Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 34 - Florence Pugh, William Oldroyd, Michael Yale, David Leopold, Jonathan Wakeham, Mercedes Grower, Shola Amoo and Tanya Fear

Episode Date: May 2, 2017

Jahannah was joined by a special co-host Alexa Wall. Michael Yale and David Leopold chatted about their show Late Company. Jonathan Wakeman and Brakes’ director Mercedes Grower chatted about the LOCO Festival. Shola Amoo and Tanya Fear from the film A Moving Image stopped by the studios. Our favourite honest film reviewer Lucy Patterson joined the girls. Jahannah also chatted to Florence Pugh and William Oldroyd about Lady Macbeth.

This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to FubarRadio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. Good afternoon. Welcome. It's Back Row and Chill. I'm here with Alexa Wall. You're back, you're back, babe.

It's Friday afternoon. Pretty much the weekend started, let's just say. And it's a bank holiday weekend as well. Again? Four day. Well, I think a lot of people have taken today off, you know. Sneaky. Four day weekend.

And it's going to be bank holiday like next weekend as well. Is it? Oh yeah, it's May. It's May, weird one. Yeah. Or at the end of May, I don't know. We're just full of bank holidays right now, which I'm not saying no to. So that's great.

Right, we've got a really packed show for you today. We've got loads of guests. We've got our resident film reviewer Lucy Patterson coming in at 530 to tell you what is hot and what is not. And we've got loads of entertainment news coming up. So stay chilled. Noel is away this week. So Alexa is filling in. I'm filling in.

I was going to say fill in his boot. Oh, please don't. Please do not even try with that. Because it's just going to come out as some form of euphemism, isn't it? I know. I've got stuck already. I was like, she's filling up in the booth with something.

No. No. No. And musically today, if you are a fan of 80s cinema, then you might be in for a treat because loads of the songs I'm doing today are classics from that era. We've had loads of requests the last couple of weeks

to get some more 80s tracks in. So I have listened and I am doing it. If you would like to get in contact with the show, then just email in chill at foobaradio.com or tweeting at foobar radio and get involved. Tell us what you're watching and what you're enjoying because word of mouth is the best one really. Pretty much, yeah. It's the best one. And social media.

Social media. Social media. Twitter. Weep us, beep us, whatever. Slapp us around the face. Whatever. Right, Pax show coming up. So I'm going to dive right in there and I'm going to go with a bit of blondie.

My home girl. Exactly. She's pretty much your like. she's my girl. She's your like vintage twin. She is, yeah. Well, I hope. Spirit animal.

Yeah, we're going to go for blondeie, call me, it's about growing chill. That's my blondey presentation for you. That was fab. If you've just joined us, it's Johanna James and Alexa Wool and we're running back growing chill today. Woo-hoo!

I think we should just get straight in there before our guests come on and talk a little bit about entertainment news, what is going on in the world of film and what's not. Go for it. Because there's not a lot of films

coming out, right? now, apart from Guardians of Galaxy. Probably the main one in the cinema yet. Haven't seen it. Going to see it... When am I going to see it? I'm not sure.

Monday. I'm taking bank holiday and I'm going to go see what's out and that was the one that popped up. But, right, so in the news, Johnny Depp, because you're a Disneyland fan. I mean, of course. Yeah. So, Disneyland,

Disney land, Disneyland, Johnny Depp surprised Disneyland people. He popped up in the Pirates the Caribbean ride. That would have scared the absolute shit out of me because I think that ride is scary anyway. Like I'm not a massive fan of

mannequins and you're going through and these really weird mannequins moving and all this. Imagine if one just moved a bit too much. Like no, oh no. Well, but then once you register that it's Johnny Depp, you're like okay, jump in my boat. No, and I'd be like why is he here? What? It's just a very weird

scenario. Well, I think it's apparently it's to do with his, obviously, he's massive financial problems and I think Disney have gone we'll check you a lot of money, mate, if you appear in our ride. So I think that's why he's dressing up forever. It's always going to pay the bills, Jack Sparrow. Well, yeah, it is actually. They're doing another film, though, and I'm like, can you just not?

But this film, for any, like, true pirate fans, it's got Johnny, not, don't I'm trying. It's got Johnny Depp, obviously, he's in all of them. But it's got Orlando Bloom and Kieran Ekeye coming back. Hang on there, coming back for it. From the original. Yeah, and the whole story is about their son. Oh my God, I did not necessarily. that. Maybe I'll watch it now.

I know. It looks really epic. Thanks for informing me. Go check it out on YouTube the trailer for the new Pirates of Caribbean because it looks so good. So, yeah, that was Johnny Depp in Disneyland. Weird. Weird. Ridley Scott has announced, well, not announced, but he has gone on the record

so he thinks that aliens are out there. Right, okay. Which makes sense. I mean, it's not new news, really, is it? I mean, people have been wondering about this for thousands of years. And yeah, yeah, it's not news that aliens are out there but Ridley Scott I mean I think we get the message

he's made so many alien films now Alien inspired films and he's got a new film Alien Covenant which is about to be dropped and he's gone on the record saying he's spoken to people at NASA and it's like a lot of people's opinion at NASA that if you look at the data it's just almost like mathematically impossible

that we're alone yeah it's like well done mate we all already think that anyway yeah so you know a bit of alien oh did you see that that film recently the well I'm going to try and say his name I can never say it oh Jesus

MN Shayam Allen Who the bloody hell is that He's the director that did like Shama hammer six cents the village Unbreakable split Unbreakable Isn't that the one that Angelina Jolie did No unbreakable is with

Oh my God Bruce Willis There we go Bruce Willis I don't know any of these films That you've just mentioned Okay well sorry so no I No, I do not know.

Please fill me in. It's M. Knight Shaiameelahan. Stop in it, tell me. I'm going to say his bloody name. He's a brilliant director and I do like his films. They're always quite dark with a massive twist at the end, like the sixth sense. Like, I see dead people.

I've never seen it. Oh my God, you totally should, but I've just ruined the ending for you. Okay. Thanks for that. But so he said that the film Unbreakable, which had Bruce Willis him, and his most recent one split,

which was James McAvoy, with loads of personalities. Oh, yeah. I actually really liked that film. Okay, well, and you have seen one of his films. Yeah, sorry, that didn't register with me. So his next film, he said, is going to be a, it's going to be a sequel to both of those films.

So he said, what people don't realize is that... Oh, of course, Jesus Christ, I've caught up with you now. Carry on, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Split and unbreakable. Because of what happens at the end of the split film. Exactly, there is the same universe. That's why I didn't understand the ending. So it's all connected, and they're going to be,

It's going to be like a trilogy. So he's like sneakily made a trilogy. I get it now. It's just like I'm going to put one out there, one out there. And then bam, here's the next one, bitches. Yeah. So it's, um, yeah, very clever, but a bit sneaky. That's a bit.

It's quite cool that to do. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think more people should make like random films and then tie them together. I mean, it would help maybe if you'd have thrown a bit of a hint. So I could have watched Unbreakable before I saw split and then maybe I would have understood it. Yeah, he's just assuming that you've already seen his like backlog of work. It's a little bit sort of self-righteous, isn't it really?

I mean, what would you see? think would be the most random films that would be announced that they're actually linked sleeping beauty and shrek that was the first thing that came to my head okay i'm thinking more like pretty woman and alien that would be a weird yeah maybe let me try and think of another one um Jurassic park and um maybe like twilight skins oh oh oh that'd be quite good twilight with it could you imagine like you're having a rave you're having a party you've had a few let's say beverages you know blah blah all of a sudden

you're like let's go outside and have a barbecue dragon dragons dinosaurs dinosaurs is what I meant dragons we can add dragons in there as well I think that'd be quite good Jurassic Park for if anyone out there has any like film ideas it'd be really weird to mash together and make a sequel of yeah please let us know I'm quite intrigued now

what would be like the two most random funniest films tweet us at Fulbar Radio or email in chill at Fulbaradio.com Um, okay-dokey. So Brad Pitt and David Fincher, who's the director of Gone Girl. Mm-hmm. Yeah. They are going to join up together, and they're going to be doing the zombie feel, the

Zombie Z sequel. World War Z. World War Z. There we go. Doesn't sound good in a British accent, does it? World War Z. Yeah, it's going to be World War Z. World War Z. World War Z.

World War Z. It's because I carry on. I've got a bit of flu brain. I don't really know what's going on right now. Well, I just called it zombie too. I don't know. But they're going to be making the sequel and everyone's getting quite excited

that David Fincher... I quite like the first one. Do you know what I did? I saw it in the cinema and I thought... And I watched it recently. I think it's on Netflix now. Yeah, is yeah. And I was like, this is not bad for like a Friday night.

Just, you know... It's all right, isn't it? It's great. Yeah, good film. Good film Brad. So they're making another one. But did you know a little factoid about that that they filmed this entire epic ending

to World War Z? Right. Which was in Moscow. It's going to be in the Red Square in Russia. And they filmed it and they finished the movie and it cost quite a lot of money and then they did preview screenings

and everyone went brilliant film shit ending. So they said for a few months later they went sorry well Brad was the producer so Brad probably said sorry guys we've all got to come back and we've got to reshoot the end

which is why the film is like super high budget until the last 20 minutes and then it just goes into like six actors in a science centre in Wales because they had no money so it goes from like super big budget

and it ends on like a shoe string and that was because it was on a shoestring and it was a reshoot. Oh my god, I did not know that. I wish they would release the film with the original ending option on the DVD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe they have, correct me if I'm wrong. But I really want to see the big Russian fight version.

But isn't that weird how... It's a bit weird. The entire ending of the movie just rewritten and re-shot. You know, it's quite a good thing that it worked because then you've got another one like suicide squad that just failed epically. but the editing of that was horrendous. Whoever edited that? Go home.

It's just they obviously had to reshoot half the film. Oh they did, didn't they? Yeah. And they cut like half the Joker. Yeah, they just didn't do it right at all. So World War Z actually worked out quite well, but anyway, I went on a tangent there. They saved it. Right, we've got more entertainment news coming at next. I'm just going to pop

along to our next 80s. What is it? Oh, I don't know. There's so many amazing 80s tunes. I'm going to be less like dancing. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm going to go a bit of foot loose. Got to have a bit for it. Yes. This is Kelly Luggins from obviously...

Good choice. The film footloose. Better Ro and Chill. And Chill with Johanna James and North Clark on Fubar Radio. You are listening to Fulbar Radio's Back Row and Chill. Film review, entertainment show thing. Words of Wisdom from a Lexa Wall. As well.

Just throwing in on the side. Agony Ant. Well, we're talking all things. Entertainment Newsie right now. So we were just talking about Brad Pipp. hit, like, teaming up with David Fincher. I'm supposed to say tag teaming, but that's not really quite... Oh, dear.

No, no, no, no, not that kind of movie. To make the... Oh, dear. I keep calling it zombie too. That's what I've written it down as. World War Z. World War Z to sequel. So that's going to be quite cool.

Are you fan of zombie films? I mean, sure. Do you know what? The thing about... The thing I liked about World War Z was the fact that the zombies were so epically fast that he really did. like made you shit yourself because normally zombies you think oh it's fine they only

they only crawl like and you're like I can get away from them that's fine I can outrun them you know for sure no and then Bobbizu came along and went no I'm dead I'm dead I'm dead I'm dead I'm dead so I'm I'm excited for that but it's gonna be a while in the making because they're not starting filming until next year what's been doing oh

they've announced the final Star Wars movie of the trilogy oh for God sake you're not a Star Wars fan I hate it have you seen it no that's why you don't like it It's so annoying. I challenge you. I'm going to dare you to watch the brand new Star Wars.

It's so good. I don't care. You stubborn little shit. You would like it. So the next one's called The Last Jedi. And then the final movie. I am your father. That's what happens really, isn't it?

In the original movies. Sorry, carry on. And, well, this one's great. It's all about like a girl gets to be like the last. The last Jedi, well, maybe the last Jedi ever. It's all kick-ass and cool, and she's very cool. Do you know what I heard? What?

Harry Stiles auditioned for the Young Hans Solo role. I did hear that, and he didn't get it. Nope. Nope. It went to, I forgot his name, but someone else who does look quite good. Oh yeah, who is it? We need to Google that. Yeah, I don't know.

We're going to find out who is the new Han Solo, but it was not Harry's self. It's not, unfortunately. I don't think that... I would have seen it if it was him. For sure. But I think Harry Stiles, because he's such a popular. pop star. Yeah.

You're never going to be able to see him as anything but that you're going to keep expecting him. You would have thought that about Emma Watson. Because she's Hermione through and through, but now she's Bell. I still saw her as in minding. I didn't. I did. I don't know how she got away with that. You know, he'd be like hands solo going through the Star Wars galaxy and then you'd just

be expecting him to go, that's what make you beautiful. And I just wouldn't buy into it. So, and no. But. That was brilliant. For anyone who is the Star Wars fan out, it. The last film has been announced and its release date is going to be the 24th of May 2019. So make sure you put that in your diary because it's literally over two years away.

Thank God for that. But bloody hell, you know, they're going to be Star Wars fans. I was going to be like booking. I tell you what, I went to Disneyland about two days ago. Half of Disneyland now is about Star Wars and I'm very annoyed by it. Because it's Sydney? Yeah, it wasn't. I was like, why could they not have bought the rights to like Anastasia?

You know? But no, no, they bought Star Wars instead. Well, I am a huge fan So we go... No, it's good. It's good we've got opposing views. Yeah, it is. Because we can represent...

What do you guys think of Star Wars? Is it a yay or a nay? Well, I'm going to get a lot of hate now, aren't I? Tweak us at Food Bar Radio. Who's right? Is it me or Alexa? Me. Team Alexa.

Or team Johanna, let us know. Oh, okay, more Disney. So obviously they're doing live action Lion King. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, they're making a live... Well, they're making live action everything. A live action Lion King? The next one is going to be live action Lion King.

Okay. And Seth Rogen is rumoured to now be playing Pumba! Hmm. Which I think fits. I think he's a good. That does fit. I think he's a good Pumbra. I don't know how I'll feel about live action Lion King though.

I don't know how they're going to do it. Well, they can't really use Lions. Is that going to have to be CGI? Yeah, I think it's going to be like a jungle book scenario. Yeah. They're going to be doing Lion King, but it must be. Yeah. Oh.

I thought I'd be more excited about that, but no. I don't know how they're going to get. But, you know, I do love, you know, I love. I love all that. Goona, Madonna. I mean, Seth Rogen will be quite good. And Seth Rogen will be amazing. So that is the latest news hot off the press for the casting of the Lion King.

And Frozen, if anyone's a Frozen fan. I know that a lot of moms out there are like, thank the Lord. Like two hours a day that my child just doesn't like touch me. Frozen sequel is going to be coming out. But again, not until the 27th of November 2019, which is like over two and a half years away. Yeah, that's quite a long time for a sequel for Frozen. I mean, I thought they'd already started making. it. I thought they'd be on that shit.

Yeah. Because that is like billions and billions of dollars. I mean, I'm not, I don't want them to rush it by any means because it's not my favourite Disney film in the world, but you know it's like, don't take, you know, don't rush it, but don't take that much time. Yeah, it's a bit too long that. Because all the kids who like the original Frozen are going to have their own kids and they'll be like,

well, you know. Well, I mean, it is only two years. Well, at the rate that young people get pregnant nowadays, you never know. Right, so up next we've got our first guest in the studio. It's Michael Yale. and David Leopold. And they're going to be talking to us about our new play, Late Company at the Finsborough Theatre.

So it's all very exciting. I love a bit of theatre. Right, so today, if you've just joined us, we are playing all things, kind of 80s soundtrack. We're going to go back to the, like, 80s vibe. So I'm going to go for Rhythm of the Night by DeBorge now, which actually featured, not only... He's in the rhythm of the night.

Is that what you meant? No, wrong song. Oh. You're going to listen to this and be like, what? Jesus. This is the original rhythm of the night, but it did feature, the latest Ghostbusters movie

last year. It's a boogie. Get ready. We're going to be doing like our lungers, getting ready for the Friday night dancing. Because I'm going out tonight, so I'm going to go lunch. Me too. Let's go and lunge in the studio. You guys at home. Wine! We're going to speak to our guest soon. And chill

with Johanna James on Fubour Radio. You're listening to Back Road and Chill. It is Friday. It's the 28th, right? I have no idea. I have no idea. I just realized I went off the computer but I don't trust computers that much. I should really know this. Anyway, we've joined in the studio by our first guest, so welcome, welcome, welcome.

Hi, hello. Hello. It sounds like there's more of us. There's just too. A legion of people have just come in. Jonathan, no, not Jonathan. Michael Yale and David Leibon. Do you know why?

The producer was like, Dinox, call them Jonathan. So Freudian slipped that in. Well done. What a mess. Right, anyway, welcome, guys. You want to introduce yourselves and sort of what we're here to talk about. Yeah, well I'm Michael Yale and I'm directing

a late company which is a play at the Fimbra and we open this week I'm David Leopold and I'm an actor in the show It's like so shy and I'm an actor You could be like and I'm an actor I think there are too many of us doing it I like it so it's very humble It's good, it's good

So the play immediately I read this sort of synopsis about it You're probably going to word it better than me So if you want to tell everyone at home what a what the play is about? I try not to give too much away but I think you have to really say what it's about and it's about a couple

whose son has taken his own life and it's a year later and they want to move on and put their ghost to rest and so they arrange a reconciliation meeting which takes apart over a dinner party

with the parents of the lad who they think was the lead bully. So everybody comes forward to have a reconciliation dinner party. It kind of sounds like,

I could be very wrong here, it sounds like a cross between 13 reasons why and in spectacles. That's a good show. I just started watching. Oh yeah. Well, immediately when I read it,

I went, oh, I'm watching 13 reasons why. And that is like everyone's talking about it for good reasons and bad. It's very on point. It's very on point. So this play is very current. It's the European premiere. So it was written

a few years ago and it's Canadian so we're giving it it's European premiere okay oh so is it set in Canada or like we look at it Ontario oh I used to live in Ontario yeah when I was really little oh I did not know that yeah that's five all my like old VHS is me like

mommy yeah I do like Canada you'd have to listen to his accent and tell us oh what's your Canadian accent like we have to come and see it oh that was a good one so who do you play I play the a classmate of the boy

who took his life who is accused of being his main bully tormentor. So he comes over you know to the house with his parents so yeah and it's all in real time and they eat dinner and you're

right. So you're literally just like a fly on the wall at this dinner party this intent drama that's I'm getting feels so it is good and it is so current because I do think one of the great things about 13 reasons why is it's getting people talking about sort of bully culture and about how bullying has evolved like I was talking to my friend the other day saying I don't know

if I would survive school nowadays with all of the messages. It's like social media really isn't it? Yeah, the pressure of social media on such young people. We had some people come to see the show recently and they really understood what was going on and they'd be bullied at school and they said the thing is now you can't leave it at school because you go home. and you're on social media and you're still getting bullied so there's no hiding from it anymore yeah for sure it's um it it is like i'm so glad that i almost grew up without that happening and now it's just social media is you can look at it sort of through adult eyes and it's a little bit more you still get bullying even when you're adult i'm not saying it's just the kids like people can be mean and troll people all over the place

but it's particularly dangerous when you're younger i think you tend to be more you know impulsive and you're discovering things about you know how the world works and the first The great thing and a bad thing as well about technology is that it allows easy access to so many things, but it allows that trigger finger is so easy, you know. So it's just that much more hard to control, I think. Yeah, I saw a play at the Hampstead, I think a year ago, two years ago, and it was about not as serious, not as deep as a death, but it was about how social media, more like revenge porn.

for, can really affect people. And it was about this boy. And at first you were on the, the boy side. And then when you sort of, it was the two families and how this couple, young couple, and the revenge porn situation, going around the internet and going viral and all this sort of stuff. And by the end of it,

you sort of you realized that you were more on the girl's side than the boy's side. It was such a good switch. But it did make me think, oh, I'm so glad that plays are, to be young people out there who maybe think that the theatre isn't for them, or it's not relevant. Like, there is drama, there's stories that is just about your life.

Well, we had the second night, we had 20 young people, uh, not quite sure what country they're from. They had English as second language and they were, you know, took over one bar of seating and they didn't move. They were just completely hooked. It was really cool. And then behind them, they had women of a certain age who were the moms who, again, you know, they're really brought into it and were,

because it's my mesmerized. Yeah. As much as it's about bullying, I think it's also about parenting and how well do you know your kids? And, you know, so I think... What they get up to? Yeah, exactly. And, like, how do you want to that? You know, how do you deal with that?

It's a difficult question. It's such a hard one because, like, my mum, she types with one finger and doesn't know how to open, like, basic... Like, her phone rings and she'll ask a stranger. Excuse me, can you help me off? Like, which button, which button? So it is quite hard for anybody who is growing up. I'm trying to think of, and technology is only going to speed up, and it's only going to be more.

And now there's, like, how many platforms that young people can be on as well. So, but when we were growing up, what, there was like on MySpace, and Facebook was new. There wasn't that many. And then now... I loved that. We don't. Just thought I'd lighten the mood a bit there.

Bebo! If anyone still on Bebo. Yeah. Tweet us at Feebo Radio. Is it gone? Is it totally dead? No, it's come back. I think they've tried to launch it.

again as like some site button nobody knows that and it's failed I never have deactivate same with Myspace I don't think they're out I might still have my MySpace oh my God I still have my space

yeah floating around there with like emo photos and everything bad times we'll just leave that back in 2003 but anyway back because the video was just listening

now like what are they talking about we're talking about the new play called late company and where is it where is it being shown it's at the Fimbra and the Fimbra Theatre

in that was cool Earl's Court. It is Elscourt, but it's just kind of further down. Because I hadn't heard of Finbra. I was like, where's Fimbra? Yeah, it's not far from Elst Court. Oh, it's in London? Okay, brilliant. Yeah, between Arthcourt and West Brompton Station. Yeah, how long's the run for?

A whole month. Okay, okay. Which seems a long time, but it's actually quite short. So if you want to get your tickets, where would they go to get tickets on the... On the Fimbra Theatre website. Yeah, they're online, but they are selling out really fast. Well, I'm sure. It's such an awesome.

Very fast, actually. And just as a, as the backstory. I love the stories of how plays and films come to be made and come to be on the stage. So how did you find it or come across it and think, yeah, I want to do this? I've been working with a producer called

Arlene Davidson and we were looking for a project last summer we'd just done a project and just read dozens and dozens and dozens of plays. I'd worked on Canadian drama before so I was looking at new Canadian theatre and new Canadian writers. Came across this guy called Jordan Tannahill, Red Lake Company. Game over.

Boom, that's it, it's for me. I have to have it. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm just so pleased. It's on and I'm directing it. And how did you get involved? I was asked to audition, thankfully. Just got it through as Perth from my age,

and then I got the script on the Friday and was just blown away. I was just one of the best scripts I'd read in such a long time and really exciting kind of thing to be involved in. remember the auditions being, I had such a good time. And I could just tell that it was going to be handled in a good way. And then I got a call saying, yeah, we want you on board.

And I was over the moon. Where were you when we got the call? I was lying in my flat, in bed in my flat, and I got the call from my agent. And I literally did a little dance. I'm told you this. I literally, I was in bed. And then I jumped up and did like, I don't think I've ever reacted like that. Yeah, I did like a big dance.

There's no dancing in the show. clip, yeah, you've got it all out your system. I think, well, apparently, I've spoken to a lot of fellow actors and they've said that the best part of a job is the moment that you get the job. Like, that cool. And then, yeah, it's interesting.

And, well, maybe they're saying that at the end of a long day of a shoot, like, this is exhausting. But it is at that moment of saying that you got it, you won. And then it's like, yay, okay, now I actually have to do the job. Crang! Now I have to go on stage. I was going to say, it probably wouldn't be mine

because it's quickly followed by, you know, the realisation. The realisation, you know. But I think, yeah, I can totally see why, but it's probably very quickly by, okay, get to work. The cast are all really close as well. It's quite dark, but there's humour in it as well. Okay, yeah, good. Yeah, you have to.

And as an ensemble, because it is an ensemble piece, they've all just gelled and protect each other because it's quite dark in parts, but have a laugh. And how, have you gone public yet? Yeah, yeah. We had two days of previews, and. Is it only our fourth? Yeah. Two days of previews and a press night last night and a press night tonight. Oh, exciting.

And the reviews have just come out. Okay. Don't read them. Well, you've got to read them, but it's also like... Red them. Oh. Radim. So people don't like it, um, because they feel like I can mess with their head a bit.

But that's good. Yeah. I think that's good. Yeah. Yeah. I think, yeah. I think if you let other people's words affect you that bad, then maybe you shouldn't read them. But for me, I'm kind of quite good.

It's brain. Yeah. They're good. They're good. that also helps which is brilliant and I always just like to ask because it's my favourite thing

when stuff goes wrong or like backstage have you guys had anything how have you kind of has anything majorly gone wrong yet no but I always think some of the best moments on stage are when things go wrong

because then you have to collectively as a cast invest in still telling the story and the audience don't know what story you're going to tell so there's an incredible I think you know I've had moments on stage when like, you know, something goes wrong or say someone in the audience drops something.

And I think it's really important as the actor to, you've got to judge it, but sometimes if you are alive to that and then the audience see that you take them in the same space, it's so exciting. There's so many, people are drinking all the way through the play. It looks like wine. And our stage manager has to make a cook and meal every night

because they have to sit down to dinner. Oh, yeah. So there's going to be one night, but something's going to go there. Yeah, potentially, yeah. There's lots of, like, eating and things. So, you know, sometimes, you know, one of the actors were saying that you had, like, something stuck in his throat. You're supposed to be saying some really important stuff.

So he's kind of, like, trying to go. And at the same time, he's like, um, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah, real food problems. Yeah, food acting. It's tricky. It's problematic. And you should keep Rennies to hand. Yeah.

Emergency hymics offstage. Emergency aspirin. Yeah. All right, brilliant. Yeah. And in sort of like your previous work, because a couple of times I've spoken to sort of actor friends and they've said about these fantastic stories

of when stuff goes wrong, and they've had to try and cover it. Especially in a Shakespeare. I was like, what do you do if something goes wrong in a Shakespeare? How do you cover that up? And someone said that you're supposed to turn to whoever is on stage. And so, and therein lies the end and, like, walk off stage. And then you leave it with them.

Yeah. You know, because we're right by the Pleasance. And in my third year at Lambda, we did Midternight's Dream there for a graduating show. And I mean, we had this schooling, and a lot of them are on their phones and stuff during the show. And I was saying bottom, there's a bit when he comes on with his ears. And it's like, and everyone runs away from him, and they go, you know, and then he says, like, why do they all run away? And this little girl on the front row on her phone, just, she must have been like 12. She didn't even look up.

She just went, your face. and then I just But luckily the next line And this is why Shakespeare was so brilliant Because I think originally It's written for people to heckle To heckle. Yeah, yeah, it's shout to foul. So, you know, and the next thing you say

says, no, no, this is all trick They're playing a trick on me. So I was able to just play it to her and keep going But that was absolutely hilarious And stuff goes wrong, it can be wonderful. Yeah, it can go right. Or, you know, the stage can fall off But, you know, do it to their own.

Well, thank you so much. If anyone's just joined us, we're going to recap again. about late company, a new play, isn't it? New Canadian? It's new for Europe, so it's a few years old, and it won all sorts of awards in Canada. And yeah, we're going to give it.

We're giving it. It's European. It's on in London. So check it out in the, what was the theatre? Finbara. The Fimbra. I want to say Farnbra. No, don't go to Farnbra.

We're not there. Fimbra in London. Ellscore. Elscore. It's not that far. West. It's only West. It's fine.

Thank you so much for coming in, guys. Thank you. Now, we're going to go back to some more of our 80s. classics. I think I'm going to do a bit of Bonnie Tyler now. Just to go for it. Let's really go for it. Let's rank it up. You know what's going to be? Yeah. I've spotted it. And chill with Jehanna James

on Fubour Radio. Welcome back. This is Backrow and Chill with Jehanna James. I was having a right. Cuffle. I'm Alexa. Hi. I sat on my shirt again and I was like, but I'm okay. Hi everyone. I'm glad there's cameras in the studio. We have all of this documented. Right. We've We've got our second guest in the studio, so a huge welcome.

Jonathan Wakeham and Mercedes grower? Grower. Grower. I just like, I go with a name and I just try and if not. Sorry. Hi everyone. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hello.

And you're here to talk about the loco film festival. Absolutely. Very pleased to be here. Thank you. And that's like London's Comedy Film Festival, which I have to admit I hadn't heard of before. So I'm really interested about what it is and what's going on. So if you want to... Yeah.

Absolutely. It's London, well, it's Britain's only international comedy film festival. So we source the world for the most original and unexpected comedy films. And it's really a celebration of the craft of comedy filmmaking. Making comedy films is much harder than making normal films because you have to do the story, the characters, the plot, the twist, the surprises, and then the jokes. So it's like doing 150% of the job. And yet, if you do it well, it looks really, really easy. So we felt it was really important to celebrate the craft of comedy to recognize the talent to do it

because again, people who make comedy that tend not to get the Oscar nominations, the Oscar nominations always go to the sad, the important, the tragic films. Whereas the ones who make you laugh, Bill Murray does not have an Oscar. What kind of world is this? I've actually never thought about that.

That's actually outrageous. We should start, hashtag Bill Murray for the Oscar. Get Bill Murray an Oscar. I mean, or a knighthood or a sanderhood. that would be great either or all of the above will do thank you very much I love that because I am

at comedy actress as well and I find that yeah it's very very hard and people they kind of expect you okay be funny keep being funny and it's like actually it's a craft and sometimes you're not very funny and sometimes you are and I think it's really great that we're going to be celebrating this so where can people go if they want to

like yeah I'm done for some comedy where would they find this? We will be a BFI South Bank from the 4th to the 7th of May, so that's next Thursday to next Sunday. And it's four packed days of comedy films training for young filmmakers. We've got silent films with live music.

We've got a first ever baby premiere, which is amazing. We will have babies on the red carpet. No way. The London Comedy Film Festival. That would be amazing. What are you wearing? What diaper are you wearing?

I'm like, you're seeing the interviews as well. So that's, yeah, it's going to be, and it's the sixth year So it's always a joy to be back at BFI South Bank It is the most beautiful cinema in London This gorgeous location I want to come down and interview a baby That would be amazing Oh do, come along

Come along and they'll be wearing little bow ties So if anyone was out there go Oh I make comedy films and I'd like to be involved in this How do you find the films and select them You have to submit them? We, yes, we have an open submission system So we, but in about June, between about June and October, we are open for people to send us their short films and features. We've always been championing new British talent that's been right the way three.

So we have three programs of short films. We have a program of online comedy. We have a thing called the Discovery Award every year, which is for a new independent British comedy. So that's again, that's about people. I mean, for us, the excitement is to be able to put people's low-budget, independent, homemade, home-grown, hand-made films on the, the same big screen as Oscar-winning films, big budget films, films with marketing budgets. Yeah. So that's always been really important to us.

And then we also now have a program called the Betty and Peter comedy writing program. Actually, you should enter. It is great. So that is a program where, thanks to the Cinema on Television Benevolent Fund, we are able to fund new and emerging writers from any background, anywhere in the country, whatever kind of person you are. you know with as little experience as as you may have you can send us your

comedy ideas and what we are able to do thanks to this charity is to give them £10,000 and script editor work with so it's really about just helping people to find their voice giving people the time and the space to find their own unique voice in comedy and that's also in partnership with Big Talk which is an amazing

obviously production company who made all of Edgar Wright's films and most of your favourite TV comedy as well. So that talent development thing is absolutely the heart of the festival for us. That's amazing. Because I used to have this, so I've been doing comedy for about a year before I was like, no, I just want to be in downtown abbey. I'm a serious actress.

I'm a serious actor. And then someone sort of sat me down and went actually like, there's like, no offence, so there's hundreds of you trying to do that, but there's not that many girls trying to be funny. So maybe you should like switch it up and go that way and you're always like falling over stuff so just, you know, be yourself and

go down that route. So I did, but it was really hard at first to actually be brave enough to put down my ideas onto paper or onto like, you know, computer nowadays, and actually be brave enough to write that down. And so that sounds something, I'm just feeling like there might be a couple people out there who goes, well, I feel like I could write something funny, or I've got some stuff, I've written some stuff, but I don't know where to take it, where to put it. So this sounds really up my street. I mean, all of, well, we had four, we were able to give money and support to four people

this year. All of them were women. Oh, fantastic. Because I think women, you know, women have to have something interesting to say, right? Men do pub banter. Women tend to write comedy that's about something. That's very true. It's about what they're interested in. It's about what they're learning.

It's about what they're reading. There's real content. Again, if you look at stand-up, if you think about people like Sarah Pascoe, Josie Long, visit city, you know, people, they're writing and performing work that's about really important, interesting things. Yeah. Well, I was like, I'm thinking, so I, if anyone does a know, listeners here, I think it's really ironic. I'm a radio show host and I am registered partially deaf. I'm hard of hearing.

And I find, and I wear aid and everything. But the sort of the awkward moments that come up in my life because of wearing a hearing aid and because of being partially deaf is actually hilarious. And every time I tell people the story, they're like, you need to like write that down or you need to put it on something. So I think that's where I'm going to start. I'm going to start with my deafness. Please do. and I'm going to make something funny out of it. But it's a really good point.

And I think we always talk about comedy being a safe place for dangerous ideas. And I think what comedy can do is it overcomes people's awkwardness. Comedy is a way, I mean, it's how we can talk about things that are difficult or awkward or embarrassing or things that people might be afraid to ask you directly. By talking about it in comedy, it says we're all welcome, right? We're all flawed. We all make mistakes. We all get embarrassed. Comedy is a safe space when we can admit all of the things.

that we're afraid of and we can talk about them openly and I think that's the magic of comedy yeah if you think about comedy films that's the thing because the heroes of comedy films they tend not to be you know they're not superheroes they're not amazing detectives they tend to be people who have messed up in their lives some way and I think that's why comedy

is this place where we can all secretly admit that the things that we've screwed up in our lives and we can talk about them openly and honestly in a shared safe space and that's what I think is the magic of So the Loco Festival, just in case anyone's joined us now, we're talking about the London Comedy Film Festival going on with the BFI, the BFI, from next week, from the sixth? From the fourth to the seventh. Thursday, the fourth to Sunday.

Around the sixth, that was the kind of right. That's okay, break is on the sixth, so. And just sort of personally, do you have any sort of highlights of the festival that you personally would just be like, oh, definitely, I'd like, this is my most my favorite film, or do you have anything that you'd like to particularly shout out? Well, the very talented writer to director sitting next to me will tell you all about her film in a moment. I think, I mean, other highlights for me, I think the closing film of the festival this year, which I think, again, coming back to what you're saying about deafness, is a film called Every Brilliant Thing. It's adapted from a hit play that was played around the world.

It's a show about a young man growing up with a mother who is suicidal. Again, very, very difficult subject to talk about. And yet, Duncan McMillan, the writer and Johnny Donahoe, who's the co-writer and perform, have made a film that is so warm and so accepting and so beautiful and so tender that it creates this, again, a safe space to talk about something that's difficult and awkward. So I think it's a really, really special film. They've really captured Johnny's performance and Johnny and Duncan are coming to talk about it after the film. So that's absolutely right. So that's on the Sunday the 7th at 6pm. I think another highlight for me is a film called The Other Side of Hope

which again this is a difficult subject. It's a Finnish film. It's made by the great director Aki Karasmaki. It's about a Finnish travelling salesman and his relationship with a young Syrian refugee. And so again, this is a film about the Syrian refugee crisis. If that was made as a documentary, it would win many, many awards.

Yeah, and about eight people would go and see it. If you make it as a comedy, as this beautiful, warm, compassionate film, think it can find a really big audience. And again, it opens up a space for people to talk about this issue in a way that takes it out of the politics, it takes out of left and right and the kind of structures of the things and just to think about things on a very human level. So I think definitely those, but I'm sure my friend next to me will have another pick of the festival to talk about. I want to see both of those.

And the Finns are really funny. And so Mercedes, your film, yes. What's that about? kind of breaks is a yeah it's a quite it's so weird having these earphones on breaks is a weird film

it's a sort of upside down version of love really and breaking up with people it's filmed the breakups are first about nine couples who split up with each other around London

and you see their breakups wow first oh and then like rewind on the yeah oh that's good so you sort of end on a high yeah

yeah yeah wow and is that based on real breakups that happened because that would be interesting no actually because one keeps asking me that they weren't but then I was just saying

a friend of mine said oh maybe they're all you but they're not they're not all me at all subconscious you yeah to me stalking people no no they weren't I was just trying to find really sort of I was just thinking about how many ways you can break up with somebody and

different just lots of different types of people and then sort of also weaving it into London as well and as part of it. Sounds fantastic. I mean, breaking up with people, yeah, again, it's one of those subjects, it's horrible, it's heartbreaking, it's like grief. But it's funny. But it can be

hilarious. It can be really, really funny. And there was a girl, I think, she was breaking up with her boyfriend, having a huge row with her boyfriend in the middle of the streets of London. And a casting director happened to see this and was like, amazing, can I give you you're perfect for this project. And I think she ended up being the girl in

hard candy. No, it wasn't hard candy. Fish tank. Fish tank. Yeah, the girl in fish tank. Andrea Arnold. Having a huge row with their boyfriend. Yeah.

You are perfect for my role. Yeah. So now I, you know, I just like pay people to have arguments with me around Soho just in case. That's the thing. I think it's a really universal. Everyone's had a breakup.

So it's, they seem so individual when they happen. Like you're in this tiny bubble. Yeah. And so everybody, it's universal. We all have them. Yeah. And also I feel like you're a bit out of time with the world.

Like they're having that argument in the street. Everything else doesn't exist. That's very true, actually. When you're having that round. You don't give a shit. I mean, you could say anything and be completely insane in front of someone. And I like that because it's sort of you're stepping outside of yourself without realizing it. Yeah, it's like a weird dance, isn't it?

Yeah. Everyone has the moves because they're going to be doing. Yeah, like I love all those old-fashioned dances. You know, in the can. can they have them I come on the boy they're called where they fight they fight and dance at the same time spicy it's passionate isn't it's passion yeah it's fashon brilliant so what's the name of that film if anyone wanted to go and which one my one yeah yeah what is it um brakes but it's breaks like the brakes of a car oh but also could also play on breaking yeah because it's it's also the whole

idea that it's uh you know you get back on that you something goes wrong but you try again like that's, you do keep going round on the merry ground so it is a bit of a stop start on each relationship. Get back up again. What's the thing plenty more fish in the sea and all that what everyone says which doesn't mean shit all when something happens you're like but I want that fish yeah exactly. I want exactly that fish

was for me but you know oh that sounds absolutely amazing. I think the other thing I would say just because Mercedes is a very good direction but quite modest about her talent is that I mean one of the I mean Breaks is nominated for our discovery award alongside Mindhorn and to Chabby Funny.

And I think one of the reasons that her film really stood out is that she coaxes these very, very unexpected performances from some very familiar names. And her cast list, I luckily have it written down. It is, I mean, it's Julian Barrett and Noel Fielding. So both of the Mighty Boosh appearing in a film. I think probably for the almost first time they've been in a film together in different relationships.

Yeah. And Steve Orham and Paul McGahn and Kerry Fox and Julia Davis and Peter White who's currently in Hamlet at the Armada doing amazing work and Roland Gift and Seb Cardinal and Kate Hoddy. This is the most extraordinary cast and I think what Mercedes has done is to really encourage these kind of big name actors

to do something we haven't seen them do before. Yeah. And it's a really remarkable achievement. I'd be interesting to see definitely Northfielding doing something outside the kind of... Hello? That was my impersonation of Noel. What? What? He doesn't eat. He's just kind of, Noel Fielding, I just picture him, I just picture him laughing.

Oh, he's ace. No, he's really, I do love him, but. He's really brilliant in this, and actually he's, I mean, he's really funny as well, but he's actually, he's acting quite serious as well as being funny in this, yeah. He's quite psycho in it. Surprise, and it? No, but not, but not in a fluffy way. Yeah, he's great in it.

Oh, amazing. Well, I'm getting the feels about this one of all about. That sounds fab, so when is that being screened? When can we come and watch it? That is on Saturday. 6th of May at 10 past 6 in NFT 1, which is the big screen at the BFI. The big screen.

Well, that's in my mind. Directly before breaks actually is one of the other discovery films. It's a film called Chubby Funny, which is about two young actors struggling to make it in London, which I think is probably a familiar story to many of your audience, and probably half of us in this room at least, which is another first-time director,

very low-budget film, very original film. Again, I think what's actually really striking in the six years we've run this festival is how supportive comedy performers and writers are of each other. So, I mean, Mercedes has this extraordinary cast in her film. Harry Michelle's film, Chubby Funny. You know, he's got him and his mates because that's how you make your first film. But Alice Lowe is in it, Julian Ryan Tuttle is in it, Anna Maxwell Martin is in it. So again, you've got these kind of big names really supporting new talent.

And I think that's the lovely thing about comedy is you know, is I think there's a real level of support and community between their kind of, you know, familiar faces and the new people coming in. Definitely. You should always put your hand down to help the next person up, always. Because that's how anybody starts. It's just you get a little, you know, you meet someone, you get a little help. Oh, I should intro to you to this person.

So pass it on, people. Pass on the love and the support. That's brilliant. Well, thank you so much. That is the Loco London Comedy Film Festival, which is next week at the BFI Southbank. So get on the... It's localfilmfestival.com. So just type that in.

It's all there. And I think it's payday this weekend, so there's no excuse not to buy a ticket for that. This is brilliant. Thank you so much, guys, for coming in. Thanks, great. Absolutely pleasure. Really nice to meet you both. We are playing 80s tunes this week.

Please, can you play the Goonies? The Goon. Okay, all right. Cindy Law for the Goonies, because Alexa has requested it. This is Back Row and Chill. And Chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. Well, first of all, all over London, I'm seeing you, your face. Yep.

It's fun bumping into me. Have you had that experience? Have you had... I actually was on a train and I came into the station and I was like in line with my face and I just looked down on head because I didn't want anybody to go,

oh! I'd be like... It's so embarrassing. I tried to do the selfie, but then someone looked at me weirdly so I ran and... No, I don't want to be taking a selfie with myself. Who did that selfie with the dog's face?

Someone did that. Oh, with the filter? Yeah, they put a filter. It's like they were the dog and you were a dog. Probably one of my mates. One of your mates. I was really, actually, with the poster.

So I saw the poster and first I thought, oh, is it Shakespeare? What is it? So just for our listeners, a quick synopsis of what this film is about. It's not Shakespeare. No. The reason it's called Lady Macbeth

is because she acts a bit like the lady from the play, Shakespeare. Lady Macbeth. The play Macbeth. Sorry, I'll start again. It's not Shakespeare. It's called. It's called Lady Macbeth because Catherine is a bit like the character from the play that people know Macbeth.

But really it's because she's a young woman, well, you take over it. She's a young woman who's trapped in a loveless marriage, right? She's married into this household to a man who's twice her age, and she's told to never go out, to not see anyone. She's given nothing to do, and she basically starts getting a bit rebellious. And there you go. What is I really like about this? It's a period drama, but it's unlike sort of any period drama that I've seen.

It's dark and passionate and, because I think some people don't give, I love period dramas, don't get me wrong. I'm like downtown Abbey all the way. But this one is just another level. It's like it's darker and more modern, but just set in the past. It's super relatable. So just in terms of sort of how it came about, how did the seed start for this film? It started with Alice Butch who wrote the screenplay. And I met for a cup of coffee and then she gave me this book, Lady Macbetham Betts,

which is the book which we adapted the film from. And when I read it, I thought this central character of Catherine was so compelling. I loved this woman because she didn't run away. She didn't sort of shut up, but she fought back. And it was great to see somebody in the middle of the 19th century just be so violent and not accept what she was told to do. She was told, stay indoors, and she said no. and so she fought back.

So once we got that, then we went to this, to I features, who run this scheme where you can apply for a small amount of money to make a feature film. And then we had to go through

a series of rounds to get the money to do it and that's where it started anyway. And Florence, for your journey, what was, did you audition? Yeah, so I was actually on a boat to Isle of Wight and then I got a call saying that I had an audition

tomorrow for Lady at Beth. And I was like, Oh my God, I have a day to prepare for Shakespeare. So I like, got back. on a boat and went back to Oxford and then I read the size. I was like, this doesn't sound like normal Shakespeare, but okay. And did the audition, didn't think it went very well. As always.

And it did, apparently. Evidently, yeah. And then, yeah, and then it kind of just happened like that. We did chemistry reads and figured out who was Sebastian. And then went up to Durham for some rehearsals. So it was all pretty swift and perfectly timed, actually. And how long did it take to make as a sort of behind the scenes, was it? from start to finish shooting-wise?

The shoot, well, I guess it was 24 days to shoot it. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, it was not very long in the same place and then we had two weeks of rehearsals beforehand and then we had about 14 weeks to edit it and we've been making it for about three years in total with the writing the script and everything. Amazing.

And just about the sort of period costumeist because that's pretty exciting. Yeah. So were you all corsied up? Yeah, so the first fitting I was like, oh, I'm on, I'm, well, going to be in a corset and all this stuff, which is, you know, everybody thinks that they want to get in that thing. And then you get in, you're like, oh, my back really hurts and everything hurts.

And it does take a while to just get used to because you have to start thinking about how your breathing pattern changes, how you're going to eat, because unfortunately, when you eat food, it uses the space you use to breathe. So you have to only eat specific foods and you have to sit in a specific way and you have to make sure that you do all the things that you needed to do, whether it was like exercise or we before you get in it because, you know, it's just completely, it's different. You don't know until you're in it. And part of that rehearsal period was really interesting because we would do so many of these physical scenes where me and Cosmo would have to wrestle or fight or he'd have to pick me up. It would all change when I was in that outfit because, of course, I can't wrestle the way that I would have done if I wasn't in a corset. So that corset to me was actually probably the most interesting factor to the whole preparation of Catherine

because that basically sculpted her. It made me stand in a certain way. It made me sit in a certain way. It made me talk in a certain way. And I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't have been in it. So, yeah. And character-wise, it goes to some very dark place, very, very, probably the darkest place.

You could probably go. How did you, like, get out of that at the end of the day? It was, gin. Gin. Gin. I did, actually. I went on Amazon and I ordered gin and tonic. No, so those, all the,

difficult scenes were obviously all difficult to film obvious reasons if they weren't then I would probably have to go somewhere and speak to special people and but no I think lots of those scenes we had a lot of time to really tackle them and we didn't just you know skip through them they were all serious and they were all done well we shot in sequence as well so we started sort of quite optimistic in the way that the film starts and then by the end we were in that those dark places and by that point we were all quite tired so actually fed into it like it all got quite dark and then we finished and then there was such an amazing sense of achievement that we had a massive party

and actually that's where we could then just let go of all of it yeah but we kept it I would say for that last you know certainly that last week where all the stuff really starts to spiral down and become quite dark that's always pretty helpful as well because you're aware of where you need to go you've covered the story you know how far at what point Catherine is already and then you go, okay, well, I know how deep we need to go now, and everybody's on the same wavelength. I love that. It's a bit, well, it's a little bit of like a homage to a shakes bit,

because you're doing like a play. You're filming it like a play. So, yeah, you get to totally live and breathe it all right through. And just really quickly, what is up next for you guys? What's the next adventure? Off you go. I'm working on a screenplay with the writer Walter Mosley. of a book he wrote called

The Man in My Basement which is about a young guy in America who gets paid some money to keep another man in his basement So you think this is dark This is a warm up Stretching out, lunging for the next one. And for me I've just finished

A wrestling film So completely different to Catherine I'm super excited. Yeah, no, it's, it was probably, it was so much fun. I had so much fun on that shoot, and it was exhausting and exhilarating, and I learned how to wrestle, so if anybody touches me in a club now, I just do like some sort of headlock takeover and it's sort of. Yeah, exactly.

And I'm really excited for people to see that one as well, because, yeah. Yeah, me, more huge wrestling fans, and we go, and we actually know Paige. Yeah, do you? Oh, wow. Yeah, great. Collider, like, since she started. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I heard there was a movie coming out, and you look quite light.

Especially with the black hair. And yeah, it was, it was a phase. I did the pale and the black hair. Now I'm slowly going back to Florence. But yeah, no, it was a really, really fun shoot. I think our time's out, but thank you so much. Thank you. Food Bar Radio presents.

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And the man in blue pants is putting his penis in his bum. Quite close up. How about this? Five in pussy. That's impossible. Let's see if it's impossible or not then. Oh, God. She is putting a lot of fingers in there.

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filling in for Norquark today I don't know what that was Hi hi hi hi hi hi Hi you guys We're joined by our last guest of the afternoon So a huge welcome Tanya Fear

Hiya Hello Hello Hello Welcome welcome Welcome And you're here to talk about Your new movie

A Moving Image Yes So for all people at home Who are like I haven't heard of that What's that about What's the film about I look at me

You explain the film I've done most of mostly be explaining. I always give him the hard questions. I just think, oh yeah, I really love the costumes. Okay, so it is about a stifled artist, actress, filmmaker called Nina, who

returns home to Brixton after a long absence and realizes that it's not the place that she grew up in. So she makes, she begins to make a film about the changes, the gentrification of Brixton, and in the process is accused of being a gentrifier herself. So it has to grapple with her own

sort of complicity in the issue. So it's a film about making a film. It's a film within a film. Yeah, it was a bit inceptiony in the sense of like you were making a film and, but you're of making a film. And then I was wondering in some of the scenes whether people realised that you were actually making a film

of a film, whether they thought you were making a film. You know what I mean? Yeah, I thought that. Especially the scenes, the public scenes when you're talking to people. Yeah, I thought that. Like, did they know that it was you playing someone or? Did they think it was...

Did they think it was... Nina? Yeah, they thought it was Nina. I wanted that. I was like, oh, this is... This is deep. Yeah, very deep. This is brilliant.

And, well, I was really drawn to the movie because I used to live in Brixton, and I moved there in 2000 and... well, I don't know, 12-ish, I think, maybe. And I lived there for, like, three years. And it was insane, the change in Brixton that I saw in just those three years from when I first moved.

And I lived on, weirdly, I lived in the two places that you mentioned in that... road. I lived on the Guinness Estate in Summer Leighton Avenue and then I lived on Rushcroft Road. No way. So I was like what? This is so weird. It's about you. It's about me.

But I genuinely, the two places they mentioned in the film, I'm like... That is quite weird actually. I lived in both of those. And weirdly, I lived there and I think I fell down the middle because I wasn't the original people who lived there but I wasn't the new people either. So I was property guardian and guardian shipping. I don't know what you

call that. One of them living guardian type of people. I was a living guardian. So I moved to the Guinness estate after they were moving everybody out to stop people squatters moving in, but it was before all the new flats were built. So I was living obviously in the old, in the old departments. And the same then they moved me to Rushcroft Road. After

all the squatters had been removed, I lived in the old, old houses of Rushcroft Road before. And then I looked into, I said, oh, actually we really, really love it, we love the area. We'd like to, when the new people said, oh, they're going to be meant to new flats, we sort of inquired about how much it would be. And it was going to be like £2,000 a month. And we went, whoa! Okay, no.

We can't afford to live in Brixton, so I had to move out, because I could not afford to live anywhere else in Brixton, look down the road, at some other houses, and sort of thought, maybe if we rally friends together, we can afford it. No, couldn't. Literally couldn't.

I had to go out to Peckham. Couldn't afford Brickston anymore. So this film, I think, was really good in raising that. And I can only imagine how hard it would be for people who have spent their entire life there, not just someone who turned up, you know, in their 20s, and thought, oh, I really like this place, I want to stay, no, I can't.

So, yeah, so how did the first. films have come about then? So the inception of the film was through a conversation between myself and the producer, Rinkia Atoe, who was born and raised in Brixton, but left and then very much like Nina's character, found herself out of step of the place. I live in Elephant Castle in South London and I had experienced regeneration in that space through what happened with Southwark Council and the Haygate estate, which you had a thousand socially affordable homes that were regenerated and in the

new elephant park is only going to be 79. So for me it was a real problematic example of regeneration and it really spurred me to want to really investigate regeneration and justification. And I looked at Brixton because for me, Brickson iconically has been the kind of space for black intellectual thought in this country. I've viewed it very in the same kind of lenses Harlem in the US. And also going to Harlem and going to Brooklyn in 2014 also kind of. of seeing the conversations happening there that were very similar to conversations that we were having to hear about justification

also filtered into me wanting to make this film. Well, it raises the point very cleverly, like we said before, because you're making, it's almost like you're making a documentary, but you're also making a film at the same time. So it was a split down the middle between a drama and also actually making a documentary. And was it real people that you featured in the stories

or were they actors speaking real people's stories? No. No, it's real people. It's real people. Wow. Okay. The film's a real hybrid in the sense that it's a mixture of fiction, documentary, animation, performance, art and photography. All kind of woven together through the theme of gentrification. So the people we talk to in the documentary sections are real people in Brixton.

Yeah, so a lot of the time you can't tell who's an actor and who's not. And I think, I don't know, I think that's a real strength of the film. Definitely. Did either of you live in Brixton or have you ever been? Yeah, I did for a while. I don't anymore. I live in another fun castle. The producer in Keatthor was born there.

Okay, so you've got the Brixton connection. Weirdly as well, I'm going out in Brixton tonight. I haven't been there for a while. But it's a friend's birthday. I'm like, where do you want to go, Brixton? Nice. I'm like, the, weird. Well, so we, weirdly.

Oh, really? It's our release party. That's not so weird. It's our release party, but I'm supposed. We can't do it anywhere. else could be. A movie about Brickson and you do it in the, I don't know, South Kettington.

If we did it in Kensington or, I don't know. Shortage, that would have been quite ironic. Yeah, and it's a hard one to place because I think that there are, you raise a lot of really good points and especially about the point that they make about your campaign, your character is campaigning about anti-gentification and saying,

well, but you're kind of lived in Shortwich and now you're coming back And it, yeah, it definitely raised that sort of uncomfortable situation. Yeah. Well, I think as kind of creatives, we are complicit, whether we want to be or not. Because, you know, we'll go into an area and take our coffee shops or whatever, make it nice. And then, then, I mean, you explain it much better than I do. But then so I hear, then the developers kind of like go in there, like, oh, this is nice.

and we're sort of the foot soldiers, the unwilling foot soldiers of gentrification in a way and we're sort of trying to deal with, yeah, complicity is the big word that we explore. That was good. Thank you, thank you. The only positive changes that I could see was when I first moved to Bristol,

at first I'd only ever heard, because I'm born in Lewisham and raised in Lewisham, so I weren't too far away, but I'd only really gone sort of like the Nunhead border, I hadn't quite gone to Brixton. So when I found out I was going to move there, I thought, oh, maybe it's really quite rough. Even though Lucia was just as rough.

Yeah. I was like, I was really thinking about that. Yeah, I don't know why I was worrying. But I think I had like an image of what Brixton, or maybe I had like Brixton riots or, you know, all that stuff. And then I moved there and I found it just so lovely. And the people so lovely. I never had any problems in Brixton.

And then, but I do have a friend who's a police officer who said, well, they've moved the police. office, like there's a hub there and now crime has dropped massively in the whole area because you're 60 seconds away from a police officer, many of them and I did see that happen, something happened in the street once and there's like four

cars turned up within 60 seconds. I was like, whoa. So I did feel, I felt really happy and safe in Brickson. So the positives I guess of lots of people moving to the areas that crime rate has gone down massively and I guess, I mean what you're saying there is that

all of a sudden there was a heavy police presence and police were actually doing their job at that but the thing is it seems like they were doing that potentially for a new clientele why wasn't that always the case to some degree? Yeah, I can see that. I can see that.

I mean I think there's this this is a thing that I think Spike Lee was talking about in Brooklyn is a similar thing where okay now you have all of these I guess more affluent members of the community in this space

now the rubbish is getting cleaned on time now all of these extra perks things are happening things that could have happened before but why didn't they yeah that's just well it's a hard one to see whether yeah who came first was it did they decide to set the police

station up there because of people moving to the area or did they set the police up and then people moved to the area go it's safe now we can come along it's yeah it's a hard one but I did feel I did feel that there was like a reputation that Brixton had that I didn't experience. I found it very, very nice.

I agree with you on that reputation, but my producer, Rinkie, and it would have been great if she was here. She will speak to a really strong community. Even in that era, that time people were talking about high crime, her personal experience were very much similar to your experience of feeling very safe and feeling very solid in her community. I mean, the thing is, there is this media demonisation

that goes on. Definitely went on the Hager estate. Estates become sink estates because the media present them as such. Yeah. When, again, that's another space where there was a community there existing. Before you saw the Hageghist state on Harry Brown, before you saw that Hageghett estate on Luther being this kind of cesspit of kind of crime. Yeah.

There was a community there the whole time. But it's all about how these things are depicted. I saw that with the Guinness Trust estate because I was in the sort of the switchover. So there were people who had lived there since the 50s. And there was like little old ladies, that you don't like help them up the stairs and stuff. And, and the people who actually lived there

and were so sad at being moved out, because I'm assuming that everyone that moved out didn't get to move back in again to the new ones. And a lot of them were saying that they were given options. Yeah, like completely out of London, which was seriously unfair. It's like, yeah, we've got a brand new house and, you know, Cornwall, like what? The sense of community on the estate,

because I hadn't lived on, I'd lived near estates, but not in one. And I'm so glad that I got that experience. because the people there were majority lovely. A couple people, you know, hanging the stairwell, you're a little bit like, hey, can I even get past? But majority people were just so nice. And it was like a different level of family

that you would get on a street, I would say. Yeah, with the Guinness Trust, what's interesting is that one of the characters, one of the documentary segments features a lady called Batil Mahari, who was actually on the Guinness Trust, who actually led the campaign to try and maintain her presence in that space, but was unfortunately moved off that and wasn't able to return to Brixton.

There's a scene where we follow her into her shop, which is also in Brixton, which is also now on the threat of being shut. And basically she's lost her home in Brixton through the Guinness Trust and what happened there. And now this shop is actually closed. So she's also lost her business in Brixton. And this is a single mother too.

so I think the film as well as highlighting the kind of arty kind of artist S types, Nina characters played by Tanya is also looking at the people at the front lines of justification as well and is trying to find a cohesive gel between all of it

ideally it would be great to have like a harmonious you know if we could if maybe that's just a dream but someone new benefits of some of the new things that are arriving and the benefits of yeah this film like really poses the question

who gets to participate in this regeneration and that's what we want people to really think about and if people fancy checking out the movie how would they go about doing it do it do it do it well the movie opens tonight at the Ritzee in Brixton

and it's also at the Hackney Picture House before opening wider the following week yeah amazing so people are going to so you can check out is there a website really Ritzy wouldn't it no just wwwmooammovingimimedcom Oh, okay, there it is.

There was the link. And Tanya, how did you get involved in the project? Because you were acting. Yes, I've been acting for a while now. Well, Shela and I are actually like the best of friends. I keep going around the interview saying, he's my best friends. And I just look over like, do you like me?

I just smile. Yeah, we've been really good friends for about four or five years. We actually became friends after working together on a short film that he directed, a few years ago now and yeah we just stayed in touch and always wanted to work together again so we've been talking about this film for a long, long time

and he did sort of write it with me and mind to play this character and we a lot of I think a lot of it is I don't want to say about me but no as there's a lot of

inspired by because he knows me as a person I think that he really try to achieve that sort of seamless effect of, you know, whether you're acting or whether it's real, you know, I think a lot of me, he put a lot

of me into the script. Yeah. There's a lot of time, right. The dancing bits. And, oh yeah. And what is next for you to, either together or sort of separately professionally, what are your next project's next moves? I'm developing my next future

film with the BFI. It's a personal story. I don't want to talk too much on it, but it's a, it looks at the connection between Nigeria and the UK. Okay, cool. I'm doing a bit of TV at the moment, but I can't say what. NDA disclosure, okay. You can maybe do it.

It rhymes with shmahmah. Shmame of shmoolems. Okay, we definitely got to talk about it. Well, thank you guys so much for coming in. Just to recap, it's a moving image. If you guys want to go check out the film, it is opening tonight, Ritzie and Brickson.

also going to be, we're all going to be rolling around Brixton tonight. Oh yes. I'll be flying around Brickson. Woo! Brickson Batgirl. This is, no, it was a very cool, you know, like a documentary slash

drama, which was a drama mentory. No, no, no. We could do a drama D, which is a drama comedy. So I tried and I failed, never mind. Well, thank you so much, guys. We've been doing lots of 80s classic movie tunes today for the music so we're going to go out on

turning Japanese by the vapors it's back row into I'm in Japanese I think oh I was not prepared for that whatsoever I love that song I think it's great I don't you know I mean now would it be acceptable

this is a bit on the edge of racism I don't know but it was in the 80s it's a vintage record so you can play it fine welcome Lutie Patterson to the show it is at film review time part of the show where we talk about what we've seen, what we like, what we don't like, and we want you guys to get involved as well.

So if there is any movies that you've seen that you think are fantastic, or any movies that you're looking forward to, or anything that you've seen is shit. Just tweet us at Fulbar Radio. A lot. Tweet us a lot. We will shout you out or email, chill at Fubaradio.com,

let's get a conversation going. There, again, it's not a lot coming out at the moment. It's been a bit of a poor effort, really. Apart from the obvious. Yeah, apart from Guardians of the Galaxy, which I haven't seen yet because I'm going to see it on Monday. There's not a lot out, so I've been watching a lot of Netflix. Me too.

Yeah, me too. One thing I do want to mention is the Lady Macbeth, because that is coming out tonight. And earlier in the show, we did an interview with Florence Pugh and the director of Lady Macbeth. And you might, if you're in London, I'm not sure about outside London, but in London, there is just posters everywhere for this movie.

Actually, yeah, I saw them on my way in quite a lot of them. Yeah, they've won a massive campaign, which actually, I've got to say, has worked because I saw the poster and went oh I want to what is this yeah and it is really cool and I first again I thought it was maybe like a Macbeth

adaptation it's not Shakespeare it is a character it's a story standalone story but it is based on the idea of a woman like Lady Macbeth who is just ruthless for what she wants excellent um and it's like just what we like I love film like that

it's like some sort of like raunchy kind of skins but set in It's just ticking all the boxes, isn't it? Yeah, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, but set in Victorian times, which actually, I think, helps escalate the whole movie because it's about this young girl who's absolutely gorgeous, got total girl crush on Florence Pugh, and she is like 17, and she has to get married to this a lot older guy. Yeah. Who is, he kind of, you know, he bosses her around, he's rude to her, he doesn't sleep with her. I mean, dickhead.

Doesn't give her the deed. I mean, what is wrong with that? Give a girl a little bit of a deal. If you're going to marry someone, you don't want to marry then, at least, like, just have sex with them. Just close your eyes. And he basically says, I ban you to the house, kind of, kind of like husband. And, you know, the feminist of me. Exactly.

He's already like, what for a F? So, anyway, she ends up coming across the new stable boy, who's a bit of a bad boy. Oh, cheeky. He just sounds like, Paul. Yeah. Pretty much. and they end up having like the most lusty affair ever. This sounds fantastic.

It does, doesn't it? But then obviously the husband finds out and it's all, you know, and then just liking them at best, murder starts to happen. So it's all, it's all just... I mean, you've got bloody everything in there, aren't you? Everything you want and need.

So Lady Macbeth, I think it's just, it's so modern, but just set in the olden days. I think it'd be a really good... If you're not into your period drama, this would be a brilliant starter. Like an introduction to it. And Florence Pugh is just so watchable and headed, I think she's headed to

like crazy good places. Brilliant. I'm super excited about that. I really, really want to see it. So, Lady Macbeth is out. So if you don't, if you can't get into Guardians of the Galaxy tonight, if it is full, go see Lady Macbeth. Yeah.

And it's a good one and support, you know, British cinema. Yes, always do that. Absolutely. Just before we forget, because last week, we launched a huge competition. And we have, we're going to announce the winners. Let me just see who won this week's competition. Oh, it's on the paper, apparently.

I just need to read. So we had two competitions. First is a signed copy of Alison Cugel's book, journaling, fame, a memoir of a life unhinged, and on the record. And it goes to Dave Simon from Blackpool. So thanks for getting involved. Lovely, well done, Dave.

Well done, Dave. You have won that copy of that book. And for our prize for Sully Miracle on the Hudson, We got a big bundle of prizes for that. It was a film, or the film was an untold story of emergency plane landing on the Royal Hudson. It was Tom Hanks, wasn't it? Tom Hanks, yeah. So you could win a DVD, a hoodie, a duffel bag. And the winner, it goes to Michael Anderson on South End on City. Oh, yay, Michael, representing Essex. Well down. Go town. So well done, Michael. You get that big, huge bundle. You're so lucky.

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Right, good. That was the competitions. Back to film reviews. So, what else have people been watching? If the cinema hasn't been really like... Getting your buzz in. What else have you been watching on your... Well, I actually did go to the cinema.

Oh, what did you see? Last night. I was still there at 2 o'clock this morning. No. There was like this fancy pants double bill of Guardians the Galaxy 1. Oh my God. And two, in IMAX, it got to half past two and I was like, this film needs to end in a minute please. Jesus.

What was it like? Right. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. The reason I was bought on here is because of my honesty. Yeah, and I like that. You know, I feel like I'm going to get some sort of backlash for this. But it wasn't as good as I was expecting it to be.

Oh. Yeah. Now, I will say that it was absolutely amazing. The CGI was brilliant. The characters, obviously, it's lovely to get more of those characters that we all just completely fell in love with. I didn't, but anyway. You've just stunned me to silence.

Their first film is so cool and so funny and, you know, absolutely perfect. I can't pick one single hole in the first film. And I think what didn't help is that because I watched that literally 10 minutes before I watched the second one, I was reminded of how mind-blowing, and how beautiful that film is. I just love it.

You know, it is one of my favourite, if not my favourite, Marvel film. So when the first one started, I thought, okay, this is good, you know, this is really good. It's funny. Yeah.

They've ramped up everything. They've taken the humour of the first one, the action of the first one, the relationship between the characters of the first one, and amplified it about a hundred times. Up to 11. Yeah, exactly, up to 11, well done, good reference. But sometimes it was much.

making me cringe a little bit. Oh. Yeah. Too much. Too much. I will say that everyone does need to go and see it. Go and see it. You know, I saw it in IMAX and I had a headache at the end of it because it was so, there was so much.

Yeah. And it was so colourful and amazing. And like I said about the relationships between the characters, they were developed a lot further, you know, and there was a few more people in it. Kurt Russell makes an appearance, which is lovely to see. Tommy Flanagan is there, you know, blink if you're missing, but he's there. I was quite upset about that. But yeah, I mean, go and see it.

Try and see it in IMAX as well to appreciate the art of filmmaking. You know, even the non-CGI cinematography was beautiful, you know, really, really was. But it just took that step into ridiculous. Right. Further than a superhero film should go, really. And it was a little bit cheesy at times.

Do you think they were panicking about trying to up, like a bit of upmanship? This is the thing. Like I said, the first one, in my opinion, is so personal. what were they going to do? They had no choice but to take it further. But they took a little bit too far. But please, I will say this again, don't take me slagging it off

as it's a shit film. It's not. It's an absolutely amazing film. How is the soundtrack? Because I just fell in love with that first one. Everyone fell in love with the first one because it was amazing. They couldn't top it.

How can you top that? You know, they did the same thing with, you know, the old 60s, 70s, 80s, songs, whatever, on the second mixtape that his mum left him at the end of the first film. But not all of them were instantly recognisable. Right, okay. You know, there were a few that I was like, yeah, this is brilliant. You know, I literally wanted to dance in cinema. But the majority of them, I was thinking, oh, you could have picked a much better song for this.

Yeah. You know. But apparently the rumours were that the first film, it was an actual mixtape that somebody had made somebody. I genuinely hope it was. So they, and I really happy for the recipient

of that mix tape because it was amazing. So whoever made that one? Yeah. Like sort out, you know, so apparently all, it was,

it was, they literally took it from, that's amazing. From a mixtape that somebody had given somebody and they said this should be all of the films.

Yeah. I don't know how true it is. I wanted to be true. I wanted to be true. I want it to be true. I'm not going to research it anymore in case

it's not right. Yeah, you know, all the elements are there. James Gunn wrote it again and I think he just sort of ran away with it and just went a bit too far with certain things. And it was just a little bit quingy sometimes. People might watch it and think, shut up, Lucy, you're talking at your ass.

But, you know, it's my job not to watch films like a normal person. I'm there to rip the shit out of it when it needs to be done, you know. But yeah, please go and see it. Like that honest best friend everybody needs. Exactly. Do I look shit in there? Yes, you do. Go and get changed.

Awful change to color makes she look sick. Go away. No, which is brilliant. So, I mean, I'm still going to go and see it. And I'm excited. Go and see it, but just relax and have fun with it. Don't watch it like an abnormal person that's trying to find fault, you know, and you'll enjoy it. I wasn't a massive fan of the first one.

I absolutely loved it. I thought it was a bit boring. You don't like Spacey kind of film. No, I'm not that kind of person. I don't know, like Chris Pratt in it, right? Yeah. I do really like it. It's just good.

I do really like him, and it was a good film, don't get me wrong, but I just was a bit like, mm. Wasn't your favourite? No, I loved it. and Deadpool were huge surprises for me and the ones that I just keep going back to watch but there's only so many times you can watch

Guardians and Galaxy on Netflix without wanting to see more so I'm really excited that there's another one and I'm glad that it's got lots of excitement and explosions because it's it is literally next level action explosion it's so bright and neon and lovely and like unicorns shit all over it you know

that is all I can explain it as it is just pure joy yeah you know and Karen Grover, is that what she's called, the girl from, no, no, not Karen Gilead, Karen Gilead, there's your. I think Karen Grover's a girl on my Facebook. Sorry, Karen. Sorry, Karen.

Shout out, Karen on Facebook. Hey, Karen. She's Nebula. And she's good, Nebula's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She develops a lot more. We didn't see a lot of her in the first one. And her relationship with Gamora develops as well, which is, is good to see.

I was about to be like, does it? But I was like, no, their sisters. I'm wrong. Yes, they are. Sorry, no. No, no. Doesn't develop in that way. Really?

Right, well, we're going to just pop to one more song before the end. I've got one from Pretty and Pink. So we're going a bit to school disco-y now. How cute. Have you seen that film? No, oh, Alexa, I can. No, I do love Pretty and Pink. Which is, if anyone's like, what's Pretty and Pink?

It's one of the first ever. John Hughes. Google him and watch all his films. Teen movies became Teen movies in the 80s in because of him. And this film is. about a girl, you know, it's like the birth of teen movies. So if you like teen movies, go back and watch all of the John Hughes

collection. So this is if you leave by Prerty and Pink. And chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio We are back after that fantastic. Such a good choice. Such a chune. It was good. I feel like I'm at an 80s disco and no one's dancing with me. I'm in the corner with my like

handmade dress on. My handmade dress on like a puff ball. Watch the movie. She makes a little prom dress. I was just laughing and I didn't know why I was laughing. No, it's brilliant. Yeah, I mean, I used to be into sewing quite a lot, so that film

inspired me. To make my own prom just, but I never went to prom. I never had a prom. Yeah, we didn't have proms. We didn't have proms. We didn't have proms in England. I had a prom. Yeah, but you're from the north.

For some reason, you don't do proms in England except if you're in the north and all America. In Essex, it is a thing now, obviously. Oh, yeah, obviously. Because, you know, but when I was at senior school, which was right about 30 years ago. Probably about 20. But yeah, no, it wasn't a thing then.

Well, talking of age and age-appropriate things, while that song was on, we were just discussing, is it okay to fancy actors who are, like, a lot younger than you? Right, I'm just going to clarify this. So, what's his name, though? Tom Holland. Yeah, oh. The new Spider-Man.

The new Spider-Man. Can we just, like, confirm his age? Because I'm pretty sure he's 17. Does anybody? Does anybody call him? Amarify his age for me? How old's Tom Holland? Does anyone know? I'm assuming he's a teenager because I know that...

I think so. He's definitely in... I'm pretty sure he's a teenager. He must be because he was in the impossible, wasn't it? He's 20. He's 20. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine.

24, 20. Basically, what we were discussing was, you know, when you go on, you kind of watch a track... So I watched the Spider-Man trailer and thought, he's really fit. I'm going to watch interviews with him on YouTube. So I watched one, an hour, later I was 15 interviews in

and then you start watching those fan made video which is the funny moment and I literally I do it all the time with people I've done it with Nick Robinson Oh I love him I've done that as well with you Nick Robinson that's going to be in everything everything Who's got the just the sexiest hair cut

in the world at the minute I've done it with him I've done it with Cole Spouse I've done it with Dylan Sprouse I've done it with the bloody Ross Lynch from Austin and Ali on the Disney Channel which is definitely a teenager I think that might be going to be one of those cougars. Yeah.

You're in cougar training right now on YouTube. I mean, does anybody else watch those? Like sometimes it's like funny and cute moments. I do want to know. Oh, thank God for that. And like I was saying, I'm 10 years older than you. So, you know, this is what's to come. Ladies, when you get into, when you get past the point where you're starting to watch those fan-made music videos.

Oh. Then just, you know, the montage music video, then you've got to get out. Put the ice cream down. There is no end. And back away from the computer right now because... There isn't an end. No, but once. I'll let you into a very dark secret.

I'm pretty sure this was about Matt Healy. He's the lead singer of the 1975. I have a picture of him on my wall. I have a canvas of his face on my wall. Love of my life also has kissed me before. What? No, she'll show. You mean you kissed the poster?

Yeah. I watched, I think it was part 12. I got up to it. in the funny moments. Oh, part 12. Part 12. They were only like four minutes long. That doesn't make it any better.

For some reason, film review time has turned into like... I really hope that I didn't know. I don't know why I just said that on the radio because I've met him quite a few times as well. Oh, my God. So we're getting all the dark secrets out. Live on air. The best place. Great.

Talking of Guardians of the Galaxy, obviously that's Chris Pratt, and we're just also talking about how hot he's become. God, everyone's just hot at the minute. Maybe they're putting filters. They're putting Snapchat filters on movies now, so everyone just looks beautiful. I mean, they must have done it to Kurt Russell in the film,

I'm telling you. When you watch it, you'll be like, how did it happen? And the makeup Oscar goes to. Well, Jurassic World 2. Nick Robinson's in that song, carry on. He was in the first song, I love him so much. Watch Kings of Summer.

Have you seen Kings of Summer? I have, but he's borderline teenager in that one. I just don't even care. Definitely 16 in that. He's not. He's older. No, he is. I'm checking.

Wait, was Nick Robinson? I checked. Ladies, was Nick Robinson? Was he the teenager in Jurassic World? Yeah. Right. Okay, we really are getting quite perving now, aren't we? I'm sorry.

I'm going to have to raise this in. No, no, hang on. Just speak on yourselves. I'm just going to get a picture of him, okay? One minute. Right. So Jurassic World 2. Apparently, and I really hope this is true.

He's really fit. Jeff Goldblum is back for the second film. I heard about that. I just hope it is true. Yeah, they're going to do more connections to the original drastic part movie. Good. With the main guy, the main sort of scientist guy, his character is being written in as the co-owner. Oh, yay.

Of Richard Attenborough's character. So it looked like in the first film it was just owned by Richard Attenborough. No, there was a co-partner who obviously had all the access to all the dinosaur DNA. And so he's now doing something with it, of course. And Sam Neal has been approached, but he said that no, his character, is definitely retired and is sick to death of running from dinosaurs. Shut up, Sam Neil. So, I mean, come on, Sam.

You can at least camille or something or play a dinosaur or something, you know. But Laura, her name is... Laura Dern. Laura Dern. Yeah. She said that she's not in it, but she would love to be. Oh, get her in it. I know.

She's been quoted to say she's going to do it. Then get her back in it, you know? But I'm really excited because obviously the Jurassic World movies just made a shit, the money. And so they're going to be keeping pumping these out, which I'm really happy about. Because I love dinosaurs, so and I'm so excited because I think Jeff

Goldblum just kind of stole the first movie and he made the second one. Totally. So this is brilliant edition. I've been scrolling. I can't really find one where he doesn't look really young. So inappropriate.

Like there, maybe? No. No, that's not a good one. Hang on. That's definitely not a good one. I've scrolled through lots of pages. Oh! Oh, no, that's a good one.

He's basically growing his hair out for anyone that cannot see because we're on the radio. And he looks very similar to Brooklyn Beckham, I think. He does. Oh, he's another one that we cannot go near. No. There's just stuff by there. That is the end of the show. It turned into a bit of a purve parade.

But the end, we've been... Oh, I'm so bad. We've been doing all 80s music all of today, but I'm going to end on something really modern because I just am obsessed with this song right now. I fancy the lead guy in 13 reasons why as well. Exactly. So 13 reasons. He's definitely 20 something.

For sure. So this is the night we met and it's like the main sort of theme, love theme from 13 reasons why if you haven't seen it, what are you doing? Get on Netflix and watch it. Very important. It's brilliant. And this song for anyone out there, if anyone is Netflix and chilling right now to this radio show, ooh, first of all, but too, I'm going to help you.

So we'll see you next week. This is Back Row and Chill. Bye. Bye. This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. If you enjoyed this podcast, please don't forget to rate and review us on iTunes.