Bad Dates with Jameela Jamil - Take Spokane By Storm (w/ Yvie Oddly, Meredith Casey, and Danny Jacobs)

Episode Date: January 6, 2025

On a new episode of Bad Dates, host Joel Kim Booster welcomes drag queen & recording artist Yvie Oddly, and comedians Meredith Casey and Danny Jacobs to discuss their most iconic dating fiascos. Yvie ...tries to maintain her date’s human dignity, but it’ll make a great story for the grandkids, Meredith is prepared to do some of the work, but maybe not on the hood of her Subaru, and Danny’s girlfriend meets his father, but, once you’ve listened, you’ll understand exactly what a terrible idea that was. If you’ve had a bad date you’d like to tell us about, our number is 984-265-3283, and our email is baddatespod@gmail.com, we can’t wait to hear all about it! Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video clips. Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video clips. Merch available at SiriusXMStore.com/BadDates.Tickets for our live show 1/25/25 at SF Sketchfest HERE: https://sched.co/1rbPt Joel Kim Booster: Psychosexual, Fire Island, Loot Season 2Yvie Oddly: @oddlyyvie on socials, @allaboutyvie on TikTok, new memoir All About YvieMeredith Casey: @murderdeathcasey on InstaDanny Jacobs: @dannyajacobs on Insta, The Understudies at The Groundlings Theatre, How To Destroy Everything podcast Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts to listen to ad-free new episodes.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Smart. Lads. Media. How long do you wait until the child is meeting any of these guys? Or has that happened yet? I don't think I will introduce my son to a man that I'm dating until it's like very serious, like a few years. Because if he disappears, you have to think about your kid,
Starting point is 00:00:35 an eight-year-old kid meeting a person that's important to mommy. And if he disappears, I mean, I could say that died. That's what my dad always did. They're like, man, whenever my mom dates somebody, they always die. It's a weird thing. Bad Dates. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another episode of Bad Dates, the podcast where me and a group of my funny friends get together and we talk about, oh, our tales from the trenches of dating, hooking up, situationships, even some relationships, actually. Some people made it all the way through to the relationship stage and it was bad.
Starting point is 00:01:21 It was bad the whole time. Can you believe it? I'm very excited about our guest this week but before we jump into that I do of course have as always a little bit of listener mail to get from this one is from Rosa. Dear Joel, I went on a couple of dates with a cute guy. Pretty normal good dates. Good convo, long hours spent together. There was a bit of a red flag on the second date which was that he was drinking a lot. There was a bit of a red flag on the second date,
Starting point is 00:01:45 which was that he was drinking a lot. Well, we were drinking a lot. But Danny told a story about being super drunk at a bar once, and then going to the bathroom and punching a mirror and then coming out covered in blood. I still found this endearing enough at the time to hook up with him. Danny asked me on a third date. I'm looking forward to it, and he confirms the day of. He even says he's on his way to the bar to meet me. I do remember he had said he would be day drinking with some friends earlier but didn't think much of it. I show up to the bar where we were meeting which is, I might add, close to his house. I wait 20, 40, 60 minutes and then when
Starting point is 00:02:20 I call him I could tell he was NOT in a car on his way and was drunk burping every other word. I couldn't even tell what he was saying and then the phone went dead. I went home and didn't hear from him again until exactly 5 months later when he sent me this text, Hey Long Time No Talk, crazy out of the blue question, I wanna ask, do you know anyone who can help me find some coke? My questions are, how much is too much to drink on dates and are men okay? some coke? My questions are, how much is too much to drink on dates and are men okay? Oh Rosa, Rosa, Rosa, I think you as a listener of this podcast understand by now that men are not okay. Men have not been okay for a long, long time. But my question to you Rosa, unfortunately, not to turn it around on you is, are you okay? Are you okay? Let's be real. This person, obviously the villain of the piece. Obviously the villain of the piece.
Starting point is 00:03:09 But you waited 60 minutes for this man at the bar before you decided to call it? I have to ask, what has happened to you that has traumatized you so deeply that you would wait 60 minutes for a drunk? That's the question. You need to look into the mirror and punch it maybe afterwards like this man did in his bar date because quite frankly, he gave you that he dropped that piece of information and you still hooked up with him and you wanted to go on a third date. So I think there is a there's a respect issue going on and I think the respect needs to come from you to you, Rosa.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You sound like you deserve better, obviously. And my final question, before I bring in the panel to weigh in on this story, is... Did you know where to get some good coke? Um, just a crazy question, just out of curiosity. Um, just wanted to know. Um, but I am not the only person who's weighing in here. Obviously, you did the right thing never speaking to this man again,
Starting point is 00:04:10 but maybe, just maybe, our panelists might have some other ideas of their own. First, I want to introduce this recording artist, rapper, fashion designer, and season 11 winner of RuPaul's Drag Race. I believe the very first winner we've had on. We've had some losers from that program on the show before, but never a winner. Please welcome Evie Oddly. Hello, Evie. Thanks for having me. It's nice to break your losing streak.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And then next we have a standup comedian who has appeared on Comedy Central and in the beta test and greener grass. Her name is Meredith Casey. Hello, Meredith. So glad to have you. Thank you. So funny. Love that we got you finally after years of asking.
Starting point is 00:04:57 We finally got you. We finally landed Meredith Casey. And finally, joining us is a writer, director, and actor who has appeared in Masters of Sex and On Becoming God in Central Florida. Oh, two incredible shows. Honored to have you here. Please welcome Danny Jacobs. Hello, hello. Thanks for having me. Of course. Now, guys, I want to ask you what your take is on Dear Rose's story here. I'm going to take it Rose is pretty young. I'm gonna guess she lives in a city like New York
Starting point is 00:05:28 and where drinking is pretty much what you need to survive to get by. But how much drinking is too much drinking, would you say? When does it become a problem? Well, my thing is, wait, so she, on the second date, he punched a mirror. He went to the bathroom. He told a story about being so drunk that he punched a mirror. He told a story about being so drunk that he punched a mirror.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I mean, despite this, she persevered and hooked up with him anyways. I think you've got to take people will tell you exactly who they are if you listen. And he told you exactly who he is. And, you know, who hasn't punched a mirror? Not I. I mean, I'm, who hasn't punched a mirror? Not I. I mean, we've all punched a mirror. Not gonna lie, I have punched a mirror. There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I punched a mirror. So when you're surrounded by glass mirrors, maybe don't throw the first punch. Yeah, no. I mean, to be fair to me, I was sort of living like a pink music video. Christina Aguilera, you are beautiful. Like, I was really living that fantasy. It had nothing to do fair to me. I was sort of living like a pink music video Christina Aguilera You are beautiful like I was really living that fantasy I had nothing to do with being drunk and had everything to do with low self-esteem so I
Starting point is 00:06:33 Can't I can't speak to his personal experience. I'm like not on his side, but I am definitely against dear Rosa like like I think Where she made the mistake was like okay, like he told you he punched Amir. That's fine. Fuck him like go ahead Fuck it. Yeah, honestly an aphrodisiac almost for me Yeah, like my my type of people that I'm like looking to hook up with are The exact people who are gonna ruin my life and that's great chemistry But like you gave the man a date chance you wasted some time No, you have to find somebody who bores the shit out of you
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yeah, and sometimes people just aren't good at reading in between the lines They're not really good at taking the information they've been given by the person they're going on a date with and sort of painting a picture of what their future would look like with that person. And so my advice to Rosa is to become a better artist. Take the information, take the context and start painting those landscapes of what you think the future might look like with this person. But of course men are not okay.
Starting point is 00:07:47 That's a given. That's a given. Straight men, no. I mean gay men. Men in general, not okay. Not doing well. But quite honestly Rosa, after your email, I'm not sure that women are doing okay either. I want to get now to our very first storyteller, Evie Oddly.
Starting point is 00:08:18 The scene is 2019, 21, 20, 20, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019,
Starting point is 00:08:32 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, 2019, She's somewhere in there. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like 2019. It's my first year of being a super-celebritous drag queen superstar. And I am on my first North American tour with a bunch of other drag queens.
Starting point is 00:08:57 We're hitting up all the big cities. It's so much fun. And then we get to Spokane, Washington. Wow. Hot bed, hot bed, hot bed of super cool, chill gay guys, I'm sure. OK, actually, that is kind of the trip about Spokane, Washington. It is like, obviously, as a gay person who has been in big cities, it might not be my first choice of like where to go for a vacation. But the like 30 gays who live there are wild and they go ham.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And I had already known that about Spokane deeply in my soul for some reason, but like we get there and there's a blizzard. So like, we can't have fun. We can't do anything. And what immediately happens is like 15 drag queens hop on Grindr and all start fighting for the same dick. Take Spokane by storm. I love it. Exactly. Luckily, I was the one single drag queen who had had enough dick that day.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And so I was like looking to eat some cake instead and found like a singular, strong Spokane bottom who was like, I would walk through a storm to take that dick. And I was like, that's paper bag, shoes, miles through the snow, you know, the whole nine yards up hill two ways. And, uh, an hour later he shows up like with icicles hanging out of his nose. Obviously a little drunk and was like, I told you I'd walk through a store for that dick. I love, I love, I mean you have to, it's like literally Swiss mountain dog, like that's what you have
Starting point is 00:10:44 to do when you're in the snow is drink. It's drink to get through it. It's drink to survive. And so I feel like this also goes back into Deer Rosa's story, because like I saw that he was drunk. He was like slurring his words. It was like a Tuesday night. So it's like, oh, girl, love to hear that.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Love to hear that. But luckily, we had a pleasant sex together. We like shared some sex. Like it was fantastic. He seemed to love it. So far not seeming like a bad date to me. He's seeming like a perfect scenario. Ray, isn't it amazing?
Starting point is 00:11:18 So we have some sex. It is, it's good enough we finish. And then he sits up and it and is like and has that look that I know people have like when they're like I don't think I like was good and immediately runs to the bathroom and just like door open starts like explosive shitting out whoa all of my cum and probably whatever else Was in him because it was like it was like a minute or two of just like me twiddling my thumbs on the bed Like so what do you do for work?
Starting point is 00:11:56 That was not I gotta say I thought the story was going in a different hole direction I did too. I thought the thing is, it gets worse because like, the door is open. So like, I'm just like pretending like my random trick. Why did he leave the door open? That's what I was wondering. That is the biggest mystery of the story thus far. I guess he ran in.
Starting point is 00:12:19 He really ran in like a cartoon character. It really was. He like ran in and immediately, like there was no time to slam a door behind him. If he did, that shit would have been everywhere. Like I would have been fined. But it wasn't done there because he like weekly calls out from this bathroom, I'm pretending doesn't exist. And it's like, hey, could you do me a favor? I see that trash can right over there. Could you hand it to me?
Starting point is 00:12:48 And so I'm like, I grab it and I'm trying to respect his dignity and humanity. So I'm like holding it backwards. Is there much of either of that left at this point? You know, somewhere in that shit, I know a human being lived. So I was like trying not to make eye contact with him but like the second I made the handoff the like symphony of shit was joined by an orchestral sound of people are pulling over in their cars
Starting point is 00:13:21 right now they're so they're so sad to have heard that, Evie. They're so sad. If they're not vomiting from just the sound. Yeah. It was like really gnarly, but I honestly am really proud of myself because like as a top, I've fucked so many people that have shit on my dick a little.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I've never fucked somebody so well that they couldn't keep any body fluids in, you know? I really love the spin that you're putting on this because many people would have sex with someone and then to see them immediately vomit afterwards might pause and say, was it me? Was it the sex with me that caused this? But no, in fact, you are spinning it in your mind and I think this is the level of delusion
Starting point is 00:14:10 that helped you win the competition that is RuPaul's Drag Race. To say, I am so good at sex that I made this person projectile vomit, projectile out of both ends of their body. They couldn't keep it in listen Joel all I'm saying is Legitimately, I would probably not be so cocky about that if number one. I did not know I sling some good pain and number two Well sadly number two for real this time
Starting point is 00:14:50 Like he I know that it was because I fucked him so well And he was a little drunk because yeah, like when I was making the awkward small talk of okay You gotta go now like oh, yeah, this was he literally walked up to me and was like Seriously, that was so fucking hot. We should do this if you're ever in Spokane again. I got the fuck eyes of like, honestly, I would take that dick right back in approval. And I was like, I don't need this approval anymore. Yeah, it sounded like I mean, you'd already won a gigantic competition, a huge cash prize, a year's worth of Anastasia Beverly Hills cosmetics. Did you really need the approval of someone with a stomach bug
Starting point is 00:15:31 in Spokane, Washington? No! It sounds like a stomach bug. It just, like, reminds me. It was very humbling, you know? When, like, the whole world knows how great you are at one thing, it was reminding me that like I still have hidden talents. Good for you.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Good for you. Yeah. It's a real shame there isn't a competition reality show that you could really flex that muscle on. Not yet. Not yet. I think we're getting there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 We're getting there. I'll make it. I'm going to call that bottom up and make him an executive producer. The whole show takes place in Spokane. What's in the water? We don't know. Meredith or Danny, do you have any thoughts or questions for EV based on this story?
Starting point is 00:16:19 I'm just so impressed. I'm just generally so impressed with your positivity about this. Yeah. If this happened to me, it would be such a nightmare that it would send me to therapy for several decades. And the fact that you've just sort of fluffed it off as if it's, you know, as a joyful moment in your life is so goddamn impressive. And I want to say hats off to you, sir. Thank you. Well, I mean, not many people have stories
Starting point is 00:16:49 that are actually going to interest their grandchildren. Like I don't know shit about my grandparents, but I know they're going to pay attention to this shit. Oh, they're going to love that. They're really going to love that. I really liked how you described him in the beginning. I liked how he was like he was like your Australian Shepherd I like that about him, but yeah this sounds like he had the flu or something here
Starting point is 00:17:12 it's it's so rare on this show when someone describes a bad date and Neither villainizes themselves nor really the person that is in the day There were no heroes or villains really in this story, as you've told it. It was clearly a bad date, but like, you were the hero. I was the hero. Yeah, I was the hero. He was an antihero and Spokane Washington was the real villain. What's the lesson that you took away from this story
Starting point is 00:17:46 that sort of adjusted your behavior or put in place a new rule for you that moving forward you lived by to avoid putting yourself in situations like this or did you learn anything from it at all? Yeah, no, I definitely learned. Like I learned that if you are really horny and in a small town, sometimes it's just better to jerk off, you know? Like, sometimes...
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. Wow. Thank you, Evie, Addy. That was an incredible tale that I can't wait for your grand- your grandchildren to hear someday. Next up at the plate is, uh, the very funny Meredith Casey. Meredith, give us a little history. Are you in a relationship now? Are you a relationship gal? Did you have much luck dating in the past?
Starting point is 00:18:52 What's the sitch? So I'm separated now. I am dating and trying to date. I have a kid, I have an eight year old and I'm noticing that at first I was nervous dating as a mom, you know, because it's gonna be tough, like who's gonna wanna fuck a mom? And it does turn out everybody loves him.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Everybody, honey. I guess anyone could say they're a mom to get tail. Like truly, you're not having to show the proof. Like you're you're saying you're saying it's a big draw for you. And so I guess what I would say to the women out there who are struggling to find sexual partners or people they want to date is maybe start making up a kid. Yeah, and if they want to rent my kid, I could use some extra cash. I'll send Dear Rose a picture of my son and she can pretend it's hers. I feel like we've just discovered a new romantic comedy movie franchise, honestly. If not romantic comedy, then certainly small business.
Starting point is 00:20:06 We will be seeing Meredith Pacey on Shark Tank any day now. I think this is a genius idea to help women in need. But where are we at with your story? Where in your history are we finding ourselves? So this was a few months ago, are we finding ourselves? [♪ Piano music playing. So this was a few months ago. Because I've been dating a little bit. Yeah, I've been dating like here and there.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I try not to date any comics, you know, no more comedians for me. But I found this guy on Hinge. And he was a very nice nice fella. I found this guy on Hinge. And he was a very nice fella. He asked me out right away and we went out to a neighborhood bar. He was kind of boring, which is nice, right? It's kind of like, okay, there's no visible red flags, and then after we had a couple drinks,
Starting point is 00:21:10 he walked me to my car and made out with me furiously. And I was like, oh, okay, that's kind of nice to be touched, to be wanted. put his hands down my pants and I was like, my son goes to school down the street. My house is two blocks up. I'm not a prude, but I don't want to get figured outside on the hood of my Subaru. I don't want, again, I live across from a church, I don't want a priest to see that. I don't want him to see that.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So then, okay, so then I was like, let's just go, let's hang out, my hair, oh my God, let's hang out another time. And he invited me over the next night, I went to his house, and he has a beautiful like three bedroom house in Los Villas. He's like secretly loaded. the next night I went to his house and he has a beautiful three bedroom house in Los Feliz. I find out he's rich.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Buick, I love the change. Buicks are sexier. Yeah, Buick's. If it was a Buick, you would have for sure done it, yeah. Oh, oh God, yeah, a gold Camry, I would have been, I would have been backwards on that thing. Doggy style on the other car. Isn't a Camry a Toyota though? Yeah, we're clearly car people. We're just jumping all around, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Well, he had a Tesla, which I famously do not. Of course you did. Yeah, see, okay, I famously do not fuck Tesla guys. So when I saw the Tesla, I was like, okay, I guess I'm gonna fuck a Tesla guy. But for me, I don't like Tesla people. Did you say you famously don't fuck Tesla guys? Oh yeah, no, that's a.
Starting point is 00:23:01 That is just something that is known about you? First thing I think of when I think of Meredith Casey, for sure. I do not fuck Tesla men, people know this. Like that is just something that is known about you. First thing I think of when I think of Meredith Casey, for sure. I do not fuck Tesla men. People know this. The reason why I don't fuck Tesla guys is because they, like, I find that you can tell a lot about people by what kind of car they drive. Oh, for sure. And I think Tesla men, men I'll say, are rude and entitled. And I could tell by the way that they drive
Starting point is 00:23:29 that they're gonna be selfish in bed. And boy was I right. Well, and what do you think about cyber trucks? What do you, how do you think cyber truck men fuck? I don't think they do. I really don't think cyber men are fucking. Cyber men. Cyber men.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I love it. The cyber men are totally not fucking. I think it's like, honestly, I think that that speaks. I think they're closeted in some way. Not like maybe sexuality, but closeted in some sort of a way. Closeted serial killer. Closeted. Yeah, closeted, yeah. They have a secret.
Starting point is 00:24:08 What's going on behind closed doors there? That's what I want to know with the cyber trucks. Why do you need a bulletproof car? You live in the suburbs, babe. You live in a cul-de-sac, okay? That is, like, it's a form of gender-affirming care, quite honestly. For you as a man who lives in a suburb in a cul-de-sac to own a cyber truck.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah, they're so ugly, I can't believe it. But back to your story. So you've gone on the second date. You're at this man's giant house. This beautiful house that is clearly, that is insanely clean, OCD clean, which is nice, but like suspicious, so clean that I think something is wrong. American psycho.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah, American psycho clean, but you know in Hamlet when she's got blood on her hands and she's like off, off, off, you know. Out damn spot. Out damn spot. Yes, I think that's how he cleans his place. It's just so clean. And it's clearly set up. Out damn spot. Yes, I think that's how he cleans his place. It's just so clean.
Starting point is 00:25:15 There's empty picture frames on the wall. There's stock photo ready to be filled. There's, I go, I look outside, he's got a beautiful backyard, it's this terraced garden, and there's a grill that has never been used, I don't think. Everything in his house has never been used. It's getting staged. It's giving like... It's staged. Yeah, like he doesn't live there.
Starting point is 00:25:38 This is where he takes his dates, though. It kind of felt a little like this is a real estate. This is a home I'm trying to sell. Which I guess he kind of is, little like this is a real estate. This is a home I'm trying to sell. We sit on the couch, fake plants everywhere, which is a red flag. Oh. I would never have a real plant, so I don't know. Get a real plant. I'm saying my house, babe, you see this plant right here?
Starting point is 00:26:06 That's fake. That's fake. Yeah. Who has the time? Exactly. I don't have the time. I feel like fake plant says, like, I want to be in touch with nature.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I am down to my roots. But also, I've got a busy week. I'm not going to remember to keep that. I'm traveling. I'm traveling. I'm traveling. I mean, who's watering the plants? Not me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Well, okay. For me, I was a little like, huh. Some of these red flags are, seem a little arbitrary. I'm gonna say it. Like Teslas, tire trucks, fake plants, too clean. Like so far his only crime really is
Starting point is 00:26:53 that he tried to finger you in public. He's definitely, I do not think he's, I think there is no crime, there is no criminal here. But okay, well, I'll say this. Okay, so we were on the couch and we start making out again and I go, do you want to go upstairs? And he goes, oh, hold on. I'm not that easy. And I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So then I make conversation. Oh, the fingering to the contrary. I know. And I was like, okay. So then I start making other conversation and we start making out again. And then I go, oh, I'm going to go upstairs. And he goes, oh, hold on. I'm not that easy. And I'm like, oh, okay. So then I make conversation. Oh, the fingering to the contrary. I know. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:25 So I start making other conversation and we start making out again. And then I go, hey, do you want to go upstairs? And he goes, well, I haven't even decided if I'm going to hook up with you yet. So then I said, okay, I get what's happening here. The gender roles have swapped and I'm now the man charming, you know, a hetero gender where I'm the man charming the woman. He's the woman, I'm the man. So I was like, okay, I can do this.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like I'm- So you started fingering him. So I started fingering his asshole. You're like, do you have a Subaru? Let's make this happen. Let's get out there. Let's get across the church. You really just made him uncomfortable by saying we should take this upstairs.
Starting point is 00:28:11 If you were like, want to go get finger banged on top of your Tesla, he'd be like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something about that. But I found the gender swap interesting because it was like, oh, now I have to charm him a little bit and do the work. something about that. want. No, it's true. That is a famous thing about women that we all know. There's a famous thing about women. We can just go out and get it whenever we want it. Okay, so then I say, all right, and I start looking around his apartment and he's got one book and it's a book I have. It's called Creation Stories and I see that he has this book, Creation Stories, and I say, oh, I just got that book. I'm also reading that book. And then he goes.
Starting point is 00:29:05 A classic way to connect with someone. Yes, and he goes, oh, what are the chances? This is a sign. And I was like, cool, if this is it, this is it. So then I'm like, do you wanna go upstairs now? And he was like, I do. And I was like, okay. Wow, what?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Wow. Wow. Wow, that's wild. It's as if he has the kind of emotional intelligence of like a nine-year-old who's just like, well, we like the same book, so now we can go have sex. Right. It felt very childish where I was like, oh, I'm talking to my son. Ew. I was like, oh, I'm talking to my son. Made him my son. So we go upstairs and we have sex and he lasts for like 30 seconds
Starting point is 00:29:55 and he feels bad about it, I can tell, because we're laying on our sides and he's curled up in my neck and he's kind of ashamed and he's like hiding his face. And I go, hey buddy, you know it's okay. No. Hey buddy. Wow, you really have turned him into your son. You said, hey, hey, it's okay buddy. It's okay and he just says I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:30:24 and it was like this weird, I felt, like I said earlier, I think men just want their moms. You know, it's like in that moment, it's like, I'm, I have two sons. The red flag in there is that like, he felt so ashamed about it. Like if that was me in that situation, I would have been like, hell yeah, brother,
Starting point is 00:30:43 I doubled my record. Of course you would. Of course you would. Can turn any negative into positive. We love it. That's great. You turned him into your son for the night. Did you give this guy a third date?
Starting point is 00:31:01 So I asked him out again. I said, hey, if you want. You asked him out. So yes, I said the next day, I said, hey, I don't have my son tonight. If you want to hang out again, I'd love to I'd love to try it again. And he said, No, that moved way too fast for me. Oh, I don't I don't want, I don't want to move that fast. And so I said, okay, no problem.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Wow. And that was it. Not you going from being the prude in this to being that filthy, groping, leering. But I mean, here's, but the thing is, it all makes sense to me if you think of him as like some 14 year old boy. Finally we have to, we simply have to get to the man himself. Written a lot about sex and relationships. sort of made a career out of it.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Danny Jacobs, give us a lowdown, the context. Are you in a relationship currently yourself? Were you a relationship guy in the past? What was your strategy? I am married currently and I have been for quite some time. There was a time prior to that when I was not married. As is the case for most married people, yeah. That's generally the journey and it was for me. And I would say when I was not married, I would date a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I would go on just a few dates with a lot of people. And casting a wide net. Casting a wide but shallow net, which would be my MO. Okay, so where are we at in this story? This is a romantic date that I'm about to tell you guys about, but also not a romantic date. So this is back in, I think 2011. I had a pretty serious girlfriend
Starting point is 00:33:08 at the time and I wanted to introduce her to my dad. And so, the date in question is that date of the three of us, a lunch date between my girlfriend at the time and my father. And now, before I tell you about what happened on this date, I need to give you a little context about my dad as a person, as a human being. So my dad was a lawyer. I'm just going to give you like a smattering of facts to kind of set the scene. So he got disbarred for stealing documents from a federal courthouse. He got fired from the Securities and Exchange Commission for accessing a classified database. When my mom divorced him, she got a phone call from a woman.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I grew up in St. Louis. So she got a phone call from a woman in St. Louis who invited her to a support group that was not composed of people like divorcees, but was composed solely of people who had been sued by my father. They had dozens of members, they had a newsletter, they met regularly. When my dad died. Wait, so wait, quick question.
Starting point is 00:34:20 In what position is he serving on Trump's cabinet now? What do you say based on all of this. He's dead, but I don't know that that would preclude him from being nominated. Given the way things have been going. When he died, my brother and I were looking through his house and we figured out accidentally that if two doors were open to the same angle at the same time, a secret compartment that my dad had built over the bathtub would pop open.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And inside was stolen notary stamps, bank accounts he had opened in my and my brother's name. Oh my God. Oh no. Yeah, so. Okay. You needed to introduce your girlfriend to this man. You're like, oh, check this shit out.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Well, he's my dad, and this is a serious relationship and I and I thought yeah, but Beforehand so we get to this we get to the restaurant parking lot. It's this restaurant called the Boathouse It's like a nice restaurant in st. Louis We're in the parking lot and I give my girlfriend a speech because I'm just like, I gotta prep her for this. And I'm like, here's what you can expect. Here's the most important thing. Don't give him any personal information. Because he might, he will use that in ways
Starting point is 00:35:38 that we cannot even imagine. He might use it to open up a bank account. Oh yeah, anything. No security questions. Don't give him the name of your first pet, the street where you grew up, mother's maiden name. Your mother's name. Don't give him your mother's first name.
Starting point is 00:35:52 He could call her. Yeah. So, and also I want to point out that my girlfriend is from the South and she is also like, so she's, you know, she wants to, she's got that southern genteel thing. She doesn't want to piss anybody off. This is the father of this man that she's dating pretty seriously.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So I but I tried to to be clear about what to expect. So we go in and we start eating and it's going really well. Like my dad is charming and and he's inquisitive, but in a respectful way. And everything is going great. And I'm like, okay, all right, this is going to be all right. And then about 45 minutes in, I'm like, I got it. I just got to pee real quickly. So yeah, it was a, it, in high, look, in hindsight, we can see how that was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Okay. But in the moment I had been lulled into a sense of security by what had been happening. And I thought that my girlfriend was handling herself really well. And I was like, OK, this is going to be fine. So I go to the bathroom and I'm in there for like two minutes. And when I'm coming back from the bathroom, I'm walking towards the table. And I see my dad now has a pen out and
Starting point is 00:37:06 And he's in the middle of going. Okay, so so your birthdate is when and He's like writing down a bunch of information that he had waited to ask and the way and and I found out Subsequently that what like the way he did it was like he was like to my girlfriend. He was like listen first of all, if I can get your phone number, because just in case there's an emergency and I can't get ahold of Danny, can I just, as a way of kind of getting to him,
Starting point is 00:37:33 can I get your phone number? And then her birthday was like, listen, I wanna send you a present on your birthday, is it possible just to get your birthday? So he's writing this stuff down on a napkin. I see this is happening and my heart just drops. I'm like, oh no. So I say, dad, please give me that, give me the napkin.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And he's like, oh, don't be ridiculous. Like it's fine, you're being paranoid. I'm like, dad, give me the napkin. And it just goes back and forth, things escalate. I ended up grabbing, trying to grab the napkin from him. We get into a physical tussle in the restaurant. Oh my God. We, we, I finally, I don't get it from him.
Starting point is 00:38:11 We get back into the car and I just, I weep. I just start just full on weeping in the car. Like it was so traumatic of an experience. We went so south from where I wanted it to go that I just, I couldn't emotionally contain any longer. And then as a quick PS to this, so that night I told my girlfriend, you gotta change your phone number.
Starting point is 00:38:37 We changed her name. Yep, yeah, that's right. Basically going into witness protection. And then when we got on the plane to come back to Los Angeles When I landed there was a phone message from my dad a long phone message saying that Through because of our physical altercation He a had a heart attack and went to the hospital and B Called the sheriff's department and put a warrant out for my arrest for assault.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Now, I wanna just say, none of those things were true. He did not have a heart attack. He also did not put a warrant out for my arrest. But it was still a terrible thing to hear from your dad. Yeah, no, I mean, given everything we know about your father based on your 10-minute story, I figured that those were two lies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I we know about your father based on your 10 minute story. I figured that those were two lies Yeah, yeah, yeah, but um I mean I guess my question is if I was your girlfriend, and I know that she's from the south
Starting point is 00:39:31 Okay, and this probably precluded her from doing this I would simply have lied I would not have given him the correct information And you know maybe she wasn't you know thinking as quick on her feet as we are, but you did prime her. You did, in fact, she did exactly what you told her not to do. It's a very, it's a lot swipes situation. She had one job, don't look back. And now she's a pillar of salt.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I just should defend her for a moment. Like my dad could be very, very charming. And he, and like those first 45 minutes, he, and he looked like just a sweet elderly old man. You know what I mean? Like nothing about the vibe that he was giving off was in concert. Was secret compartment in the bathroom. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Now you said your father passed. Did your wife meet him before he died? Oh yeah, that's a great question. Okay, so well this goes to kind of the things that I've learned, or my takeaways from this experience, which were two. The first was that this experience sort of inspired me to create my own podcast, which I have called
Starting point is 00:40:41 How to Destroy Everything, which is about my, about my narcissistic father and the sort of ripples of destruction that he wrought in his life. I was gonna say he sounds like a narcissist. Yes, oh yes, yeah, a malignant narcissist, probably with borderline personality, things like that.
Starting point is 00:40:57 We explored on the podcast, but the second takeaway from the experience was that I brought this woman to meet my dad. And my whole life, my dad had done things to violate my privacy, things like that. And I had just, I would get mad and I would not talk to him for several months. And then I would forgive him. I would go back and there'd be this cycle. But when I introduced my girlfriend to him, I realized at that moment in that parking lot
Starting point is 00:41:26 that it wasn't just about me anymore and that there was another person here who I cared very deeply about who wasn't prepared for this nor should she have been. And that my girlfriend from this experience became my wife. So. Wow! Whoa! that my girlfriend from this experience became my wife. So. Wow! Whoa!
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, so, but I never spoke to my dad again after that day. So did you marry her specifically to expedite the name change process? You're like, okay, we gotta get this going. Yeah. Bad Dates. Wow, what an episode of Bad Dates. You guys, thank you all so much for joining us.
Starting point is 00:42:07 This was really, really thrilling, a rollercoaster, really, from start to finish. Evie Oddly, where can the people find you if they are looking for you? What are you doing? What would you like to promote? You can find me on social media at oddlyevyvie, or on TikTok at allaboutevie, still yvie.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm here, I'm out here in these streets hawking a book I released this year. It's about me. There's lots more shit stories in it, so. What's the book called? It happens to be called All About Evie. Oh, I love it. Nice.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Perfect, perfect, perfect. Meredith Casey, where can the people find you? What are you doing these days? Oh, you can find me on Instagram at MurderDeathCasey. Um, I'm a very light person, as you can tell by my handle. What am I up to? You can see me do stand-up around. I post about it.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I highly recommend, if you have not seen Meredith Casey do stand-up, you get a run, don't walk. Some of my favorite jokes. Ever. I think I told you the last time that I saw you that some of your jokes about the dentist joke is one of my all-time favorites, I think about it all the time. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:43:27 That means so much to me. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So definitely, if you see her name on a poster, get there immediately. Please come. Please come. Danny Jacobs, where do people find you?
Starting point is 00:43:37 And are you working on anything fun these days? Yeah. So you can find me on Instagram at Danny A Jacobs. And also about town. I've been doing a two man improv show with the groundlings for about 15 years called the understudies. So you can check that out. And then the podcast, which is how to destroy everything, which comes out every week and
Starting point is 00:43:58 is available wherever you get your podcast. And this is specifically about your dad. Yeah, it's about my dad and my own journey in the present sort of like understanding the long-term ramifications of who he was and finding out who he was because there's so much that I didn't know. What a brilliant tie-in to get people to listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:18 I'm certainly downloading now. This story was a perfect amuse-bouche to the wider story. And I have to say, Master of Sex, one of my all-time favorite television shows. Love the show. Yeah, yeah, congrats, congrats, congrats. And if you have a bad date story of your own
Starting point is 00:44:36 that you would like to share with the class, please do not hesitate to email us here at baddatespod at gmail.com. We would love to hear you. It could be a story, it could be advice, to email us here at baddatespod at gmail.com. We would love to hear you. It could be a story, it could be advice, it could be truly anything you want. And get this, I have two, count them,
Starting point is 00:44:54 two SketchFest shows coming your way. The first is a Bad Dates live show at Cobbs Comedy Club on Saturday, January 25th. And then I have my own standup solo show, Rude Little Pig, at the Great American Music Hall on Friday, January 24th. This is gonna be our first Bad Dates live show with me as host, so I'm very, very excited, so excited to do it in San Francisco. Tickets are available for both shows at sfsketchfest.com.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Run, Don't Walk. We have some special guests lined up, but I'm not going to announce them quite yet. dot com, um, run don't walk, uh, we don't have, uh, we have some guests, some special guests lined up, but I'm not going to announce them quite yet. Um, and before we go, one last thing, if you're looking for the perfect gift this holiday season, we have all new types of bad dates, merch, like hats, stickers, t-shirts, hoodies and more. They're super cute.
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