Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 19 - George Amponsah, Dionee Walker, Billy O'Brien, Maude Hirst, Camille Gatin, Brian Tyree Henry, Justin Kelly, Michael Landes, Jayde Adams.

Episode Date: January 9, 2017

George Amponsah and Dionee Walker were in the studio to talk about their new film The Hard Stop. Joining Jahannah on the phone was Billy O'Brien, the writer of I Am Not A Serial Killer. Maude Hirst, the star of hit TV show The Vikings, also popped in to the studio for a chat. Next up was Camille Gatin, the producer of the film The Girl With All The Gifts. Brian Tyree Henry, who stars in the FX series Atlanta, was on the phone to talking all about the series. Jahannah then spoke to Justin Kelly, the writer and director of King Cobra. The actor and producer Michael Landes came on the show to discuss his latest series, Hooten & The Ladies. Lastly, the hilarious Jayde Adams was in the studio promoting her show at the Soho Theatre.

This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Yes. It's a background too. It's Dehanna James. I am joined this week by Joe Tasker. Hello.

Right. We've got our third guest in the studio. Thank you so much for joining us. We're joined by Dionne Walker and George Aponza. Does I say that right? Yeah. Who were the writers and directors of a brand new documentary. called the hard stop.

So welcome. Good makers, so one director and the producer. Oh, I thought you wrote it, sorry. I've been, been, got my, you've been pran. I've been,

worst prank ever. Oh, so you produced and directed it. Okay. And could we let sort of our audience and listeners know a little bit about what it's about because obviously you guys are going to know you're going to sell it way better than. Okay, well, yeah, it's a, it's a,

It's about the man who was killed in 2011 by police, which sparked the UK riots, which as we know started in London, North London time. Mark Duggan. Spread across London and other cities of the UK. And that man was, as you said correctly, his name was Mark Duggan. And our film follows two of his childhood friends following Mark's death and following their lives, you know, as they deal with bereavement, imprisonment. unemployment and you know just a whole fallout from those events that affected so many people in 2011.

Yeah, that was crazy times. That was one of the only times I've ever felt actually scared in London as a Londoner living here. That night it had like a very frantic. I was very scared and for the first time. Because normally I felt like we have a system in place, police and army and things like that too. and I felt not on their side and I felt like the police weren't on the protecting and I just felt very vulnerable How close were you? Well, very close

so I was at the time working on an old carc film and we were filming in West London and I drove home through Peckham through Lewisham I lived in Lewisham so it was going on everywhere I went outside of my house down to Catford and there was people looting, smashing things

there was riot police fans but the police weren't doing anything so I just felt like if something kicked off, the police weren't then going to step in and it was all, kind of every man for itself, energy of that night, it was very, very terrifying. So what inspired you to like fully

produce this and... Well, in fact, when the riots kicked off, we were in Copenhagen at a Prince concert. And I think, so we arrived in London like two days late, the third day because the riots went on for over four days.

and it was all over the news and we instead of watching it via the news we should really just go out and see what was happening and I think I think it started there in a sense we felt it was quite important to have a look at where this was coming from in terms of why this is happening now yeah I mean you know we just I think it was

as Londoners, you know, we wanted to really find out something about the man himself, the humanity and, you know, the life that was lost because following the riots, I think that kind of got lost a little bit in the mix. And if you remember, the media, there was a lot of, you know, about all the damage that had been done to property and about various people who maybe ran into foot locker or somewhere to, you know, grab a pair of free trainers. And it's somewhat detracted from, you know, what actually happened. The loss of life. Yeah.

The loss of life and the man himself and this community in Tottenham, who have a history of these incidents involving, you know, deaths in police custody or following police contact, which actually goes back to 1985 and the original Broadwater Farm Riot, all of which is chronicled in our film, The Hard Stop. and I think it's very interesting that you guys sort of start the film onwards from where, yeah, where the media stopped basically because they were mainly concentrated on the riots. And as I was saying to Joe earlier, that I was in Channel 4 made a docu drama about the events of that night. But yeah, entirely focused on the rioting and the looting and whatnot.

And that was like the first second TV movie that I was in. but it was more the story of how the rioting affected people rather than the actual thing that sparked the riot. And I remember as well seeing in the media the photo that they used for Mark, they cropped it. And I remember seeing, only, did you see this? I think or not, you mean, yeah. So they cropped a photo and they sort of sold it in it

when actually if you move the photo, the uncropped version of the photo, he was next to a, was it a grave? Yeah, you're absolutely correct. You know, they cropped the photo And it was the image of Mark That went out in many, you know, media, you know, images following the rights. It was his main photo, wasn't it?

And it seemed to portray this look of, you know, a scowling sort of gangster type figure. Kind of roadman-y-type, yeah. In fact, when you see the whole uncropped picture, it's actually, he's actually holding a placard and it's in commemoration of his child, his daughter who died. Yeah.

than at age one and it says, you know, you know, to my daughter with love. And he's actually at a grave site. So of course he's solemn. And the image you're looking at is of a man in bereavement. Yeah, of course, yeah. And they've just cropped that to make him, well, in the media like that,

then you just want you make of it. And that was one of the first times that I ever totally saw how much that the media can spin something or literally just cropping a photo, the different, the context of it is so different. And it massively changed my mind. So I was very thankful for whoever it was, that put the uncropped photo around the internet.

So I think this documentary is going to be hugely eye-opening for people who may not know the whole story. This is an uncropped version of Mark Duggan. But very much sort of, you know, told through the story of his childhood friends who are very much a reflection of him, he grew up with him, and who, you know, as far as they were part of an extended family together. And was it hard to put together, or like, were Mark friends, did they really want to be part of it? Or was it quite hard to trap them down? What was that story?

You know, they really wanted to be part of it. But when we first began filming with them, obviously, they had every reason to be somewhat distrustful of the media for the reasons we've just been discussing, you know, because, you know, just the degree to which Mark was being misrepresented in the media, to the degree to which he was misrepresented from the very outset. Because if you remember, the first media report was that there was a shootout, that there was an actual exchange of gunfire on ferry road, which is actually ridiculous. And two days later, that was retracted. He never had a gun.

There was not, you know, and in fact, what? Transpiders, one police officer had accidentally shot another police officer who, but fortunately was saved by his own police radio. So I think that might have been part of the confusion. But the point was that the media said that Mark had opened fire on the police. Of course, even though you retract that two days later, it's all. gone out as a story and sort of lodged in people's minds. It's not like everyone that read that story is going to receive the retraction.

Yeah, but just to point out, the media, that was the information they received. So it didn't start with the media. Yeah, they didn't invent that. Yeah, exactly. It was received, I think, through the police IPCC. So in defense of the media a bit. Yeah, let's be, you know, fair enough. Not every person in the media is going to crop everything. everything and yeah like there are some very honest journalism like fibre radio is very good but um guardian so where is this um the documentary is it going to be

platform where is it platform where can people access this and see it right so it's actually came out on Netflix today oh okay and so yeah I mean you know that's good we're talking about Netflix yeah yeah and so and also we must mention we've been um nominated for best documents BIFA Awards and even standards. Oh, exciting. And so, yeah, that's quite something. I mean, I think it means that hopefully we'll get the message out to a wider public because it's not being shown on terrestrial television.

So this idea, let's hope it being on Netflix in the UK, we'll get the message out. That's a strong platform. And also, I think that this whole subject, it can translate. to our friends over in America because it's a big thing this year it's been about police brutality and unfairness and there's a lot of stuff going around the internet about that and it's really picking up a strong momentum

so I think that it's important like I think it would resonate with a lot of people in America if they got to have access to this documentary yeah I mean I think we always pitch the narrative as such where it's a local you know it's local it's Tottenham it's London but at the same same time it's a transnational story which which everyone which will resonate with people in America we've shown it in in Cairo in Egypt we've shown it in Amsterdam and we've shown it in

festivals in in America so it should resonate it's a it's a big message no it's really it's really cool and have you got any other now that this one is sort of wrapped in and on its way off around the internet have you got any other projects that you're looking to go forward with? Yes. Yeah. I saw Cheek smiles there. I was like, here we are.

Yes, we do. What are you on to you next? Well, I don't really want to say too much about it, but, you know, I'm looking at maybe doing something more sort of, you know, fictional, but very much sort of a documentary heart. So it's something that, you know, I guess, you know, springs off a real story or real situation. Mm-hmm.

But, you know, this time using, you know, a script and, and, and, I guess, you know, I guess, you know, act tools and that's all. You have two of the best in the room right now. But Noel isn't here? Joe Squared. Noll's off. Yeah, I think that's interesting to play on the... Well, a lot of...

I've seen a lot of things be mockumentary, but they don't have to be comedy, but mockumentary style and using that as a way of... There's a lot of people who do nothing, I think it's called, which is on Netflix as well. It's a fictional documentary

series. And I think that is, I really like that genre. It's such a cool style. It's like the office. Yeah, the office. It's kind of fictional documentary. Yeah.

But it doesn't have to, yeah, exactly, it doesn't have to be comedy. It could be anything you want, but it's, because it's a scripted fictional big, but it's in a documentary style. It adds, I don't know,

it's such a cool style. And it's a, it's a cost-effective way. Yeah. And it doesn't, it doesn't look odd. Well, actually, the internet's possibly the best format for that, actually. It's really, yeah, very, very good.

Oh, that's exciting. Okay, I can see there's like things in the work So is that looking next year You're going to be going full hog with that Cool You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark On Fubour Radio

We've got In the studio, we're not in the studio Actually, we've got you We are going to be talking to The writers of a new film called I Am Not a Serial killer Which is like a dark Dark comedy

Slash It's like a kind of all round weird New genre of Weird is good That's good Weird is good Are they on the line They're on the line

Brilliant We're going to try We're always at the mercy Of like technology At the moment I'm like Is it gonna work Are they gonna get cut off

Are they here With us or not So we'll just We'll just see in a moment But it's got some pretty cool cast Members actually It's got Christopher Lloyd Who plays the duck

In Back to the Future I thought you said duck That he plays the duck That famous duck Marty's your kids Marty Hello Are you with us

Hello Hiya Can you hear me We can, we can indeed. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. How's it going? So is this Christopher and Billy?

Yeah, this is Billy here. Oh, hi, Billy. Hi, hi, hi. So we were just trying to explain to the audience about what I am not a serial killer is about the movie. I'm sure you will do it way better. Well, I would have put a duck in it if you'd said it earlier. That's a great idea.

That is the 100 Bill of Dollar idea. That is. Pop a duck in it. There's a duck. Next film. Next movie. Absolutely. I am a serial killer. So how did it come up?

So you wrote, did you write the concept? No, it comes from a book, actually, an American book of the same name. So Chris and me adapted it and then I directed it. So, yeah, it was good fun. Oh, amazing. And how did it sort of, because I always find it fascinating, like the story behind how movie gets made, because it is never as easy as, you know, oh, let's just make a movie.

Yeah, I'll see in a few months, there it is on the screen. Yeah, it's always such a fight. Yeah, it's a testament. Oh, yeah, there's tons of fights. I mean, it seemed pretty easy at first because the book was amazing, and it, you know, Chris and me had great fun adapting it, and then it took another six years to get financed. So it's the usual independent film story. That's quite a long time. Yeah, which wasn't a lot of fun.

But worth it now? Worth it a bit? Yeah, you know, looking back at it definitely, I mean, God, if the film had turned out to be rubbish, then no, it wouldn't have been working. Well, yeah, that's not. But, yeah, no, we're really happy with it. And it was a great adventure. Like, we shot in Minnesota, and, like, the temperature was, like, minus 20 the whole time. That was really cool. Oh, that'd be fun.

Yeah. Frost bite. Well, it was nice not shooting in the rain for once, you know. Like doing a film in America is just something different about it. And that was just, yeah, it was brilliant. And, well, there's a big buzz going on about this film because it's already, it was in the BFI Festival. That's right.

Yeah, yeah. And South by Southwest Film Festival. So, and when is it, when are we able to see it? Right, it's coming out in, as they say, selected cinemas, next Friday. Okay. The 9th, I think, if my dates are right. So in the UK and in Ireland.

So I know it's on like, they're still confirming the date or the cinemas, but it's definitely on in the Picturehouse Central in London. And then there's a few around Ireland as well. And we should be finding out more, I think, on Monday. So it's not a massive release. We've got, there's a little film opening a few days later, something rogue, something or other.

I don't know what's a tiny film. Yeah. A little rogue one, maybe. So that's going to take a most of the cinema. I think. But yeah, we're delighted and it's getting great reviews and everything, so it's really good. So, story theme-wise, just to give a little people a little bit of an insight,

it's about a 17-year-old boy who, he's a bit obsessed, he's got a bit of a morbid curiosity about serial killers. Yeah. And he sort of discovers, is it by accident, he discovers potentially a real serial killer? Well, you see, his mum runs the town mortuary, so he's always in bombing bodies with his mum and his aunt, which is not the most healthy to take from to do.

and then he relies when the murder victors are delivered by the coroner into the thing, he's the first person to spot that this could be a serial killer at work so he's kind of like a teenage Sherlock Holmes who investigates it, you know.

Yeah, the other thing about him, though, is that he's clinically diagnosed as a sociopath, so he's afraid of becoming a serial killer one day himself anyway. And then this happens, which is both the most interesting thing that could happen to him and also one of the worst things,

because he finds it so engaging and enthralling. Yeah, I mean, I love psychology and... He's amazing. Anything to do with sort of why our brains work a certain way or don't work a certain way. I love the whole concept of just why we dream. Do you know what's going on in the rights? I don't understand. That's true. That's very true, yeah, yeah.

So this is... And the cast-wise, you guys really landed on your feet with the cast for this. It's got Max Records. Was he the boy from where the wild things are? That's him. He was Max and where the Wiresman's are, yeah. Yeah, no, he's, like, the film is on his shoulders because he's in every scene, and, you know, he's a real stamina job as much as anything,

but he's just brilliant in it, absolutely brilliant. He's kind of all grown up now, you know, as a 17-year-old. And then, of course, you mentioned the Duck earlier on. The Duck Brown. He was great, and he's kind of him playing against type as well, because he's, it's a very quiet performance. It's not the kind of more cartoon-y, like Adam's family. you know, which are brilliant,

but this is a really interesting side of Christopher Lloyd. He's really very different in this, you know. Oh, that's cool. I like a bit of variety. I'm a huge fan of Christopher Lloyd. Yeah. Yeah, love him, love him. He's a lovely man as well.

He was like, you know, we had him out in, like it's a low-budget film. We had him out of the snow in the middle of the night and everything in, you know, awful conditions. And he was, he didn't complain once. He was such a perfect gentleman. Yeah, absolutely, real pro, you know. I love hearing that, especially when big stars,

like, I hear that, like, Tom Hanks and people are like that, are just so down to work. I love that. I love the story. So, ooh, I like it even more now. And so, sort of, were you guys around for a lot of the production then? So you were sort of hands-on? Yeah, well, I directed it.

And then Chris came out to be on the shoot as well. So we gave Chris loads of jobs to do, which is brilliant for your tiny crew. Yeah, I mean, Chris, you can talk about it, but you arrived in the middle of us, really. Yeah, I came out for the last two weeks or so. And by then, the guys had really been at it for a while. I get to meet Chris Floyd on set because he was only, you know, they got his stuff out of the way first.

Oh, okay. But I met him, you know, at a post screenings and things. Yeah, it was great experience going out on the shoot because it was just so scrappy. Everyone was just really pitching in and just giving it their all and helping to make this thing come to life

after, you know, six, almost seven years now. So, long time. It was my first time on set. You know, it was cold. It was hard. but it was so rewarding being these things come to life. Sounds like a good vibe on set as well. It was, yeah.

And did anything sort of not go to plan? It's always my favourite thing to ask behind the scenes. Was there anything? Oh, everything didn't go to plan. Tell us them off. There was funny bits. We were mostly shooting up near the Canadian border in a small mining town, and then we had to do five days down in Minneapolis.

And we'd forgotten we had kind of a freedom of the town up there, the town mayor, everybody, you know, If we wanted to shut off roads, the mayor got the police out first. Then down in Minneapolis, you're back in a big city. And it started snowing on one day off, our day off. So we went out shooting without permits or anything just because, you know, we had Maxie staying the houses and we all just jumped in the van and went out. And we got pulled over by the police and asked if we'd permits and everything.

And it was a really dicey moment because we didn't have anything. And in the end, I kind of talked around saying, look, we're only doing some tests for a film that's going to be happening later and all this. We all got back in the van and we're all just driving off and everybody's really nervous. van when the same cop car one of those big SUVs pulls up behind us again flashes the lights pulls up and we're like what is it what is we're all doomed we're all doomed and we roll down the windows he goes turn on your lights will you oh my god god I mean we can try you don't so that was really scary but it was good fun yeah everyone's like thank you officer and breathe

out yeah yeah we'll go on our way nothing to see here yeah well that's it I mean especially like independent movies or I mean I've been part of many a production where the right permits haven't been come through or whatever so we've all had to sort of just guerrilla shoe, especially around central London, and if anyone questions what we're doing, everyone just runs in different directions. Exactly, but we see the problem here is we're all

English and Irish, like not even just in another country, but like in the middle of another country, you know, in the middle of Trump lands, basically, and, you know, it's all like, oh, go. Because we'd forgotten, in our little town where we were shooting, the locals were brilliant, you know, if we want this, like,

one of the big pickup trucks to have for a camera platform or anything, we'd just go to Flamers, the local bar and ask, you know, can we, go, your van, he chuck us the keys, and off we'd go, You know, they were really helpful. Which if you get in a big city, it's always a bit different. Yeah. City life versus country life.

Yeah. And so the film, because obviously it's got very dark themes, but is it quite darkly funny? Yes. That's what attracted us to the book. It has a kind of a black humor about it. And, you know, especially set in the snow in the Midwest, it just brought the Cone brothers to mind, you know. Their sort of sensibility. And I think both, like Chris, you can say it as well, obviously, but I think we both just, I love

the idea of scares and laughter and, you know, something dark but, but funny, so it's not just grim. You know, that's what's defraction, I think. Something super dark and depressing. Yeah, I like the idea of, I think everyone has got a morbid curiosity themselves. I think everyone does love a murder mystery and sort of a who, I love a who done it or all that kind of thing. You're one of those people that when you watch a film with them, you'll tell them who did it at the beginning. And it turns out like you're right every time. I might have been, yeah, I think it's that person there.

Yeah, and it always is, yeah. Told you. I told you. Yeah, my wife and her late mum were terrible for that. You'd be watching something on TV, and they both kind of go, mm-hmm, like this. And you'd be like, what are you saying? What's that noise? And you're like, oh, you know, who did it?

It's that guy there obviously. What are you talking about? Yeah, I saw it from the start. And so what's on the cards for you to next after the, I mean, obviously this has been a success. Have you got anything else up your sleeve or in the pipeline? Well, for me, it's just writing the next one, hopefully. Because that took so long to get made, I'm just writing three. different projects at the moment.

So they're hedging with F here a bit because I can't. I've got kids. I can't be gallivanting off, as my wife calls it, my expensive hobby. So I try to write something and hopefully make a living, you know. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Yeah, and same for me.

We've got the UK release coming up next week. So after that's finished, it is kind of the end of it for the release and everything. So mentally, I feel like it can move on to new projects and get new things off the ground. I mean, it is kind of, it's filmmaking is such an amazing. exhausting process and then you do kind of you make this a dream and then you achieve it and then it does end and then you're like and then we start again next one yeah they're they don't want it to take seven years yeah oh my goodness you know maybe you could do it again if you could do it again in a short of time periods and then you can yeah yeah

a friend of mine you always put it back in the old like blockbuster you know video shop days which is you do all this work and make a film and then on a Sunday afternoon somebody with a hangover wanders in puts their hand up for your film and then goes no I'll go for that one and that's what it all ends up. That's it. But no, I'm so excited to see this. I went to see a couple of things at the BFI, and I saw the kind of showcase on what was on,

and I'm a serial killer actually stood out to me just my personal preference of film. Oh, thank you. I'm really excited. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you very much. Because there's 150 posters going up in the tube. I think they're just up today,

and that's the first time in either of our careers if that's ever happened. So we've got real actual physical posters up around London, which is brilliant. That's so exciting. I love a good post. Posters and trailers, I get so excited. Yeah.

I love a good tube poster because you just see them everywhere and he sticks in mind. Yeah, that's what I'm thrilled about. Like, I'm going to get the camera out now and get some photographs. Get some selfies next to the post. Yeah. Awesome. All right, thanks so much, guys. Thanks for coming on.

Thanks, guys. Thanks very much. That's brilliant. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

I hope there's a sequel called Maybe I'm a serial killer. And then... All right, I am a killer. I definitely am a serial killer. I was a serial killer. You could go on forever. You could have like ultimate. There's a series and series of series of series.

That's brilliant. I'd watch them all. You're listening to the best of Joanna James and Noel Clark on Fuba Radio. Right, we've got our first guest on the show. Thank you so much. We've got Maud Hurst in the studio.

Thank you for joining us. Oh, I've got to put your mic up. There we go. Hello, I'm here. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you guys? Very good. I'm good.

It's marvellous. I love doing a show on a Friday afternoon because you're just pumped. You actually are. The weekend is about to begin. And it's nearly Christmas. It's nearly Christmas. December Fridays are the best Fridays. Yeah, they are. Out of all my Fridays.

Advent. Advent Fridays. Right, so, Maud, for all our listeners, just to explain who you are and what you do, you're an actress and you are on the Vikings. I am. The TV show, which is quite exciting. I love that time period in history, so that's my favourite. I should have listened more in history, but I do actually

like the Viking era. My brain was all overplace in school. What we read in the history books is really quite different from the show. So even if you had read up on it, you know, you can still learn something else by watching it. Thank you very much. And how did you get involved with the Vikings? How did you get? So it's been like, oh God, like four and a half years, I think since I auditioned. And I just been travelling around Thailand and I came back to London terrified that I wasn't working. And I was like, ah. And my agent was like, got this really cool show, do you want to audition? I was like, sure, great. So I went in, met the director and it was a really last minute casting. And I think

within like three or four weeks I was told and then flew to Ireland and started filming. It is scary that act as fear, I call it, and you don't know what, like, after university for me, I just want to go and act, and you get this fear where you just don't know, audition-wise or work-wise. Yeah, that's what. I hate it. The first time you get to set, normally the first thing people say, hi, so what you do next? And you're like, I'm just really excited about this job, actually.

You're just like you focus your mind on the day. Oh, you know. Day to day. That's true. And, well, okay, I've got something to admit. I've never been on a, oh, actually, no, I'm lying. I have been on a Viking-themed TV show. But when I was a teenager, I used to do something really, really, really geeky, and I used to do medieval reenactment.

Did you now? It's like, oh, you're weird. Don't not for me, Joe. I was laughing at a joke I've written down for later. Okay, it's like... How about you? I've been medieval. No, honestly, I used to be such a geek.

I used to spend a majority of my weekends going all over the country, and we'd put on this show. You know, you go to castles or historical fairs or whatever. I didn't know this existed. Yes. And you do, like, so, like, for example,

in Nottingham every year, they've got the Robin Hood Festival, and then hundreds and hundreds of mediation, medieval reenactors go. I have heard of these. And I played Maid Marian in the... Oh, well done. Congratulations. It was the role of my career.

But we did... But my medieval... They specialised in Viking up to Robin Hood. So I spent most of my teenage years running around being a fair maiden. You're a fellow Viking. Fellow Viking. Hey. Do we were a fighter?

I was. Yeah. I learned to use a Broadthor. I wish I was. Helga was not. She's a lover, not a fighter. Oh, they don't know. They don't fight. I don't fight. I don't fight. I don't fight.

horseback. No, missed all the fun things, but I didn't get muddy. But Viking women were actually quite independent if you look at women in history as opposed to, yeah, so in the last sort of thousand years or whatever, they had this, like, they could,

you could divorce the men, which was like a power to a Viking woman, she could go, like if your Viking man got home and drunk and was like, whatever, you could be like, that's it, I divorce you, fuck it. My Viking man is home. Yeah, they were It was really progressive, wasn't they? It was. Yeah, it was crazy.

And I think it regressed a lot in different other parts of history. But Vikings, yeah, the women were fierce. And some of them were actual warriors. The pagan, yeah. The pagan women were like, and they had these huge ladles. It was like completely legal to beat your husband up with a ladle. With a ladle? Yeah, with a big iron ladle. Yeah, you could say, you didn't want to be late. You didn't want to piss off your woman. You didn't want to be late in the ladled.

We should have reacted that today. We should have done it for enactment. We should have done that. We should have. So what was your favourite part about playing your character in the Vikings? I think working with Gustav, who plays Flokey, my husband in the show, he's amazing. And so it was kind of like a mastercast every day being on set. He's acted since he was about five. So his whole life has been immersed.

And he said that was brilliant. But also just being on the sets, it was so epic in the middle of Wicklow Mountains and Ireland. Yeah, that must be so cool. It was amazing. And on my wedding day, I think it's probably my favourite scene that I filmed, but they hadn't told us how we were going to get married. And we turned up in this lake and they'd built a boat of flowers. and they were like, so you're just going to enter on in this?

I was like, wow. That's beautiful. It's great, but it kind of stuffs up your real life wedding because you're like, I never got the boat and the flowers. Never going to beat that. It looked really pretty on TV. Yeah. That's super cool.

And so do you get, because obviously your face has been out and about, because you were in the Tudors as well, weren't you? I love that TV show. Anything historical with the corset and a bit of sex, I'm like, I'm in there. I've got your sard and you're ready to watch. I'm ready at home, just ready. And then, so your face has been out and about quite a lot. Do you get recognised around?

I look really different to Helga. They completely got rid of my eyebrows, and so it changes your face a lot. Why did they take your eyebrows off? That was a weird. I think they were kind of going, Scandinavian. It's a liking thing. Yeah, they wanted to give it like a look,

the show to kind of have a different feel and to kind of make it. Dark eyebrows are in right now, so they wanted to make it completely different, I guess. But it's not a good look, and I really would never try it. Eyebrownless. Yeah. It's not good.

Yeah, you look like an weird, like an egg, wouldn't you? Literally like an egg, yeah. One of my friends is like, you look like an alien. I can't see if you're angry. Happy. But a sexy alien, you're a sexy alien. Thanks, thank you. But so, yeah, in a group, when we know all the Vikings are together,

we do get it. But very rarely in London, do I get it? Which is a nice thing, actually. Yeah, you can go incognito to wherever you want to go. I know, junk and nights out, I'm good. Nobody knows. Until someone covers your eyebrows up, it's you. There you are.

And what was your favourite? did you have like a favorite kind of because I love hearing about behind the scenes and background to access all areas stuff so what is your sort of favorite thing that happened behind the scenes? Travis who plays the lead guy Ragnar he is like a complete joker all the time

he doesn't, he's always misbehaving and one day one of the other actors used to drive himself to set every day and he parked his car and Travis just went missing for ages no one knew where he was and eventually at the end of the day we realized what he had done we've got open Bob's car and about 50 chickens just jumped out and he like filled

yeah his whole car was just covered in chicken poo and he just filled this whole car yeah that was travis now that's a that's a different level you know it just sometimes he reads someone else's lines I'm a bit of a laugh no he fills a car with chicken and chicken poo yeah that's a that's like a pretty medieval

joke isn't it it's like I'll get ye chickens put you chickens in you car and it's also educational there you go lovely prank me again thanks yeah wow does anything ever go wrong like I love it as well with like bluepers and yeah for me the thing that always goes wrong is I get the giggles I can't

and once you go and you really can't go in a death scene well that's the other thing yeah somebody one of the other actors that died everyone was really emotional on the day that they died and he was supposed to be dead and he couldn't stop crying he was like actually weeping while he was set I was like you can't

yeah you can't cry while you're a court so it's not desirable that but yeah lots of things go wrong because it's so huge in the battle sequences there was normally like three or four hundred extras So things are definitely going to go wrong when people are flying around with weapons and stuff there's lots of injuries and people falling off horses.

Yeah. Medic! Yeah. Some of the extras have probably been medics just ready, close, ready to go. Medics slash extra. They're just like multifunctional. With no eyebrows. It's a Viking thing.

I have been tempted to bleach my... Don't. What were you just about to say? I've been tempted to bleach my eyebrows, I have. Because I saw that dragon tattoo film. The girl with the dragon tattoo. Oh, yeah. And Rooney Mara had no eyebrows

And I was like, she's the sexiest thing ever But then I realised that I would not look like Runei Mara I just don't recommend doing it It's just not good It's not good for the ego So did you have to dye them back again? Yes, straight away

In fact, even sometimes after the end of the day I just say to my makeup artist Like please just draw them on for tonight Can't go home to the mirror Can't do it I just want to sleep in my own eyebrows I can stand when girls dye their hair But die in your eyebrows

Is that the same? Some people die their pubs Okay dokey, anyway, back to the backroids They do. Do they fall off? They die everything. No. And they grow really quickly.

Who knew? Really? Yeah, eyebrows grow like my... Oh, like, my boobs. I'm not talking about pubs anymore. I was like, my poops do go really quickly, yeah. TMI. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubour Radio.

Welcome back. Clarkian James. Yeah, dude. Right, we sound like we could rob a bank. Come on. Clarkian James. No, we sound like Sharky and George. Do you remember that cartoon, Sharky and George?

No. Before your time was it Before I was born Well we've got our first guest In the studio Welcome to Camille Gattin Who is the... Camille Gattin Who is the producer

On the movie The Girl with All the Gifts Fantastic Which we did review a couple months back Because I went to see I went to see the screening that was in Lester Square I had a shock on my life Because normally you go to like

Press screenings or whatnot And I was sitting on the front row And then suddenly Like Gemma Artis came out and then Glenn Close and I was just like my mouth just dropped like my god they're only people you know I know

but you really look up to like Glenn Close and people but I'm looking at them Glenn Close is wonderful yeah so I was just like I wasn't prepared that's all right I don't fang girl over many people but I was just like had a shock yeah she's devil wears pride of me fucking quality yeah I know that's Marrival Street I'm all confused now

I wasn't going to correct you but Glenn Close is Crewella DeVille Yeah she's also the man pirate that goes in the boo boo boo boo box in hook with beard. Right, okay. You're getting a bit obscure. Let's get to you.

Welcome, welcome, the girl with all the gifts. So for anyone who doesn't know what that film is or hasn't yet had the chance to see it, do you want to give us a brief? Yeah, I'm not going to say too much because I think if you've not seen it, it's better to go in cold and not have any expectations.

It's just a messed up school with little kids who live in prison cells and every morning soldiers come and at gunpoint make them sit in wheelchairs and their strap really. securely and rolled into class they're in a bunker and the kids don't seem to have a problem with that. Gemma Arderton is their teacher and they

love her and they love going to class but they're just treated like little monsters and it's set in dystopian future which is my favourite genre of film I love it so messed up or as we know it the West Midlands in two years time

so I have a question for you because I recently sat with some amazing publishers and they gave me the book of the film. I said, we should read this. It's wonderful in the films out. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. So tell me how that all happened. I'm understanding that actually there was a film before there was a book.

There was. So Mike Harry's been writing Sandman, Lucifer, X-Men, like for 30 years. He's an amazing comic book writer. So I met with him for a general meeting. And at the end of the meeting, it was, I've just written this short story. Do you mind taking a look? and it's the first five minutes of our film. Amazing.

And I knew Colin McCarthy, the director, really wanted to do a whole film in derelict location. He's got this obsession with dereliction porn, as we like to call it. So have I. So I sent him the short story. I was like, look, I think we can do something with this. So the three of us storyline, the film together, and Mike wrote the script,

and we had a bit of a break at some point, and Mike was like, oh, I've just written a novel based on the script. So Colin and I've never read the book. Do you guys own the book, then? Well, I got, I had to have the rights for the film, but I was like, I've never signed an option for a book before that I've never read. Right, right. And obviously the book came out early before the film, but we got really lucky. Just Whedon was in the UK doing Age of Ultron, and he's a massive Mike Carey comic book fan.

So he actually bought the book. Because, as you know, Josh Whedon would have nothing better to do than go to Waterstones during prep on Age of Ultron. And read a whole book. And read a whole book. And then tweet about it. And he tweeted about it with the cover of the book. going this is the best thing I've read in ages. And that helped with financing.

I'm sure it did. That's amazing. That's amazing. So tell me about the process of working with children. They always say don't work. You have to pretend right now that I'm not the movie director and actor and blah, blah, blah, and I'm just a radio host. Avoid animals. Yes.

Avoid children. You had that. We had that. Avoid asbestos. We had that. Yeah. I think you should actually avoid asbestos, though. That's one that can seriously.

damage your health. Where's the other two just can be annoyances? Look, our main character is a 10 year old girl and she's in every scene. Yeah, she isn't every single, you follow everything through her. What was the casting process? We saw 3,000 tapes. We met 500 girls and it sounds nuts, but she's the very last girl we met. The very, very last one. And I wasn't with Colom, she's from Nottingham from the TB Workshop. And I was down in London, closing financing. We were doing care. Chemistry reads with Gemma and five other girls on the Monday.

And it's Friday afternoon at five and columns going via Nottingham because you're like, just want to make sure we don't leave any stone onto it. And I remember him calling me and going, there's one more. And she came in on the Monday to read with Gem and he was like, yeah, it's her. Wow. That's amazing. Sometimes the way isn't it, that it's the last one that you meet. Or sometimes the very first one.

Well, interestingly, the first one, the very first one we met was the other amazing one. Yeah, wow. Like a bookend. A bookend of girls. And was there any... Was it quite an open casting? Did you see... Or was she always going to be...

It was a bit unusual in that. Basically, and nor will understand that, is when you put a casting call out, especially for kids, you get the upper middle class girls first from the really motivated, momager-driven schools. Yes.

And that's fine. but that's not at all the vibe we were going for. So we actually had a scout that went around the UK and met a lot of normal girls from normal schools. And that was really important to us because obviously this is a dystopian world where there is no class. You know, there's just a few human beings left around

and so there isn't like posh or not posh. These kids, I'm not going to give any spoilers, but these kids have not been raised by normal grown-ups in a normal society. Yeah. So they had to be sort of, blank canvases and they just had to be emotionally really raw. So what you're saying

which is a good thing as well is that actually it was it was a non-specific in terms of in terms of race or class or anything like that which is great to know and hopefully like you listeners out there that kind of are wanting to be actors you know it does happen a lot more now that

roles are non-specific it's really important and we made an effort with that we asked my carry to remove any description of age or colour for all of the characters yeah so that that for our casting director, it was completely open. So there's only eight characters, but half my cast is female

and half my cast is black. And that was a conscious decision by Column and myself when he started the process. Yeah, awesome. The cast as a whole were really, really good. But the little girl absolutely kind of totally carried the film. She's amazing. She's really good.

Yeah, again, I don't want to give too much away because the twist comes quite quickly in the movie. I can see why the opening. would have been a short in itself and how it's like extended to, you know, that's, yeah. So you're not waiting until the very, very end to get any kind of huge, huge, huge twists.

And when are you released on Home Entertainment? 18th of January. Boom. Oh, just after Crombo. Just after Christmas. So when you're out in your sales, guys, the girl with all the gifts will be out. Make sure you all grab it.

And one thing that I really love, because a dystopian future, sometimes they can go really CGI and CGI just doesn't really cut the muscle for me I find that it like when you're when whole things are CGI

it just ruins it and I remember I was doing some like research on this film when I was going to talk about it and like you said about the real locations that were abandoned so all of it was it felt so real so it was in the future but it was like real hospitals that were abandoned real shops real

real location so Dudley Stoke-on-Trent Oh my glam Canuck Chase and Chernobyl. We went to Chernobyl. Did you actually go? Yeah. To a, I guess, near area.

No, in Pripyat. So the actual city next to the, which was completely abandoned, we needed it to look completely overgrown and derelict. So we went there with a drone. And so all the big London cityscapes, obviously we added all the St. Paul's and, you know, London skyline. But everything is totally real and it's all Chernobyl. And I guess you were, I guess, near the radiation then. So you get a little Geiger thing. around you're there and then when he goes, you know you're too near. And let me understand.

So you were nominated and won. Yay. And won a British independent film award. The first of its kind. They recognise that being a first time film producer is hard. Yes. So it was a new category this year. It's called Breakthrough Producers.

Well done. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. That's great stuff. And was that an exciting night for you? Well, you get free champagne if you win. So I got pissed with Jennifer Saunders, which was sort of really fun.

Were you tapping her up for the next movie, potentially? No, I was just getting drunk with that. Just getting drunk with her. And where have you put your little statue? Where have you put your little award? Like up on the shelf. Yeah, that's what I do. It's just on the shelf.

And how did you get Glenn Close involved? Because I get asked that a lot. Yeah. How did we get Glenn Close? How did you get the cost? We asked. We just sent it to her. And it's just serendipity always.

and she'd literally had a chat with her agent two days before that, going, I really want to do something different. I always get offered, like, the angry ex-wife or the cruel grandmother. I just want to do something different. And he called her and he was like, look, I just got this British indie zombie film. Yeah. And she read it and she loved it. Great.

And she just got on Skype with our director within 48 hours, and she just said yes on the spot. Yeah, fantastic. Sometimes it happens, man. I think that, and that's the key, you know, people don't always ask because they think, like, the Americans are unobtainable. and actually they're not and a lot of them are wanting to do different things

so Glenn wanted to come to Stoke on Trent badly who doesn't want to go to Stoke-on-Trent no I want to go now should we just go now let's all right go now all right off air okay so what's next for you

you got anything you can speak about yeah Mike Carey the writer this time we've read the book his next book Falcide which came out in April I think where it's a ghost story set in a women's prison Fantastic. So we're doing that as a trio again, Colin, Mike and myself.

Fantastic. So I'm expecting a role in that one. I know it's a ghost story in a women's prison, but I'm pretty diverse. I can play a woman. You wear a corset, it's fine. The ghost is a 10-year-old boy. I'm sure we can see GRI you somehow. I can do that too.

Don't worry about that. And is that a period piece or is that a modern piece? No, it's a modern piece. Fantastic. I'm assuming the ghosts might be a bit periody. If he's young, if he's 10, he might have died 100 years ago. Let's not give it away. regardless.

Well, that sounds brilliant. That sounds brilliant. You're listening to the best of of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fulbar Radio. Right, we've got our next guest on the line, so thank you so much, Hayden. Thanks, Hayden, take care of us.

So our next guest who's waiting on the line, we'll hope that it all... All the way from America. From America, it's Brian Tyree Henry, who plays Paperboy on the new FX show Atlanta. So let's see if this works through. Brian, are you there? I am.

Can you hear me? Oh, I can. Perfectly. How you doing, sir? Welcome to the show. Thank you so much. I'm doing all right. Thank you.

Thank you, thank you guys for having me. Thank you. No problem at all. So, yeah, we were just telling to all the listeners that you play Paperboy on the new show, Atlanta. Because we're on episode three over here in England.

Oh, good, man. You guys got a lot to catch up on. Yeah, we can't wait. We can't wait. That's good. That's great. How are you liking it so far? Yeah, loving it. I'm loving it. Like, I'm loving it. Like, I, for me, sitting down watching a show, you know, you didn't really know what to expect. Because obviously, I mean, I don't know if you know, I create as well when I write and I direct and make movies and stuff like that. And, you know, it's always, when someone's doing it abroad that you admire, you kind of want, you know, I hope this is going to be good. I hope this is going to be good. And it's so good. And you guys are doing such a great job. How is it being received over, over in America?

Unlike anything I've ever seen before, honestly, I mean, the fans and people, they want this, you know, they really craved it, and we're happy that everyone has received it. Yeah, yeah. And for anyone who hasn't picked up on the show yet over here, just to explain, if you could explain a little bit about your character, Paperboy, who's one of the rappers? Yeah, well, Paperboy, those that's really known as Alfred, and I play The Cousins to Earn, who is played by Donald Glover. and my cousin is a little down and out. He drops out of college and moves back to Atlanta where we're from, and he hears that I'm an underground rap station, and decides he wants to become my manager,

and hilarity and all kinds of craziness ensue with us trying to get fame, notoriety, and paper, you know? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's just about us. I'm trying to make it. So the track, the main track, is that one of, because obviously Donald is also the rapper himself, Childish Gambino, Was that track one of his tracks, or was that specifically made for the show by you and Donald?

That track was specifically made for the show. And actually, that's not me rapping in the song. That's his brother, Stephen Glover, who's rap. I'm trying to be as cool as them. I take it until I make it. So, yeah, but they produced it and arranged it and everything. Came out kind of fire, I think. That was great.

So, listen, speaking of trying to be as cool as Mr. Glover. So I have a love-hate relationship with Donald Glover. I have a love-hate relationship. Oh, no. So, well, I've never met... No, nothing. I've never met Donald, and he's a... I consider him a genius.

I consider him a genius. So my love-hate relationship is this. You know, I act and I write and I direct, and I make movies and stuff like that. So when I, my love with Donald is, when I see him doing this stuff as well, I go, this guy is brilliant, and I like, I love Donald Glover and everything.

And then I go in for auditions and stuff like that. And then two months later, I see the job's gone to Donald. I'm like this motherfucker if I ever see this guy if I ever see this guy I'm gonna ring his neck and then I come home and Atlanta's on I'm like this show so great and then I go for another audition he get what is it like working with the genius that is Donald Glover essentially is the question I was like that that okay I can go into that uh he's great man like he's like instantly when I when I audition for it he was in the room and it was like sitting next to a buddy that I've known for years you know what I mean we played and we ad-lifts and we joked

around and it was just instant, man. And he is a genius. I think that's the best word to describe them. He's really, really aware of what's going on in the world and how to relate to people in the world. He's done really well assembling this team of just coming together and telling this story of these people in the town. And he's just great, man.

He's really like a brother to me. I really love him. I hope that that's a big follower lover. No, man. It's all love, man. I genuinely think. think he's amazing because, you know, over here, like I said, I do the same sort of thing, so, you know, I get it and I see how Hardy's working and stuff.

It's just I want to get some of them damn roles, too. That's all I'm saying, you know? Hey, man, we got a second season, man. That's going for everybody. He's got a second season, you know? Yeah, great, great. And Brian, how did you get involved with the show initially? Were you just, was it like full audition process or?

Well, it started because I blived everyone in the city. If I know it's not. I, I, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, uh, I, uh, I, uh, You know, my manager saw the project called Atlanta. I went to college in Atlanta and went out of college. And she was like, you know, I really feel like this show is something that will be here to you. And I opened it and I read the first five pages. And I saw Alfred and I was like, done, this is it.

Yeah, got to be it. Like, I got to do this. So, you know, it kind of just came to me. And I went for it, man. I was like, if I'm going to be in a show called Atlanta with Donald Love, but I got to kick his ass. Yeah. And I'm glad it worked out that way.

No, it was awesome. And you, so you originated also. You were the general, right, in the Book of Mormon, like when it first started, right? General, General butt fucking naked, man. Oh, my God, I've seen that show four times. This is the original, this is the original day. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, amazing.

Amazing. I love that role. It's a bit of a, that's a scene stealing role to have. I don't think anyone. I never saw you in it, but I'm sure nobody does it as good as you, bro. I'm sure. Oh, come on you guys, man. Who's on the table?

man I love me thank you that means a lot thanks a lot that was a great time for me to work for Trey Parker

and Matt Stone was like destiny fulfilled I watched out parks I was like in the ninth grade yeah

and I and to be in the room with these two guys who were so smart and so funny and so political and so

their geniuses they are yeah their geniuses as well I think you know you are but maybe genius

inspires genius you know so you must be you must be kind of genius as well for these guys to be gravitating towards you and vice versa

because that's kind of how the world works, energies and stuff, you know? So, you know, you're obviously doing the right thing. I'm in love with you guys. I'm in love with you guys right now. Like, this love affair is amazing. Yeah, man, I'm going to give you a little tweet later. I'm going to tweet you later on and say, what's up? And just...

Do it, man. I will. Just to close, Brian. What have you got in the future? Obviously, a second series coming up. Are there any other projects? Anything that you want to shout out or excited about? Yeah, change in the world.

That's what I'm trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I really want to focus on changing the world. We've got a lot going on and a lot to think about and a lot of things that we have to do to bring each other together. So I'm going to go out there and I'm going to change this damn world one percent at the time. Yeah, just quickly. I think shows, how relevant do you think shows like at Land's Rar in, you know, in the current state that the America's in with your new president and stuff like that?

It's so necessary. It's so necessary. You know, when we started the show, we didn't want to feel like the show was important. we don't want to make the show on this pedestal and hold it up to this thing to say that we're speaking this, we're trying to say this thing, we're trying to preach this thing, we just wanted to tell the stories of these people,

but then, and in itself, the self-came a thing, it became important. We all needed to hear these stories, and we all need to see different sides of life, and I think that Atlanta does that. And we're not going to stop, man. No, don't, man, because we're loving it. We're loving it.

We're loving it in the UK, brother. Good, good. We got you. Thank you so much. We might be shooting a movie in Atlanta in February, so I'm going to come check you. Well, you better call me, dude. No, we'll, bro. I'm going to Insta you or tweet you later on, and then I'm going to hit you up before coming, but I think we are.

I think a bromance is started over the phone. Oh, man. In fact, we might be doing a record in a few weeks. I might holly you then. Hey, man, I may get your name tattoo on my neck. I'm bad in love with you. Oh, thanks, brother. Get on Twitter. Get on Twitter.

All right. I know, I'm going to try, I'm going to try. All right, I'll insta you or something. All right, brother. Well, thank you so much, Brian. Thank you. And make sure everyone... All right, you guys.

Atlanta continues on Saturday nights from 10pm on Fox UK. Thank you very much, Brian. We love Brian. Thanks, man. Page, boy. All right. Bye. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubour Radio. Hi, guys.

Johanna James, Fulbar Radio. I'm here with Justin Kelly. Hello, how are you? And we're here to talk about, mainly, your brand new film. King Cobra. Yes. Premier last night and we have one more screening today. Amazing.

And I think it's the last one. So if people missed it, then they'll have to wait until it comes out. Yeah. And it comes out, end of October? Yeah, October 21st in, you know, in theater, in select theaters, in VOD, et cetera, in the states.

And I don't know our exact release date for Europe yet. Oh, okay. It'll be soon. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And so people who people don't know what King Cobra is about. It's based on a true story. I'll let you.

Yes. It's based on a very wild. a true story about a young aspiring gay porn star who becomes so popular and in demand that a producer of his is murdered over his contract. And that was totally true. Totally true. Did you just hear about that story and think, oh my God, I need to make a movie or was it, what was the process in? I read about it and I just, it's such a, such a crazy story that, of course, you know, your first thought is how did this happen and why? And the more I read about it and learned about the characters, the more fascinating the entire story became.

And I just felt like it would make a really interesting, unique, cool movie. And, you know, there aren't a lot of movies out there about gay porn. So I figured. No, there isn't. Not like mainstream. Why not give it a go? Yeah. And I think maybe, even though it wasn't porn, but I think like Magic Mike and films like that have kind of opened up maybe more of that sex industry into being in mainstream film, which is good.

Well, it's great for everybody. Sex sells, right? Yeah. And you've got some fabulous. people who are cast in the movie, like Molly Ringwald has come out of, come back, she's going back, which is, it was an odd choice for her, I think, like, considering her, like, bubblegum history for her role. So I was really excited to see Molly. And James Franco, you've got Garrett, it was Garrett Clayton, who plays your lead. He's a lead. He comes from a Disney

channel past. And so, you know, it's his wild, a crossover grown-up role. Yeah. And he's absolutely gorgeous as well. And was he, he, Is he gay straight or was he playing or? I mean, I don't know. Okay. He's playing gay. Okay. And he kind of just, just, I was like trying to find someone who had that sort of split

appeal of being able to have the kind of young boyish sort of look. But at the same time, be able to pull off that kind of confident porn star vibe. Yeah, because I saw the, if you want to check out the trailers, guys, I went on to Google and you can find the trailer for King Cobra. and the little snippets that I got to see was super realistic. I really felt like it was this boy, young guy, you know, being asked to take off his clothes for his first ever porn and very, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays a super seemingly kind of naive kid from San Diego

who's trying to make something of his life and get out of his mother's apartment and make some money and does it by going to some guy's basement in Pennsylvania and making porn. And is it set modern day or is it because it was a true story? Is it set back in the time of? Yeah, it's period, but you know, pretty recent period. It was early to mid-2000s. Okay.

You know, so not that long ago, but it was long enough ago to where we still had to be particular with costumes and set dressing and, you know, old websites and computers and cameras. And it was really fun for me because, you know, early 2000s are fun. You get to go back. Yeah, it's like Metro. Becky jeans and. Oh, yeah, all of the, what was the early digital cam, quarters. Yeah, like flip phones and things like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Garrett's character

has a flip phone for sure. Amazing. Yeah, so it's like long enough to where, you know, we did pay attention to that, but it made it really fun actually to make. And there's a, because even the porn industry has changed in the last 10 years then, because so much is just all about like internet, internet, internet, but back in the day, there was a lot of money in porn movies. So I can understand maybe the murder, like the reason for murder and it's a big business. Yeah, I mean, a big part of the story, you know, it's to the Joe and Harlow played by Joe is a James Franco, Harlow is Keegan Allen, and they are these two wild, you know, they start off as kind of gay escorts. So that's the company they run and they move into porn to make more money

and become obsessed with Brent Corrigan, Gary Clayton's character. And it was all true. They really thought, they made a lot of money, but then they fell into really heavy debt, you know, so American. Yeah. And they've really believed that making a video with this star Brent Corgan would make them millions. They truly, they became obsessed with it to the point to where it led to a murder, because the only way to kind of get Brent free from this contract was to off the producer who sort of like held the contract, which is crazy. To even think that you would do that in the first place, let alone get away with it.

You know, I mean, yeah. And casting-wise, did you approach people for roles or did you have lots of auditions? How was like the pretend porn audition? Well, James Frinko was attached before I wrote this script because he's a producer on it. And he really, you know, without him, the film never would have happened. He was the same with my first film. I am Michael. He was very like instrumental in getting it off the ground and helping, you know, get it made and finance and everything.

And yeah, so he was attached from day one and, of course, had helped get other people involved. And the next was the Stephen character. And I knew that James worked with Christian Slater on this film called Adder. All Diaries. Oh, yeah. And I just was, I'm such a Slater fan. I grew up with Heather's in true romance. And he's just so fucking cool.

Oh, wait, I can cuss. Yeah, you can swear. He's fun. He's so cool. And, but, you know, he had, he's never played gay and it's a pretty wild role for first time gay character. Yeah. You know, he's a gay pornographer into very young boys.

So I was, I didn't know if he'd be interested at all. But he read the script and we had dinner and talked about it. And he signed on really quickly. Not that he was so excited in that sense, I think just thought, you know, I can only imagine the scripts that these actors get plenty of great scripts, but this one, it did stand out because it's a really wild story. And I think he just got excited at the idea of doing something different. And so this is, is this your second sort of major feature?

And how did you go, right, I want to direct? Did you want to act before? Oh, sort of always wanted, in my whole life. I've always wanted to be a filmmaker. Okay. Yeah, I was going to direct. Yeah, I don't know why. I just went to movies with my dad all the time.

And it's just been my obsession. And so I wanted to fight to the death to become a director. And it's, you're doing it. Long road to get here, but it paid off and it was worth it. And so what's next? What would be your, now that you've done two substantial films, what would be the next project? It's kind of, I actually already shot my third film, which is nuts. Okay.

Yeah, it was really good. We shot Cobra, actually, we shot Cobra exactly a year ago. Wow. Quick turnaround. It was a very quick turnaround. From script to the entire process was so fast. It almost feels I'm very lucky. And then this past summer, so you know,

Cobra was completely done post-wise. We premiered at Tribeca in April. And then because of the response from the festival, I was able to get a third film off the ground that we shot that summer. So just a couple months ago. And it's a complete departure. It's kind of a family drama. It's not gay.

It's not a true story. Okay. I wanted to, you know, mix it up. Yeah, because people might be, a little bit like, oh, okay, so you do the gay true stories and be like, no, no, boom. I don't want to be put in a corner. Try this. Yeah.

Try a family drama with a weird supernatural kind of backstory. It's great. Amazing. And what would be the future, future goals then? Where would you like to sort of, what would be the real I've made at moment? Good question. I mean, I'm always kind of drawn towards sort of scandalous or controversial or, you know, weird stories.

But I definitely want to, you know, to make one that would be a bit more accessible like a bit more mainstream, which, you know, I feel like is on the horizon. So, yeah, there's not a particular story or genre or anything. Just, you know, if I can continue to make cool stories that are unique and different, but that are also, you know, accessible, which oddly enough, this one I think will be, even though it's about gay porn. But just it's a bit, you know, it's a really entertaining movie and funny at times in a way you wouldn't expect. So, yeah, I don't know, just keep making.

Cool. Well, thank you. All the best of luck. Yes, you're absolutely killing it right now. So just keep running. I'm going to keep running. Great. Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you. Thank you. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark on Feebar Radio. Hey, guys. I'm here today with a very special guest. It's Michael Landers in the building, everybody. I actually don't have an applause thing, so I'll just do myself. That's good.

Thank you very much. It's Johanna. Joe Hanna. So busy time for you. you are American, but you're currently in London, England. I am. How are you finding? I was going to do a bad English accent.

No, can you do an English accent? I can do the woman at the airport at the magazine that goes cashier number five, please. But that's like, that's Johanna. That was very good. I was going to, so are you acquainted with England? Do you know? Yeah, I've come here quite a bit. Yeah.

My wife's dad is Scottish. I did a couple of series here. I did a series here. I did a play. Occasionally you guys invite me over. And I love it. Yeah. But this show was made for Sky, but we literally filmed Hootin and the Lady all over the world.

Yeah, I was going to ask that, because that is the thing that you're promoting at the moment, which is your brand new Sky Series, which starts today. Tonight at 9. On Sky One. Sky One. The main channel. The main Sky. And so, yeah, I've just been checking out the trailers and stuff.

It looks, for me, it reminded me a little bit of like the sort of Indiana little homage to the sort of 80s. It is a thoroughbatch. It's just a big fun. Action adventure. It's got humor. And we literally did film all over the world. We were in Russia. We were in Cambodia.

We went to Rome, Africa, Namibia. Did you collect little trip? Air miles. I collected snow globes. Did I collect little snow globes? I collected a lot of air miles. Which is your favorite country to visit? We ended in Cambodia, which I didn't anticipate myself going there.

So to watch the sunrise at Anchor Wat is kind of awesome. But I'm half Italian, or my grandfather was, so I loved Italy. We started in Rome. Getting back to your European roots? Yeah. It was fun. I mean, like, we were in Russia in the dead of winter, and I got to bring my kids on there to Moscow.

We're one of the only shows that's ever filmed in the metro system in Moscow, which is cool. And we shot in Red Square. It's awesome. Special times. So you are, it's called Hootin the Lady, and you play. I play Hootin. Houten.

And the lady is played by Ophilia Loebibond. Ophelia Loebond. Which, don't you just love saying that name? Or Ophelia Lovobon. Ophelia love Yes You have to roll your tongue At least three times

It's a very sexual name I love it Is it? And also It's not like Johanna No I like Johanna I like Johanna Yay thanks

I want to really I play hooten He's an American kind of adventure guy That is very good at Tracking down Artifacts or treasures Or anything for private investors

He does it his own way He doesn't follow any rules Which also leads him into a bunch of sticky situations And is it like comedy? There is fun. It's tongue and cheek. Banter.

Intellectual foreplay. A bit of bans. Little bans. Back and forth. But it's fun. I mean, they're kind of opposite. She's very straight, but they both want the same thing. They just go about it differently.

And so that creates a friction. And did you audition with Ophelia or was it? Yeah, I came to London and met five. They had me read with five young actresses. and Aphelia came in last. Yeah. And I had just, I was making a movie in Thailand and I flew from Thailand. And she came in, she had just got off a plane from New York and she was playing like, oh, I'm just flustered.

And I just flew from New York and I was like, Bangkok. I got you beat. So we instantly kind of hit it off and had like a little bit of a rat-tat tat. A little rat at the chemistry was there. Apparently she absolutely nails auditions because there's a weird little link I just realized today. because Noel Clark, who is my co-host here, he is a producer and film director and an actor himself. He's currently promoting his film.

It got into the Toronto Film Festival. Aphelia was one of her first ever films was one of his. He auditioned her, and he told me about her ages ago. He was like, oh, I'm at this actress. She walked into the room. I had a role in mind for someone else, and she walked in and boom, part was hers. She's great.

So he, a weird little, I wish I was here, because, yeah, he could definitely tell you. She's also a comedian. I mean, she's her time. Timing is amazing. She was on that show, W-1A. Jessica Hines, who's a big comedian, she's in the show, and a guy called Jonathan Bailey, who was on Broadchurch and W-1-A.

So it's Hootin and Lady in the cast of W-1A. Now, you were also, people might remember you, because you were back in the day. You were on Superman, weren't you, the New Adventures of Superman? I was. I was on a superhero show when it wasn't cool to be a fucking superhero show. But for me, that is the only, like, Superman series that I register as real. Like, that was my childhood.

I love that show so much. That's so funny. I wanted to be Terry Hatcher. You did. It's dangerous when you're a kid I'm watching that show because you're like, I'll just jump out of window, I can fly. I can do it.

I'll do it. I want to be a reporter. That didn't happen either. But you do a very good English accent. That was very good. I want to do a little challenge with you. Are you going to do an American accent? Do you want me to?

Yeah, you can let me hear it. What do you just say? Do you want me to go for a yogurt? Okay. Let me just say, and I'll try to do it in an American. I'll tell you a word that everyone always says, like it's tomato, tomato, you know what the word that we don't do together the same.

Yogurt. Yogurt. Yogurt. Yogurt. Yogurt. Yogurt. Yogurt. Of yogurt.

But yogurt. Why do you say yogurt? Like yogurt? I didn't hit it. I just said, I just say yogurt. But you go to Valley girl. Is that way you can you do a valley like that? What, like LA?

Like California? Like totally like that. Yeah. I spent a lot of time in LA last year. So I kind of thought that one out. That's great. That's very good. But English, let's go back to English.

Because I'm a London. I'm from South London. South London. From South London. Broccoli. I am from Broccoli. Get out. How do you know broccoli?

Shut the front door. I know broccoli because I did a show here when we filmed in broccoli. I've laughed. I'm from Brooklyn. Isn't there like an old dance hall there or some old? Yeah, the Rivilly Ballroom. Oh my God, we were like old schoolmates. Boom.

Well, I was going to, yeah, I grew up in Brooklyn in South London. So you were trying to test my London knowledge. I want to test your London slang. So if I'm going to throw you some slang words, and I'm going to see if you can translate what you think that they might mean. Minge. Sorry. Do you know what that is?

I do. You know what? I love that in, what was it, the in-betweeners? That kid with like the clunge mags and, sorry, I'm being naughty. No, no. Minge is one of, like, my favorite words. Give me a word. Okay, what about peak?

Peak. Yeah, what do you think peak means? Fuck. Like we've peaked, it's, I fuck, I don't know. It's an uncomfortable situation. Peak. This is peak. This is peak.

Yeah. You can bring these back. to American, you can teach everyone. Maybe not. Okay. Yard. Yard. Yard.

Yard. Well, a yard in America is like money. Oh, is it? Like, what do we call? A yard is like a thousand bucks or something, right? Or 100,000. A yard? A couple of yards.

Well, yard here is your home. Your yard. Your yard. This is my yard. Your crib. Yeah. Your yard. You're hitting me with some young good.

Yeah, this is like the current. High through Minge. Okay. What about if something's dead? Fucking dead. No. If something's dead, it's not happening. It's not going on.

Nothing's happening right now. Poor quality. Poor quality. This is dead. This is like, you know, yeah, sorry, mate. Your jacket's dead. Wow, give me some more. Shit.

What is, what's WIP? Your ride. Your whip. Your car, right? Yeah, okay. Okay, okay. That's the same one. Okay, cool.

What about a fam? What is a fam? Your family? No. Your friends. It's a close friend. Your close friends. My fam.

And, a final one. What does Peng mean? P-E-N-G. Ping. Ping. We have a thing, what we call Pang, is if you have a moment that you go,

fuck, I shouldn't have said. There's like a peng in your stomach or like a ping. No, it's nice looking. So if you see like a really hot girl, oh, she's peng. She's paying. But explain that you just made that up.

I did not make that up. Why is the good looking girl peng? What makes her peng? I don't know. These kids on the street, they just like twist words. Look at her, she's pang. Yeah. Or she's paying for dinner.

Paying. that's how we would say She's so paying, I'm paying. She's paying. Fuck. Yeah, no, well, I didn't do well at all. I did extremely. Well, I was so impressed that you do Minge, that's amazing.

That's a bit naughty. That's amazing. There's an actress in Hollywood who got Minge tattooed on her foot. Did she? She maybe didn't know well. No, she, yeah, she didn't quite, it was Amanda Seafrid. And she said she was on set with Colin Firth, and he kept saying Minge. She kept swearing, Minge.

And so she loved it so much, she got it on her foot. And then now she does red carpets. There's minge on her foot. There's minge on her foot. Well, we have a lot of swear words over here that maybe don't translate. We say bugger a lot. Bugger, like, oh, bugger. That's like a Hugh Grant movie.

Oh, yeah, he's a lot. You say bullocks. Oh, bollocks, yeah. You say the C word a lot. The sea word in England seems very normal and it's less offensive, but in America people get offended by it. No, it's still pretty offensive here. Is it?

Yeah, not really used much on TV or anything. But going down a pub, it's everywhere. If they don't even say it, they go, you fucking, Just whisper it. What about mingin? That's an Irish thing. Yeah. Oh, that's so minging.

Yeah. Well, all those, I'm from New York City. So you'll have, when you come from different, if you're not in like a posh, you know thing, I think you come up with your own little slang or is. I invent words sometimes. I said horrocious once. And I meant like horrendously ferocious and it just came out as herocious. But horosius is a good word.

So I get that. I was like, oh, it's just, horrocious that situation. It's like Shakespeare. He made out words all the time. I think they made up Shakespeare. Are you fan of Shakespeare? Bill? William. Old Bill and Billy Bill?

Shakespeare? Yeah. I don't, I don't... There's a rumor that he was actually a woman, but writing under the male name. Willamina? I mean, that would make sense, I think. All those feelings that he was writing about.

It's pretty much just PMS in a play, isn't it? Just like, I hate you. Do you go to Shakespeare? I do. At the globe, they've got this really good deal where you can go. It's like a fiver. All the time. For a fiver.

That's the Columbus Ruffer. road flower market you can spend a fiver. I have a little fan in England. I have some good friends here, yeah. Do you know who Dexter Fletcher is? Yes. He's the voice of McDonald's. The Big Mac MacFerrie. You've not heard. Every time you listen to McDonald's, it's

Dexter. How do you know Dexter? We did a play. Does he get free McDonald's? He doesn't get free McDonald's. You think as the voice of McDonald's, you'd be able to walk in and be like, but I think they pay him and he can buy some McDonald's if he wants. That's not as fun, is it? Where do you get a good burger? You guys are all big about your lobster burger thing. What's going on?

I... Where do you get a good cheese burger if you're... Oh, five guys, isn't it? Five guys. I get free burgers at Five guys. You do? I did an interview once and I accidentally made a huge tit of myself and made a big sexual innuendo when I was interviewing someone and it went viral.

And five guys offered me free burgers. Five dudes offered you free burgers. Five guys the place. Five guys the place. Yeah, that was the mix-up. I was talking about five guys. You were thinking of five guys. The burger place and they thought I was talking about five men. of mine.

Uh-oh. Never go lower than seven, so that's fine. Johanna. Okay, so back to... What else can we talk about? Who's doing the lady? A little bit more. Because it's starting tonight.

Have you actually seen... How many... I saw, like, the first two. We go to Rome and the second one. The first one's in the jungle. We go to Egypt, Russia, Cambodia. It's just good fun, escapism. We do a lot of stunts.

We were up on the stunt team. Do a lot of the Tom Cruise movies. Okay. And Tom Cruise picks the safest people in the world. I felt in good safe hands. we did more stunts than I ever have, and they pushed us further than we ever did. We did fights on helicopters. Did you hurt yourself?

Emotionally. No, you get hurt a little bit, but they don't let you do every, everything, because there's insurance and stuff. You have to come back the next day. I'm not precious, but... You've got to keep your face intact. I guess, I don't know. I'm going to start watching it, and that's actually quite big.

Normally, I just stick to Netflix. You got any upcoming projects like next in line where you're going on to... I did a film with Matthew McConaughey called Gold. It's a, that's coming out on Christmas Day in America. I don't know when it's coming out here. Okay. It's a big drama. It's about the largest gold scandal in the history of the world, I think.

The history of the universe. It's kind of gold, money, greed. But it was written and directed by the guy that did Siriana and won the Oscar, and he wrote Traffic and won the Oscar, Stephen Gaghan. So it's a good proper. Proper serious chunky. And McConaughey's great. He gained all this weight and lost his hair.

He's like, great. He's going to, I think he'll get nominated for another Oscar. You said that with like a nice amount of. No, he's amazing. I think he's great and I think he's fun and... He kind of came out of nowhere. He was like killing the, you know, the rom-coms and all those kind of films and then just out of nowhere, boom. He did all those romantic comedies and then he moved to Austin and he took a little break. And then the phone stopped calling for a while and then all of a sudden you become a new idea. And he came out and he did a couple of movies before Dallas Byers Club that were great.

Yeah. Mud and Magic Mike too. That's what happened. That was the first movie. I think Soderberg called him. And he came and did that. He works hard. Do you play like a goodie or a baddie or a... I just play a banker, a New York banker that goes... Baddy?

No. That goes to Indonesia to verify that what they found is really gold. And it turns out to not be really gold. And I look like probably an asshole. But it's all set in the 80s. I had to pretend more to travel with a Walkman. I love that part of acting because I'm an actress as well. Like when you get put on set and you have to pretend that you're an expert at something,

I'm like, yeah, I can totally fly this helicopter. Thank you so much. I won't be getting in a helicopter with Johanna. Thank you very much. Thank you. It's amazing to meet you. I can't believe that you're from my hometown. Well, you went to my...

I'm from my hometown. Dance hall. River House, whatever it's called. Okay, we need to stop here because this is getting dead. Okay. You're listening to the best of Johanna James and Noel Clark

on Feebar Radio. We need to introduce. We've got our guest. This is Jade Adams in the studio. Hi! Welcome. How you doing? I'm right, mate.

I was stuck in. traffic so I'm all like I've got too much adrenaline because I thought it was going to be late. Well you're not. Now I've got to tell you something. I've heard that you're a funny, the funniest person in the planet or something like that. Something like that. Basically what happened was I was having. You better make me laugh today, is what I'm saying.

I had an interview and they said to me, they said, oh, tell us for the uninitiated, who are you? And I went, well, a humble answer is that I'm just a lowly cafe worker just with dreams of making people laugh. To anyone else, I'm Britain's funniest woman. Oh, no, I said, I'm the answer to British comedy. And then that got taken as the thing. So now I can use it as a quote, mate.

So, yeah, that's PR, mate, that is. It is PR. I love that. I love that. But apparently I'm quite funny. I just, I just, I'll be the judge of that. I've funny bones, apparently. I've got a funny bone.

Have you? Have you got a funny bone? Yeah, mate, you've got to stop doing that. It's all kind of. I got a funny bone. He hits on my mum. It's kind of a problem. Yeah, her mom loves it.

Her mom loves it. But she likes it. She likes it. I love how, how, how, how, King size snickers right up her. She loves it. Does she? This is...

King size snickers with nuts here. This is taken a turn for a total tone turn. Yeah. Your Fubbae, it stands for fucked up beyond all recognition. Oh, that's great. So you could take in any old riffraff here, really. We can just go.

And look at the simple. Not on this show. We only take quality on this show. Thanks, May. That's why you're here. Thank you. Quality industry. Peeps.

Peep. On quality, apparently. It's hard to like, it's hard to, when you are, where I'm from, you don't really sit around bragging about yourself like people do on the internet so when I'm in these things where I'm in for 15 minutes and I've got to make people come and see my show I find it ever so uncomfortable to just say,

hey, I'm real funny. I'm so funny. I'll tell you what you won't do is you won't be bored for an hour. So what is your show about? Because you've got a show at the Soho Theatre. I have. I'm around there all the time. Come, mate.

It's well funny. It's about, basically, it started off as I didn't want it to be what it was about. and then over the preview period that I did from March to July it turned into a show which was where I basically spent 31 years of my life trying to be other people thinking that other people knew what the route to happiness was

and then I realised at 31 having done this show that actually I knew what it was all along and that was to be me and that doesn't mean people have to be me because I don't like that I don't like it when people copy it's one laugh I'll just write that down one lick one tick done

no one should copy it you should just be yourself. That's what I think anyway. And I think that happiness comes from being yourself. Indeed. However that is, and not worrying, trying not to worry what other people think about you. Yes. Which I spent all my life doing because I had some stronger female role models that liked to dominate me when I was growing up.

Oh, did you? Sounds saucy, don't it? Family members. I know I'm West Country. I'm not that worst country. Two. Two. Just making note with that. That's two do.

Excuse me, chest infection. gone. I had the same thing as the Dream Girls Girls had. Oh wow. The show got shut down, isn't it? I had the same illness. Did you give it to him? I think I did. Stop snogging all the cast of showgirl. That's so fit. That one from Glee is well fit. Who's in there from Glee? I don't know.

I just saw her singing and I thought maybe she's in it but I'm not, I don't imagine that that girl's in the West. Maybe she is. I haven't seen her do any work since Glee. No, me neither. It's the black girl in Glee. She's sort of my size with big old fro. No, she's done nothing since She's done.

She played Mercedes, she's done fuck all apart from now she's in Dreamgirls. She's a very good voice. Yeah, she's got a good voice. Do you sing? I do, yeah. I sing opera.

This chair wants to move around. In the show? Do you sing in the show? I have an ongoing battle with these chairs so just be careful, mate. They're the enemy. I am. I do sing in the show,

but not until the very end, which has ruined the ending, but you still won't expect it because I take you on a roller coaster. It's full of stuff. I've just jam-packed my show with as much as I could. There's dancing, singing, I lip sync at one point, I

beatbox, I rap, I can do the splits, I shut up. Yes, mate. I was a dancer for 12 years. Fantastic. Some people call themselves a triple threat. I am an octuple threat, which has actually no relation to the fact to look a little bit like Ursula from The Little Mermaid. You don't know like that. Thanks, mate.

That's a half laugh there, I'm arguing. four and a half. No, three and a half. Don't get flat here, so three and a half. Three and a half. But she's only been on like two minutes. That's brilliant. That's brilliant.

That's brilliant. I don't. I don't love much. I don't love much. So that is brilliant. No, honestly. If something's funny, he just goes, hmm.

They're belly rolling on the ground. I'm like, mm-hmm. Is that because you think you're funnier than everyone else? I'm mildly amusing. Yeah. It's because you're the class client, ain't you, mate?

I'm mildly amusing. It's uncomfortable for you to have someone. Not uncomfortable. That's the wrong word, because look at him. it is it's not uncomfortable it is you had one there didn't you truth is always funnier than anything else

my show's very brutal as well I'm quite honest in it good I swear the audience to secrecy when they come in about something I say some stuff and I swear them all to like things that I would never put on telly or on radio I wouldn't ever say it but on stage I give some stuff over to the audience

that they're not allowed to like reviewers as well at times to shut the fuck up at the end if they didn't like it however funniness you were probably very funny at school which is why you went into the world of the dramatics you were hilarious in Doctor Who mate

thank you I was a massive fan of when you were in it I didn't watch it so much when Matt when Matt what's his face left but when you were in it was brilliant yeah when I was Billy and Mickey and yeah all that I know I miss Rose babes

Rose and Doctor that's pretty much rare Rose and Doctor yeah I don't think they ever really recreating it I don't think that they did it as well as they did it when they did it then. Yeah, I mean, maybe. Yeah, Babes. Yeah. Yeah. Bates. Yeah.

Billy should have stayed in it and not done that stripper thing. I didn't mind that though, because she had her bits up. She is wealthy in that stripper show. Mm-hmm. She's all right. She's all right. But she's better as Rose. Oh, totes, yeah. You guys.

Well, Bobitz Rose was a stripper. In fact, you know, there's some fan YouTube videos on YouTube of Rose from Doctor Who doing, like, basically mashed in. Doctor Who and the diary, Secret Diary of a Cool Girl, because there's a scene where she has sex with Matt Smith, because he's in Doctor Who and that,

so they match it together. That much of a fan. Google that, kids. I used to read fan fiction for Bucket the Vampire Slayer. Did you write it as well? No, I didn't write it. So for people like that, no, fanfic is when fans write stories, episodes of their favorite shows or second favorite shows

and have the characters fucking and doing all sorts of craziness. And people love it. I was always spit roasted by Spike an Angel in my fan fiction. Really? No, I didn't write it. I just thought that would be funny. That is funny. That's mildly amusing.

It's mildly amusing. You didn't laugh, you just told me it was funny, which is what you always want as a comedian. That was funny. There you are, that's funny. That's funny. Is he doing this with all the comedians? I think so. You're the funniest ever.

What, funniest person ever? I'm quite funny. Do you know what I did today? On New Year's Eve, I am doing two things. I'm doing Soho Theatre with Bourgeois Maurice, who were a great sort of Cameret Double Act. Then I'm going to The Eagle in South London, and I'm dressing up, so Scotty, who's a drag performer that I work with,

he is doing a show where basically everyone who's died over 2016 is getting recreated in this show at the Eagle. It's a lot of cast. I'm Victoria Wood. I put the wig on today. I look just like her. Oh, man. I was doing all the hand actions as well.

Let's do it. I was doing it. It was great. And that will be great. How did you feel about it? because she was someone that was really, I guess, a pioneer in your... Lady comedy. Yeah, she was.

Yeah, she's great. I loved her. I watched Acorn Antiques and Dinner Ladies and I watched all her stand-up. And I watched, well, her sit down because she was at a piano. But, yeah, no, she was great. She was, you know, she is a pioneer of ladies' comedy, which is great. I'm not, I'm a bit funny about the old ladies' comedies. I just tend to do comedy.

I don't really sort of... It's not ladies' comedies. It's just comedy. comedy, mate. I'm just funny. I happen to have a vagina. I'm sure it's a very pretty one too. It is absolutely lovely. Can have a look? You can. After the show, we're doing one. Oh, I was going to show right now.

Facebook, we'll Facebook Live in. Feel free with Facebook Live. Yeah. Can we, um, who, so who inspired you when you were a young comedian? Dawn French, Jennifer Saunders, Victoria Wood did, Julie Walters. And then I watched a lot of American stand-up, so like George Carlin and Bill Hicks. I mean, every comedian says that. Louis C.K. I love Louis Ciccom. He's brilliant. But I love my favorite stand-ups, all-American. All-My favorite, like, proper, you know, not what I do, which is fuck-ass in around with a load of

bag full of props and shit. But, you know, like, what they do out there with it, because my show is the first time I've done an hour of chatting as well, because a lot of people think, oh, I'm going to be, like, putting on different costumes. I stay in the same clothes all the way through the show, and I ain't Adele in it either. because I do Adele. I'm doing it tonight at the glory in King... Is that why you got your wig with you?

I had to bring it with me and I panicked because I thought I was going to be late and I was just dying it because it was too blonde. That does it like Adele, isn't it? Yeah. I'd do it all right. Some Trannies called me Adel when I moved to London six years ago and not wanting to get any more jobs in call centres

or serving smashed avocado on rye bread to children as young as four called Joffrey. I decided to start dressing up as Adele for Cash. It's not about Shell. To be fair. It's also the opening line to my show. So how did sort of the Soho

theatre come about then? How did it get from you having a thought, I've got an idea to be funny in a show. How did you get it someone to commission it? I went to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival 2016, smashed it in the dick, got nominated for Best Newcomer. Seven.

Seven. Seven. Seven. Eight. Nine. Run the roll. It's like, I need to have a little king like, ding, ding, ding, ding. I got one, I should have bought it. I did a scissor kit to P.J. N. Duncan's Let's get ready to rumble in the Bethanyl Green Working Men's Club and fucked my knee up and did me ACL in.

Oh, flipping on. That's painful. When my mum was looking after me, she put the food on the other side of the room so I'd walk over and get edgy, she's cruel bitch. And then she also gave me a little bell, which she would just let me ring, almost like I was that guy in the wheelchair in Breaking Bad, who was just about to kill Gustavo. Great reference. Oh, yeah. They're very good. Good reference, so you got...

Oh yeah, so I got nominated for Best Newcomer and then I didn't think I was going to get Soho Theatre because they weren't really... Like everyone else I'd seen had been given their spaces and I was like... And then I was all like, oh, it's a class thing. It's because I'm working class because there were a couple of reviews up in Edinburgh

that sort of really annoyingly referred to me as crass or brash and it's just a shitty thing to say just because I've got an accent and I'm not... And also I'm not like... I haven't... You know, I'm not... I have... don't have much fear when it comes to expressing

myself. So I, you know, it comes when you're female, it comes across as someone who's a little bit, too Frank or Gaudy or something like that. So I had a... Or when you're black, boy, yeah, babes. Just for, it's... Working class is the new black, mate. And when you're both of those things. Oh, mate.

Or female, of course. You need to be fat and in a wheelchair now, mate. I'm changing your sex. Yeah. And then... You will tick a lot of boxes. They'll... They'll... They'll... They'll commission a sitcom for you in a minute, mate. I know. Maybe I should try that. Just walk, go in.

in a wheelchair you'll be dandy I might try that do it right it down you're gonna make a note of that too yeah so I didn't think I was gonna get it and then they and then they gave me 14 or 15 dates

which is quite a lot for someone who didn't win best newcomer but was nominated for it and it's been selling really well I've sold out the last three that I've done and I think Tuesday might be I'm not sure but I think it's very close to getting sold out on Tuesday so you're at the cellophiles

how long are you running for so I've now got a run from next Tuesday to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so the 20th

to the 23rd, I think it's four dates. Then I come back from Christmas, I'm doing the 27th, 28th, 29th and 30th.

Oh, great, in between. And then I've got another run from the 3rd to the 7th of January as well. So you're around,

so if people want to find you. They can come watch. It's funny. They'll enjoy it. It's not, I don't mention, like,

my relationship status really in it at all. And I don't like, I don't moan about not having a boyfriend or anything like that. It's more about me being a person and me being a bit of a dickhead, really, which is what you want.

I think what you want from someone who's going to make you laugh. This chair is mental. She's turning, she's now facing the other way. There's a complete rotation. There's a war on chairs, man. Just watch it. Am I meant to ask you guys questions? No.

Well, we are slightly out of times. We're coming towards the end of the show. We've got to move on to our film reviews, but thank you so much for coming in. What film is it? Loads. Just be careful of that chair. Just name me a film and I'll tell you what I think. Star Wars.

Love it. Rogue One, Star Wars. Oh, I ain't seen it, mate. 10, by the way. Thank you. Brilliant, you got 10 laughs in 10 minutes. That's amazing. Fantastic.

Thank you, Jade, for coming in. And her show is on now, and we'll be going until the 10th of January. All right. Thank you so much. We'll see you in the new year.