Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 26 - Joe Morton, Quinton Aaron, Lewis Rose

Episode Date: February 27, 2017

Noel was in this week and it was a banger of a show! On the phone we had two amazing guests; Scandal’s Joe Morton, followed by the main man in Halfway Quinton Aaron. In studio we had the very talent...ed Lewis Rose to talk about his film The Chop and the lovely Lucy Patterson with her honest film reviews.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Oh man. The King is back. I'm back. And you can tell I'm back. Because Ed Sheerun and Stormsie straight away inside a roll.
Starting point is 00:00:19 I'm saving you with the music. I'm back. I'm back. I know. He's coming. He's messed up my whole music system. I did. I sent an email and I was like, fuck that man. We've got to play these tracks and messed up a whole routine.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Well, we're going to be playing a lot of Stormsy today. because he's just dropped his album. Just dropped the album, man, gang signs and prayer. And we're huge fans of him because he was in brotherhood with us. Yeah, well, we're fans anyway. Yeah, I'll be a fan anyway. He was in brotherhood with us. The album's fire, as the young people say, it's fire.
Starting point is 00:00:43 He is so cool. And I really respect him because he was talking at the Brits and he was talking about his girlfriend, who is also sort of in the spotlight, but they stay pretty separate. And some people, I think of saying, oh, your girlfriend, just your girlfriend, because you're Stormsy.
Starting point is 00:00:56 And he's like, no, I was with her when I was nothing. and she used to buy me dinner when I had no money. That's what I'm talking about, man. She's been around for a while, man. She does her own thing too. Yeah, exactly. And she's not interested in being known as Stormsie's girlfriend. So a huge respect to...
Starting point is 00:01:08 Her own thing going on. Respect to both of them. Yeah, exactly. And I was just like, we are. Right, this is back around chill, Johanna James and Noel Clark. Yes. We're speaking to some pretty cool people today. We've got Quinton Aaron.
Starting point is 00:01:20 He's going to be talking to us about his new movie. He's the guy from the blind side. Remember that movie a couple years ago? Oscar winner, I think. No? No? Oscar nominated. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Well, Wikipedia is wrong. Well, we're going to check that before we speak to him. We got... Oh, the film was won. The film won, not him. I knew that. Oh, that's good. That would be embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:01:43 And I think Sandra Bullock won as all. Oh, yeah, I think she did. But he didn't win. Oh, that's a shame. Next time, Quentin. And we've got Lucy Patterson back in at 530. You're going to give us the reviews on what to see, what's not, what's hot and what shit.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah. essentially. And loads of entertainment news. I've been doing all my research about what's coming up this year. This is a huge year for film. I love 2017. So excited.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, it's an odd number. I'm not a fan of odd numbers, but it's so far it's so far it's looking good. Oh, you know, like odd number years? No, I don't really. I don't really like odd number years. I don't really mind. I still think, in my head,
Starting point is 00:02:17 I still think it's like 2012. Yeah, also, we do have a competition with it. We do, because every week this year, we've been running a competition on our Twitter, which is at Fubbar Radio. And we've been giving away. Cool stuff. Cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:30 We've given away movie, DVDs, signed posters and whatnot. Brotherhood stuff signed by me. Uh-huh. Sign by Noel. We got a poster, the soundtrack and the DVD. And so we have a competition winner. So congrats to Laura Atkin from Scumthrope. Scunthorpe.
Starting point is 00:02:49 She's super excited. She said that we made her rubbish week fantastic. Unfortunately, she can't be on the phone with us today. If you win, we like to get you on the show. But never mind. you're not on the phone. How can I come back to the show and you got like a sexy name too, Laura, what was it? Laura Atkin. Laura Atkin. Laura Atkin's sexy name like I can just Laura, Laura Akin. And now you're not even on the phone to talk to me. What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh well, well, we made a week though. So we're going to be sending out all the brotherhood stuff to you. I'm changing my mind. I don't know if Laura should get it now that I'm here and she's not here. She's not here to talk to. No, you can't change the rules. You can't take it back. Laura, take note, man. Next time you win something, make sure you're on the phone. I want to speak to you. But cool. All right. It's on your way to you. Well, okay, so if you missed out, fear not. We have another competition starting right now. I'm excited what we're giving away.
Starting point is 00:03:34 We're giving away the screenplay and the soundtrack. Shut up. Shut up. Train spotting two. Which is so far is my favourite film this year. Wow. It was my favourite one. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Train spotting two. And the soundtrack is immense. So listen, guys, let me tell you something. The screenplay is published by Faber and Faber. Now, Faber and Faber published screenplays, as I've just said. I taught myself to write. I've said this many times. I taught myself to write with screenplays,
Starting point is 00:04:01 with screenplays published by Faber and Faber. So you guys who want to be writers and our actors and stuff like that should get this, win this competition, tweet in, wherever the fuck you need to do. I'm never sure what you need to do for these competitions because I don't actually control him. I just turn up at the show and do things. Jahana does everything.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And then, and then read the screenplays and learn how to write. If you want to be right, learn how to format because that's what I did. And I'm sitting here now with my own radio show with Johanna James, bitch. Oh, bitch. So you can, um, you can, If you want to win this, if you want to win all the T2 train spot in gear,
Starting point is 00:04:30 then go to at Fubar Radio on Twitter and just make sure you're following us and then retweet the tweet we're about to put out. And we're just going to pick a winner. And next week we will pick you and then call you. And you better be the fuck on the phone. And you better be on the phone. Akin. Laura Akin.
Starting point is 00:04:46 So yeah, go now and you've got, we're not going to, how long are we going to run it until they've got that? Like a day? A week! Oh my gosh. There's so much time in the world. You've got no excuse. Yeah, you can even chill and not do it. today and just be like, I'm just going to chill today. I'm going to win that shit tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Do it over the weekend, whenever, like, get drunk and do it tonight. Like, tweet us like 10 times and not realized. That's cool. That's cool of us. Brilliant. So that, yeah, but honestly, Transporting 2. If you haven't seen it, I don't know if it's still out in the cinema, but that was, is it? It's still like in a cinema. It's not to be confused with Terminator 2, by the way. No, not that film. Yeah, T2. It was when I felt, I love that film. And I love the soundtrack. Terminator 2 or Transpoint 2? I actually love both them, but Trainspoena 2 was so far of 2017.
Starting point is 00:05:27 We're only just in. We're just in. We're just in. We're just in. Just the tips in. Just the tips in. So you like it in it, Joe. Have you missed me? Have you missed me?
Starting point is 00:05:35 I've missed you. My mom's good. Just the tips in. She missed you too, babe. I bet she's. Right. Do you want to go? Let's do a little bit of a song.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Let's do a bit of a song. And then we're going to come back with some entertainment news. What the fuck is happening in the entertainment? Film shit when we get back. Yeah, film show when we get back. So I think I'm going to go for a bit of Jackson 5 from the Guardians and Galaxy soundtrack. Okay. I can live.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Come on, is I want you about? This is great. Was he still black at the time? Yes, you were thinking of still black? Yeah, cute. Oh, and chill with Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Boom. Jackson 5.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I loved it. Guardians of the Galaxy. You know, Michael Jackson's kids, she's like modeling for Chanel now. She's like proper grown-up young lady. Oh, I bet she did it all by herself as well. Paris Jackson. Paris Jackson. She's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Nice name. Well, she's called Paris. She's got semi-normal name. And then his other sons are called Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson Jr. and Prince Michael Jackson. And Prince Michael Jackson, yeah. A.k.a. Blanket. He's older now. He's like 15-odd or something. It's so strange, isn't it? That they're all grown up. I remember when they were born.
Starting point is 00:06:50 It's like you were there. I was there at the birth. I was. I was. You weren't dangling them out of windows or anything? No. No. I remember that. I remember that on the news. It wasn't that big a deal, I remember thinking my dad had done something, my dad would do that. Yeah, I mean, like the press tried to crucify the poor man. It wasn't that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:07:09 He had a tight hold of his case. Yeah, you can hold a, my dad all the time, like put me on his shoulders and walk through doors and smacked my head on the door. Oh, man, that explains everything. I know. I'm now starting to understand it all, man. Dad dropped me everywhere. He dropped me everywhere. Oh, I've just been told that we have our first guest.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Quinton Aaron. Don't lie, my G. He is on the phone, so let's see if we can get him at his technology. Quinton. How are you with that? Hello. Quentin, my G. What's happening, brother?
Starting point is 00:07:35 What's going on, man? What's going on? How are you? Big fan. What? What? You of me? Shut up, man.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I'm a big fan. Come on. We're big fans of you. Yeah. For real. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Thank you. So what's happening? How's the treating you in Glasgow? Because that shit be cold, you know? Just be just, you know, us black people, we have to be careful of the cold. Could they be trying to kill us in Scotland? So just, you know, talk to me. You know, it's funny, though, I'm a rare.
Starting point is 00:08:00 like I'm probably the only black person I know that loves the cold I'm enjoying this weather right now Now gee we're about to fall out I'm about to get on the train and come up there and knock some sense into your How can you be talking that you like the cold? Like what's happened to you, bro? I'm from New York. All right, all right, yeah
Starting point is 00:08:18 I know it can be cold in New York too, it can be cold but you get them good summers though, you get those good summers Exactly So we're here to talk about your new film Which is called Halfway Yes and people might have known you before they'll definitely know you before
Starting point is 00:08:32 from the blind side and so we just want to talk a little bit about halfway the new film because it's not out yet, it's in the Glasgow Film Festival currently, but we know we're actors so we know it's new to the world but you shot this like what a year ago, a year and a half ago? Yeah, about almost two and a half years ago
Starting point is 00:08:50 now, yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes films take a while in the pipeline, yeah, yeah, you know. All right, yeah, so tell us about the movie and then we can, let's talk about it because I enjoyed it myself. I really liked it. I've watched all of that. I'm a big fan at how you got up with them cows, because I don't be dealing with animals, man.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Especially animals that you can't train, like dogs and stuff like that. And cows. Cows. When that cow was sucking your fingers, I was like, oh, he's going to lose his hand or something. All right, tell me. Tell me about the movie. Let's talk about the movie. Talk about the movie. Yeah, no, no, no problem. It's halfway, so
Starting point is 00:09:20 it's basically a film that came about from the director who's actually from London. Yeah. Ben Carr. He wrote it and it was originally about, you know, a young British kid who was a fish out of water, you know, coming into Wisconsin to live on his family farm. But he wanted to change that aspect of it and make it more relatable to, you know, today's society and the social injustice was going on in the, you know, jail system, prison system. today with minorities going to prison
Starting point is 00:10:00 for repeated crimes and stuff. So, you know, about the recidivism issue. And so Halfway kind of speaks on that and in a sense where, you know, it takes the story of Byron who was recently released from prison. And, you know, it follows his life through his, you know, life on the farm.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah. He's the fish out of water, you know, in a sense where he's doing his probation out on the family farm and it's totally outside of his element. And it's his stepbrothers farm, right? Stepbrother in his family. Yeah, yeah, exactly. His stepbrother who got him out of prison, you know, as the favor he had to return, you know, by doing, you know, his due diligence on the farm.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Exactly. And, you know, so it's a story about choices. I like, you know, to put it in that sense because, you know, when we get out of everything we do in life is based off the choices that we make. And Byron was presented with the opportunity to either make a better man of himself or, you know, go back into his usual ways and possibly land back in prison. I think it's a beautiful, I think it's a beautiful film. I watch the whole thing. And, you know, it, for me, it was a real subtle, subtle movie.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Like, it wasn't, you know, today's movies is like you sit down, you put into mad glasses and there's explosions and everything. It's always good to see. It's always good to see a character-driven movie. And, I mean, I've got to tell you, man, like, I've seen a few of your things. And obviously, everyone's like, blind-s-eye, blah, but this performance was good. I'm talking, like, they're all like,
Starting point is 00:11:40 case Manchester, by the sea. But your subtle performance in this was some good shit, brother. I got to tell you, like, really, really, really was good. And I think you're right, it is about choices. But it was interesting for me to see that, you know, the director chose to go that way because it added a new dynamic. Like, when you meet the old man from the other farm. That was my favorite.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You know, without giving too much away to the audience. But this is... He was awesome. Yeah. Jeffrey DeMond is an amazing, you know, amazing actor, amazing talent. And just a really cool guy, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 It's fun to be around on set. And he definitely, he's one of my favorite characters to work with. Yeah, but it speaks about also the, you know, you have the young guys being overtly racist to your character or being quite rude. But then even the guy that is really supportive and really friendly has that sort of, ignorant racism, not in a bad way, but like he's calling you colored when he doesn't know that it's not acceptable anymore. And it's like it speaks about society about the way people are treated, even if it's not intentionally and how there needs to be more awareness about this whole thing. And I thought it was really, really good by the director and writer.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Because your character, Byron, he's the only black farmer in the area or becomes the only black farmer. And I've got to say, you're becoming like the king of living with white people. Living with white family. You're the king. Byron the king of living with white folks. I was like, again, he's got another. Too funny. You know, I accept that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I accept that. I like to think I can get along with anyone. Yeah. Maybe that's like your film niche. Like every family in your film, they're just all white. You've got to just be like up in the white people's house living in a good. Listen, talk to me about these cows, bro. You got to talk to me about these cows.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Oh man, the cows are awesome. It's funny because when they were teaching me how to milk them, They said you have to talk to them. You have to walk up. You talk to them and rub their behind. So I was like, okay. Like a woman? Pretty much like you.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, exactly. That's how my wife did me, bro. That's how my wife did me. She milk it and she rubbed my behind and talk to me in my ears. Pretty much, pretty well. Sorry, carry on. It was awesome, man. It was definitely experienced.
Starting point is 00:13:46 The cabs were, you know, they were hilarious, man. The way they just sucked on your finger. It was funny, the first day, one of them almost took a ring. I was like, well, I'm, well, I'm, need their back. That's what I'm talking about, man. And yeah, the baby one that got out was cute. I was like, I was like, how
Starting point is 00:14:02 he touching with his cows, man? And then the one that got out, I was like, okay, that one's cute, you know, I could, I could live with that. Then he started sucking your finger. I mean, just for the audience note, obviously the film's not about cows, but it's a really touching movie about this character who comes out on parole and ends up on his brother's farm, stepbrother's farm, and then of course
Starting point is 00:14:19 realizes that the stepbrother is not as genuine as we believed, but we don't want to give too much away. But I mean, I really want our listeners and everyone to go see this film and take a watch of it. I want to tell you, my brother, that you were brilliant in the movie. And again, once again, you know, subverting and defying people's expectations of what we're supposed to do, man. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Appreciate that. Thank you, man. Definitely. And how long are you going to be over in the UK? You know what? I will be here. I'm going to a game tomorrow. I'm going to a football game tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Who you seen? I was playing here in Glasgow and Sunday I will be going down to London for a few days Nigra listen We're in London boy You better come here in London
Starting point is 00:15:05 What are you going to do down in London What are you doing down here? Okay okay You know what I have some friends flying into the States That will be You know I'll be hanging out with down there So yeah definitely
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'll be around definitely All right I'm feeling up on social media Dude yeah I'm gonna The radio station's already tweeted you and tag me in it and stuff like that. But I'm going to holly you because I'm filming. I'm filming on Monday.
Starting point is 00:15:28 But like if you're not doing that and you want to come to sit or whatever, like just come down and whatever or whatever. I'll holler you anyway. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you. Definitely. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I love how this is just turned into like a casual team. Well, we're brothers, man. This is how we got black people have to stick together, man. Because you're always trying to kill us and shit. And like, that's what we're brothers. You feel me, bro. I know you feel me, right? I know you have to be PC.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You got to be PC. I don't have to be PC. sees my show I said what the fuck I want. Absolutely, I'll tell you. Thank you so much, Winston. We'll let you go back to your chilly Glasgow. Guys, everybody, make sure they watch
Starting point is 00:16:03 Halfway. It's out. It's Quentin Aaron, British director, and it's a great, great movie with no explosions and a crazy cow. Check it out. Crazy cow. Have a good day. Thank you. Bye. I love, bye. Bye-bye. He's so chilled. I love that. Like, he could just be, like, at the Oscars or something.
Starting point is 00:16:22 and he would just be like He just chilled Yeah, I'm here Yeah, he could win an Oscar They'd be like Quentin Aaron and he'd be like yo Yeah, cool Yeah, that was nice
Starting point is 00:16:30 So the Oscars Are this weekend Oh yeah they are Sunday, I've lost my ticket again Every year I just yeah I lose my Oscar ticket But
Starting point is 00:16:40 One day I'll go But Did you put it in the thing To cure the No, let's not talk about that on here I put it in my pocket And then I put my jacket In the wash
Starting point is 00:16:49 Okay So the Oscars are this weekend It's like the, you know, this is like the crowning glory of all the awards that we've been having. The Academy Awards, because you know what? It wasn't called the Oscars for a long time. It was dubbed the Oscars later on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did a little bit of research about the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Why is it called Oscar? Why is he called Oscar? Well, that's the thing. There's a little, the theories about why. Apparently there was somebody who was on the committee had an Uncle Oscar. And she said, oh, the statue looks like my Uncle Oscar. There was another theory. Was he dead? Like stiff as a board?
Starting point is 00:17:25 Like laying down? I don't know. Barry just looked like a 14 inch gold statue. The other theory is that somebody else who won an Oscar, her husband was called Oscar. So she called it a little Oscar in honor of him. Oh, and thanks for the little. Yeah, I don't know. So no one really knows how it came about.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Does anybody know the real story about why it's going to? If anyone knows, tweet us in at Fubbar Radio. Or email. Or email at Fulbaradio.com. That's a cool email address, chill. Chill. At Fieldbar Radio. I know.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Chill. We came out with a name, by now. So, yeah, so the first Oscars ever was on May 16th, 1926.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And there was just 270 people there and it was at the Roosevelt That's still a lot of people? Hotel. It was in a little hotel. If that many people
Starting point is 00:18:09 came to your birthday, it'd be happy. They do? Yeah, I'm lucky if I get to. So then it was first televised in 1953. So it was spent
Starting point is 00:18:19 so many years, just. That's a lot. So people, could say they won and not even really won. Exactly. It was, first time it was in colour, it was in 1966, which is quite late actually. No, because I think colour TVs were only
Starting point is 00:18:29 around that time. But in the, okay, all right, I'll give me that one. But it just makes, when you think in 1960s, it doesn't seem like that. No, because the World Cup final in England, the World Cup final was black and white. No, was it? Black and white. I wasn't born, obviously. Were you there? Oh, damn it just about to say. Were you watching? So it was, yeah, it was dubbed the Oscars in 1939, but no one really knows how that kind of out.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Somebody find out for me, please. And the Oscars apparently, they are worth a dollar. Shut up. The actual statues. Which translates to ATP. I mean, not in, I don't think in terms of materials or how to make it, but basically, everybody who gets an Oscar has to sign a thing to say, if they ever going to sell it, they first have to offer it back to the Academy for a dollar. I see. You have to.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You have to. Apart from... And obviously, the Academy will buy it because they don't want anyone to sell them on eBay. but that doesn't count to any of the statues before a certain date that that came in like in the 60s so there are some of these old Oscars that are selling for a lot of money So Austin Wells Oscar So Austin Wells Oscar for Citizen Kane
Starting point is 00:19:34 Guess how much that sold at auction for 70,000? No More? Higher, shut up 250,000 Higher A million $800,000 was Austin Wells Oscar
Starting point is 00:19:50 What would you do with that? It's ridiculous What would I do? I'd watch the guy who bought it at auction Follow him home and then rub it off The hood I mean that's ridiculous 800,000 dollars, that's mental
Starting point is 00:20:04 What's the most expensive things you guys have bought? Tell me, tweet me emailing or tweet me What is the most expensive thing you've ever bought Apart from probably like a house car Yeah On my debit card on a debit card
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah How much is it Like 14 grand Just straight out You just went I won that one Yeah But this was years ago
Starting point is 00:20:22 I wouldn't do something That's stupid now This was like 2004 On a debit card On a debit card A thorough Thorei Thore
Starting point is 00:20:30 Your car is going This is a debit card I said I know And you put it through And it went through And he was like What do you do for a living So that's not
Starting point is 00:20:36 None of your business mate Porn Give me my keys Just give me my keys Yeah stupid thing to do Very stupid thing to do I don't advise Anyone doing that
Starting point is 00:20:43 That's the most expensive thing I've ever bought outright and it was a very stupid thing to do. Everyone knows cars depreciate the moment you drive them out. Exactly. As soon as you drive it off the drive. It was worth half the price, but I didn't know that back then. Idiot. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:57 what have you bought? What have you spent money on? If anyone's listening, you can email in, chill at fubaradio. We'll shout you out, or tweet us at fubar radio. What's the most expensive thing I've ever bought? I don't actually spend a lot of money on things. I'm also saying that because I don't have a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I don't believe that. You look lovely every week. This look doesn't cost nothing. It's that, you know, eBay. eBay, this was $5 from a market store. Maybe you should start doing a YouTube show called the $5 outfit. You know how people go like the 50p meal and all that. You should do that. Honestly, I'm a queen of charity shop.
Starting point is 00:21:31 But I have... Queen of charity shops. I think I bought my laptop. That was kind of expensive. I bought it outright. What was that like $200? No, it was $1,000. It's $1,000.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I bought a Mac. I did feel pretty cool going in. You are pretty cool. I was like, brand new Mac. Because I've always had hand-me-downs my whole life and then I finally got to buy something like straight off, which felt very good. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Well, computers are important. My thing was stupid because I was young and stupid. A car. Yeah. My car was £800. Yeah. But it's never broken down. But I bought it brand new. I wouldn't do that now.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And my car now costs a little more. Do you still have that car? Do you know what? Do you know what, actually? I kept that car for 12 years. Okay. So then... Even when I was making films and all that and people were like,
Starting point is 00:22:14 Bro, why are you driving this car? I just loved my little car. I kept it for 12 years. I was like, here's my car. I only got rid of it like two years ago. Yeah, I've got a little Nissan micro and I love it. It's missing a hubcap. It's got a cassette player.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I don't care. Mine had a cassette player. It was a little Volkswagen Polo. Had it for 14 years. Good. 12 years, sorry. Yeah. Right, back to the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Do you know that the, what was the first sequel movie to ever win an Oscar? Indiana Jones and Temple of Doom? No. No, I don't know. The Godfather, too. The Godfather Part 2. Wow. And Bob Hope, the comedian who loved his films growing up,
Starting point is 00:22:48 if anyone doesn't know who Bob Hope is, Google him. He hosted the Oscars 18 times, is that good? Is that the most ever? That's the most ever, yeah, 18 times hosting. And Oscars in World War II, they had to be made out of plaster because they're metal shortages. Because the metals were being used all the bullets and on that. See, I'd want one of those ones, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I'd want a World War II one, yeah. So they had to give that little plastic ones. I mean, the fact that they were still doing Oscars while the World War II was on is a bit. I know. But then I thought... But it didn't affect a lot of people in America. In America. Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought metal shortages in America. Yeah, for ammunition.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Walt Disney won 22 Oscars. And he was nominated 59 times. Wow. So, I mean, I think he must win. Most nominated... Yeah, possibly. Dude. I'm going to check that. The most nominated dude, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And then they had to... The longest Oscars was like... four hours so they had to bring in a rule that you get 45 seconds until the orchestra nobody listens to that they will cut you off who do you guys want to win oskers that's the thing does everyone want casey a flet to win for manchester by the c'd you want ryan gozling do you want denzil washington i know poor denzil our british boy andrew garfield is up for an oscar i would prefer i think casey defateau as well up for an oscar casey afleck um just his performance over ryan gosling ryan gosling was cute i got to go brits i got to go brits though haven't i yeah
Starting point is 00:24:11 We're brits. You've got to go, Andrew and Dev. Andrew and Dev. Andy and Dev. Andy and Devine. Who do you want to win an Oscar? It's this Sunday. You're going to be watching. Do you give a shit?
Starting point is 00:24:19 Do you not care? Let us know. If you're listening to the show with films and shit, you should care. So who do you want to win? Who do you want to win? Fucking emailing. Chill at Fubouradio.com. Or Alfred Hitchcock, when he won his Oscar,
Starting point is 00:24:31 he just went up stage and went, thank you. I walked off. I feel like that's what I'd do. I know. You wouldn't, don't need. I'd be like, yeah, cool. I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:24:40 It's for you motherfuckers that said I could never win this shit. No. Do you remember when Cuba Gooden won his? He went crazy on stage. He's like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, going crazy. I was like me. They should take that shit back. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Oh, oh, who should have their Oscars revoked? Because I put him first in line. Who should take it out? Who should... Cuba, I put him first in line. Sorry, Cuba. Um, who should... I love your work, man.
Starting point is 00:25:01 The OJ thing was awesome, but you did boat trip after you won the Oscar, man. They should have took that shit back. I think that, so I hate when someone gets an Oscar, for where they should have won an Oscar, they didn't, and then they get an Oscar almost like in retrospect of something they've previously done. Denzel done some great films and didn't get it from Malcolm X,
Starting point is 00:25:19 and they gave them one couple years later for something. Yeah, so I think it's a little bit of a, hmm, hmm, a bit of a game, the Oscar panel. Politics, I think there's politics. Yeah, there's definitely politics there, but I don't know, I'm quite excited. I like it, I like the, and I... You're going to stay up? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:35 No, fuck that, I'm too old, man. I'm working on Monday. I'm too old. I don't even stay up for WrestleMania anymore. not staying after the Oscars now. You're too old, man. I can't do it. I can't cope with the tiredness the next day.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And I love my wrestling. You know that. I managed to stay up until 5 a.m. recently watching UFC. I was so proud of myself. And you know I love my UFC team, but even that now. Unless it's like, if Michael Bisping's fighting,
Starting point is 00:25:54 that's my boy big up Mike, if he's fighting, I'll stay up. But I'm dead. If there's anyone else, I'm Skyplussing that shit. Whatever, you can do it now, can you? Oh, we've got an email in. It says, hi, guys. Michael Shannon needs to take an Oscar home for Nocturnal Animals.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Yes, he does. He's a deep dark actor and everything he does. I love his shit. He's hot, says Paula. So when you say you love his shit, Paula, as in, like, you've actually love his shit. Like, when he takes his shit, you love it. I think she's referring to his work there.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But it's hard to tell. Is that Paula? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that says Paula. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that says Paula. Paula. Paula, I agree with you. Thank you for that. Michael Shannon is a G.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Obviously, I love Dev. I want to support Dev. But actually, Michael Shannon should win that best supporting, and I hope he takes it home, actually. He was great in Notton. He was really good. But I, I, I feel. found the performance that affected me most
Starting point is 00:26:41 was the other guy, the Aaron Taylor Johnson. I really found, he really disturbed me. I was like shit, how do you play such a good... Do we still have our... Ravish? Tumbleweed thing. No, no, took it off, but... Sorry. Aaron, yeah, he was good.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He was good. No, I think... Nocturnal Animals is an amazing, it is a really good film. I was completely shocked when I'm to see that. I didn't know anything about it. Aaron will get one for something else. Yeah, he's solid, he's good. Bit of a duching person. but solid.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Oh man, I'm mad, man. He left me completely hanging in that interview. I was working really hard. He wasn't giving me an inch. Nothing. Not even an inch. He didn't give you an inch, not even the tip. Not even the tip.
Starting point is 00:27:24 He didn't even give me the tip. Damn it. I would have loved his tip, but anyway. Right, let's go on a little bit of more music. Let's go back to Stormzy. Yes. I've been listening to the album on the way here, but I didn't get down to Return of the Rucksack.
Starting point is 00:27:34 So let's have a little look. Is this one? This is the track, man. Is this a bad boy track? The track. Yeah, return of the rock. And listen, someone gets a shout out in this track. Guess who?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Is it you? Play it, bitch. Okay, let's see. Back Row and Chill, coming back soon. Back Row and Chill with Joanna James and Noel Clark on Fubour Radio. Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire. See, Clark, you've got a shout out.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah, if you listen carefully, he shouted out, no. He did shout me out. And if you listen really carefully, he probably shouted me out too. I don't think he did. But rich really quickly, you know? As you young people say, I'm gassed. Shout to John James. I dropped him a little tweet to say, thanks.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He hollied me back, obviously. Yeah. It's in the film. I love Storms, you make. No, he's good. He's good in Brotherhood as well. He is good in Brotherhood. I don't think, did he have any acting training?
Starting point is 00:28:17 Or was he just natural? Didn't have any acting training. No, I liked him. He was a director, boom. He's there, man. He was very, very good. You were saying that your name could have been Clark. Yeah, I was just saying, actually, that my mom's maiden name is Clark.
Starting point is 00:28:29 So I said I was going to be a clerk. And I said, I have something to tell you after all these. I said, Father! I am your father. It all makes sense Yeah, can you imagine, advise your dad That would be That would be cool
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'd be a cool fucking dad I think Well I am a cool man You are a dad Yeah But you haven't got a girl I'll be your own I'll be your adopted Yeah I don't have a daughter
Starting point is 00:28:52 Does that make me Bit black then Yeah A little bit Just the tip Just the tip black girl Listen I don't have a daughter Unfortunately
Starting point is 00:29:01 No I know I know I'd be good with a daughter I would love a daughter You'd be Major member of the daddy production
Starting point is 00:29:10 I don't know man but can you imagine now if I had a girl now she'd have me and three older brothers fucking hell she would never date could you imagine imagine some boy coming to the house be like you heard me to take your door out but is that right it's just a baseball bat
Starting point is 00:29:24 is that right bro boys me like boys three brothers three older brothers come meet your daughter your sister's date yeah geez fun times mate
Starting point is 00:29:34 um okay so film film film I've having a little look about what is coming out what's coming up in the rest of the year what's going to be made and things further on so there is a film called Little America which is going to be made
Starting point is 00:29:50 it's set in a dystopian future where Donald in London no in China shut up it's called Little America instead in China yeah so it's where it's I was trying to be funny but now it's where it's a Donald Trump like future where the president has
Starting point is 00:30:06 bankrupted America and China is called in the Deppes and so Americans have to emigrate to China for work Call in the debt you mean the debt? The debts. Not the Debt's.
Starting point is 00:30:17 You were like, I thought you said the Deppes was like they called Johnny Depp in his family They're calling the debt And so Americans have to immigrate to China for work and so now Your mom is emailing in the show She kills me every life I love you, I love you
Starting point is 00:30:31 Oh, Mom I call you, I call you baby, I'll call you When Mom's just emailed in To say the most money I've ever spent It's £800 on. No, mum. I'm pretty sure you've spent more money on things. So you didn't buy it.
Starting point is 00:30:42 No, I didn't buy it. No, I bought the insurance, which was $1,000, so I spent more. I love, I absolutely love that your mum listens to the show every week. Only for you. Mate, I know. I feel like we should just do it and get it over with because I don't, this tension. The tension's been building for five years. Over the mic is too much, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I think we should just do it. Just hollowing me. Just drop me a little text. Well, you are technically my adopted dad, so. it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I just don't want to know. So Little America is exactly that. It's set in China. It's set in China and it's about that whole thing. I just thought I could be quite, I don't know if it's a comedy or whatever it's serious. Who's in it? Who's going to be in it? It's just announced.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So it's a concept. It's a good. Let's get an agent on the phone for a roll. Let's get some job roles in that. Sing 2. Sing 2. It's going to, it's been, but it's not coming out until December 2020. Yeah, because they've got animated.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I know. Everyone who knows Singh came out At the end of last year At least year, great animated film Taran Edgerton, Reese Witherspoon Bunch of other people, Matthew McConaughey bunch of other people I don't remember but really good film
Starting point is 00:31:46 My boys love it It's actually pretty good So I do watch it but Sing 2 Sing 2 is Went down a storm so they think What do you think about sequels all the time sequel sequel sequel sequel Well that's the thing
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think it sometimes it Sometimes sequels can be amazing Like the tour I don't hood bro like those trilogies Yeah Or like Toy Story story I thought they did really decent sequels. But they're doing number four.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I don't know if they should do number four. Are they? Yes. Oh. Yeah, I know. Oh, it ended so well. Just leave it to... Leave it, B.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So there's a film called Miss Granny, which is about an African-American 70-year-old who becomes 20 again. Sounds good to be funny. Yeah. Who's doing that, Tyler Berry? I don't know who it is. Again, it's what's on this announced.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Miss Granny. Miss Granny. Miss Granny. but being a 70 year old being 20 again for the day would be just interesting quite funny kind of like 90 Professor 2 where the dad gets young and stuff like that yeah so I like those I quite like those films where you body swaps
Starting point is 00:32:44 and age swaps yeah that could be good that they used to be do them a lot like big and vice versa and millie willie do you remember millie willie? No before your time that yeah yeah um 23 jump street is back because they were good 23 jump street 23 jump street I mean fucking up right now they jumped off that street yeah they wouldn't make any more
Starting point is 00:33:03 of those films well Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum are back and not only that they're doing 23 Jump Street and they're also doing Jump Street versus men in black in the same movie No they're not, shut up. Apparently so. Get out of it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Jump Street versus men in black. They're not doing that. I'm putting my hat in the ring saying those films sound terrible like end of they sound terrible. They're going to make a lot of money obviously I love Channing Tatum. Aliens and Channing Tatum.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Sound terrible. Cool. Yeah, cool, yeah. Oh, we just got another email in here. It says, hello. I'd like Ryan Gosting to win as he's my future husband, but he doesn't know it yet. Lovely voice. In the line, Maggie. Well, I'm pretty sure. Is he married?
Starting point is 00:33:43 Sorry, Maggie. But Maggie's going to make moves, man. Oh, right, sorry. Good for you, Max. You get him. You go get him, girl. He has got a lovely voice. He is all right, yeah. But a lazy eye, which I didn't realize.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Neither did I. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. They filmed him so well. I didn't know how the lazy eye. Yeah, he's got a lazy eye. Crooked eye goes, so you should nickname him. Anyway, what else? Um, so Avatar 2.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I'm not happy about that 20th Street. Anyway. Has got the go ahead. Avatar 2, boom. For Christmas, 2018 next year. Fucking, I'll be like 70 while the time. But they are going to film, not just Avatar 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5. They're going to film at the exact same time on one massive, huge, probably the biggest ever film shoot ever. So that's going to take like a year for the actors. 2, 3, 4, 5. Do we want Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5? I mean, that's a lot of Avatar. It's been a long time since the first one. The first one was good, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But it's been a while. Do we want two? Do we want Avatar 2? Do we want Avatar 2? Do we want 3, 4 and 5? Because I had my, I must definitely don't want. 2? 2, yeah. 3, 4 and 5?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Nah. I'm indifferent. Go away. I'm in different. But yeah, I don't know if that's like that's just going to be the most expensive, huge, epic. Can you imagine the production team on that are just going to, they're going to die? The catering budget will be bigger than the budget of my films.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Definitely. Yeah. The catering budget. on like that Tom Cruise films is bigger than most films budgets. Yes. See, if you ever want to get good food, work on a Tom Cruise film. Yeah, Tom Cruise film. Oh, here's a little bit of factoid knowledge that I thought you might appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Broome, tell me, tell me. So there is a particular note from the Star Trek soundtrack that can make a woman orgasm. Yeah, yeah, I heard that. It's a thing called the Blaster Beam, which makes this an unusual musical thing. Okay, that sounds very interesting. Interesting, but, you know, so we should move on. Okay. Well, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:35:38 We should move on. Oh, man. Okay, quickly. Well, anyway, apparently it is an octave below piano, and it can stimulate all the right bits in a lady, and they can... What note is it? It's an octave below the lowest on a piano. Right. Someone get me a piano in it.
Starting point is 00:35:52 But if they use it on the Star Trek soundtrack in 1979. That's why people like that show so much. So they love that show. Do, do, do, do, do, do. How do we get an octave below? Boreau piano. Be careful, Noel. Be careful.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I'm going to do this note. See, tell me if you have a little quiver in your pants. No. Wasn't working. Not deep enough. Nearly? Oh, they don't like, I know you do. Right, okay, let's go for another song.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Who do we want to go? Oh, I'm going to go for. The streets. Yeah, this is from. Kid Outhood. Well done. So we wrong, man. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I went back to your films. Here we go. Back row and chill with Johanna James and North Clark on Foobar. Hey, we're live on the radio. Hey, I'm just, hold on guys, I'm just talking to the family here. Just one second. Noel's on the phone.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I've got to go, man. You know, I'm live on the radio. All right, see you later. Bye, boys. That's that cute. That's how I roll, man. I'm a cash guy. I'm a regular dude, man.
Starting point is 00:36:52 We're live on the radio, but we're going to talk to the family at the same time. Live, love. Multi-task. They say we can't multitask, bro. It's multitasking. Right, we've got our second guest in the studio. Lewis Rose. Louis Rose.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Welcome. Thank you. Hello, how you doing? Oh, you have a radio voice and a half. There you go. I love the name as well, Lewis Rose. Louis Rose. It's like tough, but then sweet.
Starting point is 00:37:11 It's like a wrestler's name. It's not even a stage name. Really? It's a real born name, yeah. It's like a wrestler's name. The new WW champion, Louis Rose! I like it, yeah. I love that.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So talk to us, man. We are here about the chop. That's right, yeah. It's a short film that I directed. Quite a while ago now. It came out in 2015. Fantastic. And we've just been doing the festival circuit
Starting point is 00:37:33 and we screened at BFI London and we've screened at over 50 festivals now. I love how we just said we were just doing the... You've done a big festival. He's like Dros Jock, we're just doing the festival circuit. Bear in mind, you've won what? How many awards is it? 15, 16 awards?
Starting point is 00:37:46 15 awards in the festivals around the world as you've been touring with this film, yeah? Amazing. It's been going to amazing. Like, we never thought it would get this kind of attention, but yeah, it's been awesome. Fantastic. Got to travel around with it and...
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, so tell the listeners what the short's about and then where we can see it after that. Yeah, so it's a comedy, 15-minute comedy about a kosher butcher who loses his job and he can't find work at another kosher butcher, so he pretends to be Muslim to get work in halal butcher. With hilarious consequences. When I read the synopsis, I was like,
Starting point is 00:38:19 I want to see that immediately. That's great. And it's actually screening tomorrow at the Vault Film Festival. Ooh, the vaults are still going on. Yeah. What time is that? It's at 1.30, I believe. Nice.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You hear that? It is screening tomorrow. tomorrow at the Volk Film Festival at 1.30. Yeah, the chop. And the VALTS Festival, it's in the Lewisham. I'm not Lewisham. That's where I'm from. It's from in the Waterloo Vultz.
Starting point is 00:38:43 In the Waterloo Vaux. Yeah. Boom. Make sure you check out. But anyway, carry on. So yeah, you can see it there. And also, if you check out our Facebook page, there's more info. And so you can see it online through Vimeo on demand. And it's going to be screening at quite a few other festivals.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And we're just, you know, looking at where the next stage we're going to take it. So tell me, tell me. How did you, how did, because you're the writer and director, which is brilliant. I love a director, I'm a director myself. You may or may not know. I do know. I like your work, a lot. Thank you very much, dear.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Tell me, how did you come up with the idea and how long did it then take you to write? And what inspired you to write the idea? Well, I kind of knew a bit about both cultures. Like, I think growing up in London, you sort of, you know, you're around lots of different cultures. And my school was quite a big, well, quite a lot of Muslim students, not many Jews, actually. So I kind of knew a lot of the similarities between the two religions. and thought that there was some comedy there. And I kind of wanted to find a way to do the story
Starting point is 00:39:37 and not have to make it too much like playing on stereotypes so people are actually in their place of work. And this seemed like a good way to kind of make the two worlds collide. And then I sort of had it on the back burner for a while and then found out about this fun that the UK Jewish Film Festival do, which is £10,000 to make a short film. And you don't have to be Jewish, it just has to be a film with some Jewish subject matter.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So I knew about that, and we wrote. wrote it and went for the fund and we got it and it's just kind of gone from there. Great. Fantastic. And what's the overall message behind the short? Messages about togetherness really and just, you know, London being a multicultural place. And I guess kind of, you know, like I said, the similarities of the religion. Also, you know, kind of some of the silliness, but not really making fun, just kind of pointing out, I guess that we're all the same really and that even if we come from different places.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And I think, you know, people are very worried about who they're going to have. And I think when I wrote this film and when I had the idea, a lot of people, if you say it, they think it might be offensive. But I think, you know, I was very careful to try not to offend people. Because I think if you go into it with the right intention, you can still sort of gently make comments about things without, you know, taking the piss too much. Because people take, people take religion and stuff, especially these days, very, very seriously. Yeah, yeah. I'm so offended by what you put on the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Very sensitive. So it's interesting that you came up with that. And what are your plans for the, what are the plans with the film? It's still, how much more festivals is it going to win at? Does it have to keep going? You know, you're just chilling, touring around the world on free flights or, you know, or what's next for you? Well, the film has probably got like another couple of months of festivals,
Starting point is 00:41:17 but I think the next stage is we're developing it into a series. So just speaking to a couple of different productions about that and looking to take it to the next level. So, yeah, we've got, you know, working on an outline and seeing out how it can be adapted over six episodes and just what can happen with the characters and just how many more jokes we can back here really. I know a couple of producers you should talk to.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Bing! That's in me, but yeah, that sounds great, man. That sounds great. And obviously you want that to be a returnable series something that can keep going and stuff like that. Yeah, and I guess, you know, Jews and Muslims, that's never going to die, right? There's a lot of fun of there, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:52 There's going to be a conflict going on, but, you know, we can try and do our little bit to just poke fun and, you know, diffuse the tension. Defuse the tension, yeah. I think that's important, man. Well, good. It's good to have a short film about togetherness and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah, wish you luck in all these festivals. And what about yourself? What's next for yourself? What are your plans? So I'm writing my first feature at the moment. So that's my next sort of long-term goal. And then I also do a lot of commercials and music videos to pay the bills.
Starting point is 00:42:19 And also it's a lot of fun. So, yeah, working on a few music videos at the moment. And, yeah, just trying to keep working and keep my head above water. Griding. Yeah, getting on to the next thing. Well, we look forward to that. feature and we look forward and you guys should so where can people see the chop where can
Starting point is 00:42:34 they see it now at the minute so tomorrow they can see it at the vaults and if they want to see if they miss it there then they can go on our Facebook page and they can go to links where they can buy it on demand and eventually it will be released online for free boom any idea when it will be a little while because of distribution in the festival circuit probably like not for a year or so so oh yeah but we can buy it we can buy it for five guys go on go on video on demand It's a price of a pint. It's well worth it, I promise. And buy it.
Starting point is 00:43:01 And question, where are you putting all these awards? Where are they? At the moment, they're just on my shelf. Have you got a space for any books or anything like that? I've got one shelf of my film books and there are wars below. Great, great. In the little office. Yeah, no, it's good.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And what are your Oscar feels for this weekend? Do you have anyone that you particularly want to win? Yeah. What did you like about the season? Well, I've seen moonlight tonight, actually. So I'm quite looking forward to that. So far my favourite. pick would be Manchester by C
Starting point is 00:43:30 for the main award I saw for documentary the 13th would be, I don't know if you've seen that. Yes, I've got that. I've watched it yet. It's really good about kind of the prison system in America, yeah, yeah. So that would be my tip for documentary. I'll watch that tonight, actually. Yeah, I like a good prison documentary.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yeah, oh and for Best Foreign Film as well, Tony Erdman, I don't know if you've seen that. It's a really good comedy worth watching. What's it called? Tony Erdman? Yeah. Okay, I've not seen that. Boom, I'm going to have a look at that as well. Those are the tips from Lewis Rose there. We got a couple emails in saying, hey, I thought La La Land was shit.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I agree. It was so long and boring. Gosling is really not as hot as you think from Drew. He's also not that good a actor. I'm sorry, I don't get the Gosling love. I like to drive. Lewis Rose does not get the Gosling. Well, I didn't say he was hot.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I don't think he's very hot. I think I'm hot in person if I say so myself. Thanks, Janem. That was not. there's an agreement laugh, I'm assuming. I like drive. I like drive is wicked. But he doesn't have to do much in that.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Doesn't say much, yeah, that's the key. And I like the notebook. Oh, jeez. Come on, I'm a girl. I'm a girl. I'm a girl. I'm a girl. I'm a girl.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm a girl. I'm a girl. I'm a girl. Oh, yeah, the notebook. Noah. That film drives me mad, insane. Noah, man. He just set a stupid standard for boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I'll be watching that sometimes with a girl and you're just like, this is so nonsense. And you look at them. They're crying. Oh, this beautiful. I have to say I watched it with my Mrs. Quite a few years ago and she hated it. So I was very happy.
Starting point is 00:45:02 We both watching it. We're both watching and we were like, this is all. Wow. She's the one. You found a keeper. She's the one. You have found a keeper. Oh, someone says, I'd love Lucas Hedges to get an Oscar for Manchester by the Sea.
Starting point is 00:45:12 He's a cutie from Nan. Now, is that his grandmother? His Nan. Is that his grandmother? I don't know. Just from Nan. Who is your name? Well, I want to know what your name is now.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Is your name Nando? Nando. I don't even can say Nando's. Is it? Maybe that's the person who started Nando's. Lucas Hedges is decent. He was the teenage boy in it, right? I don't find him that cute.
Starting point is 00:45:31 No, but he was good. He was very good. You ain't Dev Patel though. Dev, Dev, Dev, Dev, Dev. Dev Patel got hot. I don't know about that. Yeah, he had. He's not my type.
Starting point is 00:45:41 He won the BAFTA and everyone was like, what? Dev? Yeah, I don't think he's hot. I love it when a little ugly duckling gets hot. He hasn't got, he hasn't got boobs or anything. He hasn't got the man, the man, the man breast chest. He's not my type.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Well, I don't know. He wasn't my, but. I think it was the beard Beards can do a lot They can do a lot He's not the kid in slumdog anymore You know He has grown up
Starting point is 00:46:02 It's been in a few years I know But he's sort of stocked out And got a beard He's tall as well He's like six foot He's got hair I think he always had hair
Starting point is 00:46:10 But I get what you mean You know You know Like anyway All right guys I'm a dev fan Yeah cool Okay
Starting point is 00:46:17 So that's what Are you gonna be Are you gonna be Are you gonna be Are you gonna be Are you gonna be I'm gonna be I wanna see all the Trump hate
Starting point is 00:46:23 As well Oh my gosh There's gonna look To look forward To that more So much shade is going to be thrown. I think he's going.
Starting point is 00:46:28 He said he's going. He said he's going to turn up. No, he didn't. He didn't say that. He said he's not even going to watch it. He didn't say that. But that would be awesome if he did. If he just rocked up and was like, what? I'll take the award for a while. Some people say Merrill thought you should get the best performance for his.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Yeah, I mean, he can't be serious of all the nonsense he's doing that. I'm expecting it to be like an episode of Black Mirror or something like that. Someone said, I saw that the best thing that someone's holding up saying, this episode of Black Mirror is shit. Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, it is. it really is. Thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having me. All the best of luck in the Valtz Festival. It's so cool. Boom. The chop, guys. Make sure you see it.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Thank you so much. Right, we're going to pop to a song. I'm going to go for a bit of sunny and share because I like this song. It's better be good. It is. That song was dedicated to No Clark. Thank you. Okay. It's back on chill. It's Johanna James and Noel Clark. We've just gone after 5 o'clock. So, got one more hour left of the show before the weekend starts. Very exciting. Do we have our...
Starting point is 00:47:34 third guest on the line. We do. Amazing. So we're about to speak to the Emmy Award-winning film and television stage veteran actor. Joe Morton. So let's see if Joe's on the line. Joe, can you hear us? Hi, Ken. How are you? Hi, Joe. Welcome to the show. How are you? Thank you. Oh, it's a very, it's a tiny line. Where are you in the world at the moment, Joe? I'm in the Marina del Rey in California. Cali. Delray. I shot Star Trek into darkness out there. Very nice area.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Is that right? Yeah, really nice white beach, yeah. I was the first 10 minutes that blew up everything before Benedict came and took everything over. Yeah. How are you? Very well. No, I'm having a hard time hearing you. You sound very far away.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Oh, okay. We'll try and speak a little bit louder. Yeah, we'll try and speak up here. So, Joe, one of the most watched television shows is scandal. Oh, can you hear us, Joe? Yeah, and so Scandal is about to start new series. Yes, new season of scandal. And you play the nefarious Rowan.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Tell us a little about what we can expect without giving too much away for this season. Well, and I think the things that you'll find is that things will begin to shift. It starts off obviously with where we left off at the end of season five, which is who wins the election. So that's where you'll start. Okay. And how did you get involved with scandal at the very, very beginning?
Starting point is 00:49:13 No, season two. Season two, I'm assuming as an actor is an audition, or were you offered the role originally? It's a very funny story. I came out to L.A. for pilot season. I had, of course, heard of scandal, but never had an occasion to watch it. Watch the first season on Netflix,
Starting point is 00:49:34 and after seeing it just on love it, thought, oh, this would be wonderful I could figure out a way to get on the show for an episode or two. Yeah. And before I even had a chance to talk to my agent or my manager about trying to do that, I got a call from them saying that Scandal wanted to talk to me about coming on to the show. Nice. And then I spoke to produced Scandal. They made it clear that if I decided to take the role that at the end of season two,
Starting point is 00:50:00 the last two lines would be, Hello, Olivia, High Dad. and I said, yes, that sounds great, I'll take a job. Wow, fantastic. Fantastic. And Rowan is behind a lot of the shifty stuff that goes on in the season. Do you think, again, without giving too much, do you think this is going to kind of change, or is he going to continue his sort of nefarious ways?
Starting point is 00:50:24 Well, I mean, again, I think what you'll see is that things will begin to move around and shift. I keep saying that politics, Washington, D.C., It's kind of like a great big desert where all of the creatures have to really take care of themselves first otherwise they get gobbled up or burned by the sun. Yeah. Sun's in power.
Starting point is 00:50:46 So that's kind of what I think would be watching. Yeah, well, that's kind of like real life as well, isn't it, with the current politics in Washington too? Yes. Exactly. So you sir are also, in my eyes, not just because of scandal and your wonderful career, but you're a legend because you are,
Starting point is 00:51:06 also in the Terminator films, which I happened to love from when I was a child. What was it like for you back then? Did you know those films or that film in particular T-2 was going to be as big as it was? Well, if you remember, the first Terminator film was rather a low-budget film. Yeah. That did very, very well. So Terminator 2 was for games at that point a very large step up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I was absolutely excited to be part of it to work up with Arnold and Linda. So it was enormously excited. Very big difference for me. I mean, I had done John Sales movies in the past which were, again, low-budget film, so I had never been around that kind of size and that kind of money in terms of film before.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it one of those ones where the catering budget was bigger than some of the budgets of the movies you'd previously been on? I've been there a couple times. I'm sorry, say that again? Was it one of those ones where the catering budget was so large it was bigger than some of the budgets of other movies you'd been on?
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, I think probably their category budget was probably as large as what one of John's movies cost made. Yeah, yeah. James did things like he would, before we finished my death scene, he actually went sort of, because you remember at the end when I, after I died, Linda sort of spooked across the floor, and they start shooting at her,
Starting point is 00:52:37 and all the windows get blown out. Yes. He blew up windows long before he decided to shoot that scene just to see what it would look like. And I've never been around. It's like that cloud for that kind of stuff. Yeah, crazy. That's crazy times, man.
Starting point is 00:52:51 And he still does that with stuff like Avatar, just huge, absolutely monster-sized movies. And a couple years ago, you want to end me. What was that feeling like to get up on stage? and after having such a stellar career anywhere, I know you don't define your career by awards, but how did it feel to actually be recognized by people at that stage? You know, it's a very exciting thing when it happened.
Starting point is 00:53:16 You know, I was more than happy just received the nomination. So to win the actual award was just tremendous. Very surprising. I mean, I'd only been on the show for one season and six. episodes. So to, all that to happen that quickly, I thought was astonishing. So it was a lot to take in for a while. I don't know if you ever saw it, but we put out a picture the following day on Twitter of me in bed. Yeah, I've seen it. It's in front of me right now. I've got the picture in front of me right now.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And so it may have been surprising to you, but you deserved it. I actually had the statue on the dining room table from the night before, and I got up the following morning went into the dining room just to make sure that it had really happened and then my girlfriend said oh that's a good idea why don't you just get back in bed
Starting point is 00:54:12 with the award we'll take a picture and that's where that came from it's a great picture and sir it may have been surprising to you but it wasn't surprising to us you definitely deserved that I have to say
Starting point is 00:54:21 I have to say well thank you and Joe what's up next if you got anything later for 2017 coming up I mean Justice League Which comes out in November
Starting point is 00:54:35 Can't wait Because you play Cyborg's dad, right? I play Silas Stone, yes Silas Stone, yes I cannot wait Justice League Yeah, we can't wait for that I mean I saw you in there
Starting point is 00:54:49 Batman versus Superman being Silas Stone, you know With the experiments of Dad And I'm a big comic book movie fan So sir, you are a legend And I can't wait to see you in that as well Well, thank you It should be good.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I mean, it was very exciting to make. Right. Well, sir, we look forward to the new season of scandal. Yeah. For all our UK people listening, we watch it. It used to be on Netflix, and now it's on Living, the TV channel. Yeah. So you can catch it on that.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Thank you so much, Joe, for calling in. Hope you have a lovely day. Rest of the day, I'm not sure what time it is in California. And continue being an inspiration for all of us. You are a genius. Thank you. Not a problem. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Have a good weekend. Joe, thank you. All right, bye-bye. Thank you, bye-bye. Oh, what a love. Genius. He's a ledge, man. He's obviously got like a cool comedy streak for doing pictures like that.
Starting point is 00:55:42 He's a ledge, man. Tweeting pictures of him in bed with an award. Yeah, I might do that as well. I got a couple, you know. What awards do you got? Shut up. The Rabbit Award. The Rabbit Award, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:53 No, I don't think I've won. Oh, I have won an award. Yeah, what was it? I won, so I used to be part of an amateur theatre company. And they created award for me. And they called it the... The best Johanna James Award. No, they called it the 13th award.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And it was for the worst accident on stage. Why am I not surprised that you were involved in the worst accident? I know. Why am I not surprised, old clutzy clumsy, clums of it? So I'm the most clutty person in the world. And they said, we're going to give you an award. We're going to give you the 13th award because your bad luck on stage. Although, to be fair, I haven't seen you trip up in a while or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And I'm in heels. I'm doing well. I'm pacing myself. Yeah, you are. I've got heels on today. But she's got leopard print heels on, guys. Leopard print booties. I know every Friday, I do this thing on my Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I do like Hoare Day Friday, so I wear slightly sluttier clothes on a Friday. So I've got leather skirt and leopard print booties. Is that only Friday, is it? But Hoare Day Friday, rest of the week I'm a slob, look like a man. But Hoare Day, I put lipstick on it and heels. So I'm deciding which way the joke should go, whether it should be like you look like a man every day
Starting point is 00:56:54 or you look like a whore every day. But I've not, I couldn't decide quick enough, so now I'm just in the middle. I'm a man whore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I got the 13th award, which is cool because nobody else has ever got that. Nobody else has ever got one. It's an exclusive award.
Starting point is 00:57:08 You just sell it on eBay. You should sell it on eBay. Especially, class. Well, he's a legend. He's a legend. Joe Morton. Joe Morton, great actor. And I'm so glad that, you know, his career is really sort of taking off now. And I know that sounds weird, obviously, because he's been acting for a million years. But, you know, scandals really put him in a different place. I'm really happy for him. I like Kerry Washington as well. She's so buff. I should have asked him.
Starting point is 00:57:29 about Shonda Rhymers, but I couldn't hear him Will enough, so I was like, better to get rid of the world, we'll forgive me for that. Marina D'Oway is like fucking out there. It's like a, it's like beachy. It's where the Hudson, the Hudson Hughes, the Hughes brothers built that plane the Hudson Hughes or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, it's far out. Far out, dude. Yeah, it's okay, darling. California. Right, let's play a little bit more music and we're going to come up to... Go with my man, with my man.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Right, well, we're going to go for Stormsy? Yeah, man. Oh, which one, which one? The one that sounds a little bit like you, big for your boots. Ah, big, hey. Yeah. I can't see it, can't see it. It's up there, you had it.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I had it, didn't I? It's up the top there. Oh, here we go, here we go, I found it. She's found it. She's found it. Big for your boots. Do you know what? I love this song.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Because it describes Joanna James. Okay, play the track. Legend. Big for your boots. My boy. Yeah. I love how he says it. Your boots.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Man, that's a talent right there. We're witnessing, not witnessing, because he's been around for a while. And he's young. The birth of a talent right here. So young. A major, major talent. This is our guy. Is he doing any festivals?
Starting point is 00:58:32 I'm just wondering what... Probably. What festivals he signed up for? We've got some great people like Skepter and Wiley and Gets and all guys are great. But Stormsy is different. And he kind of just... Well, for me anyway, shot out of nowhere. It's like a Jedi.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It's like the new Jedi. The Last Jedi. He's like The Last Jedi. Oh, actually, there's a Star Wars parody is going to be made, of course. By you? No, I wish. It's by the people who made a scary movie and all of them. Great.
Starting point is 00:59:01 they've got two parody films coming out one is Star Wars Episode XXX1VE equals MC2 The Force Awakens the Last Jedi Who Went Rogue That's the full title Love that
Starting point is 00:59:14 Of the parody Sounds brilliant And the other one is called Who the fuck took my daughter Which is a parody of Taken Taken Who the fuck took my daughter Yeah that's great
Starting point is 00:59:23 I kind of like the sound of both of those Yeah It could be quite funny There was those kind of films I miss like scary movie one was genius Yeah. Genius. Actually, two wasn't bad either, but then by the time we got to like five or eight or whatever, it ended on.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Scary move, and 19, but yeah, I do love a good parody. Well, they did the 50 shades, didn't they? 50 shades of black. 50 shades of black. I think 73 shades of chocolate brown would have been a better title. That's the name of my film, my book. Is that your, erotic novel? My erotic novel, ladies, for those you listen.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Set in space? No, no, it's just set in regular places. Oh, I thought it'd be cool for space. Like beds and park benches and back rolls of cinemas. where you can back around your is called 73.5 shades of chocolate brown. 73.5 shades of chocolate brown. Would you read that? Would you read that book?
Starting point is 01:00:08 Would you read that book? Would you read that book? Would you read that book? Would you read that book? My mum would love it. My mum would love that. 73.5 shades of chocolate brown. That is the erotic novel I'm lighting. Hell yeah. Amazing. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:24 We're nearly coming up to film review time which is really quite cool. I've got one last piece of a little bit a news to let you guys know. Tell me I'm interested. Purge 4. Oh, for fuck sake. Why did I say I was interested?
Starting point is 01:00:37 I know. As soon as you said you were, I was like, not going to be interested in this, are you? So purge 4, but obviously they're making so much money and it is such a very good concept. They've got to make another one, but they're refusing to go further anymore because they're like enough's enough. And in the last one, the purge
Starting point is 01:00:52 ended anyway. So this time, it's a prequel and it's going to be how the founding fathers out. Oh, I see. Okay. So it's going to be how the purge came about. Because it is a bit like why the hell is everyone okay with the fact that you can just kill everyone every year? That could actually be interesting. Yeah, so it's the same writer, so I kind of trust that. Trust that would be as terrible as the others, really.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I quite like it. I like it. I will, uh, I will, uh, we just got an email in from Lila who says, I love it when Nol's in and it gets all saucy. Never stop or change. Lila. Never stop.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Babe, babe, I will never stop. If you like it, then I keep going. Like it, Lila. She doesn't even like it. She loves, I love it when Noles. in and gets all saucy. Socey, no. You miss me, didn't you,
Starting point is 01:01:33 you go? We need to get a little ident for you. Socy no. No. Thank you, Lila. I love you, babe. Thank you. Saucy no.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Brown sauce. Brown sauce. Chocolate sauce. How would you like some brown sauce? Amazing. Right. So we're going to get Lucy in the studio next. Lou Pets!
Starting point is 01:01:51 I think we're going to go for a little bit of music I've gone for. Again, Guardians of Galaxy. I just love that. I just can't wait for the second film. I cannot wait for the second film. I cannot wait for. for that, yeah. I really want to see that, but also I really want
Starting point is 01:02:02 mixtape number two, because I love mixtape number one from Gone in the Galaxy. So, this is the Pina Colada song from Rupert Holmes. I'm making love at midnight. Do you know what? I'll be honest with you. Yeah. Making love at midnight ain't for me. Not anymore. Nah, me, I'd rather be asleep. I'd do you at like 10.30 and I have a kip. What time a day? And then,
Starting point is 01:02:34 then again at 11.30. And then 6 o'clock in the morning. But I need that kit. But not midnight. It's not a midnight, man. I need to sleep, man. I like middle of the night sex Well like that sort of 3.30 in the morning when he turns over And just like pokes you in the back You're like, what's going on? Oh hello
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah Now I need to sleep now I need sleep now It's what happens when you turn It's an age thing It's a 60 But remember I'll get up at like Yeah you wish me
Starting point is 01:03:00 I get up at like I'll get up early so like Yeah you're a super early riser Come 5 30 you better watch out You're like I'll come to the warning Yeah A sleepover warning 530 you better watch up
Starting point is 01:03:11 No, I think there's different times. People like different times the day and that's the annoying thing if you're with someone who likes the opposite time of day to you. Yeah, that would be annoying. It's like one of you's always got to be doing it in the wrong. But then you're having you dealt with a permission slip? Can I do it while you're sleeping? I'd sign here, tick here. I was going to say like a parental permission slip and then that's just wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Because I'm not a fan of peanut caladas either, so that song just isn't for me really. That wasn't your jam. I like a peanut. Do I like a peanut? No, a bit coconut. I think. I prefer the I like a big, I'm a girly I'm a girly gay cocktail cocktail person. What's your one? Like sex on the beach or
Starting point is 01:03:47 Mahito or... It doesn't surprise me. I love a mohito and sex on the beach. Doesn't surprise you do. She's just been eating a peanut butter kickout as well which really winds me up because I want to eat it. He want to eat it and I offered him half of the Kit Kat like a good friend. I can't be doing it I'm in good shape. But he said no. I said no and it smelled so good. Well done. No it's good
Starting point is 01:04:07 you're going to get your abs. I've got my abs. You got abs? Me too. I got one ab. Just the one. A cake. It's just a cake.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Just a little cake. Right, so last week I got the pleasure of going to interview Barry Jenkins who directed and wrote Moonlight. Which is out of the cinema now. So I'm going to play what it was like meeting him
Starting point is 01:04:31 because he was just really, really, really lovely. So let's just pop then on now. And then we'll be right back with film reviews. Back row and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. If we could just quickly speak about the BAFTAs, because that's just happened last night. So what was that experience like? It was cool.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I've never been in the same room with royalty. Literal royalty and acting royalty. Yeah, no, no. It was dope. It was a cool experience. Noel was actually there, and I was watching. Yeah, in a white tux. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah, looking snazzy. Trying to stand out. And I was sort of, because you were up for, was it best picture? Yeah, it was Best Picture. Yeah, it was, uh, original screenplay. And then the supporting actors, supporting actress. Yeah. Yeah, I was like holding my breath just in case because I got to see the film.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And it was, I didn't really know. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I deliberately about it. And I just went in completely fresh. Oh, that's my favorite kind of view. Yeah. I just like, what is this? I'm not, I'm not going to ask. I'm just going to watch.
Starting point is 01:05:30 And I was really, really impressed. I think I've got to talk about casting because the film is really unique. And it follows the story of one guy, but played by three separate people, what was the process in finding, because they're all equally amazing. Yeah, yeah, I'm very proud of the performances. You know, it wasn't that we had like 80 hoops
Starting point is 01:05:46 that every actor had to jump through or 80 boxes they all had to check. It was more just about endurance. You know, we were looking for this feeling, you know, I knew I wanted to cast three different actors. And I wasn't so concerned with them looking alike. It was more concerned with this spiritualness, this essence, this soulfulness.
Starting point is 01:06:01 In order to accomplish that, we just had to see a lot of people. And so it was probably the longest phase, of the process of building the film was just seeing enough people that we could finally find these three guys on both sides because we do it with the main character we also do it with kevin that could carry it off and did it so well i could see automatically i was like in the eyes i was like yep yeah yeah and it's and at the top of the third chapter is jarring because you see travante roads and you think hmm is it the same guy but then he's so physically different on the exterior
Starting point is 01:06:29 but on the interior it's the same guy so i said i think i turned to my mom and went oh he's still a softie look like he's like so emotionally vulnerable exactly um and so what in because you wrote what inspired you to come up with the story is it yeah yeah so it actually it's uh it was based on uh started as a play uh by my very good friend now it's real alvin mcraney he wrote a piece called uh in moonlight black boys look blue he wrote it in like 2003 and uh i think about four years ago a mutual friend of ours because i didn't know him at the time uh sent it to me and the the connection was both our moms went through the struggle with addiction that you see played by Naomi Harris in the film. And this guy was like, I think you should read this.
Starting point is 01:07:10 I think there might be a film in it. And that was how it all started. So it's semi-autobiographical, to do with the mum? Yeah, I say for me, that part is very semi-autobiographical. I think Terrell, though, it's more his life, the story is. Well, yeah, because that was amazingly portrayed. And how, what was the, so you said 2003 was when you found the play, what was the production story like?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Did it? How long was it in? No, no, no. So he wrote it in 2003. I found it in maybe like 2012 or it found me, I should say. Okay. It was kind of like a really fortunate experience. I went to Brussels to write the script in August of 2013.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And then a few weeks later, I went to this festival in Tell You Right, Colorado, and your countryman, Steve McQueen. His film, Twelve Years of Slave, was world premiering there. And I do what you do. I tell you right. I introduce films. I do Q&A's. And Plan B was a producer of Twelve Years of Slave. And they were like, hey, we haven't seen you in a while because I made this movie in 2008 called Medicine from Mellen
Starting point is 01:08:05 college. It was like no budget feature. You're like, oh, what are you working on now? And I had the script for Moonlight. And then three years later, with playing B as producer, we premiered this film at that same festival. So it was a very privileged, fortunate experience. It organically kind of happened. Yeah, it kind of just fell together. And do you always write movies beginning with M? Is that going to be a theme? No, you know. Your thing? No, because the next thing I'm working on is Colson Whitehead's book, The Underground Railroad.
Starting point is 01:08:33 There are no M's anywhere in there. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's the different. Yeah, okay, switching out for the third time so people don't get, they can't see you coming. I like that. No, the thing that's been happening is, you know, Richard Linklater made the before sunset movies. Then I made a one night stand, medicine for melancholy. It's just walking and talking. Then Linkletter made Boyhood.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And then I made Moonlight, which is kind of in some circles consider like the black kind of boyhood. So it's, that's the one to look out for. Am I going to keep following Richard Linkletter? Actually, that's weird. My dad said that when we were watching, so I watched it with my parents. And my dad went, oh, this is a bit like boyhood. Yeah. You know, the good thing is I had written this before I saw boyhood.
Starting point is 01:09:10 It's just one of those series of fortunate incidents because I love Richard's work. So it's a compliment for sure. Well, I think it's more the, yeah, like the growing up, seeing the character over such a space of time. And did you have a, the look and the sound, like the soundtrack was amazing. And the look of the film is really, like you've really color-wise, whacked up the color. Yeah, yeah. You know, one of the cool things about the. process making this film is, you know, the cinematographer was my college roommate. You know,
Starting point is 01:09:39 he shot my first feature. We went to film school together. Both the editors also went to film school with me and the main producer, or Dela Romanski. So, you know, it was a very intimate process. And so some of these things, like the color and the sound, sometimes as a director, you imagine something that you have to explain over and over again how to translate that imagination into reality. With this case, because I knew these collaborators so well, the distance between my thoughts and the actual execution of them, it was quite short. You know, they just understood the language I was speaking. So you're right, the movie does have a very particular visual palette.
Starting point is 01:10:11 It's got a stamp on, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. And the soundscape, especially the music cues, some of those things are written into the script. I think music is very important in cinema. So I'm glad that all those things are of a piece. Especially the classical. It was such a good contrast to, like, gangland in Florida.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah, yeah. How long did it take to film? Was it the shooting while? No, the shoot was pretty fast. 25 days. Oh wow, that's really, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was pretty fast. It was 25 days in the fall of 2015.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And so, yeah, it was actually a pretty fast process because we shot the film October, November 2015, and we premiered at all you, right, August of 2016. So very compact process. I think this film is going to be absolutely, well, it is being applauded, but especially for anybody who, because there has been a number of really substantial gay love stories,
Starting point is 01:11:02 like Brokeback Bountain or that, but having from this particular part of the world and minority, it's probably even harder if you're in such a man's, yeah, such a man's gang one. No, it's interesting. Like, I think a character, like our main character, if they appear in a narrative,
Starting point is 01:11:21 they're often, you know, they're on the margins of it and not at the center of it. You know, I think the beauty of this film is, you know, it reflects the life that's where Lerle McCraney, the playwright lived. And so it's inherently intersectional, and it's inherently of the place that we said it. But what I love is I'm on Twitter, I'm on Instagram,
Starting point is 01:11:37 and people write me notes all the time. You know, people of all different shades and ethnicities, but usually like young black men, are writing me expressing, you know, how thankful they are to have the film because they've never seen themselves reflected in arts and letters. And this movie makes them feel just a little less voiceless. Yeah, it was so strong,
Starting point is 01:11:57 because I think movie has incredible power. and it is like when the Guardian of Galaxy came out so my brother's autistic and so many young autistic people said finally there's a superhero that is like me it's like very autistically very literal and seeing yourself or someone that you can relate to on screen is amazing and I was just thinking I was like I'm not I'm not a gay man but I still could empathise
Starting point is 01:12:21 and be like wow this would be so powerful for somebody who was ever in a position where they felt they couldn't be themselves and they see such strong people on stage yeah and my whole whole is even beyond that. You know, I think we, you know, I'll speak in London terms, you know, we, we sit on the tube all the time and we might see someone, uh, who looks like our main character sitting across from us or sitting next to us. And we think, oh, I can't relate to that person. My life is nothing like that person's life. And I think if you watch this movie, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:47 it's meant to, to replicate the feeling of walking a mile on our main character's shoes. And you see this person is fundamentally human, you know, they have a past. They yearn for things, you know, they hurt. Um, and I think that's those common human elements, those human emotions, you know, I think they unite us. And so as much as I want people who can see themselves in the character to see the film, I think also too, there's something there for people who are nothing like this character. Oh, yeah, no, absolutely. It was like a big, so well done.
Starting point is 01:13:13 I was like a huge, well done. I loved it. Thank you very much. Let the record show this is radio, but she like very lightly clapped her hands together. I know, I know. I don't make too much sounds. Thank you. And enjoy the rest of your time in London.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Thank you, much love. And are you hung over still from the Bafters or no? No, I think I'm all right. So that was Barry Jenkins, director, writer of Moonlight. He was so lovely. He's going to have a big future that guy. I think so. I like, yeah, really like when I met him, really young, super, I don't know what I was expecting.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Not young, but... Yeah, it's really cool, man. But, yeah, it was just so easy. And so was Terrell as well, who originally wrote the play that that movie came from. So it was super cool. Oh, you met him too? He was there? I did two different days and two different interviews. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Lucy Patterson's back in the studio. Come back. Lucy's back. Yeah. Back again. Yes. So, what has everyone been watching in this last week of February?
Starting point is 01:14:13 I actually got quite a lot of watch this week. You did? I did. Last night I saw Patriots Day. The Mark. The Mark Wahlberg-Peteerg combination. It's the story of the Boston Marathon bombings in 2013. Very recently.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yes. Now that was one of my observations. I don't, I'm not going to say it was in bad taste because he handled, Peter Berg handles a lot of true stories and disasters and things. And he handles them very well, but obviously I wasn't there. So,
Starting point is 01:14:46 you know, and there has been a bit of backlash from, from people that were there, you know. It was a horrendous thing that happened, you know. And it wasn't just telling the story of what happened on that day. it was how they eventually caught the perpetrators. I mean, obviously, it's public knowledge that one of them is still in prison and awaiting execution at the moment.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Yes. But the sheer determination and the way they found these people, you know, it was absolutely amazing. And the whole story is acted beautifully. There's real footage also spliced in there as well, you know, some TV footage and some news. pieces that went out the days after it happened
Starting point is 01:15:32 and actually when they finally catch him there's real stills of the one that was still alive that they call you know yeah as he was coming out of the boat he's edited in steals in there and it really sort of it hits you really does you know it was a horrendous thing that happened you know three people died
Starting point is 01:15:49 but the amount of injuries you know people lost limbs and things like that and like I said before you know there was backlash from from certain people and some people even decided you know I don't want to be depicted in this film at all. Some of the families and some of them.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, it came from a book that was written. I mean, I don't know how soon that book was written, you know, it is all... From one of the victims? Yeah, it all is a bit too soon, but as usual, Peter Berg and Mark Walberg, they make a good film, they do,
Starting point is 01:16:14 Deepwater Horizon, Lone Survival, which is in my top ten films of all time. I absolutely love that film. Obviously, it completely destroyed me because I cry out everything. There was interviews at the end with some of the victims, interviews with the real policeman that were there at the time
Starting point is 01:16:30 one thing that surprised me though was Mark Wahlberg I thought his character was real because he usually does portray a real person, you know, that was at the centre of the story and the hero. They said he was an amalgamation of, you know, lots of police officers that were on the scene in that and, you know, he did a really, really
Starting point is 01:16:46 good job. I would say it's not really a cinema jobby, but I would watch it because it's a history lesson and it's so heartwarming how the whole of Boston they came together and when they finally arrested the one that was still alive
Starting point is 01:17:01 as the ambulance came into the hospital there was crowds and crowds of people applauding and cheering for the police that they got and I mean that's absolutely lovely thing to see you don't really hear of that do you but it was a good film I would probably wait until it's on the TV but
Starting point is 01:17:18 definitely see it thinking I wondered that with whether or not there should be some sort of like film respect law Like an embargo for a certain amount of time. There's like a terrorist thing. You just wait one generation before you dramatize it and add the glamour of Hollywood. Because you can always make a documentary.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah, and I mean the thing is with his films is they've always got such a documentary style. There's a lot of, it looks like, I don't know whether it was, but it looks like there's a lot of handheld camera work. And it's a lot of documentary style editing and, you know, they look like they should be all over the place, but they're not. You know, he makes a really good film, but you're right. It was a bit too. Yeah, just early. I think if you just left it a generation, then it's not so,
Starting point is 01:18:01 because I was like, is it, there's other things that we can do Hollywood drama too, I think. Oh, definitely. Yeah, I just felt,
Starting point is 01:18:07 it's just been very close, isn't it? It's just like, God, that was that turnaround. I know. Well, I think I'm still living in like 2012, so it just seems so quickly.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I know, I know. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was just a bit too quick. Yeah, it wasn't too quick. So it didn't really appeal to me. Like, they're sort subjects.
Starting point is 01:18:21 I can watch, I can watch, generations and generations ago. like, oh my gosh, this was real, but nobody I know. No, anyone that was on the time. Exactly, whereas, you know, they're all still generations of their family and the people that were there are still alive, you know. He waited, I think,
Starting point is 01:18:35 about five years with Deepwater Horizon, and I think even that was too soon. Loan survivor, I think, was about eight or nine years and, you know, quite near the mark, but I think, like you said, it was another generation by then. Because these terrorists, the war on terrors, is not, if anything, is sort of slightly escalating.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I don't know if it's helping, making more movies about putting the... I think these films like this about the human story, they're about the, you know, I haven't seen this one, but you know, about the people that are affected, you know, because there's some...
Starting point is 01:19:05 Oh, absolutely. There are some sad stories in there. Yeah. They haven't made a movie about the London bombings, have they? No. No, I don't think anyone would have the bottle to, to be fair.
Starting point is 01:19:15 You know, I don't... No, I think that would be in very bad taste. But then what's the difference between... Yeah, just like, I'm thinking. One was, they're both bombings. Yeah. On those. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:24 One's at a marathon, one's on our tube system. I know. Yeah. I don't know about that. No. Okay. Have you seen anything this week, Noel? Me?
Starting point is 01:19:34 What have I seen this week? I watched Luke Cage. Ooh. Luke, what's that? Luke Cage on Netflix. Yeah. The whole show of Luke Cage on Netflix. What are we thinking?
Starting point is 01:19:43 And I, um, I was, I liked it. I liked it, but I definitely thought it was the weakest of the Marvel shows. Really? which disappointed me because it's the black show and so, you know, not that I'm just pro black all the time but I definitely wanted it to be good
Starting point is 01:20:00 and actually it was probably the weakest of the Daredevil Jessica Jones and that kind of stuff and you know, I was looking at the writing and me like, I can write better show than this. I don't know why I didn't call me. Yeah, but I haven't. Yeah, I know, but it was still good.
Starting point is 01:20:13 I still enjoyed it but I was just, you know, disappointed, you know, about that. And so, yeah, but Luke Cage is on Netflix now. So if you still like Super Euro shows, you should check that out. We've just been intercepted with a email. It says, Hey, Noel, I'd be interested to know your thoughts on Joseph Fines. Fines. Fines. I've got it right first time.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Playing Michael Jackson on the show that was banned. I'm black and I can see why people would be offended, but I wanted to make my own mind up and watch it. I've had a ponderer, and I can't think of any black actor who could have played a later Michael. Barn, Barney in London. have you actually seen the picture of him as Michael Jackson? Well, Barney It's terrible. It's bad. Well, Barney, I'm actually, weirdly, this is a bit awks.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I'm actually not allowed to comment on that, actually, because I'm actually in one of those shows. I was in the Muhammad Ali one playing Muhammad Ali on Sky. Which you can still watch on ketchup, by the way. Which you can still watch on ketchup, by the way, me playing the greatest a lot time. And so I'm actually not allowed to comment on that. I think it's one of those things that,
Starting point is 01:21:19 made a lot of noise in the press. Has it been out yet? No, they've pulled it. They completely pulled it. They pulled the whole show. Yeah. Why did they play it? Because if you'd seen, if you, I need you to probably Google it and show it.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Because Joe finds, Joe finds, plays Michael Jackson and Joe finds as a white actor and Michael Jackson was a black man. Yeah. But Michael Jackson was a black man who had white skin. I'm not allowed to comment. By the point that this was, you know, this was depicted, he had white skin. I've just seen the picture. I think probably because of the, the, the, the, the, the, you know, the,
Starting point is 01:21:49 I don't even know what to say about it He doesn't It doesn't quite They didn't quite get him No Did they? No No no
Starting point is 01:21:57 But the thing is Would it be more offensive To have a black actor With white it up Yeah Yeah Yeah well You know
Starting point is 01:22:04 No No But like No But look at it No Come on talk But it is
Starting point is 01:22:09 Hmm Because he was Obviously Michael Jackson Was black But it was also Color-wise Technically white
Starting point is 01:22:17 Well yeah I mean you. So, and he had surgery to make all his features, Caucasian. Yeah, yeah. So visually, he looks so, it makes sense that, I mean, okay, well, then why, if you can have a,
Starting point is 01:22:29 an American person playing an English or an English playing, you can play different, where you're from different places, but you can't. Okay, yeah, no, you really can't, don't you? This is like a minefield, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, okay. That's the tough one, but they pulled the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Yeah. Somebody somewhere must have a copy of that. Do you think it's going to leak out onto the internet? Surely. No, Sky would have made sure that was... Locked it down, really. We've got, hey guys, I've just got Netflix and I want to watch it all weekend.
Starting point is 01:22:58 What TV show and films do you recommend that? Sons of Anarchy. Joy, Son's of Anarchy. Joy, Sons of Anarchy. You are not going to leave your television this weekend because, firstly, Lucy's right. The Sun's on Anarchy. But if you have not seen Breaking Bad, Joy,
Starting point is 01:23:12 oh, yeah. You need to... See? You need to watch a show called Breaking Bad. That is your show That's going to be Five Three seasons And you need to watch
Starting point is 01:23:22 Breaking Bad That is the show You need to watch If you were a Netflix virgin And you're gonna pop your cherry Start with that Well actually I was doing a bit of a Netflix review
Starting point is 01:23:31 I got into the series Sense 8 Oh I always scroll past that Exactly And I heard A Menomines in that From Kidot
Starting point is 01:23:39 A great actor Yeah Yeah I heard And also Who you work with Doctor Who Girl Karen.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Frima. Frima. Yeah, Free Marjorie. That's right. So, basically, it was,
Starting point is 01:23:51 because I heard about it when I was researching, it was the same guys who wrote the Matrix, the Wechowski brothers. Yeah. Siblings. Wachowski, siblings.
Starting point is 01:24:00 The Wachowski. Yeah. Lana and Lina or something. I can't hope you with that one. I can't remember her name. I think it's Lana and Lila or Lisa. They're both ladies now. Wow.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Both ladies. and which makes sense you can kind of a lot of the stories so basically it's one of those ones it's written by The Matrix so obviously this is not one to have in the background this is one when you want to sit down with food
Starting point is 01:24:25 and stuff and like pay attention because it is quite hard but essentially it starts with this woman in a church and she's a druggie but she's also giving birth but not physically giving birth like telepathically it's this weird thing where basically you can be reborn
Starting point is 01:24:42 you can be reborn and you can be connected to eight other people in the world. So they have eight parallel running storylines. Hence the sense eight. Yeah, sense eight. And these complete strangers are linked by a telepathic bond because they're all siblings in the telepath world. So you've got a guy who's in Africa,
Starting point is 01:25:04 you've got a girl who is in China, you've got an English girl, it's all over the world. And what they can do is they have this weird experience. They don't know about the other people. They just keep suddenly one of them going, I can smell, I can smell curry. And then you'll cut to in India. And then they can also swap bodies and have an out-of-body experience. And now that they're, I've got to episode three, and now they're learning about each other.
Starting point is 01:25:28 And they're learning that they can switch between so they can help. So one guy in Africa, he had to take on a gang. And he didn't know how to fight. So he body swapped with the girl who's a cage fighter in China. And so she thought swap body. So it's kind of cool. Sounds good. Really edgy, really good actors.
Starting point is 01:25:44 So far, I'm like, I can get on board with this. I don't understand all of it, but it's a bit very matrixy. So if you like that sort of sci-fi scene. There's two seasons, I think, so far. Yeah, well, I'm starting, and I'm on the series, episode three. It's on my list. Yeah, I keep hearing about it, but. It is good, and it's a lot of money, I think, went into it.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah. You can tell. When you do sci-fi, you need to have a bit of budget. Oh, definitely. And so far, like, really good. I'm like, I love Freeman's performance. She plays this really cool American lesbian. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Yeah, she's Freeman's great, man. Her girlfriend gets sectioned and she's trying to, like, help her get her out and help her escape. Little weird fact to her that. We got married in Doctor Who and people think we're married in real life. Some people think we're married in real life. Isn't that strange? They really do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:26 They really do. Really? Wow. Oh, we've got another email coming in. So, hey, no, I'm sad you never got to be in girls. Me too. Riz Ahmed was in a few weeks ago and was amazing. Would you be up for working with Lena Dunham?
Starting point is 01:26:39 Lina Dunham, Rosie. Yeah, mate, I'm sad. I never got to me in girls. I was a big champion of girls when girls came on. I love girls and I would have loved to have been in that show. I think it's done now. Riz, I love, is a good mate of mine and so happy for him. But I would have loved to be in it. And I would love to work with Lena Dunham.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Riz Ahmed's popping up everywhere. I absolutely love him. Like a daffodil. Oh, sorry, no, carry on films or hammer horrors, which is your favourite mark? Who or Marky mate? I wouldn't say favourite because they're both very different. I guess hammer horror. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:11 You know, kind of when you watch the carry-on films now, not that I'm a PC, not that I'm not very PC. Like, I don't have to be one of those guys that everything's PC, but those films are treading a line. Yeah, they are. They're treading a line when you watch them now. So I have to go hammering. Anyway, what else did you watch, Luce?
Starting point is 01:27:25 What else you got for us? I watched The Founder. What's that? Oh, oh, that's McDonald's. The story of McDonald's. Yeah, man. Fucking tell me about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Now, I kept seeing it because I know it's been nominated for at least one Oscar. Can't actually tell you what for, but it's been nominated for at least one Oscar. It's got Michael Keating in it. Nice. And it is basically the story of how McDonald's became the monster that it is. I mean, who doesn't know McDonald's? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:49 It's all over the world. I mean, I can't remember the top statistics because I'm terrible. But, you know, it's massive. Everyone's got one of dollars in the life. I love a dirty quarter pan with cheese. Oh, me too, me too. And I'll tell you what, it was surprising. I can't really go into much of it because it'll be a lot of spoilers.
Starting point is 01:28:03 But, you know, the way it was started, you know, is this family business. It was the McDonald's brothers. And he's not one of them. He's a crocky or something, isn't he? He's a crook, Ray Crook, his name is. I've read this in Fast Food Nation. Yeah, and I knew none of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:17 I knew none of this. I was thinking, oh, it's just someone called McDonald. Yeah, and he... I thought it was Ronald McDonald's. I know, I know. And he had a milkshake company or something, didn't he? He sold, yeah, he sold the mixer, the magic mixer things that mix the milkshakes. And he went to sell them a few, and he saw this revolutionary, you know, kitchen set up that they had, you know, the original fast food.
Starting point is 01:28:37 That's where it came from. And he was like, why are you guys not... franchising this, you're absolutely mad. And he took it and run with it. There was a lot of skull dougery and a lot of cutting people out of things and, you know, it's actually quite a sad story,
Starting point is 01:28:52 you know, but a real human interest story because it's so massive in everybody's lives, I really enjoyed it. Brilliantly acted by Michael King and he was amazing. Watch it definitely. I will do. I mean, I would even say go to the cinema to see it because it's just that enjoyable. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I don't watch that. FYI didn't get any Oscar nomination, so you were? slightly incorrect there my darling misinformed whoopsie are you sure positive the producers
Starting point is 01:29:16 are in the cloud oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah it's right in front of my face oh oh well maybe I just wish
Starting point is 01:29:21 Michael Keating did because he was so good he is very good Matt Donald yeah I mean everyone remembers like McDonald's is do you know what though who honestly
Starting point is 01:29:30 doesn't like a McDonald's here in there I'm not saying it you know I'm never I'm never drawn never tempted
Starting point is 01:29:37 I could walk past a thousand McDonald's me too I could I would fall into a bakery and eat everything inside it but McDonald's, I'm okay.
Starting point is 01:29:44 I must admit, you know, even though it was quite a sad story, you know, it didn't put me off here it's maybe we want to go and get a McDonald's. Maybe you'd watch a... Straight out for a double cheese You should get a McDonald's while you're watching it. Totally. Take McDonald's in the cinema. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. In the cinema. I didn't you bear.
Starting point is 01:29:59 That's one of my favourite things to do with friends is where you eat what you watch. Yeah. I used to watch Breaking Bad and we go and get like... Crystal Myth. No. Meth was for... That was a pudding, but first we'd have chicken. We always watch the Polos-Homanus chicken,
Starting point is 01:30:15 and I was like, man, I was a fried chicken. So if you'd think they were chicken, or if we're watching a Western, we'd make, like, a stew, mashed potato. So you could eat along with what you're watching. That's such a good idea about it. We watch Mad Men with, like, cocktails and can of things and stuff. Just not a little bad idea for a little cinema chain, you know. Well, it's super geeky, but I like, you feel really involved in what you're watching because you're...
Starting point is 01:30:34 It's also where I worked out I was allergic to pistachias. Oh, excellent. What film are you watching? I was watching. and we had pistachios and cocktails. And the next thing I knew I turned around, my boyfriend was like, darling, your face. Face was like this big.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Like the big tomato out of blade. And it was red. And like, I just went to it. And he was like, don't look. Oh, no. It was huge. And I think it was a pistachia. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:59 It doesn't always go to plan that. I might bring some in next week so we can test that theory. But yeah. That's not very nice. I found that little tip bit if anyone's going out, because last week I reviewed 50 shades of darker. Yeah. Is it good?
Starting point is 01:31:12 Better than the first one, yeah. There's more story. I think anything's better than the first one. There's more stuff going on. Is it sexy? No, I was really disappointed with, um, I didn't learn anything. I was like,
Starting point is 01:31:23 this is an 18. They're supposed to be sexy though. I know, it's like, he's like, his version of bondage was, I'm going to tie your legs down. Whoa,
Starting point is 01:31:30 calm down, mate. It's like, really? Really? No. Okay. And, yeah, so, but there is an extra scene.
Starting point is 01:31:39 So, I just liked out of cinema on the way out, but everyone's talking about this whole extra montage. What, like a post-credit thing? Yeah, post-credit. I missed it. Apparently it's her in a wedding dress. Oh.
Starting point is 01:31:49 And like this whole montage thing. And it's still like, till death do us part and then boom. Drama. So if you're going to go see 50 shades darker, make sure you stay to the end to see all the extra bits and bits of the bobs. Oh, someone says, hey, hey, JJ and Noel. Shall I have a pizza or Chinese for dinner? You've made me need to take a train.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Well, depends what you're watching. Yeah. If you're watching Shanghai nights. go for Chinese If you're going to watch something in a New York Go for pizza I got to say you've got to go for pizza all day long Yeah
Starting point is 01:32:17 You've got for pizza all day long Get a nice large And if they got a deal where you get one free Get one free and have it in the morning as well In the oven In the morning Pizza for breakfast That's lovely
Starting point is 01:32:28 Go on Gavin Go on my son Get that pizza Wait the weekend is about to begin Thank you so much Lucy Next week I'm going to be going to see King Kong
Starting point is 01:32:37 Oh nice In the week Yeah we're going to end all Storms we're going to end up. We're going to aim, let's have some stormsy. Guys, have a good week. Yeah, have an amazing week on, and we're going to be back. Are you back next week, no?
Starting point is 01:32:48 I'm filming inside number nine, so I'm not sure. What's that? Am I supposed to tell you that? I've told you now. Inside number nine with Reese Shearsmith. Is that season four? Number nine, a code name for a girl? No, that's the name of a show.
Starting point is 01:33:00 It's a good show. Inside, that's like, that's... So I'll be on set. So I'm not sure if I'll be here next week. Right, okay. But maybe, maybe soon. Well, thanks. Okay, here we go.
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