Bad Dates with Jameela Jamil - The Head Of The Deodorant: Scrubs Special! (w/ Ava Bunn, Layla Mohammadi, and Amanda Morrow)

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

On an all-new panel episode, it’s all family as host Joel Kim Booster sits down with three of his co-stars from the new Scrubs reboot, the hilarious Ava Bunn, Layla Mohammadi, and Amanda Morrow to discuss their most iconic dating fiascos, beginning with a very simple icebreaker question: would the panelists date their own Scrubs character? Then, Ava wakes up unaware that she has somebody else riding shotgun, and later gets advice from ballerinas about shaving for The Groundlings, Layla has stars in her eyes but not in the good way, and Amanda needs some help with this toe sandwich situation, bro!   Subscribe to our YouTube Channel for video clips and full episodes.  Merch available at SiriusXMStore.com/BadDates.   Joel Kim Booster: Scrubs Season 10, Psychosexual, Fire Island, Loot Season 3 Ava Bunn: @avamariebunn on socials, monthly show Late Bloomers Layla Mohammadi: @laylamoha on socials, new movie Same Same But Different Amanda Morrow: @amandajmorrow on socials, The Devil Wears Prada 2 coming soon! Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Bad Dates ad-free. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to another edition of the Bad Dates Podcast. I'm your host, Joel Kim Booster, and if you're just joining us for the very first time, Bad Dates is a podcast where we talk about, you guessed it, bad dates. It's right there in the title. And here at my podcast, Bad Dates can mean anything from bad dates to bad marriages to bad hookups. We run the entire spectrum here at the show. And today, I am so excited because, well, it's just family in the room today. It's a very, very special. special episode. When this is airing, the revival of Scrubs will have already premiered to massive, massive acclaim, five seasons renewed for, I'm sure I'm putting that out into the universe now. We just had our premiere last night, but joining me together are three of the stars of the Scrubs revival, three of the brand new interns, the new blood. Joining me is one of last year's new faces at the Just For Laughs Comedy Festival. She has performed in a in full and five-star weekend. It's Ava Bunn, everybody.

Hello, Ava. Woo. Okay. We also have an actress who has appeared in Lioness, the Persian version, and the sex lives of college girls. It's Leila Mohamede.

And last but certainly not least, we welcome an actor and dancer, who you've seen on Lauder SVU, and you will soon see in The Devil Wares Prada 2. It's Amanda Morrow, everybody. Ladies, welcome. Thank you so much for coming today. This is so exciting.

We were just at our premiere last night. It was incredible. Everyone looked amazing. Look up the outfits. For our icebreaker question today, I am going to just ask you a very simple question, which is, would you date your Scrubs character if they were presented? And we're taking sexuality out of this. I don't care.

Bad dates. Ava, would you date Tosh if given the option? No. No. I mean, I know why I wouldn't say that, but why would you not date Tosh? Some of the things she says, I'm like, girl, like, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Why would you not date her? Well, I think it's the TikTok of it all. The TikTok, which, by the way, if you've seen the show, you were aware that in the pilot episode, that is sort of how you are your thing, your game, if you will. But it doesn't last that long. I feel like we sort of let go of it through the series. Yeah, it's like, yeah, she gets less and less TikTokery. I couldn't do, I couldn't do a TikTok gal.

I don't understand it. What's going on on TikTok is none of my business. Yeah. You know, what the kids are doing on there? None of my business. It's none of them. I leave it to them. And to you all, too.

Layla, same question. Would you date your character on Scrubs? No, poor girl. I don't think I would date her. And why is that? She's just a little weird for me. She's a little strange. She talks a lot about things that she doesn't know. But maybe like when she has her little growth moment.

Yes. Well, you see, this is the thing that I guess I like maybe wasn't paying attention at the table reads when it wasn't my turn to speak. But like I knew you more than I understood your character. until I started like watching some of the early cuts and stuff like that. And Layla is such a cool girl. She is like, yeah, the cool girl down. And I didn't, and I just sort of kind of assumed that your character would be cool girl down. But she is in fact quite opposite of cool girl down.

Yeah, yeah. The least cool girl. Which makes you such an amazing actress, I have to say. What a stretch. What a stretch for you, Leila. So too annoying. And you would be too much of an alpha. I think you'd.

I would dominate that. I would dominate her. Which I'm sure, is that, is that, is that like a, is that a reoccurring theme for you in life as well? You know, I think I'm learning it might be. Oh, boy. But like, I'm trying to be. Less of a dummy mommy. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm like trying to back. I'm trying to be like a little sweet girl. Uh-huh. Good luck with that. Yeah. Good luck at that. Yeah, actually.

And Amanda, would you date your character on Scrubs? I, I would want to. Yeah. And then I think I would meet Deshauna and I'd be like, you're so cool. I'd be like, I'm going to look to the right. Or I'm going to look down at the floor. And Amanda, I find you to be so cool as well in real life. But I will say I think Deshauna is like you're sort of the opposite of Layla's problem in that like

DeShana seems very like aggressive almost or like like she's the, she would domino me mom to you. Like Deshauna's going fishing. Yes. Yes, yes. And I'm like, okay, hey girl. She's going in for the kill. She's like, yeah, she's like, yeah, she's a shark in the waters. And I don't see that for you.

You are being approached. I am being approached and I love to, you know, come ask a question. So, Deshauna, if she wants to ever come ask me a question. I would say it's and then I would steal her shoot game. Would you say that she's your type generally or do you have a type? We've talked about this a little bit, but. We have. don't think I just like nice people.

Yeah, I tried to, at the rap party, at the rap party, I was like really drilling her to try and get like a concrete answer on like what she was like. And you were like, because I was like, oh, I was like, I know so many people. Like the options are open for you. You're very open to a lot of different things out in the world. And I was like, but like what do they look like Amanda? And she was like, you know, somebody who's like kind, hearted. And I was like, enough. I love somebody funny.

Amanda. If you can make me laugh, because I like to try to make a lot of people laugh. If you can make me laugh, genuinely belly laugh, okay, well. That's dangerous, though. That's so dangerous. Because, like, I know so many girls in the comedy world who live by that, and boy, oh boy, have they gotten hoodwinked and have loosed. Yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Because they make you laugh and then they're crying in your best. Exactly. It's a front. It's a front. It's a front. Well, we might, I mean, hopefully we'll get to some of what you mean by that, Eva. I want to jump right in. Eva, because you have, you had so many tales of woe that was hard to narrow them down to just what we ended up at, which is two. But before you jump into your story, Ava, I do want to ask the same question that I ask all my guests. which is what is your vibe dating-wise? Are you, you know, are you someone who's a serial dater? Do you always have a man sort of back in call on the back burner? Are you a serial monogamist?

Are you a gal who dates around a lot? What's your vibe? I'm definitely serial monogamous. I would say I like dating one person. I've had like a few boyfriends. And, yeah, I would say that's my vibe. It's kind of an awkward vibe. Adorkable you would say I guess I would say that almost what do you guys think I will say Ava can fall in love with a rock

That's what I've learned about her A rock who's nice A nice rock and it's really sweet and I love it because it's always It's always just she sees the best in people I do see the best in people And you don't have to be specific we won't get specific but was there any at any point in the say four months that we were on set that there was anyone on the crew or cast that piqued your interest that you said that's a nice rock

we... That's a nice... I feel like I can literally drop first and last Oh my God I mean go for it We can bleep it if you want later if you decide but I mean go

Wait okay so basically there was this guy He's like a An AD on the show And We found out that Our favorite movie is both The Cat and the Hat Live action and to find two people who both love...

It's not really bad. And then everyone in the green room was like, wait, okay, you guys need to, like, cover your ears and say your favorite quote from the movie and see if it's the same one. We both said... It's the quote where he's, like, carrying the babysitter in the closet. And he goes, you pay this woman to sit on babies? I'd do it for free. And we both said that. Out of the whole movie, we both said that.

I mean, it's a pretty incredible line. I gotta tell you. Yeah, we were all kind of freaking out about it. And Zach was like, oh, I've never seen a dorky or meet cute. This is perfect. And then I said, surity of a wife. And he was like, I have a girlfriend. Oh, well, not wife, though.

And she works on the set. Oh. Yes. She's a PA. And I meet this queen. And she is the hottest woman I've ever seen. That's tough. But then I go, what if we all?

But then And then I find out We're all going to be in San Francisco at the same time Crazy San Francisco Sketch Fest But nothing ended up happening But I did start a group chat with them And I was attempting

Wow They're so cool That is really I'm like really impressed with you For going for it I mean the thing is You can't meet somebody else Who loves the cat and the hat

Live action film And not go for it a little bit. And I already saw like a sparkle in his eye. I want to know which one it is after the fact. I'll tell you. Yeah, we'll get into it. We'll go as story number one first. But where in your timeline does this story take place?

This story takes place a sophomore year of college. It would have been, yes, second semester sophomore year of college. Okay, wonderful. Where did you go? I went to USC. U.S.C. Okay, so here, a hometown girl. Home town girl. Down at USC.

Studying? Studying acting and screenwriting. Okay. Yes. And it worked. So, yeah, yeah, and here I am. Here I am on the Bad Dates podcast. Yeah, so it was USC.

USC is very work, hard, play hard. And I was playing, and I, should I just go in? Yeah, go for it. Basically one night. So to start it off, when I was on my 20th birthday, there was this guy that I wanted to go on a date with that I had never met before. Explain. So he was like one of my friends' roommates. And I was like, he's so cute.

Okay. So you did, you just hadn't met him, but there was like social media involved pictures. Yeah, social media involved in like seeing him. You saw him in a dream. No, I didn't. I didn't come to you and go, I need this. which I have low-key done that before. That's that different story.

But yeah, I was going to need to go on a date with this guy. So I asked someone for his number. I FaceTimeed him on my birthday. Cold face-old. Yes, yeah. And he picked up. And he picked up. That's like her move, though.

That is my move. She loves a random face-time. Really? I love a cold, if you're getting a cold-face time for me. She's into you. I mean it. So, but yeah, I did the cold face-time, and then he was like, who, I'm, How did you get my number?

How did you find me? How did you find me? Who are you? And I was like, it's my 20th birthday, and I want to go on a date with someone. And I want you to take me on a date. And so then this is different for this, but he did pick me up in his car. We went back to his apartment, sat on opposite ends of the couch and watched an episode of Rick and Morty. Wow.

And then he took me home. The dream. Dream. Wow. But then a few months later, and I don't. do this anymore, I got blackout drunk, blackout. And I, um, at that time, I loved calling people when I was blackout. Okay. That's a classic move. I mean, it's a classic move. It's a classic move. Who amongst us? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you're sitting there like, you know what I know this

person would definitely want right now is like a borderline incoherent version of myself. Right. At 2 a. Right. Right. Of course. He's dying for it. Yeah. So I called him. I don't really remember. remember this. And I woke up in my bed the next morning. And also every, like, he's the tamest, like, most innocent boy ever. And I'm pretty, like, my roommate reported back to me that when he came over, he was, like, had McDonald's in hand and was like, okay. Is she okay? Like, you know, it was just very, like, oh, God. There was safety. There was safety there. It wasn't in a bad situation. Basically, I wake up facing my wall. And then I, what, what I did, typically do when I'm hungover, I, like, grunted and let out a shotgun fart.

Like, fully a... She's only human. And I'm only human. A shotgun, I cannot express to you how loud this fart was. Like, it was, like, cut through pants, you know? I've never heard it described as a shotgun fart before. The most advanced thing I've ever heard. Like, like multiple. And then I, um, and so then I hear... and I hear a gasp from behind me. A gas.

A gasp. And I realize my man's is spooning me from behind. Oh my God. You didn't feel his, the body? Did you feel air coming? Do you didn't feel the impact? Because you can feel the impact. I wish I died.

It was 6 a.m. Scatter shot on his crotch. Well, so that's the worst part is then I turned around. see him and immediately as I'm like oh my god this like what do I do? And I look at him he looks scared and then I go so I just farted on your dick and well

and the thing is is that that's dangerous territory because a hungover fart could very easily you could add an inch into that real quick and that would have been a different kind of story yeah I trusted it in a way where I thought I was alone I didn't think there was anyone behind me

And how did he react in that moment to you? He kind of quickly gathered himself and was like, I think I have to go. And it's six, like the sun is rising. And he quickly left the apartment. You mean he didn't love that? He did. He farted on your dick. And if I want love, they're going to love me farting on that dick.

Exactly. He should be so lucky to have the shotgun fart obliterate his genitals. he should be so lucky yeah he should be so lucky yeah did you ever talk to him again so not for a while that was actually the last interaction for a while and then i think i saw him like my senior year at a party and it was very just like hi yeah yeah um but if he's watching this right now he would know who he is yeah i think that's something you don't forget about no no no no definitely he's unfortunately he's going to be watching scrubs

watch party with his friends and it's literally going to be that Leonardo DiCaprio picture where he's like getting up from the TV or the chair pointing at the TV and he's like it's her I'm telling you what happened that's the one

yeah he's so sweet though to get like a champ well he didn't no yeah because he left he fled to scene with me yeah he should have asked you are you okay do you need anything how do you feel now after that level

You should have asked me if I was okay. Yeah. Got me. Incredible. Quick. I love it. It is the epitome of the kind of story that we love here on the podcast. But where, now take us to the second story.

Where in the timeline does the second story take place? Okay. So the second story, I've been told this story has no ending. It doesn't. It really doesn't. We'll find it together. Yeah, we'll find it together. But basically, so this was, we'll go back a little bit.

My freshman year of college. Oh, my gosh. And even young. younger version. Even younger version. Even less controlled. Even less controlled. Even less controlled.

And basically, I had never been on a real date before. Like I, so this is my first real date that I was going on in college. And this guy wanted to take me to an improv show, of course. Woof. We're going to the groundlings long form on Wednesday. That is tough to hear. One of your first dates ever was a groundling show. Yes.

I mean, but then look at you now. You're a new face. You're on television. I mean, like clearly the love. I will say, so your first date happened when you were like 18, 19 years. I was 19 years. Yes. Okay.

That makes, I mean, the thing is, and this is not a pejorative. I'm not saying this is a pejorative at all. And I say this is my lived experience, by the way. But you do give off a homeschool vibe sometimes. I mean, the cat and a hat of it all. She does. It's like, you weren't out there. you know,

titty fucking in high school. No, I was not titty fucking. I was like, I was not in awe of the titty fuckers. Yeah. No, I was always impressed by those girls. Yeah.

God's bravest warriors. I mean, seriously, they were titty fucking before I got my period. That is crazy. Yeah. So,

and yeah, and I just didn't. And you weren't. Yeah. Yeah. So I went on my first day and I was like, and again,

had never done anything except for like pecked a boy. Like, it just nothing had happened. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to shave my pussy bald for this. So, oh, my God. And this is something you had not previously ever done. I had never done this before. Wow.

Barely shaved above the knee even. And this is how horny the groundlings gets. In the groundlings, that crazy Uncle Joe show will get you going. It will. Incredible plug for the groundlings today. Incredible plug. Yeah. Yeah.

I guess Stephanie Courtney up there. Shout out. How do you approach that if you've never done it before? So that's kind of the thing is I kind of weed whacking it. I'm just absolutely going in. And using conditioner to be the shave cream. I read online. That was good.

You read on. So you got so far as to look at the internet for instructions. Yes. You managed to find. And let me be. clear to the listener at home. Ava is young. Ava was not born yet when Scrubs was originally

premiering on television. This is to give you an idea of this. So when you were in college, the internet was pretty like it had been around for a while. It's been a while. It wasn't like you were having to dig through dead text to find information on how to quote unquote shave your pussy balls.

So like you managed to find like this is like a page five result. Page five results. Yeah. Yeah. It's conditioner. Well, I would watch ballerinas on YouTube be like, this is my cooter shaving routine. You know what I mean? Yeah, we all went to the ballerinas. Totally.

No, we're all right. And so, yeah, basically I do that. Immediate razor bumps. Yes. And I was like, well, I can't have that. And then I went back to the internet. I went back to my studies. Where you had already gotten such incredible advice.

Yes. And it said, put D.O. On the odorant on it in a pinch. And now I turn to you two as the experts here. Is that? I don't, I've not. You haven't heard of that? Well, I can't say I've been exploring.

No. Because there's, that I have to be honest with you, Ava, and I don't want to step on your story here. No, please. Sounds quite painful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And it's also like, like secret powdered, you know, white deodor. And I just. I'm going to town. And I cover it completely. It's shocking. Yeah, but now it's just... Yeah, I was going to say... Yes.

It looks like a sidewalk in the summertime. Yes. Go on. It's giving sidewalk in the summertime. And then I go, oh, if he goes down on me, then he's going to taste my deodorant. Shoot. Seems like the worst, least of your worries at this point.

But I'm freaking out. So instinctually, I lick the deodorant. I lick the head of the... the deodorant because I go instinctually I lick the head of the deodorant what the hell I question your instincts I have to say um yeah yeah because I was like well what did it taste like bad it's deodor try a lick in the head of your try licking the head of deodorant after it's been all over no no no I mean this is the fact that it's Post so bad. It's so bad. And then I was like just gagging from the deodorant and I was in my dorm bathroom. So, you know, communal. And then I just grabbed someone else's mouthwash and then I am

drinking like, you know, and it just was the kind of mouth that was just vodka. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mostly alcohol. Yeah, mostly alcohol. It's like it's giving, I am sneaking this because I am, you know, three months sober, but this is the thing that's around. It's exactly that, and it could have been that. And then, yeah, this is where the story kind of tapers off and nothing interesting happens. I have a clarifying question. So you're in your communal dorm bathroom. This is like a full immersive theatrical experience you're giving to your dorm at this point.

Anyone could have walked in and seen this scene. Anyone could have walked in and seen the, yeah, the whole situation. Yeah, and when the guy showed up, I reeked of alcohol and he was like, are you drunk? No. And then we went to the improv show. He took me home.

Nothing happened. Nothing happened. And did he ever give you indication before the date that the date would have headed this way or were you just? I was, we hadn't even kissed yet. And I was like, yeah,

he's going mouth to my crotch. And I don't know that I need to ask this, but you were a full V at this. Full V. Oh my God, Fulvi. Not even, no one had even been down there. No, no. I had not even shown any. And also I'm the kind of girl we're like at sleepovers. Like, with even other girls.

Like, and they do the whole, we're all girls here. A trap. I won't take my pants off. Like, I am scared. Still to this day. So. Yeah. Can you confirm her?

You haven't seen her pantsless. Well, I've seen her. We, yeah. There were some guys. Those are the close home meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So, Eva, this was harrowing from start to finish both stories. I have to tell you. What is the less, and you can have a separate one for each story. You can sort of have an overall takeaway. But did you learn anything from these experiences that you have brought with you into your dating life today? Yeah. And what's that?

I think, well, one, no. No drinking to that extent. And that's a PSA. But then also, they need to laugh at a fart. Oh, this is an interesting takeaway. I need a laugh at a fart. I agree.

I need someone to laugh at a good old fart. And it was a good one. Yeah. It was shotgun even. And I'm not going to pursue someone if they don't think farts are funny. You know what? I'm really, I'm glad that this was the takeaway.

because I think a lot of women would have walked away from shotgun farting on a manstick and said to them and taken the opposite lesson away in fact and said I need to get the gas under control I need to you know learn how to pull the cheeks apart perhaps and and and silence them add the silencer to the shotgun muffle them in some sort of but you've actually taken the opposite lesson away and said I actually need someone who's going to love me for me love me for me. Exactly. And I will say as someone who's been with someone for a while now married at this point, it is one of those things that it is the sign of true comfort. It is the sign of true comfort when you can know, when you're no longer silencing, when you're not silencing yourself.

Yeah, not silencing yourself. And it is I, like my husband and I will let them rip. I wouldn't say that we find them funny necessarily. There is something intrinsically. absurd about farting that loud in front of someone that you love. But I will say it is a sign of comfort that I could no longer leave the room. I'm not trying to hide it. It's like, it's happening. It's happening. Yeah. Can I ask maybe a weird question? No, no. Please go ahead. Are you guys ever getting creative with it? Are you like pushing them out in a, in a comedically timed way?

As sort of to punctuate a joke almost. Yeah. I guess, you know what? I think I have, I think both of us probably have done this I can't think it's hard to think of a specific moment but like it is fun to do I think mostly you know what I will say we both tend to do this when we're watching to lighten the mood when we're watching something dark you know like

A Midsummer like the body hits the page the body hits the rock and you're sort of like exactly exactly it is adding a little bit of a soundboard it's like a morning radio show soundboard esk instinct, I would say.

So good. Yeah. So yeah, I think that's a really good takeaway, and I think that you know yourself, knowing yourself well enough to know that is really special. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ava Bun, everybody. A real window, a peek

inside the mind of Ava Bunn. Thank you. And it is exactly what I expected that I have to say. From knowing you on set. Bad beats. We turn now to Layla Mohamedi. Layla, same question for Ava. Now, we've had these talks, I think, on set, in fact.

But what is your style when it comes to love and relationships? Are you somebody who seeks out monogamy right away? Or are you dating around? Are you getting out there? What would you say is your approach? I've always been a relationship, girly. This is the longest I've been single. And how long is that?

Like about a year and a half. Okay, so that's not that long, I would say, for a lot of people. And it's so fun. Yeah. But I'm not, like, dating now. I'm just like, I've been so busy with work and stuff, but like. And doesn't it feel good to say? It does feel like that's awesome.

But yeah, that's normally I'm like. So you're jumping from boyfriend to boyfriend. I was. And then I'd be in a relationship for like a long time. It wasn't like a one year. Right, right. It'd be like, I'm with someone for like three to five years. And then I somehow find someone right after that.

That is so much time to invest in a string of people. It's a lot of time. How long? And so how long do you expect this to last for you? It's been about a year and a half. Do you want it to continue to have a reason not to date, or are you looking to open the gates again to the castle? Hmm.

Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. Mm. Mm. Mm.

Mm. Shit. I think like if the right person comes along, then I'd be open to it for sure. But I'm not like actively. You're not chasing right now. I'm not chasing right now. No, I'm just trying to like have fun and enjoy. Enjoy.

Enjoy the success of your show, Scrubs, The Revival on ABC Wednesday nights. Wednesday nights. Yeah. Exactly. And I love that for you. I think you deserve it. Where does your story take place in your timeline? My story takes place like early on.

in high school before I dropped out. Oh, I did not know this about you. Yeah, I hated school. Good, I mean. I hated school. I got my GED and then I went to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't, I hated, like, waking up in the morning.

I would skip every day. I would just, like, I went to high school across from Universal Studios and I would run across the street and go tan at hard rock pool instead of going to class. Oh, my God. The tanning era. Yeah, so good. Huge. And so I love that, like, a lot of kids.

And a lot of kids who take your journey, it's like, I was being bullied. I didn't fit in. In fact, no, you sort of were too cool to go to school. I just hated it. I was like, this is not, I don't want to sit and deal with someone telling me what to do. No, yeah. In a classroom at 7 a.m. or something. It was like early.

No, it is crazy. It is insane. I used to wake up at like 4.45 in the morning to get ready to go to school. Yeah. And it's like, that seems, that's just like how, that's like normal for a lot of people. American high school students. Yeah, and it's, I know. And then like eight, seven, eight hours at school, extracurriculars, you can't leave.

You're locked there. You're locked there. I found ways out. Yeah. You needed to. I would hide in trunk sometimes and they would like drive us out because we had like security at our school. It was like no joke.

I, wow. James Bond over here getting out of school. So this was in the period when you were still at school though. So this was when I was still at school. And there was this guy who was like really cool. He was like very fit. And he would like work out all the time. Is he older than you?

He was older than me. Still, but within the range of high school. Within the range of high school. Okay. Yeah, he went to school with me. And we started texting and he would like text me and be like, what are you up to? And I would lie. He'd be like, what are you doing?

I'm like, I just left the gym. What do you mean? I like fully had my hand like a bag of Hotchito. Yes. Was not at the gym. And so he thought like, oh, she's a fit girl. Like she goes to the gym and she, and I ran. track for a little bit, but I ran the 400.

So it was just like, you know, two times around the track. Right, right, right. I don't know if I was that good. I want to, I don't remember, to be honest. It's running. Is anyone good? No one's good at that. Does anyone care?

I don't know. I feel like he'd be good at it. Running? No. You've seen my running. No, Ava. Well, no, you actually did run a little bit. They taught me how to run.

They taught you how to run. We did. We did. Yeah, we taught me. And can you give us like a quick, like, run down of what the basics of running are? I didn't. Something that's instinctual to most people, I would say. I didn't know that you didn't have to full sprint the whole time when you go for a jog.

Oh. She shows her speed. And it's quite fast. She can go. A long term. Yeah. You were pedal to the metal the entire time. I didn't understand how people could even run a whole mile.

Like, I didn't understand how you can keep running for that long because my, I'm just a little too fast, I guess. She's too fast. She's definitely too fast. So, yeah. So this guy is like, okay, do you want to like hang out? And I was like, yeah, like, let's hang out. And he was like, do you want to come over and go for a run? Oh, no.

And I was like, yeah, totally. So I remember like cosplaying a runner. Like I fully was like in full Nike. Like it was embarrassing almost. And I think I got like dropped off. I don't know if like I feel like my mom dropped me off or something. And I made her take me like a few houses down. Obviously.

And like walked up. And he was like outside stretching, like doing the little, you know. I can't believe y'all were going on running dates in high. High school. That's psycho behavior. This is insane. Why would I agree to this? I don't. Yeah. Let's just like do something normal. But I was like obsessed with him for some reason. So I get there. I start just copying the stretches he's doing. I'm like, yeah, this is what we're going to do.

And he's like, all right, you're ready? And I was like, yeah, let's go. He starts booking it. And it's like. Running like Ava. He's running like Ava bun. And I'm like, what the hell? It was so hot. I love him if we'll do that. And it's like hot outside. It's peak Florida sun. I'm trying to keep up. He's taller. I'm, you know, five, three.

I'm short. She's a petite girl. Podcasting visual medium. Tune in on YouTube to the podcast episodes. If you want to see how petite Lala Mohamedy is. So, he's small, little tall girl. So I'm, like, running behind him and, like, he's, like, he doesn't give a shit that I'm there at this point. Like, he just, I don't know why.

How is this a date? I was going to say, because at that point, he's just training. Yeah. He's training. Training with an audience. And I'm, like, dripping sweat. I feel like I'm like starting to like my breathing is not right. I know something is wrong.

So I'm like hyperventilating. And I start like stopping and I'm like bent over just like trying to catch my breath. A vision, I'm sure. It was really bad. It was really bad. And I'm like seeing stars. He's not, he notices and he's like way far. He's like she's not behind me anymore.

He's just going to lap you at this. Yeah. He's going to he's going to lap me. He turns around, comes up to me. He's like, yeah, yeah. I pass out on the concrete, fully pass out. And I don't know how. long I was out. I remember

opening my eyes and he was like, are you okay? And I was mortified. I'm sweating. I'm dripping sweat on like the sidewalk of some random suburban neighborhood. You're not sleeping beauty, like, well-rested. No, no, no. It was my least cool moment. Cold to the touch.

Cold to the touch. Cold to the touch. Cold to the touch. God. Yeah, and that don't, I never want to go on a date like that again. No. No. And did did you continue running with this man? Never again. Never, no, no, no. Never again. I don't think we, we talked much after that. I think I was so embarrassed. I probably, like, never replied again. Yeah. Oh, so he was reaching out, though. This is,

this is the picture you're painting now. Yeah. He maybe, he wanted to train with a fellow athlete. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't even remember. I just remember going back to his place and leaving very awkwardly. Right. So, he didn't just, like, leave you on the paper. Yeah. And then I dropped that as cool. Yeah. This is why. She actually loved school up until this moment. And then it was so humiliated. She was forced to leave.

Yeah. And you don't know what happened to him. He's just off running to this day. He's probably drafted to like the NFL. He's probably like running somewhere really fast right now. I don't know. Fucking roadrunner over here. What would you say is the lesson that you took away from this experience that you've carried with you on

into these many successful long-term relationships you've now had. Yeah, I never will go on a running date ever again. Physical activity, I mean, now I'm like way more active. I love a hike. I love all that stuff. But I think don't say you're at the gym when you're really eating hot chitos or something. Yeah, I would see, my thing is the lesson is not necessarily don't lie because why would we ever stop doing that? The lesson is to craft the lie in a way that you can, like,

Like don't write, check your mouth, your body can't cash. Yes, exactly. That's the perfect lesson. Yes. Perfect. Layla Mohammedi, everybody. Give it up for her. Another incredible high school tale.

You're all, y'all are so young. These stories are coming from places where I was fully, I think, like a working actor at this point. And you got, you guys were. eating Cheetos and going tanning. Yeah, yeah. Incredible. Yeah, we were born in 2016. Yeah.

I'm actually just born. I'm not four years old. You've only lived through one Trump presidency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't even know. You don't know anything, actually. I don't know.

I love that for you. Bad beats. Last but certainly not least, a man tomorrow, an enigma wrapped in a riddle, covered in cash. Wow.

She, what would you say? In fact, I think we talked about this at the table read at that little dinner. I asked you, I was very curious because you're a beautiful gal and I wanted to know everything about you. But what is your style in the past dating-wise? It's not. I don't have one. I was like the person in high school that like all my friends would come to me for advice. And why is that?

Because I was just so, you know, stoic, like super brown. They would just come ask me questions and then I would turn around and be like, oh, who am I going to prom with? Myself. You couldn't even find a sad little gay boy that you needed a date as well? Not one. I wanted to prom with you. Oh, thank you. I was also like, I was a person that was like in the background.

Like if somebody tried to flirt with me, I'd be like, ah! And so I can't really. And this time too, like when I go with my friends, they're like, hey, you know that person was flirting with you, right? And I was like, what? No, we were just hanging out talking about like X, Y or Z. And they're like, no, they were flirting with you. So I need to get better at being able to see that. Well, where do you think that stems from?

Is it a general, like, is it a, like, is it a you thing or is it a lack of experience thing, would you say? It's probably a me thing. Probably need to call my therapist. You can talk about that a little bit. I think it's a me thing. I also think I was just a very shy kid. Yeah. Like, especially in high school, I was very much like,

People would come up to me and be like, oh my God, your friend's so cool. I'd be like, let me hook it up quick. But if somebody would even look at me with like a sparkle, I'd be like, ah, ha, ha. And I would book it to the other side of the room. You would run similarly. She would be, you could probably run as fast. I could, I might be able to run as fast. But I've definitely been newer.

I've been on a couple dates. It was also a little bit of a late bloomer for sure. I got out of college and I was like, oh, did I glow up a little bit? I was like, oh, okay. I can't even imagine this. woman looking anything but stunning. I know. No, it's insane.

We used to play like phone roulette. Oh, my God. And we'd like each take each other's phones and like go as far back as we can and stop and look at photos of all of us from like the same year. Y'all couldn't play that game with my phone. Let me tell you. Yeah, it's kind of a dangerous game. It's a dangerous game.

My favorite are your bow and arrow pictures. Oh, my. Please explain. Layla did as well we'll start cheerleading when I was younger. And so, you know, when people. were like out, you know, doing, you know, shit with their friends. I was inside stretching and I really wanted to be a flyer. So I spent the entire summer trying to get my hyper extended bone arrow.

If you know what a hyper extended bone arrow is, your leg is up. So you're in like, like if you're doing like a cheerleading pose and you've got your leg in your hand, you take your other hand and you bend over. So you're in kind of like an L shape. And then you pull your arm through. And that was my proudest accomplishment. You were able to do this. I was able to do it.

I have photos. They will drop as the episodes will be able to be. Slowly but shortly. So while the girlies were, you know, learning the gift of gab, I was inside Katness Everdeen ready to be a flyer. And then I got to cheerlein tryouts and I was too tall. So I was not a flyer, but I was all. If only you were as petite as Leila.

I know. She's still, she can still do tricks, though. She can. It's true. Can you do a bow now to this day? Show them your hypercinnitus. Yeah, do it now. Do it now.

In the chair. How did we not get this on the show? Okay. So where in your very limited history does this story take place? So this story takes place a couple of years ago. I started because I was like, okay, I like to, you know, talk to people in person and stuff like that. And my friends were like, get on the ups. Get on the ups.

So I downloaded each and every one of them, Sands Raya. Because she couldn't get on yet. But now. But now. But now. But now. Scrubs Club. I gotta say, I really cannot

like dissuade you from Rai. I mean, I know that you wouldn't now anyways. But Raya is not cute. And it will always try to hook you up with a music producer from, who currently lives in Stockholm. And it's like, why are you even available to me?

Coming into town for two weeks. It's also $25 a month. Insane. I understand that. But what if we all just gather together at the movies or something? No. And it literally, you would just like, it's literally just going to be like you swiping and you'd see Zach Brough.

And like that is the story for you. I don't know that he's, we might have to cut this. I don't know that he's on for sure. But like, energetically, I feel like Zach would be on Raya. And all love. This is, this is all love from all four of us. No, he would. He would be amazing.

There'd be penny photos. Have you seen it? I don't know if this is still the case on Raya. every profile is a MySpace profile because you have to pick a song that plays while you swipe. Yes. It's so weird. I've never been on. And people are getting aesthetic with it.

You'll be like swiping and it's like a tree. And you're like, okay. Why? It's like an insightful. It's like an insider. It's like an indoor. It's a documentary. But if anybody needs a rye stylist, I will take on that job.

I think you'd be good at that. You know what I mean? Side hustle. So you've downloaded all the apps. So I downloaded all the apps. And I was, you know, doing the swiping, whatever. My friends were, like, crafting my profile for me. I was also in school.

So I was in grad school for a very long time, or three years. And it was 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. So it was all day long. And we had, like, a couple, like, 30-minute breaks. We had, like, an hour for lunch, but a lot of it was, like, 45 minutes. You're doing other things. So I was like, you know what? I'm really going to get in my bag right now.

I'm going to be outside. I'm going to hit the streets. I live in New York. I'm young. Let's get crazy. Let's get wild with it. So I match with this person and we set up a date during my lunch break from school. And so I was like, okay, let me just, you know, branch out a little bit.

Get to it too. Exactly. So I go on this date, you know, we go, we get bagels, we're sitting at the park, we're talking to each other. And then this man comes up. And granted, this is one of my first like Washington Square Park dates. I mean, it's beautiful. That's sex in the city. Yes.

You know what I mean? It's a sweet moment. It's warm outside. There's a ton of people. We're sitting down next to each other. The conversation's like, you know, it's going. This man comes up to us and he, you know, he's getting real close. He's chill.

It's all fine. It's chill. I'm from the city. I know what to do. You know, you stand up. You walk. And he just, you know, grabs my little toe in my, in my checkered vans. And he's just holding the toe.

And the person next to me is staring straight. And I was like, hey, bro. You want to come like, I don't know, come help me out a little bit? and he's not nobody's doing anything this man is staring there he's just like you know looking at me i'm sorry we have to back yeah yeah right there's a few things here it feels like we skipped a scene or two so you're sitting in the park this man is approached it is a it is new york so literally he could be a CEO on wall street or he could be unhoused um we don't know at this point and you could never you could never find out um because it's new york um and he has managed to get so close

to you that he has reached out and grabbed your toe in a way that your date is unaware. Completely aware. Must be or must not be because we're sitting down next to each other and then he just kind of like leans forward. Is he touching bare toe? He's touching toe through vans, through checkered van. Oh well thank God for that at least. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah, no wild dog's out. Hard to distinguish a toe in a van actually. You know what I mean? Was he going like on top of shoe on bottom shoe or how was that? It was a sandwich. A sandwich. A sandwich. It was the same. The touching bottom of shoes. Bottom of shoes.

In New York City. In New York City. I had just walked, you know, many things. And my date, you know, didn't, was just continuing to, like, eat their bagel. And I was, like, great. Like, how does it taste? Like, English breakfast? Like, what do you got going on?

I'm sitting here like, okay, I could, like, jump up and move. Or I could just, like, chill and wait from my date to swoop in and help me. And once again, as a test. A test, if you will. I set it all up, really. And so nothing happened. And I kept looking over it. And they would, like, make eye contact with me and, like, look straight again.

and I was like, are you going to help me out in this situation? I have to understand. So you're sitting on a blanket or something like that? I'm sitting on a bench. Oh, you're sitting on a bench? Yeah, so I'm sitting on a bench. And where is the man that's touching your toe at? He's standing right in front of me.

So there's no one you can't see him. He's standing and he's bent over it. And he's just, you know, like, talking. I don't remember what he was saying because I was too fixated on the person next to me and being like, I was on hinge and I match with this person. And now we're eating bagels. And this man is here. And this person is looking straight,

forward. And I was like, can you help me out a little bit? Yeah. That's almost like to New York. It was very much. I'm so unmoved by everything at this point. You know what I mean? That like, that's the person who's on the empty subway car and because of the reason, like

there's a reason that subway car is that. We all know this. But there are some people in New York who are like, fuck it. I'm going to sit down and read a little life alone on this smelly ass subway car and because I'm a New Yorker down. And And that is, but that's too much.

No, it was too, in that moment, it was not, it was not the right New Yorker moment. Because, you know, New Yorkers, everybody's in their head. Everybody does their own thing, which is what I love about the city. But when someone's in need, everybody drops what they're doing. Yes. They help that person. And then they're like, all, all right, let's move on their way. I got a meeting at 1130.

And they're like, keep it pushing. So we were sitting there and this person had helped me. And this man was looking at me and, you know, staring me in my eyes. And, you know, just, you know, having a little toe sandwich. And I was like, I'm from San Francisco. go, I live in New York, like, this is chill, it's okay. And then he ends up leaving. It's not okay.

Not okay. It's not okay. Not okay at all. But I didn't kick him because I was like, I'm just not going to start running right now. Right, no, don't escalate. You know what I mean? Don't escalate. Do not escalate.

And so the person ended up leaving. And then this person next to me starts talking as if we're just on the date again. And I was like, no, the date's over. I have 15 minutes left until I have to go back to class. And 15 minutes of this date was taken up by my toe being. By my toe, my toe sandwich. And I was like, I don't like this anymore. And so I got up and left.

And then they had the nerve to text me that night and say, I would love it if you would come to my basketball game on Sundays. And join my basketball team. What? What part of the date made you think we were going to be on the same basketball team together? That's insane. I don't know. But you were together with the guy who grabbed your toe for many years after that. We actually have several children.

in six couplets. They're all named John. It's beautiful. Now, did this sour you to app dating pretty much moving forward? Or did you try it out a couple of times to see if this was at the norm? Because you don't have a lot of frame of reference at this point. You could believe at this point that your toe is being grabbed on every day you go to in public space. I was like maybe they set it up.

This could be New York. You know, people set up things all the time. No, I was like, the apps aren't for me. And then I tried it again a couple of times. but I just like meeting somebody in person. You know what I mean? A little jazz. A little jazz.

A little jazz. A little jazz. A little jazz. A classic jazz. A jazz, me cute. This scenario is very much like as though you were on like boiling points on MTV, like waiting to see like how far they could push you before you would react. And you just never did so they're like we can't air it.

And I'm also, no, literally. I never did. They were like, what would you do? And I was like, I wouldn't in this situation. I waited. And I was just, well, I was also like, I know what to do in this situation. Then I looked at my right. And I was like, I wonder if you are going to help me.

Because I know how to get myself out of this situation. But do you? Yeah, you were on impractical jokers. You just didn't have no idea. We need to look out for that. It was freaking mur grabbing whatever his name is. I failed in practice. No one will look up, by the way, what their names are.

if you got that right. The fact that you even had a name at the ready is more than anyone in the vicinity of this office park will know. Amanda, so what was your lesson that you took away from this toe groping experience? Many lessons, one of which is, I think I'm the kind of gal that I'd like to meet someone, IRL. And also, maybe I don't ever, you know, maybe this person had something going on in their head. And so maybe it would, maybe. Maybe past trauma. Maybe their toe had been grabbed.

They froze up. But also, the apps just aren't for me. Yeah. And also, I love New York. Yes. Yes. We were talking before really quickly that there's like two scenarios where no one will help you in New York. A, on your date when your toe is being grabbed.

and B, when you were being terrorized by New York teenagers who have just gotten out of school. That is a situation in which no one can help you. No. You just have to simply absorb the abuse from the teenagers because they have so much power. Don't move, don't blink, look down. Exactly, like a T-Fucking Rex.

Exactly. If you have music and stop the music to keep your headphones on. Because, oh my God, the last thing you want them to know about you is your, like, taste in media. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because then they're going to use that against you, even if they like it. Exactly.

Which is insane. Yeah, these teenagers were, they were, I just, I used to live near LaGuardia, and so seeing those teenagers leave LaGuardia, I was like, A, you have always looked cooler than me, which is insane. But also B, you're all vaping at like 13, so I was just afraid. And so I would just be in the background, but I was on the subway. Should I tell the story? Yeah, no, please. I was in the subway, and it was like 8 o'clock in the morning, and I was with my friends, and I had my hair natural, and I was wearing this very orange sweater. And there were like four or five kids from. Brooklyn across from me and my friends. And they set their eyes on us. And they didn't lose their eyes until we got off the train at 14th. So we were in Brooklyn and we were on the train until 14th Street, a Union Square.

And they kept looking at me and they called me, um, the dude from Yo Gabba Gabba and the dude from the Jackson five, the dude being Michael Jackson. And I was sitting there like, fuck. I was like, I just picked out my head this morning. Like these kids are jeweling in my face Like I'm terrified I'm so, it is so funny That it's come full circle

With the youth these days That when I So when Michael Jackson died I was working at a show choir camp Probably with kids around your age And they when Michael Jackson died Like obviously I grew up with like him As the Prince of Pop

And so I was like I knew all the other stuff So my feelings were complicated You know grieving but also like But they Everyone at all the kids at the camp were like, I can't believe that pedophile died. And I was like, that's so sad that you only know him as a pedophile.

And now it's come so far around that they only know him as the dude from Jackson 5. That is so crazy. Who I resembled so much so on the screen. And again, podcasting not a visual medium, please check out the full episode on YouTube to discover that a man tomorrow does not look like Michael Jackson in one, in any way, in any sense of him. Not vibe, not physically. Not vibe. Wait, I also love kids being like, no, the pedophile died and you being like, he's more than that. I told you, it was complicated.

It's complicated. Trust me. Very complicated. No, it's probably for the best of that. That's how they know him. We'll leave it at that. Don't tweet me about this. I have off Twitter, the Russians hacked my account, and I gave it to them.

So never tweet me about this ever. Amanda Maro, thank you so much for this illuminating what it's like to be a young woman in New York in so many ways. This has been so much fun. I'm so glad that you ladies could join me today. Once again, we are all on the revival of Scrubs, which you can check out on Wednesday nights on ABC, Pulu the next day. I believe Disney Plus internationally. So wherever you're listening, you can access that. But really quickly, Ava, where else can the people find you if they're looking for you?

You have some, you do, you perform live a lot as well. You're an incredible character actress. Where can the people find you? I perform at Union Hall and Upright Citizens Brigade doing my show Late Bloomers, usually monthly. I think our next one is first week of April in New York. Okay, drop the at so that people can find information. At Ava Marie Bunn. I love it, love it.

And that's Bun with two ends. with two ends. Layla Mohamedi, where can the people find you? What's next on the horizon for you if people want to check you out? I have a movie that's premiering at South By next month, which is fun called Same, Same But Different. And you could find me at Layla Moha. Love it. Love it. And Amanda Morrow, same question.

Where can the people find you if they're looking for you these days? What's next on the horizon for you? Yes. I am in the Devil Wars Product 2 that comes out May 1st May 1st, 6. You can find me on that screen. You can find me gallivanting around New York and at Amanda J. Maro. Love it. Love it, love it, love it.

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