were the things that you took away from that season and then how are you going into this new season on grant season it was just things tumbled very quickly and like i definitely got ganged up on a lot i think that just put me

like there was such a negative mindset the entire time that I wanted to go and hear like clear-headed. I like, I had my people like Bailey and stuff that I knew were going to be there and being able to go in with like more security and like familiarity. I was like less on edge. So that really helped me. And I just wanted to be really open to finding love. Like I felt like on the season of The Bachelor like I was like having to do a lot of the chase. and like prove myself because I kept being questioned by the lead and I was like you know what like there's going to be way more men here like I just want to be more at peace and like try to date

how I've been trying to date in real life were there any men from past seasons that you were aware of and wanted to see down there I mean I think we all knew like Dale is obviously like top man and one of the top men in Bastian and I had whispers that he was going to be there I didn't really believe it until I saw it. There were some other people like Tanner from charity season, I believe. I wanted them to be there.

He wasn't. But I don't really follow Bachelor Nation. I don't really, I've never really watched the season the Bachelor other than part of Jen season. There weren't really any men on her season. I was like, I need here. And

yeah, I think that did. Okay, well, we see you get down to the beach. you know, you're down there pretty early, your original cast. Who did you hit it off with right away? Obviously, we know we see a lot of your relationship with Brian in episode one, but who else did you talk to? Was there anyone else you were interested in? I'm, like, really big on physical attraction.

And out of the men there, I think firsthand, specifically, Brian and maybe Justin, were probably the only two people, really was not interested in anyone else. I don't know. I kind of had a hard time, like, trying to talk. I think Kyle and then maybe Spencer, I would have wanted to talk to, but, like, I think that they both had really quirky personalities that, like, I just was like, this is not really my vibe. You're attractive, but, like, I don't think we're going to work long term. So pretty much day one, like, Brian and I had, like, really good banter. Like, he's tall, he's muscular. He's Italian, you know, from Long

Island. My parents are, like, family from Long Island. So he kind of, like, I guess was kind of familiar to me and like some of the men had dated the past and I thought he was like my best bed day one and then I didn't see Dale there so he eventually arrived the second day and he actually pulled me to chat

for like a good amount of time like 30 minutes or something and like we hit it off like had a really good conversation but then he immediately pulls cat for the date so I was like okay this man's not interested to me and I've already built something with Brian Even though Dale took Cat on the date, him and I actually did speak a decent amount,

but it was like this weird case because he just took another woman on a date and I've already kind of been matched up with this guy. And so I don't think either of us wanted to be disrespectful to our people. So we were trying to like talk when we could and like, but then we're still trying to build these other relationships. So it was just like this weird thing. And I also didn't want to like just start bringing a bunch of people into my roster because I hate, hate, hate, that that's the mindset people have of, like, waiting to the next

best thing, like, waiting to jump ship. And I don't want to be a hypocrite. And so to me, I'm like, if I've already started building something with someone, like, I don't need to, like, jump ship if I think something better's come along. Like, we need to focus and grow in water what we currently have. And that was kind of the mindset I was trying to go into and stick with. Yeah, it kind of seems like, you know, you have this connection with Brian. Dale has this connection with cat and you guys are maybe there's interest there and there's curiosity, but like pursuing that obviously means developing some love triangles and that obviously gets a little complicated.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't try. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, West West,

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We were actually the first couple to, like, build our own dates. So, like, there was a day we went swimming in the ocean together. We, like, watched the stars together. We, like, hung out on the hammock. Yeah, we saw your star watching day. And it definitely looked like more of an intentional setup with, like, blankets and a... Yeah. So we were actually, like, doing those dates.

Like, he kissed me in front of the group. I think it was, like, one of the first, like, public kisses. And, yeah. it was like all those things like when we did the poster board and I got a bunch of exes because everyone was offended by my height comment he like came back and put hearts all over it and was like here's all my hearts go to you and when I was talking to Dale like after these couple of chats like Brian was like I got really jealous like that you're talking to Dale like I don't feel that secure and so to me and to everyone around us it genuinely felt like oh like we are building and being secure besides that I think Jess and Spencer like Spencer was locked in like day one like he would not even look in a different girls direction um or like even it was like yeah it was like a lot of men were doing that I would say him um after the first rose yeah I would probably say to Justin Spencer um I think a cat locked into Dale as I said Dale was still talking to me and maybe talking to other people

and then was was was Brian aware that you and Dale were still somewhat talking yeah because as I said there was like this one point where like you can't escape so like I spoke with Dale like I got a good chunk conversation and like Brian's like watching us in the whole time and I come back and he's like like I'm jealous and like I was like oh like that's cute like I want my man to be like a little jealous that means that you like like me I was like didn't do anything I was like we're not kissing and like maybe out over here in the corner, I just genuinely was trying to see if we have a connection, if we can, you know, pursue this. And if it does progress, I would have gone and spoke to Brian. But to see that in a jealousy, like, oh, like, he definitely thinks, like, I'm his girl. I was like, cool, we like that. So I would say going into that rose ceremony, Jess and Spencer and, like, me and Brian seemed, like, the strongest couples. And as you saw, like, Brian even held my hand, like, as we, like, separated. Spencer and Jess kissed. So, So that was our thought process. And then we woke up the next day. Okay. So it does seem like you and Brian have a really strong connection. You're both investing time. There's a lot of like nonverbal signals that you guys are feeling like really serious.

But there's been no explicit like, hey, we're only dating each other. You're still kind of chatting with Dale. You're open to something there. And then, you know, we go into week two and we have the chemistry challenge, which we see kind of both of you guys. explore something outside of your relationship? Well, what's worse than that? So, I don't know, it was kind of, like, it's, it didn't seem like we needed to define it because, like, day one, it was kind of people were open.

He was talked to, like, a few other people. And it was, like, by day two, we kind of, it was very obviously locked in. Like, you know, the conversation of, are we exclusive? I think you kind of do the day after the row ceremony. Like, you know, like, let's chat then. So literally, we give it my rose. we wake up the next morning and he walks into the group

and completely ignores me just walks right past me trends I don't exist says hello to everyone doesn't chat with me and so he literally didn't talk to me all day and I said can we talk

because now I'm getting my first red flag of like uh oh did this man just like play the game and like play me and everyone and he goes I need to drink first and I was like

in my head I'm like you wouldn't be here to get a drink if it wasn't for me so i was like never mind i don't need if you that's more important to you than a conversation with the girl like you supposedly like i'm good so we didn't get a chance to talk the compatibility test happens um and at this point like i don't even know if he's going to put me down so i'm like at this point like you've just ghosted me like you've ghosted me in real life okay i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna stop you there because i have a question about that because he is saying on the episode that you're upset that like he didn't say hi to you first

you're saying that he just didn't he completely ignored you pretty much all morning it didn't speak to you because that's those both those both those are true so you have to you have to look at the situation you I just gave you a rose in the real world that's like we We just went on a date. We're going on our second date. Like, we're waking up. Every other person, even the people who knowingly gave friendship roses, were with the girl that gave him the rose.

Like, that's just, like, normal human behavior of, I'm going to wake up and say hello to my partner, the person that kept me here. He walks and sees me, sees a group, and not only just talks to other people, beelines and says hi to Bailey, my best friend. okay and a girl that he was trying to talk to day one that's weird like i give you invest all this time in me your behavior has been one way you got the rose the next day your behavior is very

different towards me oh it was a 180 and it's not just me who clocked it so like you go in there so it's like disrespect disrespect came over he said hi to me i think because he felt some pressure and then immediately went back to the group and i was like oh like i know this behavior And it's like he wants to, with his actions and not his words, be like, you keeping me here meant nothing. I don't actually like you. I'm ready to make sure I'm available for whoever steps put on that beach. That's messed up. Did you think about calling him out on that right away or you wanted to sit on it?

and like because i mean that's totally up to you like i don't know if i was in your situation i may not have done that as well but like did you think about like hey what the fuck why did you just ignore me what's going what's going on are you kind of waiting to see how it played out there's two things i think in my history i was often like i was always like considered the problem. I was the one having the issues. Like, you know, just being really gaslit into like, everything I did was wrong. So I'm like, okay, like, I don't want to like bring up a problem that might not be a problem. That's number one. And the number two, I'm like, I also don't want to be begging a man to treat me properly. Sure. Like, I want

to give you the space and opportunity to show me what type of man you are. And he did over and over and over. But I, you know, I just wanted, because like, I will, gaslight my thought and be like, oh, like, maybe I'm just overreacting. Maybe that's not what happened. Maybe he just woke up and he just didn't think about it, but he is 100% still into me. You know what I mean? Like maybe, or maybe he was upset that I had chatted with Dale and he just wants to like, whatever. So in my brain, I'm making up excuses for him and being like, okay, like, let me just let this play out. Because I don't think that we need to just go and start attacking people because, like, I do think that's really toxic. Like, I will give people so much

grace because I don't know what's going on in their brain. I don't know what their history is. like so i wanted to give him a chance to do the right thing and that was to spend time with the girl that you just spent the last three days getting to know and going on dates with and making out with and um so yeah so he just ignored me all day and then we do a kissing challenge and by this point genuinely because of how he his the 180 switch i was like i don't even know if he's going to put my name down like i genuinely did not know if this was his way of like trying to silently break up and ghost me. Like, it was crazy work.

Let's go. Okay, so, but then you guys do kissing that challenge, and it seems like a good kiss. It also seems like you guys have, like, a good physical connection. But after the kiss, after that kissing challenge, where, what happens then? Like, is there a conversation? after that like where where do we stand because up until that challenge from what you are saying he basically ghost you all morning up until that challenge we don't know what time that challenge is

you guys have a kiss what goes down after that so we we kissed um i know he kissed a few other people and then obviously i kissed dale as i said these are two men i've been talking to and i'm expecting the challenge to be over him to come back and us to have that conversation i've been asking for all day and we have a conversation and that's where i brought up like hey like this is a 180 behavior change and for me my little stem self i'm like if i'm going to tell you something here's the facts of like what i'm coming to this conclusion for and like you walked in you didn't even say hi to me you said hi to all my friends you it didn't speak to me all day i asked you to chat and he immediately gets defensive and he's like i don't

need a girl that's tracking me and like who I'm talking to and whatnot and I was like oh shit I know exactly who you are and I was like I have just shot myself in the foot this was my X 2.0 and I was just like okay like again I'm not trying to track your movements I'm not telling you to do specific things where in a microcosm of an environment where like the way you show someone that you're still interested is that if they kept you here you think that like you stick around them you come say hello to them you don't go say hi to other people first and disrespect them in front of everyone and i was like oh like he doesn't want to understand that because he doesn't care was there ever a part of you that went on this show and was like just have fun well no no but did you did any of you

like even like the girls have a chat of like we do kind of it is it is is week one we have the power these guys need our roses to stay was there any part of you that was like okay i think brian's into me but there is a part of brian that wants to just stay on the show so maybe he is potentially using me did your brain ever go there yes this is where i was like i i had to like on again ungaslight myself as i was leaving because i was like no the one thing I've learned with dating now is I lean on my friends so much to like make sure that I'm making sound choices and not just like going back to toxic habits that like I grew up around and I would ask people I'm like what do you think about Bryant like I don't know if Brian really likes me like he

did these things are like day one he was still talking girls but like I don't want to be too insecure and they're like no Zoe he really likes you he's really into you and I was the one trying to like question but the thing is too as I said there weren't really other options I was like I mean that's the that's the problem I mean that that is the issue with the show is, you know, the options still, I mean, there's more people there, but options are still limited. So if, if your half-ass connection falls through and then people are coupled up and you don't really, and you're really not into anyone, you're in a, you're in a world of like, well, why am I even here type of thing. Now, I do want to ask you

with, so you're upset. You're not truly upset because. Because Brian goes on a date with Prisa. You're upset. So if Brian would have handled, if Brian hypothetically would have said hi to you first thing in the morning, spent time with you, was nice. And then Prisa asked him on a date. Yeah. You would have been fine with that.

Oh, 1,000%. He had treated me the same way that day, had gone on a day with Parisa, came back and they were in love. Good for y'all. It's just, it was the switchup and it's just, everyone clocked it. Like, it wasn't, again, it's not just me being in Dululand. It's like me being nothing but respectful because I could have pulled Dale for way more trash.

I could have tried to make out with a dude. But like, that's not me. I was there with nothing but genuineness and, yeah. Let's circle back because I want to, before we run out of time, quickly ask you about Prisa. We do see you say that you kind of have this energy of like anyone but Prisa when you're talking to Brian. But I don't recall you guys having any direct conflict on grant season. Is there a reason why you didn't feel comfortable with him exploring Parisa? Because when Ali Joe and Prisa enter the beach, we see you guys have a little chat.

And it seems polite. Yeah, it doesn't seem like there's any existing. issues between the two of you. It was more so just the disrespect of the girl from my season not respecting me as a woman enough to talk to me about it before. Yeah, and I think that we're just very opposite people, so it just seemed a little weird

that if you were into me, suddenly you're into her, right? The Rose ceremony we see Justin ends up walking away and there's an extra rose and you're one of the girls that doesn't have a rose are you do you at all even want this rose or at this time you're just like I'm ready to leave I won't even take

if Justin gave you the friendship rose would you've taken it or are you just like I'm done with the show I'm leaving I mean I would have been open to it hopeful that like new people would come down but yeah the same time like It's nice to get back to real life and real dating and working and everything in between. So, yeah. Yeah.

Well, we obviously see in episode three that you do not receive the rose. You're unfortunately sent home. What is next for Zoe post-Bachelorette and Paradise? Post-Paradise, just getting back to reality. like um i had to move apartments in new york i'm modeling uh dating i'm trying to like meet people i was eager to find a partner find love um and like actually build with someone so hopefully we can find someone well i think you will and thank you so much for coming on and taking the time we really appreciate it it's your third time on the podcast

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