Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 46 - Zoe Kazan, Richard Sparks, Brad Birch

Episode Date: August 1, 2017

Jahanna and guest presenter Carla Harrison Hodge get to chat to Richard Sparks, the man who kick started Rowan Atkinson’s early career! Jahanna also caught up with Zoe Kazan about her brand new film, The Big Sick.

This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James and North Clark on Fubar Radio. Good afternoon. It is Back Row and Chill on Fubar Radio. I'm Johan James. And I'm joined this week by my very good friend, Carla Harrison. Welcome, welcome, welcome. She is coming to be my studio buddy with me today.

It's going to be driving the show. We've got a really packed show for you today, guys. you've got so many guests. We're going to be teaking. We're going to be talking. Well, I'm going to try and talk. We've got so many people who have got shows on the Edinburgh Festival, giving you the lowdown of what is cool to watch there

if you're heading up to Edinburgh this August. Because it is basically August. It is, isn't it? Nearly, isn't it? And it's also Jehanna's birthday tomorrow. Oh, Carla! It is, it's my birthday. So, yeah, full on celebrations for that.

Yes, we were partying. Now, Carly, you've been partying. Carly, you've been a guest on my show before. I have. But you've not been a co-host. So I'm going to guide you through what goes on every week. Basically, I pick a selection of my favorite songs that are to do with movies, TV, soundtracks that I've been just really, really loving at the moment.

So I'm going to be showing you a couple of those. I've checked out a movie, an old Johnny Depp movie called Cry Baby. I know that film. It has the most amazing soundtrack. Really weird film. Didn't like the film. Who else is in it? I didn't know it.

I didn't know anybody else. Okay. It's old, isn't it? It's like 1991. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Johnny Depp's in it. He's really young.

He's really fit. He's really fit, isn't it? But even fit Johnny Depp couldn't really get, it was like the worst acting I've ever seen in my life. But the songs are amazing, so we're going to be playing a lot from Crybaby.

If you guys want to get involved in the show, we want to hear from you. So please just tweet us at Fubbar Radio or email in straight to me on my computer, which is Chill at Fubbaradio.com. We will shout you out. So let us know what you're doing, what you're up to. Just to get involved, basically.

Please, do that. Do that. Talk to us. Because otherwise it's just lost in the studio and it's a little bit weird. Okay, we're going to kick off with the, quick kick off. Let's kick off with Bad Boy, the Jive Bomber from the Cry Baby soundtrack. This is a song. This is one of the songs from the movie, which I'm loving.

But I didn't, I didn't love the movie. I just love the soundtrack. Okay, there we go. This is it. Background chill. Amazing. Beautiful. I know.

It's very sexy. I know. I've been all over the like do-wop kind of 50s songs this week. It's going to be a bit of a 50s week this week for music. Right. What were we just talking about something? We're talking about feet. We're talking about feet.

Okay, no. We'll backtrack. Here's the link. Okay. So I make comedy sketches online. I run a Facebook page and an Instagram page and whatnot. Follow, follow. Recently, I shouted out Carla, who's a good mate of mine, and also an actress.

And you said you've got a lot of sort of likes and followers for it. from that and I said oh did you get anyone asking to see your feet and I was like no because that is the number one like weird requests that I get on my social media inboxes is guys asking to see my feet they were like which part of your foot um the soul of the foot they want to see the soul or the toes um it started to be a bit of a running joke so in couple of our sketches we would make sure we have like a shot on my foot just to just to appeal to the fans I can't remember what your feet look like they're really minginging I don't mean Does anyone have nice feet?

I don't, this is the thing. I've never met anyone with nice feet. No, I don't think so. Yeah, I had to think that. I thought of someone, but actually no. No. No. Custy feet. Even like, you know, in the media, when you see a picture of a foot,

it's all going to be photoshopped and edited and like. Get rid of those bunions. Foot tune those bunions away. Exactly. And like when you just look at feet, like on their own, the more you look at them as an isolated thing, they just look like, stop looking at my feet. I can see you. I'm sorry.

But you do have nice shoes on. Thank you very much. Yeah, I don't know. Do you guys, like, feed out there? Do you find feet attractive? Is your foot fetish? Is your fetish a foot fetish? Yes. Be honest and let us know. I think we all know someone with a foot fetish. Tweet us at Food Bar Radio. Have you ever had a funny story about someone with a foot fetish? Again, please let us know. We're going to talk about feet today. Toes sucking. Have you ever sucked a toe? I'm not from what I remember. No. I think you'd remember.

Yeah, I'd definitely have my toes. Toes. You've had your toes sucked. My toes sucked. Oh. The thing is, is that. I'm quite tickily. So if someone sucks my toe, I'm very likely to kick them in the face quite hard. Have you sucked a toe? I have, indeed. How do you feel about it? I made the massive error of it not really being clean.

Ew. So it's quite salty to the taste. Salty toes. But never mind. Not for everyone, feet. No. Right, let's get back to the show. The show.

Background and chill. entertainment show. This is the part of the show where we do Entertainment News. So here we go. It's the Entertainment News on Backrow and Chill. For three seconds, I can pretend on one channel four.

I got my papers. Shuffling the papers. Right, first up. Wonder Woman 2, the release date. Oh, wow. Has been confirmed. Okay, I haven't seen the first one yet. And I feel like a terrible person

and a terrible woman and a terrible feminist. I know. But I haven't seen it yet. neither have I Oh! I know. I thought you would have seen it. I know, but sometimes

they release films in such a, like a burst. I can physically only go so many times in a week. I know. Well, now I've missed it in the cinema. I'm going to wait for it to be released and stuff. But, yes, it's definitely coming back. It's going to be, it's going to hit the cinemas. December 13th, 2019.

So I put that in your diary, because... That's a long time away. That's in a long time away. I don't really know much about it yet, apart from that Wonder Woman was set in 1918 at the end of World War 1, whereas the sequel looked like it's going to be set in the 80s.

Oh, your favourite. My favourite era. Favorite era. Ever. Definitely your favourite era. Following the Cold War. Oh, political. That's a political. A political movie there. Oh, and I'm very excited about this next piece of news.

Mean Girls. The Musical. Oh, my. It's totally fed. Got anyone that knows me knows I can quote like... You can you quote it. So much of it. Regina George. Oh, I just love it.

Every girl has had a Regina George in her life. Oh, absolutely. It is probably the most relatable. I'm just thinking of who was on our drama school. Me and Joe went to drama school together. That's how me and kind of know each other. We are act tools. Yes.

Trained act tools. And yeah, oh, can't really get much more bitchier than American high school. Yeah, it's so true. Yeah, so that's cool. Oh, Erica Henningson, who's from Les Miserab. we'll take on the role of Katie Heron. Katie Heron. The home school junk break.

It was my mom's in the 80s. Gruel. Remember that quote? The what? It was my mom's in the 80s. Oh, no. Oh, you're rubbish. You're obviously a bit of a better fan.

Okay, okay. Yes. Yes, you can win that. I would definitely go see Meen Girl and Musical. Although it's Broadway. Oh. It's Broadway. It's quite far away.

So we're going to have to wait. A few years. Unless we just. Unless we just go and do like a Maybe we could be in it Do you do it? Yeah Oh my gosh

You could play What's the one? What's the um The girl What's there's the girl Gretchen Wiener Oh Gretchen Wieners Oh Gretchen Wieners is such a wet noodle

It's a good role though Yeah Who would you be? Wait What's her name? Oh Karen Karen with the boobs

Who's boobs? whose boobs can predict the weather. There's a 99% chance that it's already raining. I think with that audition, I think you've just won that role. Yeah, actually I prefer to play Karen. Karen's great part of. Yeah, I'd play Karen. She's great.

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Right. Oh, Ryan Reynolds isn't allowed to do his own stunts on Deadpool 2. Probably because his face is worth like 5 million billion pounds now. I don't find him attractive. No, I don't. No, not physically.

No. It's funny, which is very important. It is, isn't it? But... Not fit. No. Is he? Is he fit? I didn't get it.

No. His wife's fit. His wife is fit. I prefer his wife. Definitely prefer his wife. Yeah. She's ridiculous. Blake.

Lively. That's it. Blake lovely. More like. Blake love me. She's in love me. She's gorgeous. Yeah, I think Ryan's got like a really banging personality.

I'm saying that I can know him. Yeah, me and Ryan go well by. Yeah. Hey, right. Rui. Ray, Ray. No. I did.

Yeah, there's a slight. essence to Deadpool that I find attractive. I haven't seen it. Oh, sorry. Oh, Carla, yes. I'm just, you must. Really shit. It's like, he plays this character that is like so witty and funny and bad boy and stuff.

Is he like a bad superhero? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a dickhead superhero. He's kind of fights for good, but he's a bit of a dick as well. So, you know, why do we like these bad hair? What is wrong with him? It's so much of badass. Oh, so, but anyway, the actor said he's had some bad injuries doing stunts.

he broke a couple of vertebrae in his neck and it was a bad situation um yeah and so all apparently he he, Ryan Reynolds said he was sat in a doctor's office and about the seventh time he'd been in there that year and the doctor wrote on the prescription pad it reads stuntman

point taken okay well point taken I don't really understand that I don't get it I was waiting for the pun tonight there so was I okay so was I moving on so now he's

He has four different stunt guys that go with him everywhere. And Ryan Reynolds does not do his own stunts. Oh, there's, um, if you like Blake Lively Lovely, Lovely, Love Me, she is in a movie on Netflix at the moment called The Age of Adeline. Oh no, age of Adeline. Oh, no, I've seen it. Do you like it? No, but it was a, I enjoyed watching her, and it was a weird movie,

it was a really odd movie, that film. So she gets struck by enlightening when she's how old, what, 27 years old? Something like that, yeah. And she never ages. So for the next, what is it? She's 120. And she looks the same. And she looks forever 27.

Yeah. Which initially, I was like, oh my God, that's amazing. Dream. She just looks 27 for the rest of her life. But then it's really sad when her own daughter is like 80. Yeah. That's the sad of it. So she's going to die.

And you're 27. You know, that's not up. Still, not a good film. An interesting concept. Yeah. Not a good film. Not executed well. No, definitely not executed well.

But if you like looking at, Blake Lively. We all do. I have this bit of a weird thing with celebrities. I like to look at their real face. The real face? Yeah, so if you Google Blake Lively before she was famous, because obviously she did a lot of work done.

Has she? Oh, yeah. What has she had done? Nose job, boob job. Like, there's going to be like fillers and stuff for sure. How do you know this? Internet? Well, you just look at her picture from before, and you're like...

So what was she about before? Half her nose has gone. Like, it's true, it's true. I'm not, you know, I'm not like, I'm not saying anyone to her. Someone tweets in a picture of her nose. Of the original, like, loving. No, but even if you watch her audition for, because she blew up with Gossip Girl,

and if you watch her original audition, and I think the pilot episode, she has her original nose, and then she obviously gets the role, gets a quickie nose job, and then does not look like that anymore. Oh, it's kind of sad. It's kind of sad.

It hasn't really done her any harm, though, is it? Yeah. But it's like a weird little pastime of mine I'll look at a separately that I quite like And then I'll just Google like Before surgery and then you it's amazing Like looking at the evolution of Kylie Jenna Well that is I mean that could

That is a car that is a car crash That is waiting to happen She's not even 25 She's so young She looks like 30 I mean she looks older Her face doesn't move I know

Like you wouldn't know if she's happy or sad You'd be like hey No Well you marry me I know too much of the lip stuffing I want to know where oh we've got it we've got a picture

of the original all the original teeth the original nose the original wow well we can't really see the movies I think she must have something under her eyes as well

oh she's so pretty though she didn't need to do that she looks like a pretty country home girl she does and then there she just looks like Blake fuck me Is she a woman crush then? Like, do you have a proper?

I think I am. I think I'm crashing on her. Who's my top woman crush? Ooh, ooh, ooh. So many. There are so many women. There's so many more women than men that you crush on. Yeah.

Like it's very rare. I mean, like, walking down the street, I'm like, who. Hey, girl. Hey. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's just a lack of, like, hot guys. Such a lack. In the industry and the world.

In Hollywood. Actually. But who is my woman crush? I'm going to think on that. maybe. Well, okay, we're going to play, talking of women. Let's play the Rolling Stones Miss Amanda Jones. And then we can think about what lady we want to be crushing on.

And if you want to get involved as well, just tweet in at Fubar Radio. Who is your lady crush out of everyone? It could be famous, could be not, let us know. Could be us. Could be me. Not me! Back row and chill with Johanna James on Fubar Radio. You're listening to Back Row and Chill.

It's Friday. I'm Johanna. I'm joined today. by Carla Harrison Hodge. That is a... Hey, my name. It's an amazing

famous person name. That's what it is. I'm not famous, or am I? Not yet. All right. Yet. Thank you.

Three letters. Very important. Soon to be. And we are joined today by our first guest. A huge welcome to Ellen Daniels. Welcome to the show. Hello.

Oh, oh. Oh, I think I put the wrong mic on. There we go. There we go. Did that work? Hello. There we are. Oh, you've got such a lovely voice.

Oh, thanks. Streamy. You're from a the pond. Yeah. I'm from Florida originally but I live in LA. I'm going to Florida. Are you? I've just booked a holiday. Yeah. I'm gonna go, we're gonna go to do the whole Orlando universal thing in September. That's where I'm from. I'm from Orlando. Oh, going to hometown. Okay, we'll have to have a chat after about like where to go and what to eat. Well, I don't even know anymore because I haven't lived there in so long and everything has like changed so massively but I mean,

you know, I can tell you like a few things. I'm like no, we're not having that chat. Maybe after. We are here today to talk about your show called Emotional Terrorism, which is a pretty punchy show title. Yeah. What is that about? It's a one-woman show, right? It's a one-woman show.

It's about a lot of things. It's a, you know, it started off as like, how do I understand the origin of the voices in my head? think like we all have these voices that are telling, I mean, maybe it's just me. Definitely. Right? Yeah. I'm glad I'm not alone.

Yeah. So it's like where did those voices come from? And then I started to explore, you know, sort of my early like teens through my 20s and kind of just what I encountered. I was a model. I was scouted when I was 17 in Paris on the street by a modeling agent. So I started modeling. I developed an eating disorder.

Like I was told I was too fat when I was really. young and it was really scary and my only way to kind of control that was to become bulimic. And, you know, I had like sort of emotionally abusive boyfriends and who were much older than I was. So it was sort of taking all this stuff. I was also a ballet dancer. So I had like that rigorous discipline as well, you know. That would do it. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's like a lot of that stuff. And I was like, okay, how do I look at this through a comedic lens? because I do see it as very comical now because that's the only way I've coped with it in a way, you know? And so I created this show where, you know, I'm sort of reenacting certain parts of my life that when I've told this story to other people,

they're like, oh, my God, that's absurd. And they laugh because it's just like so absurd a lot of the times that you're like, oh, my God, I can't believe these people. You know, you can't often believe what people say. and so yeah So did comedy come to you or did you, were you comedy with before modeling or? No, after, well actually in tandem

because I moved to LA as while I was modeling and then I started acting and I was doing like small things like on TV shows, guest stars and stuff and it was really hard, you know, I wasn't really, nothing was really taking off and somebody actually multiple people suggested that I do stand up comedy which was like very... That's a massive

compliment though. It is. But I didn't know that at the time. Because I'd be in these acting classes doing dramatic scenes and people would be laughing. You know? And they're like, I'm sorry. It's just so funny. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm crying. You know, I'd worked really hard to get to this emotional

place and the whole class is like, so then I met actually a comedian and he was like, oh, I was telling him a story about this guy I was dating. who had like invited me over to his house. I mean, dating is a strong word. I was trying to date him. I think he was just...

Oh, yeah. The one-way date road. He was like allowing me to cook him dinner. You know what I mean? Oh, God. Yeah, it was really weird. And he was a strange guy, but he was a friend of my cousins. And I sort of got so intrigued with him.

And he would invite me over and we'd watch Will and Grace. And whenever we were watching Will and Grace, then he'd start to get frisky, which was a little bit of what's going on here. Okay. Yeah, and then one day he invited me into his room and I was like, yes, this is going to happen. And then he gave me an iPod and he put the earbud in my ear and he was like, listen to this and he played Britney Spears for me, which was like so, I was like, are you trying to tell me something or what's going on?

He's like, no, I just like the song. And it was just so absurd. What song was it? Hit me baby one more time. Okay. And so I was like, are you trying to come out to me right now? Like, if you're gay, like, we can be good friends. I don't know, but this is just a strange moment.

And then he was like hugging me in the bed and the clock turned from like midnight to 1201. And he was like, it's my birthday. Oh. Yeah, it was sort of murderous and like weird. So this comic that I was talking to, he was like, you should totally like turn this into a story for stand-up. and I didn't know how to do stand-up because stand-up was so far outside of my spectrum I never really watched stand-up comedy

but slowly I many many years later I started to do it basically somebody was like again you should do stand-up you should do stand-up so then there's like a class for everything in L.A., so I took a stand-up comedy class and started doing stand-up

I think it's so brave people who do one-woman one-man shows I think I feel like I need someone else there to be like Save me to you Yeah I didn't realize Yeah totally I didn't realize Because when you do stand at like straight stand-up comedy You do have the audience there

I mean you're alone But you can You know you can sort of interact with the audience And that's the fun of it But with this more scripted show What I have realized is oh my God I'm actually out here on my own And you know

If they don't laugh at something or people Different audiences respond differently to this show. So some are much more quiet and they're sort of like more contemplative and some are more raucous and like ah, no, he didn't. So it sort of depends. And you know, when you're up there alone

and you don't hear the first laugh that you think you're going to get, it's absolutely terrifying. It's like, oh shit, we have an hour. I said. Yeah, where I'm just going to be here doing this. So, you know. Guys, that was a joke? Yeah.

Yeah. Guys, did you, is this not working? I'll leave. That's okay. And have you ever thought about collaborating with other girls? Because I'm just thinking like your stories are so relatable because I'm going, yep, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I wrote a web series with my friend and collaborator,

Reaver Stieg. She's a Swedish comedian. And we did this web series called 30 debt free and far from happy, which you can see online at far from happy.com. And that was about our experiences dating in LA basically. Okay. And we wrote like a half hour

pilot for that and so we've collaborated on a few things. How is the dating scene in LA? It's really weird. London's pretty. Is it weird? It's kind of weird everywhere isn't it? We me and Jahan are like dating at the same time, weren't we? Yeah. I think we had a breakup at the same time and then we went on

loads like different dates. Yeah. And we had some stories. Yeah. Did you? Yeah, it's crazy. I've had, yeah, some of them I've stayed on the date. It's literally nosedived and I've gone, I'm staying here because there's a story in this. Yes, exactly. And I'm going to stay here and I'm going to use this night to make something from it.

Do you guys feel like men have become like increasingly like almost diminishing or kind of condescending more so than they used to be? Like that's what I find dating now. I think the whole, because I remember watching Bridget Jones. Yeah. And then realizing Bridget Jones was 15 years old. And then there was the new Bridget Jones. And I was sort of writing a similar thing. And I was like, well, so dating now in this era for young people in their sort of mid-20s.

I was like, it's all changed. It's all, it's all Tinder's and dickpicks and immediate things. And I was like, literally, the modern fashion is to send a picture of your genitals to a stranger. and then you kind of go, yep, okay, I'll talk to you. It's just really backwards, like 15 years ago. You could go on a date with someone and not necessarily have like anything. Sleeping with someone wouldn't be like a... The first thing.

Yeah, it's almost like sleeping with them or you're together. Yeah, exactly. There's nothing in between, is there? No, no. No, not at all. No, like we're just getting to know each other. I think that's because men sometimes feel there's so many options. Yeah.

Well, we all have so many options, right? Because Tinder is sort of shopping for a person. And you kind of get this feeling of like, you know, you're in control. Yeah, shopping. You get to swing. You get to play the king. Yeah, off with your head. On with your head.

Off with your head. Yeah, it's really, I don't know. I don't think it's good for our humanity. No, not at all. My friend actually, Rie, the one who, she was sent a Snapchat from a man of himself jerking off. And that's a guy who's like a serious, I mean, I can't say who. is, but he's a serious person in LA.

I don't know why. Why do they think that we want to see that? Why? Exactly. I'm very confused. It's so aggressive. It must be porn or it must be they want the immediate see? I don't know.

Yeah, I think it's half that market thing where it becomes a bit like you kind of get confused between eBay and real people. And yeah, and I think the sort of porn world definitely merges with social media. And they can't quite distinguish what is a girl in a chat room, like a fake chat. And it's very quick. Everything's very quick. Very quick. And like sex is quick. Like people are so used to orgasming really quickly so they can't just like enjoy like.

Enjoy it out a little bit. But also on the flip side of that, there is still. So you think everything's sort of progressed massively in this area. But what hasn't progressed is the idea that if you are down to do all that stuff, that that's totally fine, you will still get such shame. Totally. Absolutely. In the words of someone, you will be stained.

And I was like, I was like, hold on a second. No, no. I was like, you can't ask girls to do all this, this and that and this and that on the first date and still then label them as something. Totally. Totally not cool. No, not cool. I wrote a blog for a Huff Post, UK, in promotion of this show. And it was called Let Amy Schumer make you feel icky so your daughters can be free because a friend of mine was talking about Amy Schumer's last special.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Which was the leather special. And my girlfriend was like, I didn't like it. It made me feel really gross. And I was like, why? though because you know that's because we are shamed all the time. Don't talk about your vagina

don't talk I mean everything needs to be perfect but at the same time you need to be a whore you need to be that but don't be a whore but do this but don't do this have kids don't have kids have a career don't have a career it's like whatever you do as a woman it feels like somebody's ready to tell you it's wrong for sure yeah absolutely

there's no yeah middle ground you want to be like this it's really hard it's really hard it's constant contradictions isn't it? Yeah and it's hard to know because I mean I think we want to have careers now right but it's then well how do you do that and have a family and

you know it's everything is and then if you did want to have a family this is what I think who the hell are you gonna have a family with like who are you're gonna meet a husband on Tinder or maybe it will become the standard where you have different like different relationships for different

times of your life yeah so you literally have it would be like oh he's my first This is the first boyfriend. This is the second boyfriend. And it's like we're expected to have families through stages rather than be with one. It's really weird. It's weird.

But maybe that actually that model makes sense. And it might be nice if we kind of started, you know, adapting culturally or like showing that on television and stuff. So people didn't feel the pressure of in addition to all these things you have to do. You also have to find the one. Yeah. Yes. You know? Finding the one on Tinder.

Yeah. Find the one on Tinder. When you get a picture of somebody's like, dick, it's like, that's the one. That's it. That's him. That's a one. Yeah. My soulmate.

I saw a picture of your dad's dick and I just fell in love. It was. I took a little bit. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's getting weird when, like, parents are on Tinder. Oh, God. It's just getting confusing.

It's really confusing. The circles are getting smaller. It's, I've never actually been on Tinder. Oh, you're so lucky. I have. I've been on all of the apps. Have you? But for, like, a period of,

Go you. About, all right. On my period of six months. Yeah, you can only do it for that long. And I went on a lot of dates, a lot. And I don't think I had one guy that I would see again. Wow. Like not one.

Wow. So. Because why would you say, is there a general reason, rude? I find that a lot of them kind of decide that they're going to pretend that they want a relationship with you. And I'm not asking them for that, actually. Yeah. and then when you don't have sex with them straight away

they somehow they get all funny about it you know that was something that you said that was really funny once on your Twitter about I never saw him again that was it remember no you don't remember you said we both kept we were seeing different guys and they just disappeared wow so I think what happened as well is I'd not have sex with them

then have sex with them and bye never see them again. It's like the end of the story, the fairy tales, yes, they got what they wanted. They got what they wanted, but then they could have just said

at the beginning, I just wouldn't have sex. Right. Instead of like, plate, like, no, like I need to be... Exactly. That wanted the relationship,

even though you didn't. I need to be whined and dying. Yes. I feel like all of this, we need to make sure that we keep scribbling it down because you have turned this into an amazing show.

Yeah. Emotional terrorism. Just that's what we're talking about, guys, if you've just joined us. Ellen Daniels, you're going to be at the fringe. Yeah, I'm going to be at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival at Just the Tonic, the Big Room, 9 p.m. every night, except the 14th, and the 28th, I think, or 27th. And are you also going to be in London?

Yeah. I'm doing a show tonight at the Hen and Chickens Theater, Hover and Islington, 7.30 p.m. tomorrow night, 7.30 p.m., Henan Chickens, Highbury and Islington. And then on Sunday, we have two shows at the Rosemary Branch Theater. I think that's sort of short-ed-ish. Yeah. 2.30 p.m. and 7.30 p.m. Oh my God, you're going to be exhausted, but a huge... It looks amazing. It really looks great.

Calm down. Congratulations. Right, we're going to go back to a little bit more of our soundtrack movie songs. Movies. This is another one. This is from an 80s movie called Adventures in Babesitting. One of my favorites. You guys know this one? Yeah, this is 25 Miles by Edwin Star.

Thank you so much for coming in today. Thank you guys for having me. That's all right. Backer and Chill. Okay, I won't sing that. But, yeah, that's one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite movies. Another sexy one. Yeah, another sexy.

Good, we've got two out two out of two. Two out of two. Two out of two. Two out two. Oh wow, we've been chatting away. We've got our second guest in the studio, so a huge welcome to Lily Levin. Hello.

Hello. And we are here to talk about tits. Yay! Literally tits and also the documentary you're making called tits. Yeah. Super exciting. What is that about?

Obviously, tits. Yeah. Tits, basically. really exciting I'm actually the producer the director is Tristan Bell who is a really talented cinematographer you can find him on Vimeo

Tristan Bell other stuff that he's done but he came up with the idea after his grandma had a double mastectomy I think before he was born actually so she kind of just always had no boobs and he was always kind of like oh I wonder I wonder what that's like

for a woman like that's what is that for a woman? It's interesting that a man thought that. Yeah, I mean, he's gay as well. Yeah. That's important to mention. He hasn't just gone, oh, let's make a film about tits. Yeah. So I can look at those of tics and say it's a film.

No, he's gay and he obviously grew up with a lot of close girlfriends and obviously the situation with grandma. She never talked about the fact that she didn't have any tits. And he just sort of wondered, oh, I wonder what is that for a woman, you know? And obviously, as a teenager, when you're sort of at that age and all your friends, And if you're a boy, not you, but all your friends are just sprouting these breasts coming from nowhere.

And so, obviously, if you're a straight boy, you're like, whoa, ho, this is, yay. And if you're a gay boy, you're like, oh, well, this is weird. So, yeah, it's quite nice that he's coming from that perspective because he's got this kind of unique, genuine curiosity about it and it's actually a really good way to explore it. I think everyone's curious about boobs.

I love boobs. I love boobs. I think boobs are amazing to look at. They are fun, aren't they? And I think it's a really, well, it's a subject that 50% of the population can relate to because they all have tits. More than 50%?

More than the majority. How much? How much? Just more. We're just, do you? I don't. We're a little bit more. So there's more tits, there's more tits than not.

But then some men do have tits as well, so it probably can cause it out. Yeah. Yeah. You know, just mad boobs. But this documentary, this sounds really, really cool. So you cover issues. like breast cancer reduction surgery enhancement surgery, transgender issues

and yeah sexuality issues because there is like there's a massive movement between of like sexualising boobs I mean they always have been looked at that way but I remember when I was younger people breastfeeding like in the park or wherever all my mum's friends they just whack at it

out and it wouldn't even be it wouldn't even be anything yeah I didn't even make me jump it didn't make anyone else jump didn't make any of my mom's friends male friends jump it was not really a thing it was just like oh they're just fin their baby now, like, if you feed your baby on, like, a tube or a restaurant, it can cause, like, a fucking showdown.

Somebody somewhere is going to have something to say about that shit. Yeah, guys, if you're listening out there and you're like, yeah, if you have a bad experience, negative experience, or, I mean, you know, like, fuck it, if you've got an opposite opinion to us, if you think it is not right, let us know. Tweak us at Fulbar Radio, join in the discussion, or email us, chill at fubaradio.com.

Because this is a big subject, and it's one that kind of some people don't want to talk about, And I think that's changed, like you say, I think it's because of the sexualisation of bodies in the media. Absolutely. In general. And so you then, you grew up associating that part of a woman's body. With sex.

And it's starting to happen with men now. Don't get me wrong. But we're talking about tits, so. I think you've kind of almost exclusively now associate that part of a woman's body with sex. And I think, do you know what? It's fine to sexualise things in a sexual context. because sex is great. But feeding your child is not a sexual concept?

Feeding a child is not a sexual thing, and your breasts are not a sexual thing when they're doing a non-sexual thing, such as feeding your child. So I think it's all about context, and it's all about what that person is doing with them at the time. They're not sort of going around, flashing them, going, look at my boobies.

It is an odd thing, actually, to have an organ of your body that is, like, multifunctional, and in one instance can be, completely like neutral or like what's the word like essential really and then and then in another instance be completely sexual is I mean we've made that for it and I think that's fine I think that's fine I just think that we need to be able to have the other side of it as well yeah it's said it's kind of some people would say that boobs have been fetishized that they were never a sexual organ they're just part of a woman's body a functional part of a woman's body

for feeding a baby and they've become sexualized in the media and I think if you've got a thing for boobs fine but not everybody has some people are

some people are bum men some people about the bums or the legs or the feet definitely the feet you know what I'm saying people can fetishize any part of the human body

and tits are no different yeah I know people that are really get excited about feet so do you have a favourite person that you sort of interviewed for the documentary, a favourite story.

Well, it's going to be mini episodes on a web series first, isn't it, and then combined? So do you have a personal favourite of a story or someone that you met? It's really hard to give a favourite because they're all so different and coming from such different perspectives and also, I know all of them.

They're all like my friends and family. It's amazing how many people are just willing to just get their tits out. That's one of the things I learned about this documentary. People aren't weirded out about their tits. It's other people that are weirded out. Yeah. About that it's.

But I would mention some things that I've learned from doing it. I interviewed my auntie Katie, who has one breast, and she had cancer just over a year ago. And she decided not to get the reconstruction. And her reasoning for not having the reconstruction was really, really interesting to me. And I think something that should be talked about more. She just didn't want any more. It's a much more major operation if you do have the reconstruction. Also, there's no sort of guarantee that then, you know,

you wouldn't get cancer in the other one or this one would get, you know, it's not always a successful operation. And she was sort of like, well, her words were, been there, done that, wore the bra. If you don't like it, you can fuck off, basically. And somebody said to her, you know, what does your husband think about that? and she just went, what the fuck's it got to do with him? Yeah. They hurt it. You know.

So, I don't know. And the main thing that she was basically saying to us, because the other thing is that she lost her mum to breast cancer when she was 16, 17 years old, and obviously that's a huge thing in her life. And then she lost her older sister as well. Wow. When that sister, she was only in her 30s,

and she left three kids behind. And so when my auntie, she found the lump, she didn't go, oh no, I might lose a breast. She went, I could die. She went, you know, what about my kids? What about the people in my life? It's not about the breast. It's about everything else just gets shrinks right down, isn't it?

Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, yeah. I always thought, I did always think about it, That if I had to have the option of removing one, I think I would remove both. Yeah. One for the safety, but also two, just, probably just for feeling like... Symmetrical.

Symmetrical. Yeah, so either having, like, just, you know, rock no tits or have a reconstruction and rock, too. Yeah, I think maybe that, because we've got so many, we've got two of so much stuff on our body. Like, eyes and hands and stuff, like, I feel that, like... Yeah, I mean, I remember, like, and when high-profile people, like, Angenina Jolie. Yeah, yeah. she chose to remove her boobs and get reconstruction. Although her like reconstruction was a pretty massive reconstruction.

Oh really? Yeah, which her new boobs are bigger than her old ones. Right, okay. Well, I mean, we interviewed somebody who had Bracker 1, so had a double mastectomy and a reconstruction. And she obviously chose to have the reconstruction. I think hers ended up bigger than they were before as well. But the fact is now that they're safe.

Yeah. now they're not going to kind of... Of course. Yeah, it's a weird one. Because I, and we could talk about all the day, but from my personal story is I thought about having a breast reduction

for 11 years. Oh, wow. And then I decided to go for it last year. Yep. And so I'm like 11 months in to a breast reduction, which it actually like weirdly caused like really weird waves around people around me.

People were like, angry that I was getting a breast reduction or just people being like no your boobs are great or like I wish I had your boobs I want big boobs But it was always a thing from what I remember for you Yeah, I was like it was a comfort thing as well Not really to do it. Exactly It was all it was just many many many factors part physical mainly psychological We are actors and performers and I wanted to I felt like I was getting constantly sort of cast in more Yeah, sexual roles or older than I was

like maternal rocks. Because I had big boobies. Exactly. And it was like one of the biggest, most scariest things I've ever done in my life. Well, we have interviewed someone who's had a breast reduction. And next week we are shooting someone who is thinking about having a breast reduction. And both of them have complained of incredible back problems. Yeah.

The woman who's a very good friend of mine, the woman who I'm interviewing next week, she's a double K. Oh, wow. And she is just in constant pain. Yeah. And ever since she was like 16 years old, she's been in hospital every year with back problems. She's slipped a disc. She's got curvature of the spine. But it's not as simple as just going, right, I'm going to get a breast reduction.

No, it is. There's a lot of different pros and cons to it, aren't they? And it's majorly painful. I didn't quite think, so I was so focused on just like the end goal. I didn't quite think about the process of it. And it was horrifically painful. It is nothing like a breast enlargement. It's like major, major reconstructive surgery.

the scar I've had a huge problem with scars and scarring which I'm actually like I'm all right with scars but they are major and I'm going to have to go back and get more stuff done with them and so I can talk about boobs all day because it is a subject for me I've been there through it overall so happy

I did it and nobody needs to know unless I tell them and now I've just said it on live on the radio Has it kind of has a documentary changed to where you see your boobs do? Yeah yeah it has actually I mean I'm actually waiting to find out if I've got

Brackle on which if you find it's not very likely but it's obviously as I've explained about my aunt it's massively in my family

so I'm actually waiting to find out I'm not really concerned about it because I feel like once you know you know and if you don't you don't but you always think okay what would I do

would I get them off maybe I would maybe I wouldn't get them reconstructed maybe they're not that much of a massive part of me after all maybe I can could go around Toppolis if I didn't have any boobs.

So if you guys have joined us and wondering what we're talking about, we are talking about tits, obviously the literal tits, we're also talking about Tits, the documentary film that you're making Lily. And where can people go, just to round up, where can people go to find this? It's going to be online? Yeah, you can go to www.w. tickst documentary.com to learn all about it, have a look at all the participants, watch some clips.

You can subscribe to the newsletter on the website as well, or you have to do is put your email in and we'll send you little things about it. Amazing. More clips and stuff. Also, we're on Instagram, Tits underscore documentary. We're on Facebook. Amazing Instagram.

Follow that Instagram. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go follow that in the next break. Thank you so much, Lily, for coming on. Thank you, Lily. For having me. I'm going to play now. This is Wishing and Hoping,

which is the opening scene to my best friends with. I love this film. I love this film and I love this song. This is Back Row and Chill. Okay. This is Backer James on Foobar Radio. This is Back Row and Chill.

We have nearly halfway through the show car. Already? I know. Time flies when you're talking about tits. We have our, what is it? A third guest in the studio. Tamara Broadbent, a huge

welcome. We're talking about your show, get ugly. Sounds funny. Well, thanks. You're going to be at Edinburgh? Yeah, absolutely. Flying up on Sunday, I can't believe it's so soon.

It's already here. Yeah, it's mental. La France. Yeah. So get ugly. It says, well, the tagline here, did you know when you go through a breakup, you become 25% ugly? Which is an amazing tagline. It is, isn't it? My sister told me that. I was crying and she was like, just so you know, it's just something that happens. So if no one fancied you from now on, just don't get sad. It's just something that happens to everyone. And I was like, thanks.

Oh, helpful, sis. No, she's great, though. She's the best. But it is true. So the show is about like female self-confidence. and the link between confidence and appearance specifically told through the story of like post breakup and all the kind of shit that you have to deal with after that like being accidentally caught with having too much pubic hair and freaking out and being like he'll be scared if I've got a hairy minge and then being like why do we care about stuff like that and then like all that kind of stuff staying up very late in night and freaking out they might have STDs I don't know if that's ever happened to you. post you know I don't know when you ever just like been like after one night stands when you're out of a long term relationship it's like oh my god what if they did and it's like all in kind of like song form

yeah how long was your relationship it was about five years okay wow okay but yeah so so I decided basically I wrote songs about you know when you're like I'm going to be a gym girl now and then going there and being like

actually it's quite hard there's a lot of effort there's a lot more than an Instagram picture going on to make that booty absolutely yeah I find that there is there is a kind of there's a cycle of a breakup which I think

you're like kind of probably nailing with this with this show which is like you kind of you go into well you go into the five stages of grief first of all which is like shock shock sadness numbness anger and then you're finally fine or whatever and the thing about that is they don't go in

any particular order and you can hit anyone at any particular time and you can switch all at the same time. All at the same time. I think all breakups they are hot and they don't get any easier I find you can have like a horrific breakup

next relationship. And the breakup is and I feel like it's a massive game of snakes and madders and you're going up and you're going up and you're suddenly you just get this snake all the way back to the beginning of the board and you're just like I'm here again. I think social media makes that worse as well like I don't know if you stay in contact with people

on Facebook or social media Instagram and all that can. But they pop up they pop up They pop up via other, like this morning, someone's on their Instagram. She popped up a picture and just in the background, oh, there's my ex. Yep. I have nothing to do with him on social media or anything, but there he is in that picture. It's, yeah, you kind of can't get away.

Absolutely. But the show's really, so the show is not so much about, it's actually about kind of finding yourself again after being with someone for that long as well, like your own sense of identity. And I, about like what this idea of being a strong, independent woman actually is. It's really interesting in the interview two ago you were talking about this idea of like what that actually means and you grow up thinking watching Disney films and being like rom-coms, oh god, am I going to find the one? But are we, I don't think we're in that age anymore really. And it's about like, you know, I wish I'd learned more when I was young that biceps were going to be more useful than boyfriends. You know, when you're like in a house by yourself and you have to like move a heavy house.

Yes. Oh yeah, yeah. I've got that down. Like I can move a full wardrobe. I've carried a washing machine up a flight of stairs. I've moved a lot. Amazing. I have a toolbox.

My boyfriend doesn't. So he'll ask me, like, babe, where's your tools? Yeah, my tools are over there. Would you like some help? He doesn't know how to put up a shelf. No. He can't drive.

I am like the full on man. I love that, though, as well. That's great. I think that's great. And also in the same way, like, that guys are opening up more and becoming more sensitive. Like, I think since we were young and since our parents' generation,

I think that's important. I think it goes in both ways. No, for sure. And if we want equality, yeah, you know, you can have your life. toolbox. And also as well, just for anyone out there, it's not just girls getting the shit end of the stick. I have known so many guys

who have been for a breakup where the girls done the dirty on them or the girls completely ripped all of their self-confidence out. Yeah, of course. Or, you know, it actually flies both ways. Definitely. Specifically what I was interested in as well, though, is this idea of like how we're taught the beauty as value

in a different way than I think men are when you're growing up. And like what that means and especially like, I don't know if you ever have this, but I've got a lot of friends in 20s who are like beautiful beautiful girls who with a lot to offer very talented brilliant careers and yet still like be like I can't leave the house today because I've got a spot yeah yeah yeah oh it's like why like why is there that we're just still valuing yourself on how you look despite having this and this and this and this

yeah yeah kind of thing and like where that comes from and how we start one of combating that the best things that ever happened to me I had a horrific experience with some hair modeling and I went in and I was I needed money so I decided to be paid to be a hair model and they shaved a massive... I remember this well. A massive section of my head and gave me a sort of mullet thing on the other side. So basically the only remedy was to just lob

all my hair off and have a proper crew cut. Like there was nothing. And I went from like long hair to nothing. That sounds amazing. And I realised how much as girls we rely on our hair to like hairography to be sexual to like fiddle with it or put it up or change how you look.

And I suddenly realised I was like, crap, I don't have that anymore. I have any hair. So like, what do I do? I was like, well, you just got to be you and you have to rely on other things like, you know, your personality or maybe, you know, you could put on a sparkly scarf or like you had to, it kind of re,

I think every girl should as a thing. Like you know, you used to go, the kids used to be, I have to go to the army for two years and get a buzz cut and whatever. I think girls, not going to the army, but I think that every girl should cut their hair off at one point in their life just to understand. And now I super value and my hair more,

but like I also don't rely on it entirely. I've been Everyone's got their thing Don't there that they rely on Or that they feel as part of who they are You know Yeah That gets taken away

It's really scary So I think maybe people should Test taking away Or if yeah If you can't leave the house Without makeup Maybe dry and do well away a week When we went to drama school

We couldn't wear makeup We couldn't We couldn't And it was actually probably the best thing In lots of ways Yeah Well it's like they say There's this brilliant woman

called Holly Mandel Who teaches at the groundlings In LA Which is like an improv Mecca and she came over and did she did some talks called Good Girls Aren't Funny and it was a brilliant talking to changed my life and you should check her out

but it's about this idea that like we can't change the world but the revolution starts in here so if you change the way that you think and encourage other people to think that same way and it's about the idea that like when girls grow up would talk to be controlled and well presented and pretty and it's like all these ideas of like you're taught that

that's what will make you valuable but funny being funny is all the opposite of those things because you have to be like rude, outspoken, loud, brash and obnoxious, which is traditionally all the really untractive qualities associated with femininity. And so, like, basically that whole idea is just be, just be loud and brave and, like, get rid of the hair

and find out what's really underneath it. It's underneath the hair. I found I had a very small head as well. I was like, oh, my. You do have a small head. I have a tiny head. Oh, it's adorable, though. I just walked around like a good.

It's a great size. I look like a needle. I was just walking. A little head. There's little peas. I wore a lot of hats. But, yeah, okay. Oh my gosh, we could talk about all day about this.

But guys, if you want to check out Get Ugly, it's going to be in Edinburgh from the second to the 28th. That's the one, yeah? Yeah. And where's it going to be at the underbelly med quad at 5.30 every day. Oh, great. So you can go and watch that

and then go and have a drink or have dinner after. Absolutely. That's a really good time. Thank you so much for coming in. Thanks for having it. Amazing. Oh, my gosh. There's not enough time.

I can talk about it. I can talk about this ever and ever and ever. Okay, I think we're going to have a bit of an energy lift. All right. So I'm going to pay a little song from the Power Rangers movie. All right, we're going to get a little bit. I think I need to move a bit in studio. Purple Power Ranger.

Was that one? Red. No, there isn't. Okay. You can be the Purple Power Ranger, Carla. This is Give It All by Santie Gold from the Power Rangers movie. Usually I like to be in the front. But right now this is Back Row and Chill.

This is Back Row and Chill. That was a nice little second. That's the wrong word? No, that was wrong word. Segway. That works. Okay. You can, aren't those things that you roll along the street on?

And it's when you change a subject, isn't it? Oh. So both are wrong. But well, that's gold star for effort. Yay, playing radio. That was a lie dent from Kent Jones. Very sexy. I love his voice.

Anywho, we are joined by Brad Birch. Welcome. Hello, Brad. Hi, Brad. We're going to be chatting about your play, Black Mountain, because that's going to be up at the Edinburgh. Up at the Edinburgh. Is it the Orange Street as well?

Yeah, so it transfers to the Orange Street. Oh, amazing. That's a fantastic theatre. Yeah, it is, yeah, so good. So it's the Painsplow Festival, the roundabout. So if you're up in Edinburgh and you want to check out, what we're talking about, Painsplow Festival. Yeah, please do.

Say that when you're pissed. The Painsplow has not. Right, so Black Mountain, it's a, it's a, Full-on, it's a full-on play. Hopefully, yeah. Yeah, 70 minutes. And you wrote, is it, have you written plays before? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done it for a few years now.

Oh, it's done loads. Yeah. How did you? It feels like it. So what's, what's Black Mountain about? So what's Black Mountain about, yeah. So it's about a couple who go up to a cabin in the woods to try and sort out a problem in their relationship.

And somebody's done something and it's kind of hurt the other person. Right. They try and kind of... Like a retreat. Trying to get some neutral territory to work the shit out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so away from destruction. Or a bad idea.

Yeah. It's either the best idea in the world or the worst idea in the world. A remote cabin here's where nobody knows what you are. Yeah. Anything could happen. Right. Wow. Okay, so it's Paul and Rebecca.

I'm running away. And how did you get inspired? Did you go to a remote cabin to sort out your problems? No, no, no. No. Oh, are you, Paul? No, no, I'm not Rebecca either. No, why is it set?

So I kind of like to start off ideas with, like, ripping off other people's stuff. We all do. So films like Antichrist, which is a big influence. Films like Don't Look Now, stuff like that. So kind of like tonal atmosphere, those kind of things. Michael Hanuker, you know, the films of Michael Hanuker. And Painsblow asked if I'd like to write a play for them. And they showed me the space.

So the roundabout is a theatre that they take around the country. So it's like collapsible and they drive it to different places. And then they build it anywhere. That's what's going to all these different places. And so I saw the space and I thought that would be conducive to this kind of idea. And just I'm so fascinated by it by writing and writers because I grew up, always writing stories, story, story, story, stories. but I was too terrified to ever say

I write scripts or I write plays because I felt like I just wasn't qualified It's quite exposing I think I know like we're actor Me and Johan actors but you're playing someone else So when you're showing someone I'm an actor But it's quite exposing isn't it

Oh yeah massively About you somewhere in there there's you And you're showing it to people I find that quite scary Yeah Yeah it can be scary But the benefits are you don't work for someone else and that was a big that was a big part like when I was a kid I wanted to be well so

I wanted to be a footballer but I didn't I wasn't I wasn't good enough and I wanted to be an artist I wanted to be David Hockney so I wanted to paint and I wasn't very good at painting and I wanted to want to be a musician and I wasn't very good at music so I kind of slipped into this well slipped into me sound like a coma doesn't it but I just yeah I kind of ended up writing yeah writing plays because I found that fine I fit with it you know but yeah so I wanted to So it's exposing, yeah, but that's kind of what I wanted to. And you're the first winner of the Harold Pinter Commission? No, no, definitely not the first.

Oh, okay. I won it in 2016. I think that's fifth or sixth. Oh, by fringe first. I see that there. Oh. You're the fringe first winner. Not the first.

No, not the first. No, no. Well, congratulations. Thank you. Thanks very much. So it's going to be Black Mountain. So it's a two-hander? No, three-hander.

So there's a third. Do the third person coming right at the end? No, no, they're in it from the... Ruin the surprise, Carla. You kind of don't know when they're... The twist of the whole play! Yeah, thanks for that. Just to cancel the show now.

No, they're kind of in it throughout, but you're not quite sure when they're in it or when they're not. And how involved are you, because obviously if you write a play, then you kind of have to give your baby over to a director and then they give their baby over to the actors. Do you ever feel a little bit like you want to step in and be like, no, Paul should be like this. I think you start off being a bit like that.

Yeah, okay. I think you do kind of get a bit precious. But I've been lucky being able to work with people who are better their jobs than I'm at mine. So you often find that there's stuff that you think, I don't know what to do about that. And they find a solution. You know, that's what I meant.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Nailed it. Well done. This is very exciting. And so have you seen, have you sat in rehearsals or anything? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I like to be about for rehearsals as much as I wanted. And we've had a few previews in Wales.

We went to Thedaddecloid up in North Wales. And so it's been done kind of three times there, four times. I just suddenly remembered. I was like, oh, this is the other side of the coin, because we're actors and we'll have the writer coming in and it makes you really nervous. Because you're like, shit, exactly. The writer's in tonight.

I've got to be amazing. Do you get nervous? Yeah, I do get nervous. I get nervous first day rehearsals for the opposite thing. So when the actors kind of read it and look at it and get nervous. Like, you're always a bit worried that they're going to say... They're going to think it's rubbish. Yeah, what...

Is this shit on purpose? So, yeah, yeah, do get a bit nervous. Do you get a bit nervous. I've got a show that I wrote a few years ago and it's having its first revival in the UK at the moment of the Orange Stream. What plays that? It's a very long title called Even Stillness Brief Softly

Against the Brick Wall and it's part of a director's festival. And I wrote that in that 2012 and I'm going to be seeing that tomorrow. I'm a bit nervous about that because obviously it's one of my first plays. Do you have a favourite play, like a baby, like a favourite child? No. No.

No. What, of my stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. You always get a bit embarrassed, think you once it's finished. Well, I never finished a play. I started many. I can't say myself.

I've started many, but then I'm just like, oh, look, TV. Yeah. Do you have a favourite play, yeah, like outside of your own work? Good. Or a favourite writer? Yeah, favourite writer. It's something like Pinter? Like Pinter, Beckett, Edward Bond.

Beckett. I think my favourite play. Oh, I know. That's too hard. I think it's the Crucible. I think I've always been really drawn to the Crucible. I'm going to say Streetcar named Desire, Tennessee Williams. Really? Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

Very big plays, aren't they? Yeah. Lots of stage directions. I want to play Abigail on the Crucible, I think. Have you not already? No. Oh, well, somebody get for the job. Please!

It's a dream. I'll just put on my own performance. A one woman's show of the crucible. I'll be John Proctor. It'll be great. No, definitely no financing for that coming in any time soon. So we're talking about Black Mountain, just to reiterate. It's going to be at the, well, a Painsplow festival in Edinburgh, but also at the roundabout.

No. So it's at the roundabout. At the roundabout. Which is part of Painsplow. So Painsplow is a company. There we go. The layers of the onion are coming off. So it's at Edinburgh Festival.

It's at Edinburgh. The company's pains plough, and it's in the roundabout. Done. That was it. That's the simple. It was, and I just complicate it. Well, thank you so much for coming in to talk to us. All the best of luck.

It sounds, you know, a tense. So interesting. Tenth psychological thriller, Black Mountain. Thanks very much. Yeah, as soon as she said cabin in the woods, it's like, ooh. I think you've Get Out as well. Yeah, go out. A little bit of inspiration from Get Out?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good movie. That was a great movie. It's very good. I hope this is. okay as well. But there are also positive movies about cabins in the wood. There's a movie called The Shack, where a guy goes to

grieve his child who got murdered and he sorts it all out. Sounds really positive. No, but he goes, he goes up and he meets God and he sorts it all out in the shack. Oh, okay. It's a good movie. It's a good movie too. So, there's positive shacks, and there's scary thriller shacks, so hopefully.

But nothing in between. But nothing, it's either. He's either or. Anyone else who's just booked like a holiday villa for the summer in like the Alps are going to be like, oh shit! so never mind well thank you so much for coming in

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I'm going to put it out there. A huge welcome to our final guest of this show. We've got Richard Sparks in the studio. So welcome, welcome, welcome. Hello, Richard. And we're going to be talking about Margarita Dreams, which is your new show. It is, yes.

Amazing. Just to give a little bit of a backstory, because if people might have seen some of your other works, you wrote the schoolmaster sketch for Rowan Atkinson. Roanakins. Which is one of my... Oh, oh, oh, crackly. What's some crackling, crackle-hackle-h.

We're going to swap mics over. Make her go away. She's crackling. I think, yeah. So, Rowan Atkinson did a... He did an amazing stand-up piece called The Schoolmaster. And it's one of the best things.

I found it on YouTube a few years ago. And it was just brilliant. And it sort of, even though it was so many, when was that? 19... 1970. 978, I wrote it for Rowan. Yeah.

You remember it well, of course. His first London show was at the Hampstead Theatre, and he was asked to do it. It ended up in the show with Peter Wilson, who'd been my sketch writing and acting part. I'd never been an actor, but when I was a student. Summer holidays. And Elspeth Walker,

and the only other writer on the show was Richard Curtis, apart from the cast. And so, I'd, you know, met Ray, Rowan in Edinburgh in 76. And when it all came up, they asked me to write. I thought I'd better write something for the new guy. I mean, I couldn't, you know, I'd written for Peter and for El Smith before. And Rowan and Richard had written together.

But I thought, well, I can't try something. So I just sat down and started writing lists of silly names. And then I thought, well, that's good. Now I need a sketch. So I typed it up and gave it to Rowan. And he sort of grung through. He sort of smiled and walked off. It's brilliant.

I thought, oh, well, you didn't say no. So that's good. And then the next day, he did it to an empty room. and it was just unbelievable that he just filled a room with invisible ghastly English schoolboys. I mean, everybody... Everyone should go on to YouTube

and just type in Rowan-Ackson Schoolmaster and it's brilliant. It's basically him doing a sort of an assembly to the audience and he's literally reading off a list of names and it's hilarious. It's so brilliant.

It's a list of names followed by some other stuff but the thing about it is that really is a case of going out there and unknown and coming back a start. John Cleese saw the show in, excuse me, in Hampstead. And I got a call from Rome about four months later

saying John Cleese has asked me to be in his new charity show and can I do the schoolmaster? So I said, you bet. So we met up in a pub. Yeah. The captain's cabin at the top of Haymarket there. I mean, he'd have been mobbed now if you went there. Yeah.

Shoveled off down there. And then, you know, going through the artist entrance. And first thing you see Pete Townsend wandering past with the guitar. And then he was to cook and all the pythons are there. and you'd go, what? Everyone's famous in that part. And there's me sitting the audience going, wow. And nobody knew who he was.

Yeah. And he came out into this room, and there was some of muted applause, and he just absolutely nailed it. I mean, if you watch his timing in that. And please watch the original. Years later, Rowan wrote a rude version with, and shared the royalties with me because it's my idea.

Oh, okay. Very generous. But see the original, because that's the one that I wrote. So say it again, what do we type in on YouTube? Schoolmaster sketch, Ron. Schoolmaster sketch by Rowan Atkinson. And that's amazing because then you like really kicked. So basically really, when I talk real,

you kicked off Rowan Atkinson which then made Mr. Bean. So we can thank you for Mr. Bean. But it's all good at running circles. I mean, Rowan was so good at physical comedy. I've been writing and script fixing a lot of sitcoms. You know, when it's not good that producer

us to fix it so you don't get credit for it. You're called a script doctor. Script doctor, yeah. And I call those producers Mr. Mortgage because they paid the rent. Credits are relevant. But Rowan was so good at physical

comedy, I thought, let's do it was an action comedy. So I created a show called The Optimist, which was the first comedy ever done on Channel 4. Rowan couldn't do it because by then he was busy and famous and blah, blah, blah. He liked the script, but he was busy, so we had to get another actor

who turned out to be the world's most brilliant mimic Enrightel, and he's doing silent comedy. And anyway, unfortunately, Optimism was bad. I really was, it kind of broke my heart. Then Rowan did it a couple of years later. I'm not it, but you know, I mean, I wrote silent comedy

because he'd inspired me to do it. Yeah. I love physical. And then he gets it from Mr. Bean. It's just brilliant. So I'm looking at that going, that's what we would have, oh, I wouldn't, you know. Do you know what? That's what, so I make a comedy sketches online. Do you do? Yeah.

And I have quite a big following and I make sort of weekly, funny videos. And I, and I actually call it, I'm Mr. Bean it if I'm doing it a certain way, I go, do I need to say that line or can I do it with physical comedy? You do a lot of physical comedy. So I do a lot of it to music and

I just call the technique Mr Bean in it. I love it and if I can. And it also means that the comedy can translate, you can go global because I've got lots of fans from all around the world or even friends that I have from other countries like Italy or France, they're like yeah, we watch Mr Bean, why? Because there was no

anyone who wants to. Yeah, exactly. A physical comedy is really important. We've got Quite a lot of physical comedy and Margarita Dreams, which is nice. But, you know, if you give a great actress a redundant line, you give Merrill Streep a line like, would you like a cup of coffee? She'll just say, do I need to say this? Can I just give me a coffee? And physical action, you know, I had a second, not a career,

but a phase a few years ago exploring the poker boom. And I wrote a couple of books about poker, which is how we end up owning a bar in Las Vegas. Oh, wow. You guys are going to come to. Throw that one in there. It's my pride and joy. So in the poker world, I studied body language.

I got some body language experts to talk to me. I heard from them that 60% of communication is nonverbal. So you see people walking down the street, waving their arms, talking to somebody in Australia. I mean, they can't see your hands, but without the hand gestures, your voice doesn't make the same noises. True, yes. Well, we are on radio right now.

And linking physical. My face is going crazy. Yeah, I do that. I gesticulate. It's very funny. So you've written Margarita Dreams, and this is for sort of a new, well, the new up-and-comers,

so you did the same for... Well, you know, the last Edinburgh review I did was in 1976, and... Oh my God, how long have we got? A little while, yeah, you can... Well, I knew Irving Wardle from the Times was coming, and the review never came out

until I was driving home in the middle of the night. My partner had to go off to director play in Belgium, his first job, The car exploded outside Ecole Fecken. He had to hitchback to Glasgow. I slept in the car. I opened the bonnet the next morning. I'm okay, this is that.

And a hitchhiked down to Wales where I was working on Welsh television. Two lovely old hippies pick me up in a Morris Minor. We stopped for gas. I mean, sorry, I live in... Gas. I live in Los Angeles. I do apologize. Stop for gas. We stopped for petrol.

Found a copy of the Times. And in it was this review from Irving Wardle going, you couldn't have written it. But I'm thinking, I could have done with this last week. The show's over. we've gone but Edinburgh I just remember it's been

incorrect just everywhere you looked it was great so it's going to be weird things happen and just I'm really excited

to be going back yeah it's up in Edinburgh it's going to be it's going to be at the underbelly ermendrude that's what that's a weird thing to say

um how does it umbendrude ermandrew ermitrude I think um I love it it says well the tagline one of the taglines

here is funny where nine margaritas can take you oh yeah well yes Exactly. I don't think I've ever been able to have nine margaritas. I'm such a lightweight.

This kid, he's such a good actor. He does it every day. Two o'clock, nine margaritas drink. Oh, because, well, a few weeks ago, we did, we had, um, we had, um, that was what we call a reversal. We had a company called shit-faced Shakespeare come in, and they actually get drunk. Oh, they get wasted, didn't they? Yeah, yeah, and they do it every night.

One member of the cast will get absolutely. and do the show and apparently like the most hilarious stuff comes out improv every night obviously okay so there's not an actual nine margaritas we can be safe to say there's four great kids I've been writing it for we've been rehearsing for a few weeks now

we've had our preview on a couple of days ago at the Fortune Theatre which went really well, got great feedback yeah and you're going to go on the road? I did a couple rewrites last night and head for any of it tomorrow it's been a blast and so the how did you find you forecast

did you have them in mind or? No, completely my accident. I was here in November, the day before going back to L.A., and my best friend's wife, who's also my best friend, said my niece wants to become an actress, what would you advise? So I've done a lot of work in L.A. and stuff. I said, well, I'll talk to her if she was.

Six o'clock that evening. She was there at the door. Yeah. A good sign, right? Yeah. So I said, look, there's only really one reason to be an actor, and that's if you really, really, really have to be. And her whole face changed.

She just got it. All right, I'm off to the races. Nothing else matters. So she wanted to do two things. One, get into drama school because she just left college. She was 21 at the time. And two, learn.

So we started, I said, look, all right, we'll do some stuff by Skype. We did scene study, cold readings, Shakespeare. She did, she was brilliant. Elizabeth Bennett, in Pride and Prejudice, with an English actor being Darcy, Jonathan Reed on one side, and she being Elizabeth Bennett, Bella Spate.

And two of them knocking lumps out of each other. Darcy and Elizabeth Bennett, Skyping, each other. So, you know, she's got the attitude. A modern day. Oh, you've just given me a ting, you've just given me an idea. I should do like a social media pride and prejudice. Absolutely. Well, I want

to write a play for these two called prejudice and pride about two asshole actors having to be... Yeah. So they get to play two parts, the actor and the character behind it. Yeah. That's a double, double. But I think I'm busy that day. I'm like it. I love that. Anyway, so I wrote a stand-up routine

for her to do in a pub in Somerset. So she says no fear. She just does it. Wow, she's got balls. Her friend called up. I said, well, look, why don't you do Edinburgh? And she said, well, that's amazing. My friend Sophie just called up yesterday and said, let's do Edinburgh. And they had their eyes on two guys, so I just said, well, what are you going to do?

And they said, well, I just started writing. It all came out in about two weeks. Organically fell out. And I hadn't written sketch comedy for years. It's such fun to do it because I spent last year writing 600 pages of a TV series. Oh, wow. Which was really complicated plotting because it's, it's, it's, Very, very difficult.

The story goes for 10 hours. There's arcs and things and leaving stuff open and lots going on. It just disappears up its own backside every few pages. It's good fun. And if you want the recipe for the perfect margarita, it's up on our website. Oh, always. This would be an amazing show. You go and have a margarita.

And go watch the show. So if you are in Edinburgh this year, and you want to get a little bit merry on the margaritas. Go check out. Go check out Margarita dreams. Margaritas on me, everyone. Oh, you heard it here first. No, no, no, we're live. We're live. I'm afraid, Richard.

Terribly sorry. Sorry, I'm nearly dead. Well, thank you so much for coming in. Thank you. Absolutely. Are you going to be up in Edinburgh, you guys? You're coming up there? I'm not coming up this year. Possibly.

I'm not in anything, unfortunately. I'm just going to go and get drunk. But I might go and watch. Hope for the best. If I come up, I'll definitely come and watch this. Definitely. Good, because it's 50 minutes of light-hearted fun. 50 minutes of fun.

Perfect. What more could you want? Right, we're going to go. for what I'm going to do, what we'll do. I'm going to go back to Cry Baby, the original soundtrack I was talking about at the beginning of a show, because this is the song called Cry Baby from the movie, Cry Baby.

And I do love it. This is back crying and chill. It's just gone 5.30, which means it's time for film review. So, a huge world. Which means I'm here. Which means Lisa Fathers is in the building. Hi Lisa. Lucy. Lucy.

Oh, hi. Terrible. Same difference. No, she was just talking to Lisa about... Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. My friend, Lisa. It's what she calls her vagina. Yeah.

So we can do that. Hello down there. Right, so this is film review time. The time where we talk about what is, what we think is great, what we've been looking at, watching on either on the internet or TV. I've got a bit of theatre this week because I'm lovely What has everybody been watching

They've been loving or hating Well I went to a screen in this week Or yesterday actually A film called England is mine Oh I saw a poster for that today It is the Morrissey by Opio Oh yes And yeah

I really want to see that Do you know what It was a really really good film But Oh You have to know your musical history To be able to appreciate it The writer and director

and director, he has really limited his audience by doing that, I think. But then I think maybe it's his baby, that's what he wanted to do with it. It's basically from Morris's late teens to the moment that the Smiths are born, you know. But it's not obvious that these people are who they are, like Johnny Marr is in it. Now, unless you know of the Smiths and you know of Johnny Marr, you're not going to know who they're talking about. No, no. Not at any point do they play any Smith songs or any Morris' name. music or

mention anybody's surname, you know, to make sure that you get the record show. They don't feed it easily to you. You really need to be a fan and it's... That's a shame, actually. It is a shame because it's a really well-made, lovely vintage film with that indie feel that's just amazing and I absolutely loved it. You know, I got those sparks of recognition

because I know my music, you know. Using it to feed the next generation. They should, really, and they haven't. It's such a shame. I mean, unfortunately, I wouldn't. say run out to the cinema and go and see it, but if you are a music fan and you've been brought up well on the right music, you know, and you appreciate

the British heritage of music and where it came from, then go and see it and you will, you'll get, it will make you feel like you're in on something that nobody else is, you know, and there was a lot of people there last night that had the same spark of recognition as me. I could hear them sort of tittering

in the background, you know, when something was mentioned and, I mean, the end of it, to me, it made my heart swell, but nobody, people who don't know about the Smiths and about Johnny Marr and how it happened will go there? Who's in it? Why the fuck is it just in it now, you know? Yeah, who's in it?

Jack Loudon. Okay. He was in Dunkirk. He was the fire pilot who ditched. I haven't seen that yet. I haven't seen Dunkirk yet. Yeah. Okay.

He's very, very good. Not very well known, anybody in the cast, to be honest. But we'll be now, yeah, because of Dunkirk. And hopefully because of this as well, because he did such a good job. Who's the girl in it? Do you know, I don't actually know her know. Because I remember seeing the post too. There's Angie who is just a fictional person

and there is Linda. I can't remember her surname but they're actually still friends now. I saw a poster for it and I recognised the girl's name. Yeah. It's actually in front of my face. I'm going to Google the poster for it. So it's called Made in England. England is mine.

Oh, no, that's a different thing. That's a lyric from a Smith song, I think. England is mine. Yeah. Okay. We're going to Google that poster right now. is amazing. Jessica Finley Brown.

Oh yes. Jessica Brown, Finley. Why can't anyone get anyone's name right today? We're all dyslexing. Actually, yeah. Linda Sterling

and she is a real life person. Okay. But yeah, if you want to be in on it like everybody else and you know the Smith and you're a fan, then go and see it.

You really will enjoy it. But otherwise, I won't really bother. It's more independent. It's a shame. It's a shame for the writer and director who took so much time and obviously loved it so much. It's

wholly his baby and I just think oh mate you've really cut off people out here share it, come on. Share it. Yeah. Sharing is caring. So yeah, find it if you can when it comes out but you know. I went, I didn't actually have a lot of time to go and see anything completely coming out of the cinema. I had plans that didn't

happen but I did go and see because it's my birthday I got to pick my mum was like, what show do you want to go and see? So I got to go see West End and I said I really want to see a comedy about a bank robbery because I've gone to see the play that went wrong four times. Oh, have you?

That many times? Yeah. Cool. Not all the time I've been paying. But yeah, I've gone to see it with friends and family four times, I think three or four times. And it's absolutely hysterical. It's the same company, mischief theatre company, have made a comedy about bank robbery. Nice.

And it's the similar style, similar jokes, but this one is way more wacky. And it's, I would probably say it's like, it's set in the 50s. is, that's what it is, it is a play about a bank robbery. Because that's always hilarious. Yeah, and it's just brilliant in the scenes that they set up and it's very slapstick and it's very punny.

So I would say almost similar to like airplane. Nice, nice. But on it as a show, really high energy. Because it's set in the 50s, they do really amazing set changes. And the set changes are all, they're all singing live doo-op songs, which is very heavily inspired me today. Yeah, I can't.

And so they say, and all of the performers in the show have the most amazing voices and they all get to sort of showcase it on different scene changes and it's just it's like a standard farce, brilliant

kind of yeah and the main actors who are in it well actually everybody even the small people they keep coming back as character changes and costume change they have constant costume changes some of the puns are just brilliant for an example I was trying to I got home and I was just raving about it to my boyfriend

and you didn't really understand I was like so funny in the December oh you had to be in there you had to be in there to be there is a scene where there's a girl and she has all these boyfriends, she's called Cherise, and she's got all these boyfriends basically just to pay her way through life. She's like a girl digger.

Good girl. So she's got one of the old people home, another one, you know, like one that's German and stuff. And so she finds this new guy and she brings him back for like a one night stand in the 50s. It's a really hilarious moment when she brings him back. And then, knocks on the door,

her boyfriend who just got out of prison arrived. And so he's like, quick, quick, go hide over there in the cupboard above the bed and so then the boyfriend from prison comes out and he's trying to like get it on with her and she's trying to say no no no he's like why you made me wait two years we're doing it now and she's like okay and then the guy's trying to like make out with the prison boyfriend and the other

boyfriend is trying to get out of the across them cross the bed to get to the door to go out oh my god and this is amazing he accidentally touches the prison guy's bum oh my and the guy stops and he goes oh it's been it's been two two years since I've heard your touch touch me more he's like massage me

and the guy and there's just this hilarious moment this guy's having to like and then he's like spank me and this guy's having to like spank the boyfriend it's brilliant and everyone everyone in the

audience was just like pissing laughing there's so many silly puns it's just like a really fun silly night out so the comedy about bank robbery it is in I think it's the criterion theatre

Piccadley Circus it is brilliant and it's really good it's a good laugh And I also went to, and I've seen all three because they also did a Christmas version of Peter Pan What Goes Wrong? Brilliant. So they tried to do a production of Peter Pan

and that all went to shit. I'm pretty sure that they actually recorded and put that on the BBC, so maybe in the BBC archives you can have a look at that without having to... Yeah, without having to go to the theatre. I saw, actually, it was a couple of weeks ago, I saw the Whitney film, the bookie documentary. Do you know, I haven't seen it? What was it like?

Well, I'm a very big fan of Rini. like real big that's always the test isn't it if you are really a fan and to be honest it was good yeah but I wanted to cry really and I didn't oh okay one of them

so you didn't really feel it like you're supposed to I felt it but I didn't feel it enough you know yeah and it was it was very it was very sad but I just wanted a bit more bit more like like devastation right in the gut like really yeah devastate yeah I know I mean incredibly talented and obviously very sad or haven't

but there was some chunk, some meat missing from it, you know? If you, because I saw that film and I interviewed the director. Did you? Yeah. For the show, yeah, yeah. And it was amazing because the way that film came about was found footage of that guy who was basically vlogging. Before vlogging was even a thing, they vlogged the Whitney tour.

So that's how they got the footage. It was some guy with a cat, I had it before it was a thing. Yeah, exactly. So he got exclusive access to Whitney. so if you are a Whitney fan you're going to go and see things you'll never see. Yeah you see things you never see

absolutely. And they intermix the vlogging footage with her interview footage and just how crazy, although she was having like crazy personal problems, even in her interview she came across was really grounded and really kind of level and held.

Yeah, held. Talking about how like fame doesn't make money and fame doesn't bring you happiness. And not necessarily, you know. Yeah. What is it? It can bring you,

can bring you like power and prestige or whatever but can't bring you happiness you cannot pay for happiness absolutely not which was yeah there was some very pointed moments from that film I did like that I'd see if you're a fan of Whitney

yeah there was a film that I saw a few weeks ago that was about to come out this week called The Big Sick Oh that looks really good She's seen it as well It's supposed to be really good It's really good It is really good

And I don't like the poster though Yeah they The poster makes it look like really really bad roncom A cheesy Roncom fair the title also does it know for the title and whoever did the title and like the PR

get fired yeah stop it not bye yeah not working but the actual movie's brilliant and it brings up I think really really good sort of interracial intercultural dating it deals with it so well it's just amazing it's such a good film and I had the massive honour of going to interview

the main girl from it Zoe she's so funny she's so good she's brilliant if you love her you will love this movie. It's just so charming and it's lovely. So I popped down and had a little chat with her and that was amazing. I'm going to play that now.

Lovely. So this is all about the big sick. The movie's coming out. I'm going to find out the release date but I'm pretty sure it's like next week. Something like that. Here we go. The movie was amazing. So I'm so excited to meet you.

Thank you. Just for our listeners who are like the big sick because the title I thought was quite, that was the only thing that I thought was bit odd about the movie because I didn't feel like it's sold what it was. What is the movie about? I don't think you're alone with the title. You know, I think sometimes temporary titles stick and no one can come up with anything better.

Yeah. I think that's how you end up sometimes also with posters that don't necessarily speak to everything in the film. This movie's based on the true story of this comedian, Kumail Nanjiani and his wife, Emily Gordon. They wrote it, and Kumail's playing himself in it. And it's about the beginning of their relationship when they were sort of falling in love.

and his family is Muslim and still expected him to marry a Muslim girl. And right as they were sort of trying to work that out between themselves, she got very, very sick. And that is sort of the launching pad for the film. The unusual thing about this film, obviously, it's sort of an independent story. It should be all wrapped up in the one thing. However, I left the cinema going,

I really want to find out what happens when Emily goes home. I really wanted the story to continue. Because I think that the film brings up some massive issues. that we are starting to really address about cross-culture, racism. Obviously, Emily's entering into an Arab family, which one thing for me, when I went into the cinema, I was like, oh my gosh, this is my life. My boyfriend's from Muslim family.

I'm kind of going through the same thing. Wow. Exactly. And then there's the scene when you were saying that, well, Emily was married before, so was I. And he spat my drink out. I was like, oh my God, this is my life. I've accidentally walked into a movie about my life.

Wow. So I think, but it's so cool to see that on the screen and get people talking because they bring up some like really major issues like immigration as well like bringing moving to a different country and then which how much should you absorb that new country's culture and leave your own? And it's like oh it was you can talk about the film

for ages afterwards. So I kind of want to see a sequel. Would you ever do a sequel? I mean if they thought of something that was a good story, yeah, sure. I loved working with these guys. I'm glad you responded to it like that. I think there are things in it.

which make it, it's particularly sweet to bring a movie about the immigrant experience out into the world right now and to bring one about the Muslim American experience into the world right now and have it be like a very sympathetic and empathic portrayal. The other thing I'd say is like the, I think a lot of people look at the movie as being political because of what the timing in bringing it out, but this story really happened 10 years ago and was written before some of the elections of the last year. Yeah. So, you know, I would say I think that I think the movie's like seeking above all else to entertain and it's coming with its arms wide open. And even if your listeners feel politically to the right, I think that they might get a lot out of the film.

Oh, for sure. I was so like emotionally overwhelmed by it. It was great. I was like, I need to have a cup of tea. So what's next for you? Can you talk about any of your next projects? Yeah, I wrote a play and that's. That's going to go up in New York off Broadway in the fall. So as soon I'm going to have to switch hats. How do you feel about live versus film? This is my fourth play I've written. And I really do think from an acting standpoint that it's where I've learned the most

because you have to be responsible for your own performance. On a movie set, there's always going to be like ADR to fix any lines that you want to change or the editor and director and director are really creating your performance. you're just giving them options. So it's not really yours. And being on stage, you really have to learn how to take care of yourself and tell a story. And I definitely feel like I'm a better actor

for having done as many plays as I have. But I, you know, I grew up loving the cinema and that's what made me want to be an actor in the first place. So it was always going to have a special place in my heart. For sure. The worst stage fright I had was, I was doing, you guys had a production here of the Seagull that moved to Broadway.

And when it moved to Broadway, I took over for one of the actresses who'd been here. And I was playing Masha, and she sort of starts the second half of the play. There's a big scene for her. And our lighting board that controls the lights, the light the stage crashed in our intermission, and they couldn't get it working again. And so they said, you're going to have to go on with house lights. We show the lights in the audience. And so I went out on stage, and I had been so confident in that scene,

getting like exit applause every night. And I looked out and saw like, you know, a thousand people and completely blanched. Like I've never been more afraid in my life. I felt like my voice suddenly couldn't carry and my palms were sweaty and my timing was all off. And the light board came back on as soon as I exited the stage. So I was the only one really subjected to it. You're like, damn it. Yeah.

And I really felt like, oh, the darkness is my friend. Like it's the thing that allows me to do this because I'm not a good. good public speaker and I'm not shy but I'm not particularly excited about you know presenting my body for everyone's inspection every time I step on stage yeah well I bet weirdly probably um that was probably one of your best performances because you would have been like not aware of it I definitely think it was not one of my best performances I think I was I was too afraid to do my job properly um but uh you know think they make the best stories as well the stuff that goes wrong.

You could be having a drink later. You'd be like, well, guess what, guys? The light board went down. It's definitely the one I remember. Well, thank you so, so much, Zoe. Everyone go and see the film The Big Sick because it's bloody brilliant. Thank you so much.

She was the sweeter. She sounds so lovely. A little button. Yeah. Squeezer. And you just dropped the bomb. She's going out of Paul Danno. Yeah.

Who is like, he's one of those people where he's like, he's not attractive, but he's attractive. Yeah, he's got something. He hasn't known. It's like, I'm not attracted to you. Yeah. But I'm also a little bit attracted to you. Yeah.

It's very weird. I think maybe it's the talent thing. Yeah. Probably just because he's really good. Yeah. He's very mysterious. He's, isn't it? He's very good.

Bit of an odd bowl. He's very good in Okja. On Netflix. I still haven't managed to get through there. Oh my God. I'm scared that I'm not going to want to eat chicken anymore. Well, yeah. I watched it and I became a veggie.

Exactly. Well, I'm a vegan. Yeah. Vegan rules. Oh, you need a t-shirt, babe. Yes. She didn't tell me she's a vegan I bought a chocolate for a birthday

Whoopsy Whoopsy! Right, a little bit about what's coming out because I was researching today And we, because next week On the August is when Netflix drops So there's a new movies So some of the ones that were coming out

What I recognised was A Cinderella Story, Cloud Atlas, Practical Magic, Sleepy Hollow All three Matrix movies Are gonna be on Netflix. Are gonna be on Netflix. Brilliant news. Yeah, so I'm gonna be excited

You know when you feel like you've literally done Netflix? You've watched it, oh, and you're like, no, what else is you? I don't know, though. Sometimes I feel like there's too much choice. Turned up watching nothing. Yeah. Or I start something with five minutes, it's not that good. Try this.

It's not that good. See, this is the problem we talked about earlier with dating. When there's too much choice. Or you feel like you can always swap over. Yeah, because I have that. I'm looking for the thing, the one. The one movie that's going to just instantly gratify you. And sometimes you've got to get into a movie.

You've got to give it a chance. You've got to sit there and let it smolder on. Cook something up. Warm you up. Earlier in the show we also talked about foot fetishes because a lot of people message me asked to see my feet on my social media They're so gross

And so we did a Twitter poll saying people have been asking Johanna James to send pictures of her feet How weird do you think that is At the moment we've got zero percent for oo gross Which is weird Who are these people? 20% say can I get a photo

Oh my 40% say put some socks on And 40% think Mmm cheesy I mean yeah Zero percent think is gross Come on, guys. Oh, really?

Please let me have a bit more. What is it wrong with you? A bit of faith and humanity. I have some movie trivia. I've been trying to let people know about for a few weeks now, and we've always run out of time. Oh, I love this stuff. So, right, I thought you would like it, Lucy, so I thought I'd save it for you.

But, right, so here's my movie trivia of the week. The guitar used in Mad Max, the recent one, weighed 132 pounds and was gas-powered. Wow. And it was an actual spurted fire. That wasn't CGI. Wow. It was activated by the guitar's

Whammy Bar and gas powered and it shot out all the flames. Right. So a 16-year-old Robert Downey Jr. got suspended from high school for ripping up a classmate's Iron Man comic and calling him a nerd. That is irony. Wow.

Isn't that irony? That is real irony. But I mean, it works out really well for him. It really did. It really did. Wow. What do I get out of this? You could have signed my Iron Man.

He should send him like a proper signed original Robby. You should, shouldn't it? Step up, Robert, down to do you. So, I Am Legend, the movie poster, in I Am Legend,

there was a movie poster for Batman versus Superman. Yes, it's like a big... Yeah, in the background, which was before Batman and Superman was a thing, because the writer of I Am Legend also wrote an early draft of that movie.

I only spotted that, probably about two or three weeks ago and I watched it. I'd never ever even noticed it before, and I've seen that film a lot. It's a weird little, like, freaky future. How mad? Is there number two?

Of I am legend? Number two, I'm sure I'm. read that? Is there? Iron Legend 2. I don't know. So I don't want to get a hopes up. I'm going to say, well, the end of the last one really doesn't give you much to. Oh, I'm sure I read that. There's two endings to Iron Legend. If you watch the DVD, you've got

the original ending and you've got the cinema ending. One's nice than the other one. Oh, yeah. Oh, just a bit. In Assassin's Creed, the 125 foot free-fool stunt was the highest free-full stunt for 35 years in cinema history. So the guy... That was pretty breathtaking, actually.

himself off 120. I mean, being able to do that, 125 foot free fall. You got a bit of a nutcase, really, but it looked amazing. No wires or anything. In the Batman, the original series in 1966, Robin exclaimed

holy, and then something, 365 times. There are only 120 episodes. So you can sort of do the math and see how many times he goes like, holy bananas. Holy, nolly. And like, it just got ridiculous. So he had to pick up. 300 something else

yeah 365 random things wow in Star Wars I didn't know this I'll pick the oven every single Star Wars movie includes a line that says

I have a bad feeling about this really yeah and I've seen I'm not a Star Wars and I've seen it on on YouTube they've like clicked together all of the so even in the modern films

Harrison Ford says it in the recent one but everyone goes I have a bad feeling about this I was like well listen to your feelings you guys if everyone can Watch the other films.

It's the force. It's probably the force. That's what you're feeling. In Alien, Sigourney Weaver actually made the backwards basketball shot. Wow. That appears in the movie. It was a total fluke. Really? She chucked it back and it landed in and it was take, done. It was a complete accident.

Wow. It's so good. Because people were saying it's phenomenal because even like professional basketball players from that far away couldn't have done that. She just chucked it and it was just one of those. Serendipity. Amazing. And Saving Private Ryan, the opening scene

cost 12 million out of the 70 million budget for the film. So majority chunk, massive chunk of that. Very well done, though. Maha. In Kill Bill,

Oren tells the bride that she won't last five minutes in a fight, and their fight sequence is exactly four minutes, 59 seconds. Wow. That's a good fact. Quentin Joe Tino is like sneaky,

sneaky, I know. Sneaky McSnegers in. In Lord of the Rings, Frodo falls over 29 times. Your feet, for God's say. I think he's my spirit animal. Yeah, he is.

He's so in Jason Bourne, the first movie, Matt Damon speaks 45 times. Really? Is that it? That's it. Mainly, and he says things like, let's get out of here.

Wow. And things like that. Excellent. Which brings me to my final one. Let's get out of here is the most common film phrase used. Let's get out of here. in cinema history.

And again, I've seen a thing on YouTube but they just cut together all these movies. And it is, it's there. Who does that? Who sits there and does that? I'm grateful, but who's it sound like that? Total nerds and I love all of them.

Yes, me too. Amazing. This is amazing. And also, oh, well, total more, I've got to get them in because they're just amazing. So in Fight Club, there is a Starbucks cup

in every scene of the movie. I knew that one, and I don't know how. There is a Starbucks cup in the background, somewhere in a teenyy thing there's a little Starbucks club. Fight Club sponsored by Starbucks.

Yep. And finally, Stephen Spielberg, has been thanked more times than God at the Oscars. Stephen Spielberg has been thanked 42 times and God has been thanked 19 in acceptance speeches. Quite rightly, I would say. In my world, anyway. So Stephen Spielberg. Stephen Spielberg, God.

Yeah. It's like thanked more than God. Brilliant. Like double the amount of time. Oh my gosh. That is the end of the show. That's all we've got time for this week. Thank you so much, Carla. Thank you very much. It's been super fun. But, but, but, but. His birthday is it tomorrow?

His birthday is it? It's Johannes. It's a happy birthday to you, Johanna. So I'm going to play happy, well, I'm going to get Stevie Wonder to think we have a birthday right now. Oh, it's back crunch. I'll see you guys next week. If you enjoyed this podcast, please don't forget to rate and review us on iTunes.