Bad Dates with Jameela Jamil - But My Craft (w/ Conor Janda, Misha Brown, and Alistair Ogden)

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

On an all new episode of Bad Dates, host Joel Kim Booster welcomes comedians Conor Janda, Misha Brown, and Alistair Ogden to discuss their most iconic dating fiascos. Conor sets sail on a voyage of discovery with Chekhov’s tan, Misha’s wearing ship goggles but he might just float away, and Alistair weighs anchor but the good ship Double Date runs aground. Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video clips.Merch available at SiriusXMStore.com/BadDates. Joel Kim Booster: Psychosexual, Fire Island, Loot Season 2Conor Janda: @conorjanda on Insta and on Substack when Conor figures that out, web series Boys’ Club returns in October! Misha Brown:@yourbestiemisha, podcast The Big Flop, debut book Be Your Own Bestie out in February!Alistair Ogden:@alistairogden, on tour in North America this fall! Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Bad Dates ad-free. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

Bad Dates. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Bad Dates, the podcast. This, for those of you who are joining us for maybe the first time, is a podcast about exactly what it sounds like. Bad Dates, your bad dates, your bad hookups, your bad relationships, your bad. your bad marriages, we cover it all the full spectrum of human relationship here on this pod. I invite a couple of my funniest friends, and we just shoot the shit, and they use their trauma as a form of entertainment for you. Joining me today is a comedian who was just named one of the new faces of comedy at the Just for Last Festival. He is one of the co-creators of

Boys Club Comedy, and he is on tour with his new hour side notes. It's Conor Janda. Hi. We also have a comedian, actor, musician, and digital creator, who is known for the TikTok series Lessons and Not Crossing a Gay Man. He is now the host of the hip podcast, The Big Flop. Misha Brown. Misha, welcome. Hey, bestie. Podcast swap.

Yeah, you're on my podcast. I did yours. Now you're doing mine. I love that. It's reprecipitosity or whatever. I'm not going to try and say it again. Not going to try and say it again. And finally, we welcome a comedian who was also one of the new faces of comedy in Montreal

this year. His comedy special is Alistair Ogden does his best. It's Alistair Ogden, everybody. Ready? Hello. Hi. Guys, it's so nice to have two new faces on with two very old faces. Now you have to guess which one.

Yeah, I know, you have to ask me. I initially, I wanted to stir drama. No, that's so cool. I know what a big deal it is. I was a new face 10 years ago, if you can believe it. And it changed everything. Signed to seal with, you'd never know. I was so, so new.

But before we begin, jump into your stories. I do have a quick icebreaker question for you. We here at bad dates, we gathered together some relationship experts, and we compile the list of questions that you should ask your first date or ask yourself before a first date to ensure future success. And today, the question is, what is something your date could say they were into that would immediately give you the ick? So movies, television, pop culture, food, behavior, what is it? Bad dates. We'll start with Alistair. Oh, this is a tough one for me because I feel like it's actually a problem where I people can kind of say anything to me and if I'm if I'm into

them then I it doesn't matter that's a real problem I need to me a recent example um well I do I do have sort of a history of um just saying yes and dating people and just keeps saying yes even even if I'm not fully interested I see you are immune to the ick you there's nothing anyone could do to I feel like if you're into it. Yeah, I do, I do, I do think there are certain things, obviously, like, I feel like certain sociopolitical things if people said, you know, things like that, things like that, obviously. But that feels like something that's wholly separate from the, the ick. The ick feels like something little.

Yeah, I guess if your date said, like, I'm really into the paintings of Hitler, that would, that would sort of, yeah, exactly, catapult you beyond ick to concern and alarm. event. I do have one small ick thing. I did think about this. I think if someone said they were into the band, Imagine Dragons. See, that is, that is the perfect answer. And see, I'm so glad that this, you had to look inward a little bit. You had to sit with the question. Yeah. But now you know a little bit more about yourself. Um, so Connor, um, same question. What is something someone could say they are into that would give you the immediate it. Okay. This is a safe space, I think. And I'm open to people being upset about this. But I think, but I think,

that if a man is, like, crazy obsessed with dogs, like, I don't mean that he likes dogs. I mean that he's, like, obsessed with dogs, he's going to have borderline personality disorder. No, absolutely. I have a friend who dumped him, or I have a friend who, a guy he was dating, dumped him because

he sent him a cute picture of a golden retriever, and the guy was such a dog guy that he was like, how dare you send me this pure breed dog? Like, do you know, like, the history and the implication and blah, blah, blah. And they had been on like four or five dates at this point, and he cut things off because my friend merely sent him

a picture of the golden retriever. So I think, I totally understand where you're coming from because of this example. I think sometimes if a man is like obsessed with dogs in like a crazy way, it's because he can't emotionally connect with humans or things that will help him accountable. I mean, I think that's true of cat people too. I think that's true of anybody who really, one of those like, I like animals better than people, people, you know? Because it's like, whenever I hear someone say that, I understand, I get it. You're dealing with trauma.

You're sort of projecting it onto an animal. But it's just, I don't. It's like, it's like, it's like me. I'm here. Yeah. It's hard. Yes, I want to absorb your trauma, not this cat. That's such a good answer, Connor.

And I think it's one that people, it's really going to start discussions. It's really going to start some conversations in the car. I have a feeling. And finally, last but not least. Misha, what is the thing that someone could say they were into that would give you the it? You know, I was thinking about it, and I think it's people who trick me. It's like they tell me what they are into, but that's not what they meant.

Do you know, like, so, for example, if someone was like, I'm into light choking, but then they meant emotionally. You know, like instead of putting their hands around my neck, they're really just like reminding me of my student loan balance or something stupid. So what you're saying is you would prefer the choking to... I would prefer the choking, just leave itself esteem alone, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very true, very fair, very, very fair indeed. Bad dates. On to the meat of the podcast.

This story time, everybody. And we're going to start with Connor. Connor, give me a little bit of context. for where you're at today, relationship-wise. Okay, great. Okay, so today I live in New York City, and I am single, I date around. I am, my, my heart is not given to anyone, but my craft. Yes.

And a little bit, don't you feel like you're also dating New York in a, in a way? Yes, I do. Yes, yes. Now, I would love for someone to come ruin my life. I want that, but it hasn't. Has that ever happened? Has that happened to you thus far in your life? Has anyone ruined your life in that way?

I think that, like, my sobriety is relevant to this. I'm nine years sober from alcohol. Yeah. Snap, snap, snap. No, no, no, it's okay. I just feel like because of that I'm super susceptible, like, to, I want to be love bomb. Like, I would like to be love bombs. I'd like to be, I am so, like, open to a relapse in that way, which is good because, like,

I can't die from that theoretically, but, like, it's, you know, it's, you know, theoretically if it's a man watching a true crime yeah you're not watching on enough date line yeah and i'm not i'm not enough murdered on the internet where it's like a grind sorry that's negative um yeah so okay so were you um were you at a serial dater before you got you were in this career focused period of your life were you a like somebody who was in long-term relationships or is it mostly just situationships like a bunch of three-month things where it would be like okay like this was so great and like And then I would, I feel like I am hard at, like, not great at emotionally connecting.

And then, or he would hate me suddenly, one of those two things that happened. And then we'd fizzle out. And then I was in one there's a little more long term that was like a year-ish. And I was, like, so obsessed with him, I would have died for him. I would have died. I was like, career. I just wanted to be. Yeah.

See, and again, you just said, like, not two minutes ago that you could not die from this other addiction. You're talking about him. And you just uttered, I would die for him. I literally would have. I loved him so much. Like, actually, I do think that it was, I think that my behavior with that was, it really mirrored my behavior with alcoholism. Yeah.

It was like the same thing. It's all the same. Yeah. But he was so great. And when it was great, you know. Yes, when it was great. Same thing with alcohol, I'm sure. Yeah.

But to give, set us in your timeline, where does your story take place? Okay, I'm 17. Whoa. when it takes place. Wow. So it is pre this guy. Yeah. Pre this guy, stakes feel very high, likely aren't very high in reality.

Correct. Set the scene. Tell us your story. Tell us your tale. Okay, I'll just, like, throw a bunch of details. I'm not sure which ones are relevant, but to me, they're relevant. Okay, so I was 17 years old. I grew up in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and, like, it's senior year of high school.

You kind of know the vibe. Senior year, you're out as bisexual, I guess, and kind of, like, dipping your toe. And people are going to say that that's bisexual erasure. And it's like, but to say that the gay guys don't come out as bye would be me a racer. So like everyone's journey. That was your journey. Yeah. It was my journey.

I needed to be by for a minute so I could be gay. Just because it's not always true does not mean it's not sometimes true, you know? Thank you for saying that. Okay. So I was 17. I had like a really intense tanning addiction at the time, which is like a little bit irrelevant to the story. I mean, you know, it's really, I asked you to paint the picture and you've just painted us a really glorious picture. it kind of will come up in this so like I'm really tan like dark like dark dark dark kind of problematic and I was about to say it was a cancelable I'll send you pictures it was not it was not it was not good and okay so I was like really tan and then there was this like I had this like really close friend in high school and he was dating this girl and we all like did plays together and the guy he like would drive me to Wawa I don't know if you know Wawa yeah oh yeah familiar and he would just like smoke weed in it oh it's like oh my god you're from Canada

Canada. Okay, so Wawa is kind of like a bodega. Oh, what's that? What's, no, isn't it like, it's sort of a cross between like a CVS or Walgreens and like a grocery store, right? Yeah, like it's like an elevated bodega. You're just listing American businesses. I love it. That is Wawa, though. It's like, it's like Tim Horton's if they sold toiletries and groceries and gas. Yeah, and gas. Yeah. And it like wouldn't survive in a city, but in the suburbs it's like, it would be. gross in his city but in a suburb it's perfect and he would like drive me to wawa and i would like watch him smoke weed and then he dated this girl and that actually that whole part was kind of irrelevant but he and the girl ultimately did break up and then that guy came out as gay but he came out like years later and now he lives in bedstay and so yeah so then the girl and then she says to me

this is senior year of high school she says to me i want to lose my virginity to someone that cares about me and i'm by so okay so it's sort of a put up or shut up moment for you Yes. Well, part of my thought process genuinely at the time I was like, I'm a senior in high school. I'm going to college for theater. And I like knew that I was not attracted to this woman. And I probably was not supposed to do this. But I was like, this might be something I have to act. Like this is going to help me is that I'm an artist. I'm a T. I'm a T.A. actor. Now, were you going for musical theater? Were you going for just straight acting? Just acting. Okay. So, yeah, you were getting you were doing your, you were getting your Marlon Brando Jeuge on right now. Going full math. Yes. Yeah.

I auditioned with like Equis, like as a child, which is like gross. Oh my God. And to knock it in with Equis is humiliating. Like when they're like, yeah, yeah. So then she says this and at the time we were like, what's kind of relevant to this like to where this ultimately happened was so she says this and I'm like, okay, great, we're going to do this. And we do it on the night of like right before there's this like girl that has cancer in our town

and she's totally fine now. she's like married and has a kid I don't know and so kind of got worse somehow and so she has this event called Broadway wishes which is like a bunch of theater kids sing songs to raise money for cancer and or like against cancer I don't know cancer cancer is losing the battle we need even the playroom playing field. Big cancer throws a concert every year okay gay theater kids honestly like they can do anything like if they were more involved in the resistant like they can do anything. And so they were like raising money for this. And then, but like I was only in one number and but my dad like needed to know where the car was at all times, which I always think is

crazy because like when older men would drive me to the liquor store, we'd take their cars every time. So like, I didn't need to know where your car is. But I would, so I always had to tell him where the car was. So I like, I wasn't allowed to go tanning. Um, because like he wouldn't be into that. But I was, but I was next to the church where they would rehearse, we'd rehearse at a church. And like next to the church was a tanning salon. So I'd park the car at the rehearsal and then walk over the tanning salon, and it was like, cancer's kind of contagious in that one way. So, like, so I'm really tan, and that's the night of Broadway wishes. I'm in one song.

It's from Spring Awakening, and I do kind of not very good job. No, you have to tell us which one. It was the one where there's, like, two ghosts, and those you've known, thus they walk behind you. That was actually really good. Yeah, actually. I'm actually really shocked you didn't have formal training in your BFA program. Thank you for saying that.

Yeah. So you're incredibly tanned. You're about to have sex with this girl as a favor to her. For both of us, yeah. For both of us? Yeah, no, actually, I'm sorry. I forgot about your career. I forgot about your craft. Yeah. So it's for both of you. Irish dialect and fucking women, I guess, would have been on my list of social skills. Pre-wrack. Can't graduate without it. Actually, you know, that's crazy. Is the time I hooked up with a girl also happened. while I was in undergrad for a BFA in acting.

So I guess it is something you have to do before you get one. Huh. Yeah. Well, anyways. I think especially before comedy, there was this like, not to like get into it, but like there was this feeling where it's like, God, like, because this was like I wanted to be a serious actor, but I was also like for sure really gay. And so I was kind of like, oh, like I really am going to have to bridge this gap somehow and

this feels like an opportunity. Can I just say, can I just say it's, it's crazy that you guys. guys as gay men were having more heterosexual sex during your BFAs than I was as a straight man. There's just a jenese qua about an obviously gay guy to certain women, I guess. It's like the thing they can't have. And by the way, I had been out for like four years by the time this happened. So I was like, all really solidly at Kinsey 6, I thought.

And then, you know, you drink enough. and you get it. Yeah. That was involved. We were wine drunk too. So, like, yeah, there was wine involved, which, yeah. So, like, we go to her house after this concert. I do, like, not a very good job, but it's fine because I'm like, I'm a senior in high school and like, nothing matters.

Then we go to her house and she has two moms, which is, like, totally irrelevant to the story. But I just, I had to say, I don't know. It feels really relevant. Just really painting a picture. It's just so crazy that it's like, why do we have, like, yeah, I don't know. I guess I made her feel safe because I was part of the LGBTQ. I don't know. And so we're in there and we like, we're like kind of wine drunk and we like, we do the thing.

And people are always like, did you fuck her? And it's like, I docked it. I don't know what to tell you. Like I docked it. I don't know if that counts. There's no, who's the judge? You pulled into the harbor, but you didn't. There was not a lot of.

I was in the harbor, but I, yeah, but it never, the anchor was never, we were never anchored in. It was docked you. I got you. But it wasn't. I got you. And then her mom. comes in and her mom is like really mad and her mom tells her that she can't like go to play practice the next day and but I was boys never get punished so I was fine and then I like slept

over and that was kind of we literally never talked about it and then she came out as gay a few years later and was like dating this girl but now she's dating a man again and I just like so I don't I don't know I don't know I have to say the mom let you continue to sleep over after she found out you this is how gay were you seeming at the time I have to say like very I mean, I was really tan. Like, imagine a really tan guy that talks like this comes over. He's like, really tan. That is, I forgot, you know what?

That was like Chekhov's tan coming in at the end because I forgot all about the tan. And then to then reimagine the ending of this story with you, but looking insane is also amazing. It's looking incredible. Yeah. Really, really, really, really tan, really, really dark. That's amazing. So, Connor, what would you say? you learned from this entire experience at such a young age too it really must have set the scene for you for you know the rest of your life i was like i am for sure gay is like one big takeaway from this i was like i'm not i was like not only my gay i'm like i'm for sure not atop because i think any top would have been able to a little bit figure it out and i really did it at all and that's it now my hour's called side notes 13 years later and so i just lost half the audience the audience has left come back no you're mad at sides

That's amazing. So what a way to find out not only that you were a 100% gay, but also that you are a bottom. Yeah, that might be the first time a woman helps a gay guy figure that out. Yeah. Bad dates. We have our second storyteller today. That's Misha Brown. Misha, same question as Connor.

What is your current status? re-love. Mm-hmm. I'm newly married. Congratulations. Thanks. I mean, it's been a while. We got married Christmas Day

this last Christmas. Oh, that's beautiful. Aloped in Vegas. So you couldn't let Jesus have just one day? His mom was so pissed. His mom was so bad. It's Jesus' birthday. We're like, yeah, but you can live stream it

from your couch. So you win some, you lose some, babe. Easy, piz. Where in your, in your... timeline, does your story take place? So this is like six years ago, right after like a year of sobriety. And so you hear

the, you know, the term, um, beer goggles. Mm-hmm. Okay, well, I was experiencing something called ship goggles because I was a singer on cruise ships. Oh, my God. I used to work cruise ships, Misha. Yeah, which ones? The Atlanta's cruises. Oh, yeah, yeah. The big gay ones.

Yeah, yeah. Kind of a nightmare, but kind of amazing to have access to a Sabarro, 24-7? See, I was on these little, like, tiny luxury ones, like, only 400 passengers, so, like, 250 crew members. And so the thing about it is, though, like, there's only a couple hundred crew members, half of them are women, the rest of them are straight. You meet, like, six gay guys in the seven months that you're on there.

So the pickings were slim, and I did see this one guy, you know, like, you meet a gay guy, and you guys make the eyes. you're like, oh, you're one of me, you know. And so him and I locked eyes and outside of a cruise. Can we all do it really quickly for Alistair? Because Alistair actually doesn't know what we're talking about. Yeah. And so all of us like are just going to do it right now.

And this is sort of, it's very quick. It's sort of that, you know. Okay. I'm blushing. Okay. Great. See? And you get it.

You get it. So you did the eyes to this man. You did the eyes. And you have to on a cruise ship because a lot of them. Most of them are from, like, countries where being gay is not okay. So, you know, we really got to suss them out. But I met this one guy. He was from Poland.

And outside of a ship, I would not have been attracted to him even in the slightest. But he was the only thing there. So I, you know, we went on a little, I asked him if he wanted to hang out after work. One night, he was a matri-D. I was obviously in the shows. And the only place that you can hang out on a cruise ship is the crew bar. So even though I'm newly sober, this was the only place we could go. he comes right from work, still in his uniform.

He orders a beer. I order a Diet Coke. We sit there. We have a couple chats. And then one of the things that I needed to learn early in my sobriety was like, it's okay for me to know when it's time to go. Because I used to like close everything down. And then it was time to go. Everyone was getting drunk.

It wasn't fun for me. I was there for maybe 45 minutes. But I said, do you want to come back with me to my cabin? We can watch a movie. You know what I mean? And he was like, no. And I said, okay, like, no, you don't want to, like, coat my cabin or like, no, we're not feeling this. And he was just like, not this.

And I said, okay, hurt. Like, that's fine by me. We can be friends. So I sort of left. Kind of a you can't fire me. I quit moment for you, though, a little bit, right? I was just like, so I was like, whatever. That's okay.

And I left. I went back to my cabin. And it was like 45 minutes later that. there was a little knock, knock, knock, right on my cabin door. Oh, how they come crawling there. And there's a little Polish twink standing in my doorway. And he didn't say anything. He just, like, walk straight in.

That sentence sounds like a, like, Eastern European fable. The Polish twink at my doorstep. Like, bellamy. So, I mean, he comes in. We didn't really do much talking. We just do what adults do in that situation. We had sex. And then, like, there was no asking.

There was no communication about this. He just rolled over in my bed and went to sleep. Like, koala bear hugging me. No car is on. Ooh. Yeah. And so I was like- Sleeping over, that's a lot, this,

the craziest thing about hooking up with strangers is finding out how comfortable some people are sleeping over. Oh, yeah. Like people, it means nothing to some people. And to me, I'm like, that's insane. Get out of my bed. I don't know you. Well, also the fact that, like, the last, like, half hour, he showed up, knocked on my door.

There was almost no talking. And then it was just asleep right away, too. Like, he was out. I'm a really light sleeper. So just having someone on me, I was uncomfortable. Exactly, yeah. So a couple hours go by. I'm staring at the ceiling.

And then I hear a sound first, and then I feel something warm and wet. And I realize that he is peeing. No. He's peeing. And so I'm like, hey, he's. Hey, and I try to wake him up. It doesn't happen. I jump out of bed.

I'm in this tiny little cabin. You can touch the walls just standing in the middle of the room. And I don't know what to do. I see him. He's just like... And you know he wasn't hydrated at this moment, people. You know, it was not the kind of pee that you can overlook. But I'm also so confused because, like, I cannot wake him up.

So he's either the heaviest sleeper I've ever met or I did not realize just how much he drank. I don't know if he drank when he was still at work, but he had one drink while I was with him. Right. You know, so I was very confused. But I ended up having to roll him off of my bed onto the floor and just kind of, like, wrapped him up in his piss-soaked bedding. And then, like, laid my two little towels on the bed and just, like, laid on the other side, just uncomfortably staring at the ceiling. And then a couple hours later, 5.30 a.m., his phone alarm goes off, and he stands up, gets dressed. Again, no words.

steps over the sheets, walks to the door, and then stops, turns back around and comes over to me and just gives me a kiss as if we've been dating for like three years and he's off to work. Oh, my God. And he leaves without saying anything. I'm just left there, so confused. And so I spent the rest of that day, like, I had to go find my room steward and, like, I gave him, like, $200. I'm like, I need a new mattress.

Like this, I didn't do this, I promise. And we were in the Caribbean, I went to the beach. I was telling my castmates about this and how strange it was, that he didn't say anything to me. And they're like, well, you know, maybe he was just embarrassed. But then the next couple days, he was, like, so hot and cold with me when I would see him around the ship. Like, sometimes he would, like, walk up and, like, give me a hug and be like, how's your

day? Other days, he treated me like I was Satan. And so finally, I just had to say to him, like, you know, it's like, it's okay if you weren't feeling this. Like, I'm not looking for love. here, so we can be friends. And he's like, okay, yeah, cool friends. And then a couple months later, we have not spoken to each other. It was February 14th, Valentine's Day, and the same thing happened where he just comes to my door. Knock, knock, knock, in the middle of

the night. And what did you do? I said, you can come in, but you can't spend the night. Wait, I'm sorry, Nisha, but that's crazy. The man peed on you. The man fully peed on you. The man fully peed on you and you this is got everyone listening this is what working on a cruise ship does to your brain okay this is how it rots your brain from the inside out um what did you learn misha from this experience with the polish pier um i learned that polish sausage is not worth it and no um no i learned that um to trust my gut you know i i wasn't attracted to him he wasn't my type to begin with we you know i didn't want to go and hang out with him in a ball in the first place, just so early on in me not drinking. And moving forward, I really stuck to

those standards and boundaries that I had set for myself. And that's how I eventually met my husband because he did check all of the boxes. And yes, he had a couple pounds on him, too. It sounds like. Bad dates. Ogden, we're ending out the show with you. Now, tell me, what is your relationship to drugs and alcohol? I mean, I don't drink very much, but I'm not like, so I don't have a heartwarming sober, sobriety story, unfortunately. Okay, no sober journey for Alistair. That's okay. You still have time. But what is your current status? Relationship-wise, would you say? Relationship-wise, I feel like it's probably like maybe not to be. dramatic. Remember on Facebook you could have the it's

complicated? Absolutely I do. Yeah, yeah. Something like that. Mostly just because it's like the early stages of something and both of us are like traveling all the time. It's so funny because it's complicated on Facebook really did serve a need

because sometimes it was complicated but it's also you also sort of cancel out the it's complicated by posting it's complicated. Like you're saying this is not a big enough thing to be a thing, but I'm making it a big enough thing to be a thing by saying publicly that it's not a big enough thing to be a thing. Absolutely. One of the most attention-seeking

things you could possibly do in 2009. Yeah, it's like making Instagram stories you know your ex is watching. You know, right? Exactly. So, okay, we all, so we all understand where you're at, Alastair. Alistair, where in your timeline does your story take place? So mine is also a throwback back. It's from when I was in second year university, University of Victoria, British Columbia. I love the way he says he is a sophomore in college. I love it. It's, I can't bring myself to say that. I can't. It's just not the Canadian way. Yeah. Now, stay true to your roots, buddy. It's cool. Yeah. I was studying creative writing. And I was, to set the scene of where I was, it was kind of like the worst living situation I had maybe ever had. Actually, second year.

and fourth year. Fourth year, I was living in a converted garage into a bachelor suite. But that was when I was actually in that long-term relationship, believe it or not. I was living in that terrible place. This place, second year, I was living with three other guys. We'd all met in in dorms. And there was one, my old roommate Morgan, who was like this depressed engineering student. There was this guy named Jacob, who was from Korea, who'd learned how to, you'd learned how to speak English from watching gangster movies. Oh. So he spoke kind of like,

like Al Pacino in Scarface. Yeah. This is a new girl character, not a real person. Yeah, he has, he is definitely one of the most interesting people I've ever met. Also, like really crazy.

But yeah, he would call everybody, man. He go, come on, man. And then, and then he dropped out of school because he just was like

not doing any work at all. And then didn't hear from him until a couple of years later, he messaged me on Facebook. And he was like, hey, man, how are you doing? And I was like, good. And then he sent me a bunch of photos that he'd taken from our time living together. And then he was like, you'll never guess what I'm doing now. And I was like, what? And he goes, well, in Korea, you have two options when you are like in your early 20s. You can either do military service or you can join the UN. And he was like, guess which one I did? And then he sent a phone. of him with a huge gun

in South Sudan. Someone who learned English from watching Scarface is now in possession of a large firearm. Yeah, he's the one who's trying to temper the Civil War in Sudan, I guess. Oh, my God. Great. I feel so

secure and safe for our global security. Anyway, just to paint the picture of the place that we were living, it was the me, two of them, and then this third guy, Jericho, who was this guy, who was from Hong Kong, but he was essentially a white guy from Calgary who had lived in Hong Kong or something like that. He didn't, he, anyway. Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't know what the deal was. It sounds like he came straight from the WWF, quite frankly. Yeah.

Like Jericho. But. But yeah. So, and the place that we lived was just classic, like, a bunch of 19-year-olds who did not know how to take care of themselves, just like an absolute mess. Any woman who had any interest in us was doing the Lord's work, truly. And Jericho matched with this girl on Tinder. And I think he'd been on a couple dates with her at this point. And then he invited me to go on a double date with, so him, this girl, and then a friend of hers. And he didn't really give me any background at all, which you see later. Did you go in completely blind?

I went in completely blind. I didn't know who I was going on a date with. I didn't really know anything about her other than he'd been on a couple dates with her. And it sounds like you're really obsessed with Facebook, too, at this point. So it's crazy that you didn't look her up on Facebook. You've brought it up so many times. Big Facebook guy. Big Facebook guy.

I've been, I'm watching. Now I'm still on Facebook 2025. All AI slot. My brain is a mess. But no, so we go to this place called Peacock Billiards in Victoria to like play pool the four of us and it's you know kind of awkward uh and what makes it more awkward is as we're like playing pool jericho's date this girl that he'd been seeing a couple times she um is sort of making these like little it to me it sounds like little shrieks of excitement while we're

playing pool it's okay well you have to do it now yeah so it kind of sounds It's kind of like, yeah. I hope that wasn't too loud in the earphone. No, no. It was adorable, actually. I don't know what your problem was with it. Well, because the timing of it, it felt like she was doing it to kind of throw me off

when I was about to take my shot of pool. Especially back then, I was very competitive. And so we started getting, I was like, wow, she's like really trying to fuck with me. And I think it actually did affect, one of my shots or something like that. And the rest of them are acting like nothing is happening. They're completely

ignoring it. And I'm like, I'm like, no, this is like weird that she's doing this. And I was like, hey, could you, could you not? And then she is like, I have Tourette.

And I felt, oh no. I didn't know. I didn't know that that was a type of, I, you know, know, I just had the, I guess I was like ignorant or naive. I didn't, I just thought of terrestrial. And this is why representation in the media matters. Exactly.

Exactly. Tell those stories. Yeah. Yeah. And so I felt horrible. Really ruined the vibe to. It was, it really was not like a, oh, that's so funny. This happens all the time.

Laugh it off situation. It was just like crazy. But this is, I'm putting this. I'm sorry, squarely on your friend because I do feel, no, no, no. I'm saying, like, they should have, that is something that I do think you should, like, give context about if you're going to be, if you're meeting someone for the first time and you don't know, like what, I don't know. It just seems crazy that like, maybe out of, I don't know, it just, if you're going on a double date, something that intimate and there's something,

there's something, there's. Totally. Put yourself in that position. I don't, I do feel bad for you in this story a little bit. Actually, we're cutting, but we're cutting that all out. It will never air, but I want you to know, just person to person that I do. Thank you so much. So, so you're enemy number one in the double date. Yeah, yeah. And then basically it just kind of sort of deteriorated from there. To his credit, like, I mean, I don't think I had really any chemistry with the girl that

I was supposed to be dating. I thought I was, at very least, I was like going into it. I was like, oh, I'll be like a wingman. to my friend, and then that backfired also. Yeah. So it was kind of just like, yeah, I, uh, sort of, I feel like I, the way that I remember it is I just kind of like retreated into the mist and I was like, I'll get out of here. Um, and, uh, that, and then he, he kept dating her for like a little while. Um, so I didn't

ruin everything for him, I guess. Um, no, but did you ever hang out with, with them again? Not, um, except when she would just come over to the house, basically. And did you ever dig yourself out of the whole socially with her that you put yourself in? No, I don't know what happened to her after they, I guess they dated for a few months and then broke up. And that was kind of the end of that. But to be honest, it was funny, thinking about when I got asked to do this podcast, I was like, I don't really have that many bad date stories. I think because I like straight or buy whatever. women that I date, great.

Not really many complaints, unfortunately. Who are you trying to impress right now, Alasster? Okay. Bad dates. We are now trauma bonded together for life, new friends, all of us, but now very old friends. Connor Janda, where can the people find you? And what are you doing these days that you'd like people to know about? Okay, you can find me on Instagram at Conor Janda and Substack.

When I figure that out, please do follow that because I'm really scared of that. And I just, like, need people to be on there. And it'll be for sure free. I'll actually pay you to join. So that's it. And then also my web series, Boys Club, is coming back in October. And I would love for people to watch it, like it, and share it. Love, love, love.

Okay, Misha Brown. What are you doing these days and where can people find you? Yeah, you can find me on all platforms at your bestie Misha. You can listen to my podcast while it still exists at the big flop. And every podcast should preface with you. that by the same one's got to pay for Travis Kelsey's $100 million and you can check out my debut book which comes out in February called Be Your Own Bestie. Love that, love that. Thank you, Misha. And finally, Alistair Ogden, where can the people find you? What are you doing

these days? You can find me on Instagram and TikTok and I mean, I guess YouTube just at Alistair Ogden the way that it's, I think I'm the only Alistair Ogden, or least the only way that it's spelled like this. So you can just Google me, I guess. And you'll find something. I would love if people came to see me on tour. I'm doing a bunch of stand-up dates in the fall all over North America. And I'm sure you can find those dates on your Instagram. Yes, yeah. On my Instagram, the link tree, link in bio. Perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect episode of bad dates. Tune in next week while it lasts, while it still exists. Thank you guys so much for going. coming on and sharing your bad date stories.

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