Bad Dates with Jameela Jamil - Mr Meatloaf (w/ Amy Silverberg, Rachel Coster, and Jordan Weiss)

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

On a new episode of Bad Dates, host Joel Kim Booster welcomes comedians Amy Silverberg, Rachel Coster, and writer/director Jordan Weiss to discuss their most iconic dating fiascos. Amy’s space cadet sends her an unbelievably sinister memento, Rachel has a chaotic evening she calls “kind of awesome, but not totally ideal,” and Jordan loses some time but finds herself sky high. If you’ve had a bad date you’d like to tell us about, our number is 984-265-3283, and our email is [e-mail], we can’t wait to hear all about it! Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video clips. Merch available at SiriusXMStore.com/BadDates. Joel Kim Booster: Psychosexual, Fire Island, Loot Season 2Amy Silverberg: @amysilverberg on social media, @amysilverbergrules on TikTok, AmySilverberg.com, new novel First Time, Long TimeRachel Coster: @rachelcoster on Insta, @RACH4_theSTARZ on TikTok and Twitter, check out Boy Room on TikTokJordan Weiss: @jweissy on Insta, new movie Sweethearts on Max (with a role for our Joel Kim Booster!) Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes.

Smart. Bless. Me. Here's a question for the panel and don't bully me, but I grew up and I still to this day, I eat the entire shrimp tail included. Is that something you've ever experienced or seen? Or do you think that's too weird? What? You crunch it down and swallow it. I crunch it down. It's cutting my throat all the way down. Um, like, I think my entire family basically does that. I was about to say maybe, is it like a white people thing that they don't eat the tails?

Well, and famously, my parents, my family, yeah, I'm adopted. My parents are white as well. So I don't know if it's like a second generation German thing or what it is, but I just immediately assumed we were doing it wrong. Yeah. Hello. Hello. Hello. And welcome to another episode of Bad Dates, the podcast. Okay, guys, this is not a bad date you are personally on. You are listening to a podcast right now where a panel of very funny people talk about their

time in the trenches dating, hooking up situationships. We cover it all here at Bad Dates. I am your host. And I want to jump right into a little bit of listener mail, as I always do at the top of the episode. This one is a doozy, you guys. It's from Evangeline. Bad Dates.

And she says, I'm a senior in high school, and I just went to homecoming with a guy on a first date. He drove to my house to pick me up. He met my parents. We took pictures, did the corsage, et cetera. When we drove away, he didn't exactly peel out, but kinda hit the gas, and we heard a sound like we ran over something.

We stopped, he got out and said, oh no, I think we hit a cat. I prayed it wasn't ours, but sure enough, they're lying in the middle of the street was. It wasn't fatal, but the cat had to lose a leg. Don't hate me, but we still went to homecoming that night and I kind of liked him, but my parents would shit a brick if they knew I was into the guy that made

hobble around, what should I do? Okay, here's the thing, babe. I'm gonna tell you to you straight. You are a senior in high school. You will not remember this person in, I'm going to say, less than five years time. This is not the love of your life. So I'm of two minds of this. You can either take that information, that context from someone who is pushing 40 and

knows that I barely remember the name of the people I went to high school with. And just fuck him or hook up or do or date him or, you know, do over the pants stuff, whatever high school. It feels illegal to say fuck him to a senior in high school. But like do whatever you need to do with him. Feel the teenage love that you are is blossoming currently. And then go off to college or a trade program or whatever your plan is and just forget about him, like most high school people do. Or you can take that context and be like, I'm not gonna even remember this man's name

in three to four years, but you'll always remember your one-legged cat. So, you know, it's for you to weigh. It's for you to weigh. But luckily for you, I have an incredible panel of women in STEM here to instruct you and give their own advice. Because I'm, you know, I am not, I was never a high school girl.

I did have a cat, but you know, I wanna get right into it and get them, get their opinions, get their way in. Again, if you have some advice or a crazy story or something you want us to weigh in on, please email us at baddatespod.gmail.com. My first guest today is an old friend. I love her so much, so funny.

She is a comedian who's appeared on Comedy Central, Hulu and Amazon, a former teacher, if you can believe it, shaping the minds of the youth of America. Please give it up for Amy Silverberg. Oh, thank you. Welcome, Amy. I'm feeling for this woman. And you have a lot of experience with this age group, I feel. Yeah, I teach college, you know? Sometimes I still, every time I need money, I email USC. I'm like, do you have any kind of adjunct class? Any, any, any subject, you'll do it. Okay. Truly any subject.

Yeah, I'm not a cat fan. So, you know, we know where Amy is on this one. Our next guest, she is not just a comedian. She's a multi fucking hyphenate. She's a singer and a comedian. She hosts the TikTok show, Boy Room and the podcast Epic Life. Please give it up for Rachel Costner. Hello, Rachel.

Hey, how's it going? Thank you for having me. Rachel, I'm going to say because you have a TikTok show, you are much closer in age to this young lady than I am. And so by that, I think I'm excited to see what you have to say. But before we jump into the advice, I want to get our last guest in here because I love her dearly. I'm so excited to see her little face on this little box because it's been too, too long.

She's the writer, producer and director who created Dollface. She wrote next year's Freakier Friday, and she has a new movie coming out on HBO Max called Sweethearts, which may or may not be also, including my little face playing a gay firefighter. She typecasts me. I'm not offended by it, though. Please give it up for Jordan Weiss, everybody. Whoo!

The biggest shame about this movie coming out after Halloween is that we have to wait a whole year to see how many guys are inspired to dress as Joel, the hot gay firefighter. Oh, my God. The way I still have the t-shirt and the way my partner makes me wear it sometimes. It was a good look, let me tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I owe you a debt, Jordan,

for casting me in that role, I really do. Yeah, I was gonna say you're the exact kind of guy I would have fallen in love with and been like, maybe one day he'll, I'm sure one day he'll change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can have one straight girl. Gay is a phase. It's a phase, it's a phase.

What do we think about Evangeline's predicament here? Should she continue seeing this guy? Should she cut ties with him because she's got, I mean, what a Taylor Swift song situation she's in right now. Forbidden love. I immediately disagree with you when you were like, oh, she'll never remember.

I'm like, she's gonna to think about this guy every day for the next 25 years and like absolutely talk about him in therapy. Like, I'm going to think about him forever. Well, I also, I forget, like, yes, of course, if she becomes a stand-up comic, then like this is, I mean, if she becomes an essayist. This is her origin story.

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or if she loses her virginity to him. Whoever you want to virginity to. Wait, he slayed the pussy twice in that case. Oh my God. No, Jordan, you're absolutely right. I was wrong on that one. That is like, she's going to be at the Moth story hour eminently telling this story.

And so I guess the question is, how do you want this story to end? How do you, I say, because you're so young of Angeline, go with what you think will be the best ending to the story. Like do it for the story, babe. Do it for the bit. I also think that sometimes when you're younger, like if bad stuff happens, you kind of have to just roll with it

and not really like let it affect you too much, not to be like completely callous in a bitch but like Something bad happened that's totally not your fault and it's like a trauma that was thrust upon you Whatever you can do to make sure that it's like not something that sticks with you or that you hold guilt for is kind of crucial So I think she should forget it happened and continue to date this awesome guy who seems like maybe he's not the best driver but yeah, other awesome qualities like taking having follow through and taking her to the homecoming. He sounds like kind of committed. He's not the best driver. Disassociate. Disassociate is what you're saying.

I think it all depends on how he reacted. Like if he was like, you know, let's keep it moving. But if he felt bad, I'd love to see him feel bad. Well, and here's the other thing. The cat is alive. The cat has three legs now. The cat could be a TikTok or Instagram star. Star, and you know how much the internet loves damaged animals?

I'm sorry, but they do. You could make bank. The thing that I'm worried about is if they do stay together and eventually high school does high school and it runs its course and he breaks up with her, then you got broken up with by the guy that mutilated your cat.

Like that is a tough to not be the one that ended it. But the thing is, Jordan, is I think she has so much leverage now, he can never break up with her. Yeah, that's true. He can actually, he is trapped in this relationship. He will marry this woman if she wants. Just so she doesn't tell anyone. And at any moment, she has a good excuse

to break up with him. It could be, at any moment, she could be like, I'm thinking about the cat. Yeah, I just can't, every time I see my cat limp around the house, I think of you. And I can't do that anymore. So yeah, you have a lot of options, Evangeline. Your whole life is ahead of you.

You could, you know, like. And boy, are we jealous. Truly, truly. Actually, you cannot pay me to go back to see you here. What is gonna be the confidence of this young straight man that's like, I fucked up this girl's cat and she's still at sex with some boy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bad dates. and she still had sex with him. She still, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bad dates. Bad dates. Amy Silverberg, give us a little bit of context of where you're at right now. Are you a relationship person? Give us the context of where you were at during this story.

Were you a serial monogamist, a dater, a slut? What's the deal? I am a serial monogamist, even dater, a slut? What's the deal? I am a serial monogamist, even though I don't think of myself that way, because I won't, I've never lived with anyone. Like I've never lived with a boyfriend, and I've had so many serious boyfriends. I go kind of from one serious boyfriend to another,

and I won't, I have trouble going to the next level. So I'm talking to Dr. Barbara about it, my therapist. You know what, though? I'm trouble going to the next level. So I'm talking to Dr. Barbara about it, my therapist, you know, what? Pack it. I get the fact that a lot of people want to live together and I love living with my partner. I really do. But like when I hear about like Hugh Jackman, this is not a great example anymore because they're divorced now.

But Hugh Jackman and his wife famously lived on like separate floors of a giant house. And like, people were like, that's bad. But I'm like, I hear stories of that. And I'm like, that sounds fine. That sounds fucking amazing. Who I've been with for like five years won't move in with keeps moving closer to me. So I'm like, eventually he'll, he can just just be neighbors. Yeah, fine. You know, like sleep over sometimes, but like, you know, sometimes space is important. I don't think you should judge yourself too harshly about that.

Thank you. Part of it is like, I'm averse to change too. Like I gave my first hand job at a bar mitzvah, which sounds so young. I was 13 and then I stuck with hand jobs until I turned like 18. Like I got used to one thing and I was like, this is the thing that I do.

So it's like, you know, even that, and that by the way, that guy became a rabbi. Wow. You changed his life. You really did. They just made a Netflix show about this. Yeah, they did. Yeah, except, you know,

I was there at the Bat Mitzvah as a Jew too. Yes. So where are we at in your story? When the story took place, I was in my 30s, or late 20s, early 30s. I was in between one of my long term relationships. And every relationship, I get into the every date. I'm like, I'm not looking for anything serious, which maybe

is just the thing that I say. And then maybe that's my move that I didn't realize is my move. But someone had set me up. Yeah, my little trap. Someone had set me up with someone. Like I had not gone on many online dates then. And I thought like, oh, I'm being set up

with someone that a friend knows. So they're gonna be kind of normal. Vetted. Vetted. He worked at SpaceX. I was like, that be kind of normal. Vetted, yeah. Vetted, he worked at SpaceX. I was like, that's kinda funky, I don't know. That is cool, I will say this is sort of a drum I've beat on the podcast before, but I do find space travel to be one of the biggest

wastes of time and energy that our country has ever dedicated to. I'm sorry, what's up there? What's up there, Okay, the fucking moon. And why do we need to know? I'm sorry, but what has being on the moon ever done for us as a country? Right, right, right.

There are parts of the ocean we've never even seen, and you wanna go to the fucking moon? Like just go to a new restaurant in your town. That's exciting. Yeah. I'm sorry, fuck space travel. Anyways, continue. He worked at SpaceX. I'm with you on that, but I was like,

how would I ever meet a guy at SpaceX? I'll go on a date that someone's setting me up so I know, the main thing is I was like, he's not gonna be sketchy. Because my friend can, she didn't own that well, but he was a friend of her boyfriend, was gonna be a normal guy. And I let him pick me up,

which I don't think you would do on an online date. But I was like, this is a guy who's vetted, so he could know my address. Yeah. So he picks me up, he takes me to Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. No. The Universal Walk. Wow.

As a joker for real. Kind of as like funny, like I said, I like restaurants, you know, I like. Like I said, I like restaurants. I like shrimp. I have the picture still that I made him take of me with the big shrimp, like with the shrimp mascot. That's kind of fun. Honestly, I'm addicted to City Walk.

So. Exactly. For, yes, and I still have the photo. During the date, I remember just thinking that he was boring. He didn't do anything like particularly weird. He was really into running and kept talking about running. Oh! And he's telling me about how he gets blisters on his feet.

I was like, who cares that you get blisters? All this to say, it was like an uneventful date, kind of boring. I did have the all-you-can-eat shrimp platter. I ate as many shrimp as possible. You were doing the substance if you've seen that film and know the reference. Yeah. Maybe this was in my late 20s. Now I'm feeling embarrassed. I don't think I was great at ending things in a respectful way, but it had been one date. I'm so afraid of men screaming at me that I think I kind of just maybe ghosted a little whatever, it's a one day. It's a famous, it's a famous rule. It's a famous rule on this podcast.

Anything below three dates, I think it's fine to ghost. I think you don't know this person. Anything he said, like, I'd love to see you again. I was like, had a great time. And then like maybe I didn't respond. I don't I don't. Yeah, I don't. You know, you don't know I'm anything. I that's what I believe.

Maybe I'm wrong. It's contextual. Before cell phones, like if you were, it wasn't probably even called ghosting in the 90s. Like we're gonna call someone and leave them in a voicemail on their answering machine that was like FYI, I don't wanna hang out with you anymore. It was just because the communication is available, then people think it's necessary, but it's not.

No, just because you have the access doesn't mean you need to use it. I might've used like a bad excuse. Like I'm diabetic. Sometimes I say my blood sugars are out of control. Nobody can argue with that. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's like the adult equivalent of telling your PE teacher you're on your period.

You're like, sorry, I can't date you. My blood sugar is weird. I have Nick Jonas disease and I my blood sugars are crazy So I maybe I either didn't end it at all or I gave some lame excuse Okay, I don't think about this guy another moment. He was a runner at SpaceX two weeks later. I get an envelope Like a manila manila envelope addressed to me that hate that I open it inside the envelope our shrimp tails oh oh my god a Smattering of shrimp tails with no shrimp and then people just put their

I'm emptying it out cuz at first I can't, I don't understand what's in there. I'm like, what's, I'm thinking it's like confetti. I'm thinking it's, it's shrimp tails. I don't know how the shrimps have come out of the tails. It's I have full body chills. There is a single note in it that said, hope you enjoyed the shrimp. He will kill. That's in his lifetime.

He has killed. He has killed. And he will do it again. No, of course, no return address. No, you know, nothing else. Didn't say anybody's name. So I tell my friend who set me up, I'm like, I think this guy sent me shrimp tails. She's like, what? I have to repeat it 50 times because she's like, what?

I'll go shrimp tails. They're like, what? So he sent me shrimp tails. He sent me the tails of shrimp. She was like, I don times because she's like, what? I would go, shrimp tails. She's like, what? It's like, he sent me shrimp tails. He sent me the tails of shrimp. She was like, I don't think he's like psycho. She's like, I'm going to ask him. She goes, I asked him. He has no idea what your time is.

Don't ask him. He's going to murder me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have never solved it. He's never admitted it. I've never, you know. Have you had any interaction with this person since then? No, since the shrimp tails, no.

Wow. Yeah, talk about running. Run far away from him. You should move house. I do not. I live in the same apartment, I know. You have a ring camera? I'm so sorry, but like, Amy,

the fact that you have issues with men moving into your home, yeah, no shit. No fucking shit. They don't wanna get sent shrimp. This is like, it feels obvious to talk about male privilege and the plight of straight women and women everywhere, but like are straight men okay?

Are they okay? Because it does not sound like as a community, they are processing rejections or- It does make me laugh to picture him eating, like did he eat a bunch of shrimp to collect the time? as a community, they are processing rejections. Or- It does make me laugh to picture him eating, like did he eat a bunch of shrimp to collect the tails? Is there any way he took the tails from your date

or like you would have seen if he did that? I feel that I would have seen it, but I mean, I wouldn't put it past, you know, he just drives me home. I mean, which option is worse? No, cause then he would have had to be anticipating that you would never talk to him again. And that would be a different kind of insane-

Also, my first move was like, when you keep like a concert ticket stub and you're like, maybe one day we'll frame this if we get married. My boyfriend has done. That would be so funny if you're a person who like keeps a memento from every single day just in case it worked out like that's really scary. OK, so, Amy, at the end of the story, what is like your big like red flag takeaway? What's the rule you put in place moving forward so you could avoid situations like this?

No SpaceX. No SpaceX. Bad dates. Bad dates. Bad dates. Rachel Koster, you're up next, babe. Give us your context. Are you in a relationship now? Are you a relationship person? What's your deal? So I love to be single, but right now I'm seeing someone, but it's not like a serious thing, but he's awesome. And that's, I guess, all I can say about it because it's not serious

because I don't want to like it. it. But generally dating is really easy for me because I have an unyielding attitude about it and will never stop asking people out in a way that maybe is stressful to others. But if I want to date someone, I'll just ask. I feel like it's pretty easy to do and I get rejected a lot of the time, but it's not really scary.

You miss like 100% of the shots you don't take or whatever that fucking Wayne Gretzky shot is. And when you get- That's wild. I'm impressed by that. I wish I would have been more like that. Thank you guys so much. Maybe one day I'll like get in trouble for it

but because I have sent like a lot of crazy DMs to like some famous people even. But I will never stop unless they ask, unless they say no, then that's no problem. And then I... There's a man on the podcast right now talking about Rachel and the... The craziest girl in the world.

No, I'm like respectful. Some of the most incredible things have happened from shooting your shot in the DMs, Rachel. I think we can all agree on that. I literally got Muna to cover a Britney Spears song for my movie because I shot my shot in the DMs, Rachel. Like, I think we can all agree on that. I literally got Muna to cover a Britney Spears song for my movie because I shot my shot in the DMs. And yes, it's not sexual in nature, but I'm just saying, it can happen for you and it's happened for me.

It's also like, what's the worst that can happen? They just don't respond. Yeah. That was sexual for me, that Muna cover. I can't wait to hear it. And sorry that I haven't so far. Unless I did. It's fine. Was it in Pines? It was in Fire Island, yeah. that cover. I can't wait to hear it. And sorry that I haven't so far unless I did.

Well, I didn't find it in the Fire Island. Yeah. OK, then I heard it. And sorry that I didn't that I didn't like realize. Well, we're definitely not going to use this in the pod. So don't worry. They will never. Sorry that you didn't get aroused. OK. So so you are you're you're a dater. You wouldn't say you're a relationship person, though. You're you're mostly a dater. You wouldn't say you're a relationship person though.

You're mostly a dater. Yeah, but every now and then one sticks and I just fall really head over heels and they're like the right guy. Poor girl. But you miss, you get the itch. You get the itch, you're like, oh, why do I DM these celebrities?

Yeah, like what do I have to say to Chris Hemsworth in the DMs if I'm in a relationship? Can I ask a question? What do you DM? Sometimes the most deranged stuff I've ever seen in my life. One time I told a guy who's a and when I have to go back, no celebrities really. But one time I did DM this guy who was on stage at Brooklyn Mirage and is like a big musician slash like he's kind of close

or kind of close to the comedy scene. And so I knew I kind of had a shot and I knew that I'm like very gorgeous. And so I DM something so crazy. Yeah. And I was on ketamine and it was right after the pandemic we were or like the first days were allowed out. And so I was just being kind of nuts. And so I texted him and I was like, you're sexy. I'm sexy. I just clipped my toenails. I feel like we could really make some magic. And I said, come over my house after the show, no problem. He responded and said that he was married,

but that he was really tempted. So you never know. Hate that. Don't lie. He was playing along because I was being so crazy and he was having fun with it. I don't think he had any intentions or would ever step out on his awesome life. And I would never ask that of him.

Okay. It is you are, I am assuming you're Gen Z, Rachel. I don't know. I'm like 28. I should be a lot more mature. I think you're an elder Gen Z. I know how to use my computer better than I do. Yeah, elder Gen Z.

Elder Gen Z. Guys, thank you for saying that. Elder Gen Z. But I will say, like, I am getting to the point, like you're talking about this this musician, and obviously, like, we're not going to say the name. But I am now reaching as a person pushing 40. Like, I will talk to someone who's in their 20s, and they'll be like, oh, my God, like, I just saw, like, Mr. Meatloaf.

And like, he's like he's like the biggest rapper in the world right now and I'm like I fully reached that point where I will look up Mr. Meatloaf on Instagram and he has 40 million followers and I'm like I have never once in my life heard of Mr. Meatloaf. I feel the same way and my college students will be like I bet your favorite band is Fleetwood Mac like it's an insult. I'm like, that is my favorite band. Why is that not okay? You get witchy vibes. I just probably all the shawls you're wearing to class

and things like that. I'm just like, yeah, I like Fleetwood Mac. The big brain tats. I love Fleetwood Mac. I named my dog Stevie Nicks. Yeah, look. It's a great band. Fleetwood Mac is timeless.

I like Ja Rule, Fleetwood Mac, and Jewel. Okay, so Rachel, we now know you should be put away. I've got problems. You should be institutionalized. But where does your story take place? Okay, guys, so flashback to college, Boston in 20, I guess it would be 16. So I'm actually not that young. And I was dating this guy who was by all accounts pretty evil. He was alone and his dad had like a lot of money.

And I was pretty thrilled by that because until then I had only dated broke guys or coworkers. And so it was nice to have someone who I didn't have to see every day, but he was rich and He was incredible. However, he was not really like a good person and not very good to me and One night I came over his house after a long shift and it's no problem Like I'm actually not upset about it because sometimes you have to date bad guys so that when good guys come along We just know the difference and we know that's a big ethos of this show, yeah. Well said. I mean, that's the whole point.

Thanks. I got to his house and he says, "'Open your mouth, I did it.'" He puts a piece of acid on my tongue and goes, "'Are you ready to have some fun?' And I was like, I guess I didn't mean to, and I do have to go into work at 6 a.m. tomorrow, but whatever.

And that's a 14 hour commitment that he just thrust on you, by the way, for those of you who aren't aware, as it is not something that goes away after a few hours. It is not. It's a half a day at least. It's a half a day. At least we did this at 10 p.m. I have worked. Oh, no. So that's the wrong time of day.

I couldn't agree more, guys. Seriously, it was like kind of something that I couldn't say no to because it had already been in my mouth But ultimately I like Jobs, so it didn't really matter So we hang out and we are watching he made me watch all Three of the sharknadoes that had come out at that time You shouldn't really watch any of them but to watch all three is like a crime against

at that time, you shouldn't really watch any of them, but to watch all three is like a crime against some spirit. On acid. Yes, and then also his friend came over and he had kind of like a thing where we would fuck his friend sometimes, or like they would both fuck me, I'm sorry to say. And so I've learned a lot from my life, I guess in this short period of time.

That grew. I mean, it's so crazy. It's so crazy because you're describing this and I'm like, yes, he's evil, he's evil, he's evil. And then you describe that and I'm like, this sounds like my dream scenario. Dream scenario, having a man, opening the door, shoving drugs in my mouth and then getting DP'd. Like that sounds fucking fantastic.

And it was kind of awesome, but also not like totally ideal, I guess I would say. Given the circumstances. It was kind of awesome, but not totally ideal is a great description. I guess every little my experience. And then so his friend came over and we did start having sex with him. And then we were. Was he over and we did start having sex with him. And then, um, we... Wait, was he on acid too though? We were all on acid.

His friend was also on acid watching Sharknado with us. And then they both started kissing my ears. How much were the guys participating with each other? With each other? I was supposed to ask that. That's always the question. There were maybe six of his friends that we had sex with over the course of our time together. That's like a team. That's like a basketball team.

We never did. Well, whatever. And so sorry that I'm telling all this stuff. I sound like, anyway, it's judgment free zone. Judgment free zone, yeah. I'm just curious if they were like fine guys. Did you not hear what Andy just told us? But then I had to quit my job at 5 a.m.

because I knew I wasn't gonna make it in at six. So I Facebook messaged my boss and told him that I was going through really hard challenges in my life and I was no longer going to be able to work at and starting today. And because they were so short staffed and it is such a horrible working experience, I was able to get that job back

the next week. This feels like it should be a story for the good date cool job podcast. Yeah, exactly. Well, I guess I've told other people and they've been horrified, but I guess today I'm telling it and we're having fun with it. I will I will say the worst thing about the date is the lack of consent with the drug use.

Yeah, like that is if I needed to, by all means. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Great. Yeah. Yeah. It is one. But it is one of those situations where it's like you probably should ask before you shove something in anyone's mouth, anything, anything you want to put in someone's mouth. You should probably close your eyes open your mouth scenario Is it kind of hot? No? Rachel what is the lesson you think you learned at such a young age?

From this from this experience. I think I learned that true love will never make you watch Sharknado. I know our final panelist, she's been through the trenches herself and she's come out the other side stronger, smarter, braver woman, you know, genius, creative. So Jordan Weiss, I'm actually really interested. Give us context now. Are you in a relationship now? I believe. I am. I'm married. Yes, that's what I thought. And what is was that?

Were you a serial monogamous? Were you sleeping around? What were you doing? So when this story took place? Definitely. The story my story takes place in college, because I was definitely more of a boyfriend-girl in my 20s. Probably because of the horror stories of college. I think I was single at USC as a sorority girl in the Greek life system and was scarred for life and was like, you know what,

boyfriend's forever and then a husband and then never doing that again. So what? Boyfriends forever and then a husband and then never doing that again. So the sort of concept of this is blind dates. The concept I'm pitching. I want you to buy my story and I'm pitching you a movie idea. So blind dates in the Greek life system of being in a sorority at USC. There were a lot of date parties where you would get set up with someone that you didn't know. And so, like, to give context of a different one of these, there was a fraternity called Sigma Chi that would have a party called Wig Machi where you would anonymously get sent a wig and then dress up in a costume to coordinate with your wig and then show up to the party

and find the guy in the coordinating costume and that's how you knew who your date was. And this sounds very bi as well. This sounds very bi. And everything is a little bit. Yeah, excuse for men to do drag. Glamorous. So this was the years, this is early 2010s.

And so I get sent, I'm excited about this because I have a big crush on a guy in this fraternity. And I get sent a wig and it is a cave woman wig. And I'm like, perfect. I'm gonna go all out. I'm gonna wear my slutty little animal print bikini and like bone necklace from Party City. Wil Ma, down the house boots.

I go and I show up and I see this guy I have a crush on and he is dressed as Elvis. And I'm like, crazy, what is the connection between a caveman and Elvis? There must be like a song. I'm like still like, obviously this is word together. And then like a beautiful hot girl in a Priscilla Pressley wig, like, and then the like sort of class clown of the fraternity, like camera pans to like Bluto

in the Animal House service. Okay, I thought they were both wearing the same wigs. No, no, so I was like paired with the guy also wearing a caveman wig. I also should have, this was just context. This isn't even the story I'm supposed to be telling. Oh, okay. So I squeezed two stories and I cheated.

I love it, I love it. You squeezed two in, just like Rachel and those guys. We are the same, it's the same. So, I had not had good experiences with these blind date parties in college. And then there was one coming up that was called a date dash. And a date dash is like, similarly,

like you're given like almost no information about what you're doing, but you're like, show up at this frat at seven in the morning and there's gonna be like a surprise activity. So I was like, no, no, I've learned my lesson. I like need to know who I'm going with. And these older girls in my sorority were like, we're setting you up with this guy,

and he's like a great guy. He's like so nice, he's so handsome, like don't fuck this up, this is like actually you're gonna be happy with who you're set up with. So now I'm nervous, now I'm like, I've got a live one and I have to have this date go well. But I have no context about what I'm doing. The other piece of backstory I will give you

is that at this point, I in my life, I had never blacked out from alcohol. I have no context about what I'm doing. So I'm very nervous. I show up to this frat at seven in the morning. There was immediately like so many handles of plastic vodka everywhere, plastic handles of cheap vodka, grocery store brand, grocery store brand, and like big jugs of orange juice. And everyone is like immediately drinking. So I meet my date. He's very cute, he's very nice, I start drinking. And then they're like, all right, time to get on the bus. And I'm like, I guess we're going on a bus.

And then I get on the bus and I'm still drinking because I'm like, we're pre-gaming for wherever we're going. Classic story. Very brave to go to a second location also, with a fraternity. And then the bus pulls up to a dock. And then they're like, now time to get on the ferry because we are going to Catalina Island. So I've now been pre-gaming for an activity

that I thought was gonna start hours ago, so I'm like well into drinking. Then we get on the boat and I'm still drinking because again, I'm like, I'm nervous. I want this to go well. I've just met this person. I didn't realize the pre-gaming part of the day was gonna be like six hours long. And so I'm drinking, I'm drinking.

I'm on the boat. It's going okay. But I'm starting to be like, am I getting nauseous? And then... Something that's never happened happens. Where I just, it just goes dark. Just goes a little bit dark. Oh no. And then I come, just goes a little bit dark. Oh no.

And then I come to, and I look around and I see water. So I'm like, okay, we're still on the boat. But then I realize we're not, I'm in the air. I'm in the sky. I have blacked in on a parasail, strapped to my date, parasailing. And I turned to him and I said, why are we parasailing?

He was like, because an hour ago when we got to Catalina, you ran off the boat and saw some guy taking people parasailing and we're like, we have to go parasailing. Do you not remember suggesting that we come up here and then signing a waiver and then getting on a second boat? Oh my God. So the sort of like force of the-

And so impressive you could sign a waiver. Yeah, who knows what the signature looked like though. I mean, signatures for our generation are a farce at this point. They mean nothing. They mean less than nothing. I time traveled. This was the first time in my life I've ever had, like,

unaccounted for time due to alcohol. And I was sort of like, I can't believe I didn't get sick. And then I'm like, oh, I think that that is actually coming. But I'm strapped to a man in the sky parasailing. And I will I will give myself credit. Like I do. I think I could be an old-timey sailor. Like, I was so precision, like, reading where the wind was, where I was like, I am not going to barf,

until I'm so fucking confident that that is, like, not going to hit either of us. And so I did sort of, like, subtly puke into the wind. Wait, are you in front of him or behind him? We are like strapped like next to each other, like next to each other. OK, OK. Did he see you barf? If he did, I don't feel like he acknowledged it.

I think I was kind of like, oh, my God, it's open. Well, I mean, like blue this way. But yeah, I am the bad date of this story is basically like this guy was just a huge sweetheart and I was like, like a gentleman taking you parasailing because you want to go parasailing letting me barf. Letting me barf. And then I don't I just remember we got down. There was a store selling the big like straw hats. I had one of those big hats. We were there for the whole day. I also did sort of get kidnapped. Like, I was like 19. We were there the entire day.

We finally, then you have to do the ferry back, the bus back. I felt I had lived a lifetime by the time I got back to college. Maybe every time you black out, you enter a new, like you go through a portal, you know? I thought you were gonna say you go parasailing. -♪ Bad dates. -♪

So that was the show. You guys, this, we are on a run of incredible shows. This was so fucking funny. All of you incredible guests. Let's, Amy, where can people find you if they'd like to? Not your home address, please, but online. Send me more shrimp tails. I'm at amysilverberg.com, Instagram amysilverberg, amysilverberg rules on TikTok. I have a novel coming out, so look for that. The book is called First Time Long Time. Congratulations. Love it.

That's awesome. Thank you, thank you. Congrats, congrats. Rachel, you are next. Where do you want the people to find you? Rachel Koster with a C on, Rachel Koster on Instagram, Rachetforthestars on TikTok and Twitter. Oh, and I have a TikTok show called Boy Room.

Love it, love it, love it, love it. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you for doing this. And finally, last but not least, Jordan Weiss, you got so much going on, but you gotta tell us where can the people find you if they wanna find out more information about your incredible work.

They can find me on Instagram, I'm at jweissc. I love to look at TikTok, but I don't post TikTok. I haven't learned that medium yet. And they can watch Sweethearts on Max on Thanksgiving to see Joel's Beauty hot and funny. And it's about breakups and dating and high school relationships going into college and all actually very very Relevant to Evangeline. I was gonna say Evangeline if you stay with this guy from high school into college, you might have to watch Sweethearts to see all the ways that that will go wrong and fall apart when you go home for Thanksgiving Evangeline good luck to your cat

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