Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 16 - Harry Hugo, Phil Adele and Marisa Carnesky

Episode Date: December 12, 2016

Kevin Freshwater was back for another episode alongside Jahannah James! However, Noel misses the show so much he rang in to talk about his newest project! Jahannah and Kevin were also joined in the studio by social media wizard Harry Hugo, actor Phil Adele and Marisa Carnesky of Dr Carenky’s Bleeding Woman.

This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. Good afternoon. It's back row and chill. It's 4 o'clock. Well, just gone 4 o'clock Friday. Welcome, welcome, welcome to the show. Today I'm joined by Kevin Freshwater.

I'm back. He's back, baby. How was your poo? My shit was nice. Kevin nearly didn't make the start of the show It was the train's fault Because by the way the circle line Avoid it

Hamidstim City line avoid it I was five minutes to spare I needed a quick, quick poo I made it in time Evacuate I'm a little out of breath What from the poo From the running

Well you know We all, when you need to go You need to go We need to go And yeah right Welcome to the show We got a big packed show for you today We are going to be speaking

Noel's going to be speaking to us in about 10 minutes, live from the set of his new film or TV show, whatever it is. What's he doing? I don't know. We're going to find out. He's been away for ages filming because he's, you know, that's his job. So if any of you guys have got any questions that you want us to ask Noel Clark about what's going on, and just email in chill at fubaradio.com or tweet at Fubbar Radio.

And we're going to give them all your questions and we'll give you a shout out as well. Do it. We've got other guests in the show. Harry Hugo, who is sort of internet branding manager man. Because the show is about, background in tour, is about film, it's about theatre, it's about entertainment as a whole. And now, as you're well aware, Kevin, a lot of entertainment is now online. All of it. The best of it.

The best of it. Yeah, everybody, from morning to night, or even through the night, everyone's on their phones, on their laptops and the iPads, and you're getting entertained by your Facebook feeds, YouTube. It is the, I think it's the, apparently TV's dying. No. Apparently, so. No. Apparently more people watch things not live on like a catch-up service or some sort of, you actually use your internet more than you would have a live TV.

Westworld. Westworld. Oh my God. Wait, no, I haven't watched the final event, Westworld. So do not. No spoilers, please, anyone. Well, just be prepared. Be prepared.

Be prepared. Be prepared. Have your mind blown. I will, I will be. I can't wait to settle down. at some point this weekend. There is no maze. I'm going to kill you if you've given me a spoiler.

What a little shit. Oki-dokey, got lots of music. We've got some games. We've got Christmas themed. We've got Christmas themed. I can't remember what. I planned a lot of games, basically. We played Christmas in November, so we should be playing Christmas in December.

Well, we are. We're playing a lot. I'm actually finally getting in the festive mood. Oh, Christmas tree. Oh, Christmas tree. Oh, la, la, la, la. Christmas tree. It's taken me a while.

Because you know when you just don't feel it? I still don't feel like... You feel like a grinch. Okay, well, you'll be feeling grinchy. And the other day I walked past Somerset House in London and there was this huge Christmas tree and everyone's ice skating. I went to the one in the Natural History Museum, South Kensington.

Oh, yeah? I was on there for 10 minutes. I was like, I've got to get a drink. Not for me. Too much activities. Too much exercise. I'm ice skating drunk. I mean, that could be quite good.

It was pretty amazing. Was that you going on your own with friends? I went on my own just because I'm a loser. Cause I have to wait with friends. It could have been a romantic date. Me and myself. Me and I.

Got myself a mold wine. Some hot chocolate. Took myself around the ring. Yes I did. Got myself a boyfriend. No, it's my Christmas mission. I want to go ice skating and get all festive and do it.

Do it. Do it. Do that. I haven't got any presents yet. Have you got presents? No. I haven't got. Actually, I've got,

you guys' presents for the 15th for our, what is it, you call? Oh, we're having a Christmas swaree. Yeah, a load of us who are sort of... Is that still happening? Yeah, but definitely still Averdine, yeah. Although now we've announced on the radio, I think everyone's going to think they're invited. But... Whoops! I'll put the address into my Facebook later.

Johanna's house. I'm organising a Christmas sororay for all the fun Facebook creators and YouTube creators that I've worked with this year. And, you know, toasting to the next year. Maud wine? A bit of mold wine I'll get mold wine I can't even say it Mouldingil wine

I'll get the wine I'll get the whiskey That's fine Oh present Okay crap now I'm gonna get presents as well Nothing major I've just got a couple Are you gonna dress up as Santa

And come out? Nah That'd be great Maybe Oh Oh Oh I was actually gonna do a video

Bad Santa Where I wrap up Nauty presents Oh like a dead rat Like Dildoes Oh okay That kind of no Yeah

My mind jumps to like Hand them out to the elderly Merry Christmas They would probably love it. Probably. Probably. It's a massage and a... Like dust.

Too much. Too far. Right. Too soon? Too soon. I mean the weekend's beginning. Let's go wild. But, okay.

Maybe we should play something Christmasy as we are getting into the festive. I've got a couple of Christmas songs from some of my favorite... Christmas time. Christmas movies. Right, I'm going to go for a bit of Bing Crosby. Who is Ben Crosby?

Who is Bing Crosby? He is like an old-school actor. I will know it. You'll know his voice. You'll know his voice. Do it. It's sexy, sexual. It's hot.

It is hot. And this is called, I'm going to try and attempt the name of the song. It's called Meleki Maka. And it's the Hawaiian Christmas song. And it's used in the movie National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. It's one of my favorite ever. Let's educate you on who Bing Cronby is. Edgimication.

Merry Christmas. It's Kevin. It's Popperton is Kent Jones. and usually I like to be in the front but right now this is back, we're on chill Yeah, man That is good I feel Christmasy now

You feel all, yeah We've got Kevin in the festive spirit This is good How are you guys getting festive at home What is your Christmas tradition How do you feel festive? What is it watching Home Alone Which I did watch recently

That normally gets the job done One or two I watched one, I'm gonna watch two Because three and four are pretty shit Three and four don't exist They don't even exist In my mind Damn three and four

No you gotta know it's got to be one or two two and in the second one not looking forward but I'm looking out for seeing Trump Trump is in number two if you didn't know that little factoid first factoid of the day

Oh yeah in the hotel He's in the lobby and um The lifts down that way boy I'm gonna build a wall Excuse me where's the lobby He's like go down there and turn of right But have you seen there's a meme going on the internet Where he's like excuse me where's the lobby

He's like oh go down there and turn right Grab by the Pussy I'm going to build a wall You build a wall around Anywho So yeah Let us know Email in

We'll shout you out What Christmas things do you do At home To get yourself Email us In the spirit Email Chill at Fubbaradio.com

Right It'll be showbiz news What's going on in the world Of entertainment Do you, strange things Have you seen any stranger things? No but I've been told about it Oh my heaven

Is it another good one Heaven forgive you Kevin it's fantastic really fun really good lot of fun damn daniel and um anyway the main girl from it

so it's about this boy just as a quick if no one doesn't know what the hell strange things is it's set there was three little kids yeah it's set in the 80s and it's about these four boys

I like it already you love it right yeah four boys with best friends one of the boys goes missing and then they find this girl but you're not sure if she's a girl at first because she's got shaved head and she's a run away from this like weird

science from west world she's a tel her telepathic so she can do crazy stuff she's got powers and she's a run away from like a science experiment camp um decent and she hasn't got a name she's just called number 11

and she is awesome and so she... number two you had a number two um so the girl the actress called Millie Bobby Brown who kind of stole the show completely she's so bad ass she shaved her head for the role and like she's just so amazing

would you shave your head for a sandwich No. For a role. I'm not a centre. See what I did there? Ha ha ha ha ha. The dad jokes got in. Kevin's in the house.

The uncle joke. Oh, no. Christmas uncle joke. No. I... So, what, you've thrown me with my joke. Sorry, darling. I'm sorry.

Yes, I would shave my head for a role. But Millie Bobby Brown, who's the actress from Stranger Things, she is relocated to L.A. with her family. She's from England. I didn't realize as well. She's English. British. She's British. But acting in American...

Cups of tea? And she does it so well, I didn't even know until I saw an interview with her that she's so English. But guess how much she's able to... You don't look at it. Guess how much is she able to get now for a film? You do this too many week. I don't know. Millions.

Yeah. 3 million per film is her like rough price. Jesus. Starting price. She's 11 years. She's 12 now. Oh, one thing, sorry to interrupt. David Beckham's son has a Christmas song out.

Yeah, isn't he like... Okay. Isn't he like 11 as well? Yeah, I think so. Cruz? Is it? Crews? Brooklyn, Cruz?

No, one of the Beckham. The smaller one, isn't it? Cruz. He's like a young Justin Bieber. But is he as good as Justin Bieber? Is it all right? Potentially.

Potentially. He's a Beckham, darling. He is one of the Beckham crew. Cruise, crew. Cruise. Cruise. I just think that's insane. This girl's picked out of nowhere and she's on Stranger Things and now she can do

3 million per film and apparently when she turns 16 that can like double or triple. Wow. She is got up. She's just got it sorted. I'm not jealous or anything. Bitch. So Forbes, every year, Forbes magazine, they collate a most overpaid actor list. Savage.

In the world. I know. That's a bit mean. Guess who's number one, the most number that he's paid the most, but returns the less. Go on. Johnny Depp. No. Apparently, so.

No way. Johnny Depp is the number. How can they put Depp at number one? He gets paid the most money, but like sales-wise of his films doesn't return the most money. But he's done everything and been everyone. But apparently, say, he's paid the most money. Screw you, Forbes. Second one is Will Smith.

I think it's because their price tag is so high. The film has got to do amazing. And if they do a couple of dud films... Oh, right. Okay, I'm with you. But they're the ones too bigest actors, actors. They're still the most overpaid actors. And then followed by Channing Tatum, Will Ferrell, George Clooney, and Adam Sandler.

Wow. But they're all my top ten favourite. I know. They're all amazing actors, and they're all that got funny films. It's just like... They're the most overpaid for what they are, for what they do. I love elf. Oh, yeah.

Santa's coming! Santa's coming! It's crazy. Okay, dokey. So, finally, my bit of news, they are making a real-life Barbie movie. No, no, wait, so you find out who's playing Barbie? They've cast Barbie, and it caused an internet, like,

absolute kick-off. Go on. Amy Schumer. Refresh me. Oh, my goodness. Amy Schumer, she's the comedian. And she does, films like train wreck

and oh you will know her face. I will know her face, I'm terrible with names. She's blonde and she's known for being you know a normal size girl kind of curvy, so that's 12, 14ish. Daddy like her. She's daddy likey. She's very funny and... The name is built. I would know

her face. Amy Schumer, yeah, she's on Google Amy Schumer. Anyway, she's been cast as Barbie in the new upcoming Barbie movie and the internet went crazy because obviously she's not like super duper skinny. She's you know, she got curves. Feminism.

And she got fat shamed massively by everyone. Yeah, and so she replied to the internet basically saying, fuck you guys. I'm big and I'm beautiful and I'm going to play Barbie. We'll go to have curves. Real women have curves. Yeah. Will ladies.

Real ladies. I'm fond of the ladies. You're fond of the chub? Fund of the chub. Sassy. So Amy Schumer, yeah, give her a Google because I'm a huge fan of her. I think she's amazing and I think I wouldn't be interested in going to sing a Barbie. film but I would if Amy Schumer plays

her because she's really... Who's playing Ken? I don't know. Maybe you? You make a good kid. Damn right, I'd make a good kid. Hey Barbie. Yeah, so that's pretty weird. Okay, anything else going on? No, that's all my showbiz news for this week. We're trying

to get Noel on the phone. He's going to be our first guest if we can line up, but he's on set so he's probably being run around and powdered by... What's he filming? Do you? not know? I don't know if I can... I don't know if I can say... Go what. I don't know if I can say.

Is it? What? Top Boy. No. No. No. Because that's coming back for series three. Is it Top Boy?

I think it's called Top Boy. Top Boy, yeah. I always get confused. Top Boy, that. It's Drake's Funding Top Boy. I heard that Drake is funding Top Boy. I heard because he liked one and two, series one and two. Wow.

I won't see what I heard for the Great Voice. I can't confirm or deny that because I don't know. I don't want to give out the wrong thing. We'll look into it on the next song break. Right. Okay. So yeah, we're talking to songs. We've got, I've got another Christmas song from the Home Alone soundtrack.

Just to be a little bit mellow because nobody's starting drinking. Well, I hope people... Jingle bells, jingle bells. Oh, it's not quite that one. Oh, no, it's cool. Please come home for Christmas. It's one of the more mellow ones from the soundtrack. But it's one of my Christmas songs.

I've just got an email in rather embarrassingly from my mother. Hello, Mom. As it's nearly Christmas and I've listened to every one of your shows, can you please dedicate a Christmas song to me? And hello, Kevin. Hello, darling. So that's my mother. I look forward to meeting you.

Oh, so. Are you coming to the Christmas friday? I don't think parents should come to the Christmas soror. Come, I would like to meet you. What stays in the soror? Johanna could call me my stepfather. Can you stop me here? I'm joking.

Oh my God. Kevin Freshway is here on my mum. Oh my God. Okay, let's get to the song. Cut to the song. Move. Right. This is from home alone, guys.

Kevin. So we're nice and chilled. A bit of Christmas music. Right, now we're going to turn it up. We've got our first guest in the studio. Live guests. We've got Harry Hugo. Welcome, welcome. Thanks for coming on the show. No worries. And everything, I'm just tumble checking.

Everyone's mics up. Yathras. All right. We're also, Harry. We have, we've got four cameras in the studio. Wow. Are we not? They're like hidden cameras?

They're all around you. Are we live? We're not live yet, no, because we go Facebook live every week for a portion of the show. That will happen a little bit later on. But I sort of say this because you, we work on the internet and you work kind of on the internet. Yeah, behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. You're like the road manager, stage manager of a lot of internet people.

Yeah, we do like to introduce sort of what it is and what you do. Yeah, I mean, and so the last sort of 18 months is when a massive boom with people online with large followings on Facebook like you guys or Snapchat, Instagram. Vine was a massive pop and then it's obviously gone off. It's Vine's stopped now. Vine's died. Yeah, yeah, it stopped, yeah. I've never used it. It was massive for some people.

Six seconds. Yeah, yeah. Daffa went huge on their. Six seconds, six, six, six secrets. Exactly. And then Snapchat's massively taken off. And you've got Twitter, which went out of massive spike in like 09 to 11. And then it's kind of dying off now.

But Facebook's gone through this resurgence. And YouTube's obviously been that kind of constant throughout. Yeah. What would you say was the biggest platform for you personally? Right now to sell brand deals and things like that for people like you guys, Facebook's massively on resurgence, but YouTube's just been the constant way. YouTube's the king. Yeah, but YouTube's hard to break.

YouTube's the daddy. There's so many people doing YouTube, and it's been around since the beginning. And it's so difficult. It's so difficult to get the high-quality content. These guys are killing it who've been doing it for years and years and years. I know that's the job at the moment. I've started a vlog, yeah. How's that going? I'm starting it with Jube.

We've recorded last weekend, he went to meet my parents, and I thought, why not vlog it? That would be great. He's good for that, well. Yeah. So we've logged the whole experience, which is fun. It's relatable. That's the sort of stuff in the sky so well. That massively has spiked in the last 18 months.

The relatable content, people with the Facebook tag your friends, if you're like that, that has just gone crazy. Whereas the last sort of three years before that, it was just all about, you know, things that you see and then you might tell a friend, but now with the tag a friend, like it's just gone. This is so you. This is us.

This is what we do. Oh my God. This weekend. This dog looks like you. I'm going to tag 130 people. more in this post because it reminds me of all of them I mean that's why I like Facebook actually because I'm I used to be a

big watcher of YouTube and I attempted a few years ago to do YouTube I've got still up to do the YouTube I tried to do the YouTube on the line I did like some of like beauty guru stuff oh wow really transformed yeah

it's still online it is still on I've kept it up there just for jokes I'm going to watch it also kind of got quite good view so I kept it out there But, um... 12, 12 views. So I got 12, no, I've got like 150,000 views on a couple of videos. Which for YouTube is mad.

Hi, bye, yeah. Good story, bro. But, um, yeah, like, I used to watch a lot of YouTube and that. That was what I do every night. More than TV, I just go on YouTube and YouTube and I... Yeah, it's a habitual thing where Facebook now is completely taken over because it's just there. Yeah. And people are tagging you all the time.

You get notifications where YouTube's just, you know, people go back onto it on the evening. You just kind of roll through it yourself. But that's what I like about Facebook, because when I realize, is that you could get, yeah, you can get tagged in stuff and you can share it just by click of a button. And it's changed the lot over the years. It's ridiculous changed. I remember when it first come out?

I hated it. Facebook. I'm never going to Facebook. Yeah. That is. Facebook's like been a roller coaster the last 10 years. Like it said, like it was massive. Like all the kids were on it from universities.

And then it went through the space for like three years where all parents started to get on it, grandparents. You're like, oh, I don't want to be here. Everyone went to Twitter and Instagram. And now the, video resurgence. I do like the gram. Massive.

I do like the gram. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Is that your platform of choice? Facebook. Facebook is my platform choice. But I'm bit sick of it all in a minute.

I don't post ever anymore. That's no good. You get back on it. That whole like... In the new year, get back on it. Yeah, of course. I have got a few things lined up. But the whole like...

The money's in. I'll post what you want. You lost me now. I train of fault. I hate the fact that if you don't post about it, like people just a show. assume you like they look at me look at me I'm here I'm doing this look at where I'm

eating I'm at STK I'm at this place I'm on the roof terrace like yeah fuck off pretty much so that sounds bad that's how I got sick of that side of it yeah I'm finding that look at me look at me I never used to do Instagram my Instagram I literally occasionally would just put up like oh I'm having a burger or whatever and then suddenly as it like a flow through from all the other social media's my Instagram's growing and like I was like oh my God there's like the pressure there's like I feel like I should put, I feel like I should take a selfie. And weirdly, I've noticed they're the ones that get the most likes. I'm like, really, I'm not into, I'm not a selfie person naturally.

I don't really do selfies as well. Yes, you do. No, I don't. I thought you're doing one on the way in. Check my. It was actually selfies that started it off for me, selfies of strangers. I just go up to people and just. Oh, that was your first face for video that you did that went by right.

And it was only a publicity stunt to promote my clothing company. I didn't plan to be a video content creator. It just kind of happened. Happened. It just kind of happened. Overnight, you know. Yeah. Lots of people find that.

They just, they stumble upon one piece of, one piece of content. There's a few guys that we know really well and work really closely with that, you know, just did that one piece of content that they've been thinking up or chatting with their mates with for years. And they just finally went, oh, fuck it, I just do it. But sometimes, I'll find that if I think, oh, this is gold, this is a great idea. I put it in line, it does shit. I go, I'll put it on and see how this one does. And it fucking gets millions and really, really, really.

Really, people? I had no idea when I, my viral videos, I had. 80 million plus, let's just have a round. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, come on. I, like, wrote them and had these ideas, and at the time, the guys that I make my videos with, like my boyfriend and his camera guy,

they weren't too buzzed about it. They were like, oh, well, we'll put it on your channel, like. Oh, what a mistake. Not really. Screw you, Jim. They're like, we're not really, maybe for your channel. We'll be a Johanna James original, this one. And I was like, okay.

And I made it, edited it, put it online, and then suddenly it was just merely, and then they went, oh shit. So maybe we can cross share that. But Harry, so what do you do as a job now? So you work behind the scenes, you work with these people who are creating this content. So we are the Go agency. We work with all these guys and put them into campaigns with brands.

So we work with people like Apple, BBC Sport. We work with people like KFC, British Airways and all these sort of guys. McDonald's. I've been seeing a lot of McDonald's ones floating about. McDonald's, yeah. And they've obviously got another agency deal, but they're doing a lot of stuff. Joe Tesker.

Yeah. Moves out of a good with a singer, Samant for Harvey. Samantha Harvey. Yeah. So they're doing really well and they're kind of tapping into this influencer world

across all these different platforms. And yeah, we sell to brands like all the TV networks used to do in the radio networks. We sell advertising space effectively and we sell that through influencers and the space that they create on social media. So if you get 20,000 views on your Snapchat,

that has a cost, that has a worth if an advertiser want to pay for it. Same that, you know, if ITV2 had a... Crazy, isn't it? because it's a sort of bit mental, people are willing to pay for it. I've fallen into it out of kind of just love for doing this sort of stuff online. And we had a company before that was a sports app company. And I was right at the start of that.

And my two other co-founders at Go, we started that. And what's the name of your company, sorry? Goat agency now. Goat agency. There's all sorts of synonymous meaning. But Sport Lobster was the first thing. and we raised 17 million quid of investment. We did really well.

We had 2.5 million users in two years. Christiana Ronaldo is our headline ambassador. NFL, NBA sponsorships. Did you get to meet him? Yeah, we did everything. We had an awesome two years. And we realized what works and what didn't, and influencers drove 95% of our growth.

But we put very, very little spend. Strange, because I've never received an email. So we left that company and went, okay, hold on, there's more money to distribute to these guys and work better. And if we actually work this out together and create cool campaigns and creatives, then there's far more value to be driven. And that was 18 months ago when there was three of us.

And now there's 15 of us in the company. We've raised no money because we wanted to do it. Is it your company? You just worked? Oh, well. So, like, it's going well. Do you have a boyfriend? Are you looking for one?

I can be taught to do anything. Go get master of a boyfriend. If it's a spawn, if it's a spawn and maybe we can work something out. But there's all sorts of stuff that we do, and we do it with the biggest brands in the world, which has been incredibly fortunate to do it at a small amount of time. But, yeah, it's really exciting, and there is a lot changing in this space.

And, you know, you sort of guys are leading the way in the content. So what I was. It's been a little while. He started doing some more selfies in the street. Yeah. Because I get a lot of messages from people who they want to do it as well, which is what I love about. the internet entertainment world

as opposed to like maybe the traditional TV film whatever because obviously to to be in a movie there is a lot of it's very hard to get through the doors and training and the whatever however with the internet it is kind of an open world if you can get yourself the camera and you have the talent and you can use that network

this is a touchy subject for me okay I'll watch some people's content no names and I really want to say a couple names but it rhymes with schmack shmoolems yeah but yeah that's one again you just

ruin my trade okay so they get terrible content graders they've got a lot yeah that's what you're talking about Gabby D fat

lesbian looking middle later there's a few others as well but they get put on but say not so much with schmack schmones but there's another there's another thing

I'm potentially gonna be working with them they're potentially gonna be working with soon they get put on by big companies so fall to fire the page. Yeah.

Color switch. Yeah. The content's crap. They get all this exposure from this company because they're putting colour switch and their video. And then they don't deserve

all these millions of followers that they've received. Are you talking about me? No. Sounds like me. Again, it depends. I'd even do it. Approach me at Christmas time last year

and I weren't really doing videos. I would personally do it because it does help blow you up. But some people they don't deserve that. massive following and all them views are getting and that might sound a bit like yeah no I think you're right

I think you're right I mean some people and some people work really hard some people work really really and never had any any help to get to all them views and get to what you do and that is amazing and there's some content creators on YouTube they're black overnight because they're getting they know the right people and they're getting the right shares and that's life right I guess yeah but there's

people on YouTube like pushing out like two three videos a day of like 10 20 minutes I'm like how can you do that it's incredible And you look at all these other guys And some people post once a week And it's like a 30 second thing or whatever And it's just a quick sorry to this

There's a lot of sorry to your fans And that's supposed to be a quite of the thing at the moment Guys, I've just been told that we have Noel Clark on the line He's live from the set of where he is So we're just going to pop over to him and get a bit of goss from back Sage, let's see if this works Knowlington, are you there? I'm here, baby

Are you with it? You're on my show. Hey, baby! I'm keeping your seat nice and warm Don't worry, I've got your sleep with nice and warm Who is it? I'm not even, I'm on set, I haven't been listening to me. Oh, this is Kevin Freshwater. Hello. He's filling in for you.

As a guy, you're what? I'm good, man. I'm keeping your seat nice and warm. It's all right. I've got a toasted for it when you get back. That fucking chair gives me trouble, man. Every week, Noel breaks the bloody chair. So, where are you? What's happening? Where are you? Mate, I'm in the middle of fucking butt-fuck nowhere, mate. I get some things everywhere. It's dark. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

I'm just, but I'm on set. I can't tell you what it is. Oh, is it secret, hush-h-h-h. Okay. Well, we're a film show. We talk about films and shit like that, and you know sometimes. But, you know, my other job is when I'm actually on the films, I can't tell you where I am. But when I'm not on the films and I'm on the show,

I can tell you every fucking thing. You know what it's like. Need to know basis. I don't need to know. So, but, so you're filming outside, we can get, we can... In the dark. In butt, fuck, nowhere. I can mean anything.

Yeah, basically, now, if this was Blair Witch Three, I'd believe it. I'm like, fucking a tree. and branches and shit in front of me come outside to make sure I get on the show because it's the Christmas one and it's the last one and all the listeners that have supported myself and Johanna and Kevin and everyone else that have filled in

obviously we're very appreciative but you know obviously when I'm not there because I'm filming you know Johanna holds a fort you guys take over and it's you know we're all very appreciative and it's great and I just wanted to make sure that I get on and thank the listeners and all that kind of shit

someone's definitely got the Christmas spirit that's emotional daddy's back next week Daddy? Daddy? I love her Who's your daddy, mate? Radio Daddy. My mom loves it as well.

She's already emailed in. My mom's already emailed in today. She's on it. What's she saying today? She wanted to get a shout out for a Christmas song. Oh, mate. Did you play her song? Which I did.

I did. I played her a song. That's great. Mrs. White, you know, you know that daddy's going to be. that with a big bar of top with you in the new year and you ran your daughter

so it's all good can everyone stop hitting on my mum today I hate to see a photo she needs a bit she needs a bit so what's happened what did you review today what films are you talking about today

well we haven't done any reviews yet but I went to see last night more than I go and said I went to see Manchester by the sea oh sounds terrible no my god no it's the Oscar nominated come on Noel oh great I can get that in my year

I should be getting that in my my uh I remember She said Well brief No no Absolutely And like I went

You know Just trying to be open minded And it was really good Casey Affleck Ben Affleck's little brother It's like It's like the lead guy And then Michelle Williams

Oh fantastic Well you can see I obviously don't keep up to date When I'm not actually on the show Yeah you're in the woods Literally Fucking Blair witch Making the next

And what else What else is that? I also went to see Last night The same night I did like a double film review And then I went to see

a screening of The Room, which is not Room, the recent film, it's called The Room, and it was made in 2001, I think, by Tommy With the little kid, and there you, she's stuck in... No, no, that's called Room. That's a good one. No, so you're the film you're talking about. It's supposedly the worst film ever made, and it gets

shown once a month in London, and it's like a comedy screening, and it was an amazing experience. Everyone was heckling, and shouting, and laughing, and ad-libbing. It was actually a really good night out. Oh, brilliant. And you, here's a bit of movie trivia for you guys, Jahanna, you probably know this, there's a film that we're doing at the minute called 10 by 10,

which is being announced as starring Luke Evan and Katie Whitey. And the name of that film used to be called what? Why did you have to change the name? What was it called? The Room. It was called The Room. People thought that the rub of firstly the shitter's film of all time called The Room,

and also the fact that there was an Oscar film called Room, last year is that one of the little girl the Oscar one yeah that's good yeah it's actually a little boy I remember

they had long hair it's a little boy with long hair yeah I thought it was a girl 2016 2016 mate people who are

going to have long hair I know I've got long hair curly long hair this so pretty looks like an angel yes so I'm excited about that and

I know but on Manchester by the sea was very good it was like it was long and it was at first five minutes I was like oh it's going to be one of those dependent, like make me think

really slow. But no, it's really gripping and really beautiful and it's kind of about this guy whose brother dies and he has to go back to this town called Manchester on sea and sort out all the, what happens after someone dies. And it's kind of the fallout how each of the family members cope and

don't cope with this. And there's humor in it as well, but then it's but then also drama and yeah, I understand why the Oscar people are going, woohoo. That sounds awesome. I'm so happy considering I thought it sounded terrible

now knowing it's going to be one of the best films in the year I've just won, haven't I? That's like a win-win It's a win-win, yeah, if you wander into Manchester by the sea I said to people, I'm going to go and see Manchester by the sea and they're like, what, you're going to Manchester? What? I'm like, no, it's a film, it's good, Casey Affleck and it made me cry, made me laugh Whatever if it makes you quiet. I got all the feels I'm emotional, I'm an emotional person

I don't think our show's on next week, Joe. What? Which is why I'm on the phone today. No, no, we're on next week. There's the last show of the year. Don't make her cry. Don't cancel. Check with the producers out there.

They're out of the window. They're waving yes to me. There is a show next week. Oh, well, you tell her. She fucking told me there wasn't. She's trying to get rid of me. She's got it all red. Beef.

Beef. She's going to get a spank. She's going to get a spank. Daddy's going to spank you. Okay. Oh, great. What the fuck am I doing on the phone If I'm just showing next week

Fuck all you guys I'm going back to fucking Blair Witch country But thank the listeners For, thank the listeners for tuning in as usual I'll love you and leave you because I got films to make Okay, cool Thank you babe, thank you babe

Natalie, you're going to get such a spank next week It's going to be unbelievable She looks excited She looks happy, please She fucking loves it Don't let her phone by that stuff Johanna baby I love you I love you, Keth thank you

See later Sorry, who else was there This is Harry Hugo He's an internet whiz he's with us Harry Hugo, my man thank you brother for turning up on our show

yeah thanks for calling in from the woods thanks for calling in from the woods survive mate survive keep your head down alright bye over and out

bye right there we go that was Noel from the woods didn't give us very much information about what he was doing in the woods

but he's filming and I know what he's filming and I can't say either tell us you bitch I can't do it nope he's filming

no I can't I can't do they rhyme with smish-marsham he's not with shmachmashm he's not with shmachshmach he's filming with Schmack Schmonds in the woods. No, no, no.

As soon as he's able to announce it, obviously, he'll tell all the goss on back row and chill at a later date, but he's very, very busy. Right, we're going to pop to a song, and then we can come back and talk a little bit more internet ins and out. So, ooh, I'm going to go for, does anyone know the series True Blood? Does anyone see it?

The vampire thing? Yes. Well done. Ten points. Ten points to Gryffindor. To Gryffindor. I'm going to sliver in. Are you? Oh, father of the sexual uncle, Joe. Wow.

Right. This is the opening theme tune from True Blood, and I just love it. I love that show. And it's about set in, like, the deep south. Is it the two guys and the girl? Yep. Yeah.

The deep south where this, a waitress falls in love with the vampire. And then she finds out like... Still a better love story than Twilight. Well, it's set in the whole... It's like an anti... This came out around the time of Twilight, but it was like an alternative.

Because Twilight was so... The vampires didn't even have teeth, and they were just like, all glittery and like, oh, you. But this is like true kind of Game of Thrones style vampires. There's a lot of blood, a lot of sex, a lot of fun, it's all the deep south. No time watching tonight. I guess.

It was like, I want a second. A lot. In my hotel room. It's sad times, sad times. Okay, so this is a bad thing from true blood. You're listening to Back Row and Shill. With Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Do you see how sexual life?

How you learn it? I just notice how good you are with that. Oh, thank you. I didn't know how to do radio until I tried this. That was my next question. I had to learn how to do this. It's very fun. I'm worried that if I was to touch any of those buttons,

the radio just go off. Go for it. Do you want to touch one of those, touch my button, there you want. Which one, which one? Living. Oh, hell no. That's my favourite one.

That's my favourite one. That's my favourite one. And when does that get used? It's when I disagree with something. I'm like, oh, hell now. Do some more. What, another one? Yeah, one more.

Okay. I want the world to know. Got to let it show. I'm coming. A bit late on that one, Kevin. Right, so, back to Harry. We've still got Harry Hugo in the studio. We're talking all things, sort of internet, entertainment,

what the future of entertainment, I believe, is on the internet. Yeah, same. What platforms do you guys really see as the next sort of emerging ones? I don't. At the minute, there's nothing. don't ask me how dare you Snapchat

I've heard rumors from people I've had meetings with Well I think Snapchat's the biggest From making money If you've got the big followers Yeah so Snapchat People have said like

Great Snapchat great Snapchat But we're not sell out We don't make any money We do it all for you guys We do it just for the fun The audience Everything's for the audience The fans

I think that's changed I think in the last 18 months There's been a understanding From the audience More so that you have to get paid in order to get. And you used to get all like you sell out. Yeah, used to get a lot of hate. I think it's changed. It has. As long

as you're still creating good content that's true to the content you've been creating whilst you were growing. I think I don't think people care that much. I think people, you know, like some people get annoyed at adverts on TV. Oh, it's the adverts. Fast forward or oh, I'm going to go up. That's similarity. But then they like the John Lewis advert, when it's

good and they engage with it, that's the same thing. But people, yeah, they understand that there are but now people, it's just the adverts, you know. And it's the same as before, like, In England, especially, America was fine. They would all do comedy sketchy stuff. And that used to do shit. It's really bad, yeah.

You can swear on the radio. I can't fucking swear. He just says it quietly into the mic. Yeah, I forget, because I swear a lot. And then I think, shit, I'm on the radio. I don't remember, you can fucking swear to Fubber Radio. You can. Yeah, comedy sketches didn't used to do well in England.

Really didn't do well. No. And I think it's just this year that they've really done well. I think you and Jube influenced that a lot. People don't understand. how the amount of time we're making like one minute 45 second videos maximum

but you take all day to film that it takes hours and hours and then writing them editing them like it literally and you scrutinize every little like oh should we use that should we film it again and then you'd like it takes forever in a day and we love doing it that's why we do it because I love

the creative process of it but it is really hard to do that in your spare time it has to be a job and I think people are more they would prefer to have adverts and work with brands if they've got more content If they get more of your content, because people just want more videos.

TV shows that they like, they're happy to watch or see the adverts or sit through the other. Because they actually want to see that get recommission. It's true. It's exactly the same thing. And it's kind of the move from TV into all these different platforms. And Snapchat is going to be massive in that. So I never Snapchat. I never do it.

Oh, come on. I struggle to, when I was on my, I struggled to just do Instagram and Facebook. I struggled. I never tweet you and never done any of that stuff. Because I'm not really social media wires. I don't understand. Even though you have a massive following on social. I know, but it was again, it was all accident.

No, it was never planned to be a point of media. But I don't get like, you stumbled across a follow. You're stumbled across a follow. I don't understand. I shall teach you, young Jedi, the ways of the internet. Fun now. What's a fun now? Oh my goodness.

Kevin, Kevin. Kevin! No, absolutely. So, I mean, moving forward with your job, what is the sort of, in the future, you would like to be able to liaise shows or brands with... I think the brands are getting smarter and smarter and they have really smart enough in the last six months. You know, when we started the company,

it was very, very early doors in terms of influence of marketing and how they wanted to approach it and the kind of budgets they were spending on it and they were testing things and they were skeptical of whether it worked and whether these ads, you know, were widely thought of as ads and people cared or if they didn't care if the audience engaged. And that's changed hugely now.

Because everybody's on it now. And it works. It's simple as that. So are you just like the middleman or do you have an actual platform with you share content? No, I'm the middleman. Yeah. Which is the key to any business. Yeah, yeah.

Introducing Peter to Paul. We sell to the brand. We say this is the brand that we want to work with. This is the campaign that we want to do. And then these are the influences and the content, the creative. You never fall back setting up your own platform to? No. Well, we had the social network, the sports social network,

and that was our precursor to this company that we've got now. and we left that because we saw such an opportunity in this influencer space. And because it's blowing up and all the new platforms that allow new influencers and the new features, you know, Instagram Live comes out in the next couple of weeks. Does it? And people will go, oh my God, this is amazing. Of course it does, because Instagram's just copying everyone else in the world. Instagram's just saying like, oh, stories, put that on.

Oh, live, put that on. But that was the first filters. That was the first one to have filters. Oh, Instagram. Ding. Go ahead and take your time. It's fine. We'll wait.

We'll wait for you. Work never stop. So just to close, I'm imagining if any of our listeners, because if anyone is sort of budding creators and they want to... Email in. Email in. But also, what is the sort of minimum goals that people need to try and achieve before brands would...

Before it can translate into hobby to job. Yeah, I think the main thing is, and we talked about there's quite a lot at Go, and when we talk to lots of different creators, is if you're going into being a creator in order to chase money, this is not the job for you. No. No.

No. No. No. No. If you're chasing money, you're going to create content that isn't true to you, and that's just not going to resonate with the audience. Think of it more of like a perk that you love to do and somebody's willing to pay to do it then.

Yeah, exactly. And that's his life goal. It's like, oh, I quit my day job and make funny videos. Yeah, and there's always a niche, right? And so there's always a product in your niche. So if you're a gaming influencer, and obviously people have made shitload of money from gaming. They have. You know, but if you'd have looked at that 10 years ago, you'd go,

they're never going to be able to do anything. McDonald's aren't going to be able to pay for them to do anything. Well, actually, there's so many brands that can pay for them to do stuff. So, you know, all those different things have to come into it. And if you're creating content that obviously you started that you loved, then it's, that's what makes a real difference. And then you grow because you love it

and you keep doing it, and you're doing consistently, which is what you obviously were starting to do at the beginning. And then brands get, can't touch of you. And it does open a lot of doors. We did do a lot of traveling, went to America a bit, went to Ireland, or off the back of just. just making videos. Yeah, cool stuff happens.

But people, I think people assume, because YouTubers, they make a hell of a lot of money. Hey, it's the top. The top YouTubers. The top YouTubers. Like, he's a million in there. He's got his own movie.

The top YouTubers. But I'm talking about, so, when I had a viral video and people, and they were like, whoa, it went like 80, 100 million views. And they were like, you must be loaded. I was like, I didn't make a single penny off that video. I just made it for love. Because I found money.

They monetized Facebook. Are you not monetized? twice, I'm not. She's not better about it. I mean, I would have been loaded if I was monetised. Between them two videos, if you were monetised on Facebook and they're 80 million, I don't even want to tell the figures, I'm not even going to tell them the figures.

It would have been good. She would have made a lot, double fix, she would have had a comma. There would have been a big comma in between. I would have taken home a comma. But no, I think 20,000 is probably the mark where you have to really start, it's different for different platforms. Instagram, you're probably looking at 20 to 50,000 before you really start getting noticed, but again, it depends on the niche. For you as a company, what, what was, how many followers, Facebook, for example, how many followers?

20,000. That's Instagram and then Facebook's higher because the engagement rate is so much worse because of the reach. What would you say on Facebook, views and following wise? What would you say was the cutoff line? Probably 50,000 fans, but you have to be getting. Followers, like, yeah, yeah, likes. But then the growth has to be on the views and actually how many engagements you're getting, the likes. Because that's actually what you genuinely sell.

The reach is good. And I thought our fan, personally, my reach is strong. than my following because I go That's great. That's easy. It's very, very big in the UK. So if I'm out in Essex, where I'm from, from Brentwood, if I'm out on a night out in Brentwood, everybody recognises me. Everybody's photos, I love it. I enjoy

it. It's a good feeling because you're getting recognised for what you do. And I go, but they don't actually follow me, they've seen you on the Unilads or the lad bibles or the other platforms. And they don't, I go, no, we don't actually follow it up, but they know you. Cheers, guys. Cheers, man. Loyal. Bitch. Take a second.

Get your phone, no. I'll do that for you. Here, let me. Allow me. Yeah, like, when girls ask for your number, just be like, here, like this. Just like that. Just like that.

Right, thank you so much, Harry, for coming on. I really like the fact that we can talk about social media as well. And I am in talks with some of the guys at Unilad to come on the show and, like, give us a kind of weekly top viral video rundown and things like that. So, China Incorporate film and film, film, TV, theatre and social. So thank you so much, Harry, for coming. open? Yes? He's coming down. I like him. Nice.

Right, okay, we're going to pop to another song. So, I'm going to go for Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, how far? What shall I do? What shall I do? Oh, office Christmas party. That's always going to be a hit. Have you seen the movie? I've seen it. I'm going to discuss it afterwards,

but I'm going to play you one of the songs from because it's called Super Jam, and it's like a Deck the Hall's remix. It's pretty cool. So let's just go to that. And then we've got our next guest, Philadelphia, in the studio after 5 o'clock. Back row and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio.

So we're all pumped now for a night out. Yeah. Ouch. Shorts, shorts. Shots fired. Nothing says Christmas like a migraine. Well, welcome, everybody. This is Phil Adel, actor.

An old friend. Hello. Hello. We used to work together many years ago on like a telephone helpline. Yeah. How do you describe that without saying the name of the company? It was a telephone helpline where people could call in to help. We were helping them.

It was basically a phone, we were in a phone centre. It was a glorified call centre, basically. We're trying to sound posh, but it was a call centre. They called something. Cool centre, cold calling? No, yeah. No, we weren't calling out. They were calling us, which I thought initially would be better.

And it wasn't. But it's not because people who call helplines are very angry and very upset and very... You're 44 in the line. Your call is very important to us. It's really not. It's really lovely. Hello, Johannes Baconel. Clark Can I help you with Darling.

That's exactly what I did. Pretty much. No, it was very stressful and fun. But it was great because I got to meet a whole bunch of really cool actors and we made friends. Yeah, man. We bonded. Bondage.

So I haven't seen you in a while, Phil. Yeah. Have you been up to you in the world of the industry? Crazy, really. Like, this year's actually been really good for me because I know everyone will tell you as an actor that it's been a shocking. year. It's just no work, no audition

is really tough. But this year, I've had a really good one. Not for me! Pat on the back! Me a little bit smug in the corner. I've been in constant work, actually. I've just finished a big tour of Little Shop Horrors. Which was awesome. I said, I love that movie.

I miss called that earlier. I said Rocky Shop of Horrors. Everyone gets the two mixed up. It's like a completely different. That Rocky Little Shop of Plants and things. Yeah. So, yeah, just did that for four months. like a UK tour of that which was wicked.

So you literally went around the whole of the UK. Feed me, see more. You should not have been in that show. But yeah, no, around the whole UK, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, well, the UK. I can name all the countries, if you like. Yeah, travelled at all, it was wicked. Like four months, so it was pretty intense. Four months away, or did you get to pop back?

At the start I popped back, because the venues were near to London. So I was coming back every other week or so. but then when you're going up to Glasgow, to Sheffield, to Belfast or whatever, it's not worth it for like a day or two in London. So, but yeah, it's quality really good. The responses were awesome, so it's nice to feel like you're in something good because a lot of times an actor, you're in someone you're like, I'm doing this for the credit, and it's not very good.

But that I was proud to be in, honestly proud to be in. So, yeah, it was wicked. I'm in a play. It's called, and it's showing... And it's showing in that place, and tickets were sold out, so you can't come in time. Oh, you missed it. What a shame. And doing something you're proud of, that's really cool.

Yeah, man, that's it, exactly. So, yeah, there's that. There's a couple of TV things I filmed, which I can't talk about. Okay. Yeah, I hate even mentioning that. Like, I do it on my podcast as well. We'll talk about, oh, I've filmed this thing, it's really awesome, but I can't tell you what it is.

It's kind of just cryptic nonsense. Yeah. So, yeah, a few things in the pipeline, which is good. Pretty busy, yeah, I can't complain. It's good when you film something, because you film it, And then a lot of time passes, and then you still have stuff to come out. So even when you finish the job, that's it. You still, like, what are you doing?

Well, I filmed this thing last year. It's coming out next year. So technically, I'm still working. That's it. Yeah, you can just pretend you're still in work the entire time until everything's released. And then you're like, oh, crap. Then you're like, right, great, I'll eat bread for two months. Yeah, I'm going to live on beans and tea, and that's it.

So how did you become an actor? Where was your journey? What have you done? Really random journey, because I started off as a kid as a musician, which still ties into a lot of what. I do now. I still sing. I still play guitar. I play several instruments and write music and we're going to review website and all stuff. And basically it started as a kid. I was in the school musicals, which I think everyone did, even if they now would be horrified to be after.

Bethlehem. Huh? Bethlehem at Christmas? I did one nativity when I was like four years old and it was excruciating even then. But yeah, it didn't put me off. So then like did school like Greece and all the ones that everyone does at school. Who did you play in Greece? I was Kincky. Oh. So I got to do a little bit of Greece Lightning. you know what I mean? Yeah. So yeah, and then from there, I kept on with the music,

and I had a really bad experience with my A-level music teacher. He basically hated me. And I went, well, sod music, not doing that. And then I went, what else do I love doing? I love acting. So I started auditioning for drama schools, moved to London, what, 10 years ago now. And that's kind of where it all took off from there. So.

Kept going. Kept going, as you have to. Do you know what you want to do? Don't give up. Yeah, it's such a slow grind to get to anywhere. So as long as you're passionate about it And you keep going That's it man, exactly

If you don't have that Ask the universe I see I'm not into that I haven't read the secret As everyone else seems to have read There's a movie coming out about that Is it really? Yeah

There's a Freudium Maybe a documentary about it Then there's a full on movie Because I saw someone saying Couldn't read the book But looking forward to the movie Oh man If you've read the book with secret

Or if you haven't read the book with secret It's going to be a movie Yeah But that mentality is super popular though everyone who's vaguely positive these days says, oh yeah, have you read the secret? There's other ways to be positive. You know what I mean?

You know, think happy. Cool, okay. And so what, and so you've, are you more of a film or a theatre? Where do you tend to... More theatre? Yeah. Really, yeah, I don't know why.

Like, I think it's, I mean, I've had more experience doing theatre for sure. And I really get a kick off that live, anything can go wrong aspect of it. Oh, yeah. Like radio. Yeah, right, exactly. What could possibly go wrong?

Kevin! And what went wrong is you invited me on your radio show. How did I work? I'm doing it, right? But yeah, even Little Shop, we just had, like, once, I won't even name him, an actor just didn't go on stage for his scene. And you've got a live audience.

Just like, I'm not going on. No, did just forgot. Oh. Like sat in his dressing room, plain forgot to go on stage. And the other actors are there like, okay, he's not coming. Let's improvise this whole scene around this mystery character who's not even... So I love that, though.

I love... What you have to do. I've always thrived on pressure. And I think... the pressure of theatre in a room full of 500 people really sparked something in me in a way that film doesn't I guess I still get excited by it but theatres the liveliness the liveliness good word

yeah good word you're edjimicated edjimicated I like that word on the intramineate I got my education come get myself a boyfriend I love my favorite thing about as an actor one of my favorite things is the stuff that goes wrong because it is the best stories later on.

Absolutely, man. When stuff goes wrong on stage, it's the most scariest thing. And I used to have actually a real phobia about forgetting my lines and I would almost always forget them because I was scared of forgetting them. And my brain would just like, it was like I was like self-sabotaging myself.

And I really had to like go through a thing with myself. I had to have a stern word and be like if it goes wrong, which it probably will because it's you, you can handle it, you can fix it and you can and you can improvise around it. Just do what Sean Paul does when he's on X Factor

and he forgets his lines for the song and he goes, Shandapal! He goes, y-woo! Shandapal! I don't know if that would work for me if I'm in a play and I just start going, you never know, Shadapal! Johanna James!

Shandapal. I love that. That is one of my favourite things of the forgetting lines. Because in terms of the pressure, there's no feeling that I arguably love more in theatre when you're listening to the other character's monologue and you know your response is coming up and you're just listening to them

and in your head going, I don't know my line it's not there, it's gone I don't know what's going to happen and then it just magically comes out of nowhere. You panic and I remember once coming and I opened the show like the first and I was waiting I was waiting in the wings

to go onto the theatre and being like okay because once the show gets rolling the show ain't going to end and dilip in it like once you start you can't stop unless it's a fire it's going to happen even if there's a fire Not even if there's a fire. But I remember starting, and I was very calm.

I felt really, really good. And then I was walking onto the stage in my little stage heels. And then in my head, I went, I don't know what I'm saying. I cannot remember a single thing about this play. Just going to stand silently on stage for 20 minutes and they can deal with it, right? You know what's going to happen now? Next time you do something, you forget your lines. All you got to be thinking is, shan de bar!

Shut up! And please do it. Please, if you have any opportunity to write this, just forget your lines, just shout on the pass. If you've ruined me forever now, if I ever were. look at the globe, that's going to happen in the middle of Macbeth, you know? Well, my friend, I had an actor friend who did a lot of Shakespeare, and I said, like, Shakespeare scared me for a while, because I thought, if I'd forget my line, I can't ad lib,

because I don't know how to ad lib in... In Shakespeare. In Shakespeare language. But he said, no, no, I've got that down, I'm fine. So he goes, if you do forget your line in a Shakespeare play, what you have to do is you have to turn to the person nearest to you, as if they're about, they're supposed to speak next. Okay.

And you say, and therein lies the end. end and you point to them and then you leave the stage. Just screw over your partner basically, right? And basically, it sounds like the end of a chapter and the next person's just like, what? So that's how to deal with Shakespeare. Awesome. I've learned something today. This is worthwhile.

This is great. You're all learning. You're welcome. You are welcome. Thank you very much. I'm a better actor for coming here today. I should start Johanna James acting tips section on this show. But he, also my favourite story that this guy, and I keep repeating this story because

I love it. he was performing somewhere quite prolific, like the National Theatre or something. But it was one of those theatres in the round. Right. So in a theatre in the round, it's kind of scary because there is no hiding anywhere. You can see everything from every angle.

You're just in the middle, a circular stage in the middle of all the people. So in the scene, he was playing dual characters. So he'd run on as the man servant, being like, yes, my lord, of course, my lord. The horse and carriages have arrived, my lord. And then he'd run off stage, and then he would be doing all the sound effects for off stage.

So like, click, plop, plop, plop. So he was running on, running off, running on, running off. And he said that he, like, ran onto the stage as the butler and just went, N. And made the horse noise. That's amazing. We're all done it. He didn't know how to recover.

And he just went, sorry, my lord. And they ran off again. Like it was some involuntary spasmary. He had that's something like that. Amazing. But, yeah, amazing, amazing. But I, forgetting my lines, however funny it is, at the time, it's not funny. Oh, it's terrifying. It's absolutely, it's absolutely blind terror.

It's, it's, it's, yeah, you panic, you're, I actually hear that. You know when, when you're on a heart machine and it flatlines? I hear that in my head, I hear, but I'm just like, shout a ball! Thay shorn of de Paulov. Thine shorn of the ball! My lord. I must see to my shorn of de Polov, right, okay.

So I applaud people who do it. I've done theatre. I haven't... I've done bits and bobs of theatre. I haven't really done a lot. And I really applaud people who do it. Sure. It does scare the crap out of me. And the last time I did try and do it,

I did this little scratch night, writing night thing for the Royal Court. And it was just a two-hander. And I hadn't done theatre in so long. I remember before I went on, I was getting myself so nervous. And I had a dialogue with myself in my head. And I thought, I went, what are you doing? You can't do. What are you?

Just go out. Just put your coat on. What are you doing? And I literally was almost at the point of being like, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry, this is a mistake. This is a massive mistake. I've made a great error. Is this not the ladies room now?

I'm like, this is not for me. I'm actually a teacher and I'm not supposed to be here. And then I, but then I was like, I can't. My scene partner's been rehearsing as well. I can't leave him. So I went out and I did it. And then we were doing a comedy thing. And obviously we were getting these live laughs.

And then I suddenly relaxed and I remembered why the hell I do it. But the five minutes. Terrifying. Five minutes before I was literally What are you doing? Have you ever seen that clip floats about Facebook and stuff? There's a black guy called Adi and he's gone into the news, like the BBC News interview or ITV news

interview but he's got the same name He's just to apply for the cleaning job Oh I've seen that. That's amazing. That's amazing. It goes to apply for a clean job and they get mixed Oh my idea because there's another guy called Adi coming on to talk about computer science technology Oh my gosh! And they're sitting in the chair he sat there and they're like hi with Adi goes

He's sitting there's all like ooh But live on the news, like, live. He goes with it, he runs with it. He just, like, does his best to try and pretend that he's that guy. Then he goes, okay, we've just found out that this is not Addy. But he's amazing. You literally see his eyes go, this isn't right, but he goes with it. And he's answering, he's trying to answer their questions on something he has no idea about.

That's true theatre. Absolutely, good on it, man. I'm not done, Annie. That's amazing. I'm here for the cleaning jumper. True theatre. I love it. Right, we're going to pop to a song, and then afterwards, I think we should move on to a couple of,

unusual film facts and things and bits and box. So I'm going to go retro. I've got some 80s, my favourite 80s movie, 16 candles. This is if you were here by the Thompson twins. Girl. Sinf, girl. 80s. I play synth.

We all play synths. Ross play synth. Everyone played the synth in the 80s. Everyone played. If you didn't play synth in the 80s, you wouldn't have a bad news. The dickhead song. I've not heard the dickhead song. I love the dickhead song.

All my friends are dickets too. I play sim. Simph. We all play Simph. We're Dickens. Yeah, love it. I'm completely missing out on that. I've no idea what you're talking about. Got one gear on my fixie bike. Got a plus one here for my gig tonight. It's like a hipster parody on YouTube.

Right. Okay. The song's called Dekeg. I will check it out. I will check it out. I'm going to play that next week. Yes. Yes, Kim. Thank you. Right. So we're joined with Philadelphia in the studio. Yo. I'm going to go, because last week I wrote some unusual film packs. Nice.

I didn't get to say on my show, so I'm going to say them now. Do it? While I've got airtime. So, did you know, we're going to just have a little talk about this. Samuel L. Jackson, he demanded that snakes on a plane was called snakes on a plane. And that title was not changed. Really? Because that was the only reason he accepted the role.

What was it going to be called then? Well, he didn't want it to be changed. So he said, if I come on board on the project, you have to keep it, snakes on a plane. But because you know what? I think he had a lot of money that guy. I've had a goddamn. Motherfucking snakes are on a plane. I think every time he said that, he got money, I think.

Oh, really? I think so, really. Yeah. That's the question of what was it called before. That's what I mean. Yeah. There may be a snake on this plane. Reptiles in the air.

Anacondas on a jet plane. That's number two. Yeah, cool. In the film, the National Treasure, not the National Treasure. Good film, good film. I love a bit of National Treasure. One and two.

So the good guys use Google, and the bad guys use Yahoo. No way. Controversial. Why? Say what? Shit, just blow my mind. Oh, hello.

I was hoping you'd use that. I was hoping you would use that. It's my favourite one. Yeah, definitely. So it's just a bit, I mean, you know, obviously, I think probably Google, I don't know why. Would Yahoo agree to that? I think they're like, Yahoo is bad. Yeah, evil, evil Yahoo.

It's conspiring to, like, do bad things. Brands do that, you know, because in Brotherhood, when we're making Brotherhood, last year. Apple donated some phones and some laptops and stuff to be used to be in the film. But the condition was that they could only be used by the good characters. And any of the baddies

had to have like a Samsung or a BlackBrew. That's amazing, as if. Yeah, so only Apple could be shown if it was a good, deemed a good character. But obviously that will translate into sales, otherwise they wouldn't do it. Yeah. The idea that a bad character using an Apple iPhone will somehow reduce its sales seems stupid to me.

But it might, but it might, but it But that's the rules that they don't want the, like, the, the enemy guys using Apple. Fair enough. Fair enough. So in a little, like, behind the scenes factoid in Lord of the Rings, Elijah Wood has Alka-Seltzer tablets to foam himself at the mouth when he gets stabbed by Shilob. Did Gandalf have an iPhone and did Solomon? Solomon.

Solomon. Solomon. Solomon. Solomon. You know I'm in. Pick on me, don't kick on me. What's his name? Salon.

Salaman. Salomon. Salon, is it? There's Sauron. And there's also Solomon. Yeah, there is a Solomon. Is there a Solomon? There's a Solomon.

Wait, guys, help us here. Email him. Email him. Gandalf the Grey. Gandalf. There's... There's Sauron. And then there is Solomon.

Solomon is the bad guy up in the tower. like the bad wizard. Yeah. Is that his name? Salaman. Okay. But you said Solomon. You did say Solomon.

So don't pretend you were right now. Too late for that. If anyone can clarify, just email on chill at fubouradio.com. Shandapal! That's his name. Right. So in the film, the Great Gatsby,

the phrase, Old Sport. Guess how many times it was used in... I'm going to go. 112. Okay. Any higher or lower film? 111.

It was used 55 times. Fifty-five. So I would. Solomon for 110, 15th, the same thing. 55 times in the year. Hey, old sport. I think we should bring that back.

We should try and use that. Hey, old sport. Hey, old spot. Yeah, like a show catchphrase. That could totally work. Thank you all. Everybody that comes in, right, next time, every time it comes in, we'll just keep calling him sport.

And don't mention that we're going to do it. You go, okay, how would you like, when you think you're trying to advertise sport? Yeah. Oh, thanks old sport. Thanks old sport. Thank you. Do it so much that they think,

what the fuck? What is this, me? Top Gun The movie Navy recruitment went up 500% the year that that movie

came out everyone went to the cinema and went Yep I'm gonna do that I'm gonna do that I'm gonna be in the Navy Did you do that in the kid though You guys hit that in the movie

You can come out I went and watched one of the rush hours When I was a kid when they first came out We were only the first one We come out We were all Jackie Chan After that We were already kicking Lempos

Yeah I'm gonna go to karate And then you get your ass kicked You're like I'm not doing this again I mean that was one of Yeah One of my questions to you guys actually, what would be the most influential movie

in your life? Because I, I literally, as from a very young, young age, from three years old, I would go and I'd watch Mary Poppins or whatever, and I would go away, ten minutes later, I'd be about, I'll be a brolly, I found a hat from somewhere, and I was just married, but mine was actually, and this is from a young age, and I tell you the story how it became

coming back, Freddy Kruger, Nightiman Elm Street. Really? Yeah, and I was about six. That's concerning. That is a little. That is a little. And I'll explain the story. So I also have three favourite films, right? And you know, remember on the cassette? You could copy off the TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they taped over the Freddie Krueger movie. They taped Dumbo and Michael Jackson Moonwalker movie. They didn't realize. I was going to say that as mine, weirdly. That was my film. Freddy Kruger, Nightman Elm Street, Dumbo and Michael Jackson. They filmed over the Freddy Kruger, but it didn't film over it. It just had enough space to add two more to it.

So then stick the cassette in. Go and Kevin, you go on. So I'd watch Dunbar. I'd watch Michael Jackson. Then I'd sit and watch Freddy Kroger. Freddy Kruger, I was my hero. I didn't kind of understand that he's running around killing all these people. I loved you.

I had the twos with the claws. I had the jumper. Amazing. I always be Freddy Kruger. This makes a lot of sense now that I know you. I just met you. It really does. It really does.

So you go from playing Dumbo to Michael Jackson. I call him Mickey Jackson. I couldn't pronounce Michael. Mickey J. Mickey Jackson. And then Freddy. Good old Freddy Kruger. My hero.

I miss you, Freddy. Wow. Freddy was like a dad to me. Fred is like my family. And what about you, Phil? I was honestly going to say Michael Jackson's been Walker, because as terrible a film as it is, anyone who knows me knows I love Michael Jackson.

And you can ask my brother, I used to watch that tape. What Michael Jackson? What Michael Jackson, though? Which version of all Michael Jackson. All shades. All shades of Michael Jackson. Every version of the rainbow Michael Jackson. 50 shades of Michael Jackson.

50 shades of Michael Jackson. Yeah, there is it. 50 shades of Michael Jackson. That's a weird film nobody needs to see. Please nobody makes that film. But yeah, no, I watched that to death. And then, because I used to watch the smooth criminal bit in the middle, the extended smooth cut.

And that just made me want to sing, basically. And that's, yeah, part of the reason I sing, I think. I connected to the Michael Jackson movie because I think there was a little girl in there with a doll. The blood one. Yeah. Annie, no, Annie, are you okay? I think she was called Annie.

I think she was called Annie. And she was not okay. She was far from okay. She wasn't kidnapped, I think. But, yeah, I have, like, strong memories of that. that film even though I didn't understand the film at all. I just remember watching it. Most influential for me would either be, yeah, Mary Poppins.

I would literally, my parents used to take me on a day trip out, but most kids would be like, where do you want to go? And I'd be like, St Paul's Cathedral! And I'd go and feed the pigeons. No way. Feed the birds. Nice one. I want to go feed the birds. And I wanted to, like, dress as a Victorian for

most of the time. I was really affected by that film. And then next one, probably be... I was obsessed with Arnold Schwarzenegger growing up, like kids. I was obsessed. Terminator. I was actually, no I'm thinking about it. I was actually allowed to watch a lot of shit that I shouldn't have been allowed to watch.

That's an 18, you know, that film. I was about 10, again. You should have worked with your mother. Geez, man. I'm thinking about it now, I was allowed to watch a lot of, I was exposed to a lot of TV that I shouldn't have been from young. Hence all those Asboes, though,

hence be, yeah, hence being, I've got, I'm not allowed to go 100 feet from... Sarah Connor. Gem Artiton. No, I love the fact that there's films, that's the whole point of the film, enjoying it, but also just they can have such an effect on you. Totally. Oh, too, another one, back to the future.

I watched Back to the Future 1, 2 and 3, to death. And still to this day, I don't think I'll be pacified until I own a Delorean. Like, if I ever get rich enough, I'm getting a delorium. Marty, you're hitting it out. Marty, we've got to get the DeLauron at 88 miles an hour. I, um... We've got to go back to the future, Marty. What?

You sounded more like Rick and Multi at this point. Oh, I love that coin. That's the, yeah, Rick and Mooy. Rick and Morty's quality. Have you seen that? Rick and Morton, oh, it's good. You need to see it. I just found that the other day. We were driving along the car, and I found out my boyfriend

had never seen a single Back to the Future. And I was like, what? Get out the car. No, that's going to make for a great weekend, though. But, I mean, yeah, I'm going to try and educate him. Yeah, he's not saying him. He's not seen him. What was we speaking about before?

And he was like, never seen it. And it was like, what? I remember. Yeah, there's a lot of things he hasn't seen. Poor guy. Poor God. Yeah. He lived under a rock.

Well, all right. In the desert. he's from the Middle East, but that's a little bit of course. Okay. A little racy, but okay. She said it. Go to the Kevin Corner, go to Kevin Corner. Okay, right.

Moving on with Mike. Oh, Pumba from the Lion King was the first character to fart in any Disney movie. Really? Factoid. It always comes up, Lion King. Did you know the... Do you know the...

Yeah, I did actually. Put your teeth. If I'd come across that. Oh, don't. I'm bear with me. What? Put your teeth, then. Lion King

was actually complete Rip right What is happening I'm a brain stop What is happening I'm not well Do you want me to drive this one Please do

Okay so the Lion King Was a real Oh my God it's happened to me Shut up The Lion King Was a rip off Of another cartoon Called Cumba

Kimba Kimba the White Lion Was it really It was a movie It was a cartoon Or a movie From like the 50s Yeah

And when the guy died Who read it The Chinese fellow It was an anime It was completely plagiarism. Disney doing something unethical.

I mean that's open my eyes. Disney was quite a bad man. That's pretty, yeah. You bad boy. Bad man. Yeah, Disney, they start and they only, it's recently come to like now because they found letters between

production house and they accidentally call Simba Kimba in one of the pits. They were like, they were like, we need to change Kimba's head there or whatever. And yeah. They could have disguised it better though. That's what I said.

But even the scenes, all the scenes. Call him Tim. Like the same when he sat with his dad on the rock. Seed for scene, it's almost the same. What? It's crazy. Google it. Don't Yahoo it, Google it.

I'm a good guy, so I will Google it. On your iPhone. Your iPhone. Yoda is actually modelled on Albert Einstein. Really? Which is why there is some similarities. Man. Have you seen the bad lip sync with Yoda?

There's a new one. You haven't seen it either. You need to watch. that it's um I do like them bad sing just just type bad lip syncing Yoda and Siegles and it'll make your evening you welcome that I'm gonna leave that with you can leave that with you great weekend guys great weekend have you seen that um it's not a lip sync base they've put no bricktop from snatch yeah over Darth Vader what oh it's the best is that give me the fucking shoot guys you got to sit they've done the same

with Darth Vader with Arnold Schwarzenegger and then take a quotes from his other films who is your daddy and what does it do exactly that it's exactly that it's good as it sounds, yeah, it's quality. Talking about Back to Future, the time-traveling machine, the DeLorean, in the original script, was supposed to be a refrigerator. I did know that. I did know that.

That'd have been shit. Get in the fridge, party! Get in the fridge to 88 miles an hour, running. 80, minus 88 degrees. Minus 88 degrees. Oh man. This is a bit of like a weird Twilight Zone real life film thing.

So in 1898, which is 14 years before Titanic actually happened, the real Titanic event. Morgan Robertson wrote a novel called Futility, which is about a large ship called The Titan that hits an iceberg and sinks in the Atlantic Ocean. What? Yeah.

You've got to be shitting me. That is crazy. It was published 14 years before Titanic, and it was called The Titan, and it's hit an iceberg. That is nuts. How nuts is that? That is crazy. I blame him now for the whole thing.

Morgan Robertson. Was there a scene where she goes, I'm flying, Jack? That didn't happen in the real Titanic. Pubbling nuts. Says who? Well, that's true. Was you there? Was you there? I was not.

I was about to say... We can't prove it or disprove it anyway. I was about to say I was not there, unfortunately. And I was like, actually, I'm very fortunate that I was not on the Titanic. I thought it was a documentary. Docu drama. I thought it was live. Oh, that's the end of my...

I thought it was live. A live stream of the Titanic. What was going to go wrong? Shand apart. That's the end of my unusual facts for this week Very good Very good Would you like to play a game, Phil

Before we have to say I will be terrible at your game But I will happily play it So as it's Christmas It's nearly Christmas I've got some Christmas movie quotes Okay And I'm gonna see if you

So any of you guys know How much you know your Christmas films So think of a buzzer in your head It can be whatever you want Do we need a buzzer? Yeah you can just be like dab Dab or whatever Dab

Dab If you want to do a dab I'm not cool enough to dab I'm not cool enough dab I'm gonna go with the Wayne's World Shwing Okay you can swing And what's your buzzer? Bazinga.

Bazinga. Nice. Right, okay, so we're going to give us a go. No, no, right. So I'm going to refer that. Shonda Paul. It has to be, man. Has to be.

Got to be. Okay, so the Christmas movie quote, here we go. We're going to play and pause and see how we go. So if you know it, shout out. So we're guessing the film or the character or what?

Guess the film it's from? So this is the theme tune from the film. So, not theme, it's movie quotes. You're not listening. We're so good at this already. This is going to go really well. Okay.

Let's just, let's just give it. some buzzer. And I want to look him straight in the eye, and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no good, rotten, foreflushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating in-bred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking,

dog-kissing, brainless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-leg, and spotty-lipped, wormheaded sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. I need to see that film. I've known it is.

It's amazing. It's called National Lampoons Christmas vacation And it's one of my favourite I would have never guessed that Oh my god It's one of the most famous movie famous movie quotes ever

I've never even heard of it I wonder if it was It's got that guy in it Chevy Chase Yeah Nice Yeah See I know who he is

That was Chevy Chase Going absolutely ballistic Was he got ballistic I've missed that bitch I'm gonna make that my ring to Dickless Hops Howbrus

I know Can you imagine My buzzin noise Right okay What about the next one Let's see I know that you left the workshop You know

We're all laughing our heads off. Did you have to borrow a ring? Is that Elf? It is. Well done. Nice. Hey, Jackweed, I get more action in a week than you've had your entire life. Oh, he's a bad. He's in L.A. South Park. Yeah, he uses Yahoo.

He uses Yahoo. He used to scream. So I suggest you wipe that stupid smile off your face before I come over there and smack it off. You're feeling strong, my friend. Call me, elf. One more time. These are very aggressive Christmas films. They are.

I said what a great work. I'm Sean DePaul. Yes, it is. That's 1.8. I should have got that one. I should have got that one. Good film, good film.

I haven't seen it ages. It's colleague. Bill Murray, isn't it? Been a good year. December. Christmas. Bill Murray, that's his name. There you go.

Number four. Santa rolling down the block in a panzer. Well, kids, I certainly hope you've been good this year Because it looks like Santa just took out the Pearson home It's coming Tring is a jingle on the way No With reindeer

Shonda Paul Reindeer and Santa It's kind of a package deal It's the Santa Claus I never would have that I'm gonna do tomorrow Never really No number five

Number five Tring it's a wonderful life No It is It is sorry Don't shake your head of rain I shook my head But I meant to not

you're so wrong that you're right i love this film yeah it's quality i was late to the party on this guy's great i'm gonna build bridges a mile long i think you're allowed to be late to that party because you weren't alive at the time but i saw the both silhouetted against the lights of the traffic and then they were gone oh fun only i didn't say fudge i said the word the big one the queen mother of dirty words the fred I know the family guy parody of this I don't know what it is it's a Christmas story no idea now miss that man I made you so

Tring hold on both say it same time hold on oh no I do not do that Okay one point to Phil boom he's at work What about your brothers and your sisters? I'm my only child Where do you live Such a good film Such a good film.

Good shit. Because you're a stranger. Number eight. Every one of these letters is addressed to Santa Claus. The post office is delivered. Well done, Phil. Therefore, the post office department. Fuck you, Phil.

I'm not allowed back, I'm never allowed back. Since the United States government declares this man to be Santa Claus, this court will not dispute it. Case dismissed. Okay, dokey. Number nine. Me too, me too. Do you have any more not back?

These guys are looking for a turbanam A gentleman, though, yeah. Shire, shes, jumble all the way. You gotta give that to Kevin. I said it like 10 minutes ago, so, let's tell me counts. Okay, for the final man. See that a turbo man on there. You have a 55 inch plasma TV in your room.

Is this a room? Samma got it for Christmas last year. Yeah, I'm with a big guy in the red suits, not looking out for your future. Oh, shoot a pole. You're going to get hooked on that thing. I can see it now. Dight close? No, the bros.

No. You wake up to 35, you're overweight. Brought your life? Thank you. What's he good? I said you a favor. I have no idea. I have no idea.

Play, kick the can, do some athletic stuff. You go to school. I mean, it's Fred Claus. Fred Claus. Oh, man. Okay, if I give you that. What about that? Dave Claus.

Sebastian Glaws. That's three points each. That's a draw. Fair enough. You'll have to return. I am happy with that. Do, do. Oh, no.

We can't do like a. A tie breaker. Yeah. A tie breaker. A fight to the death. A knife. A knife each. Yeah.

one arm beyond your back That's extreme Well Phil, thank you so much for coming on the show No, thank you you. All the best of luck with your future while you see you very busy So you don't need need luck Can I quickly plug my podcast? Yeah, go plug what you want to do

I have my own podcast with a guy called Chris Keegan It's called A Whole Lot of Nothing on Twitter It's At Lot of Nothing CP Check it out, we talk geek culture, films, movies, music stupid headlines from around the world, everything Check it out. Also, RevoBroom.com is my music review website If you like rock music, check it out and enjoy. I know, good podcast is great.

You got a good radio voice, Phil. Thanks, thanks. When I get on the radio, I get a little bit like this. Well, I'm not a radio, that's all right. I know, I'm in, bro. Changes, changes, just like that. Just like that. Right, we're going to get the energy up here because it's Friday.

I'm going to play The Notorious B-I-G. It's hypnotised. It's Back Row and Chill. It's Back Row and Chill with Johanna-James on Fubar Radio. Welcome back. Oh, it's a bit of... It was continuing. I didn't know what happened there. Sorry, apologies.

It's Friday, it's back row and chill, with Johanna James, Kevin Freshwater. We've got our final guest in the studio. It's Marissa Koneski. That's brilliant. Welcome. Thank you so much for coming in today. And you've literally run here from the rehearsal studio.

You've just been saying. Yes, we have just done our final blood rehearsal. Oh, a blood rehearsal. What does that mean? She sacrificed a goat. Yes. Well, it's more interesting than that. But we just made, in our show we put a woman back together.

We don't cut her in half. We do the opposite of the traditional illusion. And we just had to have a wet rehearsal, which was with the blood. It's not real blood. In this particular scene. So we did the wet, the last rehearsal was the wet blood rehearsal. We've been working up to it. Because a wet run normally means that you drink in the scene, like really drink.

So if you do it, if you're doing it. a play where in the scene people having alcohol, if you do a wet run, it's a rehearsal with actual alcohol. Good times, good times. The scene normally just falls apart, but it's quite fun. I always watch the thing that when I'm watching TV. Is that real alcohol

they drinking? No. No. It'll be apple juice. Well, that's ruined it for me. So you have got a show at the Soho Theatre that is literally about to start. If you like to let our listeners know what it's about and what you're doing, well, you're putting a woman back together. Yes, it's a very

special show for the festive period. And when I say the festive period, I mean the festive menstrual cycle. So it's a little bit of a controversial show. We like controversial. We like controversial. It is a comedy. It's called Dr. Karneski's Incredible Bleeding Woman.

And I am currently qualifying as a real doctor. I'm just about to say, it says doctor real. I'm saying, have you actually got a PhD? I have. And this is my doctorate. Well, I'm just finishing my thesis. I'm a doctor of performance.

performance art, let me make that plane. Okay, well right. As opposed to medicine. Ouch, how I've got a little rash. Can you have a little bit for me? But the whole show is about reinventing menstrual rituals. And it isn't just a show for women, because we look at the whole idea of the human body and its cycles. It's a pastiche of a anthropology lecture that all starts to turn into a strange, witchy ritual,

that then starts to turn into a really cheesy, 1980s magic show. And we reverse all the roles and we have some incredible performers. So we have one of the only female hair hangers in the world. She hangs by her hair. That's fancy chance. And we have one of the

only female sword swallowers in the world. Kevin's eyebrows just raised. And we have a very interesting story about the sword swallower because she actually had an accident. Her name is Missa Blue and she grazed her esophagus. Bloody hell. And when

she went to the hospital, she asked her fellow sword swallows around the world, and it turns out that when you menstruate, apparently your esophagus swells up a bit. And so women sword swallers are at a higher risk of injuries. When you say she's the only one in the country, or one of the only ones,

how many is there? Do they have a union? Well, I think they probably do. It's a very small gang around the world. Because I remember seeing one girl when I was younger. She had long brown hair, and she gargled oil, first of all, which was pretty gross, and then she just, oh, the whole sword gone.

Oh my goodness. Yeah. It could be the same lady that I saw as a child. I don't think so. This is quite a young lady. But she's going to swallow a different size sword in relation to the different days of her menstrual cycle. So she's got a little one

so that she hurt herself and a big one on the big day. So do you swallow swords on your period? Is she fond of a big one? Well, she would be very upset with that comment because I think for her it is a great ancient art form

and it's all about defying death it's not about giving good blow jobs oh no one was thinking I think my jobs are defying death personally but no I mean that's crazy I mean I thought that sword swallowing

was an illusion I didn't know people actually put into their body and then out again oh I have a little bit of a phobia about sharp objects and swords and knives and things so that's making me feel really funny I'm gonna breeze There's lots of knives, lots of blood,

but all done with very odd humour. We take on lots of the images from classic horror movies like Carrie and the exorcist, and we look at this whole thing that we have this obsession in our culture with covering women in blood. And my theory is that it's not because we want to see lots of murdered women,

but we have an ancient, deep kind of connection with the idea of women and blood, and it's from these early menstrual rituals that are in a sense, what you could say, are the origins of magic and the origins of witchcraft. Yeah. And sacrificing virgins. Was that an Egyptian thing? Because I don't want to use the sacrifice virgins, I'm pretty sure.

Well, I think it's... I guess we're coming more from the point of view that women went on a sex strike from men in early human culture. And they said, we're not going to have sex with you because we're menstruating. And you can't have sex until you bring us back meat. Ah. And then we're going to put our menstrual blood on our fingers. choosing it as a tool from early. It's the original strike.

Sex strike. It's the sex strike. So menstruation, in a sense, you could say created human culture on some levels because it created people saying, I want this, this is my time, you go over there and give me this or I won't give you that. Wow, it makes a lot of sense

because we've all lived it as a... Just remind me of a film and the name has escaped me because it's a foreign film so I'm not sure what it translates to do in English but I'm going to find it. It was made semi-recently and about a group of women in

I think Iran in the high mountains and they have to go and carry these like their job is to get the water and go up and even when they're on the periods and it's all horrible. And then they go on a sex strike in the village to basically say to the guys

you need to carry the water because it's not fair that we're doing this and doing that. And so the film is about the sex strike that the whole all women go in and they're like we're not going to do it everybody has to stay strong and the men just go absolutely mental

it's been an important part of women's power throughout time the sex strike for many reasons but I think even in the recent marches I think it was Black Monday the Polish against the Polish abortion ban I think that women in Poland went on

sex strike they said no sex if you're not going to let us have abortions oh wow I think there was a connection with sex I have to check that with my colleagues who are part of that movement. I never heard of it before. I've never heard of an actual strike. A form of women's protest, the earliest forms of protest. And then burning bras, as well with that happened.

Yes, that's all connected. I think it definitely works. It only works if everyone does it, though. That's the whole thing. You've got to like do it together, sex strike together. Or there's that one lady that's like... I'm afraid. Light up, boys. Yes, it's about women's solidarity. And that's kind of what we play with in the show.

We look at, and we have all different kinds of women in our company. So some of the women in our show were not born women. So we have a bit of a queer perspective also on what it is to recognize the importance of your body's cycles and how perhaps it's been disrespected throughout the history of time. And we need to readdress that and say this is a really important, interesting cultural thing. There's many goddesses and archetypes that are actually menstrual and we don't really realize it. And how did the show sort of form? Did you put it together or like get through your...

It is my doctorate. Oh, wow. Yeah, so I mean I'm a magician and a bit of a comedian sort of in a very obscure performance art way. And I had this idea to do a doctorate and to... I guess I was looking a lot of horror films and looking a lot of representation of women and blood. And looking a lot of the protests that were going on around the world. and there's some great, you know, pussy riot and femin men and all these amazing groups of women that are kind of,

there's a sangra menstrual in Spain, and there's a kind of a rise in menstrual activism, if you like, and people saying, you know, this has been ignored for too long, and why is it taboo, why is it thought of as dirty, why is it thought of as disgusting, it's my body? Why do I have to have an advert with blue liquid and pretend it doesn't happen? And so many young girls have shame.

And so many people are repressed around their bodies. And so I looked into anthropology and realized that it's actually a really huge important part of culture that we've kind of hidden and closed. And as I say, it's kind of the basis of lots of very famous myths like Medusa is a menstrual myth, funnily enough. Oh, the lady of the snakes? Turns men to stone. When she's on her period? When she's on her period. Oh, is that only her period?

Yes. That's her, because it's kind of, there's a lot of theories to suggest that it's the origin. of witchcraft and magic and that when women got together on the dark moon, not the full moon, this is what happened in early human culture, people would go, the women would go on sex straight on the dark moon inside a cave somewhere, possibly, or inside their own hut, and they would kind of unionise and menstruate together, and that power, that creative power that they had at that time collectively. When there was a full moon? No, the blood moon. The blood moon or dark moon? Dark moon or new moon And then when you ovulate

When the full moon comes And then that's when you have your party and have sex And when you meet comes back But obviously gender has changed We're a bit more fluid than that now But it is weird I remember when I found out I'm learning so much about vaginas

But did you know that girls You must know that girls who live closely together They share they share They sing together How? How? How? How? Going back to what? Witchcraft.

That's what the show is about. So you've just put your finger on it. So we, in the show... You need to go to a cave. Yes, well, we look at the theory that, you know, there was research to suggest in the 70s that women synchronised when they live together. And my theory, adding to that, is that it's not just living together, but you have to perform menstrual rituals.

So we got together in South End of all places, the lovely English seaside town, and we decided to reinvent menstrual rituals, me and my gang. and they're all very funny, interesting cabaret artists that work in the circus. So we were doing all these crazy things, like dressing up as cheerleaders covered in blood and running around the beach screaming, and all these people Wednesday are then walking by with their dogs. Strange bunches, Bill. Strange bunch of people. Yeah, so we have these films. You know, the whole thing is very tongue-in-cheek, but it's also very serious.

And it's kind of a parody of a really serious performance art project, but it is a really serious performance art project. So it's kind of many things at the same time. but there are many films of us doing really bizarre menstrual rituals in South End. So the theory is... Did you synchronise as well? We did. And some amazing things happened, which we reveal in the show.

And there are some interesting people in the show, some new people in the show that were the result of the research. Babies? Yes. Oh, wow. We have a baby live in the show. We had to get a baby license the other day. Oh, wow. To perform. Who do you approach to get a baby license?

The local council. Yeah. Really? A six. We need the license for the baby. Oh, sorry, so you need a baby license. And you need to have it MOT once a year. Insured.

Personally, I think everyone should have a license to have a baby. I think so too. I think you shouldn't just have a baby because you want the baby. That's just my opinion. I think that's quite selfish. I want a baby. If you've got a house, have you got enough money to pay for this child?

Oh, responsible Kevin coming out here. No, that's amazing. Always slightly out of time. But, I mean, thank you so much. So people did fancy, oh, I fancy a little bit. You know, time out from all the Christmas stuff and they want to go into the more wacky menstrual show. So it starts on Tuesday.

And it runs until the 7th of January. Right the way through the festive period. We are the panto. Blood panto. Exactly. Viginas. Vigna. This is amazing.

And tickets are 10 pounds. Soho Theater. Have you got plans to bring it on further on? Yes, we would love to tour it all over the world and spread our message. But the most important thing is we've started an activist movement and you can find us on Facebook. We are the menstrualauts. I was just back to say your social media platforms.

And you can join us and perform menstrual rituals on the dark moon and reinvent menstrual rituals and reclaim women's power, women's time by joining the menstruanauts and coming with us. We're like Santa Con but we're all menstruating instead. Amazing. Thank you so much. That's been brilliant. We're going to pop to a song

and then we're going to come back for the last couple of minutes of the show. Amazing. I've learned a lot in that. I've learned so much. I feel I've learned a lot. I feel like maybe we should do something and we'll sink you and me up.

Menstrily. You have a boyfriend, John. Menstrually. All right, babe. This is Barbara O'Reilly, the Who. It's also the theme tune to CSI. I'm going to have to come back in because it's nearly the end of the show.

Oh my God, that was fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. What a crazy, crazy show. I feel educated about vaginas, not. I'm educated about, and I'm a girl. I didn't know that crap about periods. I might go to the middle of the rest. Should we go?

I think we should go. Just to watch and learn more. Just to watch, you know, but I think blood might make me a bit crazy, but I don't know. I don't know. Right, I've got a couple of last facttoids. I want to squeeze in the show before the weekend officially begins. did you know that Harry Potter Harry Potter factoid here

Severus Snape was based on J.K. Rowling's real chemistry teacher who was called John Nettleship and apparently he was just like Snape and so inspired the whole character and she wrote about him also the

this is all a bit little like baddie factoid Ursula from the Little Mermaid was copied and like drawn there was a drag queen called Divine who appeared in hairspray and other things and sadly she passed away before the movie Those poor unfortunate souls

Oh my god I want to watch little mermaid now Love that real! I like that shit That film came out year we were born It did, it did Fun facts, fun facts of the time So that was cool So thank you Kevin for coming in Thank you, I enjoy it every time

I've been on the show. I love it. I love it. What a laugh. Sean DePaul! Shot Da Paul! And thank you guys for listening. We will be back for the last show of the year next week.

16 December. But we'll be back in the new year, back around chill, and Noel, hopefully should be back a little bit more when he's finished being famous. Right, so I'm going to go for my final song, which is from, I haven't seen the film yet, but I've listened a lot to the album of Moana,

the new Disney film. Oh, right, with the... With Dwayne John, the Rock, Dwayne Johnson, and it's about that sort of Hawaiian. I tried to watch it the other night, but it wouldn't let me. Oh, online. I mean, I mean, what? I mean, the cinema was shut.

I mean, what? No, so this is one of the songs from Moana, and we open the show, if you're interested, with one of the other songs from Moana. So I thought we'd close. It's how far I go by Alicia Carra. Thanks so much, guys. Have a fantastic weekend.

I love you. I love you more. I love you more. Bye. I love you more. I love you more. I love you more. I actually love you more.

I love you more. I love you more. Goodbye.