Bad Dates with Jameela Jamil - Split The Wicks (w/ Mary Elizabeth Ellis, Alec Flynn, and Miranda Meadows)
Episode Date: January 5, 2026On an all-new panel episode of Bad Dates, host Joel Kim Booster welcomes comedians Mary Elizabeth Ellis, Alec Flynn, and Miranda Meadows to discuss their most iconic dating fiascos. Mary Elizabeth’s... fairy tale is interrupted by the science of ice, Alec seems to have forgotten a crucial detail, and Miranda describes that rarest phenomenon: a double ghosting. Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for full episodes. Merch available at SiriusXMStore.com/BadDates.Buy Tickets for our live show 2/01/26 at SF Sketchfest Joel Kim Booster: Psychosexual, Fire Island, Loot Season 3Mary Elizabeth Ellis: @maryelizabethellis on Insta, Season 2 of A Man On The Inside on Netflix, Season 18 of It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia filming soon, short film Last To Leave on VimeoAlec Flynn: @bigalflynn, ASMR/Grilling podcast Big Al’s Grill ASMRMiranda Meadows: @mirandameadowss on Insta, The Players at The Comedy Store, new podcast Dead On Sunset coming soon Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Bad Dates ad-free. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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bad dates hello hello and welcome to another edition of the bad dates podcast i'm your host
jol kimbooster and we here at the bad dates podcast well it's right there in the name we
cover bad dates and bad dates could mean anything from a hookup to a marriage to a relationship
to a situation ship. Really, anything counts here. What is real? What is life? What is time? Not questions
we'll be answering on this podcast. No, no, no, no, no. I gather together some of my funniest friends
and we sit around and shoot the shit about some of their worst dating nightmare stories. Are you
ready for it? I am. Okay. Let's get into it with our panel. Joining me today is a writer and
actress from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia,
licorice pizza, New Girl,
Santa Clarita Diet, and Taylor
Swift's anti-hero music video,
which you should count as a
movie credit. Her show,
A Man on the Inside, is streaming now on Netflix.
It's Mary Elizabeth Ellis.
It's me. Hello, welcome, welcome, welcome.
That's the only thing I've won an award for.
I have an MTV music video award.
And let's celebrate that.
Let's celebrate it.
We also have a comedian, actor,
and digital creator who has appeared
on Grownish and the Netflix's
Choke Festival, it's Alec Flynn.
Good to be.
Alec, and for the listeners at home who aren't watching the live feed, Alex has made the
bold choice to stand.
I'm a standing guy.
I'm going to get in a good 90-degree position.
He's got a very firm stance.
Firm stance.
I feel really secure, actually.
I am going to look like your stepfather in the back of the T-ball game, just kind of
doing one of these.
Exactly.
Get your head in the game.
Thanks, Steve.
Yeah, I'm not going to yell, but I am going to, I'm going to intently watch.
He wants you to look.
Love him, but he's not going to push it.
Nope.
Okay.
Finally, we welcome a comedian and actress who was named one of the comedians to watch
at the New York Comedy Festival.
She's in an upcoming Pete Davidson Project and proudly holds the title of Sock Wrestling Champion.
It's Miranda Meadows.
What up, Dole?
Hello, welcome, welcome, welcome.
Everyone, thank you so much for joining me.
Yeah, sock wrestling.
Yeah, actually, let's start off with Sock Wrestling.
What is that?
So I go to this comedy festival called Skangfest every year.
And last year, I wrestled a tiny, tatted, trained in Jiu-Jitsu woman in sock wrestling.
And you take off one sock, and whoever gets the last sock off wins.
Went three rounds.
You're trying to take her sock off.
Yes.
She's trying to take your sock off.
Long socks, too. Sports socks.
Huh.
Okay.
And I won.
And it was grueling.
And there's not an ounce of this, that's sexual.
Uh-uh.
No, but it was.
But my nips were hard at the end of it.
But just from the effort, you know.
Just from the effort.
Our bodies are incredible.
Our bodies are incredible.
Thank you guys all so much for joining me today.
I am so pleased to have all of you here with me today because it's going to be a very exciting time.
This is, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong in the booth, this is my last episode as a single man.
Wow.
Congratulations.
Well, at least in person.
This is the last episode I'll be recording as a single man.
I'm getting married in a couple of weeks.
So you guys...
You hear that, folks.
There's still time.
You're still done.
You can get in there.
You can get in there.
So thank you so much for coming together and joining me with me today.
Before we get into the meat of your stories, though, we do have our traditional icebreaker question.
These questions have been come up with by relationship experts here at bad dates, as well as crowdsourced from our listeners like you.
if you have a question,
an icebreaker,
a piece of advice,
or a comment,
or something mean
you want to say about me,
you can email
bad dates pod at gmail.com.
I don't read the emails,
and I'm sure they'll filter out
the mean ones, hopefully.
Anyways, today our icebreaker question
comes from Miranda.
Wow, is that interesting?
Set up roads off.
Give a New Year's resolution
to a romantic partner,
current or former,
for how they
should be trying to improve their lives.
Bad dates.
Miranda, we'll start with you.
Well, Miranda.
Okay, so my girlfriend right now,
I think she could better her life in this new year
if she stops playing these horizontal,
full-screen iPhone games.
She is locked in while she should be at work,
but she is locked in on brawl stars,
this weird Tetris game,
this other game
that the kids play
where they kill each other
Oh, the kids are playing a game
where they kill each other?
Oh, yeah.
I don't like that at all.
I'm fascinated by people
who play these games actually.
Yeah, because these games are like,
you know, they're like the grocery store
magazines of like games, you know what I mean?
Where you're like, why would this make any sense
to like a regular person looking for a game?
Sure, but it sucks you right in.
Yeah, right in.
It's like all I do is match four cookies together.
Do you guys get the ads for the mobile games, too, where it's like, you're a wife and the baby's crying.
And then you have to choose between an axe and a bottle to feed your baby.
And, like, in the ad, you like, they choose the axe.
And then she cuts the, it's like these weird life simulators that are on mobile that they constantly advertise to you.
And it's crazy.
But you also think to yourself, like, I would definitely pick the right one.
I would pick the right one.
I would pick the axe. I'm a smart guy.
the choice, if I had to feed my baby, a choice between a bottle and an axe, I'm pretty
confident. I would get it right. Thank you very much. If you do click them, though, it takes you to
like a weird website and then you have to be like, wait, I didn't want this. I wanted the game
where I had to pick the axe or the baby. I'm pretty sure that's how my Twitter got hacked by
the Russians, RIP, my Twitter account. Oh, no. No, honestly, I'm going way better off.
Thank you, Russia. Thank you so much. Take it. Take it, Russia. You can have it.
Famous forgiving freedom
Exactly
Mary, what is
I'm so sorry
Oh you know what
My partner's name is John Michael
And he understands your pain
Is he from the South
He is very Catholic
Very Catholic
It's either very Catholic or from the South
I'm like it's Mary Elizabeth
Yeah so I'm so sorry
Mary Elizabeth
What would be the New Year's resolution
You would ask someone to take
Oh my gosh it's so much pressure
There was a lot of, like, writing Dave Matthews' lyrics and cards to me.
Okay, so moratorium on Dave Matthews band lyrics.
Like, just know me.
That's not me.
It's not going to go well that way.
New Year's resolution, know your partner.
No me.
But I love a big thought.
That was you.
Yeah, no.
Mary Elizabeth, that was.
Okay.
Finally, Alec Flynn, my friend.
Yes.
Are we giving a resolution to a past or current lover?
I'm going to give one to my current love.
You guys are both brave.
Yeah, you know what?
I want her to keep watching more ghost reaction videos on YouTube.
I just like, I get such a kick out of watching her just sit there and just like when they go like, oh my God, we're going to check out the basement now.
And she's like, and she's into that.
Oh, my gosh.
She's into the little smudges on the photos that could be something.
It's like when they have like a fake like iPhone reader and they go, this is mold.
Multiple key runs or whatever, and I'm like, she just, she goes, what the heck?
And this gets me so.
And this is all happening on the history channel?
No, it just really makes me happy, just knowing that someone can, like, truly find joy out of something.
Something that is so dark.
Does she believe in ghosts?
Yeah, oh, yeah.
She's big into the ghosts, but she loves these two YouTubers called Sam and Colby.
Have you heard of these?
I have not, but it is.
Sam and Colby, fighting ghosts.
You heard of these people?
No, but what name?
I didn't hear about it.
Well, she's just in bed on YouTube.
And then I'm just looking at her and be like, oh, my God.
And I'm like, I can't believe someone's fired up about stuff.
We've touched upon actually the real problem with, we are now living in sort of the YouTube generation of like, now the celebrities are YouTubers.
And unfortunately, the number of times I've heard a sentence where it's like, well, you know Josh and Colby, right?
And it's like, those are just two guys' names.
And I get that they are more famous than I will ever be.
They have 100 million followers on YouTube.
But it's like, you can't just be, your entity can't just be, hi.
I'm Kelly and this is Ashley.
And we are the biggest thing on YouTube.
It's just, it's crazy to be.
Like, you have to come up with another name.
It's in there are such basic names.
It's like, it could be anybody.
No, I don't know, man.
You throw out some, like, YouTube names during a stand-up set.
People get fired up.
People do.
Really?
It's really shocking how much YouTube this country is watching.
I talk about my, my, my, um, my, my, um, my gym.
Renzi roommates sometimes, and I talk about like, yeah, I let them, I throw on the YouTube,
let them watch Outdoor Boys and people like in my sets are like, oh, let's go.
I know that guy.
Outdoor boys.
It is one of stand-up has really, so much of stand-up these days is audiences being like,
I recognize that.
That's celebrity, though, right?
And it's getting harder, though, because there's no monoculture.
There's very few things that everybody in the country knows about now.
It's true.
It's all so divided.
I watched Alien Earth, which, by the way, is so fucking good.
but I was like it's so sweet how they cast all these like nobody knows these people and then I started looking them up and I was like they're all so much more famous than I will ever yeah yeah because they're on shows that like sex lives of college girls I didn't watch that one or like yeah there's too much there's so much content there's so many people working that there are no famous people actually anymore it's just successful people who are working and paying their marriages that's how we you know we have Danny DeVian on our show where like they'll never be
be like another that you know exactly yeah they're not they're not making julia roberts anymore
they just aren't it's just a lot of people who can like barely afford it two-bedroom
yes that's really like we're all working but are we yeah not really hobbling together something
is this happy for you listening at home is this something that you enjoy listening to okay
we'll start complaining a lot so um i'm going to go ahead and give my current lover a new year's
resolution as well and uh the new year's resolution i would like him to adhere to is that he
will make a concerted effort not to fall asleep on the couch every single night and then only to
wake up at 3 a.m. and then move into the bed. I always tell him when I see him falling asleep on the
couch, hey, do you just want to go down? We could just go down now. It's fine. And he refuses. He
refuses. He wants to fall asleep in the bean bag. And I get so mad because it's so hard to get him up
and then move him downstairs into our bedroom. So for my New Year's resolution, I would
like him to act like an adult and go to bed. Okay? And that is that. If you have any icebreaker
questions you'd like me to ask my panel, please email us at baddatespot at gmail.com. Someone is checking. I promise.
Bad dates.
We're going to start with Mary Elizabeth.
Oh, great.
Mary Elizabeth, before you began, though, set the scene for us.
What is your style?
I know you've been with your partner for a long time, but previous to him, were you dating around?
Were you monogamous, non-monogamous?
Were you a slut?
What was your vibe?
I mean, yeah, like, I was in college.
I was having fun.
I mean, I literally was like in college the last time that I was single because and right
after college.
So I was collegeing it, you know?
Like, a lot of alcohol involved.
Like, yeah, you know, you might like.
like just be like my house is so far away so sure like let's just do whatever so I can sleep here
you know what I mean that is so real when someone offers to pay for the Uber ride there was no
Uber I know I know but the equivalent of that today is I will go home with someone if they
were paying for the user that's all they need because it's just so otherwise far you know and I've
been drinking so yeah I had a I had a lot of I had a lot of I had a lot of boys
friends before um i think it was very like artisty and you know is the current one an artist
as well he is he is the guy that i'm with now what medium his name is charlie day oh did you know
that i'm familiar with charlie day he's an actor and a writer and a musician and uh he's a multi-media
artist he really is he's a one of those people that's like what's this and then you're like
someone's like it's a musical instrument from ancient greece and he's like ooh
Oh, fuck that guy.
Fuck that guy.
Fuck that guy to hell.
Yeah.
Okay.
So where does your story take place then?
Is this a story about Charlie or someone pre-Charlie?
Oh, boy.
We are in 2000 and, I don't know, five, I think.
Lovely.
And we're going to go to Mexico.
And I don't, we haven't left the country yet together at this point.
So like, getting ready to leave the country together.
And he's like, he's like.
like he gets a little anxious. So he's like anxious. He's like so nervous and we're packing and I'm like,
he's like freaking out. Is it a flying thing or is it a life thing? It's like packing and like how are we
going to get there and what's it going to be like and we're leaving the country together. And he
grew up with, I think he went to Germany once when he was like eight and then he wasn't on a
plane again until he was 25 flying to LA to test for like a pilot. Wow. So not a lot of like
practice, you know. But he's like getting more and more anxious until I'm finally like,
like, motherfucker, you need to calm down. Like, I don't, we're just going to Mexico. We're
going to be okay. So whatever's happening, chill out, right? So we have booked one of the nicest
rooms at an all-inclusive resort in Cabo. Oh, the nicest room in Cabo is sort of like
the hottest guy in prison, you know?
Yeah. And maybe not even. Like the hottest guy in like eighth grade or something. You know what I mean?
We're like still a lot of acne. We're grading on a curve. We're grading. Yeah. Like awkward. So we get to this hotel and they're like, oh, your room's not ready yet. But here stay in this really small room while we get your room ready, which I'm sure is a move. But we're like, whatever, fine. So we're in that room for a while. They don't get our room ready. We go and we keep checking with the guy at the front desk. Like maybe you're still.
flipping like a five or ten here, like, you know, hey, we'd really like our room.
So the next night they're like, okay, the room you asked for is ready.
So then they check us into a bigger room with a hot tub, which is just a bath tub that you can fill up.
Oh, I hate that.
That is the biggest scam.
That's not a hot tub.
When they list a hot tub and it's just a slightly bigger tub.
Or like, but outside, you're like an outside bath tub.
Forget about it.
It's crazy.
Well, no, it's got the jets in it, you know.
I don't even know if it did.
Oh, then it's definitely not a hot.
No, I'm picturing sort of an old west like tub out on the...
That's more of a jug.
With well water.
Yeah.
Oh, with horses drinking out of it.
Yes.
But we're on the back of the hotel.
There's mosquitoes.
Like, we're like, this is definitely not the room that we booked.
So that Charlie keeps slipping in this guy money.
And finally we're like, how are we going to get the room?
And then we realize that like there's only four of the room that we booked in this massive hotel.
That's the size of a cruise ship.
So many people.
are getting married there this weekend.
We're definitely not the only people who booked that room, you know?
So we come up with a plan, and Charlie goes and slips the guy some more money.
And the guy's finally like, my friend, like, you keep giving me money.
Like, what is it that you do?
And Charlie's like, I'm the writer, the travel writer for the Los Angeles time.
And the guy's like, oh my God, it's so crazy that your room is ready.
Like, it's ready right now.
That is brilliant.
That is, and this is 2005, so this, he was someone, like, he could have used a separate car.
2004, 2000, yeah, yeah, but he chose the smart car.
We're like, let's go travel writer for the L.A. Times.
So immediately in our room, he takes me down to the beach.
He finds the shell.
He's like, oh, look, we're looking for shells.
We used to always look for shells.
He's like, oh, look, I found this shell, but there's something in it.
And I'm like, gross.
And he's like, look at it.
And I'm like, no, get away from me.
And it's a ring.
Oh, my.
And then he gets on.
I thought this was supposed to be a bad day.
Wait, wait.
Yeah, your bad date story is your engagement story.
It's my engagement.
We haven't been on our room for two days.
Like, you know, so he proposes to me.
It's very sweet.
We go down the beach to the local, like, restaurant to have some margaritas,
get back to the room, and I immediately get Montezuma's revenge.
So I'm just, like, out of both sides.
Both sides.
In the, like, big, beautiful, like, foam marble, like, bathroom.
so it's just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, you know, echoing.
And it's a, and how big is the room?
Because my worry is always the proximity.
The bathroom to the bed is often quite close.
Yes, it was too close.
It was too close for someone that you've just got in.
There's no amount of volume.
Then you can check.
You can check on you, right?
The exhaust fan in the bathroom is not enough.
Go to go to that side and just be like, you're all right, babe.
Oh, so sorry, babe.
I'm definitely one of those people who, I don't know how you guys are,
but, like, when I'm throwing, like, when I'm throw-up sick, like,
no one around me.
Yes.
No one around.
But, hey, at least you got that ring to look at all.
I got a ring while I was puking and shitting.
And so it's a very sweet and lovely date, but also.
I have a technical question about the pissing and shitting.
Great.
Or throwing up and shit.
I think we all do.
Okay.
So it's coming out north and south.
Yeah.
Okay.
What do you do, if you're taking care of South.
Yeah.
And the river's still flowing north.
Has this never happened to you?
I guess not.
That's simultaneously.
It's been sort of an, it's sort of a trade-off.
It tag in, tag-out.
I think it's more of a that, but you have the trash can there just in case.
I see. You're not trying to do one of these where you're like.
No.
Between the legs.
Between the legs.
Split the wick out.
Split the wicks.
It's also, you know, that thing.
where, like, you're like, I don't even like touching hands as we established.
I'm not like a handshake or like gross germs.
And then like when you're sick, you're just like, oh, my face on this cold toilet is
the best thing that's like ever happened.
It hits every time.
The bathroom floor, honestly, I've woken up worse places than the bathroom tile floor.
Like the beanbag.
Yeah, the beanbag, for instance.
Your pan attention, Miranda.
So, Mary Elizabeth, what do you think you learn?
from this experience that you took on with you
into your very now, very successful
marriage. Never again
an all-inclusive resort
in Cabo, I think.
And don't drink
a drink full of ice.
True. In Cabo.
You can't even trust the ice?
No, it's made of the water.
I guess you know what? I'm learning.
I'm learning slowly. Yeah.
You're Bill Nigh to me right now.
I am.
Does turn into ice.
It does. And ice can turn into
The water.
Famously.
And therein lies the rub.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bad dates.
Bad dates.
Turning now to Alec Flynn.
Alec, you're a new friend.
Hey.
So give me a little bit about your background in dating and love and life.
Are you a ladies man?
Are you a single guy?
What's your deal?
What is your style?
I'm just, you know, I'm pretty
good, all-around good guy
I like to think, anyway.
Okay, well, actually speak louder, so
I mean, the vest isn't really helping much.
Yeah, not at all.
It is covered in dog air.
It's my girlfriend's dog.
Oh, okay, there we go.
So, yeah, I do have a girlfriend right now.
I love her dearly.
She's got this dog, this, like, French bulldog
named Tugboat.
This thing can't breathe at all.
Well, genetically speaking,
they're not supposed to exist.
So that's our best.
Crazy, man.
Heck, I have them in the room sometimes when we hook up.
But before you're a girlfriend.
Yeah.
What were you doing?
Were you fucking around?
Were you a good boy?
Yeah, a little bit here and there.
I mean, I was in a, I came to L.A. like, about three years ago or so.
And I've just.
From where?
From Denver.
And then before that, I grew up in Boston.
Boston, well, congrats on getting out.
Yeah, dude.
And you're not a cop.
No, I know I have resting cop face for sure.
Well, it's, you know, you.
You can't help where you grew up, you know.
Step out of the car for me.
Damn, that's good.
They really bought it.
Okay, so here's what we're going to do.
So you're in L.A.
You're sewing your wild oats.
You're a young, you're a handsome guy.
Of course.
Just standard stuff.
So take me to where your story takes place.
So this is actually back in college in Manchester, New Hampshire.
A little small Catholic university called St. Anselm.
ground zero for guilt
yeah pretty much
shout out my former classmate
Caroline Levitt
what up
yes
straight up
I'll show you a picture later
whoa
but anyway
it's the two
it's the night before
graduation
I had been
hooking up with this girl
that I had never met before
until senior week
you're familiar with senior week
where it's just like
you know very raw raw
we're all just going to get black out
for an entire week before
we did this thing
our tradition during senior year week was keg races
where you would put together a team of four
buy a keg and whoever finished the keg first one
A team of four?
Yeah.
Did you ever win?
I don't think I ever did
but I think it's because I would get blackout
before the end of the keg.
I'm like no one remembers who one.
It was a sort of who's line situation
where it's like, you know, the points don't matter.
It's just for the love of the game
kind of thing.
But yes, very familiar with you.
Yeah, I should go to school in the north
No, I went to school in the Midwest.
Ah, both similar types of, like, you know, dark drinking.
Yes, yes, yes.
Like, the sun does not come out for most of the year, so you are just, like, kind of in a basement somewhere, just drowning your sorrows.
Drowns.
And cheap beer.
What was your cheap college beer?
Ooh, Keystone Light.
Miller High Life.
Milwaukee's Best.
Ooh, the Beast.
The Beast.
I actually, I could go for a Milwaukee's best right now.
So you are sleeping with this young lady.
that you had heretofore not known.
Not known.
And by the way, mind you,
senior year I messed up in the housing lottery
because I did a semester abroad before.
I'm sleeping in a bunk bed the entire year.
Top bunk.
22 year old in a top bunk.
That is a tough image.
Tough image, trust me.
Not, hasn't gone well most of the year.
I get why you choose to stand.
Yeah, exactly.
He needs two feet on the ground.
It's fun to feel that there's something, you know,
between me and the ceiling.
But, yeah, it's, I don't know.
Were you friends with the person in the bottom bunk?
No.
No.
No.
Were you, did you become friends with the person in the bottom bunk?
Wow.
Yeah, it was kind of dark.
A long year.
That is a long year.
But, yeah, pretty much had like met her, like the dance, whatever that we were doing.
Like, there was a thing.
We'd hooked up that the night before.
Then that night, you know, we're laying in the top bunk.
We're buck naked.
Wait, wait, wait.
This woman went home with you to the.
The top bunk twice.
Nice, dude.
Did you not make love in a top bunk?
I have, listen, I have had sex with plenty of RAs in a twin-sized bed, but I don't know that I've ever done it in a top bunk before.
And I think this is a real testament to you, my friend, that you managed to lure a woman back to a top bunk not once but twice.
I have a bit of a silver tongue, I won't mind you, you know.
I think the cop face in New England definitely helps me.
Crushes.
Yeah, those credits transfer for sure.
Ma'am.
Ma'am.
So you're lying in the top bunk.
What happens next?
Yeah, just a little bit of pillow talk.
It's like, you know, your usual, like, hey, you know, I want to.
He's like, I want to travel to Europe.
Like, after I graduate.
And I'm like, I'm out of paper towels, use this T-shirt, you know.
Oh, God.
Yeah, this sounds like AI written college dialogue.
Yeah, this is pretty much what I was like, like, oh, yeah, whatever.
the door swings open
and this guy
in like a CrossFit T-shirt
and a full tattoo sleeve
comes in
grabs me by the ankle
from the top bunk
just rips me off
and starts like beating the fuck out of
I'm like ass naked
with a rock hard erection
that and I'm just thinking
and I'm not picturing this
in a lascivious way
but just imagining getting pulled
out of bed with a rock hard dick
the mechanics of that as you're flying through the air
it's so much more dangerous for you
brother I could have had a broken dick I could have went full Rodman
oh yeah yeah but yeah just literally like this
just getting like my face out of it yeah so the Kool-Aid man has busted
through the wall oh yeah beating the shit out of me
beating the crap out of me that's awful she yeah he was just like a met
he's yelling at me he's like did you know she had a boyfriend I'm like what the
fuck is going on
Was she like...
She was screaming...
Michael!
Michael!
Well, I remember this specifically because she started screaming.
She started screaming, she goes like,
Don't hit him, don't him!
Hit me! Hit me!
Oh, hit me!
Hit me!
And then I started screaming, hit her!
No!
I got the fuck off me!
Oh, my God.
Alex.
He's like, I will later.
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
Oh, my God.
And he finally leaves.
And I'm like, just like, what the fuck was that?
She's just like, oh my God, that was my boyfriend.
You didn't tell me you about a boyfriend?
She goes like, yeah, I did.
I go, oh, shit, I must have forgot.
So he left without her?
Yeah, I'm so confused by that.
This man came in, Incredible Hulk to you, down to the ground, boots, etc.
and then left without his girlfriend.
He went downstairs because I was like,
don't me fucking get my shit together.
Oh, oh, wow, wow.
So he's waiting downstairs.
Yeah, he's waiting downstairs.
Meanwhile, like, eventually, like, leaves,
and all of her friends are like,
all my fucking, what is it, stairway.
And I'm like, what, I'm like,
I'm like, yeah, I'm literally like,
did you fucking, I'm like,
I think they just ratted me out to, like,
and then I got my shit kicked in.
not to mention then like my buddy is downstairs asleep on the couch
when I finally get downstairs I'm like bro what the fuck was that he's like what
I'm like I just got my shit kicked in like from fucking what's her face
and you were in a goddamn beanbag yeah I'm like you were asleep and he was just
I mean asleep is probably generous and you never figured out the mystery of who
ratted I don't really I was graduating in six hours did he was did he wait for you
or he just left after that he got what he needed
Yeah, God, what do you need it?
Did you have a black eye for graduation?
I had a huge lump on my forehead.
Oh, I thought you were on your dick.
I mean, a concussion and a hangover is certainly not fun.
That's tough.
Yeah.
That's tough.
We've lost a lot of great people that way.
Concussions, CTE.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, thank God we still have Alec Flynn.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So not, yeah, I wish it was a good ending.
Yeah, I do too.
I wish that you hadn't screamed hit her.
hit her,
you know,
but you were young
and we all grew.
I would yell it again.
I would do it again.
I'm trying to help.
I think it's his catchphrase.
Isn't that your catchphrase?
Hit her.
Hit her.
Bad dates.
We've reached the end of the road
and at that end of the road is
Miranda Meadows and
her story Miranda, same question
that I have peppered the other two
with. What's your date and style?
Give me a little background on you.
Okay, so I didn't go to college.
So you guys talking all this college
talk, sucks for me
because every shitty relationship I
experienced was real life.
Oh, no. And that shit sucked.
Oh, no. You were raw-dogging it.
Yeah, a little bit here.
Sometimes, you know,
with my fingers.
I meant metaphorically, but thank you.
But yes.
So, yeah, dude, I moved to L.A. when I was 18, didn't go to college, just...
From where?
From Detroit.
Thank you.
Okay. Love that you asked, just like you have to...
Yeah, you're doing my job.
Yeah, I got to know these things.
But yeah, from Michigan, Detroit, and...
Great airport.
Fabulous airport.
Detroit, Ross.
I'm being real.
I'm being real.
I'm being real.
I'm being real.
and I will fly through, I will make sure to fly through Detroit during Christmas time
because you know, you know Miranda what they do to that airport during Christmas time.
Oh, they make it look nice.
Nice.
Beautiful Christmas lights.
I'll see you at the airport, dude.
See you there.
I'll see you there.
Get some skyline chili.
Okay.
Okay, so I, when I first moved out here, I didn't have any friends.
I was a loser.
No.
No, my Jolken Boosters podcast, man.
I mean, they're in their faces.
Yeah, right?
I didn't really date anyone in high school, super prude, still was really prude when I moved out here, but I started like, you know.
Where did the prude, where was the prude rooted in? Was it religious or was it just? Am I allowed to, am I? Yeah. I feel like, let's get good for views, but I was molested.
Oh, then that'll do it. That'll do it. That'll do it. That's definitely going to be a clip for Instagram now.
I think that's the only reason I'm even a little bit straight. Because I was molested by a man. Like if I was molested by a woman, I'd be a super dead dude.
Well, I can't say, listen, we're not a science podcast here, okay?
We can't say for certain if that's true or not.
We have one test case, and we're going to go with it, and we're going to say that that's true.
Yeah, so that's why I was, like, really prude, and I moved out here, and I was like,
ah, there's so many people and men and women and people.
And then, I don't know, I moved out here, got more like, learned myself more, was dating men.
all bad. And then, like, in, like, 2021 is when I started, uh, realized I was a little, like, more
gay than I thought. And how many years had you spent in L.A. before you realized that?
I moved here in 2017. So it took you about four years. So you, you did actually have the
standard college experience. Yeah. You went to a place with a lot of new people, fucked a lot of
terrible men. And at the end of it, you came out. Realizing you preferred women. Yes. So you went to
Oberlin, baby.
That's liberal arts education right there.
No degree, but hey.
It's all good.
Yeah, so then, I don't know, I was just dating around in the pandemic.
This story takes place in the pandemic.
It was one of my last dates I went on with a guy.
And it was one of the apps, classic.
Well, do you mind which one?
Dude, it was pretty sure Hinge.
Hinge.
Okay.
depending on the timeline Hinge was the one
Hinge was popping off dude
Hinge was popping
And they created so many of them that it is now
Like you've completely missed this
I missed it I met my husband and a barred
But you have to understand that like it's different
For different communities like Tinder for gay people
is exclusively for love and relationships
Tinder for straight people is only for hooking up
So I'm told
My sister's been with her boyfriend for like nine years
And they met on Tinder
Well the sex must have been great
To that first night when they met
Shout out my sister.
So, yeah, Hinge, which, by the way, just need to let you guys know,
I did meet my girlfriend, current girlfriend in real life, off apps, and I just need to
congratulations.
Let you guys know so you don't think I'm fucking losing.
I invited her to my birthday cookout.
But how did you know her to invite you?
I just saw her on Instagram.
She was a sign girl that was like, I have a boyfriend and he was like, you and me.
Instagram's the best dating app there is.
Oh, no, no, no.
Instagram.
We've been saying Instagram is a new grinder for a while now.
Oh, amazing.
Mary, Elizabeth, where did you meet Charlie?
In a bar.
In a bar.
Nice.
Look at that.
And I met mine on vacation.
We did it, you guys.
We did it.
We've covered it.
Go us.
Yeah.
Fuck Hinge, except.
True.
Unless they want to sponsor us.
Yeah.
Right, right.
Yeah.
But anyway, so I met this guy of a dating app.
And we were like, oh, we should hang out.
But, like, nothing to do.
Pandemic.
Riot's in the streets, you know?
Yeah.
And he was like, let's go to a.
a protest. And I was like
protest is the first day. And I was
like, okay. It does
it does a little bit seem like he
might have missed the point of the process.
Sure, sure, sure. No, but that's very
American though. Yeah. Miranda,
like, to your point though, I mean, like, for him seeing
it as like an activity to do
is like, that's a very American
thing. Whereas we're like, even
like the most, like, you know, the
process we had in June and the one in October,
I just like, people are like, yeah, I'm going to
get coffee with friends. And then like,
We'll see what time brunch gets out, and then I'll go.
And then I have a birthday party later.
So, like, I think we'll do, like, three hours of it.
Like, real protest if you want something.
We should talk to the French about how they protest, okay?
Those motherfuckers know how to protest.
They do.
I agree with meeting somebody at a protest if it's not off an app first.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Going there and being like, where?
Did you?
Oh, sure.
Everyone's wearing a mask.
Everyone's wearing a mask.
Did you feel pressure to make a sign?
Um, yes, but I didn't because I was like, what if he wants to hold my hand?
Aw.
That's cute.
And did he make a sign?
No, nobody made a sign, but he was screaming another woman's name the whole time.
But it's just a bad joke.
Okay, okay.
Somebody's testing material.
All right.
So, Miranda, already the stage is set for not a great date, I have to say.
A somber date at best is what you're in for.
That's the best case scenario
What happens next?
So, you know, we do the whole protest
We're in Pasadena
We're making it loud in the quiet neighborhoods
You know, we're out there
And then we like
Hug each other goodbye
And we never speak to each other again
What if you were like
And I got COVID?
Yeah, yeah, right?
Right, that honestly would have been a better ending
Tazed by the police
He was not in that protest
But yes
So was it a, was it one of those magical things, though, where no one ghosted each other?
I love, I love it when nobody reaches out.
You ghost each other.
Double homicide.
Double homicide.
That's beautiful.
Double homicide.
It's art, if you ask me.
It's like, you intuited none of these people, neither of us need to speak ever again, and that's okay.
What for you, what was it for you, though?
Was it the vibe?
Was it the choice of location for the date?
I kind of don't really like people that can't.
keep a conversation going or people
that aren't just, they're lame.
Like, they're fucking lame. I'm like, I want someone I can
talk to. I mean, everyone does,
but like matches my like
vibe and flow of
either relationship talk about anything.
It's a very good example of your flow.
Yeah, yeah. Someone who does that with you.
You can get in through the cracks. I'm not doing it by yourself.
Yeah. And I will say my girlfriend matches me.
So. I would say mine too.
Yeah.
Yours? My girlfriend. Yes.
And how about Charlie?
My girlfriend as well.
Yay!
Bad dates!
All right.
You guys, this has been so much fun.
Thank you so much for joining me.
Now comes my favorite part of the day.
Plugs, everybody.
Mary Elizabeth Ellis, where are you?
And where can the people find you?
And what are you doing these days?
I am on Instagram.
That's my only real social media situation.
But I have season two of my Netflix show,
a man on the inside with Ted Dantzolm.
So good.
Thank you.
Is he the best?
It's the fucking best.
But you know who's better?
Mary.
Mary Steen Virgin.
I mean, and also like, just to be acting with Mary Steenbergin and then just
she's so dreamy.
Yeah.
It's great.
It's a lovely show.
And then we're going to start season 18 of always sunny in Philadelphia.
Which is really insane.
Are you guys running coming up on the longest running, Sukhum?
We are the long.
You are the longest running live action.
Live action sitcom of all time.
Wow.
Yeah.
And I wrote and directed a short film that's on Vimeo, so please look that up because I want people to watch that.
It's called Last to Leave.
Love.
And it's spooky.
So maybe your girlfriend will cheer for how scary it is.
Broaden her horizons.
Get her from YouTube to Vimeon the high-deaf ghosts.
I think that would be a pretty easy transition.
Professional jump.
All right, Alec Flynn.
What are you doing these days?
Where can the people find you?
Just on Instagram, it's Big Al Flynn.
I have a podcast called Big Al's Grill ASMR.
I just grill outside and chill out with my friends.
That sounds lovely.
It's pretty good time.
It's pretty relaxed.
Good idea.
Yeah, and then if you want to come see me do stand-up,
people have been calling the show's shocking.
You know, I just, in this day and age,
all I can think of is that you,
like have a second penis or something like that like because it's like what what shock we're going to
cut that he's just in his bunk bed uh but yeah it's it's a good time I mean the hour is really
solid and I'm just excited so new tour dates are going to be coming for 2026 and what's the handle
again? Big Al Flynn big Al Flynn and it's an hour it's a whole yeah I mean good job more in the
poll past year he's been crushing it I'm going to say the number one thing people say to me when I tell
them, I have a new hour. That's a lot
to remember. Oh, yeah.
That's a lot to remember. You remember all that?
That's a lot to remember up there. Do you ever like,
I don't know, my friends in Boston when like
you just do a long set and like you bomb and they
just go, dude, I can't believe you remembered all that.
It is sort of the like stand-up equivalent of like in theater
when you're like, the costumes were great.
Yeah. You remember, you learned all those lines.
Yeah. Yeah, your shoes
were amazing.
Miranda Meadows, where
are you? And what are you doing?
these days? Well, you can find me on Instagram at Miranda Meadows with two S's.
Whoa. Yeah, whatever. And then I run a show at the comedy store called The Players. It's
half stand-up, half-short films. Do you ever want to do it? Hey. I just kind of want to try
stand-up. I'm scared. Yeah, if you ever want to do it. All right. I feel like Mary
Elizabeth, you have, you are so funny. And you have been on one of the funniest shows for the last
two decades. I feel like just
via osmosis, you could have
a pretty decent five in your back pocket.
Okay, I'll work on my tight five.
An hour is, that's too much to remember
you guys. Well, our next one's January
17th, 2020.
And it sounds like Mary Elizabeth is
headlining. And if you want, and then
you can play your short too if you want. Seriously.
And then
I just started a podcast. We recorded
our first episode last week. It's not out yet
but maybe by the time this is out. It will be.
It will. It's called Dead on Sunset. Let's go.
Dead on something.
What's it about?
It's me and my friend Effie.
We have the same last name.
We just found out we are the same great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandpa.
Whoa.
And she's also a door guy at the comedy store.
I'm a dorka at the comedy store.
We just honestly talk about her.
She's a trans woman.
She detransitioned.
Now she's re-transitioning.
We talked about me being molested.
Wow.
A laugh riot.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're going to monetize it a lot.
Definitely. I can feel the advertisers just like, oh, chomping at the bed.
They're like, release the podcast already.
It's going to be fun. All right. Well, everybody, if you liked what you heard today,
please go and review us wherever you listen to this podcast. Five stars, please.
None of this. Why rate something four stars? You know, like, I actually, I prefer a three star
to a four star because it's like, just bump it up to the five. What could possibly, I'm not learning
from your review. I'm not changing anything.
Three's right in the middle. Just give me five
or one. If you have three, then you have to
supplement it with a comment
or an actual written out like, here's what I like
and here's what I didn't like. No, if I leave
a small tip, I must speak to someone about it.
I would never just leave a small tip because of bad
service. If it's bad enough that it's affecting the tip,
I'm talking to somebody. Oh, love that you're like, I will
tip you. Oh, I'll tip you.
But you'll know.
But you'll know what you did wrong.
Happy New Year, everybody.
We are in for such a great 2026.
I can feel it.
It's going to be perfect.
The vibes are immaculate and I cannot wait to talk to you next time.
I'm Joel Kimbooster.
Goodbye.
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