Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 18 - Doc Brown, The Big Show, The Wall of Comedy, Kent Jones, Pussy Riot, Remi Vaughan-Richards, Aaron Unknown, Charlotte Ritchie

Episode Date: January 4, 2017

Doc Brown was in the studio to fill Noel and Jahannah in about his time on Life on the Road. The Big Show was on the line to talk about his acting career his involvement with Marvel. The Wall of Comed...y boys dropped to discuss their upcoming film The Weekend Movie. Kent Jones also talked to TeeJ about his no1 hit. Jahannah then caught up with the members of Pussy Riot who were in the UK performing Burning Doors at the Soho Theatre. British-Nigerian filmmaker Remi Vaughan-Richards was also on the line to discuss her documentary Faaji Akbar. Aaron Unknown popped in to the studio to talk about his song being featured on the Brotherhood soundtrack. Finally, Charlotte Ritchie was on the phone to talk about the anti-pantomime that she is currently starring in for austerity hit London millennials.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. So, Doc Brown's here. Doc Brown's here. Oh, yeah. That's the third voice you're hearing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't.
Starting point is 00:00:17 No, I just kind of let her choose the music. I just let her know if I disapprove. I see. I see. You know, he's basically just whinges. Real positive influence. Yeah, I'll be like, what the hell is this? What are you chosen this?
Starting point is 00:00:30 Well, you bring you to the table. Well, I'm not. I don't have any alternatives, but I'm just saying I hate your music. Yeah, essentially. Essentially, that's what happens. You're just judging me. I like music, and I love soundtracks,
Starting point is 00:00:40 and every song I play is in a movie somewhere. Okay. So it's related to the film industry. Nice. And it's a big wide, you know, got a wide variety of people listening, so. Yeah, but also, it's the banter in it. Like, she knows I love her, so I let her pick her thing.
Starting point is 00:00:53 It just, it's an extra 10 minutes of me giving her a hard time, which people like. They email, they like it. They like the dynamic between me. I see. Sitting on me. Sitting on you. That's a different show.
Starting point is 00:01:06 That's a different show. That's after night. So how you doing, man? What's happening? I'm good. I'm good. I'm having so much needed respite. It was kind of a couple of years there of not really resting at all.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I guess because, you know, when opportunities come your way in our business and you know how short that, you know, that period of time that you're counting. handle might burn you know I've just been going for it but um yeah I got off like the the the the press junket for uh for for Ricky's film Ricky Jaze's film and did you guys where did you tour where did you tour well we did um we just did everywhere but we didn't have to travel everywhere so a lot of people came to uh to London so you didn't get to go to Japan or anything no no no we we dealt with all the press all the press but most people came to so hotel I think we're losing that you know doc because
Starting point is 00:01:59 you know our friend Arnold, you know Arnold Oching Yes You know he did the good lie And he taught the world I don't know why we can't tour the world Like he's in Japan places where they don't even have black people And Arnold was it That's very true
Starting point is 00:02:11 But I guess if you speak to If you speak to most actors They would tell you that That's the real sort of graft of the job That they don't necessarily look forward to You know but you know these days You're contracted to that
Starting point is 00:02:24 The same way as you're contracted to act in the flipping film I want three kids I look forward to do it yeah okay yeah I know that I know that and I hear that I think the one thing I learned from it is the first time I've ever done it is that if the film is good that job is a hell of a lot easier because there was some days where I wasn't even sure if I was saying the same thing twice to the same interview because you're doing like 10 15 in a row yeah
Starting point is 00:02:49 and I just thought wow imagine if the film was shit like that must be so hard and that must happen every day to ask the listeners like so when when doctor just said we do 10 to 15 interviews in a row we're talking about literally because people don't know this we literally sit in a room and people coming back to back yeah yeah yeah and the the biggest break you'll get is when someone will go um do you want need more water and that's it I don't need any more water or if you need to go toilet yeah and sometimes you don't have time for that and here's the interesting thing most of these people come in and they go up you've probably heard this all day I've got a really original question
Starting point is 00:03:23 though and they ask the same damn questions that we've been asked all day long am I line? That's very, very true. And I think any time someone just comes out of left field with a question, they get the best interview. And it really makes me laugh, listening to interviews or pre-records with other actors, other artists. And then when it comes back to the studio live, the host will say something along the lines of, oh yeah, I think he was a bit jet lagged. He wasn't very responsive. And I'm thinking, I'm sat there listening at home thinking,
Starting point is 00:03:54 yeah, but your questions was so boring. You've been hearing the I'm sorry, I'm just breaking my chair. I was just trashing it. But you know what I'm saying? I do. If you want to get the best out of an artist, then engage them. Yeah. So there's a film show on, I don't want to plug other film shows,
Starting point is 00:04:12 but there's a film show on Five Live with Simon Mayo and Mark Kermode. I quite like them, though. And I take, well, they're big fans of you, man. I love them, actually. Mark and Mon is my G. Yeah, I mean, he bigs you up regular. Anyway, when, when, when, Simon's a way I take his place.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Fantastic. The last time I was on it, I interviewed Ben Kingsley. So I was part of that junket, the other side. And I could see what the other interviewers are doing. And I just thought, I'm just like, because the BBC was saying, this is what you should say, this is what you shouldn't say. And I was like, you know what? Let me do it my way.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I just feel like, I don't know the guy, but I feel like I can engage in. So number one, I'm not going to call him Sir Ben. I'm just going to chat to him. Yeah. And they were like, ooh, I don't know. And I was like, did you go, yo, Benny? B. B.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Are you saying? BK You know what? I was just I obviously I bigged up his movie I'd seen it So I thought
Starting point is 00:05:01 You know what It's actually It's a decent movie So I don't have to lie So that's a good thing Yeah So I big up the movie Got him
Starting point is 00:05:06 Got him on side And then I said I did a bit of research On him And I didn't realize He was of mixed parentage You know Yes
Starting point is 00:05:14 So I said You know what Like I've found Like as an actor Having a mixture A mixture of cultures In my family
Starting point is 00:05:21 It's informed me On Like it's given me I don't want to say Universal voice But it's made me open me up from a young age to very different experiences, which I think
Starting point is 00:05:30 has informed my skills as an actor. What do you think about that? Coming from a biracial background. And you should have seen his eyes lit up. His eyes just lit up and he was fully engaged. And then from that point on in the interview, I swear down, you can look this up on the eye player or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:48 He goes, see, the thing about you and I, Ben, the thing about people like us is we are social chameleons. you know and and think about you and I people like me people like you I was like I believe it no one's getting this interview today
Starting point is 00:06:05 of nobody I'm very proud of it but you know it just goes to show one small thing that's just sort of off 100% just just out of left field you're gonna engage it because Joanna does that and we often try to
Starting point is 00:06:18 we try to educate our young listeners we're not young but our listeners that a lot of them want to get into the business if you ever become someone who's interviewing talent, you know, always look for a different angle. Don't just go in with the same questions. Trying, you know, like Doc just said there, he found a way to engage Ben Kingsden, probably got the best interview out of everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And I think it's not just a cynical thing of just trying to get the best interview. That should be standard practice anyway. It's about just trying to be interested and understand that these people could have had 20 or 30 people in that day. And also think genuinely about a conversation that you would be interested in. Yeah. Like if you think about when you see your mates, you're not going to ask them the same
Starting point is 00:06:54 stuff. Do you know what you're going to want a fresh, interesting conversation every time you see your mate. So think about it like that. How is that packet of Chris Bill? Well, John just asked me that. Well, I'm asking you again, just aren't. I find hiding alcohol in my underwear that always is a nice icebreaker for my interviews.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah. I don't have any right now. She says. Here we go, whiskey. Yeah. We're talking like airplane miniatures here. Yeah, it's kind of like been my little thing when I do junkets of phone interviewing. I'll like whip out just to break the ice and um or do something yeah just do something completely
Starting point is 00:07:31 wacky yeah I mean that that that was and it works yeah she's got that down you've been doing pretty well with that actually yeah I've been doing a couple or um what or do like fraudian slips or things like that okay because they're always like did she just just just just wake them up a bit yeah yeah people they think I look quite you know nice and innocent and then I'll just like I went in my first ever interview was with Marlon Williams for 50 shades of black. And I went in and I was like, hello, hello, and I thought he was like great, another interview.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And I was like, so 50 shades of grey was good. Is black better? And then he sort of like, look it. And then went, I see where it was. And then like, oh, I didn't even if you just went off on another level of sexual endoendo. There you go, some lessons out there. So tell me, man, so tell me how did you find a whole life on the road?
Starting point is 00:08:20 Because I'm assuming, and forgive me if I'm wrong, I'm not always up on it. You know, it's like when you work in his business, you don't always see your peers work all the time. That's your biggest project today. Without doubt, you know, I mean, my work on TV was getting more developed with each job, which is nice.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You know, I kind of make a point of trying to do something that I haven't done before and push myself. So I just completed probably my second sort of big kind of mainstream drama, which was a series for ITV-1 called Brief Encounters. And, you know, I had the opportunity to play a game. character over six episodes who was really going through some shit and it was just like
Starting point is 00:09:00 it was such a beautiful opportunity for me because I've always felt that I've been able to do it but as soon as you become accustomed to comedy or you're seen as somebody who does comedy a lot of the time you're not trusted with these kind of dramatic roles so I'd done that but I always knew I'd known for for a couple of years that the Ricky movie was on the cards because we we work closely together outside of
Starting point is 00:09:24 of the movie world and have done for well for about three and a half years now you know I've been writing together and... I didn't know that. That's amazing. And in 2013 we did a sketch based on the two characters from the movie for comic relief and since then we've been talking about putting a movie together so it was a different experience
Starting point is 00:09:45 to all the other acting work I've done because obviously all the other work I've been auditioning for and just trying to get involved you know whereas the movie I was there from the inception so did you write on the movie as well yeah yeah so you're co-written credit no the way it's done is like you know everything is
Starting point is 00:10:02 yeah everything is is written and directed by by Ricky which is kind of understandable because it's his baby but the way Ricky works is similar to Larry David or to Christopher guest in that he
Starting point is 00:10:16 creates scenes and allows looseness for the actors to contribute. But I was there from a blank page and I was contributing written stuff from the very beginning. Fantastic. For my character and for our scenes together.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And, you know, I guess I was hoping for a co-writing credit. But yeah, you have to search pretty far down the credits to find any reference to it. It's cool. I like being the underdog. I'm always the underdog. That's true.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I think when you see the movie, and you see what my character's doing, I think it's kind of clear that only one person could have written that. For people who haven't seen the film, what is your character? Who do you play? Okay, so the film sort of, it's a contrivance, it's a mock documentary,
Starting point is 00:11:06 it's a contrivance that the film crew are picking up with, on David Brent's life, 12 years after, yeah, years later, after the original documentary of the office and finding out where he is now. And where he is now is, is very troubled
Starting point is 00:11:21 he's been through therapies at a nervous breakdown and he's come out of the back of that and decided that what he's going to do is spend every penny that he's got on trying to become the rock star that he always felt he could be so that's kind of the conceit
Starting point is 00:11:35 and then my character I play a guy that he saw at an open mic a rapper that he saw at an open mic that he agrees to manage and then sort of just steps all over his fledgling career
Starting point is 00:11:51 forces him to come on tour with him with this awful, you know, rock band and it's, you know, it's kind of a buddy movie there's a fish out of war element to it as well and, you know, it's two guys who really shouldn't be together but are and they sort of learn to, yeah, go on. What do you think is in the air this year
Starting point is 00:12:12 in terms of like, you know, the music scene, there's quotation mark, urban music scene seems to come back and then films like Life on the Road, which is Ricky David Brent after 12 years. Bridget Jones, which is Bridget Jones after 12 years. After 12 years.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Brotherhood as well. It's come back as a film after 10 years or 10 years. I mean, do you think that, you know, and I know I'm responsible for one of those, and you are partly as well, but do you think that we're running out of ideas or do you think that bringing back these brands is something that is a good thing for cinema
Starting point is 00:12:45 because they've all come out and they've all done numbers. So like, you know, It's a really interesting question because Bridget Jones has done amazing. I've really enjoyed it. I'll be honest, I didn't see that coming. No, I did. I did.
Starting point is 00:12:56 But I think, I always believe if there's genuinely a story to tell them, why not? I've always thought that. Because I think you can tell the difference. I think the audience can tell the difference when it's like, well, we had to do another one otherwise the box set wouldn't have really been a box set.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, they do. Yeah, they can tell. So, you know, I think you look at a film like Creed. I expected Creed to be awful. And I think it's pretty much widely accepted that that is a great return to form. And if you really analyze it, it is just Rocky all over again, right, with a different character. But it works.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And I think sometimes when there's something, when there's a tried and tested format that works, but more importantly that people love elements within that format, you can honestly tell some kind of a new story around that, then why the hell not? Yeah, but you know what I mean as well? Because obviously I know why I did it, but it feels like it's not just coincidence. There must have been a feeling in the air of people going,
Starting point is 00:13:58 do you know what? We should bring these back, you know what I mean? And they're all coming out of the same. And our films have done numbers as well. Just they're not the same budget as Bridget Jones. Of course. With our movie, the decision was made based on sort of general feedback. because we put these characters together for comic relief
Starting point is 00:14:21 and we just waited for the video to go online and see what the feedback was like and it was crazy I mean we thought it might be good we felt what we did was funny but it was way better than we imagined and we sort of based our initial decisions of you know self-confidence on that on on that the bigger question of whether we're running out of ideas or not who knows I think
Starting point is 00:14:46 think I always think it's sort of like peaks and troughs, you know, with, with movies. There's always a period where everything's based on a book as well, you know, everything's like, where are the original screenplays, you know, who are the guys that are just, just come up with a great idea and it is a movie because, you know, films often get compared unfavorably to a book and understandably so, because you can get more detail and emotion out of a book every time. But I do think it's peaks and troughs because there's always something. around the corner that comes up and changes
Starting point is 00:15:18 the game, you know. And we have done that. Well, guys, I want to play, I've got a challenge to bring you guys, we're going to go Facebook Live in a minute. So I'm going to quickly get the game ready. We've had a lot of emails coming in and being like, oh my gosh, Noel and Doc together. This has been my dream.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Oh, yeah, I've seen it. It's amazing. Can you guys work together? Martha in Labra Grove? Yeah, Martha. We're just going to take a second. What kind of dream, Martha? What kind of dream? That's what I want to know. I bet you want to know. Right, we'll be right back and we're going to play cards against humanity with Noel Clark and Dot Brown. Food Bar Radio presents.
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Starting point is 00:16:09 Waguan! Every Thursday. When we waffle with Terry Minor, Cat Fox and Laurie Peters. 12 p.m. on Fibar Radio. Okay, we're back. We're going to play. I was just trying to explain the rules, and I thought I might as well explain the rules to everyone who's listening. It's cards against humanity.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It's one of the best, like, pub games or anything for a night out. It's kind of, it's a game of wit. It's going to test your wit and see how funny you are, because you guys both write comedies, and let's see who's funniest. I don't write comedy. That's not how we describe Noel Clark. But, yeah. I don't write comedy.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Okay, so it's white cards and black cards. I'm going to go first round So normally the person who plays the black cards It's the first person who poop that day The last person who's poop that day But we're going to forget that and I'm going to just It's the actual rules of the game I don't play the shit you know
Starting point is 00:17:01 What am I supposed to do? So the point is for example I will read a black card Which is normally a statement And on the white cards you have got funny answers Okay So I'm going to read out a statement We'll do a mock one which is in the new Disney channel
Starting point is 00:17:16 Original movie Hannah Montana struggles with blank for the first time. And you guys have got to look through your cards, find what you think is the funniest filler. You hand it to me. Yeah, I read it out, and then whoever I think wins the funniest answer. I can look at these. I didn't realize I could look at all of them.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Okay, great. Okay, so for the first round, we'll put that one down. I'll pull out another black card. I've laid out mine. I've got 10 here. Okay. I'm laying them out now. Okay, so this is the first one, ready?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yes, yes. So instead of coal, Santa now gives the bad children blank. Who's going first? Just submit, submit to me. I'd go for horse meat. Okay, well, you can hand it to me. Oh, I give it to you, do I?
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then hand me yours? And then I will go, I'll go, instead of Cole, Santa now gives the bad children horse meat. Or instead of Cole, Santa now gives the children a middle-aged man on roller skates. That's easily that one. No, you win that worst round.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I thought I might have... With that one. Okay, so the second one, what's there a ton of in heaven? I'm going to give you some more white cards. Okay, thank you. You can be creative there. Okay, Noel, we've got Knowles in there,
Starting point is 00:18:33 so I'm not going to look at what it is. I'm going to wait until I read it out to give you guys fair. Dark, what's you? I'm liking this game. It's so funny. Okay, so what's there a ton of in heaven? Authentic Mexican cuisine.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It's hard to come by What's there a ton of in heaven? An erection that lasts for longer than four hours It's even harder to come back I think the erection is going to win that round I think you got a round each Well done, well done Okay awesome
Starting point is 00:18:58 So the next round What helps Obama unwind What do you think? What do you think? I'm going to go for that one Okay, got docs Yeah, I'm not looking what it is This is kind of more political than it is
Starting point is 00:19:15 funny but... Okay. What helps Obama unwind? Sexy pillow fights. Okay, okay. What helps Obama unwind? Not giving a shit about the third world. Political, see?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Okay, no. No one wins that one with a low blow. It is easier. Okay. What gets better with age? Hmm. What does I look? Oh, man, this is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I'm laughing already. I don't even know. is. My one is technically true, actually. Oh, okay. Mine is 100% not true, and anyone who agrees with it needs to see a doctor.
Starting point is 00:19:53 What gets better with age? Child beauty pageants. That's dark, though. It's dark, but class. What gets better with age? Concealing a boner. It does. Yeah, because they're both true.
Starting point is 00:20:09 They're both true. It's not like the old days where you just get up halfway through your lesson in class, and it's just there. I used to be able to hang a wet beach towel on my shit now. Now it just drops to the ground. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I feel it. I know the... I bet you do. Seriously. Those are the days. Right. Next one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:27 What would Grandma find disturbing yet oddly charming? Okay. I've got a miscellection from the dark. So what would Grandma find disturbing yet oddly charming? No, you got to pick one. These are all shit, that's the problem, once you've been for the first few rounds.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I can give you... Okay, so, what would Grandma find... Oh, no, no, this one, this one. Oh, okay, you're right, you can change it. What would Grandma find disturbing, yet oddly charming, goblins? Goblins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:03 What would Grandma find disturbing, yet oddly charming? The clitoris. Yeah. I bet Grandma's never found that, actually. Depends when she was born, I think. Do you know what? If she's born before 97, She's one of those hook grannies from now where she's like 37.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Oh yeah, she knows what that's all about it. When I first played this game, I played it with my younger brother, and we all played it and he got that and he went, what's the clitoris? We first time, we're like, Google it, mate. This is a problem. This is a problem. How old is your brother?
Starting point is 00:21:32 He was about 17 at the time. This is a problem. You see, you young boys don't know where the details are. The goods are. Yeah. That's why an old man like me can take you a girl. I can't say that I knew when I was 17. Of course you did, come on, Doctor.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I can't say that I knew. I know. Yeah, man, I knew. My mum was a nurse. I'd be reading them anatomy books when she's at work. Nice. I had a book in my house that was called The Breast, but there was nothing about the clitoris in there.
Starting point is 00:21:56 It was very scientific. It was just about the breast. And that was... I had it... We had... Just one breast or... Alighly volumes. Bob, Bob the breast was like one of the misdemean.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But like, it was called the breast. I guess that gave it sort of gravitas. No, my mom. See, my mom, as soon as she's... I'm going to work, darling. All right, mum. Bam, anatomy. but right.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, no, I was the same with the breast. That's quite a shame that all you had was a little scientific. No, I also had the Littlewood's catalogue. Oh, okay. Yes, I had the next catalogue. Yeah. The underwear section. Boom, oh my gosh, there used to be this girl in there and she had these pubs and you can see them through her pants and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I used to go nuts, man. Such an innocent time when you think about it, you know what? I'm innocent. It was so innocent. The Littlewood's catalog. Yeah. Oh, mate, we're out of time. Oh, man. I think, I think you won that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You run that. Early masturbation. Yeah. Doc Brown, No Clark. Tune in next week. Thanks so much for coming on again. Pleasure. We're going to go for our last song.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I missed you last time. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so I'm going to go for our last song of the day, which is from the Deadpool soundtrack again. There was two that I liked on there. So thanks for tuning in everyone today. We'll see you next week for...
Starting point is 00:23:00 What's the song? Backgrey. It's Canada Girl. Great. I will save you. I'll wait, guys. Have a good weekend. King is back.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Johanna James, No Clark. Yes. We'll win the big show. By the way, did you know I'm number two in the box office right now? You love tooting that horn. Give me a high five. If I was number two in the box office, I'd chew my horn too. I wanted to start.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Well, I'll let the lady start. I'll let the lady start. What do you want to start with? Now it's in your lap. So it better be a good question. I'm an Aquarius. I like long walks on the beach. That's a damn lie because I don't like to walk anywhere.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Well, I want to know what your next movie project is. It's funny. I'm represented by APA on L.A., Jeff Wiches. Me too. Okay. Fantastic. Another one. So Jeff's my agent.
Starting point is 00:26:22 We've done some stuff. I've done a couple of readings from Marvel. I don't know if I look anything like the characters, but getting into that Marvel family, you've got to get introduced to them. You know, and you know the more read you do for more casting directors, the more they get to know you, the more they get to learn you. It's hard because right away you're typecasted. They look at you and, oh, you're a big, intimidating guy. Yeah, but also I can throw down. I can act.
Starting point is 00:26:47 So you've got to find the right opportunity. I have a TV series that may be come up this fall that I'm really excited about. There'd be a good opportunity for me. And we're just considering some other projects and seeing what's going on. You know, it's such a, it's a lot of your talent. It's a lot of who you know and how you meet them and how you get to know them because they're going to take a risk on you. Because you've got to figure it's a business venture.
Starting point is 00:27:07 They're taking a risk on you to pull this character off and enhance this script or enhance this character. You know, and there's so many great actors out there that are applying for the same job. It's a toss-up. Is it something that a lot of the WW superstars are glad about now where you have not only WW Studios with Michael Luisi, but you have the fact that a lot of the stars like the rock and Stone Cold earlier, and now John and yourself and are crossing over into movies?
Starting point is 00:27:37 I think who's really transcend that for us has been rocked? Because I remember 20 years ago, nobody would talk to you in Hollywood. They just wouldn't do it because you were a wrestler that didn't like to do with it, and rightly so. Yeah. There was only very few, wasn't there? There was very few, but you weren't getting involved in any really big projects. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Most of the projects that the guys did back then were they had friends and producers that produced a movie for them to do. The difference is now is Rock has really gone out there and paved the way for us and showing our work ethic, our willingness to work with other people, our commitment, which is ingrained by us. I don't think people understand unless you've been around WWW and been backstage and seen the work level that our talents. capable of it. We have done that. You know what I mean? And you look at guys like Ms. Okay, now Ms. is a smart ass on TV, but Ms. is one of the hardest working guys you'll ever meet. Very dedicated, very friendly, never complains about anything. You strap a dump truck to his back and tell him to walk at three blocks. He'd be like, okay, and he'll go do it.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That's the kind of work attitude that you know in Hollywood is very important. You need to get along with your co-stars, your fellow actors, your director, be respectful, show up on time and work hard, know your lines. Yeah. Our guys are going to do that. You see the success that Rocks had. They've seen the success that Batiste has had in Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, amazing. But he's to knocked it out of the park. Amazing. I mean, just, and, you know, Dave was one of those guys that, you know, made a difficult transition
Starting point is 00:28:56 where he was really popular at the time. He was one of the top heels we have, but he felt in his gut, I need to make this transition now. And Dave did it. So, yeah, he started with a couple of small films, and then, you know, he did well and those, and he had a home run with guardians. Yeah. So when those kind of guys are proven, proven entities that deliver, you're going to look in the same pawn maybe for another potential, and it makes it easier to take a risk.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. So that's the border I'm in now. Yeah, I've been the big show for 20-something years. That's cool. But now I need to go in, sit down, meet with these people, let them know that I'm a human being, that, you know, I've got experiences. I can give you A to Z, then find the right part they're willing to take a risk on because it's a risk in an investment.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I don't know if you notice this, you know, but I'm black. Okay, so someone talked to me about this because I wasn't aware of this. Yeah, right. Anyway. You all right. Yeah, dude. Something even more shocking. She's a woman.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Really? Yeah. Actually, I got to be honest, I knew that right away. My point being, how do you guys, and WW is great at it, but how do you guys, and what sort of advice do you give to people that have differences? Oh, diversity? I think anybody that's different that brings a uniqueness. We're all unique our own way, whether we're black, white, short, tall, fat, skinny. I guess I'm saying, how do we teach children to embrace that, do you think?
Starting point is 00:30:14 We all are different. And you have to embrace your differences, embrace your gifts. You know what I mean? If anyone puts a limb on you and says you can't do something, you're the one that's making a mistake by listening to them. If you want to be a WWE superstar, there's opportunities here for you to be a superstar. If you want to be part of this program, there's opportunities for everyone. It doesn't matter if you're gay or lesbian.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It doesn't matter of ethnicity. We are actively recruiting all over the world from China, Japan, South Africa, Australia, Europe. We want diversity because we're always. worldwide product. We want diverse. Diversity makes things better. If you have all carbon copy the same thing, it becomes very stale.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Is life stale? Life's not stale. Diversity is what all the little chemicals and the neurons, electronic, everything bouncing off each other. That's what makes things happen because everything's unique and diverse, and that's what makes the magic happen. And you know, the more diversity you have, the more energy you have flowing, the better the project is.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I think it's good for people, because you guys have your don't be bully Bia Star campaign. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think it's good for listeners and people to hear you say that because obviously that we know everyone is different, but I think sometimes young people have a hard time. Well, another thing, too, is part of the Be a Start program, they have, you know, guidelines and building their chapters. But one thing when I talk to the kids about how important it is for them, hey, if somebody's
Starting point is 00:31:36 being bullied, step up and how contact a respected adult, a teacher, the other thing is, the other thing is, too, is a lot of things we overlook in those bully situations is, yes, the kid being bullied is a victim. but also the child doing the bullying is really crying for help. How many times we know in those situations that a bully is really crying for help? There's something going on somewhere. Whatever it is, this kid is emotionally acting out because something is troubling that child. Because that's not natural human behavior.
Starting point is 00:32:06 If anything, we're about pulling together and fighting for the underdog and rising above. We've fought disease and famine and thousands of years of evolution to get to where we are. So if something's against the norm and there's this bully, then what's the way? go on this kid's life, what's happening this kid's life. So by telling, you're not getting the bully in trouble. In all actual actual situation, you're helping the bully find out what's wrong. And if you get it early enough, maybe you can correct this young man's path or young woman's path and they go on to a better professional existence.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I wanted to ask a little bit about behind the scenes because we've come back stage. I am not walking around in my underwear. It's not happening. Damn it. We're perfect. We often come back after a show. We watch a show. The amazing Mr. Sean Selman.
Starting point is 00:32:47 with Mr. Trondelman, yes. And then we luckily get to come back and meet you guys, but we were, like, amazed. We're like, it feels just like a film set back here. You've got roadies and everyone's half in costume and, like, the familyness that I can sense. Yeah, it is that way, yeah. Are there any kind of, like, back behind the scenes, stories or anything?
Starting point is 00:33:04 People ask me all the time. It says, oh, do you really like so-and-so? Do you really hate so-and-so? It's like any other job. Do you like everybody you work with? No. But you're professional and you do your job. But I would say all of us mainly, yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:16 There are going to be heated rivals here and there because we're all competitive. That's going to happen naturally. We're competitive individuals. But when you spend the amount of time that we spend together four or five days a week, 290 days a year all over the world, you've got a family. You're going to know when, you know, so-and-so's mad or boyfriend, she's not having a good day or, you know. So I find with a brother or sister. Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, you know, it's weird because you can tell when people are having troubles
Starting point is 00:33:43 and maybe they need a hug or maybe they need to talk or maybe they need to be left alone. And you learn to, and most all of us are really good. I'm sure you guys are the same way being actors. Your therapy is your work. So when you get into your work, it's your cleansing. You might be upset, angry, pissed off, sad, depressed, but once you get into your performance, afterwards, you're like, okay, I'm good. And I think that's what all of us we function well at is we're able to take our frustrations, our stresses, and we get to release that energy. positive way out there in our performance.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And I'm not talking about yelling or screaming, but just even the fact of performing in front of the fans and giving them that match or that segment, that's the awesome feeling that you can't trade for anything. I mean, people talk about skydiving. I've never skydived. I'm not insane. I'm not falling out of a perfectly good airplane for nothing. It's not happening.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Tom Cruise, hanging on the side of an airplane. Good for him. I don't have the balls to do it. Not happening. I'm with you, man. How many black people you see get killed by sharks? No. No. We don't do that shit. How many drop you without Everest? None. Because we ain't climbing mountains in the coast.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Okay. Wait, what was the, what was the, no, no, L.L. Kuja, stabbed the shark in the eye. He lived. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fuba Radio. Okay, then and now. We're going to play then and now, okay? Favorite film when you were young? I'm not insinuating that you're old, but, you know. No, I got it. I know where you're going. You didn't have to fill that in here. Younger. Bastard. When I was younger, I think I had two films that I love. Of course, I love Star Wars when I was I was blown away by Star Wars, blown away by Star Trek.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I remember watching with my dad Bridge over the River Kwai. Wow, yeah. And that was one of those kind of movies that was intellectually so far above me for that age. But I just remember getting into the movie and be like, it took me away. Even as a kid, it held my interest. I was a Goonies, man. Remember Goonies? Oh, yeah. Hey, you guys.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah, I know, but I look like the Goonies, so I'm skipping over there. Thanks a lot for saying that. Thanks. Oh, yeah. I could be the Gooney. Yeah, I know. Thanks. Favorite film now, you think?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Favorite film now? Brotherhood. Which, by the way, is number two in the box office. I think, it's funny, I've had some films that I absolutely love, and it's funny, I tend to go towards, like, Eastwood. My favorite, of all times, Unforgiven. It's one of my favorite films because of the character was so awesome, because even though he's there and he's trying to change his path,
Starting point is 00:36:14 but he's done outlawed Josie Wales and two mules for Sister Sarah. So you had no problems excepting the fact of this character's past that William Moody was a bad son of a gun who tried to change his ways. And then Gene Hackman was so amazing being that bully and the way he went after English Bob and, you know, that the whole synergy they were doing there were where Gene Hackman was the aggressor. He was the intimidating one. He was the bigger alpha. Yeah. And then Eastwood's sick. He's got the flu.
Starting point is 00:36:45 You know, the kid's trying to be like Eastwood but does still has a soul. So, you know, I mean, even though he shot the guy in the toilet, you find out that he's never killed anybody before. And he realizes he doesn't have that black heart to do it. So you see that human side, that human gamut. And then when Morgan Freeman gets killed and Eastwood has the drink, you see the chance. I got goosebumps now. You see the change come over his character where it's almost like, I'm done. done. I'm not playing around anymore. And then you see how things change where Hackman, who was
Starting point is 00:37:18 the bully, out ends up like all bullies. He's on the receipt because he ran into a bigger alpha. And you saw the fact that Eastwood didn't have any remorse. He didn't have any soul. It was just you're dealing with death and death has showed up and called your number. And I just, I love that movie for that. So that was my examination of unforgiving. It was a little deep. That's it. That's it. What's your favorite previous film that you've done? Film that I've done actually my best work not that is that extensive. I love the work I just did with the Soska Sisters in Vendetta. It was kind of a quick movie.
Starting point is 00:37:51 We shot it in three weeks, which is fast. Yeah, that was an opportunity. I worked with Dean Kane, who I don't know if you guys know Dean, but he is absolutely amazing. I have my first death scene. And we were running out of daylight, and it was the last shot of the day that we were doing that day when I die. We have one basic cause of lighting.
Starting point is 00:38:10 We have one shot at it. One shot at it, you know. And I've never died before. I've got, you know, all this stuff to do. And so Dean ends up slicing my throat while I'm on top of him. I'm about to shoot him. He's got a knife hit and he cuts my throat. So I've got to grab my throat and bleed and then fall off of him.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Because at the end, because I had beaten his wife and killed her by hand and tortured him, I've been the bully. Now that my throat's cut and I'm bleeding out, the tables have turned. he's going to be above me, put a bullet in my head, kill me. Now I get to be afraid and vulnerable, which I haven't been in the whole movie. Which you know as an actor, as an actor, that art to go from, ah, to afraid, it's cool. But as I'm on top of him dying, I start to fall off, and he holds my hip. So I'm wrestling, I get it, he's giving me the office.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And then when the time's right, he pulls on my jeans a little bit, and then I fall off of it. So then we finished a shot, and the girls were like, oh, that was awesome. That was perfect time. I was like, my man took care of me. But he was that kind of giving actor. Like, it was a prison movie and, you know, it was low budget, but we did what we could do with it. But he did all of his own stunts. He took the beatings every day.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And it's really amazing because he set the tone of how a good lead actor sets a tone. Nice to everybody. Yeah. Shows up on time. Can do attitude. Works his ass off. And the set was so amazing the way everybody worked hard because the lead actor set that tone. And that was one thing I learned right away.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Like, that's the kind of actor. I want to be a guy that's that works. with everybody that says hello to everybody that works well with everybody. And, you know, if you do have an attitude, you have it at home in the hotel room by yourself and you kick the shit out of the pillow at home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed work with him so far the best.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I mean, every experience is unique where I did knucklehead. Michael Watkins was directing that. My first director. Was he not going to one way your character was a bit? I was a bit, I'd grown up in an orphanage. I wouldn't, you know, it's not like tropic thunder. It's not like, yeah. It's not like tropic thunder.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I didn't go full. Yeah. You know, but anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael Walkins, my first director meeting with him. I meet Michael Watkins. He's, you know, easy writer. He's done all these amazing words, NYPD Blue and all these shows.
Starting point is 00:40:15 He's a hell of a director. He's a little crazy, he's a hell of a director. He comes in with a straight face. He says, I got two rules. Know your lines and show up on time. He walks out. Yeah. And I was like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Oh, my God. So I know this script. I know the DNA of this script. Like, we didn't have a title for the movie. It was called The Big Show Project. We didn't even have a title for it yet. So then when I get on set with him, I spit the lines out. And he comes over and he says, listen, you know the character.
Starting point is 00:40:45 If some of the lines stain your teeth, which is a great line. He says, put it on how Walter would say it. It's a be Walter. You know Walter. So then he was so kind. I was like, okay, where's that crazy guy? This is cool. But with him, I learned a one T, T, two, T, T, T,
Starting point is 00:41:02 3T, 4T shot. He taught me all the little creeps of Mickey Rooney and the martin. Like, I learned a lot of the language because I just sat next to him at the camera and learned. So speaking of that, do you feel like, is there a director that you would absolutely love to work with? And learning so much from, as you just described, do you think directing one day, whether it be WDWB programming or whether it be movies or something that you'd like to go into? I don't think I would have any aptitude whatsoever being a director at this stage.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I am so green. I wouldn't even want to try to venture into that feel. Directors are amazing because they actually picture the entire movie in their heads. That's an ability that I don't know if I have to be able to do. The relationships they have with their crew to motivate their crew, which you know a movie is based on its crew. You live and die by your work efficiency of your crew. I don't think I'd want to undertake that pressure.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You know what I mean? As far as directors, there's so many great directors out there. But, you know, you have your dream director. yeah, I'd love to be directed by Clint Eastwood someday. Of course, I'd rather have, I wouldn't mind having a donut and a cup of coffee with Clint Clint Eastwood. I wouldn't mind scrubbing Clint Eastwood's toilet. I'm fine with whatever. I just want to hang out with Clint Eastwood. Scrummy twos. Scrum my toilet.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Okay. You're okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Glad to do it, sir. I'll do that, sir. But, you know, I mean, you know, that's one of those kind of things where you want to work, I mean, I'm open-minded. I want to work with anybody that will help me become the best actor that I can be, get the best performance that I can, and willing to take a risk on me. Because there's a thing, I'm very coachable. I've been an athlete my whole life. So I'm used to running offenses, running defenses, whatever matches we need out there hitting time queues.
Starting point is 00:42:43 So I'm used to following directions and instruction. And I think that's one thing that I do bring to the table for a big guy is I'm very open with my other actors. I feed off the energy of my other actors that help me put me where I need to be. And when you get that synergy flowing, I'm getting the cusp of it now, but you can really see where you're going to be. great actors have that magic and it's done right. So that's the entertaining part for me. That's a part that I want to be a part of. And someday maybe get into some live theater acting and stuff,
Starting point is 00:43:09 which is kind of like wrestling, but theater I think would be good at some point. This is one of the best theater shows we ever see. Aw, thanks. Many Malachs would get a buddy in mine. She was a knucklehead. She talked to me all the time. What was the movie she wanted me to redo?
Starting point is 00:43:25 Of Mice and Men. Oh, Mice and Wow. Yeah, she wanted me. She says that would be a good one for me. like theater acting because I'd have the, you know, when you're in front of a crowd, you have the instant gratification of the audience. Films was completely different because you don't know what you did. And there's some editor that's picking something that he thinks is good because sometimes
Starting point is 00:43:42 you watch and go, ah, that other one was better. Because I don't watch, I'm not a watch my daily's kind of guy. Because I wouldn't know if I did sound right or wrong anyway. I trust the director of my other actors in my gut. And then watching again is not going to help anything, but keep me up all night, question it, you know? Honestly, man. You know, this is like theater.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I've done theater. You know, I've done theater. I've done theater for years before I started making movies and directing movies and blah, blah, blah, blah. If you think, you know, you're saying I'd love to theater, you guys are doing it and doing it well. Oh, fantastic. I think you're probably a lot closer than you actually think. And you're performing tonight, aren't you? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Big Guy Winni Spandex. Yay! We'll spot you. We'll watch you. Good song. That's it. Man, thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Thank you. I look forward to catching it. Yes. I'll be back in the States next week, so we'll check it out. We'll see. But thank you so much. Thank you very much. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Thank you. Thank you. She's been... Fubour. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and No Clark on Fubour Radio. Hello, people.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Hello. Hello. Good Friday. Good Friday. Good Friday. Good Friday. It's not good Friday, but it's a good Friday.
Starting point is 00:44:48 It is a good Friday. It's all right. Right. It's Johanna James. And this week... We have T.J in the building. Yes, Tijworld himself. So I've been living for Noel Clark
Starting point is 00:44:58 as he's in Toronto. film festival yeah no he's he's he's gone off to Toronto film festival because brotherhood has got into the festival which is amazing I know go on Noel get into that film festival tell Drake I said hello right guys we have in the studio today we have got two members yes of the mandam on the wall third one is on the way he's flying down so welcome guys welcome thanks for having us yeah so if you'd like to introduce which one's which Okay, so this voice that you can hear now is Javan, Javan Wade.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And this voice, the slender and fine one, is D-Carte. Also the lying one. Clearly. Like it, I like it. That's brilliant. And you guys, yeah, you guys are members of Wall of Commonwealth, Mandsham on the Wall and also Wall of Comedy. If you could explain to the listeners in case they're not sort of educated.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Cool. In case they live in a hole. Yeah, literally an internet free hole. I'll take Mnham, you take Wall comedy. Cool, so Mandaum on the Wall is an online series about three characters failure, played by myself. Younger Baker, played by Dee, and Younger Baby Tiny Winy, played by Purcell. And it's about three, what do you want to call them, hoodlums, hood rats, something like that, who basically sit on the wall every single day and just kind of tell stories
Starting point is 00:46:15 about their everyday lives. And we started that about five years ago. About 30 million views deep. Wow. Yeah, man, we're ahead now. Was it YouTube or was it? It was YouTube, but it ended up on the telly as well. The characters ended up on a show called Youngers. Okay. So you've played those characters in that program? Yeah, so they just sucked our characters, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nicket him, man.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Well, at least they didn't get someone else to play views in that program. That could have been deep. Yeah, that would have been down. So where is the wall actually based? Let's get some insight info. The geographical location. Or where they're meant to be from? Are they meant to be from where you?
Starting point is 00:46:54 Do you know what? Yeah, go on. Like, generally speaking, the characters are not really from a specific place, they're just kind of generic and we try to keep it as generic as possible. But in terms of real terms, we're all from south, isn't it? And where is the actual wall? The actual wall. The first wall is in the borough
Starting point is 00:47:10 of Luciam. Which is where I'm from. I'm from Brooklyn. Oh wow. That's nice of some inside info. We should be like, it should be like in like one of those tour guide books. They should put a plaque on the wall. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like tour to South London. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:28 It's huge. I want commission if people start paying I want beef eaters standing by the wall and stuff like that as well No, because it's like the Great Wall of China And then you've got the Great Wall of the Union Yeah, exactly what I'm thinking they can both be seen from space Exactly Yeah, and the Wall of Comedy That's like a comedy platform
Starting point is 00:47:48 It's huge on Facebook Oh, I love that, I love it guys, please, please go and watch Wall of Comedy If you are born or unhappy, you broke up with your missis Or you're just coming from a funeral Go and cheer yourself up Or you're just at home high that's like 70% of our audience
Starting point is 00:48:04 yeah it's strolling and you get yourself into a hole but yeah sorry go on yeah no so it's just a comedy platform it hosts a wide range of comedy talent online it's got millions of views
Starting point is 00:48:17 what's it on now it's on 2.5 million likes aka followers and between 2 to 300 million views per month do do do do do do do do do do you guys manage that Are you managing the page or do you just put content on the page?
Starting point is 00:48:33 Like how do you, is it a business now? It's a business. It's a, yeah, it's kind of a big deal now. Yeah, no, it's kind of a syllable. Okay. It's huge. Is it turned into that Facebook? It's just, there's not just a Zockeberg.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Yeah, there's a bunch of, yeah, Zoccovert. I love that. There's a bunch of, um, uh, uh, I'm trying to think of an acronym for a watercom. Yeah, it's a team. A team, yeah. A squad. A bunch of bricks which create that wall. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Text me. There you go. Change us analogy, I like that. Yes, yes. So, yeah, we have a full team who, you know, who work with us and help us to run a page. And, yeah, we were just, we didn't really do much. We just kind of came up with it.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Nice. Have you just got an office now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do, man, yeah. You know, like, do you have, you're going to expand it and do, like, they do on Facebook, they've got, I think the Facebook offices on the Google offices, they've got, like, table tennis and games and everything.
Starting point is 00:49:25 You got all that stuff? Yeah. Can I come down and jam? All of that. We ain't got that stuff yet. We ain't got it yet. We're gonna do that. What you do, let me know I want to come around and play in it.
Starting point is 00:49:34 We're gonna come around and get whooped. Yeah. What, a table tennis? Yeah, yeah. Come up. Bro, I swear in a past life, I was Chinese, bro. But did you go youth club, though? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Bro, I went, I went, huge club. Yeah. I told youth clubs. But I'm talking about the youth clubs where the rubble was peeled off. Yeah, yeah. It was just wood. I used to have to play with my hand, bro. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You know them way they're like back hands with a real back hand. Okay, so you never reach foot levels. Yeah. No, no, no, no. See it there. You still go of your hand. Come on. Alright.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Cool, let's be right. Okay, right. We've got the third member. Who? Reduce yourself, sir. Yo, what's going on? It's Penguin here. From the Wall of Comedy.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Percy is also a name. He meant pussy old, but he's going to rough. You had to swear on this, me. Yeah. It's Fubbar. Do you know what Fubbar stands for? What is this example? How you say it?
Starting point is 00:50:29 Have a guess. What's the acronym? Fuck you All right All right It stands for Fucked beyond all recognition It was actually
Starting point is 00:50:43 It is really So I'm mad like that Look at the logo Guess what that is That's a middle finger That is a middle finger That is the best station ever That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:50:52 Fuck with Fubbar Oh my God So Fubbar Do I get a chair Do I get a chair? No you can't say We sold it I sold the chair
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah, oh, once again, I'm going to get one for you. Just a little chance. So, guys, as well as doing YouTube and Facebook and all this stuff, I hear that you actually have a actual movie coming out in the production line as well. Indeed, we do. Yes, we do. Like an actual movie? An actual movie, like an actual film.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Is it the same characters? Or is it? No, completely different characters. The film is called The Weekend Movie. And it's about a group of friends. They find, well, this group of friends specifically are not really used to kind of being in money and being popular or having any attention, really. And they find...
Starting point is 00:51:36 Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing about being an actor. You can play it as far away. That's far. That's that complete optic polar opposites. And yeah, these characters find 100 grand and their lives change over a weekend. But whose money was that? Watch it and find out.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Santa Claus. Oh, maybe. I'm just putting a guess. Could be. The two fairy. Did they spend it all? Or they try and spend it all. They don't save it, open up an eyes,
Starting point is 00:52:01 think about going to an investment banker You know stock shares See the messaging of films nowadays needs to change It should It should you know the whole coding of films nowadays Is it all wrong? It is. Oh well if you're young and you found 100 grand
Starting point is 00:52:17 You are not going to invest no shares I know that so it sounds like a really fun movie guys I cannot wait to see it Did you write it or was it No we didn't write it we had great input in it And you know a lot of flexibility And the trust of the director and of the writers, which, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Who directed it? It was directed by Sheridan Myers, and it was, the story was by Kojo. We got Kojo, we got Kojo and Sheridan. Kojo, the comedian. That was so passionate. Yeah, we got Khohoi, Harry! Enunciate, D, Enunciate on the radio.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I love that. It sounds real fun. So were you allowed to ad lib, some of the line? Because, you know, like, some people are quite precious, you know, especially Kojo being a comedian. He will have his timing, like, bang. on and stuff like that so are you like to play with the script in any way or was he like no that's
Starting point is 00:53:04 not where the laugh comes yeah no you know it is like when you're funny i'm just straight up diva i'm just straight up diva oh snap we've been food bars sense for honesty yeah yeah they just said you know you guys are funny so there was a lot of trust to be honest it could have been different you know what yeah but yeah cojo was like look we the reason why we wanted you guys to these characters because we want to bring your flavor to these characters and that meant you know us being our input and, you know, making what was funny funnier. Yes, brilliant.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And you have to understand, Cojo's a comedic genius. Yeah, you know, so when we were at work, you know, very often you'd see shock in his eyes because he was witnessing magic every time.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Magic. Look at him. I like you. You know, David Blaine up in the room. Look at you. He's like David Blaine. This is Houdini, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:53:53 I like that. I like that, I like that. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel. Clark on Fulbar Radio. Hello, welcome everybody. It's Johanna James. And TJ, aka T.J.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Filling in for Noel Cart today on Back Row and Chill. Yes. It's Friday. Oh, wow. Thank God it's Friday. We might have to get that tune on today. Ooh, get that Friday feeling kickstarted. Mm, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You've had coffee today. Or something. Johanna. Just saying. That's how rumours start, you know. That is how rumours start, you know. Stop. Me.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Well, I know what. We are going to play, finally, you're going to play your Kent Jones interview. Oh, yeah. Because I'm so excited to hear about this. Right. So, here we go, is a bit of Kent Jones. I'm DJ. Nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:54:43 You already know. As you know, obviously, your song got to number one in the US hip-hop charts, right? And it stayed in the UK charts for about six weeks. It was like, man, that's amazing here. Absolutely amazing. I've bloody loved that song, by the way. When you found out that it was at number one, how did you celebrate? What was the first thing?
Starting point is 00:55:00 you did. I was in studio. What did you do, though? Like, take me there. What did we do? What did you do? What was you did? I don't know if I did you get a phone call? Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean, you know, Callet, me and Calut talked about it. Yeah. But as far as the celebrate thing, did I celebrate that? Yo, cool, then we celebrate that. Nigs was in the studio, right? Okay, okay, cool. That's your manager there? You know who that, you know who that is? I can't see my, think of my glasses. You know who cool and Dre is, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Shut up! Yeah, it's a legend. Of course I know. Yeah. Oh my God, sorry. Mate, you know what? You ain't celebrated the number one? Call me, you.
Starting point is 00:55:38 We're going to go celebrate the number one later. I like that. Yeah? Because you ain't celebrating. So I'm going to make that happen for you. I care. We had that district tonight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:44 I'm going to make that happen just to you. All right. So yeah, congratulations on that. I think it's absolutely epic that, you know, and, you know, beat in the top 100 and the billboard as well. I mean, it's just, wow. But also I want to ask you, in that song you speak a few languages
Starting point is 00:55:59 and stuff like that. Are you bilingual by any chance? I'm not. You're not? No. Okay then. So if you could speak another language, what language would you speak? Uh, sarcasm. That being your first language, your first option? Yes. You sure?
Starting point is 00:56:15 We do a film show. If you could do a film or be in a film, one, what kind of genre would the film be, okay? And what would that film be called? That's funny. Ken Jones did, Ken Jones definitely got his first movie off. For real. It's funny you say that. Yeah. The type of movie I would want to be in, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Go ahead. I mean, I want to be in this one, too. Let's not get that wrong. Yeah. I want to be in the movie. But if I were to, we'll talk about it. All right, cool. If I were to, you know, choose a movie, it would be either between like a house party, a Friday.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Yeah. Or, like I said, I want to do the horror movies, but I want to actually, I want to play the villain. Oh, really? Yes. So I make a real good crazy. Yeah? Yeah. What kind of villain?
Starting point is 00:57:02 My favorite horror villain is Freddie Kruger. Who's your favorite? I'm more like a... The Joker slash... Slash... Slash... Slash... ...a Kingpin from Daredevil.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Damn! That's a new kind of mix of horror villain. I'd like to see that. We need to make that happen. All right, then. So myself is Freddy Krueger and you is the Joker slash King Ping. Tarantino, if you're out there, you know, make that happen. We're ready.
Starting point is 00:57:28 ready. All right. So you like Earth, wind and fire, of course. I love. Love Earth, Wind and Fire, as we know. Okay. So I wanted to ask you, if you could be a superhero, okay? Right.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And you could have a superhuman power and you control one thing. Would it be Earth, Wind, or Fire? Which would you control? Light. So what would that come under? Would that come under Earth? That's fire. That's fire.
Starting point is 00:57:48 It's one of it. I mean, it's an element on its own. It's an element. That's the element they never added. It's the actual, seriously, the actual core elements are Earth. Wind. wind, fire and light. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And so you'd be like. Yes. So you just done, took my question and just fucked it all lot. You fucked up the whole thing straight. It's all good. I like that. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That's good. You've given a lot on your interviews today. Yes. You've given a lot of things. People have been interviewing all day. So you're giving a lot of yourself and you give you a lot of yourself to the world because you make such great music. And you give so much enjoyment to many people and millions across the world. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Right. So I am wanting to give you something in return. Some fun facts about yourself that you never knew about yourself. Okay. I'll like to call this segment, does Kent Jones know? First fact about yourself is Kent is a county in UK just outside of South London. Did you know that? Yeah. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Second fact about yourself is Kent Jones is actually a real estate agent in the UK in a place called Rexham. The website is www.w.w.kentjones.com.uk. So if you're thinking about buying property, possibly, you know, might get some free property, you might want to drop them, you know what I'm saying? So they're using your name, Kentjones.com.uk, hula, whatever. That's another fun fact about yourself. And the third fun fact about yourself is that you share the same second name as a great superhero Superman. Clark Kent.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yes. There you go. So that is, that's fun facts about yourself. There you go. Do you feel like you know yourself a bit better now? Yes. Thank you for that. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:59:25 You're welcome. Okay, so I want to ask you, what is your favorite film? It's hard, man. Or top three? Top three, all right, that's better. Garment. Let's do that. Let's hold it.
Starting point is 00:59:33 We got the six man. Okay. Featuring Marlon Wayans and Cadeem Hardison. Oh, I need to go watch that. Okay, we need to watch that. We need the trailer. We need to go back, okay. I think my sweet Valentine or something like that.
Starting point is 00:59:49 My sweet valent. Is that a rom-com? It's a horror movie. A horror movie? Yeah. Oh, is it the first 3D? That's the guy. That's the guy that was in the mime.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah. And they were going and digging and killing people. Oh, snap. Shit. The graphics on that is incredible. Yeah, yeah. All the final destinations. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Well, like, you think how many ways can they accidentally kill someone? You know, it's incredible. Every way. Like, have you got a favorite final destination kill? My top three kills on final destination. Go, go. Was, A, when the guy was in the drive-thru and the truck ran into him and the fan sliced his head.
Starting point is 01:00:25 and half. Jeez, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the other one was when the guy was like, I'm not gonna die at the end, the thing and Kemp, split him in half. And I think the last one would have to be when the roller coaster broke. Yeah, they flew out of the thing. I think mine's the one when the glass dropped on top of him, I would say. That was a deep one.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Oh, no, no, no, no. Smushed. The guy when the guy was working out. Yeah. And the thing came down and smashed his head. That was a good one too. That was a good one as well. But I wanted to ask you this, Jay, okay?
Starting point is 01:00:57 Go with me on this little journey, all right? So you're walking through the desert, yeah? As you're walking through the desert, you stumble upon this magic lamp, okay? This magic lamp gives you one wish, and you can bring back any music artist to work with from the pastor, who's sadly left us now. Who would you bring back? If you were walking through the desert, you stumbled upon this magic lamp, okay? This lamp gave you one wish, and the wish was to bring back a music artist to put on a record from the dead. the dead you can bring them back and to be on a track with you who would you bring back
Starting point is 01:01:27 they have to be mike boom i'd say the same damn thing ken you've been absolutely amazing have you enjoyed the interview absolutely oh that's great that's great that's great okay i've listened to your new track it's absolutely amazing i predict it for going to number one if it doesn't then i'm gonna go i'm a beat up mr billboard himself or whatever it's called okay i'll do that for you bro we got one all right another one good big shout out the gigs yes No, it's not going to stop. Yes. There you go.
Starting point is 01:01:56 There you go. All right, thank you. I've been Teage World on Fubal Radio and this has been the amazing Kent Jones. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Feebar Radio. I'm Johanna James and I'm here with Maria. Natalia. Just so we can explain to all my listeners on the radio show, you're a member of Pussy Riot and you're a founding member of the Belarus Free Theatre.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Belarus Free Theatre. Pussy Riot. It's much more easier to pronounce than Belarus-free theater. People, yeah, in England, people know the word pussy more. For people who don't know what you are and what you do, do you want to just quickly explain to people why you're in London right now? We are back to a theater, Soho Theater, from where we started in the UK in 2008. We brought our two production, Bin Harold Pinter and Generation Jins,
Starting point is 01:02:46 and it was the last public appearance of our patron Harold Pinter. and it was absolutely unforgettable time in this particular country. In that moment we came living in Belarus. This moment, my husband and me and our partner, Vladimir Shabin, were political refugees in the UK, but our actors continued to work underground in Belarus. And Marsha is our special guest who was underground in Belarus, right? Yes, so we are here because we are doing a show Burning Doors on this stage, you probably see. So it's our first collaboration.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And it's your first ever debut show? And my first time on the stage, yes. And it talks about three artists, Masha, Peter Pavlansky, who is number one contemporary artist in Russia, who was released in June, and Olyxon, so for Ukrainian filmmaker who got 20 years in jail,
Starting point is 01:03:38 and he served only two years. And so for people who don't know, who maybe think it's a play, it's more of like a performance piece, like a protest piece? Complicated, multi-layered. Multi-layered. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:51 It's a physical theater. It's a psychological theater. It's a lot of understanding of where we have limits of our body and our mind. The show is in Russian, but it has subtitles. Everybody can see it. I had heard of Pussy Riot before, like in news. And it was on my kind of circle of knowledge. But I didn't understand what they were until I properly Googled it and looked you up.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Because I thought like many other people that you, that you were a band, which is not true. So we want to make sure that everybody understands what Prissy Right is and it's not a band. No, it's a punk collective, actually. Yeah, collective. Punk collective, which is doing political art. The story is very easy when President Putin decided to go third time to president's chair. We started our, let's say, activities in Russia after one of them, which was in the
Starting point is 01:04:49 so-called cathedral. In Moscow, we were put into prison for two years, two of us, me and Nadia. And after that, we were released and we started a human rights project. And now we're helping other prisoners succeed several times. For example, we were providing a lawyer to Peter Pavlensky, who is one of the characters, let's say, of this play. And also, we are doing art projects. So this is one of them. it's a chance to firstly show the very inside of my prison experience. Yeah, so two years you were inside for standing up for yourself, essentially. Yes, but also to reflect and to show some parts of my story, which I think most problematic.
Starting point is 01:05:40 So do you play yourself in the performance? I am myself. Yeah, and you are performing as yourself. Does it make you super emotional? It's better actually to see because it's a little bit hard to be like inside and outside. It's a little bit schizophrenic feeling. Yeah, yeah, I'm playing me and me like everywhere. And it's very strange.
Starting point is 01:06:02 One of the goals of this performance is to show what can happen if you're doing a, if you're doing political art. And one of goals is free Alex Ansov who actually had just like 20 years of prison for nothing. Twenty fucking years. In Russian prison means death, actually. He's now in the middle of Siberia, in the mostly total isolation. He's still there? Yes, he's there.
Starting point is 01:06:32 That part of the play, which is dedicated to Sense of and reflect Sense of Situation, is what Natalia called physical theater, but for my opinion, it's feelings of the actors, how they understand tortures, how they understand all this pressure which everybody actually have on the body when he go to prison. My radio show is all about entertainment and movies and TV show and Netflix and we were asking. Oh, Netflix. Yeah, and I read up about you and said, oh, you were on a Netflix show, weren't you? Yes, I was.
Starting point is 01:07:06 What show were you on? Cars of Cars. That's a huge American Netflix show. And you were playing yourself in the show as well? We were, yes, we were us as Pussy Riot. That's really cool, though. So do you watch Netflix? I've watched House of Cards.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Do you have a favorite movie, each of you? I'm really like to watch movies, but I like classics. I like Odyssey 2001. Oh, yeah, Space Odyssey 2001? Cool. Sci-fi girl. For me, it's a documentary film. It's called Winter on Fire.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Okay. It is about Ukrainian events that happened a few years ago when many people got killed. So it's very powerful. Winter on fire. Winter on fire. It's in English that will make a huge difference if you watch it and come to see this particular show.
Starting point is 01:07:58 It's about young people how they defended freedom. And I think it's exactly about what is almost lost under democracy when young generation doesn't value that particular luxury as a democracy that you have. and in our countries young people go to jail for that so watch it and it will be a great experience well thank you so much because i think that this is a really great show bringing the heart of london you're bringing your stories from the other side of the world and i think more young people should go and check it out and come you never saw anything like that and so how long does the show go until till
Starting point is 01:08:33 the end of september till the 24th of september and then we go to falmus manchester portmust and dartington and then Italy and Australia. So if you have audience there, then definitely in New York next September. Amazing. Well, thank you for taking five minutes speaking with us. Thank you. Thank you. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fulbar Radio.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Good afternoon, everybody. It's back row and chill. I'm joined today by Ozzie Azaki. No? Ozzie Achilles. Ozzie Achilles. Oh, man. You got it right the other time.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I know I did. I was like, I'm not going to read it, I'm going to remember, and I didn't. Ozzie Azaki's quite cool, I like that. I'm going to call you that now, Mr. Zaki. Maybe because we were just briefly talking about Japanese films. It's on the mind. But anyway, thank you so much for being my co-host today. You're filling in for Noel Clark, who is filming in Berlin. Right, we are going to go on to a phone interview with our second guest today.
Starting point is 01:09:34 It's Remy Vaughn Richards, who's a director of a guerrilla-style music documentary called Fargy Agba. I thought that right. So Remy, hopefully, is on the phone. Let's see if she is on the line. Remy, are you on the line? Yes, I'm on the line. I can hear you live and clear. Yes, you are live on the radio. Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for calling in. We would like to hear a little bit more about your documentary,
Starting point is 01:09:57 which is currently screening a part of the BFI's Black Star season. Is that right? Yes. Beyond Nollywood is the subsection of that, yes. Okay. So basically, it's a film that took me like six years to make. I started off as a pet project just following a friend of mine and brought these master musicians together. I started following them and over the course of the six years, can their lives and deaths unfold and they kind of chart the history of music and culture of Lagos in 1940s to present day 2015, really.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's a labor of love, self-financed everything. It was very much, it is kind of guerrilla style, kind of raw. But yeah, it was a passion project. No, totally. So over the six years, how many times did you go out? I'd get phone calls. I mean, they were rehearsing. They managed to go to, they were invited at some point to go to America in 2011.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I started in 2009. And then in 2011, they invited to Prospect Park, Brooklyn's music festival. So whenever they did rehearsals, I get phone calls, rehearsing now. Kunle was able to say, were rehearsing now. Come get your stuff. So I just gather my equipment and rush there. But I was always there, sort of, in between work. as of my paying work, I'd always be hanging out and finding out where they were and just sit with them and follow them around.
Starting point is 01:11:17 And, you know, so I can't be saying because I look back at it now, I'm thinking, how the hell did I do that? I don't even know how I did it. Dedicated. I don't know how I managed to film, you know, the one part in America where one of them dies on the plane. And I'm there when the phone call. I just happen to be there all the time somehow. I don't know. Wow.
Starting point is 01:11:37 That's really impressive. Yeah. Amazing story. and the characters as well of these musicians, and they've got fantastic names as well. My favourite is Fatai Rolling Dollar? Fatai, he's the most character. He's the one that most people know about
Starting point is 01:11:53 because he became, Kunleby discovered him early on, and he's the one that got his profile. He's a real, he marketed himself very well, his complete character. So he's the one like Jane's nose straight away, and he was a fantastic character, really very young-spirited, still having wives at the age of 80-something and having allegedly his children.
Starting point is 01:12:13 We don't know if they're really his children, but, you know, he was still nursing around, still smoking lots of weed, still living the life of rock and roll. It was an awesome character. Or a rock star. Call him Rolling Dollar Rockstar, amazing. And so from, so was this the first documentary that you'd attempted to make, or was it? This is my first passion project. I mean, I kind of make documentaries as a living in Nigeria. but this was the one that really caught me
Starting point is 01:12:39 and I can say it wasn't it wasn't meant to be a documentary at first I was just recording it and then somehow it kind of the more you get into something the years later stories do unfold and then they start to talk about history of Lagos the music scene and realized their place they were kind of forgotten heroes
Starting point is 01:12:53 they were the people that were before people that became very big I don't know if you know Ebenezo or Baylor's really big people they employed him as an instrument and then he's like one of the major characters in the music scene So they were like people that, they weren't known, but they had a strong place in the history. It's kind of strange how they didn't get, never quite made it.
Starting point is 01:13:13 But they were fundamental in creating other people. And how did you get it from, so you created it on your own? And then how did you get it into sort of associated with the BFI? Well, it's just Nadia Denton. She was doing this series called Part of Black Star Beyond Nollywood. And I guess someone must have told her about it. Because it's done the circuit. It got awarded for this Africa Magic Viewers' Choice Award.
Starting point is 01:13:39 It got voters for Best Documentary. I entered it for festivals. It's played in some parts of the world already. I even showed in Finland. The Greenland requested it, bizarrely. I don't know how greenland. It's shown in Spain. It's shown at the New York African Film Festival.
Starting point is 01:13:54 It's been doing the festival. Yeah, it's getting round. Yeah. And are you still in contact with, I mean, I know a lot of them have passed away now, but are you still in contact with some of the band and the guys? yeah absolutely well after the old boys there's only one left
Starting point is 01:14:08 yeah very sad and my tragedy is because this is self-financed and we haven't got funding bodies like you have in England in Nigeria you know everything's down to you and I wanted to whatever money I get or got I would give a percentage back
Starting point is 01:14:24 to them you know it's kind of sad really because I would love to give them there's only one left and he's always saying when me give me some money give me some money to buy I think, you know, you know, I'll give you, if I get anything from this project, you're always going to get a percentage.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I mean, I didn't manage to get sponsorship towards the latter end to do the post-production through private oil company in Nigeria and the Goethe Institute and another individual. It helped me with the post-production. And I got an airline to fly me to New York to follow them there. So I did get some, but after I shot everything, pretty much when everything was kind of done. and I gave them the guys some money out of anything I got. So, yeah, it's sad, really. It's sad.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They all died not seeing the film ever. Oh, no. Damn. Yeah. Oh, well, at least they are, they're documented now forever, and you've got that. Yes. And their next generation of family will have that as well.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah, so what's next up for you? Have you got any other sort of films or documentaries that you want to get your hands into? Passion projects are kind of weird, because you don't find them, they find you. I'm still waiting for another one to hit me. Meanwhile, I'm working on some feature films, some sort of lowish budget to kickstart my drama side of me. As far as documentaries, I'm doing a series in Nigeria.
Starting point is 01:15:48 This time I'm being paid. It's almost fun. For an individual, again, it's all the individuals in Nigeria. He's doing a series on the birth of contemporary arts in Nigeria because before the, after the, there wasn't any contemporary arts in Nigeria to the British came and then established a sort of established form of art school. So
Starting point is 01:16:05 they all die. Again, then they're 70s, 80s so I'm doing a series covering them before the main ones die. The main modern contemporary artists in Nigeria, I guess. So I'm doing a series on them. But that's on a passion project. It's kind of passionate at the same time,
Starting point is 01:16:22 but it's not like I'm using my own money, I'm being paid to do this. So I'm not as free to do what I want. I have to follow the client's format. But it's still, it's a great project. And where would people, if people are interested in seeing the the document, the music documentary, how could they go about seeing that? Because obviously it is screening at the BFI on the sound like my challenge, you know. I didn't like this is the pattern project. I didn't think about the whole
Starting point is 01:16:45 marketing and blah, blah, blah, because it, you know, as one normally you should think about your marketing straight away when you do a project. This was ever done really for the money or for the, so that's my challenge now. Apart from doing festivals and again, got to try and raise funding because again, to produce DVDs and get it online stories. It's down to funding. Everything's down to funding. Everything has to be self-financed.
Starting point is 01:17:08 So I'm looking for funding to create the DVDs at this stage. So I don't know, really. Not yet. This is my challenge, right? Three. Oh, perfect. Okay. Well, thank you so much for me for giving us your time.
Starting point is 01:17:21 And thank you for all the crazy hard work on this film. Thank you very much. on Fibar Radio. Yo, everybody. It's Tjana James, and today I'm joined by... What? It's a wagwired in a Monday. Nick Nevin is back on the show. He isn't that out.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Just couldn't live without me, could you? I couldn't. Well, you guessed it on the show a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Went down really well. We're like, let's get you back on. Well, you know, I was only slightly less hungover this time than I was last time, so it should be slightly better. What level of hung are you?
Starting point is 01:17:57 Ha! ha! Ladies. and we have Aaron Unknown in the studio welcome hello hello thank you so your song was on the Brotherhood soundtrack the Brotherhood movie yeah
Starting point is 01:18:12 still can't really believe that how did that come about how did you get your song on there it was actually kind of spontaneous it was actually around this time last year I didn't even know the film was being made oh god it was a whole year ago we made the film wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:18:25 It's mental that's a whoa good organisation yeah But yeah, so I was actually out with Jamal, Jamai Edwards, Halloween. It was Halloween time. Yeah. And he introduced me to Jason.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Again, obviously, I recognised him from previous films and stuff. But obviously, I didn't know. Probably the Hunigan factory, mate. You might recognize someone else from that film as well. Not so not too far away from him. Yeah, so you bumped into Jason Mazzar? Yeah, and then basically, obviously, I was a bit shy back then. so Jamar was like, oh, play the tune, play the tune.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I was like, nah, no, no. And Jamar actually played the tune. He was actually in an Uber on the way to somewhere. Yeah. And yeah, he was like, wow, like I've got a show this to know. So obviously he passed it on. Again, I didn't know anything like that was going on. And then Jamar was like, yeah, they're going to put it in a film.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I was like, what? I think my voice actually went like that. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, I've looked up to know, like, from a kid, you know what? I was a teenager when a kid, would first come out, do you know what I mean? And obviously Doctor Who and things like that.
Starting point is 01:19:31 He's a ledge, Mike. He's a ledge. Yeah, it's kind of like sinking in as I'm saying it again. Oh my God, I'm not a movie. That's cool. That's cool. That's cool. So, because I've seen some of your stuff on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Okay, yeah. What do you think? Very impressed. Thank you. Yeah, and I think I saw maybe one of your, I think it was like the top video that comes up is like you're the first time that you're ever... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I think that's more because of the views as well. Yeah. I mean, well, it's on quite a lot of views at the moment. How many views have you got, is it? It's like 1.6 million. You never ask a man about his views, look. You heard my voice. No, that's impressive.
Starting point is 01:20:08 You should be like 1.6 million. Yeah, yeah, I should. No, I'm just a humble guy, but, yeah, nice. You're humble, it's nice. That seems to be the video that pops up first, which is obviously good because it's the first one, so people can kind of, like, follow the journey. But, I mean, I haven't really released much,
Starting point is 01:20:22 so that's like the next step, you know. Yeah. So I'm kind of glad that I can kind of talk about what's going to be happening with that. Yeah, so what are you doing? I don't have any dates, but I have got a project undergoing now, like, a... I don't really want to... I'll just say it, like a five-track EP, basically. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:39 And that's going to be a concept EP about the two sort of sides of my life, which is the fashion industry and now, like, the music industry. Because you modelled before? Well, I still... Sorry, you were a model. There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my day job.
Starting point is 01:20:53 That's what, yeah. Nick's a model too. Yeah, for... Yeah, for really fat overweight people eating lots of pies. There's a market for all of us. I am the poster. It's really, listen, I'll tell you what, guys, it's really terrible because I'm sitting here with two bloody good-looking people.
Starting point is 01:21:09 It's really upsetting me now, so. Oh, yeah, we're just a couple of models. Jamming with a couple of models. Well, I don't know about Joanna, but, you know. I'm muddled a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I did a catwalk once when I was 16. What round was it?
Starting point is 01:21:23 It was for, it was actually for, like, a hair. Do you watch by that stuff? It was, fuck off. It was just Salon International. No, I just realized that as I said it. I was just like, God damn it. She's probably rich as well.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Witch and beautiful. Damn it. No, what happened was? I got scouted when I was like 16. I pretended I was 18. And so I could go on the catwalk. And it was for like Salon International. So it was for one of the big hair brands.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Like, God. What, is there an age restriction for that? Yeah. There was an age restriction. Yeah. And so I went on the catwalk. And there was a, was five of us, we had to, like, we were told before,
Starting point is 01:21:57 we had to, like, you know, strut down. And at the end, we had to get in a formation and pose to, like, the media and do, like... Like choreographed, yeah, proper. But me, I'll get to the end, all the other people go left, me go right. And then, like... And I said, no, but you're sitting the trend that you're standing out then, why I'd be a sheep, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:12 It was obvious. It was on the wrong side of the stage. And then I had to... Why be a sheep, that's like, that was true, mate. That's it, you get spotted that way. Otherwise, otherwise it's just another sort of... But I had to make a decision when I was posing. I was like, how do I get over there?
Starting point is 01:22:25 So I just started to slowly move across the stage. That was the last time I went on a catwalk. I was like, I fucked it, that was much. I love that. I love that. Oh, we've got a couple of emails in, so I thought let's just like open that. Okay, okay, there's a lot of stuff. All right, it says, listening from...
Starting point is 01:22:43 There's a lot of hate mail for me is that. A lot of Nick Hape Mail. No, a lot of Nick Love Mail. There's, listening from Texas, is Nick's nails still painted? What's that about, Nick? Nail or nail? No, last time of my Snapchat, some chick painted my nails
Starting point is 01:23:02 in some part. Just one? Just one, just the pinky. I shit myself, I didn't want to go through the whole thing, you know what I mean? What colour? It has to be pink. No, it's proper red.
Starting point is 01:23:12 It was proper like, you know, it was like, not like yours, but like, slightly lighter than that, but yeah, lit red, yeah. I looked like pretty women. Gosh. He says, so people are nuts for Harambe. They even have a thing.
Starting point is 01:23:23 called Dix Out for Harambi. They do online. It's like a salute to Harambi. It's called Dix Out for Harambi. Okay. Do you know who Harambi is? No. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, right. Yeah, that was me like sort of, yeah. That was you on Google,
Starting point is 01:23:39 isn't it? Don't Google? Don't Google. Who the fuck's Harambe? No, I'm joking. No, you're not. You don't know. Apparently, well, no. I know now I can inform you. Harambe is that gorilla who got Oh yeah. Okay, no.
Starting point is 01:23:54 So I didn't know either, mate, don't worry. So, well, yeah, I don't know. Oh, right, okay, I get it. They're kind of bit like Marmite with Ramby. You're either dicks out or you don't know. Or dicks in. Oh, dicks in. You know, that's a bit weird.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Okay. I like the next question, though, on that same email. So you two are great. If you're stuck on an island, what's the CD slash album you would take? I don't own a CD. See, that one's not plural. So that'll take the one album. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Mutant Clan 36 Chambers Fair play You've thought about this Well no He just revised that question It's the best album ever in it If I take
Starting point is 01:24:31 If I take one of like the now Numbered albums Because you get so many So you get like four discs Don't you? Yeah but that's That's cheating No it's it
Starting point is 01:24:40 What CD slash album So one CD as well It's one album On one CD You can't even take like a multi-pack It's just the one It's just the one Could you rephrase your question
Starting point is 01:24:49 Better ladies and gentlemen Could you be specific people? Sorry, no, that's just me. I would say who that was from. So hello, a person from them. Who's the presenter with Nick? Hoot. Cool, thanks. Hey.
Starting point is 01:25:04 That be you, darling. That's me. Hoot, I think, is a term of endearment. Is it? Well, like, hoot? Like, hoot? Ooh. Lovely.
Starting point is 01:25:16 So, hey, if you guys had a film about your life, who would play you? and what would it be called from Simon and Hackney? Well, I'd play myself one night. I was literally about to say that. I don't know if you know, but I'm quite the actor. Nick Devon playing. Nick Nevin.
Starting point is 01:25:32 In a Nick Nevin film directed by Nick Nevin. All right. Who would you get, if you play Nick Nevin in the now, but who would you get to play... The older Nick Nevin? The older Nick Nevin. Little Nick Nevin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Little Nick Nevin. Jason could probably play Little Nick Nevin. Just because he's tiny. It's tiny. Like, he could play me when I was like nine. I'm not involved in this, Jason if you're listening. I didn't say that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Aaron, what about you? Who's someone was going to play, you know, because obviously when you blow up and become the world's best star, who's going to play Aaron Unknown? I like that name, by the way. That's a great, great, great name, but it's a great. I'm actually in the process of writing a lyric about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:12 It's actually, there's a lot of people that, there was a lot of speculation in the comments about, oh, yeah, of course he came up with that name there. And it was like, that was legitimately what happened. and I was there with Jamal. It was an organic moment. I was with Jamal and another artist called Proton. And literally we were just there talking.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And as we was talking about it, Jamal just started rolling like the film. And then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were a little bit nervous and you were talking about what's the name though? Yeah, yeah. Because we had like a couple of options and it was always going to have Aaron in it.
Starting point is 01:26:39 But yeah. Can I speak about that? The illiteration sounds great. No, it's not. What's it called? Is it abbreviation? Yeah. So unknown.
Starting point is 01:26:47 No, it's an acronym. That's it. So unknown is under new knowledge, now overcoming world negativity. So it's like, it's going to be like a whole movement around. It's not just going to be music. It's going to be positive events. Love that, bro. I'm going to start doing live that.
Starting point is 01:27:01 That is amazing. Love that, probably. Obviously, where I've got strong ties within the fashion world, possibly a brand, but that would be like later on. I'm not trying to run before I could walk, you know what I mean? But for now, it's just getting music out. I will catwalk your stuff. I promise.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Just don't go the wrong way because I'm not paying you otherwise. Amazing. But who would play you? What guy who would play you? What guy I'm not sure. I'm not quite like my own person. I don't know. I don't think there's anyone. I want to play me. Unique. I don't know. But I think. Sorry, can I just say that I said that first and now they're both saying the same question. They're both saying the same way. Nick Nevin and the trendsetter, ladies and gentlemen. Who would play you myself? And now they're both saying, yeah, I think I'd do. Good job myself. I also would love Jennifer Lawrence, please. Good luck with that, love. I mean, no.
Starting point is 01:27:52 It's my movie, Nick. Anyone can... That was a bit arched, sorry, love. No, Jennifer Lawrence. Well, she's a bit weird, didn't she? She's a bit, cookey, and a bit out there. I'm on the weird side of... On the weird list?
Starting point is 01:28:02 Yeah, so that would be it. Thank you, Simon from Hackney. Okay, someone says, who would win in a fight between Nick and Harambi from Dick? Well, unfortunately, Harambe's passed away. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:15 So I'm going to say me. I don't know. I think I'm still going to go for dead and ramby. That's a liberty. That's a liberty. Let's just have a moment, silence. Fuckerambi, man. No, no, no, no. Actually, no, that's a bit outboarder.
Starting point is 01:28:31 I didn't mean that. I just meant fuckerambi only because... No, no, I'm doing a 180. Only because, only because that you said that dead harambi would beat me in a fight. Okay, yeah, no, it's true. That's why I said fuckerambi. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:28:44 But don't actually fuck around because it's dead and you... Oh, too low. Oh, no. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fulbar Radio. What's up? What's up? It's Friday. And I'm just so...
Starting point is 01:29:00 It's Friday. I'm buzzing. It's so good to be Friday. Welcome to Backrow and Chill. It's Johanna James and I'm joined today this week again by my co-host. I'm back, motherfuckers. Ozzie Achilles. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:13 You did, you got it right this time. It's Achilles like the heel. Yes, like Achilles. Like Achilles. in front of it. Great, and I'm James with, you know, with a joke. Nice, nice. Hello.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Oh, Charlotte, hello. Hello, Charlotte. How are thou? Welcome to the show. Thank you. So we were prepping our listeners to say that you are known, you're known for fresh meat, but many other things as well. And at the moment, you're doing pantos. We're also talking about pantos and other people love it or hate it.
Starting point is 01:29:45 So, yeah, tell everybody a little bit about the panto that you're doing at the moment. So, we're doing a panto at the new diorama theatre, which is kind of near Houston, in London, North London, and it's a take on Dick Whittington, which is the story of the man who became Friis Mayor of London. Threis. I like that word. Threis.
Starting point is 01:30:07 And it was a true story. He did, it was a real man who became London mayor three times, too many times. And I played Dick Whittington, but we call him Ricky Whittington in this version and it's a sort of anti-panto. It's actually not a love song to pantomimes. It sort of sends up the pantomime.
Starting point is 01:30:29 So yeah, and it's kind of about a young person's experience of London moving to London from outside to London. Nice, a little bit more. And as Ricky Whittington, are you cross-dressing? Or are you playing? I guess I am. I mean, the thing is that I'm not... You're gender neutral. It's so PC. In fact, 1901, I am cross-dressing.
Starting point is 01:30:50 I'm wearing trousers. But it's now, as a normal girl may look. So, yeah, I am playing a man, yes. And there's a few references to that, but it's not kind of a necessary detail. But I am, I am. But it's not tight, like green types of boots. Yeah, okay. With a cropped haircut.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Are there songs and things? Yeah, it's essentially a kind of, it's essentially a kind of musical, a satirical musical. It's quite difficult to describe without sort of sounding pompous, but it's a clerical musical. And there's a lot of singing, and as it looks, it's pretty funny, but you never know. Until we get an audience in front of us, we won't know if it's funny. But to us, it's funny. And it's great. It's really well written, and the rest of the cast are so, so talented and so good.
Starting point is 01:31:38 So it should be, yeah, a good evening out. It's not for children. That's important to us. Oh, I see. Oh, great. that's amazing. And so it's in the, what was that theatre again
Starting point is 01:31:49 that you said? It was near Houston. The new diorama. New diorama. Yeah. It's just kind of near the hospital at Houston. In case it's so bad. Anyone else?
Starting point is 01:31:59 For someone who has like never seen any pantos before, would you recommend this one as a one to compare it to? Like a starter. A starter, a start a panto as you will, for me. Yeah. I think so.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I mean, I think it would be a shame because I feel it may ruin pantos for you in the future. So, if you have a desperate desire to see a pantomime don't see this one but I think I've only seen one pantomime and I know
Starting point is 01:32:24 like the other day I'd explain to my Australian housemate what all the like typical things that happen in the pantomime are and as I was describing it I was like how is it how is this a thing I just know about
Starting point is 01:32:36 and so he had no idea what I was talking about so I think it would be fun regardless of if you know the pantomime structure like it's a good show anyway just have a drink and roll with it Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:47 And it's like a small auditorium. It's like a really small theatre, small cast, and it's just like kind of, yeah, it's just really fun, basically. It's a good Christmas outing. That's amazing. Sounds like fun. And what are you doing outside of the Panto world at the moment? Are you doing, have you got anything planned for next year?
Starting point is 01:33:04 I don't. Next year is looking nicely open. Nice. Fresh. Yeah, fun employed. But I've got the new series of Call the Midwives is coming out on Christmas Day. Oh, a lot. I love that.
Starting point is 01:33:16 That's my... Tell people I'm doing, even though it's done. Have you seen it? I love Call the Midwife. It's like a family. I watch it. That's my favorite thing on Christmas Day to watch,
Starting point is 01:33:25 and it always gets me. Always gets me. It's siblings coming back. It's not. No. This is our cue to boo, the BBC. This is sad news for me. I actually really like that show.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Oh, thanks. Yeah, it's a, it's like a particular taste. Some people relate it. Some people love it. I love it. I think it's great. The characters are really really awful.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Awful in the best kind of way though. Yeah, yeah. Liberating. Do you get more recognised publicly for your character on Fresh Meat, siblings or Culver Midwife? Which one do you get most sort of taps on the shoulder for? It really varies. For some reason when I look really
Starting point is 01:34:03 hung over, or like ill, I get recognised for fresh meat. I don't really understand why and it's always embarrassing. But I did want to have a couple of nine-year-olds come to me and say it's you and I thought I can't believe the parents and let you watch fresh me and then I realized I realized it was called the midwife so it really varies actually um yeah depending on the age group you kind of got to wait for them to say what they know you from
Starting point is 01:34:29 yes I am that that idiot that lists everything I've ever come and then they realize they just know because I live next door and now you're going to have that panto you're going to have that panto you're going to be like you're the girl from that amazing pantom that's not a panto Exactly. Panto that put me off pantos for life. Oh, well, that's really cool. Well, thank you. Because I wish I was in a panther this year as well now. It's got me all, like, reminiscing about...
Starting point is 01:34:53 I really want to watch one now. We've talked about it so much. It's one of the daughter. Guys, one I've just told you about. No, everyone. So everyone, just to rehash again for our audience. Ricky Whittington and his cat, the new diorama theatre. And when does it start?
Starting point is 01:35:06 Are you already up, or is it... No, no, we're rehearsing at the moment. Oh, the best of fun. Yeah. Yeah, it is fun. Yeah, so we finish rehearses in about a week and a half, and then we start about the 12th of 13th of December. The lucky 13th of December.
Starting point is 01:35:21 And running into January. Yeah, until the 7th of January, and it's eight shows a week, so there's no... Oh, wow. You're going to be, like, trim for Christmas. Oh, sure. Oh, I'll be eating that turkey. Amazing. Amazing, make sure you do all your warm-ups.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Oh, thank you so much for chatting to us, Charlotte. Thanks, Charlotte. And all the best of luck. I actually really want to go check that out. I do want to see it. I'm going to see. Yeah, totally, man. We're going to go check you out.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Thank you. Well, not you out. The show out. I mean, what? Both. Thanks, Charlotte. Bye. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Bye. Bye. Oh, God. That was a Freudian slip in half, wasn't it? Oh, right. I'm not even lesbian. But, okay, she is beautiful. She's very beautiful.
Starting point is 01:36:03 She's really good in siblings as well. I love that show. That show is really, I like binging on old school Netflix shows. Old school Netflix shows. Okay. I'm going to go for another song. What am I going to go for? What is your choice?
Starting point is 01:36:14 I'm going to go for a Pete Townshend song from, it's called Let My Love Open the Door. It's in like 56 million different movies. I don't think I've heard of this one. Rom-coms? A lot of rom-coms. It's pretty much in every Adam Sandler film. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:36:30 I don't know this one then. I should know this song. Well, we're going to have a boogie to it now because it's like proper cheese, 80s, lovely, amazingness. Okay, it's back room and chill.

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