Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 39 - Duane Henry, Gareth O’Connor & Jed Shepard

Episode Date: June 5, 2017

Noel was flying solo this week – almost! Noel’s on-screen wife Shanika Warren joined him as his guest co-host. Also on the show Jed Shepard to talk about Dawn of The Deaf at this years London Sund...ance Festival and Duane Henry popped by for a way overdue catch up. Also in the studio was the very talented Gareth O’Connor to talk new play Danny in the Deep Blue Sea. Last but not least, our resident film reviewer Lucy Patterson join Noel and Shanika to talk the newest film releases.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. With Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Oh my gosh, straight out of Compton. Listen, Clark is flying solo today. Johanna James is not here. So now I kind of know what it feels like.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I know what it feels like to kind of go solo. But listen, so first things first. firstly I just want to say fuck the weather because it was sunny outside I get on the train and all of a sudden I come out pouring with rain so that's the first thing I want to say secondly I'm supposed to be doing this show with
Starting point is 00:00:46 Shinika Warren Marklin but typically typically in diva fashion Sanika Warren Marklin is late so so that's the next thing right now before they're just fiddling with the camera in here it's winding me up before we go on to anything else
Starting point is 00:01:00 we have a competition there's a competition that we are hosting on football radio back row and chill Johanna James and the whole clock as always and this competition for you guys is to win wait for it is to win
Starting point is 00:01:12 Wonder Woman goodies a prize bundle so this prize bundle includes gauntlets and a tiara and a key ring right so so I mean who doesn't want a tiara you know you can wear it yourself
Starting point is 00:01:26 you can let your misses wear it or your or your fellow wear it you know there's gauntlets which are fancy names for bracelets and a key ring to adorn your keys and make them special Wonder Woman keys. I mean, that sounds brilliant. All you have to do is go to Food Bar Radio's Twitter page at Food Bar Radio. Give them a follow, if you're not following them already, which you should be,
Starting point is 00:01:45 and retweet the picture that they are posting right now. Retweet that picture that they're posting right now and at Food Bar's Twitter at Fuel Bar Radio, make sure you're following them, and you could win these Wonder Woman goodies. Wonder Woman goodies, Tiara Gauntlets in the key room. and that was straight out of Compton by of course NWA now if you guys have not seen that film you need to see that film that is an absolutely brilliant film and of course based upon the life and times
Starting point is 00:02:15 of NWA who made brilliant music it has been a great week for film the Cannes Film Festival has just finished and also we've had lots of new films that are going to be released this week some of the films that are going to be released this week are of course we've got Baywatch Baywatch, Director Seth Gordon, I've no idea who those, starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson,
Starting point is 00:02:38 Zach Abdominal Ephron, Pryanka Chopra and a bunch of other people. Now, now, I used to watch Baywatch when I was a kid. I used to watch Baywatch with David Hasselhoff and, you know, all that kind of stuff. And, you know, it was, I don't know if you guys did. If you used to watch Baywatch, please do emailing. I'm emailing to Chill at Fubaradio.com. That is Chill at FubarRadio.com. That is Chill at Fubbar.
Starting point is 00:03:02 radio.com. I used to watch Baywatch, and I thought it was a pretty decent, but rubbish show. You know what I mean? One of those shows that you watch, kind of like, but it wasn't great, especially when you rewatch it when you're older. But I was kind of excited for the film, I thought, this is going to be cool. They're going to make it, you know, quite thrilling and blah, blah, blah, blah, and they're going to save lives in the water.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And my understanding is that it's a comedy. So I'm not really sure how I feel about that. I'm not really sure I feel about my love for Baywatch being mocked and turned into a comedy. but Zach Ephron has a good body. He's getting close to a Clark-type body. The Rock is also getting arms as good as almost as good as mine. So I'm happy for these guys. And I think it hasn't done too well in America.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I think he's not doing too well in America at the moment. And I don't really know what it's going to do here. But if you like that sort of thing and you want to see the Rock and Zach Ephron with their tops off, Baywatch is out. Also Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman 3D, it says, but does anyone really care about 3D anymore? I don't know. I definitely don't. It messes up my eyes.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Wonder Woman is out. Now, I'm super excited about this film. DC never seemed to get any films right. I'm sorry, DC. I'm a big comment book fan. I used to read comments. You guys do not get any films right. You've got the first two Batman films right with Christian Bale.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That's because Nolan did him. And by the third one, I think he was kind of bored. Because honestly, I'm not the third one, I'm not sure. Superman. I love Superman. Film wasn't good. Batman versus Superman, not good Green Arrow, not good
Starting point is 00:04:34 Sorry, not Green Arrow That's a TV show Green Lantern, Ryan Reynolds, not good So, but I'm excited about this I'm excited about Wonder Woman I've heard it's good I'm hoping DC can finally get on the same path With the same skills as Marvel
Starting point is 00:04:50 Because I think their films are a lot better Even though DC does television a lot better So Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman, go see Wonder Woman Another film that's out is also Daughters of the dust. Now this is an alternative thing, but I think it's something that, you know, people should
Starting point is 00:05:06 take a look at. It is a film that is kind of, you know, it broke new ground with black women and screen and inspires filmmakers alike. It seems like it's more of a documentary type movie. I'm a bit confused here, because I've not actually seen this. But anyway, alternative view in doors of the dust.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I've no idea what it is, to be honest, but go check that out. Other interested news this week is the Canfield Festival, as we know, the Canfield Festival. came out and there was a lot of exciting things going on there. We, interestingly, had a weird sort of irony in the film festival
Starting point is 00:05:42 because I think this is important. Jessica Chastain, who is a wonderful actress, someone that everyone should respect one of the best actresses in the world, said she found the portrayal of women at the Cannes Film Festival disturbing. And I think what she means by disturbing was she was on the jury this year so she watched 20 films in 10 days which is sometimes what you have to do
Starting point is 00:06:06 in a jury and she felt like the representation of women was not was not good the women there wasn't enough women in the stories and of course when the women were in the stories they weren't provocative enough they didn't have their own agency
Starting point is 00:06:22 and they just reacted to the men around them and didn't really have their own point of view and I think if that really is the case in 2017, then more needs to be done. But I think we kind of know that already. So the irony, of course, is that then, and I wouldn't say this was because of those comments, but then the person who won Best Director, of course, at Cannes Film Festival,
Starting point is 00:06:46 was Sophia Coppola. She was awarded the jury award, making her the first female to do so since 1961. So sisters doing it for themselves, man. Like, I think that's a disgrace that she's the first woman since 1961, but I think what's probably happened is because of what Jessica Chastain is saying, is there is not enough women that are getting to make films at the level that are seen in the Cannes Film Festival. I don't know what we do about that. I really don't know what we do about that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Apart from the obvious of saying, well, let's give more women a chance. I mean, you want people to be good enough, not just be given opportunities for no reason. But at the same time, if women are not getting. opportunities, then they need to get opportunities. This leads me on to another interesting thing, which happened recently too, which was, of course, Emma Watson, who won the MTV Award for Best Actor, said that acting categories shouldn't be,
Starting point is 00:07:48 we talked about this last week, acting categories all the week before, acting categories shouldn't be separated between men and women. There should just be Best Actor and then Best Supporting Actor and, you know, a man or woman should be able to get that. Let me start out by saying I love Emma Watson. I really do. I think she's done really well. She's flying and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And I love where she's going with this idea. I think equality is something that we all want. I definitely know that if I had a daughter, I'd want her to grow up feeling that she could achieve anything and do anything and all that. Here's the issue with that. Currently, roles in the UK are seven to one. for every one role that a woman gets,
Starting point is 00:08:30 seven men get a role. So if you suddenly take away two awards from the awards categories, as in you don't have best actor and best actress, you only have best actor or best performance and one person get it, and you only have best supporting and one person get it, I mean, surely you're narrowing the odds
Starting point is 00:08:50 of women winning awards, because most of the juries are men, most of the memberships are men, and so how would, If suddenly you had Casey Affleck and all those guys at the Oscars up against, or the women at the Oscars, seven to one with only five nominations, how many,
Starting point is 00:09:07 you might not even get enough, you might not even get enough nominations for the women. So I love what Emma Watson's doing. I think it's a really great, great thing that she's saying. But I just think we should be wary of, you know, it's fine for her because she has millions of dollars, she's got her award,
Starting point is 00:09:25 she's up there winning awards. I just, I don't want women to be frozen out. And I think that if you had two less awards, there's a high chance that women would be frozen out completely. And I don't want that to happen. I love. So for me, right now, I'm all for keeping four awards. Just got an email in here.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Hi, Noel, this is my first time listening to your show already really enjoying it. I find it interesting what you're saying about Wonder Woman and Jessica Chastain. Who are your favorite female actors that are currently working in the UK? I'm a big fan of Gemma Artstant and Rosamon Pike, Stacey, from Stacey in Birmingham. Thank you, Stacey. Glad that you're listening. Well, Jessica Chastain is one of my
Starting point is 00:10:03 favourite female actresses, definitely. Also, Amy Adams. Amy Adams, I think. And Jennifer Connolly. I absolutely love Jennifer Connolly. I had a crush on her from when she was in Labyrinth. You should look that film up, Stacey. Probably too young to remember Labyrinth,
Starting point is 00:10:18 but she did a film called Labyrinth when I was in my teens, I think, and I used to crack them out over Jennifer Connolly, man, like massively, massively. I probably like, like eight billion kids have been gone of mine because of Jennifer Connolly. So, yeah, she's absolutely fantastic.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And as I've got older, I've just loved everything she's done. You know, she was in a beautiful mind. I think she wanted to ask her for that. One of her best performances was wrecking for a dream. So you should look up Jennifer Connolly and her stuff. Ignore Incredible Hulk. Just pretend that didn't happen. But other than that, she's absolutely fantastic actress.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Female actors working in the UK, hey, Olivia Coleman. I think we have to go there. Young people, Ella Pernell. Ella Pernell, great actress. And yeah, I think also I quite like Rosamond Pike as well. And Emily Blunt, I mean, she's kind of working more US, but Emily Blunt is an absolutely ledge.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So I think those are my ones. Thank you, Stacey. Right, so that's me for the minute. I think we are going to go to a little bit of music. Now, in the meantime, I'm going to wait for Shanika and cuss her the fuck out when she gets here late. Back, won't you? Fubar Radio presents. Josh, welcome to the studio.
Starting point is 00:11:37 You've started something called Rise Up. I have, yeah. We're just trying to reach out to young people in the UK and trying to get them to register. Only 40% of young people are voting right now. Why do you think young people need to vote? A lot of the policies that are happening at a moment, they're kind of favouring the people that do vote. not treating young people very well in this country and it's because they don't vote. So if you ain't making yourself heard, then whoever's in power ain't going to take any notes
Starting point is 00:12:02 of you. Every Monday. Sarah Love and My Stiggy. From 4pm, Fubar Radio. Yo, that was A.J. Tracy and fighting from a film called Brotherhood. I'm quite partial to that film. If you've not seen it, you should get out and see it. And that is one of the best tracks on the soundtrack.
Starting point is 00:12:20 AJ Tracy, produced by my man, Maniac. You got to watch the film. get the soundtrack, listen to that track. Speaking to AJ Tracy, before I get into some more film news, he's recently been posting on his, and talking about the trailer we just had there about voting. AJ Tracy's been posting about voting, and you, you young people are out there listening,
Starting point is 00:12:37 you definitely need to get voting, you need to vote because that election's coming up. And you mean, you look at these people like Theresa May, you look at her, how does she relate to you? She don't give a fuck. She doesn't give a fuck. Like get voting, go out and put your voice, make your voice heard.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Make your voice heard. Anyway, that was because of AJ, Tracy and him doing that and the link and blah blah blah. My mind goes on tangent sometimes. Anyway, back to film news. So, David Lynch, creator of watching Majegger, Twin Peaks, reckons that movie trailers are really harmful.
Starting point is 00:13:10 So he's been saying this recently. He says movie trailers are really harmful. You know, these days, movie trailers basically tell the whole story. I think it's really harmful. For me personally, I don't want to know anything when I go into the theatre. I like to discover it and get into the world and get a good picture as possible. no interruptions.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So he's basically saying that when trailers come out, they spoil the movie and that shouldn't be happening. Now, here's the thing. You're David Lynch. You're David Lynch, man. People are going to watch your stuff anyway. You created Twin Peaks.
Starting point is 00:13:39 People are going to watch your stuff. You can have your trailer as obscure as you want it to be because people are going to go and see David Lynch work. Other people, David Lynch, like me, need trailers to encourage people to go see our work. So please don't sit on your high horse talking about trailers being really harmful. I'm in agreement that I don't want anything spoiled. I don't want to go there and know the whole plot and know all the surprises and all the twists and turns.
Starting point is 00:14:07 But if I don't see a trailer that tells me something, how do I know I want to go and see the movie? So David Lynch needs to chill to fuck out and basically keep making his stuff that people want to see. He doesn't need trailers because he's already a ledge and he can do that. But you know what? Other people need trailers. and as long as they are not spoiling too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too much, I think we should have movie trailers. And of course, since the studios are the studios
Starting point is 00:14:30 and they're not going to listen to anyone anyway, trailers are going to keep happening. Very soon, we have Gareth O'Connor in the studio. He'll be coming in very soon, and he is a wonderful actor that is starring in Danny and the Deep Blue Sea. So we're going to be talking to Garif very shortly. Another thing that's happened in the world of film, this is a film show in case you didn't know,
Starting point is 00:14:54 and keep emailing me questions if you've got any more like Stacey did, is actress Chloe Grace Moretz. For those of you who don't know, she played hit girl in the film Kick Ass and Kick Ass 2. And is there a... I think they were going to do a hit girl movie at some point. I don't know if that's still happening. We'll have to ask Mark Miller.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Somebody tweet him and ask him. But anyway, she is starring in a new animated film called Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarfs. and recently they put the poster out and it featured a tall, slim red shoes who is I guess Snow White but they're calling their red shoes and then next to it had
Starting point is 00:15:34 a short, chubby red shoes and the poster tagline poster said what if Snow White was no longer beautiful and the seven dwarfs were not so short now there's been outrage about this outrage and the reason there's been outrage is because suddenly
Starting point is 00:15:50 they're saying that being short and chubby means you are less beautiful. And people have been chiming in. Chloe Grace Moretz got a lot of backlash on Twitter on this. The company have been really lambasted with tweets and ugly comments. And, you know, one user said, speaking of misogynistic and body shaming publicity in cans, so what, does being less thin and tall equal being less beautiful?
Starting point is 00:16:14 Tess Holliday, who's a plus size model, said, how did this get approved by an entire marketed team? Why is it okay to tell young kids that being fat equal ugly equals ugly? I got to say I'm with these guys. I'm with these guys and who doesn't like a bit of a junk in the trunk? You know what I'm saying? I like a big girl.
Starting point is 00:16:32 We all need love. I like a skinny girl. Hey, I just like girls. Let's not even go there. But I'm talking about this is not fair. You can't be telling young children that suddenly if they're chubby that they're not beautiful or they're less beautiful. That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And so anyway, the fans made enough noise and Chloe Murrette's made enough noise that this marketing campaign was pulled immediately. So your voices were heard. One of the film producers apologised on CNN and said this advertising campaign has been terminated immediately. And I think they're trying to say that there's a film about empowering women, but then the poster clearly looks like it saying,
Starting point is 00:17:10 if you are short and chubby, that you suddenly are less beautiful than being tall and thin. And that is just not right. and I'm glad the marketing campaign was pulled and they should be absolutely ashamed but if the film is about empowering women I hope that the film kind of recovers and finds a good audience and they should donate some of their earnings
Starting point is 00:17:30 to body shaming to any charities that deal with people that have self-harmed and all that due to body shaming and blah blah blah blah blah that's what they should do and you should tell them to do that I think that yeah
Starting point is 00:17:46 it needs to stop Need to stop. We've had another emailing. All right. Hey, Noel. You know you were saying about trailers. Yes, I know. I said it five minutes ago, but thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You, uh, how do you feel about spoilers on the internet? Sometimes I can't help myself looking for stuff online. If I'm excited about a new film coming out. I really like a show, by the way. You're a pretty honest about things from Steve. Thank you, Steve, my man. Thank you, Steve. Uh, I respect you for sending me an email.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Um, so I think spoilers on, okay, here's the thing. I don't like spoilers online either, but if I'm super excited about something and I decide to go and watch a spoiler, then that's cool. Because if you're so excited by a film that you're going to go and watch the film anyway, then it really doesn't matter if you watch a spoiler because you're seeking it out. But I think any time people put spoilers up, they need to tell people this contains spoilers as, you know, has become famous now, quotation mark, spoiler alert. You know, that's kind of a thing now, isn't it? So I really don't mind them, Steve, because I'm with you, man. If there's a film that I'm super excited about, I can't help myself. I like my go little sneaker spoiler and have a look because I think I'm a fan of that film and I want to see.
Starting point is 00:19:00 And also trailers don't bother me. But I think if people are just getting spoiled unfairly, then that's not right. But if you seek it out, then, hey, fair play to you. So thanks for Steve for sending that email. Right. So now, coming up right now. we have Gareth O'Connor is going to come in the studio in a minute
Starting point is 00:19:19 he's going to come in and talk about Danny and the Deep Blue Sea So he is just arrived I understand And the the producers and my underlings and my minions Are scurrying around to procure him And what are we doing? Are we playing a music? We're going to play a music This is why I call it now a music
Starting point is 00:19:36 We're going to play another bit of music This is a track Now bear in mind it's me today So this is all hip-hop-y stuff And all these tracks that I'm playing have been in film So the first one straight out of Compton, of course, was straight out of Compton. AJ Trady was in Brotherhood. And now we have, coming up right now, we have, what do we have?
Starting point is 00:19:52 What do we have? What do we have? We have Fight the Power, Public Enemy. And this was in the movie, Do the Right Thing by Spike Lee. So check it out, Fight the Power. Back Road, John James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Man, oh man, fight the power. Public Enemy from the classic, classic film from, uh, great.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah, no, I know, I know. telling me to, I know, do the, I was going to say from a great, I say he was greater, he was greater than he is right this minute, but I still love him, do the right thing, Spike Lee. Anyway, right now, we have Gareth O'Connor in the studio. Hello. Hello, sir. How are you? Woo!
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yay, clap, clap, clap, clap, great. How are you? I'm good, man, I'm good. I'm flying solo today. I don't usually push the buttons and stuff. It's kind of, you know, I have a co-host and she does all the stuff, and I'm kind of, she's like the straight man, and then I come in and chime in. now today, I'm flying solo.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Shall I be your straight, man? You can be. But you're kind of lucking out, because this is really the A team. Like, this is the A team right here. You know what I mean? As in M.E. Team me. Yeah, this is the A team. Right. Tell me, sir, you are in, starring in Danny and the Deep Blue Sea.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Yes. Which is a play. Tell me what this play is all about and tell our listeners what it is all about. Yeah, it's a play by John Patrick Shanley. And it's about two New Yorkers in the Bronx. that have a huge amount of difficulty communicating. They're just, you know, Danny Fights, Roberta, she sort of, she expressed herself in other ways,
Starting point is 00:21:35 and they just, they find it very difficult to express their emotions, which I'm sure people can relate to and this day and age. So they meet in this bar and they realize that there's something about each other that they sort of see in each other. Yeah. And it means that it sort of creates this big sort of tornado between these two people, these very strong personalities. And we just see their story over, you know, 80 minutes and see them.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And what's the period of time in 80 minutes for the play? But what's the period of time in the, is it live, is it live real time? Yeah, it was set in, it was originally written in the 80s. So it's sort of any time, but we are, we do feel like when we're putting touches to it, there is a bit of 80s to it. Sure, sure. But it is a sort of any time. These two people could be from...
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah, and set over how long a week? It's, oh, just over two-day periods. Right, right. So they meet in the bar and then, you know, I don't want to spoil too much. Yeah, of course. You know, they move around, and then it sort of all culminates on the second day. Yeah. When their heads are a little clearer.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Okay, cool. And for two people that seem socially awkward, I'm guessing, a bar is a very social place to be. Is there a... It's true. Well, in this case, Roberta goes there just to get out of her house, just to get out of her head. And Danny is just sort of looking for,
Starting point is 00:22:57 he almost is still looking for a fight. He's just been in a fight. So he comes in, he walks into this bar and he's this big presence. He's all cut up. His jacket's been torn. And he sits down. And so you're just looking at these two people sat.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And there's already a story sort of brewing in your own head. You're wondering who these two people are. and like it's a great image at the beginning of the play and then they just get right into it. Sounds amazing. How do you find playing Roberto with the beard and everything? Oh, I know. I just bring the,
Starting point is 00:23:27 I piss the voice up a little bit higher. Oh, man, I love it. So how is, sorry, man, you know, I'm just like, how is, how is it playing Danny? How do you, do you find, having done plays myself? I have an Olivier, by the way. I just thought I'd throw that in there.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Oh, that's beautiful. It's just right here in my bag. Yeah, let me see. Oh, it's gorgeous. Thanks, man. It's bigger than a normal, Olivia, actually. Well, you know, black don't, you know. Anyway, sir, how do you find, when you play in a character like Danny, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:55 because obviously I've been on stage and, you know, it can change every night, depending on the audience. But what's your process for young actors that are listening or people that are kind of like, cool, man, you know, I'd love to be in a play. Like, what's your process for channeling Danny before you go on stage or during the play? And how do you use the audience to change your performance nightly? Well, the first thing is that we, we've just got an amazing director.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Courtney Larkin is just incredible. She came in from the first day, and she just knows his play, you know, back to front. And she just looks at it with new eyes every time. And every time we run it, there's something else that she just sees in it. And it's always the right direction. It's always a more interesting route to go.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. So she's amazing. She's collaborative. Like, if you come up with ideas, she'll blow off. Definitely, yeah. She's, you know, she's really easy to work with. And she's just, you know, but she's the voice. She's, I trust her implicitly.
Starting point is 00:24:46 think she says. I just know she's, it's coming from a place of knowledge. She's just, she's not just going out on a whim, you know. And also I've got Megan Lloyd Jones to play across from and she's just phenomenal. Just insane energy and, you know, wonderful actress. But the preparation is just learn the lines, you know, learn the lines, come in, be open to figuring out who the character is and trying to, you know, give yourself an idea of why he says these things. Because the lines are there. The play doesn't change every night. It stays the same.
Starting point is 00:25:19 So you need to ask yourself, why is he saying this? Why is he saying in this way? Why did he just ignore what he said and move on to something else? And then you're talking about the intentions behind all your lines, and that's what Courtney's amazing at.
Starting point is 00:25:29 She's very good at saying, well, you know, why? And do you... Do you... Obviously, we're in the moment. You know, again, I haven't been on stage. I kind of dig it.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I know it, but do you sometimes react to the audience? Because, you know, those times I was doing a play once and I was like kind of a... bad guy and I did something and I was like in my head I was like yeah and then I kind of edged it up more than I had done the night before like do you kind of it it is a bit of a pit you can fall into it and I have especially the first couple of nights and that's why it's good to have a couple of previews before you do your open night and stuff because you know because it's very rare that you would have had an audience watch it so you come in you say something and this play it's really funny surprisingly enough as dark as it is it's got some really rough themes in it but it's very funny because John Patrick Shanley's, his dialogue is just amazing. So you come in for the first time, a few people laugh, and it's very difficult to not sort of, you know, oh, this is funny.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah, because you have to make sure you don't, the next night, different audience, you have to make sure you're not waiting for the loss. You can't expect it. You can't expect it. Yeah, that's right. People can see it on your face. Because audiences, I think people don't realize this, like the listeners. Audiences change nightly.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I mean, we know, people know the people change nightly, but the reactions change nightly, don't they? It's not the same, is it? It's crazy. it's like we've had shows where because this is the second iteration of this we did it back in April but we wanted to take it to a bigger stage
Starting point is 00:26:54 and the first time around there would be nights where you just didn't hear a pee nothing and you think and it was like you know busy crowd is like are we just not on tonight I don't understand and your ego can kick in you can say well maybe I need to push it a little harder but you have to say no step back and
Starting point is 00:27:11 then it always seems to turn out that people were just listening people were just really intently listening And it's weird though, isn't it? Because like you feel like it might be one person, but it's kind of a group dynamic. If there's a few people that are a certain way, it kind of washes over the whole audience. And that night, they might just be quiet.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And you go back, you're like, man, they were quiet today. All it takes is one person to laugh, and then the whole dynamic changes. Exactly, exactly. So tell me when and where is this play on? Because it sounds great, Danny and the Deep Lucy, where can people see this? It is on, we open on Tuesday, this Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It's June the 6th. June the 6th. And we run until the 24th of June at the old Red Line Theatre. Where is that? It's in Islington. Islington. The nearest tube is Angel. Great, great, great.
Starting point is 00:27:53 So you hear that, guys. From June 6th to June 24th, the old Red Lion Theatre in Islington. That's fantastic. And yourself, what's happening for you, man? This is really exciting doing this play. Well, this is taken over my life at the moment. So, yeah, it's amazing to think that this, you know, a handful of pages fell on my lap. How long ago?
Starting point is 00:28:13 15 months ago. Wow. And to think. that now I'd be sort of Yeah This is all I've been thinking about For the last six months So yeah
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah yeah Just trying to get it back on again But that's pretty That's been me for the last while I do a bit of voiceovers Yeah You have a very sultry voice sir Oh thank you very much
Starting point is 00:28:30 I love the accent as well Love the accent I've been practicing it for a very long time Yeah I can't How long sir Yeah of 29 years Oh great
Starting point is 00:28:38 Oh he's a young he's a young star 29 Oh to be 29 Beautiful young man Oh to be 29 again I turned 30 this month. Oh, dude. Come and see Danny in Deep Blue Sea.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Go and see Danny in the Deep Blue Sea. When do you turn 30? 29 to June. Well, the show will be technically over. But go and see it. Change your mind. Go and see it before that. You know, 30, these are you going to be your best years, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:00 I can't wait. I promise you, like it. I remember when I was turning 30, it's kind of like, oh, man. But I promise you, 30 to 40 will be your best years. It's where you, it's where you kind of find yourself. Do you know what I mean? I'm going to take your word for it. I'm telling you, man.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I'm there. I want my money. back if you can come to me up by that point I'll be 50 I'll be like dude I don't know what the fuck I said when I saw you no honestly man you'll love it it's you find yourself and you get better in every aspect and you're active whatever you do you kind of find yourself and you get better so do it but I hope this this Danny in the Deep Blue Sea starring Gareth O'Connor I hope this is the start of all of that stuff for you and I look forward to I might not see it I have three kids I get very busy that's okay I look
Starting point is 00:29:44 forward to our listeners definitely coming to see it if I can't go and see it and commenting on it and I wish you all the luck in a world buddy thank you very much yeah and we will speak to you anon sometime in the future see you again right thanks guys man that was gara for connor he's still sitting here right now we are going to probably play I'm going to play another song I'm going to play another song and this again because I'm on this movie thing I'm on this movie thing this week obviously it's a movie show this song um is from a film called men in black by a little known, from a film called Men in Black, and it's a song called Men in Black starring,
Starting point is 00:30:19 and this song's by a little known artist called William Smith. I hope you enjoy it, guys. Back on, show. Oh, my, jeez, men in black, William Smith. You guys might have heard of him. I love that tune. I love that tune. The film's actually good, too. Part 2 was terrible, but part 3 was also great with Josh Brolin. So check those out if you haven't seen him.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I'm just like, I love films, man. I just love films. we've got a couple more comments here Teresa on Twitter I remember when I was little She doesn't speak sound like this by the way This is my voice I remember when I was little growing up
Starting point is 00:31:05 To watch Wonder Woman and a Bionic Man They were my favourite TV shows Well thank you Teresa They were very good Actually Bionette Man was pretty good I'm surprised It's interesting The Bionette Man
Starting point is 00:31:15 They haven't made a film of I don't think that I can remember But I think it's because Actually he was called the $6 million Man But like me People buy boats for that price now So he's not even that special anymore is he
Starting point is 00:31:26 So they would have to be like the $6 billion man now probably. So anyway, anyway, we've also got another email from Jody in Wakefield. Thank you for listening, Jody. Hi, Noel, I've always wondered. She doesn't sound like this either. Again, my voice, guys, in case you're wondering. Hi, I always wondered why so many films get released in the summer when it's hot. I can't stand sitting in a sweaty cinema when it's nice outside.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Do you get any say when your films are released? Jody. Jody. Now, that is a very, very, very good question. Now, a lot of people will avoid releasing their films in summer for that very reason. What you guys don't always get is that film distributors hate the sun. Because if you put a film out and suddenly it's a sunny day, the hottest day of the year,
Starting point is 00:32:06 the numbers, box office takings of your film drop so drastically that people don't want to put films out. So here's my point. This is why only the blockbusters get released in summer really. Massive, massive blockbusters or counter-programming. Because those films are so big that. people are going to watch them. They know people are going to watch them.
Starting point is 00:32:29 But if you just have a regular film, it's unlikely that they'll put out in summer. Do I get a say, so that's that reason. Do I get a say when my film's released? Yes and no, not always. Generally, the distributor will decide when they're going to put the film out. But for example, Brotherhood originally,
Starting point is 00:32:48 which was last year 2016, was going to be released kind of in early August. early August and I really stamped my feet and was like you can't put it out early August it has to come out late August when people are coming back from holiday and to be fair to Lionsgate the distributor they did listen to me
Starting point is 00:33:06 now the reason they tried to release it at a certain time in the year is because you have 16 weeks before the DVD comes out you have a certain period of time before the DVD comes out and they knew they wanted the DVD out on Boxing Day so you count back 16 weeks and it was you know first week of September but to be clear they wanted to come early August
Starting point is 00:33:23 but I put my foot down and they were great and we released it 27th of August and it absolutely smashed it and they wouldn't have done it if they didn't think it was a good idea but at the same token I was right people were back from holidays kids were getting ready for school and they were annoyed about it so they wanted to see a film before they went back and it just smashed it and so I don't always get a say but on that film I did and it just worked that doesn't mean I'll always be right right guys we you know we talk about films here also talk about short films recently Johanna James who is
Starting point is 00:33:55 the lady that always does the show spoke to a fellow called Jed Shepard creator of a short film called Dawn of the Deaf which I'm assuming is about deaf people or has some sort of theme about deafness and if guys if you guys don't know Johanna James has hearing aids or has one hearing aid she is partially deaf
Starting point is 00:34:16 which makes her even more awesome and so that's premiering at Sundar Sundance Festival London Sundance Film Festival which kicked off yesterday and runs till the 4th of June. And earlier this week, Johanna spoke to the creator Jed Shepard, so let's listen to that. Back row and chill
Starting point is 00:34:32 with Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. Hello, Jed, are you there? I'm here. Hello, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for coming on. I apologize, it sounds really windy here. I've just stepped outside of Comic-Con.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Oh, amazing. Amazing. No, not a problem, not a problem at all. Well, we just want to have a little quick chat, obviously about the movie that's in the Sundance Festival, Dawn of the Deaf, because I've read the synopsis and it sounds awesome. Do you want to just give the people at home a little bit about what the film's about and... Yeah, sure. Yeah. So Dawn of the Death, the basic elements of it is it's about a sound that kills everybody on Earth. And the only people that survive are deaf people. Of course. And so they have to kind of band together to survive in this post-apocalyptic world. The only problem
Starting point is 00:35:24 is that the hearing people are coming back as zombies. So it's essentially, yeah, the deaf people v. Zombies. Wow. Well, this film is actually specifically right up my street because I am registered hard of hearing and I wear
Starting point is 00:35:40 AIDS. So I was like, mate, there's a film where like deaf people are like the leads. This is fantastic. Exactly. This is what we want. There hasn't really been a movie where deaf people are the main protagonists. No. I've seen as the heroes. And also seen as being deaf as almost, it's a positive, like a positive.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah, for sure. And we were obviously worried that it was going to be taken the wrong way and it might be seen as people that are not deaf, almost using that to their advantage to make a film about it. But we've been embraced by the deaf community so much. We've won awards at the Death Fest a couple of weeks ago. So we really made sure that we were doing it in the right way by using death actors and having a BSL advice of the entire time
Starting point is 00:36:26 kind of helped us with some of the sign language things. And yeah, it's never really been done before, so... This is so amazing. And it is playing, it's at the Sundance Film Festival in London. That's happening, I think, Thursday the 1st of Sunday, the 4th of June. Yeah, it's like next week or something, yeah. Yeah, I know. It's coming up at the venue's Picture House, Central London.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So tickets are now on sale, I believe, and you can get a ticket. And is this film, is it a short or is it a feature? Yeah, it's a short. So it's like about 13, 14 minutes long. Amazing. And we are making the feature, though. We are in talks with different companies about making the feature. So that's going to happen early next year.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. And we've done over 100. Since we've kind of done our first film festival, about June last year, we've done over 100. And we've done London Film Festival, both in Spain, which is about to the Sydney Film Festival, Glasgow. And obviously, Sundance, the main film festival. in America was the main one. It's doing super, super, super well then, amazing. Yeah, it's been a real whirlwind and...
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. For a small kind of genre film, I can't believe how much attention has got. Yeah, well, it's such a cool concept. And sort of Dawn of the Deaf, obviously playing on the Dawn of the Dead, like, very clever. I'm loving it. And yeah, I'm so pleased that more, that the deaf community are getting into the film world because we're not represented, you know? You're not.
Starting point is 00:37:47 And what we're trying to do is, with the feature, we'll make sure that every... actor that plays a deaf character is death and not just a hearing actor pretending to be deaf. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Because it's all very well getting kind of deafness out into the kind of genre films, but we want to make sure deaf actors are represented as well. So we made the decisions to have all of the main leads you played by actual death actors. That's amazing. That's so cool. Yeah. Yeah, that must be like, that's a very unique casting, I think, for sure. Yeah, it is. We've got a lot of help from the deaf community, so it's been great.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Well, all the best of luck for the feature film, and of course, you're smashing all the festivals with the short. So thank you so much for your time. I'll let you get back to it now. But thank you so much for talking to us, Jed. Thank you. Have a lovely day. I'm just saying Noel Clark rocks. Like, his films are amazing. Amazing. Please pass that on.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I will, for sure. All right. Thank you, mate. Have a lovely night. Thank you. Bye. Cheers. Bye.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Radio. Sucker for pain. In case you don't know, that is Little Wayne and WizKalifa, Imagine Dragons, and that is from the film Suicide Squad. So there you go, man. I'm on this film thing today. So, a little bit more in the old entertainment news here. So House of Cards, you guys know the show, House of Cards. House of Cards are sort of. of, well, they're never going to be struggling because it's House of Carden, it's a great show, but critics recently at the beginning of season five, the premier of season five, have really come down on the show a little bit, saying that it's not as exciting and it's not really, you know, it's not really popping. All of a sudden, the presidential drama finds itself
Starting point is 00:39:40 tragically behind the curve, said the Guardian. What a pity. The show would have been subversive if Hillary Clinton won. So what's really happening here is, The show is still great, but the reason it's not as exciting as before is because what's happening in real life with crazy Donald Trump is so exciting and so riveting for people that they're kind of saying that House of Card is not really as exciting as it used to be. I mean, obviously, it can't be all Donald Trump's Donald Trump thought it can't be real life. You know, the writers probably have to take the blame. But, you know, what's happening with the real life stuff is so scary, so dramatic, so, so. full on that suddenly TV shows that were doing all this sort of crazy stuff
Starting point is 00:40:24 before suddenly don't seem as exciting anymore. So I mean that's a... Number one, I hope House of Cards gets better. But number two, that is a worry. Let's hope that we all are here next week and that old Trumpus doesn't take us all up. Now, also, another big thing that's happening is the classic film...
Starting point is 00:40:47 You guys will have to ask your parents about this. You guys will have to ask your parents about this. the classic film Murder on the Orient Express has been remade and the trailer is released Now this film is directed by Kenneth Branner and it has got a bunch of
Starting point is 00:41:04 really big cast in it including Judy Dench Penelope Cruz Johnny Depp William Defoe what's her name that I was talking about Olivia Coleman
Starting point is 00:41:17 Michelle Pfeiffer I mean this is this is a star studied film and Derek Jacoby and directed by by Kenneth Brunner. Now for those of you who don't know, Murder in O'Express is an Agatha Christie classic. And it's probably been made like about a zillion times over the years. And Hercule Proro has to kind of solve the crime of who was murdered on Oren Express. It's not a massive plot twist in there, you know, in terms of what the story's about. It's called Murder on the Orrin Express.
Starting point is 00:41:44 It's about someone getting killed on a train. But for some reason, I feel like this Kenneth Branagh version, is going to be exceptional, not just because it's Kenneth Branagh, but because the cast itself tells me it's going to be good. So I'm looking forward to that. Go check out the trailer. The trailer is out now. Unfortunately, you know, I might do a Steve and look at a spoiler,
Starting point is 00:42:05 but unfortunately, the film is not out until November 24th. But check out that trailer. Murder on the Royal Express. Oh, we've had Lisa on Twitter. Lisa on Twitter. So looking forward to watching this, Wonder Woman. Well, Lisa, I hope we've entered the competition. and that you are going to win the gauntlets, fancy names for brazilts, and the tiara and the key ring and take a selfie of you wearing those.
Starting point is 00:42:30 That would be awesome, Lisa. So why don't you do that? Okay, another email. Hi Noel. What movies are you excited about this year? I've seen Emma Watson is doing a new one called The Circle. I love her from Hannah in Edinburgh. Hmm, what movies am I excited about this year?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Oh, oh, I'm excited definitely about Spider-Man. Spider-Man Homecoming. That, for me, is a film that I just cannot wait to see. I love Spider-Man movies, and even except Spider-Man 3 with Toby McGuire, I didn't like that. I thought that was a letdown. but even the ones that are not popping off like the Andrew Garfield ones and you know I love Andrew Garfield
Starting point is 00:43:23 I think he's an absolutely brilliant actor I absolutely love the dude I think he's awesome but those films weren't really popping off but the new one coming with Tom Holland I'm really really really looking forward to that Spider-Man is my G that's my man so I'm looking forward to that Spider-Man movie another film I'm looking forward to which is coming out soon
Starting point is 00:43:46 And I think this, for me, not that he will ever not do another film as great, but this for me could be the defining film with this director, is Edgar Wright's movie Baby Driver. Now, if you guys have not seen anything for Baby Driver, as in trailer or who's in it or whatever, you need to go and check that out. Because that film looks like it's going to be one of the best films this year. I have little doubt that that film is going to be one of the best films this year.
Starting point is 00:44:15 to definitely look out for baby driver by Edgar Wright. It stars Kevin Spacey. It stars John Hamm, Jamie Fox, and a friend of mine, Lily James, who was in Fast Girls, of course, and gave me big hugs when I saw her in Toronto in September. She's an awesome actress, doing really well. I'm very happy for her.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And she also is in this film, and that is the baby driver. I think that's going to be the new drive. Do you remember how good drive was for those of you that like drive and for those that didn't well you're wrong but baby driver also I am looking forward to Wonder Woman
Starting point is 00:44:51 I can't lie I'm looking forward to Wonder Woman also another email I know I love British comedy but I just don't get the American comedies I kind of want to get into them which ones would you recommend I watch do you have any favourites Ben now Ben that is a tricky one because I'm kind of with you
Starting point is 00:45:11 to be honest I'm kind of with you so I can't say that I'm loving the pants of all of those American ones either but if I had to say any mate I'd go back to a few classics I'd go back to a few well they're classics now because but I was probably around the age when they hit like like American Pie and American Pie 2 and a road trip those ones back then really classics some of the later ones I just I'm with you man I kind of don't get into I just don't find them that funny
Starting point is 00:45:42 where they're just dumb stoners doing dumb things I'm like I don't really kind of find it funny I think British comedies are a lot sharper and a lot smarter and generally funnier but I go back to a few classics man check out some American pie shit and those ones there right soon in the studio soon we're gonna have we're gonna have my man that I've worked with before
Starting point is 00:46:04 and is now smashing it in America Mr Dwayne Henry that is what we're having soon Dwayne is here. He's in the building. They're writing on the computer right in front of me. Dwayne is here. And for those you don't know, he's a ledge, he's a ledge, he's gone to America and he's absolutely smashing it. I'm wondering also if Sheneika Warren Marklin is going to turn up at any point because she was supposed to be here at 3 o'clock and she is not there writing on the screen. She is not here. Exclamation mark, full stop.
Starting point is 00:46:39 So anyway, right now, guys. I'm going to play you another song because I'm on this film thing today. And this one is called Unchained. And it's by James Brown and Tupac, rest both their souls. And it's from the classic movie. And I think it is a classic by Quentin Tarantino, starring Jamie Fox, Django Unchained. Hubar Radio presents. Harriet Rose with Nosser.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Mabel, how's it going? I feel like there is a certain responsibility. Like, as much as I just want to have fun and make songs that me and my friends come dance to, I feel like I do have a responsibility. Tell young women. to not get lost in relationships and to always put yourself first. I love, love.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I love falling in love. But that is really important to make sure that you're in the driving seat and that somebody's not just using you. The women that I grew up listening to taught me so much, Lauren Hill and Beyonce about being an independent woman and being strong and taking care of me.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And I think that it's an important message to send. Every Thursday, Harriet Rose is Nozah. From 4pm, Fubbar Radio. 4, 3, 2. I'm doing the countdown. Oh my gosh, right now, I can't even tell you. Right now, I'm proud, I'm humbled, I'm excited
Starting point is 00:47:56 because right now, in the studio sitting right opposite me is my man, Duane Henry. What's happening? What's happening? Woo! Yes. And Dwayne, for those who don't know, we know each other a long time,
Starting point is 00:48:10 probably go back to 2007, where we did West 10 LDN pilot that I wrote, and Dwayne was a star and absolutely amazing lead he was with another lady doing well Ashley Midecoy right and Dwayne was a star and since then
Starting point is 00:48:26 since then Dwayne has been doing this thing he went off to America he started various things over here like let's get that clear for a start starting various things over here then he was like I'm going to go to America he's been doing this thing on the quiet
Starting point is 00:48:38 and now he is the star one of the stars but I'm always going to say the star of N C-I-S which one is it the new one No, it's the main one. The main one. N-C-I-S.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I mean, to everyone, it's different, but it's the daddy. He's the daddy. He's in the daddy show. So, my man, how you doing, man? Bro, I'm good, man. It's good to see you because, yeah, we go back, man. We didn't have no scenes together, but before West 10, bro, we did do play drama together. That's right.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Dub play drama. Man, I'm even forgetting that, Luke times. I still speak to Luke, man. Yeah, good guy, man. So, yeah, it's been a long road, bro. So, obviously, people like yourself and, you know, people like Amalameen and you know and our man
Starting point is 00:49:19 Ashley Thomas and Arnold O'Shen you know it's weird to see us in this position because you know we've been a lot of miles
Starting point is 00:49:26 bro there's a lot of miles man there's a lot of miles and I think people don't realize that yeah you know that's my boy
Starting point is 00:49:31 Arnold and Ash my boys back in the day man yeah and it's beautiful to see everyone the seeds everyone planted 10 10 or years ago
Starting point is 00:49:38 starting to grow now yeah and there's space yeah you know there used to be I think an old guard like the generation above us
Starting point is 00:49:45 or maybe a bit guarded in terms of like no I've got it no space but there's space yeah there's especially now yeah there's more room now than ever been especially in the states as well so you know they're feeling us right now so tell me man so tell me about told me about the journey tell me about because it say it said like much like myself you aspire to be an actor from around the age of five young man it you know playing cops and robbers and cowboys and indians and i just never never fell out of love with it you know it was something that i felt came
Starting point is 00:50:12 effortless to me you know that sort of compassion and empathy you have as an actor and i just sort of ran with it and I figured to myself when I was young young if I do this and it comes effortless to me I may never have to work a day in my life I figured that out early on and I think that's what the problem is a lot of young people they don't really know what they want to do so it's difficult to make a choice and walk down a certain path if you have no idea of what comes to you
Starting point is 00:50:37 and I always tell young kids do what comes natural to you then you'll never have to work again also you said something there but actually is interesting when you say you never have to work a day in your life what you mean is actually what I think you mean is actually, because acting is incredibly hard work. But what you mean is because you enjoy it, it's not work.
Starting point is 00:50:53 You're actually living your dream. You're living your dream. You're doing what you wanted to do. But when you've wanted to do something so much and you love it, it's not like you become a pop star, you sell some records, then you're vexed that you have to go on tour. It's not really about that. It's like, well, why are you vex? This is what you wanted.
Starting point is 00:51:05 It's like when you love something and you want to do it, it's not work. Yeah, it's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. Yeah, I enjoy it, man. It's a pleasure. You go and set and you're happy. You're going to have difficult days. That's life, man.
Starting point is 00:51:14 You're going to get a lot of nose, but without those nose, you won't know what yes means and how yes feels and how to hold it tight and hold on to it, you know. I love that. If I had a shotgun, I shoot it in the air in celebration. You know, because I know what you're saying, man. It's like people don't see that. There's a lot of nose.
Starting point is 00:51:30 There's a lot of nose. There's a lot of heart take. And let's talk about some of that. So you came to, you mean, you've always made brave moves. And I've always going to give you that. You know, you've always made very brave moves. At 17. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Because you were born where? Birmingham, Westman. Midlands, West Midlands, right? Want to be an act at the age of five. At 17,
Starting point is 00:51:48 you came down to London to the big smoke to pursue your dream. I did, man. Yeah, and that's a brave move in itself. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And how did you find that? Because it says, I'm understanding that when you came down here, it wasn't all easy like you went straight into acting, you were homeless for a bit, right? Yeah, I came here with a suitcase
Starting point is 00:52:03 in a dream like what most young people do, you know, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed and drunk on audacity, you know, that was mainly my thing. I didn't, 17,
Starting point is 00:52:11 I didn't care. I just wanted to be out of my familiar zones where I was for many years and just wanted to be in a big city and I just loved to act and I didn't know where it could take me but I knew the possibilities were endless you know so the day I got here
Starting point is 00:52:24 you know I said I'll give myself 10 years to the day I've always said that and you know that was November 27th 2003 and it was a Thursday so November 27th 2013 I booked my flight to LA and I was in LA by December 3rd yeah so I mean by during those years here so obviously you started you started
Starting point is 00:52:41 At first you were homeless And you started struggling But then what little things started coming Yeah First year just on my aunties couch You know for a little bit And then after that There's little little section
Starting point is 00:52:50 She gave me the corner of her living room Started to get bigger and bigger She was like you have to come old man You have to come out of my yard Yeah you just got a little bit much After a year I got a little bed sit And that's when it really started You know I got agent
Starting point is 00:53:01 And then just started to do the grind Like what most people do Just little guest parts here But yeah most majority is you know It's just homeless And then double it And then double it And you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:12 Dubplate was such a blessing for me, man. It was such an experience. Starry and Shaiste. Chanel. Chanel Caraca, crazy girl, man. A lot of legends in that. A lot of people, like obviously, end-dubs before they blew up, started off in that.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And obviously, you know, a lot, a lot of stars. Adam Deacons were still coming up. And it's just one of those shows where you look back and it was like, it's a part of culture, man. It's a pop culture. No matter how you look at it, you know. we had a time. It was a moment and everyone loved it at that time,
Starting point is 00:53:43 especially the actions of, you know, you decide in the ending of the show and stuff. It was something that was never been done before. And it was interesting because I knew Luke and I, we would sit down and I mean, I'm not going to take credit for his thing. But me and Luke would sit down and chat a lot about like, oh, he's like, what do you think about this person? I'm like, yeah, bro, you should cast that person.
Starting point is 00:53:59 They're coming up and blah, blah, blah. And he always said to me, you need to be in the show. And I was always like, bro, I can't be in the show. I'm an old up, blah, blah. And he convinced me to come do that one cameio. I loved it. I love the you and you and TJ I remember the scene like it was yesterday
Starting point is 00:54:10 and the door and the hostel and he convinced me to do that one cameo but I was always like yeah man these guys are good that girl's good and then of course West 10 LDN listen bro
Starting point is 00:54:20 and that was interesting because that show was ahead of its time yeah I feel like the reason that show never went to series or from the pilot is because actually it was almost it was almost in a weird way
Starting point is 00:54:31 top boy before top boy yeah kind of yeah they weren't ready for it and not disrespecting that show because I love that show. I love Ashley and I love those guys, Kano and all that. But West 10 was that was that was our community. Yeah, it was. It was something that and, you know, honestly, you know, not to take it here, but being an outsider in that show, being from Birmingham and everyone, you know, the show and called West 10 with a lot of Londoners and to be like a principal. The lead. Well, the lead in the league. I'm trying to be pregnant that way. He was the lead. If the series got made, he was the lead. Yeah. That, you know, that was something that was just incredible, man. You know, and obviously you're all,
Starting point is 00:55:07 brainchild and menhardsorder and the writer, the book, Courtney and New York. Yeah. When I read that book, I knew it, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I was like, I'm Oren. I was like, I'm Oren. I don't care. From the first page that opened, I said, before I even got the part, I was like, this is me. I swear to you, I was like, I'm getting this part.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And you did, and you were great. And actually, Medecue, she's gone on to great things. But I think you're right, I think that show, they weren't ready for it at the time, because you're thinking that's 2007, they just were not ready for that show.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Powerful, powerful, powerful, very smart, You know, not to say I'm writing it because it's from the book. But it's powerful, very smart show that I think just showed our people in a positive light as well as the realness of it. And they couldn't get it. They didn't know what to do with it. They didn't know what to do with it. They're like, hold on, there's black people smiling.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah, yeah. And hold on, the father's still there. Yeah. Why is the father still there? Right. This is confusing me. You know what I mean? And they just didn't know what to do with it.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah. And it was, yeah, I mean, that's unfortunate. But anyway, so fast forward, 2013, you go to L.A. I just. Another brave move. I had to. bro, because it was drying up here and I figured to myself, look, mate, you're 28, 29, I don't know what's going to happen here, but let me go to the States for a minute, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:15 you know, what you have to offer is kind of celebrated out there a little bit. So just see what you can do. Worst cases you come back. So against everyone's will, including my own, owed agents, you know, they were like, don't go yet and all this. I was just like, I'm out of here. So yeah. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah. My plan was to go there and take a year out. So I took a year out when I got there just to learn the logistics, learn to drive any other side of the road. tone up a little bit and work on the accent. What did you call it? The yardy fat, man. All that, all that. All that had to get.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Man, I'm getting a bit older. Of my old age. I'm getting a little bit of titty on my left peck. It's my age, bro. It's not even a love handle. It's my age. It's not even a love handle. My sides are good.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It's just on my firm pecks. Just on the age now. Getting a bit soft on the end. Two push-ups before bed. No, it's not. I've done the push up. The peck's there. It's a little bit of boobage on top.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It's a little fat on top. You know what's holding my baby. you tried to suck it up there I was like no I was like okay I need to yeah this needs to get I think I need to get
Starting point is 00:57:09 some Kardashian LIPO or something up in here You know what I mean Anyway so yeah You're in LA Yeah took a year out And then after about a year Well when I first got there
Starting point is 00:57:18 I sat down with my manager Now and he said Are you ready to come out And do this? Yeah yeah He must be dancing the jig Yeah He asked me when I first got
Starting point is 00:57:26 He said are you ready And I went no Yeah he went Seriously I was like No I need a year So literally took year out I didn't hardly recognise me
Starting point is 00:57:32 I didn't hardly recognise me And I said I'm ready first audition was a show called Shades of Blue, Jennifer Lopez. That was my first audition in the States. And long story short, I read for it, and it ended up between me and another guy. That was my first gig. And being at the top of the NBC Tower with Barry Levinson, the director, Rain Man, you know, Benny Medina, Jayne. Jane was manager.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And J-Lo, you know, she's like, this is your first audition in America? And I'm like, yeah, my first audition. And they were like, wow. Did you ask her out for a drink or something? I was shook, man. Yeah. I would have been like, yeah, it's my first, man. You want to be my second or something, man?
Starting point is 00:58:03 In her dreams. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. She looked good, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I didn't get the part, obviously. I wasn't, you know, I had lack of experience. But I just kept my head down for six to eight months,
Starting point is 00:58:15 and we knew I could work, but it was just about fighting on the right gig. Yeah, man. So I booked a pilot after that called Paradise Pictures. That was set in the 40s, you know, beat out of a lot of Americans for it. So that made me feel good. I love that. I love that. Didn't get picked up.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Cruel Intentions did a TV show. Off Twitch is based on the film, right? Exactly. Yeah, I got up, um, um, I got a part in that and they dropped my character from regular to reoccurring and when we got the word
Starting point is 00:58:37 it was reoccurring that's when I went up for NCIS and it was at the end of pilot season all the man them are booked Ashley Thomas all these guys had booked 24 I still didn't have nothing
Starting point is 00:58:45 you know homeless all this I remember sitting with Ashley Bashy sorry and then said telling him I think I think we can call him Ashley now he's a big boy actor
Starting point is 00:58:55 he's a big boy actor he's a big boy actor on 24 I think we can call him Ashley Thomas I love that kid I remember I remember sitting with him just before we both had booked anything
Starting point is 00:59:03 and I was just down and out. He had to borrow me some chains for food. And I remember saying to him like, right, is this going to happen, bro? Like, man, he's nearly 30 and that. Like, what's that? And he was like, fam, trust me, just have faith, bro. Just have faith, do your work. And literally, a few months later, he got 24 and I got NCIS.
Starting point is 00:59:16 So when we see each other now, like, we hang out and stuff, it's just that look. We give each other like, man. Of course, man, it's amazing. Yes, it's amazing. It's crazy, man. And so, so tell me, NCIS, obviously you're here doing the UK promotion. When can we see it?
Starting point is 00:59:28 It's on Fridays, right? Yeah, Friday's on Fox 9pm. Friday's on Fox UK at 9pm. It's just started, I believe. So that means it's on tonight. Yeah, it's on tonight. So guys, you can know what you've got to be doing tonight. You've got to be watching our man here, Dwayne Inri,
Starting point is 00:59:40 on N-C-IS, the daddy of the shows. Yeah, on Fox UK at 9 o'clock tonight. And Channel 5, I believe they've started playing the end of season 13. So they just showed my first episode on Channel 5. That's for my brethren's and families and friends who haven't got Fox. Who haven't got the Sky and got the Fox. My people only started watching it last week because they haven't got Fox. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So that'll be Channel 5. Do you know what days is on Channel 5? Oh man, I think it was Sunday It started last Sunday Listen, you guys have got TVs You got the remote, you can search it NCI, yes It's on Fox at 9 o'clock
Starting point is 01:00:10 On Fridays But also look for the Channel 5 showings Because you're going to see our guy Dwayne Henry here So man, that's amazing And what, obviously This is going to have you booked for a while I hope so man
Starting point is 01:00:20 I'm just, I'm just, I still sponge normal man I got a lot to learn You know, still got a lot to learn So just head down and just do the work And as I said most actors Most of people in the industry We just want to be useful And feel like we will work
Starting point is 01:00:31 because ultimately we just want to work yeah an actor without work is like a broom without bristles you know what I'm saying it's kind of useless really right good point sweeping up and you're just scraping up the floor is like no point that's it that's it so we want to be basking in bristles my friend basking in bristles man I love it listen listen my friend listen after all these years crazy I know you be doing you it's been a pleasure to see you I got to tell you I'm massively proud of you thank you man seeing you grow up thank you and watching what you've been doing on the UK and then over there watching from afar because I'm not even
Starting point is 01:01:01 seeing you really. I think we bumped into you about six years ago before you went. I've not really seen you. I'm proud of you man. Thank you. Can I just say something about you as well? You are obviously... I'm sexy. I mean, you're looking at my boobs. I've heard that. I've heard that. I don't know. You're a pillar, man. You're a pillar. You're a pillar in this community.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And without people like you, there won't be no people like me and the next generation under us, you know? So for you to break down the doors and tear off the roof, thank you on behalf of everyone because you've had to go through a lot as well. I've seen you from when I was a kid, you know? And you've known. And you still look 12 years old now. So well done, man. Thank you very much, man.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Lots of love. N-C-I-S. Tonight and every Friday's Fox at 9. Search out the Channel 5 show. My man, Dwayne Henry, legend. I love him to bits. Now we are going to play How to Survive in South Central by Ice Cube from the classic film.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And you know what, brother? It relates to us, man, because this is what we are. Boys in the hood. Yes, man. Back row and true. Thank you. Love. Hello.
Starting point is 01:01:57 My name is Elaine. And I'll be your tour guide. South Central Las Angeles. Food Bar Radio presents. The Hannah Witten show. I have with me, Alani. Do you think you never get into that? Like a sex swing?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Absolutely. Really? I need to get myself a sex cushion. You could just a pillow, though. Actually, no, I have done that before. Make do and mend, guys. You don't have to buy expensive sex and furniture. That is like the dream for me, though.
Starting point is 01:02:22 And so I can imagine, like, when I actually ever do that, is going around IKEA and just figuring out if the height of it is... Yeah, if it's going to work. It's going to work. It needs not just a plain headboard. Yeah, the ones with like the gaps in the middle or something. The hand comes. This is only the things that we would like.
Starting point is 01:02:37 These are priorities. Every Wednesday. The Hannah Witten Show. From 6pm, Fubar Radio. Oh man, man, oh man. It was so good to see Dwayne Henry. My man, Dwayne Henry, so good to see him. And that song, of course, was How to Survive in South Central by Ice Cube from the classic film, Boys and Hood.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Now, Shanika Warren Marklin is in the building. Late. I'm here. Better late than never. How dare you, man. How dare you? How dare you? But she's here. I'm here. It's good to see you, man.
Starting point is 01:03:07 How are you doing? I'm good. Nice to see you too. What time do you call this, though? Very late. I know. It's very late. But I was trying my absolute best to get here. And there was just crazy, crazy traffic. And I just hope no one was like that.
Starting point is 01:03:17 By the way, guys, she's not a guessing. This is a co-host who was supposed to be here at 4 p.m. It's now 529. Like this half an hour left. Like what? I know. I'm basically just making a guest appearance. Isn't a guest host.
Starting point is 01:03:29 You better drive me somewhere after this show, like for penance for your lateness. Okay. But in the meantime, in a moment we're going to have Lucy coming in talking about films, talking about what she's seen this week, the latest releases. And we can also get on to some of the stuff I talked about earlier, which I think you might be interested in about Jessica Chastain and Chloe Grace Moritz. You can have a read of those when you play the next tune. Now, we got an email in here from Sophie in Cardiff, from Sophie in Cardiff.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Sophie says, I've heard you speak quite a lot about writing screenplays on this show. well, it's a film show, so that's what I do. Like the last time you were talking about MMA, female MMA movies. Do you prefer writing alone or with a team? Firstly, female MMA movies, love it, got a script, which is now probably fucked because Blake lively is going to do one.
Starting point is 01:04:14 So either mine's going to be absolutely fucked in the water, or people are going to want more, and by the way, people, I've got a good one. Do you prefer writing alone or with a team? It's interesting, Sophie, good question. I like writing alone and I like writing with a team, but then
Starting point is 01:04:29 sometimes when you're writing with a team it's not necessarily always your vision in short I like writing alone that's the answer I just wish there was two of me so I could do more writing and still get done everything else I need to get done because I have a lot of things to get done and you started off writing alone I'm guessing
Starting point is 01:04:45 I started off writing alone yeah you know I started off writing alone and then realized there was loads of work and team that have other people I mean you write now do you write alone yeah yeah do you prefer it yeah it's better isn't it it's just because you have your idea oh this is a good idea
Starting point is 01:04:59 well it's this this and this and you're like side eye yeah I guess if you've got someone who've got a great relationship
Starting point is 01:05:05 and you're a bit of a double then the writing would be smooth because you've got a short hand they're terrible well yeah you probably aren't a little double-ac then
Starting point is 01:05:11 and you're just like yeah that was great can you go get me a drink from the shop down the road and then lock the door behind them and stuff like that yeah anyway
Starting point is 01:05:19 thank you Sophie so in a moment hold on hold on why are you late again because I was stuck in traffic I was coming from out of London I wasn't like just in my house chilling
Starting point is 01:05:28 I swear down. You could have phoned in though. What? You could have phoned in and be like on the phone? Speaker. I would have. I would have. If someone had to give me the option,
Starting point is 01:05:36 I would totally have done that. Side eye, side eye, side of. I would have. Babe, can you go get me a drink from the oil? It's trying to lock me out of the door. Oh man. So what's been happening? What's been happening?
Starting point is 01:05:45 Tell me what's been happening? Well, most recently I've been topping up my tan. Tolling up my tan. See you're looking at it as well. I see you were away. I was in Trinney. I was working though. I know.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I saw you say, oh, I'm actually working. I was like, is he though? Yes, I was. That is the kind of work. I actually was working. I wasn't. You weren't? I was son it myself.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I don't even look at your pictures with the bikini and all that. I didn't look at any of those pictures. Because we're like, you know, brother and sisters. It's not really appropriate, is it? Incest. I mean, yeah. Hashtag intertess is a ting. Was that your favorite scene you've ever shot that sex scene?
Starting point is 01:06:19 Oh my gosh. Oh, my. Can you believe he's asking this, guys? Of course you can. You bought it up. It's like your favorite scene you've ever shot ever in your life? No. Why are you lying, though?
Starting point is 01:06:28 It was not my favorite scene I've ever shown in my life. However, you did handle it very well. It was all very tasteful. Everything was called on set. Very professional. Of course, man. That's how we roll. You are kind of like my sister hashtag incest, as I think.
Starting point is 01:06:38 But, yeah, it's so weird because it was that a new email you just deleted it. It's so weird because people always, all right, we're talking about that. People always ask us about that scene and be like, yo, did you, you know, did it? It's like, no. It's not sexy. It's not sexy. Like, and Chinika's not sexy. So, like, my teens are just dead.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Like, when I'm near, I'm just dead. It's like dead. No lights to pretend. But that's okay. We could do this. We could do this all day and all night. When I'm near Shinnika, when I'm near Shinnika,
Starting point is 01:07:03 any sexual feeling like my soul. But that's because we're like brother and sister, not because I'm a dancing. My willy hangs like a pendulum. It's just dead near her. So like when we do those sex scenes in the films, there's like literally nothing. Ain't that right though?
Starting point is 01:07:15 We're just such good actors that we made it look like there was mad chemistry. I won't lie though. It does look good. It does. It does look good. I got a little twins when I was watching.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I was like, rah. How did it look so good? Sorry, Nell's wife, he didn't really get a little twins When I was watching it, not when I was doing it I know, when I'm doing it When I'm doing it was like pendulum dick Just dead, dead, dead because you're just dead You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:35 Hashtag not a dead scene No, we're like brothers No, it's not a dead scene though Not a dead scene, very good scene And we're like brother and sister I love it to bits I never think of you that way hashtag It's the incest of the V
Starting point is 01:07:43 Right, so right now We are going to play another track Again from another film that I'm thinking You guys need to see called above the ring You notice I'm talking about I'm playing black films today, man. You might, you guys, this might be surprising, but I am actually black, for those of you that don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:00 So there is a theme today. So this film is called Above the Ring. Above the Rim was a basketball film which starred Tupac Shakur, and this film is Pain by Tupac featuring Stretch. I couldn't help with your pain. My pain. It runs deep. Share it with me.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Yo, I'm just on fire today, man. You guys make sure you told you. Joanna James when she gets back about the tunes that I was playing. I know, I know she's not playing good music when I'm not here. She doesn't play good music when I'm here. So I know she doesn't make good music when I'm not here. Right. In the studio, we got Lucy.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Hello! Doing the films. Still haven't got a jingle, by the way. You still haven't got, listen. It's been nearly a year. Do you know what? I've not played any jingles because I don't know these buttons.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I don't know the buttons. All right then. Okay. Well, we'll play. Abby. I doubt you know Abby knows what my main things are. There we go. Yay!
Starting point is 01:08:57 There we go. That's me right that one. I know it's my arrival. Where's my stormsy one? Where is it? Where's my jingle there? What's your stormsy one? Let me show you.
Starting point is 01:09:06 I think it's 13 or 14 is it? Put in pressure on out. What have you done today? Push it. I've been stuck with that way. So when we hear something though, we don't want to hear. Press that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I room by shock. What are you saying? What are you saying? I'm not going to speak now Yeah I love it I love it Anyway Yeah remember that one
Starting point is 01:09:37 He's going to be reaching over to the present I'm going to use my toes reach up with my toes Just like bam bam bam By I'm sorry Lucy baby A resident film Yeah Tell me man what's been happening this week
Starting point is 01:09:49 What I've been doing this week? Watching a lot this week I went seeking after again And I will continue to tell everybody to go and see that film because I absolutely love it. I'm going to see it again on Sunday, whatever. No, no, no. You're so out of Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Is that tumbleweed? That's so rude. Anyway, enough of that. I also, stop him. Where's Johanna coming back? She's so much as that. I also went to see Baywatch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:20 What did you mean? Do you know what? It's been really sort of slagged off by everybody. But do you know what I say to that? stop being so fucking miserable. It's a funny, you know, it's a funny, entertaining,
Starting point is 01:10:33 stupid, colorful, bit of fun, you know. There's nothing really that offensive in it. Is it funny though? To me it is,
Starting point is 01:10:41 she said she didn't find it funny. See, I did. It was, it definitely was juvenile humor. You know, it's not a masterpiece. It's not going to win
Starting point is 01:10:50 any awards or anything. But I think the, the tone of the film set almost immediately that you're not supposed to take it seriously. And I mean, why would you? Why would you take an adaptation of that show?
Starting point is 01:11:03 Seriously. Are you going to go see Baywatch? Probably not. Do you know what? I think if I wasn't doing this show, I maybe wouldn't have done. But, I mean, it's worth seeing it because, like I said, it's so colourful.
Starting point is 01:11:19 It's full of action and explosions. Are people going to watch the Red Swamp? Is that the draw? I would say. The famous Baywatch Red Swimming. Are they still high cut? It's the body beautiful. They're really high cut.
Starting point is 01:11:29 And they do take the piss out of it as well. They do, they do at one point, they're having a conversation. Like, oh, why does that write up my air so much, you know, and things like that? And obviously, you have a bit of showboating with Zach Ephrod and the Rock. And obviously, I love that bit. Jesus Christ, he's ripped shreds to Zach'shaffron. Yeah, both for them with good bodies. The Rock's just big and he's, like, just slender and sexy.
Starting point is 01:11:49 But the girls are like hot, but my thing is like, the high cut costume is not that special anymore. Like, back in the 80s, dad would be like, I'm going to watch Baywatch. You kids. He keeps going to play in your room. I'm watching the slow-mo bounce as well. I'm in the shed watching Baywatch. Mommy, why does Danny once go on the show? Shut up.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Your daddy doesn't watch that show. Don't you tell your grandparents your daddy watching that show? But see, that spirit is still captured with the film, you know, and I think they did a good job. The writers actually have only written another couple of feature films before and that was the remake of Friday the 13th
Starting point is 01:12:23 and I think there was a like a Freddy versus Jason. And so, you know, they're used to the ridiculous. You know, and I think they did a good job. Right, enough about Baywatching the X-Mossils. What else did you have a look at? I also started watching The Keepers, which is a documentary on Netflix. It's by the makers of Making a Murderer. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:45 So straight away, really, you know, it's going to be good. They are a good calibre of, you know, documentary makers. I've only seen one episode, and it's around the... Watch this one? Netflix. It's around the murder of a nun called Sister Catherine Sesnik, I think. In 1970 it was. True story, is it?
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah, true story. It's a documentary, like I said, like making the murder. It's in 10 parts, I think. Wow. Yeah, so I have only watched the first one, but it's not even just about the murder. It's what the cover-up of that murder then, you know, sort of exploded out this whole hidden world of abuse, basically. at the hands of Catholic priests. The keepers, yeah?
Starting point is 01:13:28 There was a film recently. Spotlight. That was amazing. Yeah, and it's around that sort of... What are you watching on Netflix at the minute, Sean? I've started watching Dear White People. I haven't watched all of it yet, but I did watch the episode directed by Barry Jenkins, the Moonlight guy.
Starting point is 01:13:45 How are you finding it? Any good? Yeah, so good. That episode is... It's really good anyway, but that episode especially... I'm going to add that to my list, man. I don't think I've even added that to my list. Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Wow. I can tell. It was amazing. I'm going to tell. I'm going to do it right now. right now and do white people to my list. Well done.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah. That is really good and just for like light entertainment Unbreakable Kimmy Shitt. Schmidt, how do you say it? No. Shmit Schmidt.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I love tyres. He's like one of my favorite characters on TV. Yeah, no, I'm digging that character. But I got to tell you man, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. I watched season one. Yeah. And I was like, okay,
Starting point is 01:14:16 this show looks like a show I'm digging. I watched season one. And then it just, there was one episode where they were pulling a dolphin down the street like walking a dolphin. And I was like, okay, you're kind of losing me now. She was born.
Starting point is 01:14:27 We got to spend disbelief quite a lot. No. No, no, it just went. It just went. It just went a different way. All right. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to carry on with Lucy in a second. We've got an email in here.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Hi, and Noel and Shanika. It was a little awkward when you chatted about the sexy. What's the worst scene you've ever had to film? Ha ha. Chelsea. Chessa. In Northampton. Chessa.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I bet you loved it. Right. The worst film I've ever had to see. Worst scene I've ever had to film. I don't know you know. I don't know the worst one. I can think of an uncomfortable one, not like an awkward uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Do you remember when we were filming in 4-3-2-1? Yes. And we were on that bridge. What bridge was it? Westminster Bridge. And it was just so, so cold. And obviously, Keros doesn't wear much clothes. I was so cold.
Starting point is 01:15:16 It was like 4 o'clock in the morning. I was freezing. It was like, ah. And then they'd be like, go. And you just have to like firm it for a few minutes. And then after we should be freezing again. I was like, Ha ha,
Starting point is 01:15:26 I ferm you up. Yeah, man, that was, that was chilly. I was obviously directing to her clothes on. Yeah. Yeah, you were in trouble.
Starting point is 01:15:32 No coats. Not much clothes. Just cold. I don't know what the worst scene I've had to film was done. It's hard to pick, it's hard to pick. There's been a few,
Starting point is 01:15:39 a few. But anything with water, anything with water where your feet are getting wet and your clothes are wet and then you have to change and do it again. It's just horrible.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Horrible. So that stuff, Chesla. Another one from Tom and Crouch and High No, It's so expensive to go to the cinema near my house It's like 15 quid for an adult ticket
Starting point is 01:15:55 But I want to support British film's house I'm mate I don't know what to tell you bro Find a Sydney World It is expensive There you go Find a Sydney world Thank you Sydney World
Starting point is 01:16:04 You should now become a sponsor of this show By the way guys They should also give me my Ticket for free And you should get You know what I'm serious You guys start looking at that
Starting point is 01:16:14 Also Free tickets because which is a film reviewer And get Cinewell You should be done show I get I pay 17 pound 50 a month and I literally rinse the shit out of it. I really do. I go twice the week, probably sometimes more.
Starting point is 01:16:28 So there you go to Tom. That's a good advice of Tom. But also, a lot of cinemas have like a cheap night. They do. So find out which cinemas near you. I'm not surprised, Shinika knows that, by the way. I'm frugal. That's why I am.
Starting point is 01:16:41 It's frugal, is that what you call it? Hashtag scrooge, hashtag scrooge. So Tom, find your cheap night that Shinika could probably tell you about at your local. All your deals. Get your deals Like Lucy's got her Unlimited card
Starting point is 01:16:55 All right And then what else Lucy What else have I been watching? Yeah Wonder Woman No I haven't been to see that yet Is that? I will go this weekend
Starting point is 01:17:04 Is it out? Is it out this weekend? Yeah I do sort of want to see it But I kind of have to I kind of want to see it And I don't
Starting point is 01:17:13 I'm not like a Marvel Like kind of fact DC DC I'm not kind of like a Superhero Comic book Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:20 But I want to see it I want to see a woman it's been the first one. And just quickly, before I go to a track, before we come back, now that you guys are here, what we're saying about this Jessica's Chastain thing, what do you guys feel about the women
Starting point is 01:17:29 not represented properly at Cannes? I loved what she said. It was so eloquent and succinct what she was saying, how she put it to the panel, and hopefully it will get people thinking because she was talking about the fact that the representation of women,
Starting point is 01:17:42 she'd watched so many films, and it was really disturbing to her, the representation of the kinds of women that she was seeing in these films, and not the kind of people that she knows in her real life. And I can totally relate to that. To be fair, she always does a good job.
Starting point is 01:17:56 She is very eloquent and she knows her shit. She's great. She doesn't shy away from saying what she wants to say, does she? I think there needs to be, I think the key is more female writers and female directors. It's not. Female directors, definitely. I think that that's a key component in this, because I bet you most of those films she watched were directed by men. Probably.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And written by men. And the thing is, I try. even I try. I've written 431, I've written fast girls, you know, I try but if you're not, as much I'm, and you guys know me, I'm a feminist and all that kind of shit, right? But you can't always, if you're not a woman, you can't
Starting point is 01:18:33 always get it right. And that's not, and that's not a stupid thing as in, because you're not gay and black, you can't write about gay and black people. You can't write whatever you like, but there's certain nuances and certain things and certain things that you guys know that I just can't know. Yeah. But I think you do a good job, right? You do a good job and you do take on advice if people are
Starting point is 01:18:51 telling you something, you will listen and try and incorporate that where I guess some of these other writers and directors think they know it all and won't. Yeah. Yeah. So someone says, yeah, we're talking about the Betra Wallace test, which you've talked about and said that even brotherhood just about past it. I see you a little cheeky interview. I should text there about her. So Beto Wallace test asks whether a work of fiction features at least two women or girls who talk to each other about something other than a man or a boy. And I think obviously that stuff's important. But, you know, until we have more female directors and female writers that are writing female stories that men want to see as well as women.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Also commissioners as well. As many female writers and directors as there are, if the commissioners are not putting them in a position where their films are getting made or getting funded and giving that push, then they'll just be there and still not being seen. All right, listen, I'm loving this. We're going to go to one more track and then we're going to come back for the last few minutes and wrap it all up. And this track is Window Shopper by 50 Cent from the film starring 50.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Get Rich or Die Trying Upo Yes 50 cent I'm cutting that early Because we're just having a nice Little chat in here
Starting point is 01:20:08 So Just to end on Anything else we should be watching Coming up Netflix Anything like that Well Season 3 of a lovely TV show Called Kingdom
Starting point is 01:20:18 Started Oh man don't even get me Do you know The weird thing is I love that show I love MMA But I've yet to watch Kingdom Because I don't want to get joined in
Starting point is 01:20:25 No please what's it I'm an MMA fan I do training I wasn't by I am now I do the training. I do the training. I got friends that are in MMA. See, I know what this.
Starting point is 01:20:34 My friend is the middleweight champion of the world, Michael Bisbee. Whenever I watch it, I think of you, and I think, why the hell do you not watch it? But then I also flip it around and think, you know the world of MMA. Yeah. You know, and you love it so much,
Starting point is 01:20:45 and you might watch it. How I met Michael originally was I wrote an MMA film. That's how I met him originally, which has never been made. And then since we've written a female one, completely different movie as well. Which I would love to see. But the male one, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:59 We're looking at making these films. We're looking at making these films. So, you know, that's, that's, that's, uh, that's a hope that also happened. Get on Kingdom if you can. The only issue is, it's only on Virgin Media in this country. It's, and also, this is the final season as well. Sidero. Um, there was some corporate bullshit.
Starting point is 01:21:17 It wasn't about ratings or anything. I'm not even lying. I'm a Skyman. I'm a Sky Netflix. Well, I was. Was, what's that? American, American God? American God?
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, I started watching that. Yeah, you're liking it. Because Jonathan Tucker, who is in Kingdom, he was Loki Lysmith in the first episode of American Gods. Well, he was his wife or something, that. I wish I was. I absolutely love him. But yeah, I stalk him, so I know what he does. He is the reason why I started watching American Gods, and I'm glad I did, because then I discovered that Ricky Whittles in it.
Starting point is 01:21:48 He is amazing. And I feel so proud of him, you know, coming from Holyoaks and working so hard. Yeah, he's done well. Yeah, he's done well. Yeah, he's done well. show. Amazing. Amazing. What a cool guy. And it's so weird and so messed up and it's just amazing. I love it.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah, it's so stylish. It's very off-key. It's on Amazon, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, on Amazon Prime. Oh man, these people must think I'm just like shit money. Like I want money to just be spending on all these... Every streaming service. Happy's got a hand out. But yeah, go on Kingdom if you can.
Starting point is 01:22:17 It's the third and final season at the moment. But it's full of brilliantly choreographed fights and you know, sex scenes and violence and drugs and all. all the good stuff you want, you know. Yeah, we're going to do that after. I've got my computer here. Yeah, good drama.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Okay, well, mate, listen, and just to sign off, how are we feeling about women in the industry and what do you want to see happen in the future? I want to see more women in positions of power, like we were saying. How do we get the girls there? How do we get them there? I think there needs to be more initiatives, perhaps, to encourage people into other positions in the industry rather than just... That they wouldn't normally pursue, you know.
Starting point is 01:22:56 and knowing about the different roles that there are like script supervisors, script editor things like that, knowing that there are these roles it's not just being in front of the camera yeah, there is so much more behind the camera going on, yeah. There's other things that they can then get in. Because women are still massively
Starting point is 01:23:10 underrepresented in every section of the industry which brings me full circle to why Emma Watson's award thing is not a good idea. No, it's not. Yeah, I don't think it's a good idea. I get where she's coming from as I was saying. I get where she's coming from
Starting point is 01:23:25 but I think she is not taking into consideration, her privileged position in the industry and all the people that are marginalised, for whatever reasons, disability, race, sexuality, they're not going to be getting the same level that she'll be getting. So she might get nominated for these non-gender binding awards, but other people are not. So they're just going to be forgotten. It's just going to be her and four men. Women at our number seven to one.
Starting point is 01:23:49 So we love you. We love what you're doing. We love what you're about. We love your stances on a lot of things. But that is one thing we don't agree with. I think they need to have all the awards categories just to make sure that people are actually getting what they need. And finally she actually won the first one.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Exactly. Well, that's just politics, in it? But you know what? I love you guys. I'm actually really enjoying this show. And I could talk for another hour with you guys about this stuff. And maybe one day we should just do a show where we address these issues. But right now, we've got to sign off.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Lucy Patterson, I love you. Thank you for coming in. Shanika, I love you for years. I love you loads. You know, my little sister. Thank you for coming in. I'm not happy that you were late. I know.
Starting point is 01:24:25 I know. I'm not. But now we're going to end with a song from a film, another film that you and I both star in. I directed. We all love. It's our main man Stormsy with Brotherhood from Brotherhood. This is being back row and show and I'm out, bitch. Bye.
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