Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 37 - Ron Scapello, Adam Scott-Rowley, Ilan Eshkeri, Alex Taylor
Episode Date: May 23, 2017This week Noel was back! Ron Scapello popped by to talk about his new film My Name Is Lenny. Star and Director of nude play (yes you heard us!) Adam Scott-Rowley dropped in to talk This Is Not Cultur...ally Significant. Also in the studio we had music composer Ilan Eshkeri who told us about his contributions to major feature films. Also, director Alex Taylor told us about his new film Spaceship – which premiered that evening! Last but not least, resident film reviewer Lucy Patterson passed through.
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Back row and chill,
Johanna James and Nogh, on Fubar Radio.
Good afternoon.
Yo.
Guess who's back?
Yeah, I've been away.
I wish I had that song.
Guess who's back?
Well, you should get a little thing.
The amount of times it happens, you should get the little thing.
I know.
It says that.
It could be a little jingle thing or whatever they're called.
That could be my thing.
The king is back.
It's back row and chill.
It's 4 p.m. on Friday.
It is.
The weather.
It turns out, I don't know, we're doing different things today.
It's like raining and it's sunny.
I'm like constantly taking my clothes on and off.
I think the weather hates me personally because yesterday, two days ago,
I had a t-shirt on and it pulled with rain and was freezing.
And then I said, okay, weather, that's how you're going to play me.
I'm going to be ready for you.
And I put on a jumper on a leather jacket yesterday.
And then it was sunny for most of the day.
You should do like a weather blog or something.
No, I think the weather.
You know, personally, I think the weather actually hates me.
I think like it's doing it to me on purpose.
Like I genuinely think that
Okay, well test it out
Maybe like
I did, I did because this morning
I just had on a T-shirt
Yeah, this morning I just had a T-shirt
It started raining
So I put my hoodie on my jacket
And now it's sunny
Now it's like I'm on a fucking beach
My gosh, Noel Clark controls the weather
Or antagonises the weather
Yeah, he's antagonising me
So if you have like a wedding or something
That you need plan
Just make sure no where's the opposite
And then you'll get the right weather
Exactly I think his mother nature's doing it to me
Mother Nature
She hates me
Is a bitch
right we've got a really packed show
we've got loads of guests coming on later on
we've got entertainment news
all the new well what's coming up
what's coming out what's films that have been announced
and TV shows that have been commissioned
and all that and all that jazz
we've got loads of music well obviously it's my
very eclectic taste in movie soundtracks
I'm sure it's going to be great until you play it
and then I hate it as usual well I don't know
we'll see we'll see if I can you know I always know
when you're on I'm like okay step up the game
just like alright let's have some interesting stuff
But yes, you've been away.
A couple weeks, busy, busy times.
Very busy times, doing some busy stuff for busyness.
Bus-busy, which you can't talk about.
No, I can't tell anyone.
That's the weirdest thing about it.
Everyone thinks I'm on some fucking holiday
because there's pictures of the beach and stuff.
I've actually been working, but I can't tell you what I've been doing,
which is the problem.
Were you on Love Island?
Celebrity Love Island.
I was.
I was.
I was.
And I found love with a coconut.
Oh, exclusive.
Backro and Chill.
Right, okay, I'm going to kick off today with a bit of Jackson 5.
Going back to the original Guardians of the Galaxy.
Okay, great.
Just because I love it.
That's not bad.
Yeah, I know, right?
We're starting off one of an easy one.
Nice and safe.
I miss you, man.
I miss you, man.
That was a very good, that was a very good song.
You can't not.
Elevate's the mood.
Classic.
Classic song.
Brilliant, well done.
Right, I think it's a bit of time now for entertainment news.
So we're just going to get right into that.
It's the Entertainment News.
on Back Home Chill.
Yeah.
Have you got a thing here?
I just played it.
Oh, play it again?
Okay, ready?
You play it again.
On Back Road Chill.
That's great, man.
I love that.
I love that.
Yeah.
Well done.
I'm impressed with that.
The producers were like,
put your headphones on note
and then you'll hear all the keys.
I don't wear headphones.
Are these my headphones?
I thought it was a fucking mouse pad here.
I was like, why is there a mouse pad here?
Why is there a mouse here?
See your headphones?
I don't wear headphones.
Anyway, let's do it.
Right, okay.
Hit me, what we got?
Right, so, well, it's Cannes Film Festival kicked off at the moment.
Yes, or Khan.
Khan.
Khan, Cannes Film Festival.
Khan, Cannes, however which way you are.
Cannes.
Cannes Film Festival, Maine!
Yeah.
Well, you know, it's known for being a bit large guitar and...
I hate it.
You hate it?
Have you been down?
Yeah, I've been loads of times and I just don't like it, man.
I just don't like it.
Right.
Well, the emoji movie has gate crash.
They weren't invited, obviously, from Sony.
Yeah.
So they've decided to just, like, crash all the parties.
Great.
As they should.
Yeah, so they've got this huge emoji,
inflatable emojis that they've got going down the river
and they're just crap
with all these people dressed up as a massive emojis.
All these really pissed off producers.
I can imagine.
So that made me chuckle.
Hackers, now this is an interesting one.
Yes.
Because obviously recently in the news,
I know all these NHS computers have been gone down
because of hackers and viral stuff.
So now they're a pirate, actual video pirates.
which have stolen a Disney movie
and they are holding it to ransom for Disney.
And they say they're going to...
Pirates of the Caribbean.
Literally, Pirates the Caribbean style.
No, but I think the film is Pirates of the Caribbean.
I think, yeah, it's either Pirates the Caribbean
or possibly Star Wars.
Oh, man, it's not Star Wars.
Disney would go ape.
Well, someone said that if it was Pirates of Caribbean,
they'd let it slide.
If it was Star Wars, they'd just pay it.
No, I heard it was Pirates of the Caribbean.
Yeah, I think it's pirates, but they're going to...
The hacker says they're going to release...
Release it in segments.
Yeah, the first 20 minutes of the film,
unless they pay it.
a ransom and they'll keep releasing minutes of the film
until the ransom is paid. Disney ain't going to pay that.
Yeah. If I'm Disney, I'm like, fuck
you, I'm not paying shit. And they want it in Bitcoin.
I mean, come on, dude. Like...
Dude, that, that Bitcoin shit is worth money,
you know? Is it? Yeah. I don't get it
myself, but it's a currency and it's worth money.
I mean, maybe to the hacker geeks,
they're like, oh my God, like, 200 Bitcoin, dude.
Yeah, it'll be untraceable. Once it's
gone on the internet and it'll be there, they can move it around
and stuff like that. For sure, yeah, it's not like paper money.
If I'm Disney, I ain't paying shit.
Well, I think it's quite ironic that a
pirate movie has been pirated itself.
I don't know what Disney
going to do there. They said they're not paying.
I think I saw this on the news and they said they're not
going to pay. They're not going to pay. I'm going to release it early.
I think people will still see it anyway.
Interesting.
Are you fan of Zach Fron?
He doesn't offend me.
Okay, that's a nice neutral.
Yeah, I'm actually, I'm a fan. I think he did
really good in that 17 again.
17 again. With Matthew Perry.
He plays his...
He played Matthew Perry
basically shrinks back into a teenager.
And he's Zach Ephron.
And he's Zach Efron.
Never!
You wish Matthew Perry, you absolutely wish.
Well, he's supposed to be that he's like,
you know, he's lost his way, he's middle age,
he doesn't look anything like Zach,
and he goes back to being 17,
and he goes back to high school with his kids.
And he finds out that his daughter's a bit of a slut
and his son is getting bullied,
whereas he used to be like the head jock.
So he has to like try and befriend his own son.
When you say daughter's a bit of a slut,
you mean she's a free-thinking young lady?
I don't think we slut shame anymore
2017 isn't it
you know what I mean
she's just he's shocked that his little daughter
I'm more shocked that they actually
sexually active yeah I'm more shocked they believe
that Matthew Perry could be Zach Efron
I mean that is fast that's the most shocking thing
but I think he did really well it was like his first sort of like comedy role
and that's when I first set up to Zach everyone and went oh okay
I think he was pretty good in um bad neighbors or in America
it's called neighbors you know and what a body on the kid
like he's got a good body on him
For sure.
Well, now he's going to play Ted Bundy in a biopic thriller movie.
Okay, so he's getting for his Oscar, is he?
Yeah, for sure.
Interesting.
So, Ted Bundy, the guy who killed 30 women in the 1970s.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it's got a lot going for it.
It's like a period.
Sounds like a real rom-com.
Period 70s film, serious.
He's going to be playing.
Apparently he's...
Kills 30 women.
Sounds lovely.
Well, no.
But, uh, Zach, well, apparently.
the real Ted Bundy, the reason why he killed that
he was because he was really good-looking and charming.
He was a Zach Efron.
So that's how he's like, hey, I'm good-looking, I'm just going to kill women.
So, no, just that's how, because there's that weird psychological thing,
which they've actually tested, it's a proven thing.
Are you sure? You didn't do this test on your own?
I didn't do it on my own, but I've read up about it, and it's about...
Wasn't one of your YouTube sketches that you do so well?
No, for sure. No, this is like a actual psychological fact
that you will give more leniency to good-looking people
than you will to less good-looking people.
Oh man, that's true.
The things I get away with are unbelievable,
because I'm not...
Because, you know, I'm not a bad look at myself, you know, so...
So, okay, well...
Why are you laughing at me?
Well, I'm just...
I can't, no comment.
Why are you laughing at me?
I don't know why you're laughing at me.
They did this...
They did it with some jurors, and they got, like, different...
They got jurors to rape...
To do what?
To rate.
Oh, sorry.
The guilty sentences are...
Or the innocent sentences on different people,
and they were on a sliding scale of, like,
classic attractiveness.
And all the jurors, no matter which
selection they chose, they gave
more lenient sentences to the more good-looking people.
It's just, it's like a, it's like some sort of
wired thing. It's like a little child,
you're wired to look after if it looks cute.
If someone's good-looking, you're wired to think that they're
less evil for some reason. That's very true.
I'm like, very evil.
So it's always more surprising
when really good-looking people do something really
evil because it kind of jars the whole
your whole lot of... I get it, man.
Firstly, I think they would find you guilty. That's the first thing
I think.
But secondly...
For me. Cheers, thank you very much.
I think they would find you...
I wouldn't find you guilty.
I think you're very good looking.
I feel a Twitter poll coming on here.
Because you are super evil and you get away of a lot of stuff because of how good you look.
Just like, you don't flutter your eyelashes and...
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you're super evil.
Like, guys, Johanna is super evil just so you know.
I'm super evil?
Yeah.
Well, you can't have it both ways.
Either you're going to be guilty or you're super evil and good looking and get over it.
Okay.
Would you prefer to be super evil and good looking or honest and ugly?
Yes.
What would you prefer to be super evil?
That would be honest and ugly or super good looking and super evil like Joanna James.
Tweet us at Fubbar Radio or email chill at Fubbar Radio.com.
We will shout you out.
You're probably not going to email in but you should.
Just email anyway.
Just say hi.
Just let us know that there are people.
Just say hi.
Just let us know that you're actually listening.
That would be swell.
Are you a Game of Thrones fan?
Are you not a game of friends fan?
You're in it?
I'm kind of in Outshake it all about.
Like I've watched seasons one to three.
Okay.
And then, you know, real life took over.
Yeah, but shit hits the fan of the series three.
And I had to do some real life stuff.
And then I haven't got back on it because I've been distracted with other things.
Okay.
Like making movies and stuff like that.
Like putting you in movies maybe.
Oh, just while we're on this tangent, I just watched The Making of.
Yeah, you're in that.
Yeah, which they've released on YouTube.
So if you want to see The Making of Brotherhood.
Yes.
Google that one.
She's in that.
Diana James in that because she's in the film and she's very good in the film.
I mean, very rarely I get people being like,
are you the girl from their film?
I'm like, yeah.
Did you get it sometimes?
Yeah.
Well, you should, man.
You're very good.
Yeah.
But I was talking about Game of Thrones.
Game of Thrones.
As we know,
I've announced before,
there is four Game of Thrones spinoffs
that have been commissioned.
Fantastic.
Sounds amazing.
So they're going to take four different strands of it
and they're going to go in different directions
and they've got all the best writers.
They've got like Jane Goldman,
just like Kingsman and Kickoff.
Jonathan Ross's wife.
Uh-huh, yeah.
There's loads of other,
oh, the guy who,
who wrote Mad Men, it's brilliant,
and they've just announced that there's going to be a fifth.
They've commissioned one more amazing writer,
which they can't name yet,
because they've got to do the deal before they can announce his name.
But we do know it's a he.
And the guy who wrote all the Game of Thrones,
he's obviously approving all of these writers and whatnot,
and he says that all the projects are going to be pre-calls.
So if anyone's excited...
Oh, before actual Game of Thrones?
They're all going to be pre-calls,
because some people, obviously, they want to see post stuff,
but I think that's just going too far in the timeline.
so they're taking it all back.
Well, I think also he probably wants to keep control of that
and make that stuff up himself, the author.
Yeah, because he's going to continue the book
because he doesn't want the TV show to like over race them.
Which is fair. That's completely fair.
Yeah. And Netflix, and this is a very weird one,
because I'm all about putting money into film, making movies,
but some movies I'm a bit like, why?
They're making a movie about Michael Jackson's pet chimp bubbles.
Yeah, I've heard about that.
And I think a lot of people are scratching their heads
because I was like, is that something people really want to see?
People love animal films, though.
I mean, I do like a monkey film,
but, like, Dunstan Checks In,
or Monkey Chubble is classic 90s monkey movies.
Dunstan checks in.
Do you remember that?
I do remember that film.
I love that movie.
That was funny.
I think he was an orangutan, though, you know.
That's like calling a West Indian African.
He would be very annoyed about that.
Dunstan.
Dunstan's an orangutan, I think.
But Michael Jackson, I think he was actually, yeah.
Bubbles is.
a chimp. Bubbles is a chimp. He's a chimpanzee.
Very different. They don't all look alike, you know.
patient profiling on my monkeys.
But I don't, yeah, so Netflix have obviously
Am I too loud?
Sorry, carry on me.
The producer. Talking to the producers.
I don't, yeah, I don't know if I want to see that film, but it's happening.
Money's going into it, and I'm a bit like, I think there are other stories.
So I think that lots of Michael Jackson fans will watch it and thus Netflix kind of can
deal with it.
Yeah, yeah, okay. I see that. I see that.
And also, do you know the film, The Dark Crystal?
Yes, great film, The Dark Crystal, before you were born, I think.
Well, the prequel has been commissioned.
I have seen it, but I think it was a while when I was younger,
and I think I mixed it up with legend.
Or Fraggle Rock or something like that.
What's Fragle Rock?
Shut up.
What's Fragle Rock?
I don't know what.
What's Fragle Rock?
I do by Shuck Talk.
What's Fragle Rock?
Guys, if you know what Fragle Rock is,
tweet me or emailing or something
like that. How can Johanna James not know what Fraggle Rock is?
I'm sorry, I thought I was good on my...
But no, I'm offended by that.
But Netflix have commissioned the Dark Crystal prequel.
So it's all going to be coming back.
But I hope that they do practical effects.
Because I'd be really upset.
Oh, you want them to do practical puppet effects?
Yeah.
Like the Muppets?
Yeah, for sure.
I get really pissed off when they turned Yoda into a little like CGI.
No, but he was a don't when he was CGI.
The ninja stuff he was doing was unbelievable.
He couldn't have done that if it was a puppet.
It would have just been getting thrown across the screen.
Just the puppet being thrown back and forth.
And it wouldn't have worked.
Yeah, I mean, he did get a cool fight scene.
But I just, whenever they were doing the close-up shots,
can't they just do it as the puppet?
Practical effects all their way.
You think so?
If I was going to make a movie or like a, you know, a sci-fi movie or anything,
as much as I could, I would do.
You'd just have the practical alien.
Yeah, for sure.
Some guy in a suit.
Yeah.
He talks and his jaw moves at the wrong time.
No, but all the classics worked on practical effects.
They did because we didn't have good VFX back then, but now we do.
And do you know what?
But the Jurassic Park was done, majority on practical effects.
You know what you're saying?
That's like saying, oh, do you know what?
I like the olden days.
I'm going to take a horse and carriage.
What's the point in getting in a car?
No, no.
That's what you're saying.
Okay, I feel another Twitter poll coming on.
Practical effects or special effects.
I'm not saying I don't like a horse and carriage.
I'm just saying,
If cars were around, let's use a car.
I just think that unless you're the CGI.
Fraggle Rock.
Oh, I've just seen a reference.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, no, that's like, that was performance time.
So much better than, oh.
Thank you, Daniel White.
Got an email from Daniel White in, sorry.
Saying, hey, no, Johanna, so much better than Mayo and Commode.
Just saying.
Oh, Daniel White.
You guys are talking another code.
What's Mayo and Commode?
Oh, my God.
I'm leaving.
Guys, it's been great.
It's been great.
I've been glad to be back.
I'm out of here.
Take care, guys.
I'm sorry.
I've got to love you and leave you.
I don't know.
Is that like a relish?
Mayo and Commode on your chips?
I don't know.
What is it?
Okay, I'm back.
I couldn't leave like this.
Look at the shock on the producer's face.
Look at the shock.
Even one came in from the other room.
I know.
Okay.
Simon Mayo and Mark Commode are like two of the most legendary film reviewers in the land.
Mark Commode in particular is an actual G.
He likes me quite a bit, actually.
I'm quite good friends of him.
So, Daniel, I would never say I was.
better than Comode because he's actually a very good friend of mine.
I love him to bits.
Mark Commode, if you ever hear this, which you won't, you are a legend.
I bow to you and could never be as good as you.
But, Johanna, James, the fact that you don't know this.
I guess C minus. You don't even get a U.
you don't even pass that way. I'm out. I'm out.
That's unbelievable.
She's like, is it mayonnaise? Unbelievable.
Oh, Mayo and Camus. What sandwich is that?
I'll eat that from Pratt. Oh, do they sell it in Pratt?
I'll get one of those.
Oh, man. Well, what can I say?
I was on it.
See, I spend all this time of school learning.
about frigging algebra when actually
I should be learning actual
facts of life. Mark a mode
is a ledge. So Simon. In fact
Simon writes novels and is actually
now getting a couple of his novels made into films.
Oh shit. I'm I'm supposed to... I don't know if I'm supposed to say that but he is.
He's a ledge. Well why don't you just go and marry Simon then?
Okay. I'd rather marry Mark to be honest.
Okay. It's got like a little Elvis Quiff.
Basically. All right. I think I'm just going to have to go to a song
and recover now and do a little quick research ses.
Yes. About Fragal Rock as well. Have a look at those pictures.
Uh-huh. Right, I'm going to go for a little bit of Elvis Presley from Ocean's 11, taking it back to the early 2000s.
No? Not sure.
I see your hips moving. I see him. It's back around chill.
And chill with Johanna James and North Clark on Fubar Radio.
Yo.
Yo, we're back.
Yeah, that was all right. I'm a prefer in the Jackson thing.
Okay, all right, okay. I'll get a little one. I got a C for that one, but never mind.
I like a bit of Elvis Presley. I'm sure a lot of you out there do, well.
I'm sure they do.
Sure they do.
Right, we ran a competition last week
which to win a copy of the DVD
of La La Land.
What?
I know.
If you didn't get to catch it in the cinema,
we got that to give away.
I didn't enter that,
on the beach in the Caribbean.
Well, that's all right.
You were all right?
I should have entered, though.
I would have liked a copy of that.
Yeah, I mean, it's a great film.
But we've got our winners,
so there's a huge congratulations to
Chris Meller.
Wow.
Georgie O'Di Daiwa.
Chris Meller again?
Chris Mellas won twice.
No, he hasn't.
Harry Jones and Rachel Emery.
Okay, maybe that was a little...
The second Chris Meller, the Chris Meller clone has not won.
No.
Chris Mella, the original has one.
Georgie O'Dwyer, Harry Jones and Rachel Emery.
Yeah, fantastic.
We're going to be sending out a copy of the La La La Land.
Well done.
And if you want to keep in touch, keep involved.
Or if you want to keep in touch as well, just make sure you're following at Foo Bar Radio on our Twitter
because we always give away competitions every single week.
Every week.
If you're following us and you can look out for it, you can read.
retweet it, then that's all you have to do for a chance to win.
Every week there's a competition,
goodies given away.
There's like a goodie box in the office that I see,
and stuff comes in, and we're not allowed to touch an event,
and it's really annoying.
We don't get anything, which is highly unfair, I think.
No, I think we should get some surprise.
Maybe I'll, like, make a fake Twitter,
and then that's extra, isn't it?
Yeah.
Well, there's no rules that say you can't actually enter.
Yeah, I guess so.
Yeah.
Let's get the unions involved.
Exactly.
Fair rights for prizes.
Right, so?
What's happening?
Okay, so we're doing what's coming out now.
Oh, this is new.
It's what's coming out in the world of film, okay?
Some things have been released this week.
Okay, great.
Okay, we've got a film called Bruised, which is...
Oh, don't even get me started, man.
What, you know about it already?
Don't even get me started.
Why?
Let me just, before we go into that, I'm just going to say.
So, I have, on my laptop, a female MMA movie.
Oh, I know about it, yeah, yeah.
that has been written for a while.
And there we are.
And all these fucking studios are like,
oh, female MMA movie, we're not too sure.
Ooh, is it about Ronda Rousey?
No, it's not about Ronda, but it's not about her.
Oh, female MMA, we're not sure.
And then all of a sudden,
my whole thing is absolutely effed.
Because now Blake Lively is going to do, guess what?
A female MMA movie called Bruised.
Brewed.
So that means that my script
and everything that we've worked on for the last,
last two years or probably
one of two things will happen. It would either get made
because they'll want more like that or
it's absolutely effed.
Yeah, because they've completely
stolen there. Because once playing live he's done it,
what chances anyone else have?
For sure. So very annoying.
But if anyone is interested, like, well, I still
want to see a female MMA movie. It's
about a single mother who was distraised,
just stressed. No, I can't talk today.
Disgraced MMA fighter
and the authorities threatened to take away
her son, so she's got to go back in the ring again.
Yes.
So, I mean, actually, I did not know that it was Bate Lively.
That was not in my notes.
Blake Lively, yeah.
So, I mean, she did good in that Shark film.
And the director of the notebook.
Oh.
Look, I'm into it. I'm into Bruised.
I think Brused will be great.
I'm a big MMA fan, as you know, people have seen me at Bammers and UFCs and various things.
I'm friends with a few fighters, what one in particular.
You know, Michael Bisping, Brad Pickett was in brotherhood with us.
You know, like, I'm a big MMA fan.
I've been supporting MMA for a while.
So I'm super into, yeah, I used to train it as well.
I'm super into this film.
It's just annoying that when I've been trying to get an MMA film out there for so long,
that...
Libby.
Obviously they got Blake lively, so that makes sense.
But when I've been trying to get one up for so long and everyone's like,
oh, I don't think this will work.
And then suddenly Blake's doing it.
They're all like, oh, MMA movie, MMA movie.
It winds me up.
It's the golden dust of Hollywood, isn't it?
Yeah.
So they're making a Fahrenheit 119 movie,
which is all about the day that Trump became president,
November 9th, 2016, which is 119 in America.
So I don't really know much more about what,
because we all know the ending, don't we?
Trump became president.
But I think they're going to make some sort of drama tization of that day.
Who's making that movie?
I think it's the same people who did Fahrenheit 9-11.
So now they're going to do Fahrenheit 9-1-1-9.
9-1-9.
So now they're going to do Fahrenheit 1-1-9.
Yeah.
Hmm.
So.
That gets a hum from it.
We need a hmm.
That's a hmm.
What are these things called again?
These things?
These are sound bites.
We need a hmm.
Well, we've got a tumbleweed.
Maybe not.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see.
We've got some emails in.
It says, hey Noel, nice to hear your voice again.
You were missed.
What do you think of get out?
Everyone loves it, but it left me cold.
I don't see what's so great about it.
It says Kirsty and Elton.
Kirsty.
Do you know what?
I haven't watched it yet.
I've been a little busy the last few weeks.
Oh, you've not watched it?
I haven't actually watched it yet.
I will do.
The thing about Get Out is what a lot of people don't know,
especially in this country,
is the creator and director, Jordan Peel, I think.
Peel, yeah.
They're like massive in America.
He's massive in America.
Like, you know, people don't really realize that over here.
So that film was always going to do well.
Plus, you know, Daniel's performance, which I've heard is brilliant.
Absolutely amazing.
You know, is going to help that.
He's got a lot of.
of support in the UK.
So I think that the film was going to do well regardless.
I've heard it's very good.
A few people have said what you've said,
but I haven't seen it yet, so yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, I saw it at the cinema and I saw it again.
I really like it.
I thought that it was, it wasn't a jumpy, jumpy horror,
and if it was just, it was just tense.
And obviously because of all the sort of racial subjects,
it was very awkward.
But when the comedy came in, it was therefore,
it was like an amazing release.
everyone could laugh and there's like a smaller role in it who's like the best friend
who basically kind of steals the film because he's he's the comedy relief coming in the
whole time I think I'd probably like it because I think I probably like it because I'm a big
fan of Kean Peel's work Jordan Peel and the other guy forget his name I'm a big fan of their
work so I feel like I'll like it but I just haven't and you've got to support UK actors
regardless of like any sort of whether you know them well or not know them well like you know
it's a UK guy so we have to watch it
he's great and he absolutely smashed it
and he smashed it so much that hardly any
American realised he was British and then they're all
like really up his job man they're really upset
to find out like that guy's English what
fuck them? Another email
says hey guys who is the loveliest
and least loveliest actor celebrity
you work with or met from Daphne
and Ronford? Are you honest to name names and shame
people? Who's the loveliest
the loveliest?
I don't know there's too many people
to say who the loveliest is.
There's absolutely too many people
because there's a lot of amazing people
that I've met and worked with.
So I couldn't say that.
For me, Hugh Chapman.
Huge At least. It was the loveliest.
He was the loveliest, most down to earth,
really helpful.
Because you're doing a junk kit,
and those things are kind of awful.
And he came with so much energy
and everything that I was giving him,
he was giving back to him fold,
and it was brilliant.
And the least loveliest?
The least loveliest was
Aaron Taylor Johnson
He did the exact opposite of Hugh
He everything I was giving him
He was just thrown on the floor
And wasn't giving me any fun
And he made my job really hard
And yeah, so
My least loveliest was Jimmy Nell
I worked with him on Avi the same pet
And he was absolutely horrible to me
Vile
Vile
Vile
Yeah, vile
Why? Did he not just not like you?
I don't know
I don't like him, aren't you?
about that. Grog against the world?
It just was vile to me. The whole time.
The whole time. Oh, season one, not
the other two seasons, but season one.
Because by season two, I weren't having it.
Oh, really? Yeah. Stand up to your bullies,
people. Yeah. For sure.
For sure. And, yeah,
that's my loveliest than my least loveliest.
But what were we talking about? Fahrenheit
11-9, I'm not sure about that. Yeah, yeah,
for sure. Kedoki, so
we've got a film called
Cash Truck, which is Sandra Bullock.
What a absolutely wonderful name
It probably doesn't tell us anything about the movie though
Cash truck
Well as an American who's fallen on hard times
And she joins a London Armoured Car Company
And she gets involved with the people
Like the gang of people who run the Armoured Car Company
And then explosive secrets from her past come out
Is she who she says she is?
And all this stuff
Wow
Sounds amazing
I don't know Sandra
Sounds amazing, isn't it?
It's always found it a bit weird
when they randomly drop an American
and plot them in an English movie.
Financing, girl.
Haven't I taught you anything?
How do we get this film made?
How do we get some money?
Oh, I know.
American and man?
Hey, I'm not against that, you know?
I'm not against that because sometimes you need to get your film made
and a lot of the American actors have more value.
Although UK is really catching up.
Emma Roberts.
A lot of, well, there you go.
We have a lot of Ian Somerholder.
We have a lot of people that are making moves in America now.
For sure.
Yeah, they tend to be more known,
so that's how sometimes is the only way you can get your film finance.
And there's a movie called Operation Final, which follows...
Sounds brilliant.
The team, the final operation,
the follow the team that hunted down and captured Adolf Eichmann,
who was one of the major architects of the Holocaust.
So if that's done well, it could be interesting.
Operation Final.
Operation Final.
What a wonderful name that is?
I wonder if it's the final operation in that film.
I think it might be the last mission.
Might be the penultimate one, though.
The penultimate mission.
That should have been a better name, but that's a bit hard to say.
Penultimate mission. No.
Operation Final.
Operation Final.
I would love to know, I'm geeky like that.
I love to know all like the code names for certain operations or big things.
That would be really interesting to know.
Yeah.
Or like just said that you could know the police.
I've got a friend who's a policeman and he was trying to help teach me all the police codes that he knows.
I bet he was.
Did he arrest you put the cuffs on you?
No.
No.
He's not arrest me.
Oh, he did say that if I did do something, if I, if you could arrest, if you were a police officer and you arrest someone outside of, like, hours, when you're not working, you get, like, triple pay.
Really?
Yeah, because if you put your life on the line and you arrest someone and you've not got the protection of your uniform, they kind of reward you for that.
For what, just that one hour or the amount of time it takes you?
Because I'd make that arrest last, like, all day.
I'm just going to sit on you for about five hours.
Yeah, before I report it.
So, yeah, you get financially rewarded and, like, a bit, you know, for if you arrest someone.
so, but he was saying there's like,
there's like code names for all the different skin colors and stuff
he was trying to teach me.
Yes, I know that.
I've been called on IC3 many times.
Yeah, yeah.
And so normally if I'm dating a guy, he'll be like,
what's the IC?
Many times I've been called that.
I go through the numbers.
In my younger days, when I was stopped by the police.
I think I'm on IC6 now.
Are you?
I think.
No, I think.
Oh, yeah, maybe.
My man, aren't you IC1?
Isn't white IC1?
I'm IC1, but I'm dating IC6.
Are you?
Yeah.
Wow.
Got his own code now, yeah?
New code didn't even exist two years ago.
I see six, I see six.
Oh, okay.
We've got a tweet from Kelly Riley fans.
Hello to Noel.
Any trailer out soon for your 10 by 10 movie?
Kelly Riley fans.
I've seen them on the old Twitter there,
supporting Kelly Riley massively.
Any trailer out soon for 10 by 10 movie?
Not soon.
Not soon.
Okay.
We're just finishing.
edit of that film. What about poster?
Oh yeah, I've seen
posters. I've seen tent
posters and stuff like that. I've seen some posters.
You've seen some posters. I popped by the edit
last week. That's right, I wasn't there, but you
weren't there, but they did
sort of, they saw the array of the, you know,
and I said, I'll think that one, not that my view counts,
but yeah, no, it's looking
good, the posters, are looking awesome. And I might
add, the poster looks nothing like the posters
that the fans have made up, absolutely
zip like those, so... Oh,
has they been fan-made posters? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good attempts, guys. Good attempts, guys, but the posters look nothing like that.
I've seen the film quite a few times, and it's very good.
Brilliant.
Kelly's fan-tastic, I must say.
So is Luke Evans, absolutely brilliant.
10 by 10, coming out later.
Later this year, I think.
Just quickly, before we go to another song,
do you remember that time when I nearly was on a movie poster,
of a movie, one of your movies I wasn't even in?
I don't remember. What was that?
Yeah, so we were, like, on the first ever movie that I worked on with you,
we were messing around with the behind the scenes crew
oh yes I do remember it was like a horror movie
so we were just having fun on the set on the lunch break
and then some of the photos some of the footage and the photos went back
and the producers went oh yeah this is this is great for the poster
this girl's great for the poster
and she ain't in the movie
she's not in the film man
it's a costume girl she's not in the film
so yeah a little weird fact that's how many know it
well that's because they thought you were better looking
although more super evil than the girls that were in the film
so you know yeah well
major casting floor then or major casting floor.
There you go.
So you're going to think about that and we're going to play a bit of Crept and Conan.
And then I think we got a guest.
And then we got our first guest on the show.
It's Back Row and Chill.
If she ain't fucking she got to go.
Kent Jones.
And usually I like to be in the front.
But right now this is back.
We're on Chill.
Boom.
Boom.
Creptan Conan.
The wonderful, very, very lovely young men.
Very, yeah.
know them, don't you? Well, not well.
Like, I don't go to their house or anything, but I have met them,
I directed a video, I like them immensely.
They're very, they probably won't like me saying
this, because obviously they're cool and I'm old now,
but they're very lovely, lovely, lovely young men.
Yes, wonderful young men. You can have a
quote on their album.
Wonderful young men. Now, they're cool, man.
I really like them. We have our first guest
in the studio, so we're a huge welcome to
Ron Scapello. No,
it's not... Alex Taylor.
Oh, my goodness. Unbelievable.
I'm sorry.
I might change my name to Ron Scopalow.
I called you Ron in the room.
Why didn't you say? How embarrassing.
Because I thought he might be coming in in a minute.
Alex was like, well, what was you?
Well, on my pieces, babe.
No, actually, I'm just sort of change my name to Ron.
I'm just reading it upside down.
That sounds harder than my name.
Right.
I might live better on the streets.
We'll try that again. Take two, take two.
It's not live or anything.
So don't worry.
Not live radio.
It's all right.
Yeah, but it is.
Sorry, anyway.
Ian, huge welcome.
Ian.
Who's Ian?
It's Alex Taylor.
Oh my gosh.
Why is everything wrong?
Alex.
Alex Taylor, welcome, sir.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you, Adam. Thank you.
Thank you.
Very in mind.
I didn't get your name wrong, right?
Yeah, sorry, don't.
Brian, welcome.
Steve, thanks so much for joining us.
Unbelievable.
What is the great stop?
Well, yeah.
That's what it's like when you're unknown.
Next week.
Don't worry.
I'll be on the...
Yeah, you too.
Next week, you'll be in can.
In can.
Yeah, do I...
Do you know who I'm Alex Taylor, damn it?
Well, you are.
And I'm just, I'm just scared to say.
now you are the director of spaceship is that correct what are you talking about who what the hell
spaceship i've never heard of that the movie spaceship it's a director of mayo and commode that
yeah stop fucking with me because i can only no no yeah this didn't happen on mayo commode earlier on
exactly exactly hello mate how are you yeah no really great things uh you know spaceship is out today so
yeah it's a little bit hectic and um we're running from here to the central pitch house uh this evening
for our public premiere so okay well before
Before we get into that and about the film being out today,
please do tell us a little bit about spaceship.
Or should we play the clip first?
Oh, yeah, okay, yes.
We have a clip.
We're going to play a clip,
and then we want you to tell us all about the film,
and then you can reveal that it's out today, etc., etc.
It's out today, guys.
Here's a little sneaky peek.
My mum disappeared when I was seven years old.
When I say disappeared, I mean,
they told me she was dead.
You should have seen him.
She was floating in the pool with this smile on her.
So...
There we go.
There was a little clip of the movie.
Please tell us what spaceship is actually about.
As opposed to what people think it's about.
I mean, that's a really good point.
So it's about a girl who disappears in an apparent alien abduction.
We'll follow her father looking for her.
But what it's actually about is how when you're a teenager,
we feel a little bit like aliens ourselves,
in that we've just arrived on this planet
and there are people looking in at us, prodding us,
working out who we are and how to communicate with us.
And so I wanted to make a film which was about teenagers,
but it felt like it was structured like a teenager's mind,
like by teenagers, not like from an adult point of view looking down on them.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So, which I think skins did quite well
because it really felt like it was from the point of view
and everything was important.
because it was from all the young people's eyes.
Skins did really well.
I was a massive fan of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like everything's a big deal when you're a teenager.
Well, it is a massive deal.
And so the poster and the film itself has been, you know, called things like,
well, the poster is quite interesting.
And I've seen the film be called magical and a psychotropic daydream,
a daring journey into younghood.
Like, what would you say was, would you say any of those quotes were all accurate?
and what was the thing that made you really want to make a film like this?
Bearing in mind, you're not a teenager, sir.
Well, I reckon there are teenagers inside of all us.
Agreed.
I think we're all still, I think there's a teenager rattling and sort of rebelling inside us.
Agreed.
You know, no matter how old we get, they're still going to be there,
and we remember all it was like to be a teenager,
and I think we still look at things and we go,
do you know what, my teenage self maybe thinks slightly differently about that,
but now I've learned that I need to sort of react to it.
differently but we the teenagers still there going man you wouldn't have done that back then what
you do so um i think you know as my first film out i wanted to probably go back and revisit some
those teenage years and just kind of work out what the hell it was all about yeah so to do that
rather than actually just minding all my own memories i didn't want it to be just autobiographical i went
down to towns in south england like gilford farmer and all the shot and i sort of befriended some
teenagers and i just hung out with them for the whole summer yeah and i just became friends with them
We went through some, you know, really sort of tough.
I saw the tough experiences they were going through, you know,
but the joyous celebration of life that they did, you know.
So there's one time when this goff, like, he cut his chest a little bit,
and then a girl, like, drew a smiley face in blood, you know.
And I was like, man, I mean, in a happy sort of party, sort of relaxed sort of way.
And I thought, you know, that's teenagerhood, you know, that's what it's like to be a teenager.
It's kind of sort of happy pain, you know.
Whereas an adult, you'd just be like,
oh, let's put a plaster on that.
Yeah.
The cream carpet.
Yes, exactly.
Don't read on the cream carpet.
Would you go back?
If you could have, if you could have like a day pass
to go back to being a teenager, would you?
No.
No.
I'm not sure, yeah.
I mean.
I don't think I would.
I mean, we survived it.
You just did it all summer.
Yeah, which is why in my next film
is probably not going to be about teenagers.
And when you did that research with the teenagers,
did you find that, because I think you're right,
I think we all have that, it's not even so much that we have it inside us.
It's like that you get to a certain age, I feel, and actually you mentally, you learn new things,
but you don't go past that age.
You just, society forces you to go past that age.
Society forces you to behave a certain way because after a certain age, it's like, there's things you just shouldn't do.
But you still feel, you know, I've got like, you know, my dad is old, but he doesn't,
he says to me, oh, I still feel like I'm 25 or whatever like that, because your mind, you know,
so when you were doing that research, did it remind you a lot of your teens and also,
how different was it now with those teenagers
than it was when, I'm assuming we're not far off each other's age?
Yeah, I mean, when it was when we were young.
Yeah.
I guess, yeah, no, do you know what it was remarkably similar?
Like, it was park benches, it was car parks,
it was anywhere where adults weren't going to interfere with them.
Yeah.
And it was the same talking, like this strange mixture of nonsense
and incredibly profound, like, teenage poetry.
To us sounds kind of like meandering and sort of fanciful, you know, or farcical even.
But to them, it's like, you know, it meant everything to us.
We were constructing the world around us.
We were deciding how we felt about everything.
We were testing avenues out.
And that means, you know, like, I'm like adults who think 20 times before they say something.
You know, teenagers just kind of go out there and say it and do it and find out if they like it.
So they were the same as we were about then.
And how did you find it interacting with them?
Did you find it hard to not, when they were saying things that were very teenage,
did you find it hard to say, well, actually, guys, what really happens?
Or were you quite silent, observing?
Or did you just kind of revert to your teenage self and kind of just?
Well, they taught me.
I mean, I thought, my first thought was, oh, you know, I had my adult thought.
And then I was like, man, what they're saying is so much more truthful and real.
And logical to them.
Yeah, logical to them.
But also, I realized how as an adult, my thought process has become so confused.
with all the layers of society.
So whenever they said something, I was like,
oh yeah, I should be thinking like that again.
So I'd probably regressed a bit of you over that summer.
Well, I think, though, the reason I wouldn't want to go back and be a teenager now
is because I think that it's changed even since when I was a teenager,
social media has just changed the entire landscape of a lot of teenage world.
Like, I'm so glad that I went through school
without having the smartphones and having to do Instagram
and all the social media, like, you know,
I'm glad that I have, like, three photos of me
when I was a teenager, and it's just hidden from the world now.
Yeah, you don't want your entire teenagers.
I don't know if I would have documented.
No.
But I'm assuming they were all going through that.
Were they always on their phones, posting and...
Do you know what, this group that I was with, they would...
Look, I think that teenagers at the moment are...
There are some...
Social media is a black hole, and it sucked a lot of them up,
and there are a lot of teenagers who just take selfies
and try and look perfect every day.
but, you know, luckily the guys that I found,
they were like outsiders,
but they celebrated that and they got together
and they were banding together against the, you know, the outside forces.
I think in a way, like your average, not your average,
your mainstream teenager today is in more trouble than your,
your outsider teenager.
Because they're all just sucked up into, you know,
they want to be Kenya West of Kim Paletian.
Yeah.
What was your casting process?
Did you end up using any of the guys you met out there
or did you go to traditional actors?
We did, first of all, I wanted as many sort of real teenagers in there as possible.
So, yeah, we met amazing people on the streets.
We met Annabel Allen, who's in the film, singing a song,
and she's now being played on Radio One, you know.
Wow.
She's a wonderful, like, really super young and talented girl.
And we met her, and she came into audition.
She wasn't so good at the acting,
But then she said, oh, yeah, I play some songs as well.
I heard her songs.
Like, that's in the film.
So we took her songs, put them in the soundtrack.
And then she came on set and she did a scene.
And I said, just bring your guitar up just in case.
And it was after a party in a bedroom.
And she sang and played guitar.
And it just, everyone's hair sort of went up on the back of the neck.
Wow.
And that scenes in the film.
And she's got, she's got a record doing now because of that?
She's, well, I mean, she's not, I don't think we can claim that we,
she's super talented
she's got there
but no she was playing radio one
like last night I think
wow that was her first radio one play
well we've had a tweet in
says hiall
your film looks really great and very
indie has indie cinema
influenced or inspired you
yeah totally
I'm a long way away from
sort of commercial big
I love like Gregoraki
and Harmony Carine
and you know
Larry Clark
you know that kind of gritty
you know not gritty
gritty is bad
not a good word
but um you know i want to challenge yeah you're mentioning the people that inspired me as well
like harmony and larry clark with kids and in the bully back in the days in particular yeah
um were instrumental in what then became kid out hood and blah blah blah blah yeah um so so yeah
i'm well into that man because there's not that many people doing that kind of film no
in britain you know there's a lot of people in america but we we sort of stick to our period
dramas and our yes you know nodding hills or whatever but man i always just felt like can't we
just have a real film that's just, you know, give them a voice and let them say things and
yeah, and not, not like, cut everything because it doesn't fit into our adults' opinion about
what they, they should be, you know, what it is to entertain, you know.
I'm loving your vibes, sir, because as you probably know, I'm kind of very similar in that
regard. I do, of course, man. You know, you've been in a, as well. And if people want to
come and check it out, if they're like, oh, again, they're going to go and see, you can check out
the trailer online, but it is opening tonight, isn't it? It's opening tonight, the central
picture house and we're going to be in the Ritzie and the Rio tomorrow
we're going to be in Hattney Pictures House I think every day for like from today
for the next week so that you can definitely around so picture house is going to be the one
pitch pitch house yeah and the Ritzieus next week and also you know I've got to say like
um like Laura Peake who's in born to kill uh she she's in it she's she's amazing new
star coming up and fantastic Tallulahadden from Taboos in it as well yes yes could show that
as well yeah yeah I thought I knew I recognized on our base was like
And Alexa Davies, she's raised by wolves and harlot.
So she's the girl who disappears.
Right.
So, I mean, Alice, you've done pretty well with your shorts, you know,
and now obviously we've got the feature.
What is next for you, sir?
I've got another feature film in development now with BFI.
So I'm writing it.
I can't say too much about it, but it's going to move.
I'm going to move into the adult adulthood.
You've already done that shit.
Yeah, damn it, damn.
Man.
yeah it's gonna it's gonna it's it's gonna be similar similar themes but in the adult world
next season yeah is there a role for me in there there is i definitely i definitely think there are
there is can you be in the army yeah yeah you could definitely be in army yeah i might be too old now
but if it's adults then maybe i can well i'm i'm putting my i'm putting my hat in the ring right now
um loving your vibe i will i will if there is a role for me sir i will be in your film
let's let's do that let's do that if there's a role for me
I will be in your film. Man, you're in the army now.
I'm there, I'm there.
Drop and give me 20.
Drop and right now. Okay, cool.
Let's play a bit of Tupac and we're going to start your training.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much, Stephen, Daniel.
Thanks, Sharon.
Guys, spaceship is out tonight from today.
Please check it out.
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as well, for all the screening info.
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Yeah, and the Creed soundtrack,
loving that movie.
Yeah, Creed's a good movie.
It's good, really liked it.
So who's we got?
We've got our second guest.
Second guests.
That doesn't mean he's second best, though.
No, just, you know.
In order.
Yeah, it's like, I don't judge food,
no matter on what the course,
it's yummy if it's the beginning or the end.
Yeah, I kind of do.
I'm like, this is a bad second meal.
No, this is a brilliant second guest.
Welcome, Adam Scott Rowley in the studio.
Yes, indeed.
How are you, sir?
All right, how you doing?
Great.
We're brilliant.
So, this is not culturally significant.
Hit me.
Tell me about this show that you have written, directed and starring.
By the way, before you tell me, I want to tell you, I'm loving that.
I'm loving the writing, directing, starring.
You know how I roll, man.
I love that you're doing that.
You're grafting.
What made you decide to do that, to take it all on?
Because this is a lot of work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the show is pretty crazy.
I play like 10 characters.
They're all having the worst times of their lives.
They're all going mad and they're all just like completely like breaking down.
All of their lives are like intertwined.
So it jumps between sometimes you're with one character for like 30 seconds
and you're someone else for 10 minutes and they all somehow know each other.
They're all somehow connected.
But they're all hiding something like really rough.
So some of them are like serious racist.
Some of them have got like really deep brutal secrets that they don't want to show.
But they kind of they kind of have.
this current of comedy and humour running through everything to try and hide all the pain and all the shit that's going on.
As people do.
Like real adults.
But like heightened, you know.
So yes.
And I do it completely naked.
I was going to get onto that at some point.
So yes, you do the show in the nude.
Yeah.
So there's varying levels of nudity because obviously nudity is nudity.
But I mean, do you wear a string vest?
No, it's like cock and balls.
You have your actual willy out.
Yeah.
start to finish, yeah.
Bit of paint.
A bit of white paint, that's about it.
I admire you, sir.
Yeah, that is real
putting yourself on
out there. What made you, so
two questions. Or a double barrel
question. One, what made
you take on this acting,
directing and writing
when so many other people just kind of chill and wait
for their agents to call? And two,
why are you
doing it completely naked?
Yeah. Well,
I guess that why I did it in the first place was that, you know, like being an actor,
it's such like an over-saturated market.
Yeah.
And you can, you know, you can wait around for jobs to come in or like agents to call or whatever.
And it just doesn't happen.
So it's like, well, either put yourself out there and make your own stuff or just don't do
anything and, you know, work as a waiter or whatever.
Boom.
I'm loving that.
I hope you guys are listening.
I've said this a million times.
You can sit around waiting for the phone to ring or you can create your own stuff.
and we know if you create your own stuff, things happen.
So massive respect to you, sir, massive respect.
And now, so why would a wee Willy Winky out?
Yeah, why balls?
Or Mr. Big Stuff, whichever.
I don't know, I've not seen the show yet.
You've got to come and have a look.
Because I'm thinking, I would say, excuse the pun,
you've got to have balls to be doing that.
So I'm assuming it's pretty scary, but you get used to it.
You do get used to doing it.
I've done it before, actually.
Have you?
Yeah, I did a play.
I've talked about this a few times.
I did a play and I had to be naked on stage.
Really.
Toured for a couple of months, yeah.
And it's very sort of like, yikes.
Yeah.
But then you just get used to it.
You do kind of gradually get used to it.
I worry as well that if I get completely fine with it,
that it'll kind of lose some of that tension, you know.
But, you know, the reasons for doing it naked.
Yes.
So it wasn't to begin with, I did it in Edinburgh last year, clothed.
And loads of people were like,
these characters are so brutal and so, like, unforgivable,
that there just needs to be some sort of, like, vulnerability.
in a show and it kind of concerned me
that there wasn't any
vulnerability in it
but then I didn't want to compromise
who I thought these people were because they
are like amongst us you know you see these people on the street
and in life all the time
so I thought well
if I'm completely naked hopefully people will
see themselves in these people and they'll be more
forgiving of the characters
see the vulnerability because you yourself
the performer
being really vulnerable and I'm being vulnerable
yeah so so that's yeah
so do you put how do you then
you change character in your 10 between
all the 10 characters and obviously you don't get costume changes.
Yeah.
So you have to do that all just like...
It's very physical.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's how they're defined like really physically and with voice as well.
Like half of the characters are women.
So there's just like a differentiation in voice as well as physicality.
Oh my God.
Have you seen the movie split?
No.
It's James McAvoy.
He plays someone who has split personality disorder.
So he's got 23 different people that he is and he goes between.
male, female, good characters, bad characters.
And he does it just by like the flicker of a face movement.
You can see one character switching to the next one and you're like,
that's a different person there right now.
That's M. Knight-Shalleman, right?
Yeah.
Was the film good?
Yeah, yeah.
Because he's not made a good film in a while.
Yeah, no, they've just commissioned the sequel to it.
Because that film was a surprise sequel to Unbreakable.
what split
yeah so split at the very very end
spoiler alert here
massive spoiler alert here
but at the very very end
you've got a cameo by Bruce Willis
okay say no more
and it's a say no more
Unbreakable was one of his best films
anyway back to you sir
I need to see these films
but split would be amazing
maybe see it after you or maybe
you know during your run but
it was James McAvoy
I think he absolutely killed it
and I don't know why he didn't get an
on Oscar or something because he was
unbelievably amazing
He's a good actor, man.
He's a good actor.
So, so, so when is the show on?
It's on at the moment at the bunker theater.
Yeah, and it finishes on, yeah, London Bridge.
And it finishes 3rd of June.
Fantastic.
Oh, nice little on there.
It is, and it's weird because it, because it changes every night
because a lot of it, a lot of it is improvised.
So it's dependent on, like, the audience that comes in,
kind of what happens each night.
Yeah, so do you have any sort of, you have a basic script then?
Yeah, there's like a skeleton of a script.
Yeah.
but yeah it changes a lot
so I'm kind of interested to see what it's going to be
on the third of June compared to what it is
so you feel the audience basically
and then sort of take it where in your cigarette
because sometimes they just laugh all the way through
but other times they're really silent
and they kind of they sit in the sadness of it more
so it's kind of weird juggling that
and making sure everyone's on the same page
and kind of... Do you have a preference?
I like it when it's...
My favorite thing is when they laugh at something
and then I change it up
and they're like oh fuck we should not be laughing
thing at this.
So that's my favourite kind of game to play with them.
Yeah.
I think it's a great game.
So brave to do, well, not only are you about naked,
but you're also doing just a show alone.
It's just terrifying.
Yeah, it gets a bit lonely.
Yeah.
Do you ever miss having someone to,
well, you have the audience to bounce off, sure,
but you have someone on your side of the ring to bounce off?
Yeah, definitely.
And especially when you kind of can't be asked doing it.
You know, it's like, there's no one else just to pick you up, you know.
Yeah.
And no understudy.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
Fantastic.
Well, yeah, this is super cool.
It's called This is Not Culturally Significant.
And why that title?
You've got to decide for yourselves whether it is or not.
After you see it, it's one of them.
Oh.
Do you have, just quickly, do you have, of your characters, it's 10 characters?
Yeah, kind of 10 to 15.
10 to 50.
10 to 50 in the menu.
Is there one that you lean towards the most, that you like playing the most?
And is there one that is similar to yourself?
I wouldn't say this one that's similar.
there's one that can talk to the audience.
There's only one that can actually, like, directly talk to the people.
He's, like, this spiritualist lecturer,
but he's, like, the most pissed-off guy you've ever met,
even though he, like, promotes all this mindfulness stuff.
So he's good fun, because you can actually be, like, active with people in the room.
Yeah.
But some of them are, like, really fucked up, so that takes quite a bit of energy.
Yeah.
Are they based on people you know?
No.
No.
Oh, so none of your friends are going to be like, oh,
Adam, I think I'll have a word.
Maybe at one point, but they kind of come so far now that you wouldn't recognise.
I hope you wouldn't fucking recognise anyone in them.
Yeah, yeah, something makes could be like, that's me, fast!
I thought I recognised myself in Brotherhood script.
Did you?
Yeah, but not the character I was playing.
I'm pretty sure, word for word, you know, the character Poppy?
Yes.
when she's with all the boys and they're all looking at the nudes.
Yeah.
And then she goes like,
I don't know why you said that.
It looks like a brain.
I'm pretty sure.
That we had that conversation.
That I've said that for sure.
It looks like a brain.
We're talking about why nudes are a thing nowadays and stuff.
We're having a group conversation about that at some point.
And I'm pretty,
I remember.
I was like,
yeah,
not got that from me.
I'm pretty sure.
Do you know what, though?
I think I'm popy.
I did get it from someone,
but I don't know if it was from you.
I think it was from me because I'm always the one there going like,
oh, no,
I think actually.
I don't know if you said, would you say it looks like a brain?
Is that something you'd say?
Yeah, because I think vaginas do know a little bit like brains or, you know, creatures are like,
ah!
Does yours look like that?
Like a brain?
Like a brain?
Like a pterodactal with a brain?
Yeah, it's a teradaptal's brain.
Maybe you should write her apart so you both can get on stage, man, because I would love to see that teardactyl.
I would love to see that terradactal.
I would love to see that terranet.
Well, if I'm naked, you'll just see it anyway, so just have to do.
well maybe I have seen it
but moving on
everyone's going to be like
oh my god tweet tweet tweet tweet two three
boyfriend's going to be calling in now
mother's calling in like what does that mean
no it's professional
we're talking about your play
which is all at the moment at the bunker if you've just joined us
it's a one man play you do it butt naked
15 characters incredible
how long is the play how long do you keep going
50 minutesish
depending on I'm assuming it could run over an hour
potentially if you're having
fun and interacting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not much more than an hour
because it's pretty knacker in.
Yeah, of course.
Have you had friends and family come and see it?
So friends, yeah, but my parents are seeing it
for the first time on Monday.
Shut up!
Your mother is going to come and see your winky?
Yeah, she hasn't seen it before.
Yeah, but it's not the same, is it?
It's not the same.
Not for like, you know, 15 years.
She's going to be like, oh, son, it's very different,
isn't it?
It's grown ever so slightly, I must say.
It starts off.
Dad's going to be like, well, done boy.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know what they're going to think
but it starts off with me as this
as this American porn star
and she's like frigging herself
at the very top of the show
so if they can sit through that
they can sit through the whole thing
Are you going to keep an eye out? What if you're kind of
frigging yourself butt naked and you see
Daddy walking out? I just didn't walk out
Oh that's the word. He might
No I'm trying to scare you know it's going to be fine
I'm trying to drink before it's going to be fine
they're going to love it they're going to be super proud of you
like everyone is I think what you're doing
my friend is absolutely amazing.
Thank you.
Writing, directing and acting,
I'm all over that and I'm
not patronising you,
but I'm proud that you're doing that
because I think more people should take ownership of their stuff.
And the fact that you're doing it naked,
I remember doing my playing naked,
and it was absolutely terrifying,
you know, having all these girls see my huge penis.
So the fact that you're doing that, man,
ultimate respect to you, man.
Cool, thank you.
It would be really funny if there's a fire drill,
though, because you'd have to go outside, didn't?
Yeah, go out in the carpet.
Park. I was performing. It's art.
Wiley's being arrested for indecent exposure.
In the theatre, it's like...
I was performing. Yeah, of course you were, mate. Come on.
Right, guys. This is not culturally significant, which is at the bunker,
theatre and Southwark right now. Started May the 15th.
No, no, no, yes. Started May the 15th and goes until June
the 3rd. Plenty of time to go see it. Please do check it out.
Adam Scott Rowley.
Amazing.
Brilliant.
Right.
We're going to go back to some music and move on to the third guest, which, no particular...
They are not as good as you, sir, because you are second.
They are third.
Amazing.
Right, here's a little bit of a teaser of another show on Fulbar Radio.
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name?
Ashkerry.
Ilan Eskeri.
How's it going, buddy?
That's a nice thing.
Great.
How are you guys doing?
Good, thank you.
Well, you are one of the very few composers that we've had on the show.
And by far the best.
By far the best.
Well, we just played a little bit of your work before the break.
And that was from Layer Cake.
Yeah, amazing.
But you've done so many films.
You've got Kick Ars, Still Alice, Stardust, Young Victoria.
So many of my faves on there.
How did you start doing this?
Yeah, so basically, this is a film show.
Tell the youngsters, tell the audience,
how does one go about becoming a composer for movies?
Well, for me, it was mostly an accident.
I really wanted to be a guitarist and a rock band,
and I took a wrong turn somewhere along the way.
So, but what happened is I just knew I wanted to work in the music business,
and I got introduced to a film composer
and I didn't really even understand what that was
and I just started working for him
literally just making tea
and I learned the ropes and I worked my way up the ladder
so I think what advice would I give?
Just do everything you can, short films
and I started off doing documentaries with the BBC
and bit by bit, you know, you push doors
and things start.
But it's really about consistently, is it really about consistently, though, also making music.
Just keep making music and practicing and learning your craft and stuff like that.
Absolutely.
And just absolute perseverance.
And, you know, there's so many nose along the way.
And I mean, right at the start, we nearly worked together.
I nearly did kid adulthood.
Yes.
And then that didn't work out for some reason.
I can't even remember why.
Because Hoods was a director, not me.
I was trying to be polite.
Yeah.
We did work on adulthood technically.
Yeah, we did.
or mentored, you mentored Chad, who ended up doing the composer on that old.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, good times.
I'm really, I love, I love film soundtracks is one of my,
modern music is brilliant, but I'm so out of the,
I'm not down with the kids with that, really.
I, my head's always in soundtracks and stuff.
So which way around does it work?
Do you, do you see the film and then find something over the top of it?
Or how does you, how do you?
Yeah, no, exactly that way.
Sometimes you get, you work at script stage.
So at the moment, I'm starting on Ray Fines,
is directing a new film,
a film about Nureev, the ballet dancer.
And I'm just starting on that,
and we're at script stage,
and we need to do some music in advance.
But that happens less often.
Most often you come in when they've got an assembly of the film.
And that's important because the director and the editor
need to throw music up against the film and see what works.
Sometimes unexpected things work.
And then you come in, and for me,
it's all about, I try to find an access point, an emotional access point in the film,
a bit of the scene that really speaks to me where I could say, okay, I need to write music for
this character and it's going to be like that. And there's two bits to it. There's the
bit where you have to write Luke Skywalker's theme. And then there's the more functional bit, which is,
which is more, you know, the bit where you have to write the theme, that's like coming up with
a hook, that's, there's no way to teach that. I don't know how, how that happens. But the rest of
it is, well, I put his theme here and it needs to fit in this scene. And it, and it's,
It needs to be sad or it needs to be actiony.
That's more of a skill set that you can learn.
Yeah.
And what instruments do you play, do you have one sort of specialised instrument or do you?
I sit at the keyboard mostly these days because, you know, you write it all on the computer.
But as a kid I learned violin.
I was rubbish at it.
But yeah, and I could play the guitar and but obviously not well enough to be a guitarist and a rock band.
You never know.
You never, it could still happen.
A lot of the rockers are.
kind of in advancing years so you know
that's almost so
yeah that is true
do you prefer
because I've done both
I've done sort of character themes
and I've done films where there isn't a character theme
and the score is just to score
is there do you have a preference
in terms of when you're scoring
I think it really depends
character themes can be quite on the nose
so if you're doing an animation
or you're doing
you know a fantasy film
you may want to do that
but it's quite
sort of paint by numbers.
Sometimes you want to think of it differently
where you might have emotional themes in the film
and you want to write music for that
and then and that doesn't necessarily apply
to specific characters.
And, well, you also work with some other pop stars as well.
That is true, yeah.
Like Katie Townsdale, Tom O'Dell,
and the cinematic orchestra.
And Sheney O'Connor?
Yeah, I wrote a song for Shnade
on the end of the young Victoria.
Amazing.
Yeah, that was amazing.
And do you have a favourite type of film,
genre of film that you really like to do the music for?
You know what?
Not really...
You know what the answer to that question is?
I just want to work with nice people
and, like, fun people
because, you know, there's a lot of...
In all the arts.
Are we allowed to say that?
Yes, yes.
I can say that.
There are.
There are a lot of dick.
working in all the arts and actually what you want to do is you want to find
because especially at the start of my career I worked with some really famously difficult people
like Harvey Weinstein and Dino de Laurentis and I just and I think you know and they're amazing
and I'm so glad I have those stories and thanks to those people for giving me a shot early on
but I think you know there was a revelation for me at one point where I thought actually you can
work with really nice people the creative process does
doesn't have to be fraught and angst and and I and you get much better results that way when you have a respectful creative
collaboration so anyone who anyone who's making a film that that is nice and calm I'm in I'm with you I'm not always calm but I'm nice
I had that revelation probably I think only two years ago no it was 17 14 I think I had that revelation in about 2014 because I'm always I'm always I mean I mean you know me you know
me when I when I when I'm annoyed people know I'm annoyed blah blah blah blah you know I can
be angry whatever like that but essentially I'm a nice guy right yeah but I have always
my whole life gone out of my way to help people like I'm always oh I do this I do that I do
this I do that and in about 2014 it literally was thrown so hard back in my face I literally
had that revelation and I was like from now on I'm only going to work with people I
like. I don't care how famous
you are. I don't care what you've done.
I don't care what Oscars you've won or anything like that. If I don't
like you, I'm not working with you.
And do you know what? My life
as Eminem says in one of his tracks, my life
has been so much
better. I'm telling you, bro.
Like, honestly, so I'm with you. Yeah, it's true, isn't it?
Yeah. It's true, man. People who
are energy suckers and bring you down. Energy
vampires. Yeah, you've got to just
yeah. I'm learning that as well. I'm cutting
away, man. So I'm digging that. I'm glad you
said that young people please listen to that you know it's it's easy to just work with people because
you want to get by but actually working with someone to get somewhere when actually you're just
going to be miserable for years or months it's just months or years is not the one it's like you just be
happy you know what I mean that's the best way and do you have I know I was asking this is a bit
like picking a favourite child but do you have a favorite score that you've done that you're like yeah
it's my favorite one um I it's a very hard question to answer but one of the you know what
One of the things that gives me the most joy is that the young Victoria,
which is a love story about Queen Victoria and Prince Albert.
The music from that is kind of quite regal and romantic.
And more than anything else, I get emailed about that score
from people who are getting married all over the world
who want that music played at their wedding.
And I think of all the things, all the things,
all the triumphs have had nominations or awards or, you know, sold records.
Actually, the greatest and biggest compliment is that.
That little, to think so many, literally hundreds of weddings
where people have had my music play at their moment.
For their moment.
It's amazing, yeah.
And that's the hugest, biggest compliment in the thing I think that I'm probably most proud of.
That's amazing.
That's amazing, man.
That's really cool.
It'd be interesting if some people wanted, like, kick-ass play at their wedding, though.
I bet there's some people, right?
Yeah, we'd be like, I'm having the kick-class music play at my wedding.
You know, like those people who get married on the water or extreme weddings, right?
Skydiving.
Skydiving.
And that's just in the headphones, and the priest's just like, ah!
No, I had a friend who the groom wanted to come down the aisle to Star Wars.
And I was like, no, no, don't let him do that.
Did he do it?
No, he wasn't allowed to do it.
Yeah, she put the car wash on that, man.
But, yeah, that would have been, I mean, since that's a kind of wedding, but it's something you're
No. No, she wasn't having it.
See, but that's what's what...
Now, nerds are cool, right?
So that's what happens when those become cool.
Geek-sheek.
Geek-sheek.
Well, Jedi is a religion now, isn't it?
Is it?
Yes, it's a recognised religion.
Because you only have to have, like, 200,000 people decide to start a religion,
and then it has to be recognised.
And a few years back they did it, so Jedi is now a recognised religion.
Wow.
Weirdly.
Are we all Star Wars fans?
Yeah, I am.
I am.
I just don't know whether I'd have it as my recognised religion.
You can.
You can now.
You can choose it.
Yeah.
Well, what that be like on your passport?
Well, then if, hold on, if you were two Jedi's getting married,
then you could have the Star Wars music down there.
In that occasion, it would make sense.
But this person, neither of them were recognised Jedi.
So I thought it was a bit disrespectful to all the recognized Jedi's out there
to take their music.
That's why there was a couple.
Well, thank you so much for coming in.
This has been brilliant.
Yeah.
And just quickly, is there anything?
What's your sort of next, the next, what's coming for this year?
Yeah, well, I can.
I can.
Yeah, I've got Riviera coming out.
Sky.
Sky.
Big show.
Yeah.
So excited about that.
Did you do the whole thing or did you mentor anyone on that one?
No, no, I did the whole thing.
Fantastic.
You know, it was produced by a couple of friends of mine, Chris Ticier and Liza Marshall.
Yes, I know them.
Yeah.
So it was nice to work with them.
They're good guys.
And, yeah, it's good fun.
It's glamorous.
It's a good show.
Yeah, it is a good show.
And any personal things that you're, you're,
doing in personal projects music-wise?
Yeah, I'm writing, well, I just wrote
ballet, so,
and I'm doing another ballet, so that's
a new thing for me.
Fantastic. Lots of ballet. Lots of ballet.
And Ralph Fines's ballet.
Well, that is true. It seems to be a lot of ballet in my life.
The year is a ballet.
Trying to bring, like, you know,
not make it boring and classical.
Did that inspire you? The one you were doing for him
kind of inspire you to do your own ones, or were you all?
No, actually, I was doing my own one first,
and then he came along with this ballet script.
So, yeah.
And so did you go when he was like, oh, I want to do a ballet?
You know, oh, I need to work so hard on this and just palmed off some of your music.
Well, no, because it's a biopic.
I wish I could have done.
Great.
All the best of luck.
Thank you so much for coming in on Backcountry.
Thanks for having me.
A pleasure.
All right.
Here we're going to go to a little bit of music from Riverdale.
I'm loving their soundtrack at the moment.
Sorry, no, you're probably going to like it, but I'm loving it.
With Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio.
Alright. You know what? You weren't a fan.
What was that song? Was it from Riverdale?
Yeah, if you see my boyfriend by De Nora.
Me? I like it.
What a nice lullaby that was. I got to tell you.
Is it like the show? Is the show as exciting as that song?
The show is very exciting.
It's full of gorgeous people and thrilling plot lines.
I'll assure you.
Well, I'll be the judge of that one.
My daughter loves it as well.
Oh, she's 13.
And that, my friend, is hello to Ron Scarpo.
Is that the pronunciation?
The real Ron.
No, you go right, yeah.
Boom.
The real Ron.
So your daughter loves Riverdale?
Apparently, so, I've never watched it.
And she's been watching 13 Ways to Die, which apparently I should watch.
You don't let her watch that show.
I know.
You know, Netflix is sort of taking her into a different world.
Yeah, don't let her watch that show, man.
I know.
That show in particular is just, um...
It's a dark one.
It's a very good show, I'll be honest.
But like, I feel like...
Maybe I'm turning into a parent, I don't know.
I feel like it just...
It's kind of sort of giving kids ideas, man.
No, no, they're all talking about it in the school.
Yeah, you should have...
I read about it in the paper.
and suddenly it's a current, you know, current trend.
Look, I'm not one of those, because I play a lot of video games.
And when I was young, all the adults were like,
don't play video games, you're going to go out and shoot.
And I've never gone out and shot people.
So I'm not saying the show will do that.
But it's quite detailed in how the girl does a thing.
And I just think if you're of a fragile mind, especially with social media these days.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah, watch that one.
But I think, yeah, it's a, well, let's talk about why Ron is him.
Yeah, why not?
Because you didn't make 13 reasons while, Riverdale.
But you did make, my name is Lenny.
My name is Lenny.
Indeed, yes.
Which I hadn't heard about the film, but I had heard about the book.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Well, hold on, let's tell people what, tell people actually what my name is
about and who Lenny was.
Obviously, Noel and I a bit about this, but Lenny McLean was a legendary East London figure.
I suppose whose book, The Governor, was a book that sold all over the world,
millions of copies.
And I think most people were known from his came or appearance in Lockstock in two years.
smoking barrels with guy
Richie
which was near the end of his life actually
wasn't very well on that
on that shoot but
his story lives on and the book's been
around for a long time and the film's been
tried to be up and running for about 10, 12 years
and bizarrely just as I came in
it shows how international this guy is
there's a tweet from Mickey Rourke
from saying
you know he's sent a picture of like the governor
photo you know book cover
I've heard there's a film coming out about your life
rest in peace Lenny you are the only original street fighter well so you know just shows you how far
his story's traveled and the film's about his life his times and uh his rise set in the 70s
yeah late 70s 97 78 time we've saying there's three legendary fights if you look on
YouTube with a guy called a roy shaw which we've got Michael Bisping yeah pretty boy yeah pretty boy sure
so we've got played by Michael Bisping you know friend of mine yeah Michael Bisping yeah so he came
UFC middleweight champion of the world yeah absolutely we
We're really lucky with the cast.
We've got, you know, a great guy called Josh Helman playing Lenny McLean.
Yeah.
The legendary sister John Hurt, unfortunately, passed away this year.
Yes.
Chanel Cresswell from This Is England, a brilliant Bafel-Warney actor.
And Nick Moran, who knew Lenny from Lockstock.
Wow.
And Charlie Ruffel Pomer, who's a great up-and-coming actor as well.
So, you know, the script was tight, it attracted great cast,
and we showed last September in North and East London.
Yeah.
I remember when Michael was here, actually, doing it.
Yeah.
So, mate, and how was it shooting with all those cars together?
Like, when you watched, when you looked at them on set,
were you like, man, this is surreal, bearing in mind
the stories being around for so long?
Well, it's interesting, you know, for Jamie, the son of Lenny.
I mean, they've been trying to get the film up and running about 12 years.
I think Jason Stafel was originally looked at it,
and there's been other great actors who have looked at it.
And so for him, it was a real sort of journey
to get that film actually been recorded.
You know, it was very emotional times when the wardrobe thing came in
and Josh walked onto set.
And when you're adapting life stories, it's a very different relationship you have.
I mean, you notice as much as no, it's like, you know, as a storyteller,
you're coming to other people's worlds.
And sometimes if you look like you're a vulture, you kind of go in and grab parts of people's lives,
but these are lived experiences.
So there's a real sense of responsibility about it.
But then when you get the cast there and they're in costume and it's 1970s and we're a working men's club.
Amazing.
And Jamie's wellowing up because he's almost seen a kind of apparition of his father walking in.
And people will know Lenny, sort of double blinking and the voice and suddenly.
You know, Michael's there playing Roy Shaw,
and we're re-creating this kind of mad,
unlicensed boxing world in North East London,
in a great working men's club.
And it's, you know, I don't know if you,
but when great actors turn up on set,
you feel very privileged to be with them.
Yeah, it's amazing to watch, isn't it?
Because you know you're making something special.
Yeah, yeah.
We hope so.
I mean, I think it's a unique film,
and it's surprised people.
And if people don't know the story of Lenny,
where does the film sort of start from and pick up on,
and where does it, what's the sort of arc of this of Lenny?
Well, we worked with the script for about two or three, you know, the script being developed for a long time,
and the version of it came to me last February.
And I said, look, let's try and compress everything that's about that happened in his life and his childhood and those three great fights.
And maybe tell a kind of story that gets the heart of his life and also goes into what constructed this really hyper-masculine, hyper-violent and slightly dysfunctional character.
And we create the epic free act structure around the idea of we kind of catch him on the verge of losing everything, people that he loves, the way that he's created.
and a dysfunctional past that's haunting the present.
So on one level it's been sold
as quite a tough movie about streetfire
but on another level it's about madness and chaos
and, you know, funny enough, as you do work,
you come across quotes that seem to
express what the film's about.
There's a great quote by Frederick Douglass
that I came across towards the end of the film
which was like, it's easier to build strong children
than repair broken men.
And it's suddenly I just read that quote
within two weeks of finishing all the post with that.
I think in a weird way that was what he was trying to do with the film, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a great quote actually.
That's a great quote actually.
And so how many fights did Lenny have in his life?
I think he was fine, like twice a week on the streets, on the cobbles, as they say.
Yeah.
Bare knuckle, unlicensed, anything goes.
And deep within him there's a rage.
And he could kind of get to that rage very quickly and be the most destructive thing and the most formidable thing.
I think because his pain fresh job was so vast.
but weirdly as you do the research
a lot of the street fighters and coach fires
there are lots of stories of kind of
physical, mental, emotional and sometimes
sexual abuse, especially in the current trend.
And it was fascinating for us when
we did the research. We had, they've got this great
fighter called Deke Heckerheke's, the current street fight
and champion of the Great Britain, you know,
bullied, and he's like this quiet
gentleman from the North West.
But just one day decided I'm not having it.
He's not having, he just changed his life around.
And I was watching a lot of Grace and Perry
about masculinity at the time. And there's this idea of
some sort of gaffiris takes place.
You know, that from violence,
there's a kind of emotional understanding
that these guys have of themselves
and then they get beyond it, which was fascinating.
Well, there was a thing saying that
if you're someone who punches something,
basically that is,
there's a wire wrong in your,
expressing yourself emotionally.
So what you should be doing is there's, like, healthy ways
to get certain things out that are painful,
crying or talking it out,
or there's lots of ways to de-stress.
stress yourself.
But if you were,
if that was like stubbed from an early age,
if you were taught not to use those methods,
it physically comes out as a punch.
And if you're someone who will,
you go, you punch something,
it's actually like, it's a sign that you,
you're not, you've wired it wrong,
essentially.
Well, I think that, you know,
there's a lot of cross wires going on in the film
and I think, I won't give too much away,
you'll see those, those misfires.
And, you know, it's a visceral movie.
It's upsetting.
It's powerful.
and no.
And so just so people know, the film is getting put out by Lionsgate distribution.
Yeah, they did all right with your movie, didn't I?
Yeah, big studio.
Yeah, big studio. They did Brotherhood as well.
I'm joking.
I mean, obviously, you had massive success of that.
Yeah, we love Lionsgate.
Sure.
You know, but my point is, it's like, if, you know, people are, you know,
if some people are sitting there going, well, you know, it's another East End film,
it's not, you know, it is, but it's a big studio is putting out,
a Lionsgate are backing it.
So, essentially, you know, people aren't just going to think, you know, they can think,
oh, this is a legit movie, you know, as opposed to...
Yeah, we know what genre we were talking about,
and it's the kind of mockney-cockney thing,
and I think there's two versions of that.
I mean, I personally hated legend.
I thought it was a kind of a West End version of East London,
and I've also hated films like, you know, The Rise of the Cray's,
because I think that's just the kind of a bravado thing,
selling, you know, cliches in many ways, you know,
and they disrespect the filmmakers, which I've just done.
But, you know, it wasn't the sort of...
I mean, there's an audience for it.
Yeah.
It wasn't the sort of film we wanted to make, do you know what?
I liked Tom Hardy
Because I liked Tom Hardy really
That's different though
I know it's different
Fancy in him going
Oh it's different too
So the film is out when exactly
That's why I was getting at
Yeah we've got a big launch on June 9th
At the East London Film Festival
At the York Hall
1,200 of East London's finest
We'll be in attendance
Fantastic
And it's on general release
Across the UK
For that weekend
And as ever with these sort of British independent movies
We have a quick fire
simultaneous release
Coming out the week after that
Fantastic
That's the way now of a lot of the films, man.
To maximise the audience is to really, you know,
kind of get them straight out on the digital
so people at home can be like, mate, I want that, you know.
I think that's the case, you know.
I go to the Holloway Odin, you see the big budget movies
and you see the children movies that I love
and take the family to and enjoy.
But it's very hard with British dramas now
to encourage the audience to go.
And it's a never, it's a diminishing returns in a way.
The less people go to British movies,
the less companies feel endorsed to invest.
I've said it in a million times.
And you've got to reverse the trend and also the whole idea of what a working class character is
and how we portray that.
For sure.
For sure.
Yeah, it's very difficult.
It's very difficult.
It also opens up a lot of not work, not on just behind the screens because people are working in,
because you filmed it in East London.
Sure.
So you've got people can work in that area.
And also for actors who necessarily aren't like, you know, the Hollywood type and then they get roles.
Yeah, I don't want to get too kind of class orientated about it.
But, you know, I always brought up on Alan Clark.
Yeah.
And you look at the actors.
that came out, the Alan Clark School were films,
Tim Roth, Gary Oldman, Ray Winston,
to name but a few, do you know?
Working class boys. And, you know, there
were stories there that allowed these actors to go on to become
like, well, you know, massive
great actors, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
There's just got to be more stories like that, for more diverse
stories, people with different voices, you know?
But, you know, like you said, it becomes difficult because
we get pumped so full of American
things that the British audience kind of are blinded,
and when a British film comes on, they don't
always go out to the cinema to support
it, which then makes it more difficult for the
studios to put them in a cinema and it becomes this vicious circle.
Break the circle, people.
Break the circle.
Spread the word.
Yeah, go out and sit.
I think you'll be, in a weird way, it's nothing like being in the cinema.
You know, we've got 1200 there at the Yolkorn.
I know there'll be other cinemas do a live Q&A, but, you know...
Yeah, being in a cinema is a better, it's such an experience, man.
Yeah, I love the cinema.
I've been taking my boys, my oldest boy, been going cinema since he was 18 months,
and I've done the same with the other two.
And, you know, they love the cinema.
They love going to cinema with Daddy, so I always encourage people to go to the cinema.
I'm like, once or twice a week with my kids.
Yeah.
Oh, I can't go about it.
Good dads.
Yeah, good dads.
Good daddy dads.
We never know.
Sit there, freedom popcorn.
You know, I don't know.
Watch that, eat a popcorn and shut up.
Brilliant.
Right, we're talking about my name is Lenny,
which is going to be out June 9th.
Yeah.
Make sure you go and support, guys.
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thanks for me, Ryan, soon.
Great luck.
You know, I really enjoy the show.
And the hip-hop is really good as well.
Yeah.
Damn it.
All right.
Let's have a little bit more on then.
I'll see if you like this.
Thanks a lot, man.
Yeah, good luck.
Thanks.
the speakers with heat seekers and keep sneakers
Back row and chill
with Johanna James and Noel Clark
on Fubar Radio
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It's being about 90%
I'm kind of liking it
Okay good I'm catering high praise
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Right we've got Lucy Patterson
Hello
Film reviewer come in to review
some movies
And joining at home
If you've got any films
that you want to rave about
Or want to tell us that a shit
Do let us know
It's tweet us at Fubbar
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chill at Fubouradio.com. Tell us about the
films. Because I've seen
some stuff and I want to review it.
Lucy, you can go first.
Lucy's it! Do it! Do it!
I'm going to just quickly mention Alien Covenant
because you talked about it in quite a lot of detail
last week. I went to see it
I wasn't overwhelmed by it.
I liked it but then
if you've seen any alien film
then you've seen them all.
It's quite gory and quite violent and I liked that.
and a highlight for me was seeing Danny McBride
in a relatively straight role
and it was nice to see him, you know,
prove his acting chops and there was little bits of his personality
that came through which was nice to see as well.
I mean, go and see it if you like the alien films
because you do learn some origin stories
of the actual aliens and things like that.
And it's a beautifully made film.
You know, and I like the fact that there was a slightly retro score to it.
It sounded a bit Star Trek-y, you know,
and I quite like that.
So, yeah, go and see that.
I like the sort of
pathogen
storyline. It's a bit zombie-esque.
I did, but you didn't actually get any
origin to that either.
My friend Lee actually messaged me earlier saying,
you know, we didn't really know where that came from.
Like, where did you get the dust?
Was it the exact word?
Is it connected to Prometheus?
Yeah, it's like...
So is that the dust from the thing
that made the thing in the eye in Prometheus?
This is 10 things.
This is 10 years after Prometheus.
Is the girl still in it?
Which girl?
The one that escaped on the ship.
she died
she's gone
she did
don't want to give
too many spoilers
but this film
it gives origins
to the origins
but we need origins
for these origins
it needs to go
a bit
by the back
you know
I'm not sold
by you guys
description
I'm not sold
I think it was a good
trip to the cinema
like it was
it wasn't wasted
it was everything
and it was an alien
movie
yeah
like I said
if you like the alien
movies
then go and see it
because it delivers
on what an alien
movie should deliver on
you know
and I was scared of the alien
and I watched on my own
Yeah, that was pretty jumpy actually.
I must admit, you're very brave doing that, Johanna.
I'm very proud of you.
Yeah.
Well, I had to.
I had to see it because I was interviewing Danny McBride.
Oh, yeah.
So I had to force myself.
Not much choice there.
Hey, Danny, how are you?
Haven't seen your fucking film, but...
Tell me about it.
Like, it was great.
Yeah, so I went to see that and I thought, okay,
I'm going to see something else because obviously you spoke about it last week.
So I went to see Mindhorn.
Mindhorn.
You know, any time a British film comes out,
I have to go to the cinema and support it, you know,
whether I think it's going to be shit or not.
Mindhorn.
is Julian Barrett of the Mighty Bush.
Yes.
He's basically a washed up old TV star that used to be a detective called Minehorn,
funny enough.
And it's a murder mystery, and it's typical Julian Barrett humor.
You know, so I did laugh out loud.
It was funny.
Yeah.
But unfortunately, Russell Tovey is in it.
And, you know, he might be a nice guy now,
but he actually ripped my friend's heart out when we were in our 20s.
So whenever I see his face, it really ends.
thing. So if you haven't got a thing against
Russell Tovey, go and see it, go and support this British
film and laugh it. It is funny.
It's well made
in the sense that they've done things
down so much. It looks like it's supposed
to be terrible. Do you see what I mean?
And they've done it really well to take
the gloss off of it.
And it's got a very impressive cast as well. So yeah, go
and see it and support the British film. Mindorn. I've seen loads of
promo pictures of it all on the tube and stuff.
Like 70s style, you've got a bit of cash and stuff, yeah.
seen absolutely nothing, mainly because I haven't been in the country.
I was going to say you have got an excuse.
Wait, I might have a new cart-hawk wall thing for that, so it made you go.
Yeah.
Yes.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
Okay, cool, cool.
Has that always been there?
No, that's just popped up.
Oh, lovely.
After your request, well done, Abing.
Well done.
Well done. I like that.
So I watched Snatched.
Oh, I'm so happy you did.
I'm going to go and see that.
which was Amy Schumer
and
the thing of me Bob's mom
Goldie Horn
Goldie Horn
Yeah different names
Kate Hudson
I can hear Kay Hudson
I was like the mum's not called Hudson
so I don't know what yet
which was
I'm really excited to see
which was good
but I think I
I overestimated how funny it was going to be
because I love Amy Schumer
I do she's amazing
I went in there like
yeah
this is going to be brilliant
and I was kind of like
I wasn't as hysterical
as I thought it was going to be
but I feel like
her films are kind of watered down her humour
because if you watch her Amy Schumer show
or her stand-up, she's really funny
but then train wreck was like mildly amusing at best
John Senor was the funniest thing
and he's a wrestler.
So I'm not surprised that this one was kind of...
I think really she sort of has to water it down
because otherwise everything,
yeah but everything would be, you know,
18 R-rated and she'd lose a huge chunk of audience.
No, I think times have changed.
I mean,
it was only a couple years ago
they would never dare make an R-rated
superhero movie. That is very true.
And then, you know, there was kick-ass and everyone was like,
oh, that kind of works, but it only works because it wasn't a
comic book that we all knew about. And then there was
like, Logan's just come out and was R-rated.
Deadpool. Deadpool.
So why, you know, sausage party
was an adult animation.
So why should Amy Schumer actually walk down a comedy?
Maybe what she should do is a film where her comedy is as it
should be. I bet you there are so many
girls would be like, that's what I've been thinking.
But no one's ever wanted to say it.
Yeah.
That's what I reckon.
There was some very good,
there were some really good moments in there.
And it is a,
it's a mother-daughter movie.
And so obviously then there was like,
the drama bit of it as well,
where they were obviously dysfunctional mother and daughter
and they kind of like work it out.
And so there was,
it was good.
And I think there was perfect casting.
I think she, like,
gone on, really just stepped up.
Excellent.
I don't think she's done a film in something like five years.
It's been a while.
Yeah.
And I couldn't tell you what her last one was, yeah.
She's come out of retirement for this.
Oh, brilliant.
Has she really, though?
Or has she just been chilling?
She might be offended if she hears.
It's like, out of retirement.
Movie retirement.
Well, she's been, you know,
she's been off the game, out the game a little bit.
So, yeah, I thought it was good.
And I thought it was just random story.
So that was sort of mom and daughter.
No, the daughter gets dumped.
Yeah.
So she has to take her mom on holiday to, like,
Phil, like, non-refundable.
Fantastic.
Putting the fun in non-refundable.
That's still a line.
there. And they end up going to Ecuador and then getting kidnapped.
Snatched. But I thought it was going to be, yeah, a little bit more considering like
it's called snatched, which is like, you know, yeah.
I'll play on vaginas.
Is it? Yeah. The snatch. You're snatch. Really?
Yeah. Snatch is a vagina. I didn't know that.
Are you just trying to get a stagina again?
Stop it. My mum, listen.
Come on. How could I not know the girls?
I'm just pointing at me. I'm just pointing at my head.
you ever used it in the sentence
I never ever referred to it as my snatch.
No, no.
You just did.
But not really.
What did you call it then?
On a little sidetrack.
My beauty.
You do not.
Excuse me while I've vomited into this month.
I'll call it that from now on though.
That's amazing.
Yeah, my beauty.
My beauty.
My, uh, fanny.
Yeah, he's fanny.
I say fanny.
Oh, great.
How class are you guys are.
Yeah, my fanny.
You're my fennie.
Yeah, me, you're a fanny.
It is my fanny.
Yeah, me, you're in.
particularly ethics it's nunny.
You're nunny?
Yeah.
Oh, lovely.
That's an Essex thing.
Anyway, back on to Phil.
Right.
So I thought that it was good.
It was good.
And if you want to go, I think it would be really great to go just with mates or girlfriends and have a laugh.
I'm not sold.
I'm not sold.
Oh, I'm definitely going to go.
So, yeah, I did want to see it.
But I think I was just picking out way too much in my mind.
So I'm disappointed.
I wish I'd go on just like, that's the thing.
So guys, the girls are saying, go see Snatch and go see Alien Covenant.
Go see Snatch.
Go see any covenant.
And God see Mindhorn as well.
And Mindhorn, the British film.
Don't forget.
And I finished Riverdale on Netflix.
Oh, Ridicdale.
So I was very happy about that.
And they're commissioned season two.
I'm so excited about that.
Oh, man.
What world are my?
It's so good.
These two were like complete, like twin sisters.
Riverdale.
Oh, yeah, and I love it.
Me too.
I'm saying something about that.
Oh, and Amy Schumer.
Oh, yeah, I saw that as well.
Oh, Alien Covenant.
I didn't like, what I am I felt back into?
But it's true.
You know what?
I hardly ever fan girl.
And I used to think I was like this.
Oh, I do. I'm terrible.
I used to be this weird, like, feel like an alien.
I didn't fancy anyone.
Everyone's like, oh my God, Justin Bieber.
And like, David Beckham, I'm like, nothing, nothing.
I'm like, am I gay?
Nothing's going on.
And I finally found someone that I can purve over.
Jughead.
Jughead.
What's the guy's name?
Colesbrouse.
Who?
Oh my God.
No.
Who was Ben from Friends.
You guys should go to jail.
Oh, my God.
Coles Price.
Cole is the little kid from Big Daddy.
I know.
And he was in friends as like a five-year-old.
He plays Ross's son, he was friends, which is weird.
And now you guys are, like, juicing over him.
Well, I think I've got, like, 10 years on Johanna as well, so I'm probably worse.
But it's okay, he's like 24.
Yeah.
He's fine.
He's 24.
Yeah.
That's completely acceptable.
We checked.
We have already.
Together, you checked together.
We've already been like, are we allowed to, yeah, we are legally allowed to masturbate to this person.
It's fine.
Exactly.
We've got to be seen about that.
He's gorgeous.
And do you know what?
He, Cole Spouse, he is going places.
Oh, definitely.
someone nice to look at. He's acting. He's acting
everybody off the show. He is and he's an amazing
photographer as well because obviously I stalked his
Instagram. Oh my God.
Right guys it's been great. It's been great.
I've been so glad to be back. I'm going to see you next
week maybe. You're the week after or something. See you later.
Love it.
No, it's gone. No, it's gone. Bye.
Too feminine. Too many fannies.
Sorry, did someone say my favorite word?
But I really
I recommend it and I love the fact that
it's so 50s
because they've taken it from the 50s comic so they've
kept that 50s style.
I think it's beautifully made.
And the way that they filmed it, just cinematography-wise, is beautiful.
Everything's neon-lite.
Did you guys ever read the comics?
Because I used to read Archie comics back in a day,
so I know what about Archie and Betty, I think, and Jughead.
I don't remember the blonde one.
I don't remember the other one's name, but...
Veronica.
Veronica, yeah.
Because I used to read those comics.
Archie in the gang.
If everyone's like, what is this Riverdale?
It's actually about this twin brother and sister
go into the woods on the 4th of July
and the brother gets murdered.
and it's like who done it in the town
and anybody,
or everybody could have technically
probably done it.
Yeah, everybody's got some sort of motive
and everybody's got some sort of suspicion on them.
But then on top of that, they've got...
And this is on what? Netflix?
This is on Netflix.
Netflix's original.
It's got gorgeous, like, neon Riverdale.
It looks like...
Maybe I'll check it out.
It's so beautiful.
I mean, I don't know if it's going to be up your street, no.
But as a kind of like, fast-paced drama,
they just swish it along.
It's brilliant.
But I have a problem, though.
If I start so, I'm going to have to watch it.
Really?
Well, then you'd better start it.
Well, maybe I shouldn't.
And it's all on there.
She's not sure if it's up my street.
I don't know if it's up your street, not.
So if I watch it, I have to finish it, which is an annoying thing I have.
Really?
Yeah, I can't.
Because, you know, you never know if something's going to be genius right at the end.
No, you don't.
That's true.
Well, it's terrible.
And at the end, something happens.
You're like, oh, my God.
That's genius.
That happens a lot.
So it does happen a lot.
It changes the tone of the film completely.
You just think, oh, you know, I just watch an amazing thing.
So, watch Split.
I recommend.
You go home and watch Split and I'm going to go rewatch Riverdale just for the end.
Well, I need to watch the last episode because I didn't realize there was another one.
Okay, and anything else that era people should check out girls?
That was what I did for the week.
I've had a very, very busy week.
Because actually I was going to play if we've got time.
Oh, no, we don't have time.
What was you going to play?
Because I had recently, talk about movies and stuff,
my last viral video was a horror movie spoof.
Which got like 20 million views on Facebook.
and it was me and my boyfriend.
We spoofed horror movie.
Maybe I'll play it on the outro.
I think you should.
People can go check it out.
Why don't we play it next week so you get the whole thing?
Yeah.
Well, I've been trying to pay it for three weeks now.
I've always forget.
But you can check it out on my Facebook page.
You know how to Jay?
And yeah, for sure.
I will go and watch that.
It sounds like something I would like.
Never mind.
Okay, I'll pick it something else to play for the end.
I'm going to pick...
Well, actually, this song is from the Angry Birds movie.
No, not judge me.
It was a fun song.
That was a good film.
That was a good film of a good soundtrack.
It's a good film.
Everybody's a good film.
Guys, enjoy the movies this weekend.
Have a good time.
Everyone going to see King Arthur.
I'm still not over the fact that it's being ripped to shit.
Oh, yeah, I want to see.
That was the next one.
I'm not happy.
I'm not happy.
I don't see that.
All right, we can battle us out.
We're going to have like a finger-thumb war here.
And I'm going to play out.
Wonderful life by my time.
Have a good weekend.
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