Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 45 - Lady Rizo, Amy Morgan, Francesco De Carlo

Episode Date: July 24, 2017

This week Goub made his return – but as Jahannah’s cohost! Him and J spoke to two amazing guests who are taking Soho Theatre by storm with their amazing shows; Lady Rizo and Amy Morgan. Also in th...e studio, Francesco De Carlo popped by to chat about his Edinburgh Fringe Show. Lucy Patterson was back! She had a lot to say about Dunkirk. All this, plus entertainment news and mega lols.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. Good afternoon. It is Friday afternoon again. Keeps coming around. This is Back Row and Chill. I'm Johanna James.
Starting point is 00:00:17 I'm joined today by... Jebran, aka Jube Tube Tube. A.k.a. My boyfriend. Hey, baby. Yeah, we're venturing for the first time and doing the radio. together. So you guys can witness what goes on. Greatness. Whether or not this is going to work or not, maybe. I doubt it somehow.
Starting point is 00:00:36 We have a really packed show. So over the next two hours. We've got entertainment news coming up, letting you know what's going on in the world of film, theatre, TV, Netflix, all of that shes. And we also got some amazing guests lined up. And Lucy Patterson is back at 530, our resident film reviewer. She broke her foot last week and wasn't in. How?
Starting point is 00:00:54 Well, we can ask her this week, and I know how. I just saw an amazing picture of her foot on Instagram. I was like, ouch. So Lucy will be back. We've also reviewed a couple of things at the cinema, and I dragged tube to it as well. Quite literally dragged. Quite literally dragged and gagged.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Are we allowed to talk about that far? Well, we have now. I've also been researching, like, movie soundtracks that I have been loving this week, some old, some new. I've been focusing on credit openers of movies, my favourite opening credits and the songs. What, like... That is actually on there.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Oh, sick. I go in. Yes. Thanks for that rendition of Lion King. So I'm going to start off today with one of the best opening songs from last year from the film, Nerve. I really like the song. So we're going to kick off the show with that. It's Back Row and Chill.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So that was the opening song to the movie Nerve. Sorry, I just farted and it smells. Nice. That's a great start. And we are in like a fully locked air-conditioned studio. Thanks, baby. That actually stinks. It's like broccoli. I'm meeting broccoli right now.
Starting point is 00:02:08 That probably would be why. Thanks for letting us us know. What was that song called? It was called I Can't Get Enough. It reminded me of one of those YouTube advert songs. Oh yeah? Yeah. Oh, and you can't skip it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 It's the bane of my life. You're forced to listen to all stupid songs. Right, this is, I'm going to walk you through the show because you've never done a full show with me before, baby. Oh, come on, man. I'm a professional. Do you know who you're talking to, fam? Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:34 What does this button do? Ah! Are you joking? This is the part of the show which is called The Entertainment News. Would you like to do the audio queue for it? What do I do? Basically you just say
Starting point is 00:02:43 now it's time for the entertainment news in a really excited voice. Go. Well, now it's time for some entertaining news with Johanna James. Thank you. That was amazing. Wow, I jumped into that.
Starting point is 00:02:56 That was brilliant. That was perfect. That's better than how I'd do it. So, this is what's been going on in the world of sort of entertainment and life and film and stuff. A bit of sad news to start off. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:07 No, really sad news. Oh, what? The lead singer of... Oh, God, yeah, I know. Linker Park. I know. Chester Benington has been found... died, been founded at 41, age 41.
Starting point is 00:03:20 He hung himself, didn't he? I didn't actually know how he did it. He hung himself, and it was the day that his best friend died. The lead singer of audio scene? Yeah, several years ago. Yeah. Oh, I know. But he was married and he had six kids.
Starting point is 00:03:33 No. Six? And Lincoln Park was, that was the first album that I ever bought as like a purchasing customer of music. I bought Meteora and I was like 13. Lincoln Park were the first people, in my opinion, to make being like an emo or a goth kind of cool. Yeah, it was like the gangster kids that were just like, oh, rah, I can listen to some Lincoln Park right now. Yeah, they bridge the gap between the two subcultures because growing up there was definitely the massive divide between if you were, what, like, gambling. gangster and goth, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And yeah, so I'm like, no. So there's loads of, like, internet tributes being led and stuff. So, so sad. Are we going to be playing some of these songs? I would think of, maybe we should get a Lincoln Park on. Can we do numb? Was that your favorite one? Big Chone.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Okay, we'll get that on. Oh, was that one? I tried so hard. I got so far. In the end. In the end. There we go. In the end.
Starting point is 00:04:27 All right, we got there. And we're talking of music as well. Despacito has become the most streamed. song ever in the history of ever. That can't be right. Well, apparently, though. What, it's gone past size. Gangnam style.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. Shut the front door. How's that even possible? He's got like three and a half billion views on YouTube. It's the most streamed song. Oh, streamed? Yeah. So the most listen to streaming song.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Despacito, but... It's not even that good. It is freaking catchy, though. Like, if it comes on, even now. I don't like the song anymore, but even now I'm like, oh yeah. I prefer singing dentist version. Shout out to the singing dentist. Yeah, if you guys don't know who there is,
Starting point is 00:05:06 it's an actual dentist on the internet who does parody wraps in his dentist chair. And he's actually called Millad, and he's now our personal dentist. And he's amazing. So go check him out, Google's The Singing Dentist, and you're going to find out who he is. Game of Thrones has finally returned this week.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Huge fan. You're a huge fan, aren't you, baby? I love Game of Thrones. I love Game of Thrones. What did you think about the returning episode? I feel like they missed a trick This was their opportunity I don't know if you guys are aware of Game of Thrones
Starting point is 00:05:41 But there was an episode called Battle of the Bastards Which is one of the most entertaining episodes Of a series I've ever seen Was that the two kings on the battle? There's the second to last episode I believe And look, everyone's been talking about Game of Thrones It's back! Oh, I can't wait to watch it Ah! You watch it and you're like, oh
Starting point is 00:05:59 That was kind of boring We waited a year for that For us that are fans and understand the series, we get it. But for people that are just like trying to give it a chance. It's just completely ruined it for them. They're like, I don't get Game of Thrones. So the second episode, better have effing fire. Am I allowed to swear?
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yes, good by. They're about fucking fireworks, all right? No, for sure. I was like, I hyped it up. Maybe it was because I was hyping it up so much. And then I realized I felt like nothing happened. Nobody died. I didn't see any boobs.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But this is Game of Thrones. So you know they're setting something up. They're setting something up. Some crazy Shiz-shis-nay. That was really. I'm crazy shit's going down. That was really shit foreplay, I felt. If they are setting something up, it still
Starting point is 00:06:38 wasn't working. Well, you're used to shit foreplay. So, moving on. Ed Shearin was in the first episode, which has got like a huge backlash of hate. They got backlash? Yeah, yeah. Fans do not like the fact that Ed Shearan was in it. Because he's not the first, like, Famo person to be given a little cameo role.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But he is Ed Shearin, and people are basically saying that it just completely, like they lost, believability. It ruined the magic. And also, it was dead. Like, if you're going to have Ed Shearhan, you might as well make him sing something good. I thought they were going to kill Ed Sheeran or something.
Starting point is 00:07:12 That would have been amazing. He should have popped up and had his head chopped off or something. But, no, he just sort of came on and sang and said one line. It's the new one. Yeah, it wasn't. Dead. I just spat food all over the microphone. Can you stop farting and spitting in my studio, please, thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Sorry. Oh, Ed Shearin, though, also, he just announced. So not only is he in Game of Friends, he's about to be in another massive long-running series. Can you guess what it is? The Walking Dead. Nope. Don't do this.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I know, I got this. Prison break. No, it's on its 29th series. The Wy and No. EastEnders. I don't know. What was he going to be on? The Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Oh, my God, I should have known that. Yeah, Ed Shearin is going to play Lisa's love interest. I was going to say jackass. How long are they even going to go? for. I don't think we got 29 series. I know. I was trying to be funny, but thanks for learning it. Okay, right. Sorry. 29 series of Simpsons, that thing will not stop. I think it's probably going to go on longer than we will ever live. No, I saw an article saying that Simpsons are going to end it soon.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Oh, well, I don't know. Which one's true, guys? Is it going to go on forever or is it going to end? Do we want it to go on forever? Do we want it to go on forever? Of course we want it to go on forever. That was my tea time, my tea time and sit down and watch the Simpsons. Fresh Prince, followed by the Simpsons. No, do you know what it was for me? Run home from school. CITV. Pokemon, Digimon, Diggin' on. And then Saturday, it was SMTV Live.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You watched Digit? You didn't get up and watch Digit. Who watches Digit? I watch Digget. No, losers watch Digget. And then SMTVey live, occasionally I go over to Live and Kicking, but that was more for the posh kids, I feel.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, live and Kicking didn't really have. It weren't really kicking. It was live. I was on Live and Kicking once. Was you actually? Yeah. That's really embarrassing. When I was nine, I'm going to have to end our relationship.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I've got a copy of it on VHS. I don't want to watch it. I'm really cute. And I ask a question. Did you just say, I'm really cute. I am really cute. Jesus Christ, you're also humble as well.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I'm teeny tiny and I've got this massive teeth. Nothing's changed, guys. I get selected to ask like the captain of the England cricket team a question and it gets to me and I freeze up and I have this massive frog in my throat and so I ask him a question like, did you like to win the World Cricket cereal? Something like that and I embarrass myself. That's a really cool story, Johan. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:31 All right. I rude by shop top Was that aimed at me or you for the dead story? Zim to you for me rude to me Okay, we're going to continue with a little bit more entertainment news And we're going to have our first guest On the show coming up
Starting point is 00:09:45 After the break So now we're going to continue With opening songs of movies that I really enjoy Do you like the movie Matilda? Yes Well, this is my favourite song From the opening of Matilda The tune
Starting point is 00:09:58 Big tune Send me on my room. And chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. It's back row and chill with Johanna James. And this week. Can we get, well, hold on. He didn't mention my name. Can we get that changed?
Starting point is 00:10:15 We'll have to do it again. Who is that dude? Get him in here to do a voiceover and say my name. Say my name, little bitch. What is your name, babe? What is your name? Jub. And, yes, one of many that you have names.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I have many monikas. Many monik, that's the word. Fat boy, not slim. Mr. Chubb. Big pig. I got quite a few names. They usually hurt my feelings. Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And we have our first guest in the studio, so a huge welcome to Amy Morgan. I need like an applause sound. Oh, you do. It just sounds like, what is that? It's like people have sex, isn't it? Sure, anyway, sure. You were here to talk about your show
Starting point is 00:10:53 that's on at Soho Theatre. I am. Called Touch. Yeah. What is that about? Okay, so it's about a girl called Dee, who's 33, and she lives in this tiny little bed sit in London, but she's moved up from Wales
Starting point is 00:11:06 because she wants new experiences and she wants to get rid of her old life, start again, and experience new things in her early 30s, essentially. Lose all her money and... Yeah, exactly, she doesn't have any money to start with, to be fair. And so she comes up and sort of, yes, explores all avenues of her sex life and her work life and meets lots of very interesting people. And do you play...
Starting point is 00:11:29 I play D. Do you play D? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And how did you get involved in the project? So I did a play with Phoebe Wallerbridge in 2012, who's star of Fleabag. Oh my God, my idol. Oh, my gosh. She's everyone's idol, right? I know. Do you?
Starting point is 00:11:43 Yes, you talk about Flea Bag so much. Yeah, I love you. It was amazing. Yeah. So I did a play with her, and that's how I met her, her and Vicky, who wrote and directed Touch, and they're sort of best mates, and we all just hang out together, and we've always wanted to work together since then. And so Vicky approached me about a year ago and said she was writing this play.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's quite personal to her a lot of it. It's, you know, she just found us. in her early 30s going, I still don't feel like I've done everything. I still want to do things. And then she said, would you like to play it? So I was like, yes, please. Yes, please. Thank you, ma'am. Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And so, yeah, so we've spent the last sort of 12 months working on it with her and workshoping it and things. And this is how we've ended up with touch. And have you done the Soho Theatre before? Is that brand new experience for you? No, new for me. I'm usually in a corset in sort of a 17th century, something or other. Nice.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Yes, well, that's my dream. Sure. We've done about eight years of that now, though. So this has been really fun. Yeah. Yeah. I did a lot of Amdram growing up and I realised that, yeah, I was doing like sort of Cinderella and Jack the Rippers and sort of David Copperfields. And I realised that I'd only ever been on stage in this like full big gown.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I was just like, it would be really weird to go on stage in like normal clothes and be like a normal. It does feel a bit weird at first. You're sort of just a bit like, am I just on, am I just me now on stage? Where's my rouge? Yes, exactly. But yeah, you just get used to it. It's quite nice. It's an hour and a half straight through in the bar by 845.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Oh, lovely. I know. So, sorry, I've got a question. So you said that the main character, D, she's from Wales living in England, right? Yeah. You must identify with that character massively, right? Does that help you slip into character?
Starting point is 00:13:21 I mean, yes, Vicky very kindly sort of, she wanted to write by her experiences, but she sort of wrote it with me in mind, which was nice. That's why it's Welsh, and, you know, that's why she comes up. And so it's part me, part of it. but it's, yes, it's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Why is it called Touch? It's a good question. To be honest, I don't think there's a huge amount of sort of philosophical debates by that. I think here and Phoebe spent quite a few hours trying to come up with the name for it because they were running out of time. And they were like, well, they came up with quite a few names. Originally it was called Hookup, which they thought was a bit on the nose. And not necessarily what it's about really.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And they just thought touch covered quite. a lot of... We all need touch. We all need to be touch. We need to touch other people. We still emotionally and physically. You know, with consent. Inappropriately. With consent. Always. I do this weird thing that I found a couple years ago I started doing, which is called
Starting point is 00:14:16 self-soothing. Which is basically where you touch yourself. Right. Okay, this is sounding really. I need to clarify. But basically, it's in between being asleep and awake, there's like a weird little 10 minute overlap where you can actually tickle yourself. Or you can
Starting point is 00:14:32 you can not be aware that it's you touching your own arm or whatever. So a couple of times I wake up and I'm like tickling my own arms up and down. Which is like the freakiest thing ever of anyone sharing a bed with me and they wake up and I'm just like asleep but tickling my arms like this. And it scares me. I wake up like, oh my God, what am I doing? And I spoke to someone about it and I looked on a forum online and it's a thing called self-soothing. And it's when you basically need touch. You need someone to touch you and there isn't anyone or you haven't had enough.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So you self-you touch yourself. Well, I mean, I think that's a really nice sort of, why is there in a place? I often self-sudes. Self-suth. I can't say, say that three times. Self-south-to-s, self-tootho. That's really hard. Self-soothe, yeah, it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It's just like a weird little thing. It's just a little like... But that's quite nice metaphor as well as to the play. I mean, I might just like nick that and actually just start saying that. Yeah. That's what it's supposed. It's like self-soothing yourself when you're in your 30s. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah. But, yeah. And so how long, it's already running, it's up and running. Yes. A few weeks in. But three weeks in. And when does it continue to? Until the 26th of August.
Starting point is 00:15:31 A nice long run. Yeah. that's good. Yeah, sometimes. I think originally it was six weeks, but because Fleabag did so well, it's the same people, so they extended it for an extra two weeks
Starting point is 00:15:40 very early on. And it's like almost sold out, but you can get returns and you can, you know, they always release a couple of house seats every day around three o'clock, so you can get tickets for it, but you might just have to be a bit quick on the board.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Be on it, be a bit on it. Yeah. And so you're not, it's not just you in it. There's a lot of cast members as well. Yeah. Well, two of the boys, I went to, I studied at Royal Welsh in Cardiff, drama school. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Two of the other boys are in it as well. So I already knew those, which is really nice. Oh, Pal's from Home. Yeah, but I mean, a bit weird, kissing your mates on stage. That's a bit weird. I know. I'm not about to get used to that in rehearsals, but it's actually really nice just, like, having someone you know, because it sort of cuts the, like, awkwardness in a way.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Because it's a different type of awkwardness, but you get over it quicker. I've done that in auditions when I've gone for, like, commercial auditions for Toyota, and they put you in the room, and they're, like, they just pair you up random. family and they're like, uh, there'll be you and David, you and you and you got to go in and and they're like, right, you're proposing to each other, you're in the moment and you're kissing and it's like, you literally just met this person and they're like, okay, yes, I'm okay, you're all. It's hilarious. There's no other industry would you have to do that. It's mental. It's very weird. I hope you're not doing any more of these auditions.
Starting point is 00:16:50 No, no, this has not been for a while, but I'll let you know. But I have been to many weird auditions so they make me jump in. The most recent one was they were trying to make me be like best friends with this girl that I just met and they were like, take a load of selfies on your phone with this random stranger. And so we had loads of random best-mail selfies. Always awkward, isn't it? Oh, God. Yeah. I mean, this is often the advert ones. They just, because they haven't got the time.
Starting point is 00:17:13 They're just like, in and out, in and out. Do this, do that. You're like, oh. Yeah. And whenever you think it's gone well, it hasn't. And when you think it's like bombed, they're like, we'd like to call you back. Yes. You're like, really? Apparently, I can eat yogurt really well, I found out. Interesting. I got a call. And cheese.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And cheese. And cheese. But for a mullah yogurt. advert, I went in and they were like, people were going to film you eating this yogurt and apparently I did the right amount of like, you've got to do like a scoop and a bump. Oh, Jesus Christ. How pretentious can you be? That's mad. Scoop, bump and then you've got the right amount of pleasure. You can't be too sexual but you've got to
Starting point is 00:17:45 show you're enjoying it. Well, I mean, and like, it's pretty sexual I think when she eats her. So apparently I eat yogurt well, but that's like... Well, that's good. That's great. I'm not sure if I should really shut off about. You should see her eat cheese. It's incredible. Oh yeah. He's been quite surprised. It's a feat. I don't know if not you know what.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Ors in or borson. Oh, sure. It's like this really strong cheese. Yeah, I know the one. She'll eat it on its own. Just like... I totally understand that. I totally get that.
Starting point is 00:18:09 It's a great cheese. He's found like the whole empty packet and been like, you have you, where's that gone? And her breath smells for at least seven days. You're like, where's the cheese. Oh, I can smell it. I know where it is good. Yeah, that's another talent. I can eat a lot of cheese in one sitting.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Excellent. Yeah. And so what are you, what are you plans? So this is pretty much all your summer. It's going to be at so-ho. This is, yes, pretty much all my summer. And then I'm not sure. sure. I'm not sure. Yep. That's a really
Starting point is 00:18:33 mean question to ask because I hate it when people ask me that. They're like, what's your next project? I'm like, I don't know. Exactly. You just don't know. I'm just living life. I'm just sure, sure. You're so used to it, though. It's just what happens. It's just life, isn't it? And has anything gone wrong? Because that's one of my favourite thing about live there, because that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It's in the moment. Whatever happens happens. You've got to save it or move it around. Absolutely. Let me think in this. We've been going that long for things to go wrong yet. I mean, I don't think I've ever done it all the way through without missing a life. or making something out. That relaxes me so much.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Honestly, I don't think I've done it all the week. Because also it's like, it's such naturalistic dialogue. And a lot of it is like, Vicky was listening to me while we were workshop and writing it down. So a lot of it is like verbatim. Oh, yeah. But so you sort of get halfway through and you go, hang on, that was not the line. I definitely just made that out. It's creative license though really, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's like, it's just how Vicki would feel about that. It's still, oh. Sometimes, yeah, sometimes you get directors who are really like, put it in your own words and it's fine. And some you get directors and they're like, oh, you didn't, you didn't, pause. Yeah, I know. There was a pause there and you missed that pause. I was like, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I know. She's pretty good. I'm trying to wet myself on stage, okay? Just be happy. I've said something. Well, there's like 24 scenes. I've never done a show with so many scenes. They're quite short.
Starting point is 00:19:42 They're a bit like telescenes. And so, and there's like five of us, five different characters that come on and just have duologs with me. So they just come on and go off, come on and go off. And for a long time, I had absolutely no idea who was coming on next. And I had a little cheat sheet on the fridge. And it just said like, E, E, or the first letter of the characters initials. I had absolutely no idea.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I did a play Peter Pan years ago. And it was my absolute dream to play Wendy and like, well, ah. And it was like the worst, worst, worst ever production of it ever. Really budget, really like awful. The crocodile was on a skateboard, that kind of thing. Oh, brilliant. They couldn't actually hoist us from the ceilings because when they got to the theatre, the beam wouldn't hold us.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So we had to do the flying in blackouts. Off to Neverland! Blackout! Come up, here we are! It was like, it was really, really awful. But on the first night, the over the first night that over, opening night we all went out and it was supposed to be the bedroom scene with Wendy and the boys and stuff and there's supposed to be this whole scene with Nana and everything and we all come out all of us forget what the fuck's going on and we and we just and it felt like an eternity we were just standing there looking at the audience like somebody say something each of us looking
Starting point is 00:20:47 and you and then and then so at the end I just go right children off to bed and we get so you just skip the whole scene skip to the end I think all the stage managers about stage we like we haven't even what else up the props are It's a good job everyone knew the story. We got to Neverland in the end. Yeah, sure. Quite quickly, probably. That was like the worst cover I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Right, off to bed. Right, right, off to bed. I know. I'm dangerously close to cutting whole scenes sometimes yet. Someone comes on and I start the wrong scene and you're like, ooh, okay. Where am I meant to be? What are I meant to be saying? But you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:22 The audience don't know. Unless they've come every night. Exactly. They don't know. It's fine. We have a very lovely audience as well with lots of different types of people in and every night is different. Do you know what they're going to laugh at?
Starting point is 00:21:33 And, cool. Sort of, like, looking to the future, what would be your, like, dream role? Like, something really juicy. Oh, not sure. I mean, the fleabag vibe is definitely up my street. Something just, I really, really love Julia Davis, like, all of her really dark comedies.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I love Nighty Night. And she's this thing on Sky called Camping, which is just brilliant. Oh, I've heard about that, but I haven't seen it. Oh, they're so good. So I'd love to do, like, I'd quite like to sort of, write and do it as well. Like that really dark comedy for Channel 4 or something. Or like flowers.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Did you see flowers? No. So good. I just, yeah. So I really love that kind of comedy that's like teetering on the edge. It's like, ooh,
Starting point is 00:22:14 is that funny? Is it not? Like I kind of love that. Oh, God, no. Sounds like your friend's fantasy. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:22 racism amongst my friend group is hilarious. I really love it. We're very multicultural. It's not like we just pick on like the ethnic in the group, which would be. but yeah on the edge on the cusp that's why something's funny we get a lot of slack on because we make comedy videos for the internet and we can get a lot of slack or people trolling
Starting point is 00:22:42 because they they take jokes too literally and sometimes like the reason why something is funny is because it shocks you and you burst out laughing is also a nervous reaction as well well also it's too too familiar sometimes the flea bag thing is a classic example of the kind of dark comedy I'm talking about It's like, people go, they're so shocked, but there's a little bit of them that's actually thought that.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Oh, it feels that. And I'm like, oh, yes, that's me, you know, like, so good.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Who is it that she's secretly wanking to? Is it Barack Obama? I know. There's like, so many women that are like, like, oh, yeah, I may have done that.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Oh my gosh, you could see into my mind. Why is that secret, though? Barak is a sexy mofo. He is a good looking dude. He's like 50 and he's, he looks like he's at least 35.
Starting point is 00:23:25 He's, yeah. Yeah, he's fit. I mean, Apart from the grey hair, obviously. No, but silver fox. Still, yeah, absolutely. Good looking dude.
Starting point is 00:23:32 He can really pull that off. Women love that. Well, thank you so much. If anyone's just joined us, we're talking about Touch, which is on at the Soho Theatre. It's going to be until the 26th of August. You've got so much time.
Starting point is 00:23:42 So much time to go. Come along. We are running through, like, top opening songs of movies. Right. That have been either voted for, by the people or by myself. And this one, babe, this one's for you,
Starting point is 00:23:54 because you suggested this one at home. Big tune coming up. Can you guess? you guess? I don't know. What is it? This one. Ah, very good.
Starting point is 00:24:03 It's a bit of Lion King on Back Row and Chill. All right, stop talking. It's Poppinson. It's Kent Jones. And usually I like to be in the front. But right now, this is Back Row and Chill. It is. It's Back Row and Chill.
Starting point is 00:24:19 We're back. It's Joanna James and I'm joined today by... Oh, come on. Give me a better intro than that. Okay. Give some energy. Go. It's Johanna James and I am joined today by...
Starting point is 00:24:31 The only, the one and only Tube Tube! Yeah, it's not that exciting, is it? Yep, okay. Well, we have another exciting person in the studio as well, to be fair. We have our second guest, so a huge welcome to Francesco DiCarlo. Hi, hi, guys. That's a sexy-ass name now, that's called. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. Anything with a duh in, it's really good. Oh, really? It's just the de. Like Da Vinci or... She likes the da. Just that. She's a fan of the duh. And well, you're here today to talk about your new show,
Starting point is 00:25:01 Comfort Zone. Yeah, I will call it Comfort Dazone. If you like it. I can call you whatever you like. Yeah. And it is a stand-up show that you are doing in Edinburgh Fringe. Yeah, full run from the beginning to the end of the festival. Which is a whole nine month, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah, from the second to the 28th, I think. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Underbelly, Wicoo. And have you been to the Fringe before? Yes, in 2014, it was like a mess. Like, in a good way. In a good way. I remember that I learned the word demanding in English in that occasion.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Because everybody was saying, the fringe is demanding. Demangling. They say, what does it mean? And now I know because it's very, very stressful, but it's very, very good and joyful. And you meet a lot of people and it's a very, very great experience. And so where are you from originally? Rome. From Rome, Italy.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah. Have you ever been? No. is on my like top five places. I'm terrified of planes. Really? Bro. We could probably drive to Rome. I would rather walk.
Starting point is 00:26:06 We could drive to Italy. Be able to be quite long. We can't visit you. Yeah, yeah. But from Rome, okay, so when did you come over here? Now I'm here since a couple of months. Okay. Yes. And
Starting point is 00:26:20 I think I will stay. You know, my dream was to move here forever, but you voted to live. leave Europe. Damn it, you got us. I know. I used to have an Italian housemate and that was all, I live with him while all the Brexit thing was going on and it was like
Starting point is 00:26:37 really gutting because he was, because he works, he splits work between Italy and London. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, I'm fucked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what I thought. So the result. And basically the show is about this, about having a dream to come here and leave your country and then you voted
Starting point is 00:26:53 to leave Europe and I was devastated. But it was a good situation. situation anyway because I was outside of my comfort zone you know and it's a good way to meet new people change your ideas and grow up and so it's all about the experience and now I am playing the role of the immigrant like it is the main character of modern society everybody's talking about me and people like me so it's a good it's a good situation is it hard to do stands up in the second language, in English language. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:27:29 But it's very, you know, there is a part of your mind that you never use. You use only in this occasion, and it's like tickling. You know, sometimes it's very, very funny for you, but sometimes you, if you miss some word, and then the audience don't understand the joke, and so you have to do it a lot of times. And I did a preview last week, and a lot of British friends, I was saying, you know, this part of the material is not still ready. and they say, no, no, it's the English. We didn't understand what you were saying.
Starting point is 00:27:57 We literally, now it's getting better because you have to do much more rehearsal than your first language. What do you do? Say you're on stage. The crowd listening to you, you got a couple laughs, and then you say something, and it completely goes to shit, and no one's laughing.
Starting point is 00:28:12 How do you save it? You repeat it. Say it slower. It's slower, it's trying to very clear, and you try to use... I use a lot of synonyms. synony. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So, like, to say the same, well, I'm not sure. I say, it's different, kind of the same word and the same meaning. And so it's interesting. It's interesting. I think that's actually an amazing concept for a stand-up, a stand-up comedian who gets stuff wrong with the language, but it's, or maybe like, but it's so wrong that it's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And sometimes it's good to improvise, because, you know, for me, sheep and sheep, the similar,
Starting point is 00:28:53 So you understand this from the context. So can you imagine if you do this mistake and people understand sheep instead of sheep? And for me as this... Yeah, I took a ship. I was like, what? No! Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Oh, amazing. And did you always know you wanted to stand up or did you kind of fall into it? Did you go for it? Well, before these, I was working at the European Parliament. I was into a very serious job. I graduated in political science. and after a while I got bored of politics and I said I don't want to talk about politics anymore
Starting point is 00:29:30 and so I started to do I wrote a song about Berlusconia and Banga Banga can I have a rendition it was a parody and they went viral in Italy yeah you're very well known in Italy so no no for disease or no for that reason and and it's it's it's all about this song because I changed my life because a friend of mine called me that you had a radio show and they called me and they say we're looking for people do you want to come and I say okay okay we come
Starting point is 00:29:59 and I started to do this show it was about prank calls you know you call people and we did five years of this show and I said you know what it's a big step from a rebellion parliament to do prank calls but nobody will know it's a little station in the show went so popular
Starting point is 00:30:16 it was so popular that everybody was worried about me my friends and I said are you okay why because you've been in In two weeks, we've been from talking about Russian Revolution for hours to call in old ladies and make fun of them. Yeah. And so this was before, because obviously pranking is one of the biggest things on the internet now. It's the biggest trend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 In Italy, it was a very, very good show, to be honest. It was only prankles. So it's a huge. And to be honest, the radio station now is very, very well-known. Okay. You're not allowed to prank anyone on the radio anymore. Really? Yeah, they made a rule. You have to, if you're going to do it live, you have to let them know that they're on the radio.
Starting point is 00:31:02 So which kind of ruins the prank little bit. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, they've made it illegal because a prank went really wrong. Oh, I remember. A few years ago. And they called up a nurse pretending to they were the queen so that they could speak to the princess when she was in hospital. You know what? From my Italian point of view, it's interesting to say that in Italy, prancals have a reason,
Starting point is 00:31:22 especially in Rome because people react in a very, very passionate way, whatever you say to them. You know, say, hello, I'm the postman. It's very, very funny. Here, with the British people, you are much more educated than calm. I don't know how much it can be interesting to do, frankly. Yeah, it's, I used to, well, I used to prank call, it used to be the thing when you were a kid. You ever sleepover and what if you do? Like, let's call someone.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, let's order a pizza to the opposite house and watch. Yeah. The drama that unfolds is really boring. But you've got to have some balls, I think, to prank call. Especially if you do that, I like the prank calls where people, like, call into a work that they don't, a job they don't work out and calling sick and just like the confusion that goes on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to be in today. But yeah, so now you've either got to pre-record them for the radio or if you're live, you've got to let them know that you're on the radio, which is really weird.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah. Kind of ruins the premise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I think people are like, hi, I'm calling to calling sick, but you're also live on the radio. Like, what? So, comfort zone. And have you ever done stuff? So this is a solo, obviously solo.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Have you ever performed with other people? Would you like to perform? Would you like to go down some acting? Or do you want to stick to? Acting like not stand-up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I never did it. I would love to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But there is a reason why it never did it. So probably are not good in acting. Who knows? Well, you never know. You never know. You never know. Until you take a whack at it. Yeah, I think I try to do improv.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Oh, yeah. Improv, you have to be very open to other people, but I'm very, very selfish, so I try to take the scene and do all the jokes. And it's not improv, it's just being selfish. It's the way that improv, what you've got to say, yes. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know that, premise? I have no idea what you two are talking about. So, in improv, improvisational skills, you share the stage of other people, and the only way that it keeps rolling and the scene goes anywhere is that you have to accept what someone else gives you, you can't reject it.
Starting point is 00:33:21 So if someone goes, you're pretending that you're in a studio and someone goes, oh no, there's the police. You can't go, no, there's not. You have to go, yes, but they're midgets. You know what you mean? You have to say yes and you can't. This scene just completely falls apart if you reject anybody's thing. So it is hard to do. And yeah, like you said, you cannot be selfish.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You have to keep pushing the light on the other person and hope, well, you're trusting them to push the light back on you. It's like a mutual thing. Yeah, yeah. can't be like, and yes, I was inserting my material from stand-up which is completely
Starting point is 00:33:56 unethical. Pre-made jokes. Oh, what, you were cheating. Yeah, I like that though. You're one step ahead of the cut. Well,
Starting point is 00:34:06 without improv, it's supposed to be like improvised. Yeah, yeah. It's a totally different thing and I did it just a couple of times I say never. It's really, really hard,
Starting point is 00:34:15 but you can see a lot of actors who come from an improv background, you can see, unfold like Robin Williams was an improvised and you see everything that he does in a lot of movies is off the cuff and yeah yeah yeah and there is a set list which is like a stand-up improvised you know and there is a video about Robin Williams doing this
Starting point is 00:34:34 like improvising stand-up they just say they tell you they say to you like a topic yeah and you have to improvise a monologue I think I've seen him do it about golf yes it's incredible it's incredible it was incredible I mean stand-up's hard and that's when you've prepared and you've practiced and you've done your Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I just get it up and just be funny now? Like, oh my God, that is talent. Would you ever do that?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Would you ever put yourself? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't have the talent. Would you ever do stand-up? Man walks into a bar. Ouch. I recycled that from Google. No, I'm not going to do stand-up.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I think I'm going to stay away from... I'm tempted to do it. Really? Yeah, really tempted. But it's good in any way, you know, even when you bomb. It's not just a skill set, though. I think it's a mentality as well.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Your brain has to be geared in a certain. So directors, cameramen, they're editors. They're different to talent because they see stuff in frames. And it's the same with comedy. You need to see it as set-ups and timing. And then also how to work a crowd. Demographics, where are they from? What jokes would they understand and appreciate which ones wouldn't they understand?
Starting point is 00:35:41 And then on top of that, if I've just bombed, am I going to crumble like a cookie? Or am I going to use it? I'm going to go, tough crowd. And then pull it back. Do you know what I mean? It's so intricate and difficult. I feel like you have to be a special human being
Starting point is 00:35:53 to really be a stand-up comic So congratulations to you I thought about maybe doing it But doing it from a character Point of view So doing like a rehearsed Monologue in character So it's sort of a halfway house
Starting point is 00:36:07 Between stand-up What if he is a character right now And this whole time he's been lying He's actually from Lewisham My accent is fake It would be great I would love it change my accent.
Starting point is 00:36:22 You added the D in your name, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, just for you. Just for you. Do you have, do you have like a sly beef with Gino DeCampo? I don't know what it is a slight bee? Oh, slight beef. It means, um, do you have...
Starting point is 00:36:35 Like, if you saw Gino, would you fight him? Yeah. Do you have a... The top spot? What's another word for that? I can't translate it. Argument. Do you...
Starting point is 00:36:42 Trouble. Ah. It's a joke. I'm sure you don't have trouble with him. No, no, no, no, no. I don't know him. I don't know him. I would love to...
Starting point is 00:36:49 Basically, with your accent. you're treading on his toes like he's loved the UK love him because of his accent and he has a very funny one line and he plays on language that's why we love him really yeah so that's what I'm saying do you have any beef with him if I was him I'd be worried about you
Starting point is 00:37:04 I don't think I'm a problem yeah no you never know you could take it you've got Eddie Isard who reviewed your show and so yeah you are definitely yeah yeah we had yeah it's been a great fringe festival because we we create
Starting point is 00:37:20 the general idea was to do comedy some frontier, which means using comedy to destroy the frontier and talk to a lot of people. So basically in Edinburgh, and then the following year we were in Berlin and Moscow to celebrate 70 years of peace in Europe. And there was a huge show with comedians from Germany, from Russia, from Italy, France, America.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And so it was brilliant. And we walked together on this idea. And now after three years, you see how much frontiers and borders are important. You know, it seems that everything is about immigrants and immigration. So I think comedy can be a very, very good tool to talk to other people and mix our culture and point of views. And, yeah, that's all off together. So all the best of luck for Edinburgh. It's called Comfort Zone.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So if you are down that way, if you're heading to the festival, go and check it out. It's going to be at the other belly George Square. Yeah. All the best of luck. Thank you so much for coming on the show. We're doing songs today, which is like the opening songs of movies. So this is from Deadpool, because that was one of the best opening movie sequences that I saw last year. So this is Angelow the Morning.
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Starting point is 00:39:19 Fubbar Radio. This is Fubbar. Radio. You're listening to Back Row and Chill with Johanna James. We've got another competition for you guys. It's to do with Kong Skull Island. So if you would like to be in with the chance of winning this bundle of goodies
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Starting point is 00:40:10 The most complained about films from the British board of film of classifications. That's the BF, no, the BBFC. They're basically the people that tell. that decide if films are going to be like a 12 or a 15 or an 18, they've come up with the compiled a list of the most complained about films of last year. And Deadpool was at the top of that list. So nice little tie in there with the Deadpool intro. It was the most complained about film.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Seconded with Suicide Squad and then Miss Peregrine, Miss Perrigan, Miss Perrigan, Home for Children. Did you see, you saw Deadpool, right? Yeah. Why was it complained about? It was like the British Board of Film, really, I don't know, people just got on their high horse. Ah, shut up. They wrote, I don't feel a bit like that. Well, that's how we get it all the time, though.
Starting point is 00:41:03 We make Facebook videos as a living. And we, no matter what you do, I received death threats. Because last week, me and Johanna made a video taking the Mick out of yoga. So we had chicken nugget yoga because there's been a couple fads, like beer yoga and stuff like that. We got 18 million views on the video. and we also received death threats from vegans who said that we were advocates of murder for poor chicks being made into chicken nuggets
Starting point is 00:41:28 which is not true we're not advocates of murder we're advocates of chicken nuggets well I am you're not yeah I'm a recent veggie recent veggie yeah you're a recent veggie but even so as a recent veggie I can't condemn you only really have a right to condemn your own eating not anybody else's
Starting point is 00:41:43 really it's free country it's free country so yeah we get people really on the whole people saying that we were disrespecting yoga. Oh my God. And I was like, we're not. You can't please anyone. We're just taking, we're having a laugh.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Don't take it so, to take it so personally. Yeah, so Deadpool, don't worry, guys, it's fine. Yeah, it's all right. I don't think Deadpool are worrying. They're like pulling in absolutely millions. Yeah, cake. So don't worry about that. But yeah, it received like the most complaints from last year
Starting point is 00:42:09 about it being like overly violent for its... But it was one of the most popular superhero movie films of last year. Ever, and now all everyone's trying to emulate it and stuff. Yeah, and they're all putting comedy into their... They reshot suicide squad to make it. funnier just to match. Yeah. And it still ended up number two. Did it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:25 I'm like most complained. And I can actually see a little bit with the Miss Peregrine's home for peculiar children. You have trouble saying that title, don't you? I was hoping that you wouldn't pick up on that, but don't maybe say it again. Say one more time. Go on please. Miss Peregrins. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Home for peculiar children, I'm going to like labour. It actually was quite scary. Like, I'm not even a child. They got complaints over that. Yeah, because it was too scary. Did you even see it? No, but I saw the adverts. It seemed like an odd ball film.
Starting point is 00:42:53 It was an oddball film, but there was like, there's a bit where, like, this monsters, basically, they take people's eyes out. They kill you and then they take your eyeballs out. So people are complaining that the horror... It was actually quite, it was. I mean, I was scared, and it was gruesome and it was like a 12. Isn't that what films are about? What are scaring children?
Starting point is 00:43:10 But no. I would have had definite... Garnering a reaction. That's what it's about... Or would you like a boring film where actually all that happened was their hair got cut a little bit too short? That's terrifying. For most women, that is the worst nightmare that could ever happen.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I should have thought of a different example. But it's true, waking up and all your hair's gone, oh, like, that's horrible. Try being a man with a receding hairline. Yeah, I guess you can feel that a little bit, don't you? Was that aimed at me? No. Baby, I love your hairline.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I'm currently checking to see if my hairline's still there. It's sexy. There has been massive hollabloo going on because the BBC have released the pay, well, what people get paid at the BBC. So everyone can see everyone else's salaries. And people noticed pretty much straight away that there was a massive pay gap
Starting point is 00:43:57 between men and women in the same role at the BBC. So there was a 200,000 pound pay gap between Fiona Bruce and Hugh Edwards, and they both present the same show. Why is that? He gets 200 grand more because he has a penis. But no other reason. Is he more entertaining, though?
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's not based on that. honest, is he more of the draw? I would say, well, they produce it side-by-hand. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, if you look at a football team, people, okay, we're not talking about sex here, but we're saying that people are bigger draws. So if you look at UFC fighters, it doesn't matter whether you're a boy or a girl. Rhonda Rousey was pulling in more money than any other UFC fighter, boy or girl, because she was a star attraction.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Is this dude that's getting paid more, got more pulling power? If so, then rightfully so, he should be getting paid more. If they are equals, then that is an absolute joke. Well, most of them, these pay gaps are between what would be deemed as equal. So they have equal amount of like CV history jobs. They're equally qualified. They're equally presenting the same show. It's just that the pay packets have been hidden before now.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Now they've been made to be open and people are realising how much they're being underpaid. And it is literally down to generals. It's down to sex. It's not down to. So that's where people are like, And it's a bit awkward now. Yeah, well, obviously all the big people at the BBC have got all their pay slips public. Chris Evans, ranked in $2.2 million for presenting radio last year.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Oh, Christ. He's not even that good, is he? 2.2 million. I know. Who listens to radio anymore? Any joking. Gotcha. So, yeah, I read that.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I was like, guys, so let's talk Chris Evans. Maybe I can get $2.2 million? No, maybe not. I don't. How would you imagine? How would you feel if your pay slip, was made public. Would you mind?
Starting point is 00:45:51 It depends if I was in control of my pay slip going public. If it was against my will, then I would mind. If someone asked me, then I wouldn't mind. So say you got a job at the BBC and they were like, oh, by the way, all pay slips
Starting point is 00:46:01 are now public knowledge. Would you mind? I'm quite a transparent person. I don't mind people knowing stuff or divulging information that might be sensitive. I mean, I feel like people that are dodgy about stuff like that
Starting point is 00:46:11 are hiding something else. Like, I don't know. I don't know. For me, it's not really necessarily an issue. Well, people are now basically calling into the radio now. They're calling into Chris Evans or all the big ones and they're going, are you embarrassed to take
Starting point is 00:46:25 that paycheck? Like, or are you... Why? Why are you embarrassed? I don't know. This is what the questions, though. They were saying, can you justify what you do for that amount of money? Because like they said, you went, what, for the radio? It's not even that good. I hate... I hate people like that. All they do is find something to bitch about and they moan and they cry.
Starting point is 00:46:42 But at the same time, it's got nothing to do with them how much Chris Evans is getting paid. If his boss feel like they have the budget to pay him that much money, pay him that much money. I don't see what the issue is with that. I mean, okay, to justify it is a different scenario. I mean, what, are these guys, Chris Evans' parents? I don't know. Do they pay his bills? I don't know, but...
Starting point is 00:47:03 Jealousy, that sounds like. I do think that it's, I don't think people should, like, vigilante and mob people for what they get paid, like, well done to them. Exactly, it's nothing to do with them. But I do think that it is a bit of a piss take. If you work on a show, equally as hard as someone else and you've got equal credentials, equal everything, but your pay is not equal. I would be annoyed.
Starting point is 00:47:24 But both way around, if it was the other way around and if Fiona Bruce was getting 200 grand more than Hugh Edwards, I'd still be on Hugh Edwards' team. I'd be like, dude, you're doing the same job, get the same pay, the same thing. Unless she's pulling in more numbers. Yeah, but I think them both equally not. But yeah. So BBC's in a bit of a pickle.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Would you be annoyed? So me and you were working on the same project. Would you be annoyed if I was getting, paid more than you? Depends on the project and not necessarily. If it was something to do with particularly like, if it was a numbers thing, you should get paid more because you have more followers than me.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So absolutely fine with that. But if it was nothing to do with numbers, say it was an acting job and it didn't, nothing to do with social media mattered, it was me and you acting in something and we were going to be on EastEnders. I would expect both of us to have the same fee. Interesting. What about you? Would you be like, no?
Starting point is 00:48:12 Oh no! What? This is it going to get personal? No, of course not. There's been instances where I've been paid more than you and there's been instances where you've been paid more than me. So I think it balances out. I think it's all completely dependent on each particular case study. Each piece of project.
Starting point is 00:48:31 But no, I wouldn't be a fan if you're getting paid more than me. Okay, and on that note, we're going to go to all music break. I'm going to get our third guest in. This is background chill. Wait, what do you mean? on Fuba Radio. And Jube Tube Tube. There we go. Was that better?
Starting point is 00:48:54 That was kind of embarrassing if anything. Just tone it down a bit, baby. Okay, just stay chill, stay chill, stay chill. We have had an email in from Georgia. Say what? She says, hey guys, did you used to watch Get Your Own Back? You should gunge each other. Yes, I did used to watch it, and sometimes I do gunge Jehanna.
Starting point is 00:49:15 That was inappropriate. Sorry. Sorry. She gunges me too, so... That's fine. I used to watch Get Your Own Back. Of course, like, what 90s kid didn't. I actually applied to go on, Get Your Own Back, with my dad.
Starting point is 00:49:28 And my reason was, is because he kept calling me Pinhead, because I had a small head. And it really pissed me off. And I was like, I'm going to get you on get your own back there and I'm going to gun you. Was that really your voice? I wouldn't have called you Pinhead. Yeah, if you guys, if any of you guys want to ask us anything, just get in contact with the studio. Chill at Fulbaradio.com comes directly. I've got a question.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, go on. Johanna, what do you love about your boyfriend? Oh my God, dig in, digger, digging. I love your hairline. Genuinely. Move on. Okay, we're talking about 90s TV shows. It's weird that Georgia mentioned that
Starting point is 00:50:09 because that's what I've prepared today. It is a 90s kids TV intro quiz. Okay. We want to see how many of these you can get from the 19. Come on, this is me you're talking to, Famerlam. All right, let's go. Are we ready? Shout out when you think you know.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Right. Oh, this is the intro, I'm assuming. I don't know, but this is a banging tune. Hey, hey. So this, we've got 15 90s shows. What is number one? Thomas the tank engine, obviously. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:41 But, but, but, man like Thomas. Well done. Mad like Thomas. With the fat controller That can't be called the fat controller anymore Can't he? PC Oh my
Starting point is 00:50:51 So what they call him The controller The grand controller Oh for Christ's sake I know Number two Recess? No
Starting point is 00:51:01 Raven, no You said that you love This show SMTV live Yeah Oh my god How could I forget that? I know
Starting point is 00:51:13 What's around with you Wonky donkey Number three Sabrina the teenage witch Raven. Round the twist. Round the twist. Damn it! Number four. I want to be the very best. Oh, come on. The very best. Ow! Best song of all time. Yeah, she is really good. Play this at my funeral. Okay. Number five. Do you guess what it is? Was I even alive at this point? It was Funhouse. Oh my, come on. Who watched Fun House? Come on. Give me a chance.
Starting point is 00:52:15 This next one of my favorite shows when I was really old. The Magic Round the Bell? It's a little car. Oh, I love from. Did you hear that tintin? Number seven. The savage electric guitar. Thundercats.
Starting point is 00:52:47 There's a recent reboot. There's five of them. I have no idea. Power Rangers. Oh my God. Yes! I used to terrify me as well. I wasn't allowed to watch it and I used to sneakily watch behind my mom's back.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Oh, wow. You're a rebel. I know. Rebel. Number nine. Love that show. It was amazing. He used to make the most shit.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Bing's really. Bar. Babba. The elephant, Baba! What the hell? What the hell is Baba the elephant? Google it, babe, Google it. Come on.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Number 11. Powerful. Or whatever it. Very close. What was it? Power Puff Girl. Power Puff Girl! Power!
Starting point is 00:54:15 I was reading off of her sheet. I saw the word power. I said powerful gifts wedding work. Number 12. Land before time. No, bear in the big... No, it was Rupert the Bear. Shit.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Number 13. I don't know, but that trumpet in the background is kind of live. This is Spider in the Bath. What the fuck are these programs, Johanna? How the hell are you? You don't remember a spider in the bath! How the hell am I supposed to know that? I'm just old.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Number 14. It's Keenan Kelcule. Oh my God, I should have known that. Number 15. If you get this right, you get sex tonight. That was some... Okay, well done. but you nearly got nearly all of them.
Starting point is 00:55:40 That was good. I know, but some of those programs were absolutely ridiculous. I didn't make the quiz. I just got it off YouTube. Was it Bar Bar-Bar the Elephant? Yeah, but Bar! Or is it Bar-Barr? Which way do you say it?
Starting point is 00:55:52 I don't know. Anyway, our third and final guest has arrived in the studio, so we're going to go and grab her and get her in. I'm going to go for the opening, another good opening credit for CSI, New York. Babo O'Reilly by the Who. saw this live last year in a festival. It was pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:10 We'll be back momentarily. That song literally climaxes. So happy it's finished. Is that what you say every time? She does say that, yeah. A huge welcome to Lady Rizzo, who is our third and final guest today on the show. Hi.
Starting point is 00:56:30 A huge one. Who, who, who, who, who, Rizzo in the house. I love the name. Do you like that intro? Yeah. Where's the name from? Lady Rizzo? I married a beautiful
Starting point is 00:56:41 Colombian Italian man and I kept his name but I didn't keep him. Oh, well. Someone's saying that's a fair exchange. Oh, an amazing story. And your show, Red, White and Indigo is going to be at Sophie Theatre. Yes. It is already.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Well, what was it about and how did that come around? Oh, it's so my work, I usually I usually have to make shows about what I'm obsessed with at the time. And usually it's something quite personal. Like I made a show about my divorce. So I made a show about having a baby and being like a nightlife creature of the night and then having to wake up at 6 a.m., you know.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And then this one, for the first time, what I'm obsessed with is what my whole country is obsessed with, which is our nation and how it's going to help. Because it says to hear that it's the witnessing the death of the US as we know it. Yeah. That's a strong sentence. Well, it feels like it. Yeah. Like when you have a clown in charge. It doesn't it feel the best.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Oh my God. I was going to ask him what sense, but then you just round that. Yeah. I mean, because I remember back when there was like rumors of like Trump running for president, and we all laughed. Oh, everyone laughed. It was like this hilarious. It was like Brexit.
Starting point is 00:57:58 We laughed at the idea of Brexit too. Oh, we're like, oh, my God. We're not going to leave the year. And then you just kind of you wake up on the day of the, of the vote. and you go, oh shit, we shouldn't have worked. Yeah, no, it seems impossible. Like, and I still wake up and I'm like, it was a dream.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, it's a nightmare. Clicking my heels together. Yeah, it is a nightmare. But what is actually the positive side of it has woken some people up to political action? It's like a slingshot, you get pulled back and then just go forward. And I would, I still wish it wouldn't have happened. For sure.
Starting point is 00:58:33 there's a lot of things that are irrevocable like, you know, withdrawal from the Paris climate agreement. Yeah. The environment, and especially I have a baby, you know, and like that's one of the things where you look at your child's face and you're like, wow, the decisions we're making today
Starting point is 00:58:49 could very well ruin your life. Yeah. It's scary. Put everything in perspective, isn't it, a little one. Well, think about it. Now, look, Kanye West is like I'm running for president in 2020, the rock. Dwayne Johnson, the Rock.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I don't know how much truth is based in that, but Trump winning. Caitlin Jenner apparently is also not. Oh, my God. It's going to be a reality TV show. It's a popularity contest. Who's got the most followers? Who gets the most retweets? And I say this in my show is that one of the reasons I think that we are where
Starting point is 00:59:15 we are right now is twofold. Lack of education in America, obviously like schooling, because people that voted for Trump can't actually discern between like reality and fake news.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And then also So spin, he's just a snake oil salesman. And then the other thing is our obsession with fame has gotten to an extreme place. It's because you don't even, you have to, you have no talent. You can be famous. And then you're still, it's like we've gotten to this place where we used to make fun of people that were famous that had no talent. And now they're Kim Carcadashian.
Starting point is 00:59:52 We idolize them. We still idolized. Oh, I had an amazing lady come on the show and she did a show all about gas lighting, which is a technical time. I didn't know what it was about. And it's about the tricks that Like the manipulation techniques That it's called gaslighting
Starting point is 01:00:07 Where you can manipulate people And they said that the people had studied Trump And these doctors And these psychologists And they said that he uses the exact same techniques On the media and on everyone As a domestic violence husband does Techniques that spin the fault of themselves
Starting point is 01:00:26 And the other person Make them by the end of the conversation Feel like it's their fault So they would say oh you like to grab people by the pussy and he's like yeah but you've done bad things too and like would push people's own faults back on the other it's like a
Starting point is 01:00:37 it's quite clever though it's a it's a mental I don't think he's actually clever though I think he's stupid someone in that position must have some some social awareness business awareness like the guy's not full what I think he is is like
Starting point is 01:00:51 narcissist to the extreme level it's so strong that he somehow has a way he needs attention so badly that he's like zeroed in on how to get response. And that's kind of, I guess, where his brilliance lies, is that he needs it so badly because he hates himself, obviously. I mean, you can't look at his actions deep down.
Starting point is 01:01:15 The man hates himself. His daddy didn't like him or something. I only gave him a small loan of a million dollars. Yeah, I know. It's got hurt. But yeah, I think he uses narcissism to the two brilliant means. But I think that's interesting, though, Because that also, like, says something about what's going on in America.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I mean, like, you're saying, you call it the death of America, right? Yeah. But you could, if he is so popular, there is something about Trump that people in America actually agree with. Same with us. We were like, what, Brexit? That's ridiculous. But there's a lot of people in the UK that are like, yo, we don't like what's going on. And we like what this particular thing stands for.
Starting point is 01:01:56 So, I don't know. You may say he hates himself. I'd say he's just been given so much love. As well as everyone gets hate, he's used to that. He is now loved. People will fight for him. If you say something bad about him at one of his rallies, you get punched in the face.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I know. Actually, it's strange because sometimes I have a death wish for him. But I, it's just secret dreams at night. But then I think that would be the worst thing because that would enliven his face so much. He becomes a martyr. Yeah, yeah, yeah. come Trump Jesus.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It would be just one word, Trump Jesus. Trump Jesus. Trump Jizzles. Trump Jizzles. With a big comb over, over across. So in your show, read White Indigo, I'm getting why that's called that now.
Starting point is 01:02:41 He says America is a very bad boyfriend, but why do I still love him? Yeah. Well, and how can I fight for something if I don't love it, you know? And where is patriotism in my heart? Because I was born to hippies that were not, identifying with other Americans.
Starting point is 01:02:59 They were wanting to make their own land off the grid. And I, so where does, what do I love about my country? Because, you know, I'll just namaste, namaste in America and not go to Canada, you know. Like, I'm not going to run to Canada. And I, so, yeah, I'm trying to figure out how to get into what I love about it, but then also to be critical of the things I need to be critical of. But what you said about, you were saying about what the people that voted for him, the Pollyanna side of me, like the complete optimist,
Starting point is 01:03:38 thinks that perhaps this is the last, like if America's a big pimple or a boil, this is the last head of like the latent misogyny and racism that's been underneath. Forever, yeah. Forever. And throughout the whole 90s, you know, with political correctness, we were attacking language and I think that that was a mistake like focusing on language
Starting point is 01:03:59 instead of a system overhaul of the ideals and stuff like that yeah of the ideology behind racism and like and so then people still had racism and misogyny inside and then they were like but you can't say that word or that way that say things that way and so then
Starting point is 01:04:16 it's still there like bubbling up and hopefully this is like it's coming to a head and we're going to squeeze that zip. Yeah that's a really good analogy get all the shit out. Yeah, I just want to pop it. You just want to pop from the head. Are you guys in a relationship, the two of you?
Starting point is 01:04:31 No, when you walked in and we were kissing, we slipped. That was our first kiss. What made you ask, Mayor? You're talking about, like, popping pimples. He looked at us like, wait, hang on the sex. I do. I pop his pimples. Because my partner loves to pop my zits, and I don't do it to him, but I'm just wondering if one of you likes to do that.
Starting point is 01:04:50 We clean each other's ears. but like there's this whole side of like I don't know grooming ape grooming like we definitely like a bit of ape and ape roleplay and cleaning and stuff ooh so back back to you yeah quite literally who's interviewing who here
Starting point is 01:05:11 I can only guess looking at you who's playing the ape we both are oh wow she's vanilla ape I'm more of the classic ape And we went to the planet of the apes, the recent movie, and there was an ape called Winter, which was really blonde. And another one, we were like, it's us!
Starting point is 01:05:28 Oh, my God! We really are talking about your fetish. That's so cool. Great. Thank you for wanting me know about that. It's all right. Try this out. Anyone else who are in?
Starting point is 01:05:36 Has anyone else any weird fetishes that they'd like to let the tweet us, that food bar radio? Anybody else? Does chimpanzee, you know, an hour? That's actually called, you are a furry. It's a furry. If you enjoy pretending to be an animal. role play. Oh, I thought a furry
Starting point is 01:05:53 was someone who liked having sex with stuffed animals. No, a furry is if you dress up. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's both. Do you know about those people? No. I know. There's a whole business that sows in satin vaginas. Oh, wow. For research purposes, do they have a website or Facebook page? This is new information. Yeah. I don't know. It's like maybe something left over from childhood. That's quite fucked up though.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Like shagging your teddy bear. Yeah. And it's got like a nice feeling vagina. Yeah. Yeah, but easily cleanable, hopefully. Oh, wow, nice. I used to hide sweets and chocolate inside my teddy bear. There was a little hole in the stuffing in the back, and I used to go to school journey,
Starting point is 01:06:31 and they would do room searches to check that you didn't have, like, contraband in there. Did you grow up in prison? Yeah. What happened? Did you have a warden in your home? No, in school holidays, like school journey and stuff. You weren't allowed sweets? No, no, you weren't allowed sweets in the dorm,
Starting point is 01:06:46 so they would check for contraband. Everyone had to, like, put the... You're crafty. Yeah, so I had like kick cats and jelly babies, all stuff done in mind. You're a woman. You're a woman after my own heart. I totally have, yeah, I have criminal tendencies, really. That's what I guess.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You're not the only one. I try to just funnel into the arts. But I love, I love like a con movie because I just feel like I have the mind of like that time. Like, even if I got conned very badly, I think there's still a part of me that would be like, good on. Yeah. No, there's a, I think as an actress perform, I think I mentioned it, other day I was like either I can be an actor or I could be probably a very good connoist. Oh my god, you'd be great because you're sexy and pretty and so you could like do that whole
Starting point is 01:07:29 like side of like seduction and then boom, there's your money gone from your account. You're seeing a whole other side. I'm just waiting until me and her get married one day and then she takes everything from me, including my sat and pussy in my teddy bear. Which is my most prize possession. I'm taking the teddy. Don't take my sat and pussy. So your show...
Starting point is 01:07:51 We're making a show right now. So red, white, and indigo. It's going to be at the Soho Theater from when until whence? I've started already. Okay. Yeah, so I'm finishing up my first weekend. I'm here for three weeks total, so it's a bit of time.
Starting point is 01:08:09 They like me here. What can I say? We do like America. It's true, yeah, yeah, yeah. You like brassy, bold, you know, funny Americans that can sing. Just America in general, we know. all of your pop culture references. We've lived off of your TV.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I know, we know none of yours. I know. It's actually quite annoying. It is. We feel like the unloved stepbrother. But people are starting to watch like BBC online. You know, they watch... Downton Abbey.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And Dr. And Dr. Who are watching Doctor Who. Yeah. And people like us are bridging the gap too. We make viral videos on the internet. Do you? Yeah, our biggest audiences are in America. More than the sex ape tapes? Or...
Starting point is 01:08:44 We're waiting until like the followers go down. When the career's over, we can discuss. I feel like, because there's a lot. a whole genre that you have in that day. You do not what? But yeah, we make videos online, but when people say what do you do, I make videos online, they're like, what? Yeah, not those videos. Fun, comedy videos.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Yeah, comedy videos. But we do have, actually America's my biggest audience. Yeah, same head. Wow, that's so fantastic. Well, I'll watch your videos too. Please do. Thank you. But yeah, I'm as much as a singer as a comedian. Yeah, I saw that you're a bit of a, you do what we call it Jack a Ball, Trades. You can do a bit of a bit of singing, which is great.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I can't do my taxes. Oh no, we're trying to calculate that But with being a bit of everything So in America you're really praised If you can like write direct and star in your own movie It's like wow amazing achievement If you do that in England it's a little bit like Oh you're up your own bum on you
Starting point is 01:09:37 Or you couldn't get anyone to collaborate with it It's seen as quite like a negative thing Really? Trying to pioneer like But it depends if you pull it off then it doesn't matter How you went about it But yeah there is a bit of a stigma attached to like trying to do everything yourself
Starting point is 01:09:51 where it's actually yeah because Noel Clark who co-hosts this show with me he he writes and produces and makes all his own films and he gets a massive amount of slack and people trolling him they say you're
Starting point is 01:10:06 it's really it's an arrogant project it's a it's like a self indulgent project or whatever that's the British people's greatest fear though is that you seem arrogant but then in a way sometimes it bites you back because then you get humble brags all the time here. What's that?
Starting point is 01:10:24 Humble brags? Oh, it's when... People that subtly talk about their achievements trying to sane them not caring, but really they want you to love them. That's like me. Did I mention I've got 200,000 likes in the USA? I missed. But the thing is that America people are just like,
Starting point is 01:10:41 the bold-faced brags are sometimes more like palatable. Because it takes a lot less time and they're just being honest, you know, you know, and they're not like undercutting all of their achievements. So, but yeah, it's just one of those things you notice here. I love, I love being in the UK, though. And I love performing to British audiences. They're so, they really listen. And I love that the theater is respected as something that not just theater people enjoy,
Starting point is 01:11:08 like a dentist will be in the audience, you know. Sometimes it feels like in America, artists are just trading around $20 bills and seeing each other's work, and the rest of the people are just watching the television. Oh, yeah, there's more, I think there's more people getting involved in theatre slowly, like, especially like we've got Harry Potter has come to the West End, and there's slightly younger people are starting to get involved in the culture of it, and they do like, if you're under 26 in England, you can get, like, reduced or free theatre tickets. They're trying to, yeah, trying to get people involved, especially like the national and stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Oh, that's great. I disagree. I don't think theatre's really got that young audience in the UK anymore. Because, but, babe, you're not a theatre goer. and you don't go, but they're... But I'm very in tune with what... But there are a lot of people. A younger demographic.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah, I understand that and they open it up. But it's really not something as like massively cultural amongst young people. You think it's fading. Like, if you talk about Love Island or one of these like weird sexual TV shows that's just got no like, there's no imagery, there's not no symbolism,
Starting point is 01:12:09 there's no like poignant crescendo at the end of the piece, it's literally just sex on TV and that's all they want to know about if they're young. Do you know what I mean? The majority of us. Or like the only way is Essex. Everyone wants to like emulate what they see on TV, which is like fake tan, hair, being sexy,
Starting point is 01:12:24 not necessarily being responsible and stuff like that. I'm going to look into the figures because I think it's something that I think that there has been a shift. In the last like 30 years, there has been a shift of the only the rich and elite going to the theatre. And I think that there has been more people going. Obviously there is not the platform
Starting point is 01:12:41 to go onto your Facebook and be like, OMG, just saw this at the national. Like hashtag theatre. it's people who are not watching You still get a lot more kudos though If you're in a theatre and stuff It's like oh wow It's more high brow
Starting point is 01:12:54 It's more finesse, it's high end As opposed to what we make on the internet Real acting Yeah you've actually got a real talent Which is incredible So yeah I fully respect Anyone who's got the balls Especially your one woman show
Starting point is 01:13:06 So absolutely amazing Soho Theatre if you want to check her out It's Lady Rizzo Are you guys gonna come Yes Yeah Red White and In In Innu Are you gonna sing a rendition
Starting point is 01:13:14 A Saturn Pussy for us Yeah Sad and Pussy Someone get us some tickets, please. Bring a dream. Just for a, we'll be there like, yeah. I'm going to be there. We'll dress as gorillas.
Starting point is 01:13:25 We'll be the gorillas in the audience. We'll be the gorillas in the back. Raven, it'll be amazing. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me, you guys. I'm really glad I got to see you kiss when I walked in. I thought it was like a secret romance, though, and I was like, oh, excuse me. Don't tell you.
Starting point is 01:13:42 We're like, no, don't worry. We are well all over the internet being boyfriend and girlfriend. Can't get away from you. She's still embarrassed of me. Right, we're going to have a bit of... This is the intro. I'm doing intro, opening credit titles, songs today. All the songs are themed to music or movies.
Starting point is 01:13:59 And this is the opening to Brotherhood. This is fecky on back road. Chill. Yeah, and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. We are coming into Land with the show, but it is time to do Film reviews. Lucy Patterson is back in the studio. Time for me. Hi. Welcome back. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:14:22 You were missing in action last week because you broke your foot. I broke my toes like an idiot. Yeah. How? I walked into the end of my bed. That's it. That's all I did. Quite literally. Yeah. Well apparently you break your baby toe at least like five or six times in your life.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Do you know this is the first time I've actually broken any bones whatsoever. Was it really painful? And it happened to be my toes. And I've been hobbling for like two weeks. Just so embarrassing. Was it really painful? Yeah, it's horrible. I didn't even realise really at first. I sort of went to work and went, oh, they're going a bit black.
Starting point is 01:14:49 She'd probably go home. And then I was like, shit, they're broke. Whoops. Brite me feet. Well, I'm glad you back. Thanks. Good to be back. It's been quite a big week of things to see.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I'm going to let you start because you saw the big daddy of the moment. I did. I did, which came out today. I don't really know what I was expecting from it. I think I sort of was expecting a bit of saving Private Ryan that sort of huge product. and it's nothing like that and not to its detriment at all
Starting point is 01:15:22 it is one of the best war films I have ever seen. Well, better than Gladiator? Absolutely. Better than Braveheart? Don't question men. Better than Troy? Don't question. Troy is a piece of shit. I hate that film. The blasphemy! I can't understand the film! Sorry, sorry. But yeah, it is absolutely
Starting point is 01:15:40 amazing. There's little to no dialogue in it but that doesn't matter either. It's all this set to this huge swelling score from Hans Zimmer obviously you know his scores are always absolutely perfect but it drives home the tension and you know the dread and
Starting point is 01:15:56 what they must have been feeling because it's all about the evacuations after the deed day landers and things like that it's not like saving private right which I mentioned before at the beginning of that obviously you see where they are landing on the beaches and that is horrific isn't it really that stays with you that open and see but the rest of that film has got this
Starting point is 01:16:13 Hollywood glitz to it it really has but this hasn't I'm pretty sure it was shot on film because it's got that grainy type of old feel, you know. Old movie classic. Absolutely. And I think that makes it even more grim.
Starting point is 01:16:28 You know, I just felt absolute devastation when I came out of there and not because it was shit, because it was so good that I felt humbled and grateful. I love him like that. It's just, I mean, obviously,
Starting point is 01:16:39 I live in movies. That's all I ever do. If you watch so many, you're going to end up being dramatic and as emotional as I am, you know. So I was crying my eyes out, couldn't get up. Lee, who I went to see it, we've actually got up and left me. I was like, don't leave me.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I'm still crying. And how was Stiles? How was Harry Stiles? Do you know what? He's a fantastic actor. Really? You know, you get that a lot where you have, obviously he's an absolute superstar.
Starting point is 01:17:04 And you get them doing these cameos and things. And all you can think about is who they actually are. You know, you don't watch them as a character. You watch them as that person. Completely lost. Completely lost in that film. I didn't think, oh, that's Harry Stiles. When I first story I got a little bit.
Starting point is 01:17:16 excited, obviously, but he's brilliant. He doesn't have that much of a big part or much dialogue, but then neither does anybody, you know. And it's this beautiful ensemble piece and, you know, if it doesn't get every Oscar in the land, I'll be very, very shocked. It is that good. I can't even get my words out properly. I'm going to write a massive review about this one and shove it down. Everyone's throat to make him go and see it. Yeah, I definitely want to see it. Everyone needs to. Do me
Starting point is 01:17:42 a favour and don't go and see it in IMAX. Why? Because I think that will take away from the story and how devastating it was and how real it is. Because if you're watching it in IMAX, you're just waiting for things to fly your face and, you know, you're getting lost in the action of it. But what you need to try and do is get lost in the emotion of it and how these boys were feeling. You know, the main sort of young soldier in it. Fionne Whitehead, I think his name is.
Starting point is 01:18:05 He's only ever been in one sort of TV miniseries. He's brilliant. To be able to act that well and get across such emotions and such danger, you know, and really bring the situation home to everybody is hard without words. But they all did it perfectly. I had a friend who we interviewed his grandfather because he was at Dunkirk.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Oh, wow. And he ran away to the army, he pretended he was 18, he was 17. So he wasn't even supposed to be there. There was a lot of that, wasn't there? Like madness. And there was something like seven massive ships, seven warships.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Yeah. And one returned. And he was on that one. Wow. The one returning one. And it was crazy because I was like, whoa, if he hadn't have been there that day and on that particular ship, then...
Starting point is 01:18:51 Well, so everyone that went to Dunkirk, only a tiny amount got back. The boats that came back got torpedoed, you know. And it ended up being... There was a callout to anybody who had a boat, anybody, and they called him the little ship. Just go get at the... And all these people from, you know, around England
Starting point is 01:19:07 came across the channel on their little boats and picked up the soldiers. It's just... I need to see it now. I just got chills down the back of my neck just from hearing you talk. You know, it is relentless, absolutely relentless. You know, you feel like you haven't got a break
Starting point is 01:19:20 and I'd remind myself to breathe, you know, and there's this little tiny reprieve when you see the little ships coming in, you know, and then it just goes to shit again, but it's, it's, I can't think of a word, perfect isn't enough of a word. What's crazy is that it was like less than 100 years ago. This is the thing.
Starting point is 01:19:36 This was happening on our doorstep. We're related to people, you know, that this happened to. I mean, a lot of them probably aren't alive anymore, you know, but be grateful for the life we have now because of the things they did, you know. And there was a little tiny bit of dialogue about them being afraid to come home because they felt like cowards because they wasn't fighting. They were evacuated.
Starting point is 01:19:58 You know, they didn't come home as what they thought were war heroes. But, you know, the reaction they actually got and that big speech that, oh my God, Churchill gave, you know, that we're fighting on the beaches, things like that. That plays a big part in it, and it's, I could cry now, it's just so... I think you forget what. Well, I've definitely forget that the people who fought in the war weren't soldiers. No.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Because I remember I got reminded, I went to pick up a package at the Kingston Post Office. And all on their wall, they've got a plaque and a photo. And it was all the guys who worked at the Kingston Post Office. National service, they got called up. It was them in their army gear and whatever. And a lot of them died. And there was a plaque which was saying, for those of you left behind now, make sure you live for what they lost and whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Absolutely. It was like make sure that their death was worth a shit. That's what I mean, but when I said I felt humbled when I come out because I just thought, God, I'm so grateful for these people. They should show it in schools, maybe. They absolutely should, you know. It's just mind-blowing. It's an absolute masterpiece, perfect.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Have you seen anything that you'd like to review this week that was good or bad or shit or not good? Cinema, Netflix, anything that you've been watching that you've been loving or hate? What was that film we watch? That I couldn't behave in. Yeah, if Jube's not into the film, he's... Like, nah. Sitting on the floor, his ADHD kicks in and he's off.
Starting point is 01:21:17 What, the Limehouse Golam? That's the one. Well, last night. Yeah. Yeah. I quite enjoyed that. You did well, you did well, but. It felt a bit like, for me, it was like a TV murder show in a film.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah, I think, I thought, why is this not a massive Christmas ITV special? Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did feel that. The Limehouse Gowlom, anyone's like, what is that? I was calling it the Limehouse Gollom. I was as well. Yeah, until I said, gole of a movie. Oh shit.
Starting point is 01:21:43 We all went to the screening last night and there was a special preview screening and Bill Nyee was there. That was amazing for me. He's got so much presents. He's got so much presents. Before he'd even opened his mouth on the mic, you could hear people chattering and laughing.
Starting point is 01:21:59 So he'd just be like, and people were like, ha ha, ha, good old Bill. So, yeah, Bill had, he did his first ever lie and the guy that laughed massively was this. It was me because he called me by surprise. I wasn't expecting it.
Starting point is 01:22:11 fan girling all over Bill May but the movie yeah it was good it is set in and I haven't googled to see whether it's a true story or completely fabricated oh I have oh okay is it no the characters in it some of them are real life people but the actual story isn't well like Carl Marx
Starting point is 01:22:31 obviously well I don't know he might be make believe but yeah there's real and Dan Lino he's a real person I haven't gone that much into it but he was a music called performer and things like that. I don't know why the writer I think wrote it in the 90s he made up all of that. Obviously it's very
Starting point is 01:22:49 Jack the Ripper is. Yeah it's a bit like a Jack the Ripper. It's set in 1880 and it's about this policeman who is really gruesome Jack the Ripper-style murders in Limehouse in East London. It was weird that after you watched that I then went to Shortwich for a drink and I was walking around Shortish on my own I've just seen a movie about
Starting point is 01:23:07 gutted and but it was good but it was good whoever that action, I don't know who she is. Olivia Cook. She's amazing. She's in Bates Motel. Have you ever watched Bates Motel? Amazing series.
Starting point is 01:23:19 It's finished now. Massive girl crush on her. Isn't she beautiful? Isn't she got the most symmetrical face you've ever seen? I was watching her in the band, I was like, I could watch her and she's absolutely beautiful, fantastic. And she can act, she can fucking out. And she's northern.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Is she? Yep. Check that accent out. Wow. And she plays an American in Bates Motel. She's versatile. Wow. So I'm loving her.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Yeah, yeah. So overall, yeah, it was really good. Did have a bit of a TV-esquey thing. It did. very theatrical, wasn't it? Obviously because it was set in musicals, but... But I have a bit of a soft spot for that because my first ever, like, amateur dramatics play was Jack the Ripper the Musical.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Really? And it was all set in within a music hall. Oh, lovely. And it goes in and out of the Jack the Ripper story in the musical. Very much like that then. Yeah, so I was just remembering, like, ten years ago, my first ever show, I played the first Irish prostitute to get knocked off. Lovely.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Best part. I opened the whole show. It was terrifying. Oh my God. But, yeah, so I like it because I'm just, I'm a massive fan of a corset and a British. Oh, yeah, totally. And a mystery drama.
Starting point is 01:24:18 But, yeah, we're not going to reveal who is who, but there's some amazing twist and amazing character work. Very dark, it's amazing. And sometimes quite funny, actually. And Douglas Booth, who is like the teen heartthrob. Yeah. And he's wearing, like, crooked false teeth. He's gone away from, he's gone from,
Starting point is 01:24:32 I think he looked like Freddie Mercury. And he was channeling Russell Brand a little bit with that accent. Do you not think, wasn't it? Do you know what I found interesting? I found interesting how the film tried to portray like domestic violence and violence towards women as if it was comedy and it was like
Starting point is 01:24:47 it was really clever like especially at one point when one of the characters mentions that Dan Lino his speciality is well comedy about women being attacked really but I think in that in that time that was just the norm wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:25:02 They could take the piss out of it like you imagine that now wherever they were just get petrol bombed opera yeah but there was one quote that so you were a sort of wriggling and a bit bored but there was one bit of the movie that you really liked and there was one quote and it stuck with you and what's the quote? Some people's names are written in stone and some
Starting point is 01:25:19 are written in ice. Yeah absolutely. Which is incredibly relevant to me and Johanna because obviously we feel like we're famous because we've got millions of views and millions of followers or whatever but it's really interesting so essentially what they're saying is if you can be forgotten about when you're hot and cold your name isn't written
Starting point is 01:25:35 in stone so it just it resonates yeah all about being famous so it was a really good film I did enjoy it, not for everyone, but if you like a bit of a gory murder mystery, set in the Victorian Times, a bit of corset. And a bit of gory, it was actually quite gory, wasn't it? Yeah, I was thinking about you, I was thinking, is she all right? I was sort of wrestling under his t-shirt for some of it, like, but he was really mean,
Starting point is 01:25:57 he goes, he goes, it's over, it's over, so I looked out, and then he was like, not over, how? How do you not know that yet? I know, I loved me. I saw This week I checked out Netflix To the Bone with Lily Collins
Starting point is 01:26:12 and Keanu Reeves I had no idea Keanu Reeves was the main person in it Film TV show It's a film It's called To The Bone
Starting point is 01:26:19 And there's been loads of like Stick and Flack around it Because it's around eating disorders Oh yeah yeah And Lily Collins Lost like 20 pounds
Starting point is 01:26:27 To play the Rotin Not that she could really lose Anything else No She did And I found that The film really good from someone who did have an eating disorder as a teenager
Starting point is 01:26:39 I found it uncomfortable to watch but only because it's like uncomfortable through But what everyone's saying is they're like Oh this is like glorifying or it's maybe teaching girls to me And I'm like no I think people that say that probably have never had an eating disorder Yeah I was like And one point that they make within the movie
Starting point is 01:27:00 Because the girl she has an eating disorder And she's also an artist and she drew and in the movie, she's dealing with the fact that her sort of Tumblr account of Thinspiration art inspired one girl to go to the point where she died. But the whole point in the movie where they were saying like, she can get inspiration
Starting point is 01:27:18 or Thin Spiration or whatever anywhere. So it's actually the fault isn't with the movie you watch or the picture that you glorify. The fault is to do with the person's own issues and whatnot. So this is about a story about a young girl called Ellen who has anorexia. and as a last ditch attempt her really dysfunctional family
Starting point is 01:27:37 put her in this weird sort of like therapy safe house which Keanu Reeves is the doctor and he uses very alternative methods and he's not very like doctory he'll talk to them and he'll use your message like saying you know go fuck yourself and stuff
Starting point is 01:27:53 and you really like jolt seven around and it's kind of like a bit of a buddy movie because she meets these seven people who deal with different eating disorders in the house you've got overeaters, bulimia, benemia, anorexia, um, a bit of a kind of love story in there as well.
Starting point is 01:28:07 And then, but really it's about this girl kind of hitting her low, hitting her bottom. Yeah. And the, and, and,
Starting point is 01:28:15 and it's not all doom and gloom. It's not her, finding her, the moment that she's like, no, I'm going to start. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Um, so it was really good. Made me cry. Uh, well, that's always, there's always a good sign because then you're invested in it,
Starting point is 01:28:28 you know? Yeah. If you don't cry, it's obviously shit. So, Lily was good. And it just made me a bit sad because, because I do think about all the people
Starting point is 01:28:34 who are stuck in this illness or any kind of illness to do with food and people so likely they just touched on all of the topics and people going just eat and it's not that simple or just stop eating or whatever it's like it's never that simple
Starting point is 01:28:49 it's so complicated and like deal with the stuff going on under your knees movies like that have a responsibility to yes bring it to like use that as a medium of entertainment as long as you you bring it home in some way you resolve it in some way and you offer some
Starting point is 01:29:05 comfort and help and you know it's like the whole 13 reasons why I think that brought to light issues that people don't talk about so to the bone is bringing to light issues that people don't talk about and the fact that you know this girl got help it can inspire other people to turn around you know so that yeah within the film I thought it was really good
Starting point is 01:29:24 and really well acted and I really enjoyed it as a story and it's on Netflix now to the bone I did feel I did feel I was feeling faint through it I think just because of the they have a lot of actual anorexic actors
Starting point is 01:29:39 and they must CGI they must have CGIed Lily in some way because there was a bit when they were like weighing her and it was like every bone and stuff and I did feel I was feeling like quite faint like watching it but yeah
Starting point is 01:29:52 what impact though but it was affecting me which was yeah yeah yeah the other thing that I wanted to shout out just before we close the show is there is a pilot on Amazon Prime called Oasis, which is the guy who played Rob Stark
Starting point is 01:30:04 in Game of Thrones who got killed. Richard Madden. He was actually Prince Charming as well in Cinderella. I love him, yeah. So he is in this new series called Oasis and I was one, I loved it, so I was like, yeah. Then I was gutted to find out it's on the Amazon pilot series. So there's just
Starting point is 01:30:20 the one episode for the moment, but I encourage people to watch it because the more people to watch it, the more likely is to get commissioned. It's set in like 2034. Nice. It's like a mission to move to a distant planet called Oasis. And it's about this guy who's a preacher. It's very similar to sort of like Elysium.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yeah, love that film. Yeah, where the people who are like that is overpopulated and sort of disease-ridden world now and like overpacked cities and people are trying to find a colony in the stars. And he gets taken, as a preacher, he gets brought out specifically from a friend who's on that. mission and they fly them out to oasis but all's not as it seems and there's weird goings on people are starting to see things on the planet and they say that initially it's to do with your eyes adjusting to the pressure of the planet and like pressure but it's not like that there's something going on supernatural on the planet and obviously they ended it on a cliffhanger
Starting point is 01:31:18 and it was just really good and I could I could tell it was a decent sci-fi called oasis people don't get on Amazon enough and I think you need to you know get on there's some good stuff. I'm slowly going through that and I'm really getting into American gods. I'm now on the fifth episode. I only watched the first one. I haven't gone back to it yet. Shit hits the fan. The fourth episode really. I was like, I don't know. And then the wife came back from the dead. That isn't really
Starting point is 01:31:43 I couldn't get into it. No. But the wife came back from the dead. That's not really a spoiler because it's been in trailers I've seen there. Yeah, yeah. It's part of the synopsis series. She comes back from the dead. And when she does, that was an amazing episode. Wow. And now I'm hooked again. So, so, American God's episode, get to episode four. You probably will...
Starting point is 01:32:00 Stick with it. If you don't like it past then, that's not for you. But if you do, yeah. And Oasis was... Lovely. Yeah, so brilliant stuff. Dube, thank you so much for coming in and be in my co-place. My pleasure.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Can you make it payable in cash? Fantastic. That's sort of $2.2 million like Chris... Yes, Chris Evans, yeah. That's shocking. But brilliant. Thank you so much for Carmen in again. And I hope you're foot in your little toesies get better.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yes, they're better now. I'm going to end with, what am I going to end with music-wise? I'm going to go for Immigrant Song. Why did you look at me when you said that? Oh, awkward. We could go for Runaround Sue. Nice. Let's stick to Immigrant Song.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Immigrantz. Okay, this is about Rang Chil. We'll see you next week at 4-26 on Food Bar and Radio. Have an amazing weekend. If you enjoyed this podcast, please don't forget to rate and review us on iTunes.

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