Bad Dates with Jameela Jamil - The Titular Wendy (w/ Jay Jurden and Adam Rose)

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

On a new episode of Bad Dates, host Joel Kim Booster welcomes comedians Jay Jurden and Adam Rose to discuss their most iconic dating fiascos. Jay had an early experience which ended in an unfortunate embrace, and Adam’s girlfriend picked a helluva time to tell him about her five star Hubert rating. Then, Jay has a final story which boils down to: do your research. Plus: French fries, can we please just tell the truth? Joel Kim Booster: Psychosexual, Fire Island, Loot Season 3Jay Jurden: @jayjurden on socials, stand-up special Yes, Ma’am on HuluAdam Rose: @realadamrose on socials, podcast Small Stupid Stuff Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Bad Dates ad-free. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

bad dates hello hello and welcome to another edition of the bad dates podcast i'm your host joel kim booster and if you're just tuning in to us for the very first time the bad dates podcast well it's right there in the name what this podcast is about it's about bad dates and can be anything from bad dates to bad relationships to bad marriages to bad hookups. We run the entire spectrum here because, quite frankly, I don't have enough dating experience. I'd have no reason to host this podcast if we didn't include hookups. So jumping in to the pod really quickly today, because I'm very excited about our guests today. We have two incredible guests joining us today.

The first one is writer, actor, and comedian who is performed on HBO Comedy Central three times on The Tonight Show has written for The New Yorker and none other than John Stewart and he has his brand new comedy special

coming out on Hulu on November 7th. It's called Yes, ma'am. Please give it up for Jay Jordan. Thank you. Amazing, amazing. And then also joining us, we have a writer and actor with a huge following across YouTube

and social media for his comedy videos. He's also appeared in shows like Mary Happy, Whatever, Ellie's finest, and the Santa Clarita diet, it's Adam Rose. Hello, Adam. Thank you, boys, for joining me today. Thanks for having us. We have established off Mike that we have a bisexual and a straight man with us today and a gay guy.

So we have every, it's the mother-made-in-crone of boys in the studio today. And it's the seating chart is. It really is. It's the spectrum. It's straight to buy to gay. But there is a world where you go straight, you get by, you go gay, you go gay. and then you get so gay, you become crazy again.

You go back. It is really beautiful. Thank God this is a video component to the podcast. And different races? Oh, wow, yeah. We almost got all of them. Oh, my God. Should we start up boys?

We almost got a lot. We should actually, there's a spin-off podcast in the works, I think. I feel like, we've got everything covered here. Yeah, we really do. Almost every single base. No one's canceling this show. No.

And we're all sort of roughly. within the same age, I'm going to guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just like... 60s? 60s. Wow, you've aged incredibly well for a white guy. Salmon sperm. So you guys, before we dive into your stories, I do have a little bit of an icebreaker

question that we ask. We ask these types of questions to all of our guests just to get a little sense of where they're coming from. These questions are created by our panel of experts, dating, and relationship experts, behind the scenes, as well as submitted by fans, if you have a question you'd like me to ask the panel, please email us at baddatespod at gmail.com. We will scour that email inbox for your questions and ask them

at a later date. But today's question is, if you were set up on a blind date, what's the first question you would ask the person setting you up about the person that you're going on a date with? Like what is your, what's the curiosity there that you immediately have to know? Like the most important facts you have to know about this unknown person. Bad dates. Adam. How do they feel about in and out fries? Oh, right.

That tells me, that would tell you a lot. I'll tell you how I feel about them. Bad? Terrible. Okay. Okay, wow, I was really nervous that there was going to be a fight. If she doesn't love them, I'm out. No, I cannot get down with them.

I don't understand. It really speaks to some sort of, um, defect in their character if you like in and out prize. Because you like the secret menu and the burgers and lying about the fries. And lying about the fries. People are lying about the fries. People are lying about the fries. Because guess what? I like

Shake Shakeshack's fries still just so, so. Not great. And I love Shake Shack. Fries are one of those things where I go, tell the truth. Yeah. Tell the bullshit. Because here, in and out, we can all agree. The burgers are fantastic. Yes. So good. But do the fries have to be fantastic

for the burgers to be fantastic? No. They're not even the right color. No. They're the wrong color. Say more. Speak on this. No, I'm just saying like, what's the right color out of? Speak on this white straight man. I'm just saying you want like a five guys fry.

It's got some. I was going to bring up five guys. Wow. I was going to bring up five guys. I want some burnt ones in there. And you know, the crazy thing is about in and how fries is that they in appearance almost look like they could be in the McDonald's Fry family.

And yet, yet. Not even close. Not even close. And I don't think that In-N-Out cares. Because this feedback is not new. No. People have been talking about this for years. And they've changed nothing.

Wendy's changed their fries. They did. Wendy said, you know what? To what end? Well, they wanted us to see the potato skin. And I said, you know what, Dave Thomas? And that little red-haired gal, you tried. I believe her name is Wendy.

Windy. We believe she's the titular Wendy. That's a little red-haired gal. In-and-out doesn't budge for any. anybody. They were like, East Coast, nah, we're good. Yeah. Like, we just won't go there. What, what fast food chain on planet Earth? Because they know

if they went to the East Coast, East Coast people would not put up with that shit. You think so? No. No. Who would be screaming back. They need the laid back. Cali energy. Cook days again. They don't literally. I want them fried hard. I've tried doing that, asking them for it extra fried. Yeah. Yeah, because you can do that.

They just turn into potato sticks. It's like, nothing helps. Nothing helps. I'm going to say something even, I'm going to say something related to this, when people like Chick-fil-A and they say, oh, it's because they have waffle fries, sometimes the waffle fries, based on the cut, they're too soggy for me, too. They're soft. I haven't eaten Chick-fil-A in a very long time, not since this morning. And when I had it this morning, no, but like, serious, like, fries to me, those are, those are

things you have to agree with with someone you're going on a date with. I think so, too. I think so, too. Since we're, there's only two of you really can get into fast food today. This is what the podcast has become. But my thing with Chick-fil-A is, like, I don't actually care if people still want to go to Chick-fil-A. I literally could not think of an issue that is less pressing to me than whether or not an ally to the community is eating at Chick-fil-A still. But let's not pretend, if you are going to eat a Chick-fil-A, let's not pretend that it's because it is so good you have no other choice but to eat at Chick-fil-A and compromise your morals.

Let's just be honest and say that you don't include fast food into your moral calculations. And that's okay. But stop pretending that the food is so good that you actually have to step over your morals to get back into that restaurant and do this big performance about how bad you feel for eating the good chicken. And it's like it's fine. And it's fine for you to eat there. And after we live in a post-P Popeye's chicken sandwich world. Say, let's speak on this.

The Papa's chicken sandwich is so good. I'll let the Popeyes workers disrespect me in a way that you can't imagine. And you really don't, like, that is a universal experience at the Poppies. No one got shot over Chick-fil-A sandwich. People died over Popeyes. I can't. I remember that uproar that happened with those Popeye's chicken sandwiches. They were selling out like crazy.

It was deep pandemic and I would drive upwards of 40 minutes ago. Really? You're kidding. It's that good. It's that good. So you feel the way about the Popeye's chicken sandwich. So, Jay, if I approached you and I said, have I got a guy for you? Yes.

You're going to be so hot for this guy. Okay. What is the first question you're asking me about this guy? Who is their favorite member of the X-Men? Mm. That's also very telling. Yeah. Are there any disqualifying answers?

No, but I learned something about you no matter what. If you say Wolverina, go, oh, you're kind of basic. You're kind of dumb. But you're, but you know, you just know the prompt. If they say Spider-Man, I go, oh, you better be hot. Oh, wow. You're dumb, but you better be hot. That is tough.

What, Adam, do you have an answer to this? For favorite superhero? See, I didn't say favorite superhero. Specifically, specifically, I would go for Magneto because he's Jewish, you know, so I relate. Well, and that's interesting. You should bring that up because my favorite X-Man is also Jewish. Oh, Kitty Pride. Kitty Pride.

Kitty Pride. Shadow Cat. Wait, Katie Pride. Kitty Pride. Shadow Cat. Yes. Intangibility. She faced through things.

She walked through walls. She has a little pet dragon. From Illinois, too. Also from Illinois. How do I not know this? Is it from one of the more recent movies? It becomes like an extremely skilled martial artist. Yeah.

Leads the X-Men. No. No. No, in fact. Okay. So she is from the 70s, but portrayed by Elliot Page in the X-Men films previously. and now rumor has it they might bring Kitty back again for the reboot

because she represents like a team protagonist X-Men used to always have like a plucky teenager who was like this school crazy. Wolverine had to have like a sort of rogue Yes, surrogate daughter basically Rogue, Jubilee, Kitty Pride X-23. X-23.

Yes, there's always a girl that is, that he takes under his work. He's got to save. Yeah. But those, I mean, like if you give me an X-Men, I'll be able to say, oh, okay, I kind of figure out what your deal is. Like if someone says Mystique, I go, oh, we're going to fuck. Yeah.

We're going to, you got wigs. Yeah. You're a shape-shifting. What does Shadow Cat tell me? Shadow Cat tells me that you're not ready to come out yet. Bad dates. Bad dates. Turning now to Jay Jerton.

And Jay, before you dive into your first of two stories today, I did want to get a little bit of background for the listeners on where you're at relationship-wise now. What is your sort of approach to dating or was your approach to dating if you're in a relationship now? Give the listeners a little peek behind that. Well, I'm currently married. I love my husband so much. We are honest. We also are fun, which is gay four open.

Every now and then, you know, because love, love is a song. But every song deserves a remake. Have someone come in and rap a little bit. Then kick him out. I don't know. Bring it a new producer. A feature. A feature.

You know, have some dubstep. I like Tiesta. So we do, we do love and care about each other, but that doesn't stop me from being like, that boy kind of wants to kiss you. Go kiss him.

If we're at the club, doesn't bother you at all. Not at all. Oh, my goodness. No, I got to tell you, Adam. You're outnumbered here because it really doesn't bother me either. Oh, really? Guys, I need this to rub off on me a little bit.

Okay, my husband can, if you want them to. Yeah, apparently. Apparently. Are you paying attention? Yeah. So how long have you been married? We've been married for three years. We've been together for almost 15 years.

And there was a period of other, like, three years we were on and off kind of basically long distance, and I wanted him to enjoy his time in college. He wanted me to enjoy my time in grad school. So we both were like, okay, we'll see each other, and we're very committed, and we're going to be careful. We're also going to have a little fun. And when we moved in New York, when you moved to him, big city, like New York, from Alabama, Mississippi, when you, the first time you go to a true

gay bar, not like a little hole in the wall where you hope they don't kill us again, like an actual gay bar where people are like going full gay, there's a dark room, you do kind of go, I can't rob you of this experience. You go out there and dance with that boy and grounding that boy for a little bit, because I'm about to do the same. It just, and listen, people have different relationships to sex. Yes. That's just a fact. Like, some people see it as like a very precious, very specific thing you only do with your partner. And some people have less precious relationships to it. And that's okay. And it's just about finding the partner that sort aligns with you on that very important thing. Because for me, emotional and emotional fidelity

is way more important to me than physical fidelity. I just don't connect the two. But isn't that the fear that what starts as a physical infidelity turns into an emotional one? But the thing is, is that can happen if you're monogamous, too. Sure. Like, if someone's going to be unfaithful to you in the parameters that you have set up, they're going to be unfaithful to you no matter what parameters you've set up. That's fair. Someone's going to be eating in fries.

Yeah, somebody will be eating in fries. There we go. We're back on. I think part of the straight fear is with men specifically, it's not the fear that someone is going to cheat. It's the fear, and tell me if I'm wrong, it's the fear that that person is going to cuckold you, so they'll get pregnant. you'll raise a child that's not yours

and you essentially, in kind of the early modern structure that we're in, you're going to be giving some other guy your stuff. If marriage is just how stuff is passed down, a lot of men's fears like, oh, I'm raising someone else's son, someone else's child is getting my stuff. I think the more generalized fear is that they'll find

someone better and then leave you. That's what I think it is more too. Yeah, I'm not really worried about like, oh my God, I'm going to raise someone else's kid. But I see so many people who get worried about that shit. But they have DNA tests now. You know, you'd find out real quick. Where in your timeline does this story take place?

This is high school. Wow. This is before, this is like first girlfriend, high school, first time that I could go over to, like, a girl's house, and we could watch a movie on the couch. And I want to point out for the listenership, too, because we talked about it in the mini episode that we did together. But you are bisexual. Yes, yes, yes, notoriously. Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm like dating this girl. She's a cheerleader. We're in high school. You know whenever you'd go over to like a girl's house. and the mom would be like, okay, I'm going to be in the other room. Y'all watch a movie, and we'd watch a movie. Watch five minutes a movie. We're making out.

We're making out. We're dry-humping consistently. I want to say there was an 80% hit rate on this. Whenever we made out and dry humped a little bit, I would cream my jeans. Whoa. I was orgasming at a rate that was, I mean, yeah, 80% of the time I'll be like, I'm going to come. That's so crazy. With no contact?

I mean, with dry-humping. Friction. But no direct, no, like. No, no, no, no. I mean, well, because the fear was like the mom would come back in. It's so easy to be like, we weren't doing anything. But once buttons and belts get involved, you're in trouble. Yeah.

But oh, my dear, I watch the beginning of Transformers so much. God. Never got through that movie. Never got through. I still think the Decepticons are good. Right? They're the good guys. Bumblebee is a cart.

No, so I would, like, go over, we'd make out, and, like, every now and then, I would, like, we'd, like, kids, and I'd dry hump, and then I would come. But then one time, that happened. Did she know that you were coming, by the way? Oh, good question. I mean, like, if she looked at my face, if she saw me wince. Yeah, yeah. So, one time I remember I, you know, I came in my jeans, and then her mom came back, and I had to hug her mom going by. Yeah, I was leaving.

She was like, well, give me a hug. I was like, okay. You're just hiding her right here. Denim is a thick material. Well, yeah, at the time, a lot of Hollister, I think it was Hollister. And then Buckle at the time was also popular. You're really putting us in a place in time now. Yeah, yeah, early 2000s.

So, yeah, those jeans, we had to watch those twice. Yeah, it was fun. I had a good time. And, I mean, looking back on it, she, I think she's got like a couple of kids now. And, you know, I used the protection I could at the time, which was denim. Denham. The largest denim condom.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But are you still worried one of those kids might be yours? You know, now that I have this much success, I have a fear. I have a fear. She's going to be asking for that opportunity to just. So this sounds like, honestly, does not sound like a bad date yet. No, but the bad part was like having the hug. the mom afterwards. The good part

was getting to come and like, you know, sorry, she did not come. I want everyone know. She was not coming in that. Yeah. I mean, that was, that felt implied. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But lots of dry hopping on that couch. My God. What would you say, did you learn anything from these early experiences, dry

humping and coming into your big gene condom? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That you sort of took with you on into your dating period after that. Literally and figuratively, I learned Jay. Take your time. Jay, take a little bit of time. Relax, breathe, okay?

Maybe take a break every now and then. That's what I learned. Now, obviously, our penis's sensitivity changes over time as we begin to have sex. Have either of you creamed your pants as an adult post losing her virginity? I don't think I ever did it pre-losing my virginity. I mean, if it was going to happen, it would likely happen then. Have you guys had wet dreams? Like, that's never happened to me.

Back in the day. Never. What? Never. Are you sure you just... Sometimes it's hard to know. There was a clown. Oh.

But I will say I have creamed my pants as an adult. Whoa! Post having a lot of sex. Whoa, really? Post having sex. Oh, post having sex in life. Post having sex in life. I've definitely like been brought to Climax without ever bringing it out.

Whoa. From dry humping, from like over the pants hands. stuff. Okay. If I'm really turned on, like, if it's like a, and there has to be a lot of other sort of contextual things happening, like a lot of verbal, a lot of like, you know, setting the scene in other ways. And you have to come in sort of primed and ready. It's got to feel sexy. The whole thing's got to feel sexy. Exactly. I haven't, I haven't done that. I have had moments have you ever had one of those moments sexually where things are going great and you try to tell the person who you're having sex, but you go, hey, listen, things are going so great, you need to stop,

because I will come. And they go, I don't, they go, I don't believe you, I go, I'm telling you, it's like, so, you know. When someone tells you they're about to come, believe it. Yeah, please, please, because you're down there and I go, unless you got goggles on, just relax, stop, or else, I think so many people do go, oh, I'm about to come, and they don't mean it. If I say it, I hate that.

I mean it. I hate that. They're liars. Don't get my hopes out. They're liars. Yeah. Yeah, no, I've never said that. about really meaning it.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I have also, like, honestly, like, there's never been a point in my time having sex where someone has said that at a time, within a time frame that I didn't want it to happen. Yeah. Like, usually when someone's gotten to the point of saying, I'm going to come if you keep going. Yeah. I'm like, okay, then I'll keep going.

Right. You know, like, I don't need to believer the point. That's usually the signal to keep doing what you're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, unless you, I mean, but sometimes you want to be like, no, no, no, let's slow it down. Let's slow it down. But see, the thing is, is at that point, it's not your decision, it's mine.

Oh, wow. Okay. I'm going to make sure that we wrap this up. I don't have the time, okay? Got stuff to do. I don't have a podcast to record. I don't need marathon sex sessions for the most part. I just don't.

I think it's like a cool 20 minutes of actual, like, penetrative sex. Yeah. obviously 40 to an hour of zips-z-z-up foreplay beforehand. And we're back to in and out. Exactly. Bad dates. Bad dates. Adam, same question as Jay.

Where are you at relationship-wise these days? What is your general sort of theory when it comes to dating otherwise? I have a girlfriend. Congrats. Thank you. How long have you guys been together? We've been together for almost a couple of years. Okay.

Hell yeah. I was married before that. Oh, wow. For, not to her, to someone else. Okay. And me and her were together for 12 years. Oh. Together for seven and then, or like, you know, a couple for seven and then married for five years.

Wow. Yeah. And so what you just described to me as a person who's about to get. married is so terrifying to hear about because that is a long investment in a person was it amicable was dramatic was it

okay it was I mean there were moments of of drama for sure yeah but no it was it was amicable it was like it was what was the best decision for both of us and do when when you were dating before that or were you

were you a player were you a serial monogamist were you somebody who jumped from from girl to girl before your your marriage and now to your long relationship? That's a good. I mean, it was, I was pretty young when I met my ex. I was 23. Yeah. And I had moved to L.A. when I was 18.

So, yeah, I mean, I probably spent those five years just sleeping with most of Los Angeles. See? I saw you the way I knew that was going to be the answer because he asked and you went, well, you know. I um there were there were a couple girlfriends within that time that lasted you know a few months and um when post-divorce pre-meeting your current girlfriend i imagine you missed apps in a in a big way i did yeah never been on any of the apps you've never so even post-divorce even before you got together with this this current girlfriend you never you never dipped your toe no because my my current girlfriend is someone that i actually met like before I knew my ex because I was friends with her sister. I was good friends with her sister before her sister moved away. Interesting. And what was how long was the gap between

signing the papers and and rekindling it with this person from your past? Well we were separated for a while and the papers take it's forever. It's just a, I don't know the exact time but you know it was like six months. And you never felt like hinge is calling or field. is calling or any of these things in that time? It's weird. I don't know, maybe you guys experiences too. Like, I felt a little trepidacious doing something like that

when you are like a person who's online. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Joel's talked about this. Joel says, Joel has famously said, you're too orgy famous now. You're too famous for the order. No, I mean, listen, I still go. But it is uncomfortable. It is like, it definitely is a thing. And my

whole thing is, is like, people on apps you're like the cops. If you know who I am, you have to tell me legally. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is I don't want to play that game of if they know, like, and inevitably, they're going to know more about me than I will know about them because more is available for them to know. Yeah. And I don't like that kind of, uh, well, and it's such a, it's such a tricky thing too, because we don't live in a monoculture anymore. No one's really famous in the same way that they, they once were. And so when you're sort of at our level, it is

such a crapshoot of like you may know who I am and I'll know a lot about me or you may have no fucking idea. You may have never seen my face before. And it's such a lose-lose because you ask, if you are brave enough to ask the question. Right. Or suss out like, do you know who

I am? It's either yes and so suddenly you're not turned on anymore. Or it's no and now you are the guy who asked, do you know what? Now you're insulted. Exactly. And that don't know who I am. And that person is going to go. Huh?

Ugh. Yeah. Actually. It's an egg for sure. And because people will know you from different things. There are people who go, oh, I love that episode

of Jimenez. I go, that's it. Okay. That's what you know me? Okay. Hell yeah. They go, nothing else. I go, great.

Nothing else. Yeah, it's usually jeopardy for me. Oh, that's a good one. I'll take it. That means people think you're smart. Yeah. So, Adam, where in your timeline does your story take place?

honestly same yeah uh yeah and we're going school we're going way back because like i said it's been a long time since i was like dating you know um but uh so yeah i'm in high school is my first girlfriend um it was the the person i lost my virginity well whoa yeah that eventually i made it to that you did eventually yeah we went you guys progressed past the dry hump and went hotel Went the whole way. Hotel on prom night. That is so cliche. Listen, I'm an all-American boy.

Yeah, I love it. Yeah. I love it. It was so fast. Oh, my goodness. Did you guys have it planned? Like, this is going to happen this night? Her friend got the hotel rooms because her friend was dating a guy who had been held back.

And he was old enough to have connections to get us hotel rooms. So he made it, like four different couples got hotel rooms because this guy should not have been dating children. But. Wow. that's how it worked out um do if you does your story involve the losing of the virginity was it no was it was it was it pretty traditional for you as well yeah the yeah it was just sort of finished basement at her house in her room locked door sort of locked door you know as locked as a teenager's yeah um yeah the fear of the parent and her her her mom was a uh a pastor or what someone of religion

and that's hot that's hot when you're fucking the pastor kid that is well there's a term for that as a as a chosen person yeah as a chosen person fucking the christian pastor's daughter what whoa and she's like no i'm just looking at the old testament that's it he was part in your red sea yeah yeah um uh look at that scroll so i was totally in love with her and she uh got this job to be an opair in france whoa for the summer wow and i'm like cool and They were letting teenage girls do that? Oh, yeah. It was sort of like maybe a swap or something like that.

I don't know. Like, I don't really know exactly how it worked. Wait, so we got a French teen to do what? Maybe. I don't really know exactly how it worked. She got some job out there. Is it still in high school or this is right? It's in high school.

Like, towards the end of high school, you know, we're like 16, 17, something like that. We don't need to get hung up on that detail, although I was. So she's in France and we're talking every other day and we're sending each other postcards and I'm missing her a lot and she comes back from France and she's like come over to my house and I'm like yeah and I get all done up and I get the ex body spray and just douse myself and I go to her house say hi to the pastor and then we go into her room and we're like making out things are getting hot and heavy we start having sex and she starts crying oh no and i'm like what's going like mid-coid and i just want to i want to clarify really quickly at in straight

culture that's a bad thing that's bad right okay that's universally okay that for everybody every all cultures it's rarely tears of joy yeah it's happened sure some people they stand by the climax. The crime acts. They do. So she starts crying and I'm like, why are you crying? And she goes, I fell in love with someone else. Oh no. And the thing is, it's like, you don't go to Paris as a 17 year old and not do that. And I'm like, well, that would have been great information before we started having sex. Or after. Yeah. Let's not forget after. After is an option. That's why I come in the jeans. Don't even get to that. I didn't even get to that. I didn't even get. to that and she goes his name is ubert and i'm like i don't want to know his name she was an

opair who fell in love with an ubert ubeer with uber lazy writing is that where they got that idea for the ride chair probably who's named after him how many stars yeah zero from me um so uh you know we break up and then she brings him to America to visit and we were in the same drama program in New York right and we had all we were in the same friend group and she

convinced our teachers to let her bring him to school to school to school what year is this how old is he he's I think over I don't remember I think he was over 18 yeah he was over 18 he's evil and he's coming into school

and then she you know goes to my guy friend she's like hey me and the girl are going to be going to do something else. Like, can you hang out with Ubert? Absolutely. Yes. And so I had a choice and it was like, do I go hang out by myself or do I go hang out with my friends in Ubert?

And so I went and hung out with my friends in Ubert and let me tell you, I bought that guy lunch. I was so nice to him that he ended up going back to my ex and being like, your friends are great, but man, that Adam guy is just so awesome. He did not know who I was. Oh, my God. He did not know who I, he didn't know that we had that history. Yeah.

Zadaddam. He's, oh, kind. He is fantastic. Huge hog on, too, I hear. He showed me his dog for some. Yeah. He was huge. It was huge.

I'm nervous. I mean, that's French. He was crazy. What is a lesson that you took away from your bad date story situation that you have now brought with you into your current dating life? That's a good question. I think probably if your girlfriend asked you if she should be an au pair in France, say no.

And I actually think that is a pretty universal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's like the percentage of operas that do end up having sex when they're in France? Like, it's got to be astronomical. It's got to be at least 130%.

Yeah. Right. No, if you're a 17-year-old girl who even desires to be an auper in Paris, you know that's where you're losing your virginity. Girl or guy, I feel like, any of us. Yeah. Any of us. And if you've already lost your virginity, you're losing a different kind of virginity over there.

You're doing some, some sexual milestone is happening in Paris. Yeah. Bad dates. Bad dates. Diving back in now, with Jay Jordan, you have a second story for us. Where in the timeline does this second story take place? Okay, we've gone to the. future a little bit. I'm in college now.

Okay. Not a freshman. I think I'm a junior. This is before I've met my husband. I'm going on some dates. I finally have come out as bye. I'm going on dates with boys. I had a crazy boyfriend, but then before before, like, I met my husband and after that crazy boyfriend, I went on this

date with a guy who was gorgeous. He was so, he was so cute, but also like, so just charming and we got along. And then we like went out. We go to, like, we go to eat, we have fun, and then we go

back to, like, his car, and we start making out in the car. And then... Was he also in school? Yeah, he was in school, and he was, like, very adamant. He was like, oh, we should hang out until, like, he was hitting on me. And I loved it. It was because when you come out of this queer, you do kind of go, attention. Yeah.

Oh! Because men are horny. Right. You get more attention from men than you do. Not... Or at least the horniness manifests in a much different way. In a much more direct. way. And so we're like making out in his car. And I just something was bugging me a little bit.

And I went, oh, like, what's your last name again? His last name is my mom's maiden name. Oh, my God. And we're in Mississippi. Oh. So at this point, I'm like, and so my mom's last name, my mom's maiden name, it was spelled with one L. and I think his had two.

So I was like... Well, you're in the clear. No, because, like, I think his family is also from the same area that my grandmother's, like, family moved from in Mississippi. So we're kissing. And I still haven't looked up, truly, I still haven't, like, looked too far into it.

But I was like, I don't know if we can keep doing this because we might be like... And this is pre-23 in me. Yeah. It's like, when I'm at Ole Miss making out with this boy, and I go, we might be cousins. And some people are like, Oh, Jay, where the odds.

He was, like, a very handsome, charming black boy in Mississippi from the same place as my mom's family in Mississippi. I was like, that's why I liked him so much. I'm a narcissist. Yeah, you have similar features to me. I was like, what are you doing? And he's, I mean, he's still gorgeous. He's still hot. This is how hot he is.

He's one of those boys that Tadrick Hall would parade around for a little bit. So he's hot. That means nothing to Adam. I know who Tadric Hall. Oh, you do. He's straight. That's who is. Never mind.

But that was a moment I was like, am I possibly kissing my distant, but still cousin? And it just didn't work out after that. I cannot continue to say this on this podcast. I know what you're going to say. They all know what's coming. Everybody in the booth is lowering their eyes.

They do not want to hear it again. But I will say one of my most cancelable takes is gay people should be allowed to do incest. They just should Lateral incest Certainly when there's a power imbalance There's things that make that wrong But like two distant cousins

Lateral incest Lateral incest That's where you two distant cousins There's no children That's gonna be Brought about because of this Oh okay You've never

You don't have a familial relationship We don't He's true He's so far distant That you didn't even know He existed Until he was in your mouth Yeah we were kissing

And you're telling me that's wrong. We were kissing a lot. We were kissing cousins. Yeah. Quite frankly, you've already done it. You've crossed the Rubicon at this point. And now you're just going to deny yourself a climax because what's the difference between coming and making out with your cousin? Is there a functional difference at the end of the day?

Yeah. If I would have come, I wouldn't be telling this story. Really? Yeah, because I'd be like, I'm not going to tell you all that. Yeah. I'd actually be like, absolutely not. That's where you draw the line. The fact that I stopped myself, I'm like, I'm proud of me.

Look at me. So you never went on another date with this person, I'm assuming. No, never, never, never. He's been very complimentary. He's been very happy for whatever. Does he know why you stopped dating him? No, he probably doesn't know, but now if he lives. Did you tell your mom?

No, I'm telling y'all. I've told some close friends, but this is breaking news. Wow. Yeah. Does your mom listen to this podcast? Well, she will now. I'll send her this. Yeah, yeah.

you've kissed your cousin okay well allegedly what is the lesson your publicist is loving this decision to take you on right now distant cousin you're you've kissed your alleged distant cousin what is the lesson

that you've internalized and taken with you now into your very successful marriage I think the lesson is you know do your research do your research yeah yeah 23 and me ask questions before you start kissing get the DNA sample before you get the DNA sample before you get you

Get the DNA sample. There we go. There we go. Okay. Yeah. Just, you know, be more inquisitive. Ask more first-day questions. Well, why?

Don't you start kissing folks. When did the last name actually come into play? Because wouldn't you stop it immediately if you were that afraid? Ooh. It was like, he started talking about being from that part of Mississippi. And I was like, okay. I know. But like, it just was bothering me.

And I don't think I was really paying that much attention. I was like, that is my. my mom's maiden name. He does have my eyes. Yeah. I was like, we're just two really cute black guys close to the same complexion. We both smile a lot.

We're both laughing. You're right. I'm so funny. You're right. I am funny. Oh, my God. I see myself in you in ways I couldn't imagine. And little did I know. Well, but now I could get a kidney, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You better, at least, because it's an indictment on your kissing if you didn't. if you don't get a kidney from this person eventually. Bad dates. You guys, that's been the pod, but before you go, Adam, please let the people know where they can find you and what you're doing these days. Oh, they can find me at Real Adam Rose

on all the platforms, and then I just launched my podcast with Brian Eggold called Small Stupid Stuff. Amazing. Didn't even get that in the credits. Small stupid stuff, when does it come out? Where can people look for it? You can look for it on all the platforms, YouTube, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts.

And it's really just, we have celebrity guests on, and we talk about different topics, like which way to turn the toilet paper and like... So, very... The fries conversation that we had. Very much so. Oh, that's a marriage thing for you. Yeah, so...

It was almost kind of like a secret plug for my podcast when I brought that out. It was a perfect little backdoor pilot, yeah, into the kind of discussions that you can find on... Small stupid stuff. Small stupid stuff. My favorite kind of stupid stuff is the small stuff. Jay Jordan, I've sang your praises already.

They know about Yes, ma'am, on Hulu, November 7th, as well as your other credits. But where can the people find you? You can find me on all social media platforms just at Jay Jordan, Jury, J-A-Y, J-U-R-D-N, just my name. I'm still on Twitter. I'm sorry. Wow, a holdout. But guess what? Every now on that, I post bulge on there.

Oh, okay. That makes up for it. I mean, that's the only reason I still Twitter, you're on X. Don't do that. I'm just telling you. Don't, we're not. Hey, you're the one who's on it.

I don't honor it. You're the one who's Twitter. Don't dead name the social platform that you are addicted to, my phone. You mean the one that we can't type the word cisgender on? Don't dead name the app where you can't say the word six. You're the one. You're the one who's still post and bulge on it, my friend.

And Instagram and I'm on tour right now. They're all bad. Let's be honest. Yeah, the tour is called nothing special because it's nothing from the specials. It's a different hour. So you can get the hour at home and the hour on the road. You hear that? That's fantastic.

Follow him at Jay Jordan to get tour dates. I cannot recommend seeing him live in person enough. So, so funny and inspiration. Also, speaking of so, so funny and an inspiration, this podcast is now coming to an end. But if you liked what you heard, please give us a rating and review wherever you're listening to this. It does help people find the podcast. And boy, don't you want to share this experience with others?

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