Back Row and Chill with Jahannah James and Noel Clarke - Stay Home Special Series - Episode 7 - Doc Brown, Justin Kelly, Alexander Bodin Saphir and Liam Gavin

Episode Date: October 10, 2016

The King is back! Noel Clarke was in the studio with Jahannah James. They chatted to Alexander Bodin Saphir, the co-director and producer of the documentary 'Who's Gonna Love Me Now?'. Liam Gavin, the director of 'A Dark Song', was on the line with Noel and Jahannah. Jahannah also chatted to the director and screenwriter of 'King Cobra', Justin Kelly. Doc Brown in the studio, discussed press junkets and working with Ricky Gervais.

This is a Fubar Radio podcast. Go to Fubaradio.com for more details. Back row and chill with Johanna James and North Club. On Fubar Radio. Hello, good afternoon, evening. What is it? Lord Jesus, I'm back in this motherfucker. In the building!

Yes! I've missed you. You've been away. We've been travelling the world. You know how I roll. I know, you've been off. Off, man. You've been holding the fort.

You've been doing brilliantly. I've been holding it down. Holding it down, I know. Seriously, I think I've just about got control of these buttons now. And now I'm here to fuck it all over again. Yeah, exactly. Great. Great.

So how have you been? Where have you been? I've been in Toronto, film festival. Not watching any films, although I should have seen loads. You look great, by the way. What the fuck's been going on here? You look fantastic. I think I would dive my hair, did my nails.

Fantastic, yeah. And then I was in Dublin filming something secret. I can't tell you. Zoe saw Donna. Yeah, yeah. Check my Instagram, guys, and the whole clock. And then, you know, wheeling and dealing, man. Producing shit and doing stuff.

And now I'm back. Yeah, you're back. everyone. Well, we've had a great couple of shows where I am glad that you're back with us. If you've got any questions for Noel, please just tweet in at Fubar Radio or email Chill at Fubaradio.com.

Yeah, what she said. We'd like to hear from you. We've got a really jam-pack show today. I don't really care about hearing about you, but send them in a way. I want to hear from the people. I like the people. I love the people too, but I'm indifferent. And we've never got jam-pack show today. We've got some pretty cool guests. We've got Dot Brown coming in again. Don't brown up in this motherfucker. He came in before,

but we didn't get to give him the full amount of airspace I'd like to give the doctor of Brown so he's coming in we've also got the directors of film who's gonna love me now it's playing at the oh have you seen it I have seen it

I've done some homework bitch you've done your homework 10 points do you yeah we've got I've got two new games I'm gonna play with you fantastic and doc because I've got a new game

to play with you that I learned into Ronald as well okay let's play I'm intrigued so yeah it's gonna be a great show stay tuned. I think we're going to go to our first song, so we're going to start off. Do it. It's Friday night. So let me see which one I want to go for. I'm going to go for a bit Ray Charles. Okay, go for Ray Charles. Which was, I saw a film this week. It's an old school VHS film.

This is a film show, so hopefully you've been seeing the dream team. Have you ever seen that? Okay, it's Michael Keaton and Christopher Waltz. No, not Christopher Walts. No, Christopher Waltz, got it right. Christopher Walts? No, no, no. Christopher Walken? Chris The guy who plays the doc in Matt's the future

Oh, yes, what's his name? Christopher Lloyd. That's the one, Lloyd. I know it's a Christopher. Yeah, so it's them. It's an old 80s, like, classic, and it's a fantastic film about four mental patients who, they go on a day trip to a basketball game

or baseball game even in the 80s and they lose their doctor, they lose their carer and they go on this. I think I've seen that here. Oh, they've got a great soundtrack and it really inspired me. There you go, guys. This is a film show, what we do educate you about things.

Exactly. So let's get a bit, Rachel. I'll start the show, and we're going to be back with our first guest on Back Row and Chill. Don't you go on the back and no more. Love that tune. So, what was your highlight for Toronto Film Festival? Well, Toronto Film Festival, obviously, one of the biggest festivals in the world. We had Brotherhood out there, obviously. Brotherhood was in the festival, did very, very well,

and really showed that, you know, you always hear that these films don't play to international audience, but actually had a very big audience out there. We filled three screenings of a thousand seats. And United Kingdom was there as well. You met Emma a few weeks ago, and Arnold was with us. And essentially, you know, Toronto, for those guys who don't know, this is a film show, as I keep reminding you, for those guys. Toronto, one of the biggest film festival, celebrates films for all around the world.

They get entered in. You get to see loads of different films. I didn't see any, because I was working doing loads of meetings. But essentially, it was a really, really great festival. and anyone who's wanting to work in film if you ever get into film, I think Toronto is definitely the festival to visit. And right now we have London Film Festivalers on.

Yeah, it's cracking on. Like, I go past the embankment, they're building this massive cinema on the embankment to show all the films, and I can see it being erected. I bet you can see it being erected. It doesn't surprise me, Joanna. Right, did you know,

did you know that yesterday at the London Film Festival, the BFI released a whole bunch of stats from their program, Black Star, about diversity? and anyone who hasn't seen that should look at screen international links and look at that. But the news was it talked about black actors that had led films. And, you know, in the top ten films that feature black actors, three of my films are in there. And also, the actor, the black actor who's been in the most leading roles in this country, they called him prolific of all time, is me.

Weirdly, how fucked is that? Prolific me? Yeah, well, see, I don't know whether to be proud because it's me or is it a disgrace because it is me, because it should be... A lot of people. It should be a lot of people and it's not. Well, yeah, well, wasn't that thing? I think I saw something that you post on your Facebook. It was like 60%.

That's the, yeah, so you didn't read the article. Click the article. No, I didn't. She didn't. She didn't read the article. This is my Facebook friend here, Janice James, who doesn't actually read the things I put up, just looked at the headline.

I wanted to, but I've been a bit busy today. I've been off interviewing and doing things. Doing work. I've been working. I've missed you, you know. I missed you, too. Right, let's get on with it. Right, we've got our first guest coming in.

So we're going to speak to him in a moment. I think he's in the studio. Hello, blah. So I think we're going to go for our second song, because I'm feeling the music. So what have I got? Oh, okay. Guys, what has she been playing while I've been away?

Someone email me and let me know. He's let me go mad. I'm going to come back with some proper tunes in the next couple weeks. Don't worry about it. Okay, well, maybe you're like, you might be like this one. I've been looking up all the different, well, top movies and top soundtracks from different movies.

Great. So I've got like a wide selection today. I think I'm going to go for a bit David Bowie. Jesus Christ. Guys, I will save you. Hashtag, I will save you. Noah will save you. I've got good stuff.

I've got salt and pepper and creptan conan coming up later. I'm doing a nice wide variety. There might be hope. There might be hope. No, okay, this is David Bowie Golden Years, which was used in the film A Night's Tale. And actually, probably many others. It's a proper classic.

And we do love David, by the way. We do love a bit of Bowie. I do miss him. A bit of British. Yes. Not as much as I missed you, but I miss him. Oh, thanks, babe. All right, okay, we're going to grab our first guest,

and this is David Bowie, Golden Years. You know, you're a paradox because you engage on an extraordinarily intimate and personal level. But it's only that far. It's only as far as you let it go. And so as someone in a relationship, I always felt outside of that. And I wanted to be inside of it. And you wouldn't let me in. There were times like when we were making love, I couldn't get you to look me in the eye.

As soon as I got my diagnosis The first thought that came into my head Who's gonna love me now? Who's gonna love me now? Okay, that was a soundbite From the new documentary Who's Gonna Love Me Now And we have the co-director and producer of that documentary In the studio, Alexander Bowden Safir?

That's how you pronounce it? Oh yes, I just say with confidence something And hope it's right. I just go, hey man, Hey, dude. I'm just saying, yo, bro. Alex. How are you doing?

Welcome. Thanks for coming on the show. So your documentary, it's being shown at the London Film Festival. It is, it is, yep. At the present. This weekend, in fact. Oh, this weekend? Yeah.

What time, time, tell people what time. So it's going to be at Hackney Picture House at 5.15 on Saturday. And at 9.15 in the evening, if you want a late show, on Sunday night at Leicester Square View. Oh, nice. There will be a Q&A afterwards. to that kind of thing with me and the Israeli filmmaker one of the Israeli filmmakers

who's come over especially for it and yeah come along. Great. Let me just, let me just, I mean, this is powerful stuff.

Let me just say something to the listeners because obviously our show has a, probably has a certain demographic that may think, oh man, documentary,

oh, gay people and all that. And let's not lie, that's kind of the demographic in the show. You know, I think people that do listen to this show that hopefully I and Jahan have educated,

you know, these are things you need to watch. These are things you have to go and see, you know, to educate yourself about the world and about life and about what people go through. So, you know, I'm going to hand over to you for you to say more, but I just want you guys to, you know, take things seriously. You know, we put things on this show so that, you know, everyone emails in and says, I want to get into film, I want to do this. You're understanding that there's many complexities and many things in film and documentary and life and this is why you're here to learn. Over to you. And actually, you know what?

I mean, oh gay films, oh documentary, that was me not so long ago. and I swore I'd never make a documentary film and I never anticipated I'd make anything to... Tell us what it's about. Yeah, does the promise of... Yeah, tell us what it's about for the listeners before and then tell us that story there because I think I really want them to understand what this is about.

Sure, I mean, it's about life, it's about the pursuit of finding a family and finding a home, it's about an Israeli man who's gay and HIV positive and is thrown out from his family because of his sexuality. And he comes to London. London and he discovers a life that he never knew existed and he joins the London gay men's chorus. Yeah.

And if you're going to find a family that's going to accept you, there is no better family from the game and the chorus. And then the universe threw him a curveball as the universe sometimes does and the opportunity to reconcile with a family that he really thought he would never see again. And our film is five years following that kind of reconciliation process or not reconciliation, you know. And really it's a testament to... to, you talk about gay film, you talk about documentary. This, for me, it's not a gay film.

This is a film. This is a story. No, 100%. I'm just talking from the way some of our listeners would respond. Listen, I'm a straight man who fell in love with this story. And I didn't expect to that at all. What happened was, some friends of mine said, look, we want some help making a film. We got this guy, we want you to meet him.

We want you to do a bit of filming. Just a couple of days. and I said, I'm working on a feature film, I'm writing something, I don't have time. And they said, look, half an hour for a drink. Yeah. And when you see this film, you'll understand that half an hour with Sa, the lead character, turned into three hours.

I didn't want to leave. He had to throw me out. And it's just because he's captivating, and his story is just so engrossing. And it's not a gay story. I mean, it has gayness in it. But I mean, it is a universal story about family, about belonging.

and something I think that everybody can relate to. It's one of the reasons why the BFI became involved. It is about family essentially. And regardless of who or what you are, it's about how your family can react to your choices and your lifestyle. It's very interesting, especially his brother. I was really surprised by his brother. You know, the older brother.

Sure, sure. Really surprised by that. Listen, I mean, that family is phenomenal. And the other thing that I think is really important is, dialogue and communication. And that's something that, you know, these guys have all got very, very different perspectives on life. And they don't always agree. But the fact that they can talk, the fact that they can actually have these conversations,

and put their points across and listen to each other. And it's not just waiting to talk. It's actually really listening to each other. But that took a moment in itself. You know, there were moments in there when he says, you know, you didn't even know I was sick. And then says, I didn't even want to tell you because you don't listen. So, you know, in the span of time, those conversations start happening, you know, where the brother and the wife come and say,

look, we need to tell you something and you think, okay, well, that's progress. Because before you weren't saying anything. You were just talking at him angrily whenever he turned up. And that's five years worth of journey, condense him to 84 minutes. And you've filmed over five years? Yeah. Wow. That's why I love documentaries.

It's like the, well, there's effort in every film, but like, that is like, patience is the word, not effort. Patience. And that, I mean, but that's, that's a, that's a, dying art, that long-form documentary is something that doesn't happen so often because the funding's not there for it. That's right. And, you know, I just came back from a BFI filmmaker's reception and they gave me a glass of wine, so I'm going to sing their praises. I think I was supposed to be there, you know. I think you probably were.

Yeah, me too. You were meant to get a bag with some teapig tea in it. Tea pig tea. That's not cool. I love your tea. How British? The London Film Festival gives you tea. Not only that, it's popcorn tea.

Oh, interesting. How cool is that? Popcorn tea. Everything's getting popcorn flavored now. It better taste the popcorn if I drink it. I'm assuming that I'm taking that from you. You know, you're in my hood now. So this is a hood show.

I'm robbing you of that popcorn. I should not have tea. Popcorn tea. They're in popcorn cocktails now. That's the trendiest cocktail to have. And so for you, what was the real, what was the real crux of wanting to tell Sars story? Because, I mean, it is an amazing story from the men's chorus.

I love when the dad just says, I want to just call them. a men's choir and he says no no you have to call them by the proper name and then he makes a point London gay men's chorus and then the dad says but why do you want to give the audience a reason to discriminate before they've even opened their ears and although I agreed with saar in terms of the name I thought actually that's a good point you almost want them to go this is brilliant and then go

ah boom we're gate and then see how they react you know yeah no that's the reason I want to get involved because quite simply they're these are all incredibly three dimensional characters yeah we can all relate to and every single one even when you don't relate to you know the crux of what they're saying you understand where they're coming from and well not when not when he says uh he told me he was gay i told him to take some pills i didn't quite but but you know what by the end of it katry the father yes um really goes on a journey he does massively that's my that's kind of my favorite if it was a movie like i mean it is kind of a it is a movie that's my the dad's stuff is

my favorite stuff man you know it's crazy because we we spent days weeks um in the edit trying to, you know, work out who country was and how to tell that story. And to their credit, the Heyman brothers were adamant that we had to make him as three-dimensional as possible. And I come from a fiction background. And you know what? In fiction, we rely on these protagonists and antagonists. Because you could have made him a villain easy.

You could have made him a proper villain, right? And it's all in the edit, you know, and you just cut a little bit here, cut a little bit there. And what's amazing is that we didn't. and he still has that incredible journey. Yes, it's great. I tell you something, it's screened in Israel over the summer. Wow, how did they take it? So in Israel, they are, on the gay issue, they're actually quite progressive,

but HIV is still quite a taboo. And it really pushed some boundaries. And what's amazing about it is that it's really open some people's eyes. But Katri, the father, has become a proper celebrity, because actually he comes out as, as, a really fascinating role model of dialogue and of change. And actually now... Because I guess he represents the regular man out there.

He represents... I mean, he's certainly a certain kind of man out there, for sure. But what's really amazing is that, you know, there was a screening in Jerusalem a few months ago where a religious girl came up and said, look, I'm gay and I want to come out to my parents, but I don't know how to do it. And he welcomed her on stage.

and he said... Well. First, he gave her a hug. Yeah. Which wasn't a given given where he'd come from. And secondly, he said, you know, if you need my help,

if you want me to come with you, I'm here for you. Wow. And for that opportunity... Did you guys film that too? That was actually filmed, yeah. Oh, wow. It's got shivers, man.

You know, it's... I was like thinking, I hope they did, man. No, of course. And I think for me, the opportunity to work on a film that isn't just entertainment, but it actually, you know,

can change hearts and minds that it is part of... of a community and of a society changing their opinions and their way in which they view things, it's an opportunity that you don't get very often as a filmmaker. Okay, listen, you just got this email in from someone who doesn't want to be named. I've recently come out and this film sounds so good. I haven't been accepted by everyone and I've been feeling like I don't belong.

This guest in your words have given me some comfort. That may sound strange, but thank you. Man, amazing. Amazing. So, give me a favor. Totally and honestly. Yes. If you can go back to them, and I've got a comp ticket for them.

If you're still listening, I'm guessing we have got your, I'm guessing we, do we have the email? Yeah, we have got the email. So if you're still listening, we're going to get you a ticket. We don't have to, you don't have to tell anyone, but hopefully you'll come down and watch it. And we'll get the radio show to contact you. And I hope that this helps. And have you got any words for this young person? They haven't said if they're a boy or girl, but do you have anything to say?

I let you read that. Amazing. I mean, really, all I've got goosebumps. come on down and you know what if you want to bring the family just as an opening conversation starter I've got tickets for you

so should we put your email in the email that we send back to yeah so there you go man or go hopefully you'll get to see this film and see how amazing it is and you know don't feel like you don't belong for coming out everyone belongs a space for everyone on the planet you know so just you know be you that's the most important thing

and hang in there These things change. It takes time for people to just readjust their perception. But you don't need to change. You are cool. I feel that there has been a shift in, even just like looking at my friends and my friends' parents and my parents' generation,

in me growing up, they've shifted their thoughts patterns, which has been amazing to see. Because initially, I think my parents and that whole generation that anyone I knew at that age were way more reserved and conservative and now they're so liberal. People didn't understand the issues. Yeah. You know, that was a thing.

And hopefully, and people still don't. People still don't. Film is one of the best ways to communicate that because everybody can sit and watch. You don't necessarily have to be talking about it. You can sit and absorb it and then go, ooh, think on it. So guys, that is who's going to love me now?

Yeah. Screening tomorrow. And Hagnon. In Hagney. And Sunday at the Lester Square View. Make sure you guys go and see it. It is very, very powerful. It is an amazing story and I loved it.

And you will love it. And there's some good music too. And there's some give you. Oh, well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you, guys. All the best of luck. And right, we're going to pop to our next song. This is salt and pepper going back in the 90s.

This is from, can you guess where this was from? It was in a film out this year, one of my favorite films this year. No, I don't. Deadpool. Deadpool. Deadpool. It's, I'm assuming it's push it. No, it's Shoop.

Oh, Shoop. Oh, that was a good one. Shoe. Shoe do. Shoe do. Yeah. Okay, let's go to that. You're on Back Row and Chill.

Back Row and Chill with Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fubar Radio. On the Fubar. Woo! The King is back. Listen, I'm just going to check this. Listen. So we just got an email in from Petta, Peter, Petter, Petter, I think. Hey guys, Noel, you are back.

Woo! I missed you. Well, Petter, I missed you. Oh, I'm interested in becoming a set designer. What tips can you give me? Make shit. Yeah, start. making shit and go for it go for it

the best tip there are set designers that you can find that worked on films contact them don't be shy they usually have the emails on IMDB which is a website contact them and see if you can get some work experience and contact us when we do our next film and see if we can squeeze you in because there's two ways to really

sort of get into the industry one is to go and train do a degree or a course or something in it and then the other is to start from scratch and just go as an intern and just give your time learn how did you get into the industry, Johanna James? Well, I started by going to I went to uni. Okay, no, the real story that I want you to tell.

Well, this is what happened. I went to uni and I trained in, I trained in costume for film and then I left in my first film, but I wanted to be an actress. And the first film that I ever did was working on Noel's film, Story's 24. Wow. And I was putting all the, I was putting all the, it was a horror film. So I was doing all the, all the horror. So I hope you guys are listening. So Johanna James went to uni and then the first film, she did, worked on costume-wise, after her union was Storries 24, and then five years later, here we are working to see, this shit can happen, if this shit happens, man.

And you are an actress, you're in like two of our films now as well. Well, it was funny, how it happened. So I was on set, and then it was lunchtime, and everyone went off set at lunch, and then it was me, you, a couple of other people, we were playing around on the set with cameras, and we were just having fun, basically. Yes. And then, I remember the producers of that film came to you and said,

oh, we've found the trailer that we want to use, or bit for the trailer, a bit of the poster or something. Yes. And they showed it to you and you went, she ain't in the film. She's not in the film. It was you in the fucking tunnel.

She's a costume girl. You have now fucked yourself because I still have those pictures and I have pictures of you doing cartwheels and doing the splits, which I'm going to send to the guys at the station so they can put up on the site. Yes.

Five years ago, I don't think I'm that flexible anymore. But that's... I'll ask you a fella. But that's how... Go on and text him now. I'll text him now. Can she still do the splits, bro? Yeah, go on anyway.

But that's how our friendship started. And that's how I got into it. And you really encouraged me to go for the acting rather than the costume because that's what I really wanted to do. And now you're amazing at all your stuffy things that you do on, sketchy stuff and all those various things that you're amazing at. And you're an actress. No, I act, yeah.

Yeah. Well, that was, do you remember the nickname for me that you gave me? Bubelina. Awesome sauce. Oh, you mean the other nickname? No, actually, it was Bubelina, awesome source. It was, yeah, see? It was.

But, yeah, so, but anyone who does to come back to the. point anyone who doesn't want to get into the industry there are many ways to do so including meeting me because that's how I roll yeah I just hook people up just get yourself onto a film set and train well in your passion just keep you know if you want to be a set design and make shit how amazing is that we just met and now you're actually we're working together I know well we've worked together for years but like we're mates anyway entertainment news get on with entertainment news guys let's have a little bit of a because it's the entertainment news yeah that's new I know I've got all

some of things going on right up press number 13 for me has it still got my shit on there number um oh i think it's mooh oh yeah wait wait here we go iroopi shock here we go playing with the toys so entertainment news i've been doing a bit of research about movies that are coming out what's coming up um what is in production um and the first thing that's really hit the internet this week is it's the brand new pirates the caribbean trailer has been robbed wow um i've got mixed feelings about there's there's black people in it yeah there is but there always has been in in pirates Caribbean.

Yeah, but it was like, it was always like Pirates of the Caribbean with three black people. But like Zoe Salander was in the first one. Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah. It's not called Pirates of Sweden, is it? Yeah. Well, historically, the Jamaica, the time...

Yeah, okay. It was very British, you know, Occupy, wasn't it? But, so the trailer's dropped. Dead men, tell no tales. Johnny Depp is back. Great. So this is when, obviously, it was filmed amidst all that hullabble.

with Amber Hurd. What's her name again? I ain't saying she's a gold digger. But she ain't messing with no broke niggas. Yes. Yeah, so Johnny is back. Although he's not in the trailer, which is odd. But I've really got some really gorgeous actor is.

So I didn't mind. I wasn't casting that film, babe. Oh, no, it wasn't you. It was this other guy. And it's also got the, his name is slip in my mind, but he was the baddie in Skyfall. Javier Javier bad them

That's the one Javier Javier Like you're not hearing it's Javier Unbelievable What I just read it I said it as I read it

Alright Javier Javier Bardom Javier Bardom Javier Bardom Yeah he didn't out I knew film But this is Pirates of Caribbean

Number 5 And Johnny Depp has been quoted To say He will continue making Pirate films until the kids say stop So Johnny

Stop bro The kids say stop Stop blah Let's just do this one It's out his film now It's there We love you to bitch Jonathan, but let's hold off

on, like six and seven. The dog is dead, guys, the dog is dead. Apparently Orlando Bloom's coming back, though. Yeah, well, he needs it, then he so. That's great. He needs the work. Right, also what's been in filming at the moment is the sequel to Jamarji, which again, I don't know how feel about that. Is it a sequel

or is it a remake? It's a sequel. They've been very, because I think there was a lot of people getting very sensitive about Jamarji's my favorite kid films ever. And they say, it's not a remake. It is a continuation of the story. So, it's the same board game but a different

amazing It's got Jack Black Dwayne Johnson Karen You mean the rock If you smell What the rock

Yeah Is cooking Yeah Who I met earlier this year And I love him You did Still mopping up in the studio guys

It was so amazing Kevin Hart And And Karen Gilling Gillen yeah You were gonna say Jillin there

Weren't you I was I was Yeah I was Yeah Karen Gilling She's amazing I've got Name a select

yeah okay that's a good one yeah she's amazing yeah she and all the loads of um they so they released a poster on the first day of filming of everybody all the characters and then there was a big backlash because she was in little short because she was in teeny we need clothes and even i thought it when i saw it i went and why's the girl in ridiculous tiny things because most films are made by men and we like to see women in skimpy clothes well apparently both the rock and karen have come back and said that there is a reason and a purpose yes there is why she's wearing child's clothes and I went oh okay maybe that's a little cue I think they just did it and then after the backlash they came up

with a thing they're like we need to rewrite the movie so the bottom line is there's absolutely no reason why the woman should be in skin beer clothes and the men other than usually execs are men and they just like it so it's not really acceptable I guess it comes down to the girl and how the girls feel comfortable whether they want to do it or not you know yeah it's not really acceptable so I'm excited but what next Baywatch with everyone in wetsuits I mean come on like Berka watch.

Let's not mess about with it. Let's not go there. Let's not go to France right now. But so I'm kind of excited about Jamongy too. I'm going to give it a go. Did you ever see that Simpsons episode where they're getting chased by the animals in the zoo? And Homer's like, I know what to do, Jamonji! And then nothing happens in the rhino headbutts him.

It's quality. You should find it. It's really good. But also I read up to think it was because the Rock's producing it. And I kind of trust, after seeing some of his stuff he's done recently, I trust his comedy. I trust his comedy. I'm like, you know what? going to give faith in you. He's pretty fun. And he said that they're very conscious that

they want to do a good job to Robin Williams and the fantastic film. So there is going to be an ode to Alan Parrish. There is some sort, there's going to be some sort of, even though it's a cross story. And because it's set in a jungle and obviously Alan spent most of his life in a jungle. So maybe there's going to be some sort of like nod to Alan. Oh, that would be nice. That's cool. The other things that are coming up, we've got a real life, Moulin. So anyone who liked the original. Yeah, Moulin. So Disney seemed to be doing this

thing where all their classic animated films that were on when, well, actually, I wasn't born or I was very, very young. Snow White. Oh, no. Yes, Snow White, Huntsman. Cinderella. Yeah. Now Moulan. Jungle book. Jungle book.

They're doing live action versions of all their classic animated films. How do you feel about this? How do we feel about this? Well, I love the originals. And yeah, I think someone's just trying to make money. This was great. Let's make even more. However saying that though, Moulon, that would be a good live action story. That's a bloody good story. And if we're thinking

about the older, you know, dragon in the room as it were, because you know, there'll be a lot of jobs for Asian actors. Yeah, totally. Actors of colour. On a mainstream. And so, yeah, I just know how they would, how Disney they would do it, whether it would have a talking Mushu dragon or whatever, whether they would just keep it as a straight story about a girl, dressing up as a guy. Probably the dragon will still be there.

But I definitely, I preferred, I preferred, I preferred Mulan to like Cinderella, like watching them as kids. I just remember going, watching Mulan and being like, yeah, I want to get a sword and cut my hair off and be a guy. And rather than the Cinderella being like, oh, I want to like, ride a pumpkin. But you've achieved that now, so what else do you want to do?

I've cut my hair off. I've been a guy. I've fought more. You're a guy, I've heard, yeah. I've fought the hunt. No. And you said a live action, what else? There is a live action Lion King.

Being made. Being in the pipeline. The Moulon ones actually signed off and it's like 2017 to shoot. Yeah. The Lion King is like in the pipeline. I mean, that's again, a live action. I mean, they're just shitting money, aren't they? They just don't care.

They're just anything. Live action, anything. Yeah. So what else was they're animated? What was Aladdin? Aladdin. Yeah. And they're making it all into, then they're doing stage shows.

It's literally like, what else can we do? So Aladdin's not, it has not been mentioned. but I remember that was a cartoon that they also did to surely at some point that would be one of the live actions. Interesting Disney. Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting one. Well, while you've been away, Noel,

I've been setting up a game that we regularly play on here, which is like guess the theme tune or guess the soundtrack. So I thought I'd challenge you back to it. I don't know why things have been made up while I'm not here, unbelievable, but let's do it. Let's test your film knowledge.

So I've prepared a couple of soundtracks and I'm going to give you, Got my list hold on. Great. Right. I'm loving this game already, by the way. Okay, let's test your film knowledge. If my...

Okay, here we go. Here is the first song. Let's see if you can guess where it's from. And you guys can play it at home to you and let's know how many you get. Email in. Give me some clues, help me up. What do you think it is? What the fuck, man.

Top Gun. Well done. Is it Top Gun? It is Top Gun. You got the first one right? Yeah, motherfucker. Number two. Superman.

Oh fuck, hold on, no. Damn it, I know this as well. I'll give you a clue. We were just talking about number five. I know this as well. Pirates of the Caribbean. It was, yeah. Damn it.

Ignore my Superman comment. All right, I'll scratch that out. Don't worry. You're right. Jet lag. Where's this from? No, ET or something. It was Thai Tannick.

Oh, God. That film, man. Jack. Jack. He could have fit. He could have fit on that door. She didn't want him on the door, that's the point. She wanted them jewels to herself, greedy bitch.

You're going to fill the door? How dare you? Okay. I'm not surprised I didn't know that one. Number four. Yeah. I get this one. Kid growing up.

Raiders of the lost off. Indiana Jones. Yes, it is. Woo! I'm going to give you three out of four. So far. Number five. I think this one's really hard.

I don't think I'd get this one. This is, um, away or something in that Irish film with Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman Prince Armageddon that's what I said it actually that's what I thought bond it is the bond yeah I love a bit of bond all right good good good what else we do I'm I've got a later roll oh I see yeah I couldn't tell you which bond I'm assuming it's live and let die it's a classic one definitely yeah okay number seven Do you want to Q?

Avatar. No? No. Master Frodo. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. Lord of the Rings are one of those fucking things, yeah. Okay, number eight.

I have no idea. Oh, wait, wait, wait. No, I have no idea. Saving Private Ryan. This is number nine. Number nine, okay. you get this I'm so happy it's Eva oh fuck I don't know beauty and a beast sound of music I'll give you it I'll give you it okay oh well done yeah you know you know you superman yeah

I know my dude films yeah you dude films that I got that sound of music you did get that you did get that so well done that's number turn yeah okay oh 11 retro 90s film I believe yeah Jurassic Park. No, no. Last the Mohicans. Oh, dude, come on, man. That's before I was born. Number 12.

Oh, flip, man. One of the biggest musicals all time. Greece. Yes! What a film that is. If you ain't seen Greece, guys, you need to watch it. Number 13. Star Wars.

No. I had a guy who said he wanted to go up the aisle to this. Yeah? I was like, I'm not coming up the aisle to Imperial Watch. Can you imagine that? As you're walking up, like, everyone is like, mate, don't marry this chick. Number 14. This would be great for the coming out of the wedding.

That was a great escape, sorry. Oh, no. Oh, good, good feel like with E.T. E.T. Well done. Okay, so apart from that, you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. You got 11 out of 15. 11 out of 15. That was amazing. That was amazing. That's how we roll, man.

Yep. Great. Yep. Yep. Okay, I think we should go back to some music, and then we're going to move on to speak to our second guest. Yeah, I do. So I'm going to go for, oh, have you seen the latest Creed film?

The Rocky. Yeah, Creed, yes, yes, with whatever's name, Jordan B. Michael B. Jordan. Yeah, yeah, yes. I love that film. And I also like the soundtrack, so this is in one of the main bits of the film when he's going into the arena. It's got Crepton Conan, don't waste my time.

That's right. So I thought I'd play that for you guys. Conan on a brother time. I'm like, Robert's still out now. Yeah, I know. Plug in that till you die. Okay, back row and chill. Back row and chill with

Johanna James and Noel Clark on Fuba Radio. On Fubar Radio. Turn around, where's my time? Yeah, yeah. Doing like a bit of Crept and Conan. Yeah, they're great. Right, we've got our next guest

who's going to be on the phone line so we hope technology is going to patch us together. But we've got director Liam Gavin. he directed a film called A Dark Song which is also at the London Film Festival. Excellent. It is the time of the year for films which is great, great for our show.

I haven't yet seen it but I've read the synopsis of it and it looks good. I'm not normally into like proper dark, dark stuff. Depends how dark though. But I was intrigued to find out what happened. Like poltergeist dark, donny dark oh dark, like you know, let's find out.

Let's find out. Let's see if we can. Grab Liam on the line. Hello. Hello. Hello, Liam. There you go. I'm here.

Hi, it's Johanna and Noel. Hello. Hello me. Welcome on the show. We were just having a quick, sort of brief discussion about your film. And what it's about and let people know what they're in for if they're going. Well, it is a, essentially, it's a very, it's quite a dark film, as you're saying. It's kind of, it is about a woman whose child has died and she's so sort of riddled with grease.

that she pays an occultist, quite a large sum of money, to do a black magic ceremony in a house in Wales where they seal themselves off, and it's to make manifest her guardian angel. Now, it's not just like Harry Potter, where they kind of quickly do an incantation and draw a diagram, and it's done. It takes eight months of two people locked in the house.

So it is about cabin fever, as much as it is about black magic as well. Wow. And so, I mean, where'd you come up with the film? Yeah, was it? What the hell are you thinking? What's happening here? Well, I watched, it is an actual thing, this ceremony.

Oh, my God, is it? Okay. Okay, I have one question before you answer the other question about where you come up. Does the ceremony work? In the film? No, I'm talking about it. I don't like boogeymen and ghosts and stuff like that. It's reputed to work.

It takes it sort of in real life, it takes like 18 months or something to do. Oh, gosh. Commitment to the occult. I've been quite careful in the film. Call me old-fashioned to not actually show the incantations and things like that. Yeah, yeah, of course. Just because, you know, you hear stories from the Exorcist and from the omen and things. So I didn't want to actually sort of do black magic.

Yeah. So, but the actual way it's manifested itself is kind of accurate, the way that it's about altering people's sort of internal states to manifest a change in the world. And it's a really hard core thing. So say again, how did you come up with it? Well, I was watching the documentary this. Do you know who Alastair Crowley is?

Alexander Crowley, no. He is at the sort of beginning of the last century. He's kind of like quite an important occultist, and he was not a nice man by any stretch of the imaginations. But he kind of rediscovered this particular ritual. and he did it in a house in Locknest and he got bored halfway through and sort of stormed out

leaving the house the house is bonkers where people sort of go mad and commit suicide really? Yeah yeah so he left after nine months he just got annoyed and just went so he was like that as a person

I mean I still got to admire the nine months he put in though like Yeah yeah well when he did it he got to a stage where sort of reputedly there'd be figures that they'd be in a room in the bright sunlight outside but they'd have to like

candles to actually see the actual kind of to do the actual rituals and they'd be sort of figures standing in the room but they wouldn't be you know they wouldn't be corporeal so you put your hand through them and stuff wow

so this is why I'm careful about not to do wow so you're saying that you know allegedly that he got so far into the ceremony that that was happening there were figures in the room that would be in there that were intangible and you could put your hands through it. That's right. That's right.

I mean, I'd like to do an experiment to see if you just put someone in a room for nine months, whatever, what you see. You know, after being on your own. But, I mean, yeah, because I'm not totally one for horror because I've got an overactive imagination, but reading the story, I did, it was said here now, like,

into the real, releasing the real world of angels and real demons, and I was like, oh my gosh, I kind of want to find out what happens to this girl and whether it works. and I was compelled enough to go forward into the darkness. So this is amazing. So is your one, Liam, based on, was it just something that you, then,

did you write this as well? Yeah, it is right. Yeah. So is this something that was based on the guy that you just talked about, or did you just want to come up with your own? Well, what I did is. It got the actual ritual itself and sort of took it and made it my own, if you see what I mean.

Yeah, of course, yeah, wow. So it's, you know, reduced the, I mean, in the film they're in, they are in in the long run they are in it for a while sure but I don't do the full sort of 18 months um I they in in real life people talk about the the the actual ritual about that guardian angel being a sort of higher version of themselves and things like that so uh but others will argue that it is an actual guardian angel

has anyone actually claimed to have finished this then uh lots of people claim to have finished this um it's kind of taken that within the occult circles Now, I've got, please understand that I am in none of myself, yeah, I am not interested in the occult, per se. Do you know what I mean? Right. That it was just a subject matter I chose to set my film in. Sure.

And obviously did my research and everything like that. But me, myself, I'm a good Catholic boy. I'm sort of keep away from all that kind of thing in my actual living life. But there are lots of people within those circles who would claim to have done it and stuff. but it's a really arduous thing to do. So it will be a badge of honour, do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, wow. And so just tell everyone, tell us, when are you screening?

When are you screening? I'm screening tonight at the Curson, Sharsbury Avenue. Nice. And I'm screening tomorrow at BFI Screen Theatre 2 or something. On the South Bank. Yeah, on the South Bank. So guys, a dark song, guys, tomorrow, BFI on the. the South Bank at what time?

It's at, um, at, tonight it's at nine and tomorrow it's at one. Well, listen, I'm going to tell you something.

I'm not watching no film like this at nine o'clock in the evening. Yeah, maybe watching the afternoon if you're of a sensitive imagination. Yeah, that's right,

so you're going to do something afterwards. And so are you, I'm guessing your World Chuff that's in the London Film Festival. Yeah, well, it's just my first feature. It's been,

it went over to Texas to the Fantastic Fest where it just went through the roof. Oh, amazing. It's just like it's gone it's gone kind of nuts so we're getting really, really good reviews.

Amazing. So I'm intrigued to see now how it goes in London because Fantastic Fest is a real genre fest. I don't know if you know it. Horrofrey, yes, yes, I know a few horror fest. Yeah, so, so it's, but BFI, it's kind of, I live in London. Great.

It is your home. The first festival I ever went to film festival is London. So to get your film in that, it's pretty, you know, it's like a real badge of honour. Yeah, great, great. I feel like we're going to have to have meeting, Liam. We're going to have to meet up and have a coffee

and talk projects. I know, I know. So, I've watched lots of your films. Oh, thanks, man. How long the way? And I'm a huge fan. Thank you, man. I'm going to get your email address from the guys and then I'm going to email you. Let's meet up. Oh, that'd be fantastic. Yeah, great. Thank you. Thank you for speaking with us, Liam. Thank you. All the best enough for the show. Everyone go check out a dark

song. Thank you. Bye, Liam. Bye-bye. Okay. Bye-bye. Cool. Wow. Yeah, I mean... That sounds freaky. Freaky stuff. That would have been intense filming and intense. Freaky, horrible, creepy stuff, man. I'm sure the film's great, but I'm not watching films like that.

You know what? That's the one thing as an actress. Like, I would really not, I don't think I would really take on a role that was, like, properly a cultist, just because I don't think I'd like to, I don't think I'd come out of it well. You know, the stuff he's talking about, you know, with the Exorcists and the Polter guys and all those, those films where they really went into that stuff, and a lot of cast and crew end up dying. No, they did, didn't they? Yeah.

There was someone, how many people died on the Exorcist? Too many. Like, they kept going through. all the girls, didn't they? Too many, yeah. And blonde white girls are the first people to die. Exactly, and that's me.

Closely followed by black people. Oh my God, if we were in a movie. You die pre-credits because that's how the films always starts. I'm pretty white girl, but like, ooh, and then it starts, and I'll be main cast, and I'll be the first to die. That's how it rolls.

Great, great outlook on our life. Unbelievable. Right, next song. So last week I got to speak to Dan. Is the next song a dark song? No, it's an up song. It's an uplifting song. Oh, where are we?

With a film, yeah. Tushay, too-sha. It'll be missed. Clearly. Last week I got to speak to the Daniels, which were the two directors of that new film Swiss Army man. Well, they're twins or something. No, no, they're just friends called the Daniels.

Hold on, hold on. You spoke to the two directors. They were in here, in the show? No, we did a call from L.A. Of the two directors of the Daniel Radcliffe film where he's like some weird little dead erected. Yeah, yeah. So, because I watched the film and then I spoke to them. So catch up on last week's show.

if you want to hear that. But the Swiss Army Man, weird. Have you seen? No. I've heard he's got a hard one in the whole film. Yeah, it's all... Does he pull his willie out there? There's a lot of fart jokes and he plays a corpse which has a stiff.

Does he pull it out? No, he don't see it. It's just... So he can get it out in the thing where you're shagging the horse but he couldn't get it out on stage. You didn't need nudity in that film. The film was weird enough without seeing his penis, to be fair. But one thing I did love about the movie. I don't want to see it. I just want to clarify that.

I'm just saying. Sure. I don't want to see it. But the music, I loved the music from the film. So I thought I'd grab one of the tracks, one of my favorite tracks from the Swiss Army Man. I will save you, guys. I will save you.

What? It's a great song. No, I play it, I'm sure it is. Oh, I'll save you, I will save you. Oh, fuck off. We're going to continue that song. We're back. We're back in the room.

We're back in the room. All right, we've got a lot of emails coming in, which is fun and fantastic. Do you want to go first? Yeah, yeah. Okay, you go first. Yeah. I think this is to me.

I think I saw you in Doncaster. Was that you, or do you have a lookalike? It wasn't me. It was a lookalike. End of. Boom. It wasn't me. It wasn't me.

Okay, what is a fun fact that people might not be aware of about you? From James in London. Is that to both of us? To both of us. Okay, a fun fact. This is so hard when someone's like, say something nice about yourself. And you're just like, oh. She did this and doesn't answer questions quickly.

Fun fact, fun fact, fun fact. Okay, I. I used to be able to do the splits, clearly. Yeah, I've had pictures. I will bring them out. Fun fact about me is I'm actually pretty funny, but, you know. But people don't get to see that because they only get to see. Frowny face.

Holmanor. You get me, you get me. So we've got another one, hey Noel, I'd like to meet you. Do you meet and greet ever? Or do P.A.s or something? I do. This is from Fee. Hey, Fee.

I do do stuff like that. You just have to guess I keep looking out on my Twitter or Facebook or Instagram. Do you meet and greet. And then you'll see when we do a meeting group. You do a lot of comic. don't you? I do a couple, probably a couple of year, yeah, where I meet loads of people.

It's a good face-suck on me. You get a signature. Get a cuddle. Have a little cuddle. I feel like Fee wants a cuddle, not a signature. Yeah, well, that's the thing. Now, people, our signatures going out of fashion, because people just want selfies.

We want selfies now. I want selfies now. Sorry, I beg your pardon? I beg your pardon, young man. What did you say, young man? Anyway, who's in all of us? Right, we've got Lucy Patterson's back in for film. You and again, thank you for having me again.

You're part of the team, girl. Yeah. Great part of the show. So every week we go away and we go and do our research, we go to our homework and then we bring it back to club and we talk about films what we like what we didn't like. Bring it back to club. It's so exciting.

It's a good thing it's not like fight club because the first rule of fight club is don't talk about a fight club. It would just be fat air. Hey, Lou's how you doing? Great. Yeah, so. What film did you see today? What's everyone seen?

What's people seen? Your face First ruler film club As you don't talk about it. All right go What have you guys seen? All right go go Go

Go This week I have seen Free State of Jones With Matthew Conahe Very good I saw the girl on the train I want to go see tonight I think I might go see that tonight

I think you should Everybody should And Super Sonic Now I I'm going to start with Super Sonic Super Sonic Super Sonic the Hedgehog It's a documentary

Around Oasis The Band obviously. See, you two can take the piss all you like, but I love them. I absolutely love them. You know, and whether you're, you know, I do think you need to be a fan to go and see this. Otherwise, it's absolutely no point. It only covers a three-year period.

It's from when they formed to when they had their record-breaking shows at Nibwa. Yeah. And at first I was thinking, well, that's not enough. I want to know everything else. Yeah. But you go out on such a hire and, you know, obviously I was devastated when they split up. so devastated enough. I don't need to relive that.

This is all fun. You know, it's full of interviews with all of the past band members, obviously Liam and Noel, and it really, really goes into their family history and things like that. Do the brothers sit in the same room? No, see, this is what I liked about it.

There was none of that talking heads, you know, boringness. There was a lot of animation. Oh, that's how I like that. New style of documentary, really. It was really, really good. I think the director's name was Matt Whitecross. Oh, I know, Matt. He did the Amy, did he do the,

He did a film called Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll as well that I'm in, without any circus. Oh, yeah, I know that one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think he did a brilliant job. It was so different. It wasn't the normal run of the meal, boring old music documentary you see on VH1. You know, this was really a new thing.

Yeah, fuck you, VH1. Yeah, we don't like you. But, yeah, it was a lovely little trip down memory lane. I cried a lot. I laughed a lot. It was very good. You should go and see it if you're on a racist. So thumbs up for that, yeah?

Definitely. And it's called Super Sonic. Super Sonic. Go see Super Sonic. It's out today actually. I went to, I dragged my ass all the way to Harlow actually because they did a live feed of the premiere screening. There was a Q&A with Liam after and obviously it was awkward as usual.

That man can't be trusted. It was really cringing. But anyway, yeah, go and see it. Great. Love that. Cool. And how was going on the train? Is that something that I didn't get to see it this week and I wanted to.

My first question is, why didn't she just take the bus? I tell you what, things would be much better if she did. It's good, that's why I must do. Much better if she did. I mean, it's a mystery thriller based on a book, actually,

that a hell of a lot of people have read. Now, I don't understand how you can enjoy this film if you've read the book and you know the twist out of it because it's a massive twist. Yeah, I don't know it yet. Exactly, and I really can't talk much

about the story at all because it starts unfolding from the second you see her, you know. Emily Blunt is the main character in this and she has just gone through her divorce she's spiraling into alcoholism and she's basically stalking her ex-husband and a couple of his neighbours.

As you do. As you do. Somebody winds up dead and it's a massive whodunit and they really, really sort of take you off on different leads and things. I was sitting in the cinema going, she did it, he did it, she did it. And in the end, none of them did it that I said,

you know, I didn't get it right at all. No. Oh, okay, great. Because I quite like that because I wanted to see the, I wanted to read the book and then I'm happy I haven't because I get to have that experience. See, this is you get the twist.

I think I figured out already. Really? I think. See, I thought I had and I am a bit of smart ass and things like that. I generally get it and I'm like, yeah, I knew the whole time. Didn't have a clue. This is fucking Sherlock. This is a clock.

I do this for a living. I feel like I know what it's going to happen. Anyway, I need to, yeah, I feel like I know what's going to happen. Yeah. Go on to whatever the next one is. Okay, well, I went to see Miss Peregrin's Home for Peculiar Children. I've seen that. Well, I've seen that.

Really? It was a mix. It was a mix. There was things about it I really enjoyed. How many black people in it? One. Samuel Jackson. He did write that part just for him though.

I really just for Samuel Old Jackson. No, I loved it for some reasons and I hated it for others, which were kind of personal. So I love the time travel element of it and then getting stuck in time loops and getting stuck in the same day in 1944. Yeah, that seems really cool actually, yeah. In 1943. And I love all of Tim Burton, like the costume. wise and the characters. He's always amazing, isn't it?

It's proper, all the kids that were in it and it was heavily reliant on these amazing kid actors. They got to wear the most incredible costumes and it was beautiful and they're always gorgeous to look at these films, aren't they? Yeah, visually, I really enjoyed the story and I enjoyed all the time, I love time travel and things like that, back to the future kind of thing.

What I didn't like was, the actual story was about these creatures that you couldn't see, only the main protagonist could actually see these monsters. called Hallows and they they prey on their victims and they eat their eyeballs. Oh, gross! And I don't know what it is about Tim Burton

because some previous films about eyes being removed and that is like a number one phobia personally in mine. So for me that might as well have been like an 18 horror. I was like, who!

And like they do extended scenes of eyes being taken out and eyes being eaten and so I felt a little bit ill personally from that but I mean maybe not for the cinema So my review would be, don't bother going to see it in cinema,

just catch it up whenever it's on a Netflix or on TV, or it's probably going to be on a Christmas at some point, sometimes. Oh, I'm sure it will be. So, yeah. It'll be on Netflix before you know it. But then sometimes I do think that with Tim Burton's films, do you not have to be there in the big screen to appreciate it, or is it not a case of that this time?

I don't think this one, no. I think you could easily watch this one at home. It wasn't epic. It was beautiful, but not epic on screen. Not epic enough, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was glad I saw it, and I like Evergreen. and I think that the people who, and it's interesting story, but it wasn't, it was like, yeah, and a no, no. Yeah, and a no, which is, have I got my soundbite for a yeah?

Yeah, it's, oh, no, no, I don't. Oh, no, it's gone. I've only got a hell no or a year, so. Oh, that's no good. I'll give it a little yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So, what was the other film you saw, you saw, Matthew McConnell?

Yes, I did, Free State of Jones. Now, this was another biographical film. This seems to be one of these lately. But then, you know, where else did you get your stories from? It was about Matthew McConaughey, he was a deserter during the Civil War in America. Okay. Basically, he was based on a real person called Newton Knight. Nice name.

Now, I'd never heard of him. I'd never heard of him. Obviously, I knew about the Civil War and things like that. And apparently a lot of the story is fictional. Okay. But some of the events that take place did take place. You know, it's one huge history lesson. he deserts the army and he ends up hiding in the Louisiana swamps with some runaway slaves

and you know so obviously there's a racial aspect to it as well and there's a time period where they live in the swamp in the swamp you know and they make their own little town and all that and then they decide to fight back against the soldiers and they go and take various counties back from the soldiers where they got the weapons from I don't know a lot of it is quite dubious but I have read that it was very well researched and you know not of a lot of artistic licence was used just certain scenarios to piece bits together.

Okay. A patchwork of history. Yeah, but you know, it's an important film because, you know, the person I saw it with as well, you know, who, me included, we were absolutely shocked at some of the things that happened, you know, and it's the history lesson. So everybody go and see it.

Matthew McConaughey is amazing. Does he have a southern draw? He does. He has a southern draw. See, he's got a slight one anyway, hasn't it? All right, all right, right. Oh my God. It's just, it's literally like getting a cuddle with

the cinema, it's just amazing. He's so much more pronounced. And he's absolutely filthy the whole way for it, but it just doesn't matter. He's very good. Perfectly cast. Okay, so that was a, that was a... Yep. Yep.

From you. Yes. Amazing. Well, thank you so much. I'm going to definitely go and see the girl on train. Yes, do. And I'm going to also, I've got so much to, I've want to go see McNefferson 7 as well. You really inspired me last.

So I might just do a whole cinema on day trip or something and just veg out, overdose on popcorn. Yeah, do a double bill or a triple bill. if you dare. I tried to do a triple bill once, but it was 3D, and I got such a headache. I nearly passed out.

It was, it was like over, my senses. Over stimulation. Yeah, I was just like on the floor. Maybe stick to the double bill then. Yeah, maybe just stick to the double. Right, let's go back to a little bit of music.

And thank you so much, Lucy for coming in. We'll see next week. See you next week. All right. This next song, I'm going to go back for The Bodyguard, going back with really 80s.

Bit of Whitney Houston. So it's Queen of the Night from the Bodyguard. I wish I could sing like Whitney. Right, so we're coming live from Fulbar Radio, Noel Clark and Johanna James, backro, and chill. Sometimes we can't squidge guests in on the live show, so we have to run and pre-record interviews with them. And earlier today, this lunchtime, I got to meet the director, Justin Kelly, who directed the new film King Kubra, which is going to be at the London Film Festival, and it's going to be coming out of cinemas later on in the year. Here's a little clip from the film

So you can hear what I'm talking about I'm willing to give you $25,000 for one video I'm not losing you to anybody You can't stop me from using my name I trademarked it I'm the one who calls the shots around here You're Brent Corrigan

You have to do this video Stephen is the only one standing in your way Epic Check out the trailer guys On Google Google the trailer for King Cobra It's the true story of a young guy, setting out in LA, entering the porn industry and the gay porn industry. And he gets involved and it gets dark very, very quickly, true story. And his manager ends up getting murdered over all the sort of

sordid underworld of the porn industry. So I met with the director earlier today. So here is our interview and he's absolutely amazing guy, really, really friendly and lovely. And you should be able to see on our Facebook page, you'll be able to see the video of when I met him as well. So here's what he had to say about King Cobra. Back row and chill with Johanna James and North Clark on Fubar Radio. Hi guys, Johanna James, Fulbar Radio. I'm here with Justin Kelly. Hello, how are you?

And we're here to talk about mainly your brand new film, King Cobra. Yes, premiered last night, and we have one more screening today. And I think it's the last one. So if people missed it, then they'll have to wait until it comes out. Yeah, and it comes out, end of October? Yeah, October 21st in, you know, in theater, in Select. theaters in VOD, et cetera, in the States. And I don't know our exact release date for Europe yet.

Oh, okay. It'll be soon. I'm pretty sure. And so people who people don't know what King Cobra is about, it's based on a true story. I'll let you. Yes. It's based on a very wild true story about a young, aspiring gay porn star who becomes so popular and in demand that a producer of his is murdered over his contract.

And that was totally true. It's totally true. Did you just hear about that story and think, oh, my God. to make a movie or was it what was the process in? I read about it and I just, it's such a, such a crazy story that of course, you know,

your first thought is how did this happen and why? And the more I read about it and learned about the characters, the more fascinating the entire story became. And I just felt like it would make a really interesting, unique, cool movie. And, you know, there aren't a lot of movies out there about gay porn.

So I figured, no, there isn't. Not like mainstream. Why not give it a go? Yeah. And I think maybe, even though it wasn't porn, but I think like Magic Mike and films like that have kind of opened up

maybe more of that sex industry into being in mainstream film, which is good. Well, it's great for everybody. Sex sells, right? Yeah, exactly. And you've got some fabulous people who are cast in the movie. Like Molly Ringwald has come out of, come back, she's coming back, which is an odd choice for her, I think, like considering her, like, bubble gum history for her role. So I was really excited to see Molly.

She's awesome. And James Franco, you've got Garrett, it was Garrett, it was Garret. Gary Clayton, who plays your lead. He's a lead. He comes from a Disney channel past, and so, you know, it's his wilder crossover grown-up role. Yeah. And he's absolutely gorgeous as well. And was he, is he gay straight or was he playing or?

I mean, I don't know. Okay. He's playing gay. Okay. And he kind of just, just, I was like trying to find someone who had that sort of split appeal of being able to have the kind of young boyish sort of look. But at the same time, be able to pull off that kind of confident porn star vibe. Yeah, because I saw the, if you want to check out the trailers, guys, I went on to Google and you can find the trailer for King Cobra. And the little snippets that I got to see was super realistic.

I really felt like it was this boy, young guy, you know, being asked to take off his clothes for his first ever porn. Oh, yeah. Very, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He, you know, plays a super seemingly kind of naive kid from San Diego who's trying to make. make something of his life and get out of his mother's apartment and make some money and does it by going to some guy's basement in Pennsylvania and making porn. And is it set, is it set modern day or is it because it was a true story?

Is it set back in the time of? Yeah, it's period, but you know, pretty recent period. It was early to mid-2000s. Okay. You know, so not that long ago, but it was long enough ago to where we still had to be particular with costumes and set dressing and, you know, old websites and computers and cameras and it was really fun for me because you know early 2000s are fun you get to go back yeah it's like metro because oh yeah all of the what was what was the early digital camcorders yeah like

yeah like flip phones and things like that yeah yeah yeah all the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so like long enough to where you know we did pay attention to that but it made it really fun actually to make and and there's a because even the porn industry's changed in the last 10 years then because so much is just all about like internet internet internet but back in the day there was a lot of in porn movies. So I can understand maybe the murder, like the reason for murder and it's a big business. Yeah, I mean, a big part of the story, you know, it's to the Joe and Harlow played by Joe is James Franco, Harlow is Keegan Allen. And they are these two wild, you know, they start off

as kind of gay escorts. So that's the company they run. And they move into porn to make more money and become obsessed with Brent Corrigan, Gary Clayton's character. And it was all true. They really thought, they made a lot of money, but then they, they made a lot of money. but then they fell into really heavy debt, you know, so American. Yeah. And they've really believed that making a video with this star Brent Corrigan would make them millions. They truly became obsessed with it to the point to where it led to a murder because the only way to kind of get Brent free from this contract was to off the producer who sort of like held the contract, which is crazy. To even think that you would do that in the first place, let alone get away with it.

you know, I mean they, yeah, but unhinged. And casting-wise, did you approach people for roles or did you have lots of auditions? How was like the pretend porn audition process? Well, James Franco was attached before I wrote this script because he's a producer on it. And he really, you know, without him, the film never would have happened. He was the same with my first film, I am Michael. He was very like instrumental in getting it off the ground and helping, you know, get it made and finance and everything. And yeah, so he was attached from day one.

and of course, that helped get other people involved. And the next was the Stephen character. And I knew that James worked with Christian Slater on this film called Adderall Diaries. Oh, yeah. And I just was, I'm such a Slater fan. I grew up with Heather's in true romance. And he's just so fucking cool. Oh, wait, I can cuss.

Yeah, you can swear. You can swear. It's food. He's so cool. And, but, you know, he's never played gay and it's a pretty wild role for first time gay character. Yeah. You know, he's a gay pornographer. into very young boys.

So I didn't know if he'd be interested at all. But he read this script and we had dinner and talked about it. And he signed on really quickly. But I think just sort, you know, not that he was so excited in that sense, I think just thought, you know, he can only imagine the scripts that these actors get plenty of great scripts, but this one, it did stand out because it's really, it's a really wild story. And I think he just got excited at the idea of doing something different.

And so this is, is this your second sort of major? And how did you go, right, I want to, I want to direct? This is what I want, did you want to act before? Oh, I always wanted, in my whole life. I've always wanted to be a filmmaker. Okay. Yeah, always wanted to direct. Yeah, I don't know why.

I just went to movies with my dad all the time. And it's just been my obsession. And so I wanted to fight to the death to become a director. And it's, you're doing it. Long road to get here, but it was paid off and it was worth it. And so what's next? What would be your, now that you've done two substantial films, what would be the next project? Talk.

It's kind of, I actually already shot my third film, which is nuts. Okay. Yeah, it was really cool. We shot Cobra, actually, we shot Cobra exactly a year ago. Wow. Quick turnaround. It was a very quick turnaround. From script to the entire process was so fast.

It almost feels, I'm very lucky. Yeah. And then this past summer, so, you know, Cobra was completely done post-wise. We premiered at Tribeca in April. And then because of the response from the festival, I was able to get a third film off the ground that we shot that summer. So just a couple months ago.

And it's a complete departure. It's kind of a family drama. It's not gay. It's not a true story. Okay. I want to mix it up. Yeah, because people might be a little bit like, oh, okay, so you do the gay true stories and be like, no, no, boom.

I don't want to be put in a corner. Try this. Yeah. Try a family drama with a weird supernatural kind of backstory. It's great. Amazing. And what would be the future, future goals then? Where would you like to sort of, what would be the real I've made it moment?

Good question. I mean, I'm always kind of drawing. towards sort of scandalous or controversial or, you know, weird stories. But I definitely want to, you know, to make one that would be a bit more accessible, like a bit more mainstream, which, you know, I feel like is on the horizon. So, yeah, there's not a particular story or genre or anything. Just, you know, if I can continue to make cool stories that are unique and different, but that are also, you know, accessible, which, oddly enough, this one I think will be, even though it's about gay porn, but just it's a bit, you know, it's a really entertaining movie and funny at times

in a way you wouldn't expect. So, yeah, I don't know, just keep making. Cool. Well, thank you. All the best of luck. Yes, well, you're absolutely killing it right now. So just keep running. Keep running. I'm going to keep running.

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the next half an hour. And have any of you guys played cards against humanity? Because I'm going to be introducing it to the guys and we're going to be playing that hilarious, awful game. Hilarious, awful? What am I trying to say? It's awfully hilarious. Okay, we're going to go to our next song. This is Land of a Thousand Dancers by Wilson Pickett, which was featured in the film The Full Monty. So I'm one of my faves currently at the moment. One, two, three. One, two, three.

But a Wilson Pickett there. That song ended way before it said on the track. Oh, now he's still going. That would be why. That's why. That's why. It went down and up. Wilson Pickett.

Is that what the fuck you've been playing while I've been out of it? That's from the Monty. Monty vibe, not Monty Five. That's from the Full Monty soundtrack. Full Monty soundtrack. Oh, great, great choice. Fantastic film. I will save you, listeners, I will save it.

He's not liking my music choices. So do you have like a selection each? Because last time I was here was just you, so you was just running the film. So I was just literally putting on whatever the fuck I like. I don't have it. So Doc Brown's here. Doc Brown's here. Oh, yeah.

That's the third voice you're hearing. Yeah, who, wow. Doc Brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't. No, I just kind of let her choose the music. I just let her know if I disapprove. I see.

I see. You know, he's basically just whingges. Real positive influence. Yeah. I'll be like, what the hell is this? Why are you choosing this? Well, you bring you to the table. Well, I'm not.

I don't have any alternatives, but I'm just saying I hate your music. Yeah, essentially. Essentially, that's what happens. You're just judging me. I like music and I love soundtracks, and every song I play is in a movie somewhere. Okay.

So it's related to the film industry. Nice. All right. And it's a big wide, you know, got a wide variety of people listening. Yeah, but also it's the banter in it. Like, she knows I love her, so I let her pick her thing. It just, it's an extra 10 minutes of me giving her a hard time,

which people, like they email they like the dynamic between i see sitting on me sitting on me that's a different show that's a different show that's after night so how you doing man what's happening i'm good i'm good i'm having so much needed respite it was it was it was kind of a couple of years there of not really resting at all i guess because you know when opportunities come your way in our business and you know how short that you know that period of time that your candle might burn,

you know, I've just been going for it. But yeah, I got off like the press junket for Ricky's film, Ricky Jaze's film. And did you guys, where did you tour? Where did you tour? Well, we did, we just did everywhere, but we didn't have to travel everywhere. So a lot of people came to London.

So you didn't get to go to Japan or anything? No, no, no. We dealt with all the press, all the press, but most people came to a hotel. See, I think we're losing out. I think we're losing out, you know, Doc, because, you know, our friend, Arnold, you know, Arnold Oching. Yes. You know, he did the good lie.

And he toured the world. I don't know why we can't tour the world. Like, he's in Japan, places where they don't even have black people. And Arnold was it. That's very true. But I guess if you speak to, if you speak to most actors, they would tell you that that's the real sort of graft of the job that they don't necessarily look forward to, you know. But, you know, these days you're contracted to that the same way as you're contracted. contracted to act in the flipping film.

I want three kids. I look forward to it. Yeah, okay, yeah. I know that. I know that and I hear that. I think the one thing I learned from it is the first time I've ever done it is that if the film is good, that job is a hell of a lot easier because there was some days where I wasn't even sure if I was saying the same thing twice to the same interviewer because you were doing like 10, 15 in a row. Yeah.

And I just thought, wow, imagine if the film was shit. that must be so hard and that must happen every day to act. So when Doctor just said we do 10 to 15 interviews in a row we're talking about literally because people don't know this we literally sit in the room

and people coming back to back yeah yeah back to back and the biggest break you'll get is when someone will go do you want any more water and that's it I don't need any more water or if you need to go toilet

yeah and sometimes you don't have time for that and here's the interesting thing most of these people come in and they go you've probably heard this all day I've got a really original question though and they ask the same damn questions that we've been asked all day long, am I lying?

That's very, very true. And I think any time someone just comes out of left field with a question, they get the best interview. And it really makes me laugh, listening to interviews or pre-records with other actors, other artists, and then when it comes back to the studio live,

the host will say something along the lines of, oh yeah, I think he was a bit jet-lagged. He wasn't very responsive. And I'm thinking, I'm sat there listening at home thinking, yeah, but your questions was so boring. You've been hearing the same shit all day. I'm just breaking my chair.

I was just trash it. I am listening, but you know what I'm saying? I do. If you want to get the best out of an artist, then engage them. So there's a film show on, I don't want to plug other film shows, but there's a film show on Five Live

with Simon Mayo and Mark Kermode. I quite like them, though. And I take, well, they're big fans of you, man. I love them, actually. They're big fans of you. Mark, my G. Yeah, I mean, he bigs you up regular. Anyway, when Simon's away, I take his place.

Fantastic. And the last time I was on it, I interviewed Ben Kingsley. So I was part of that junket, the other side. And I could see what the other interviewers are doing. And I just thought, I'm just like, because the BBC was saying, this is what you should say, this is what you shouldn't say. And I was like, you know what? Let me do it my way.

I just feel like, I don't know the guy, but I feel like I can engage in. So number one, I'm not going to call him Sir Ben. I'm just going to chat to him. Yeah. And they were like, ooh, I don't know. And I was like, did you go, yo, Benny? B BK

You know what Obviously I bigged up his movie I'd seen it So I thought You know what It's actually It's a decent movie So I don't have to lie

So that's a good thing Yeah So I big up the movie Got him Got him on side And then I said I did a bit of research on him And I didn't realize

He was of mixed parentage You know Yes So I said You know what Like I've found Like as an actor Having a mixture

Of cultures In my family It's informed me on, like, it's given me, I don't want to say a universal voice, but it's made me open me up from a young age to very different experiences, which I think has informed my skills as an actor.

What do you think about that? Coming from a biracial background, and you should have seen his eyes lit up. His eyes just lit up and he was fully engaged and then from that point on in the interview, I swear down, you can look this up on the eye player or whatever. He goes, see, the thing about you and I

then, the thing about people like us is we are social chameleons you know and and in thinking about you and i yeah people like me people like you yeah i was like oh bro no one's getting this interview today of course not of nobody i'm very i'm very proud of it but you know it just goes to show yeah one small thing that's just sort of off 100% just just out of left field you're gonna engage it to you know because jana does that and we often try to we try to educate our young listeners well not young but our listeners that a lot of them want to get into the business. If you ever become someone who's interviewing talent, you know, always look for a different

angle. Don't just go in with the same questions. Try and, you know, like Doc just said there, he found a way to engage Ben Kingsley and probably got the best interview out of everyone. And I think it's not just a cynical thing of just trying to get the best interview. That should be standard practice anyway. It's about just trying to be interested and understand that these people could have had 20 or 30 people in that day.

And also think genuinely about a conversation that you would be interested in. Yeah. Like if you think about, you. when you see your mates, you're not going to ask them the same stuff. Do you mean? You're going to want a fresh, interesting conversation every time you see your mates.

So think about it like that. How is that packet of Chris, Bill? Well, John just asked me that. Well, I'm asking you again, just aren't. I find hiding alcohol in my underwear that always is a nice icebreaker for my interviews. Yeah. I don't have any right now.

She says. There we go. Whiskey. Yeah. We're talking like airplane miniatures here. Yeah. It's kind of like been my little thing when I do junkets. If I'm interviewing celebrities, I'll like whip out just to break the ice.

Nice. Or do something, yeah, just do something completely wacky. Yeah. And it works. She's got that down. You've been doing pretty well with that, actually. Yeah, I've been doing a couple. Or do like fraudulent slips or things like that.

Okay. Because they're always like, did she just, just wake them up a bit? Yeah, yeah. People, they think I look quite, you know, nice and in a nice. listen and then I'll just like I went in my first ever interview was with Marlon Wayans for 50 Shades of Black and like I went in and I was like hello and I thought he he was like great another you know interview and I was like so 50 shades of grey was good is black better and then he looked he sort of like I see what was open and then like oh I didn't even if he just went off

on another level of sexual endoendo there you go some lessons out there so tell me man so tell me how did how did you find the whole life on the road because I'm assuming and Forgive me if I'm wrong, you know, I'm not always up in it. You know what it's like when you work in this business, you don't always see your peers work all the time. That's your biggest project today, right? Without doubt, you know, I mean, my sort of, my work on TV was getting more developed with each job,

which is nice. You know, I kind of make a point of trying to do something that I haven't done before and push myself. So I'd just completed probably my second sort of big kind of mainstream drama, which was a series for ITV-1 called Brief Encounters. and I had the opportunity to play a character over six episodes who was really going through some shit and it was just like it was such a beautiful opportunity for me

because I've always felt that I've been able to do it but as soon as you become accustomed to comedy or you're seen as somebody who does comedy a lot of the time you're not trusted with these kind of dramatic roles so I'd done that but I always knew I'd known for a couple of years that the Ricky movie was on the cards because we work closely together outside of the movie world and have done for, well, for about three and a half years now.

You know, I've been writing together. I didn't know that. That's amazing. And in 2013, we did a sketch based on the two characters for the movie. I've seen that, yeah. For comic relief. And since then, we've been talking about putting a movie together. So it was a different experience to all the other acting work I've done

because obviously all the other work I've been, you know, auditioning for and just trying to get involved. you know whereas the movie I was there from the inception so did you write on the movie as well yeah yeah so you've got co-written credit or no the way it's done is like you know everything is

yeah everything is is written and directed by by Ricky which is kind of understandable because it's his baby but the way Ricky works is similar to Larry David or to Christopher guest in that he creates

scenes and allows looseness for the actors to contribute. But I was there from a blank page and I was contributing written stuff from the very beginning. Fantastic. For my character and for our scenes together. And, you know, I guess I was hoping

for a co-writing credit. But yeah, you have to search pretty far down the credits to find any reference to it. It's cool. I like being the underdog. I'm always the underdog. And I think when you see... I'm always an underdog.

That's true. I think when you see the movie, and you see what my character's doing, I think it's kind of clear that only one person could have written. For people who haven't seen the film, what is your character? Who do you play within the... Okay, so the film sort of...

It's a contrivance, it's a mock documentary, it's a contrivance that the film crew are picking up on David Brent's life 12 years after, yeah, years later, after the original documentary of the office and finding out where he is now. And where he is now is, is very troubled.

He's been through therapies, he's had a nervous breakdown, and he's come out of the back of that and decided that what he's going to do is spend every penny that he's got on trying to become the rock star that he always felt he could be. So that's kind of the conceit.

And then my character, I play a guy that he saw at an open mic, a rapper that he saw on an open mic that he agrees to manage and then sort of just steps all over his fledgling career forces him to come on tour with him

with this awful, you know, rock band and it's, you know, it's kind of a buddy movie there's a fish out of war element to it as well and, you know, it's two guys who really shouldn't be together but are and they sort of learn to, yeah, go on. What do you think, what do you think's in the air this year in terms of like

you know, the music scene, the quotation mark, urban music scene seems to come back and then films like Life on the Road, which is Ricky David Brent after 12 years. Bridget Jones, which is Bridget Jones after 12 years. Brotherhood as well. It's come back as a film after 10 years or 10 years.

I mean, do you think that, you know, and I know I'm responsible for one of those and you are partly as well, but do you think that we're running out of ideas or do you think that bringing back these brands is something that is a good thing for cinema because they've all come out and they've all done numbers. So like, you know, what should take on? question because Bridget Jones has done

amazing. I've really enjoyed it. I'll be honest, I didn't see that coming. No, I did I did. But I think I always believe if there's genuinely a story to tell them, why not? I've always thought that. Yeah. Because I think you can tell the difference. I think

the audience can tell the difference when it's like, whoa, we had to do another one. Otherwise, the box set wouldn't have really been a box set. Do you mean? You know, all right. So, you know, I think you know, you look at a film like Creed. I expected Creed to be awful and I think it's pretty

much widely accepted that that was a great return to form. And if you really analyze it, it is just Rocky all over again with a different character. But it works and I think sometimes when there's something, when there's

a tried and tested format that works but more importantly that people love elements within that format if you can honestly tell some kind of a new story around that, then why the hell not? Yeah, but you know what I mean as well? Because obviously I know why I did it, but it feels like it's

not just coincidence. There must have been a feeling in the air of people going, you know what? We should bring these back, you know what I mean? And they're more coming out of the same. And our films have done numbers as well, just they're not the same budget as Bridget Jones. Of course. With our movie, the decision was made based on sort of general

feedback because, you know, we we we put these characters together for comic relief and we just waited for the video to go online and see what the feedback was like and it was crazy I mean we thought it might be good we felt

what we did was funny but it was way better than we imagined and we sort of based our initial decisions of you know self confidence on that on on that the bigger question of whether we're running out of ideas or not who knows I think I always think

sort of like peaks and troughs you know with with movies there's always a period where everything's based on a book as well you know everything's like where are the original screenplays you know who are the guys that are just just come up with a great idea and it is a movie

because you know films often get compared unfavourably to a book and understandably so because you can get more detail and emotion out of a book every time yeah but I do think it's peaks and troughs because there's always something around the corner that comes up and changes the game. Boom.

And we have done that. Well, guys, I want to play. I've got a challenge to bring you guys. We're going to go Facebook live in a minute. So I'm going to... Facebook live. I'm going to quickly get the game ready. We've had a lot of emails coming in

and being like, oh my gosh. Noel and Doc together. This has been my dream. Oh, yeah. It's amazing. Can you guys work together? Martha. In Labra Grove.

Yeah, Marfa. We're going to take a second. What kind of dream, Martha? What kind of dream? That's what I want to know. I bet you want to know. Right, we'll be right back and we're going to play cards against humanity.

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From 12 p.m. on Foobar Radio. Okay, we're back. I was just trying to explain the rules and I thought might as well explain the rules to everyone who's listening. It's cards against humanity. It's one of the best like pub games

or anything for a night out. It's kind of, it's a game of wit. It's going to test your wit and see how funny you are because you guys both write comedy so let's see who's funny. I don't write comedy. That's not how we describe Noel Clark

by year. I don't write comedy. Okay, so it's white cards and black cards. Okay. I'm going to go first round. So normally the person who plays the black cards, it's the first person who poop that day, the last person who's pooped that day.

But we're going to forget that, and I'm going to just, it's the actual rules of the game. I don't play the shit, you know. What am I supposed to do? So the point is, for example, I will read a black card, which is normally a statement,

and on the white cards, you have got funny answers. Okay. So I'm going to read out a statement. We'll do a mock one, which is in the new Disney Channel original movie, Hannah Montana,

struggles with blank for the first time. And you guys have got to look through your cards, find what you think is the funniest filler. You heard it to me. Yeah, I read it out, and then whoever I think wins the funniest answer. I can look at these. I didn't realize I could look at all of them.

Okay, great. Okay, so for the first round, that was, we'll put that one down. I'll pull out another black card. I've laid out mine. I've got 10 here. Yeah, I'm laying them out now. Okay, so this is the first one. Ready?

Yes, yes. So instead of Cole, Santa, now gives the bad children blank. Who's going first? Just submit, submit to me. I'd go for horse meat. Okay, well, you can hand it to me.

Oh, I'll give it to you, do I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then hand me yours? And then I will go, I'll go, instead of Cole, Santa now gives the bad children horse meat. Or instead of Cole, Santa now gives the children a middle-aged man on roller skates. That's easily that way.

No, you win that worst round. I thought I might have with that one. Okay. So the second one, what's there a ton of in heaven? I'm going to give you some more white cards so that you can be creative there. Okay, Noel, we've got Knowles in there. So I'm not going to look at what it is. I'm going to wait until I read it out to give you guys fair.

Dak, what's you? I'm liking this game. It's so funny. Okay, so what's there a ton of in heaven? Authentic Mexican cuisine? That's hard to come by. What's there a ton of in heaven? An erection that lasts for longer than four hours.

It's even harder to come back. I think the erection is going to win that round. I think you got a round each. Well done. Well done. Okay, awesome. Okay, so the next round. What helps Obama unwind?

What do you think? I'm going to go for that one. Okay, got docs. Yeah, I'm not looking what it is. This is kind of more political than it is funny. Okay. What helps? What helps Obama unwind?

Sexy pillow fights. Okay, okay. What helps Obama unwind? Not giving a shit about the third world. Political, see? Okay, no. No one wins that one to low blow. It is easier.

Okay. What gets better with age? Hmm. What does that work? Oh, man, this is disgusting. I'm laughing already. I don't even know what it is. Okay.

My one is technically true actually. Oh, okay. Mine is 100% not true and anyone who agrees with it needs to see a doctor. What gets better with age? Child beauty pageants. That's dark, though.

It's dark but class. What gets better with age? Concealing a boner. It does. Yeah, because they stop being a strong. They're both true. It's not like the old days where you just get up halfway

through your lesson in class and it's just there. I used to be able to hang a wet beach towel and mash it now. Now it just drops to the ground like. I feel it. I know. I know the, yeah. I bet you do. Seriously. Those are the days. Right. Next one. Okay.

What would grandma find disturbing yet oddly charming? Okay, I've got him the selection from the dark. So what would grandma find disturbing yet oddly charming? No, you got a pick one. These are all shit That's the problem Once you've been for the first few rounds

I can give you Okay so What would Grandma find Oh no no this one This one Okay you're right you can change it What would grandma find disturbing Yet oddly charming

Goblins Goblins What would grandma find disturbing Yet oddly charming The clitoris Yeah I bet grandma's never found actually Depends when she was born

Do you know what If she's born before 97, she's one of those hook grannies from now where she's like 37. Oh yeah, she knows where that's. When I first played this game, I played it with my younger brother, and we all played it, and he got that and he went, what's the clitoris? We first time, we're like, Google it, mate. This is a problem. This is a problem.

How old is your brother? He was about 17th time. This is a problem, you see. You young boys don't know where the details are. The goods are. Yeah. You got to research that. That's why an old man like me can take you a girl.

I can't say that I knew when I was 17 Of course you did come on, Doc I can't say that I knew I don't know Yeah man I knew My mum was a nurse I'd be reading the anatomy books When she's at work

Nice I had a book in my house That was called The Breast But there was nothing about The Clitoris in there It was very scientific It was just about the breast And that was

Just one breast Or like Early volumes No it was Bob, Bob the Breast It was about One of the Mistem in But like

It was called the breast I guess that gave it Sort of gravitas No mom As soon as she's, I'm going to work, darling. All right, Mom, bam, anatomy. Yeah, no, I was the same with the breast. That's exactly the same.

That's quite a shame that all you had was a little scientific. No, I also had the Littlewood's catalogue. Oh, okay. Yes, I had the next catalogue. Yeah. The underwear section. Boom, oh my gosh. There used to be this girl in there and she had these pubs

and you can see them through her pants and everything. I used to go in nuts, man. Such an innocent time when you think about it. I'm innocent. It was so innocent. The Littlewood's catalog. Yeah. Oh, mate, we're out of time.

Oh, man. I think, I think you won that. Reminis. Early masturbation, Doc Brown, no clock. Tune in next week. Thanks so much for coming on again. Amazing.

We're going to go for our last song. I missed you last time. Thank you. Yeah, okay, so I'm going to go for our last song of the day, which is from the Deadpool soundtrack again. There was two that I liked on there. So thanks for tuning in everyone today.

We'll see you next week for... What's the song? It's Canada Girl. Great. I will save you. I'll wait, guys. Have a good weekend. King is back.

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