Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - 105: Chabady Horror, with ?????

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by a survivor of Chabad mob intimidation and violence to talk the dissonance of antisemitism czars, Australian zionist watersports fanatics, and absolution for the groogrux ...king himself: Dave Matthews.Use promo code MOSTMORAL at CBDistillery.com for 25% off your purchase.  Specific product availability depends on individual state regulations.Please donate to the Medical Aid for Palestinians: https://www.map.org.uk/Subscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87OzNLA78UH82MI55Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-hasbara-the-worlds-most-moral-podcast/id1721813926Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:22 White pasta for us. Zabrahamas. Hasvara suss. Mirabha and Tunaiden and Hosh Galden to Bad Hasbara. The world's most multilingual podcast. What the hell was that? That was Turkish. Hey.
Starting point is 00:00:46 You're with immaculate pronunciation, I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm positive. Shout out to any Turkish listeners who want to yell at me. my name is matt lebe i will be your most moral co-host for this podcast a delight i'm daniel matte the other the other guy most moral co-host i wish i was lounging on an ottoman yeah it would be nice it would be nice uh thank you to everyone who uh is listening currently and in the past and in the future uh and shout out to producer adam levin always
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Starting point is 00:02:09 Not last week because it was my birthday I'm 40 now Happy birthday Welcome to your 40s I love being 40 It's great because I feel young again It's like I'm a young guy I'm only 40
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Starting point is 00:03:03 blah blah blah you know what to do uh if you are listening to this now uh it's too late for you to come to cobs it already happened uh as of this recording it hasn't but i assume that uh we sold it out and that, you know, Mr. Stephen Spielberg was there. And he said, you know what, guys, it's time for you to make an Avengers movie. So it went really well. Thank you, everyone who came out. I'm certain that it was fun. And in which case, this is the last episode of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Yeah, that's right. Because you'll neither have time nor the need. That's, yeah, that's true. That's true. And nor the interest. And plus, your politics are going to have to. seriously change if you're going to make it in that record. Oh, yeah. A producer isn't going to even have to
Starting point is 00:03:51 like Rachel Ziegler me. Like, you know, as soon as they cast me as, you know, I don't know, when they're going to remake the Robin Hood, but with foxes and stuff, when they cast me as Friar Tuck, who I believe was a mole, and look through my tweets.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'll be like, oh, that's fine. Delete them all. Delete them all. Mark Platt stand down. You don't need to get in that private jet. It's all good. It's all good. You don't have to tell me twice to drop everything I've ever believed in in order to... Stay home and parent your 35-year-old boys. Exactly. Make sure they're good.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yes. Although, did we give Ben Platt enough credit for retweeting Rachel Zegler and being like he was proud of her or something like that? Oh, yeah, that's right. He did do that. So I will say, you know, at the very least, shout out to one of the plats for being like, hey guys we look like a bunch of fucking assholes here yeah let's not let's not do this also i watched dear evan yeah for your for your rewatch podcast yeah and um you know he's a great singer and that's what matters he's a great great singer the movie aging through a window
Starting point is 00:05:08 yeah it is uh you know it's a strange one um okay so today's sponsor uh is today's episode is brought to you by MAP, MAP, Medical Aid for Palestinians. Medical aid for Palestinians works for the health and dignity of Palestinians living under occupation and as refugees. If you would like to donate and we strongly encourage you to do so, go to map.org.org. And do it now. That's map.org.org.uk. Do it. We need you to do it because it's very, I mean, It's a good use of your money as opposed to, you know, joining our Patreon, which is an okay use of your money. Or in addition to. Or in addition.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Depends how much money you have. Yeah. Let's start with the people who really need it. That's right. That's right. Daniel, what's the spin? A few new albums on the shelves. Oh, is the Uncut Gem soundtrack?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. Adam Sandler with the bleeding nose. I recently rewatched the movie. It's so good. It's great. It's very hard to watch. I feel like I need a massage every time I watch it.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Yeah, it's upsetting in the best way. You'll know exactly why I chose this one, Matt. Oh, beautiful. That's Mr. Morale. Yeah, sing it with me. Take off the poop poop. Yeah, yeah. Take off the peepee.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Take off the cucka. Take off the womp-womp. Take off the do-do. What is that? Take off the shot. Take off the Shasha, take off the, foo-hoo. Is that, is that, uh, N95? N-95.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I, I re-listened to this album, uh, on my recent road trip through, uh, like, Montana and stuff. It's a tough listen. Uh, it, of all these albums, like, it, I'm really glad he made it and he needed to make it. And there's some amazing content on it. Yes. But it's, ooh, it's a lot. Anyway. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Uh, this one, Zarface, which is, uh, Inpecta Deck and 7L and Esoteric's side project, um, I'm, um, I'm, I chose it because I saw something that made me laugh so hard. Apparently Trump has an anti-Semitism czar. He has a czar for anti- Yeah, so like, you know, you think, you know, drugs czar, policies are, like it's become a term in American politics to call people czars. It does not work for Jews. An anti-Semitism, I wish they would spell it T-S-A-R.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, the anti-Semitism, Tsar, you know? Yeah. The Tsar, if you don't know, was the, you know, the king of Russia who basically was ordered, who ordered the pogroms. Yes, and ordered the displacement too, you know. It's like, it's the end of Fiddler on the roof where the czar ends up, like, moving all of them away from Anatefka. And at the very beginning of Fiddler on the roof. Yeah, keep the Tsar, far away from us.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Exactly. Rabbi, is there a blessing for the Tsar? Of course, may God bless and keep the Tsar far away from us. Yes. Um, another soundtrack, Harold and Maude. You ever seen this from the 70s about a young teenage boy who has a sexual relationship with a 70 year old woman? I've never actually seen it. I've only heard it referenced in other movies. I think it's something about Mary references. It was the first like I ever heard of it. It's great. And it's a very, uh, and it's a very, evens did the album. Yeah. If you want to sing out, sing out is like very, very heavily, um, featured in it.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I did not know that. Yeah, it's a cute movie. And then finally, an album that surprised me that I got it, but I recently listened to a podcast about this singer, and I kind of, I realized I actually like her, even though I'm not supposed to generationally. Okay. And that is Rie Reh, Rih, Rihanna, Auntie.
Starting point is 00:08:58 This is the album that has work on it. Oh, that's a great song. It is. I wish Drake wasn't so heavily featured on it. But it's a cool album, and like that's the album, the last album she made back in 2016, and it's apparently where she just let her creative juices flow and it's some really cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:13 That's the last Rihanna album? She made, I think, eight albums in 10 years and then she hasn't made another album since then. She had her imperial phase and she's made, you know, she's doing fashion and perfume and all that kind of stuff. Good for her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I like, she did a cover of a Tame Impala song. Oh. And it is, it's like, it made me, rethink Tame and Paula because like I'd listen to other Tame and Paula songs it's like they're fun but you know it's kind of like I don't know it's like what if MGMT was like you know consistent that's what it felt like
Starting point is 00:09:49 or what if George Harrison and one TAMNpala album Elephant sounded like every beetle sequence to me right yeah and I mean which was like fine but then when I listened to her version of it you know what is this song
Starting point is 00:10:08 anyways it was so good that i started listening to more tame and paula and i was oh nice very good her her feature with on kendrick lamar's damn album is great oh yeah yeah that's song of loyalty loyalty loyalty loyalty tell me who you're loyal to yeah tell me hello too um anyway so that's a couple of guys in their 40s talking about rihanna yes apologies for that also apology for this too uh i am if you know you're watching this you're watching this you're noticing that I'm not in my usual studio setup and that I have a tape around my microphone because shit just snapped off. And so yeah, but I got it working. So, you know, it looks good. This is, this is going to be an interesting podcast, not only because I am away from home, but also because
Starting point is 00:10:58 my stepdaughter, sorry, my stepdaughter, my daughter and my, and my wife are set to come home from the park really soon and I'm at my mother-in-law's house. So at some point, I'm just going to be shushing them from off camera. So it's going to be a lot of fun and I'm very excited to do it. I hope you guys enjoy all the technical difficulty. I'm still getting over the sudden and very strangely timed revolution that she's your stepdaughter. I know. I know. I was trying to Mr. Morale and the big, Mr. Morale and the big stepdaughters. Yeah. To be fair, she, uh, you know, she looks.
Starting point is 00:11:40 She's a big girl, but she doesn't look anything like me. As Adam Sandler said in Uncut Jams, I disagree. Uh, I think she does look a lot like you. Yeah. But if there's technical difficulties, then, you know, I'll just be playing. It's just one of those days. So that'll happen. That'll happen every time there's technical difficulty.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Daniel, that's what's spinning. But here's what isn't. spinning. Tell me what isn't spinning. You'll never find this on the spin, but now I'm wondering if I, if I need to, if I need to rethink my position on a particular group that I have no records of. I used to have their CDs back in the day, but then it just became untenable to continue to like them. Who is it? It's the Dave Matthews band. Oh, shit. You know, like back in the early days of the Dave Matthews band, like they were kind of quirky and cool and I went and saw them concert after their first album, maybe their second album, and definitely, like, technically
Starting point is 00:12:35 proficient, but then, like, the worst, most boring people in the world became their core fan base. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of turned me off to them as well, was that it was the fan base was strange, I guess, you know? Like, it was, it's kind of like, not frat bros necessarily, but like certainly um more put together than fish fans that's kind of how it felt buttoned down fish fans yes buttoned down fish fans yeah yeah uh which is i can't think of anything less enticing to me yeah but and and you know and then they became sort of a running joke with that incident that happened over the what was the the the ohio river oh it's the poohubububub us when they let the contents of their commode
Starting point is 00:13:25 overfloweth. Overfloweth. But then they had to go and do this. Oh, look at this. If you are listening, this is Dave Matthews at one of his many concerts, holding up two signs. One says stop killing children, and the other says stop the genocide, which is, this is not the first time. that I think we have played or showed a little bit of Dave Matthews content on this. And like he also had a video where he was early on.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I think this was still 2023 where he was like almost like crying about what was going on in Gaza. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, wait a second. Do I love Dave Matthews now? Yeah. And this is, I mean, this just adds to it. This is very cool. We have nothing much to say about it. but Adam made a fun little bumper. This is for a little bit of an apology.
Starting point is 00:14:27 What would you say? Poo-poo bus forgiven for good politics. Thank you, Adam, for making that. Truly, very cool. Dave Matthews, you know what? Maybe I'll listen to more than the space between us and crash. He wakes up in their morning. See, it's the voice.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Says we shouldn't be bombing those children. He should change the lyrics to his songs. She'd made parody songs. But yeah, I don't know. I never, it was his voice that always kind of like, it was not for me. I also saw this. What is this?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Dave Matthews apology for him. Oh, yeah. Someone made this on Twitter. Oh. Reason for behavior. I pretended to care about the Chicago River for clout. I've never seen Dave Matthews band live. They are quite good live.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I forgot he's the one good South African Good white South African White South African yeah I didn't recognize game I didn't carefully listen to the lyrics of Don't drink the water That's pretty funny Don't drink the water
Starting point is 00:15:33 And Mercury was in retrograde I don't know Your apology needs to be as loud As your disrespect was Yeah I honestly I kind of agree with that I pledge to not disrespect Dave Matthews
Starting point is 00:15:47 Nor his fan base anymore especially if they're going to ride with him on this anti-Zionist journey. That's what I say. Absolutely. Love him. All right. It is time to introduce our guest. We have a special guest.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Very special guest this week. Yes. You know, we've been at this podcasting game for close to a year and a half now. And I think it's the dream of every intrepid, serious news program, as we are, as you guys know us to be. hard-hitting journalists. You come here for news. Hitting the pavement, you know, real, what is it,
Starting point is 00:16:26 sole leather, leather. I was trying to think of it. It's not gum shoe. Shoal leather, yeah, shoe leather guys. Gum on the bottom of our shoes, reporters. From reporting. From reporting. But, and you do this for years with, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:43 just for the love of the work and out of a commitment to your craft. And every now and then, it may happen in the life of a journalist if they stick at it, that they'll get a scoop. That's right. You know, that a source will come to them, you know, whether it's deep throat on the Watergate thing or Ed Snowden contacting Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitris of being like, I've got this NSA drop. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that's what's happened for us here this week. And we have someone who is actually outing herself, at least in part.
Starting point is 00:17:13 we're not she's going to remain nameless because the the the I mean for very good reasons some of you may have may recall a couple of weeks ago there was an incident a crown heights affair you might say where Ben Gavir yeah Bernstein and Bernstein that's us that's right no wood words here oh I'm half woodward on my mother's side so technically I'm not full Bernstein patrilineal yeah that's right patrilineal journalism yeah Ben Gavere showed up in Crown Heights Brooklyn
Starting point is 00:17:52 and there were some protesters and there was some you know some shenanigans with some of the some of the locals that's right some of the locals but their local color
Starting point is 00:18:03 dressed all in black and white and there was some scuffling and some whatever and there was someone caught up in that who was wearing was pictured wearing a kaffia as we're going to see and all and the Zionists accounts were all like we got her you know terrorist fafo which I don't even know what that means but we're about to find out and then she herself went on Instagram
Starting point is 00:18:33 and said the funniest part of all of this is they don't even know I'm Jewish with an Israeli passport that's right that's right so that's who we're talking to today right she will remain nameless, but we're going to call her and welcome her now to Bad Hasbara. Welcome, Ms. Fafo. Hey. Hello. Oh, my gosh. Thank you for that. Thank you for that introduction. Wow. I'm going to cry. Yeah, yeah. We like to really, we like to make the intros as long as possible so that we can just, just so we can kill time. And that's all the time we have. Thanks for coming on, Ms. Fatho. But you reached out to us. I did. I did. It was pretty funny, too.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Yeah. Why did you reach out to us? I mean, I wanted to share my story and just, I think it does crack the Zionist narrative that everything they do is for Jewish safety. I think I kind of threatened that based on what happened two and a half, no, one, no, one and a half weeks ago. So, you know, I just figured I'd reach out to everyone and see who would share my story. Well, it's amazing that you thought of us. And first and foremost, of course, sorry for what happened. We got the name, Mrs. Fafo, Miss, fuck around and find out. That's what it means.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Because that's what all of these psychopaths were tweeting after you were ganged up on by a mob of psychopathic chabadniks, I believe. who clearly have been around a lot of young women before. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're really comfortable and don't have anything pent up regarding the presence of just normal women in their midst. They don't see gender. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:29 They're woke, woke chabadniks. So first let's get a little background. I'm sorry, go ahead. This is terrible. This probably shouldn't be said. But if you switch two letters in, Lubavich, you know what you get? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Love a bitch. Oh, I love it. I love it. It's terrible. That was great. No, we all appreciated it. We loved it. You switched the letters.
Starting point is 00:20:52 You have a fun time. So, Miss Fafo, do you listen to this show? I do listen to it. Okay, so you know what you were about. Yeah, I do listen. It's how I decompress. That or I just watch more horrible things. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Those are the two options. This is how I cope. Yes. So I'm interested in sort of the story of what happened that night because there's a lot of there's a lot of confusion around everything that happened. It was in sort of a weekend in which we had a bunch of different actions happening. I know that there was a protest at Yale, I believe, because I think Ben Gavir was supposed to. to be going there. But this is, all of the different, like, actions that were happening seemed to be Ben-Gavir-related. Now, were you in one of these actions and then kind of like got
Starting point is 00:21:59 separated from the group, or what happened? Yeah. So, I mean, I, from the beginning, I was inspired by the Yale. I think they succeeded. They did much better than we did in New York. I would say that. But I was inspired by them and then I saw videos earlier in the day of Ben Veer just like walking around and people heckling him. And I was like, oh, I want to do that. I was prepared. He is hecklable. Yeah. Yeah, I was preparing all day. I didn't get to heckle him. He wasn't there. We found out there was like a small call to go to Khabad headquarters and protest him. Sure. He wasn't there when I arrived, but there were like, it was autonomous.
Starting point is 00:22:42 We weren't with a group. And how many of you were there? I would say like 30 to 40 at most. And there were probably like a thousand of them. In the mob, there were probably, it was probably, I think people were saying, I think they were saying 20 to 1. Some of the comments were like, why didn't you fight back? And it's like, because we were going to be killed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Like we, this was not safe. There were a lot of children there, which was shocking. They were like flashing those like illegal strobe lights at us. They were throwing eggs at us in this egg shortage. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't believe they would do that. They seen the price of eggs.
Starting point is 00:23:29 unbelievable that they would do that. That they would throw eggs at us. Yes, they were throwing eggs, bottles. What else were they throwing? The boxes. I think I got hit with a box of cookies. Like they came prepared with eggs? They had groceries, like, ready to go.
Starting point is 00:23:46 They got a DoorDash order. They went shopping and they were like, this is how we're doing it. Or was it just that they were swinging the chicken over their heads, which, you know, is that ritual that they do. And the eggs were just flying out of the chicken. that's one way you want to make an omelet you got to swing a few chickens we we all got here with eggs that was yeah but actually the worst part i think was the the trance music they love so much hearing that that was that was the worst part of the whole thing worse than going to the hospital and having eMS calls that was the worst part how about we back up though and talk a little bit
Starting point is 00:24:21 about your background just in terms of how you got to that protest and what is a nice Jewish, Israeli girl like you, doing in a place like that, not on the side of those poor, besieged, victimized, unsafe in New York Jews. Yeah. So who are you? Where do you come from? And how much is Qatar paying you? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Stop. My mom asked me that all the time. I come from. I know. She asked us to ask. We promised her we would. Do you know her? um you might um she okay yeah anyway besides besides besides my mother um i come from a very
Starting point is 00:25:05 zionist family um where my father is um born and raised in israel my mom uh i don't care my mom kind of had a fetish for like a brown jew so that's how they came to be um he's uh he's uh he's iranian and Yemenite. And yeah, my family is really right-wing. They would have been, if they knew about the 30 of us going there, they probably would have been there to throw an egg at me too. They would have been throwing eggs at you. God damn.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah, yeah. But I was raised here. I lived there for three years and that was really like a big part of my own learning. You lived in Israel. I did. I did live there for. When was that? I got back in 20.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Oh, I got back kind of recently. I got back in like 2020. I was kind of trapped there. I was like, how do I get out of here now? Sure, sure. Was it before or after October? Oh, it was before. I'm, yeah, that would have been really scary to be there after the fact.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And yeah, so I got back in 2023 to start grad school. And I've been organizing, like, on my campus for Palestine. And that's really what I've been doing. And I don't really consider myself Israeli. pictures that got out were my own personal private commentary on what was going on. And I do have a passport, but she's expired. And honestly, I don't really know where she is right now. I don't really want to know. But it's interesting. I mean, you know, because it is the part of the narrative that, you know, quickly got pushed out of the media coverage regarding, you know, everything
Starting point is 00:26:51 that happened. It was just kind of like, oh, you know, we got this, you know, know, student, Hamas, terrorist, blah, blah, blah, trying to destroy, you know, the safety of the Jews. And in doing so, of course, they could not admit that. I mean, it's not only are you Jewish, because, of course, there are, you know, a lot of, you know, Jewish people, Jewish anti-Zionists and Jewish students who are, you know, leading a lot of these, like, these actions against Israel, but also the fact that you lived in Israel and have an Israeli passport, I mean, these are things that make it very inconvenient for the narrative that every Jew is being victimized by every, you know, Gentile when it is, you know, just Jew on Jew crime is happening, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:42 I'm sure it's also the case that the fact that your part Mizrahi contributes to the fact that they can't tell of course the difference between you and an Arab because, well, Iran is not, Iran is not an Arab country, but you know what I'm saying? Well, Yemen is. I mean, Yemen is. That's right. Yeah. We're the, we're like the original, original Arabs back.
Starting point is 00:28:00 That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One thing is that like my family, they'll be like, we're not Arabs. We're Jews from Yemen. And I'm like, have you seen a map ever? Have you ever seen a map?
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's the Arab Peninsula. Yeah. What's the name of this peninsula? Yeah. And have you ever asked what, what language are my grandparents or great grandparents spoke? No, it's, I mean, it's full of contradictions because we know. Like, it was, one of my favorite stories is that my grandparents, they only came,
Starting point is 00:28:29 my grandfather only came to the United States once to visit me when I was born, and he went to, like, the bodegas, and he was talking to everyone. He was having the time of his life. I'm like, that's a beautiful story, but they're destroying it with everything, with all the propaganda. Yeah. Yeah. So you, uh, so you were, you were there for.
Starting point is 00:28:51 a few years. Were you studying there? No, I was working at this horrible place. It was horrible. It was like unrelated to, I wasn't like a, I wasn't doing Hasbara or anything. Never got into that actually.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Never mind. I was very critical of Israel growing up. It just took a minute to put everything together. How did your criticisms meet the reality? Like when you got there, you already had an impression of it, probably a sense that your family was in a cult, then you get there.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Was it the same as you expected, worse than you expected? Can you tell us about your impressions of it when you arrived and what that was like as an American having grown up here? I think it was worse. I mean, it was a really lonely experience. It took me three years to just find community there. Like, I found the like 25 leftist, like anti-Zionist Israelis there and it took three years to find them.
Starting point is 00:29:48 That's all of them. Half of them have probably been on this show. Right, right. Most of them have, most of them have been on the show for sure. And that was, yeah, I mean, it was upsetting. My family is like so, right, like all my cousins, they're my age. They're so, I mean, they love Benjamin. They're huge fans. They love Bibi?
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, I don't like to call him Bibi because it's like a marketing thing. Yeah, yeah, of course. Benjamin just sounds cuter. Take off the Bibi. Take off the Bibi. Eat all the caca. And then it's just Benny. you know. Benji, they probably call them as a kid. So you, when you went there, you were, you know, critical of Zionism and whatnot, were, I mean, so coming back pre-October 7th and then having that
Starting point is 00:30:40 happened, had you organized before, or was it like, was October 7th and this, you know, genocide, was this the radicalizing moment where you were doing actions or had you previously participated in organizing? Yeah, great question. When I was in
Starting point is 00:31:05 the Zionist entity, you know, they had the flag parades every Saturday every day, yeah. I think they were Saturday. I didn't know about that. No, yeah. They had no. There are flag parades. Yeah, they were, they were
Starting point is 00:31:18 anti-Benjamin protest that I just called us. I called them flag parades because that was kind of the vibe. But there would be a small little block and like they're not so radical but you know they were the radical block. And I'd watch like most of them were older which was a little
Starting point is 00:31:34 sad. It's like the propaganda got so good that there were like no young people critiquing the government fully. But they were like they were the only ones who would hold like a Palestinian flag. So that's how I started getting into. it. Oh, so interesting. You were, you were, you were radicalized in Israel. A little bit, yeah. Wow. By by people old enough to remember the merits party. Right. Wow. Yeah, they were like old
Starting point is 00:32:01 people. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so yeah, that's where it, yeah, I mean, I got to see, I mean, I just got to see like, regular life and I was like, this sucks. Like, this is not, this is not enjoyable. I don't understand how anyone could live here as I'm like living there. Well, were you, um, Did you go to the West Bank at any point where you, no, you didn't. No, I didn't have to. I didn't need to be that. I didn't need to see anything to be radicalized. I think just being present there in everyday life and just like the way Palestinians were ignored just was, wow, it was shocking.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And then I was like, well, this is it. I hate it here. It also helped that I'm really not a nationalist, never have been in the United States. Yeah, yeah. Why would I be a nationalist anywhere else? Right, yeah. And at what point did your family start realizing, hmm, the indoctrination is not taking hold? Like the body is rejecting the transplant.
Starting point is 00:33:02 October 8th. Yeah, that'll do it. Roughly October 8th. I think I had posted, I mean, we didn't know. No one knew what was happening, right? I was just posting eye on Palestine. It was like a bunch of kids on like a military. vehicle. I look a tank. It looks so cool. I was posting all of those. My cousins were like,
Starting point is 00:33:22 my friends were killed. And I was like, oh, well, I don't know. I was like, sorry. I'm like, don't go to a rave next to Gaza. Saying that while also being, you know, like just coming back from the country, I mean, you know, it definitely says something about the experience of being there and being radicalized where you know it's i i feel like one of the you know things you see a lot uh especially with the more like liberal zionist tinged you know sort of criticism is um the uh the way in which any connection to the land that anyone would have it's like listen if you know any jew you know that every jew and one form or another is connected to israel whether it's by cousins you know, friends, a birthright trip you went on, you know, a vacation.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And so, therefore, you know, there's this sort of thing where it's like, well, then it's justified for anyone who is Jewish, everyone who is Jewish, to be like, you know, very sensitive to the idea of anyone in any way, recontextualizing October 7th to be like, well, you know, was Is this something that existed in a vacuum, or is this something that was building up that you've been warned about by anti-Zionists, by pro-Palestinian people and Palestinians for, you know, decades? And so it's like, it's interesting to, you know, you just came from there. You have this connection.
Starting point is 00:35:05 You've got family there and whatnot. October 7th happens. And you see it, I think, as clear-eyed as anyone else sees it, which is just like, you know, it is weird that you had a quote peace rave next to a concentration camp next to the you know the most densely populated densely populated landmass in the entire world like that's yeah it's almost it's it's almost like the entire country uh how would i put this found out after a long time of um you know fucking around yeah i mean right so in a sense, you know, if you're, if you're Miss, if you're miss, if you're Miss Fafo, they're Mr. Fafo, you know, that's, but yeah, that is. So October, October. Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv hyphen Fafo.
Starting point is 00:36:02 That's kind of that's, yeah, that's, that's what happened. When I used to, when I used to like walk around there, I'd always tell my friends who I was with, I'm like, if something ever happens to me. Just like, if anything, don't let them use my story. Like, yeah, Zionism. Like I understood the consequences of living here And I think that's just something like people just can't comprehend A lot of people can't comprehend Yeah It's the consequence of being on stolen land No they love to use that Like what would happen how would you feel
Starting point is 00:36:30 If your mother and sister were this or your father was this And I'm like Well I would be very I would be very devastated and heartbroken And I would have a lot of mourning to do I would be dismayed would be disgusted with all of you fuckers trying to twist
Starting point is 00:36:48 the meaning of their death and I would curse the Jewish state until my dying breath until the day I died yeah for creating the conditions in which people who shouldn't be targeted are and end up
Starting point is 00:37:05 you know paying for for the Jewish state's crimes and also I would you know I'd also be mad about the fact that, you know, Israel's main
Starting point is 00:37:17 pitch, main selling point is it's the only safe place for Jews. Then I would be super pissed about, I'd be like, uh, refund, please. Like, you know, like, actually the first thing I would do after the Shiva, like, one star review
Starting point is 00:37:34 on Yelp. I'd be on the, maybe even during Shiva, I'd be on the phone with the customer service design, it's customer service complete. Hello, I ordered a safety. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I ordered one safety, and it's busted. You're doing it while doing the mourners, Kaddish. Yikadalvi Kaddash.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Hello? Yeah, I'm still here. Yeah. So I want to ask also about the decision to go to Israel. Had you been to Israel before you'd lived there for three years? Yeah, I'd gone there in the summers growing up. And I have, like, pictures I, like, never wanted to leave. I was always so sad to go.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Right, right, of course. Which all those memories have been kind of destroyed. Tainted? Yeah. They're not good memories anymore. But I don't, I went because I wanted to have a closer relationship with my family, which I think I did do until October 8th. Sure, for. And then that was gone.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Everything I worked for, gone. Yeah. Yeah. Is that an Aleph on your wrist? it is yes what does this stand for um anti-zionist
Starting point is 00:38:49 yeah very good let's go yeah yeah no identifying markers here you are miss FAFO until her name starts with a vowel
Starting point is 00:38:59 yeah miss Fafo just want to go it's proud boys that's a proud boy slogan why they don't see the
Starting point is 00:39:11 there's no connection between well they don't care they don't I mean you know these are explicitly right wing psychopaths and I think you're seeing this a lot more um sort of like you know I think in the first uh year or so of the genocide uh there was the voices that you would see were primarily liberal Zionists I would say like people who would never explicitly be
Starting point is 00:39:41 you know I'm a MAGA guy who's a Zionist I mean they existed but it was I would say the Hezbarra was very liberal coded very Democrat coded
Starting point is 00:39:54 and it's funny now you know as soon as you know Trump becomes president now it's like you've got these guys like Eval Jacoby or whatever the fuck this like psychopathic Yale student I believe Yeah, he's the guy who went to Congress
Starting point is 00:40:09 It's like, I don't feel safe Right, right, right He wrote about me too actually Yes, yeah, he's written about you And these are all like, these are all Magachud Zionists, you know And so yeah, now that They have
Starting point is 00:40:23 You know, closer access To the, you know, levers of this like fascist power People who are going to Get people deported for attending a march and stuff they don't hesitate to use the same right-wing language and talking points.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I mean, they're all just doing alt-right, mega, white supremacist, you know, language, but applying it to, you know, Palestinians and saying it doesn't apply to Jews, you know? And, you know, good luck, good luck with that bedfellow. I'm sure it'll work out great for the Jews. but yeah so you you came back uh and october 7th and then october 8th that's when um you know you sat your family down and said mom dad i have something to tell you um i came out you came out as uh anti zionist i mean i i assume before then you were uh your parents knew you as an anti zionist or just they just knew you as moody
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did it happen? Yeah. I mean, they knew. They always knew. I think they just ignored it. I don't know. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I do. Yeah, I do. Are they not quite where you are? We are not in the same place. That is for sure. Yeah, they just, I don't know. My parents just say they, I don't really know how to explain what happened with them. But they knew.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I think they did. I used to talk about it with my mom before October 7th, but I think she was just not listening to me. I think she was just nodding her head. She just thought it was a phase. So as someone then who was, you know, family, it sounds like almost unanimously, you know, are mad at you for all of this.
Starting point is 00:42:23 What was their reaction to you being jumped by these Khabadniks? Like, have they reached? out or were they like see what happens or what um it wasn't great um it wasn't a great response but i will say that they tried to they tried to justify it i guess they said that they saw a video of me hitting a jew i asked for evidence i'd love to see the evidence if anyone wants to share that please do but that was um that was the video and they tried to justify it like I deserved it, I guess. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:03 That's kind of where we fell off. I mean, it was pretty funny. My mom was pretty fun. The thing she said, my mom has this thing where she loves to call me a sheep. And then she goes, bah, bah, it means like I'm following the herd. So that was mentioned. I mean, that's pretty rough. So this is, you know, a picture of you.
Starting point is 00:43:23 You've got the kaffia on and your face is covered in blood. how did that happen how did that happen right so it was this is like they just they got i don't know what happened but i don't know what happened no i do um i was looking for my friend in the crowd um at that point we had all decided that we were going to leave we were like this is really unsafe we have to get out of here we asked the police actually if we could like cross the street of um eastern parkway and they said no i don't know why i wasn't the person to ask But they made us walk down Eastern Parkway. Apparently for like 20 minutes, I obviously didn't make it.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And for those who don't know, Eastern Parkway is a very, very wide boulevard separated by like a median in the middle where there's like bike paths and stuff, you know, but there's just like tons of cars going in either direction. So yeah, so they had us like walking down. And then I was looking for my friend. We found each other. a moment of like tranquility it was really nice um and then all of a sudden something hit me in the head my friend goes did you get hit with an egg and i just looked there and i was like mm-mm not an egg
Starting point is 00:44:42 and then i started feeling the blood rushing down my face and we were calling for help what was amazing though is that um all the protesters like really like they they were like really responsive they were quick. I got distracted for a second. They formed like a barrier around me. So like everyone around me was a protester. And then there was a nurse and a first aid kit. And they were able to like at least clean my face and like figure out where I was bleeding from. And then another protester called EMS, even though like the police weren't there. I don't know why they didn't call. And then actually one thing that someone pointed out to me later on was that I walked to the ambulance, like the picture, there's a picture of me with water on my pants.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Right, yes. That was to clean the blood off my face because it looked worse than that. Yeah. I had to walk to the ambulance. Like, they wouldn't come to me, which is kind of not what they're supposed to do. Was it Shabbat? You're not allowed to drive to a woman injured by Jews. on Shabbat yesterday.
Starting point is 00:45:55 All of New York gets. It's a new Eric Adams rule. No, it was a Thursday. They were good. There's no excuse. No, so they didn't, no, they didn't come to me. I had to walk through like the mob. That's when like my picture was being taken.
Starting point is 00:46:09 A little child screamed, you can stop faking it. At me. Baby's first words. Yeah. I think so. Oh, God. It was, yeah, it was shocking. We didn't really expect all that.
Starting point is 00:46:24 We didn't expect that vibe. Well, we just didn't consider it because other protests have been not like that. Like we've been, violence has come mostly from the police. And this was kind of one of the first times is where like the violence was by the bystanders. And you were not the only recipient of this violence. There's a, I don't know if we have the video, but there's another woman who got caught up in this. She didn't even go to the pro. I mean, you at least went with some intention of.
Starting point is 00:46:54 confronting this, this woman lives in the neighborhood and was, here we are from the Associated Press. I went outside to see what was going on. I saw that there had been a protest that was over, but there were still hundreds of Orthodox Jewish men, mostly men in the streets and the sidewalks. And there were a few neighbors, including myself, standing on the sidewalk, just observing. When people began filming near me, I pulled my scarf up over my face because I didn't want to be on camera. And as soon as I did this, a douche woman began screaming at me, and just a group of, like, a hundred men came over immediately and encircled me.
Starting point is 00:47:47 They threatened to rape me. They were hurling just vile insults at me. I moved closer to the police than I already was, and they did nothing to intervene. I tried to leave, and a single officer attempted to escort me at home, but this mob followed us. They grew a number. They were screaming at me, go back to Palestine.
Starting point is 00:48:15 They were shouting death to Erez. They kicked me in the back multiple times. They spat on me, they threw objects at my head, they threw a trash can and a traffic cone at me, and I was just terrified. There's nothing more I can say except that I felt just sheer terror. I mean, it's insane watching this footage. I imagine for you living it, you know, in obviously, you know, a different source. scenario, but the same scenario, I mean, it's got to be rough to see. For sure. I think I've only watched that video maybe once. And one thing I did notice is like,
Starting point is 00:49:02 why does that, one thing new that I noticed was why does he have all those zip ties? I feel like those were still for us, like still for the pro-Palestine protesters. Yeah, what stands out to me about that video is the cop being like, there's very little like, you guys need to back the fuck up. Yeah. It's more like, okay, where are we going here? I think the turn is over here. No, just, it's okay. Just a few more blocks. Yeah, it's like looking at a Google map going like, I barely get any service here. Yeah, he's just, he's just walking. I don't know. It was weird. I don't know what backup ever called. I'm not sure. Were you escorted in the same way as that video, were you, um, uh, was it just one cop escorting you down? Um, or were you alone? I don't even think that was a cop in the picture with me.
Starting point is 00:49:49 me. Yeah, yeah. I think, I don't even think she's a cop. Um, let's see. There was, what do we have here? There's some kind of badge on her shoulder. It is a badge, but I feel like she's like a panic or something. Or maybe private security. Yeah, possibly. I mean, the, you, uh, so just you're walking with your friend, you get hit with something on the head and start bleeding profusely, pouring water in your head to try to get the blood off of your, your face. Um, and I think we have sort of the aftermath, um, here. You start posting about it, uh, at some point. It is like, yeah, here it is right here. Yeah. I mean, you know, obviously you, you, so it was a cut to the, to your scalp. Is that what, what happened? Um, it was a small cut like right here. Um, it's, it's almost healed. Um, I'll have a Harry Potter-like scar and yeah um EMS said I still looked hot and all right I love that it was my private story I'm not the person who shared these um oh interesting so someone else someone I think thought
Starting point is 00:51:07 it would be good um yeah commentary I guess and they shared the picture so yep yeah it says uh the only thing that gives me some joy is that while all the Zayos were celebrating and laughing at me, I'm over here thinking, what does it say? It's y'all hit a Jewish person with an Israeli passport. Great job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great job. Yeah. It is, you know, it's, it's crazy. And it's, the craziest thing about it is like playing videos and there's all this videos and different
Starting point is 00:51:48 pictures and footage and from other similar attacks that night where a bunch of these psychopaths are essentially mobbing behind a single you know protester or a single not even you know
Starting point is 00:52:04 protester in some cases just a single person and just a person in the neighborhood yeah and and they they're all women It seems to be a trend of just, you know, finding a woman to attack. I mean, what are your feelings as a, you know, New Yorker now, you know, knowing that this is something that could happen based on what you're wearing and where you're going? By what you're wearing, you mean like a kofia. Yeah, right. Yeah. You know, that's a thing. You wore something, you wore something wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:40 That's going to be the new victim blaming. And that was. That was some of the comments. I was lurking. I think I've seen everything now. Yeah, I mean, the violence, literally, like, it was shocking just because of how similar. I mean, it was a, I got a glimpse of what Palestinians are facing in Palestine. But it was, you know, it was like a mirror image. I mean, they were screaming death to Arabs to what looks like a white woman. Um, like she, was she, she's not Palestinian. They were screaming death to Arabs. I mean, it was, they were from the West Bank, though. Like, I think these people have a summer home in the West Bank or summer tent.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Um, and yeah, I mean, it's, it's upsetting that that's, I mean, that's where we're headed to. Like, I'm seeing posts where it's like we're in the final phase of, um, ethnically cleansing and genociding in Gaza. And then here it just feels, I mean, it's upsetting. Like, we're disappearing students, and then this is just allowed. Like, for some reason, this is just, this is okay. But it has to have a misfafel because otherwise Jews might feel unsafe walking around the streets of New York. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:01 But the only time, I mean, as a Jewish person, the only time I've ever felt unsafe was on Thursday, April 24th, around 10 p.m. Yeah. in the most densely populated Jewish neighborhood. Yeah. My dad said when he went to Gaza, or maybe it was my brother, I forget,
Starting point is 00:54:20 but the only time he felt unsafe was dealing with Israeli border guards or Israeli military police. Right, right. And that's, I mean, that's how I feel now. When I go to super, like, super Jewish Zionist areas, I'm like, this is where I feel the most. uncomfortable um and that's i mean that's sad i mean i'm scared of my own are they my community i'm
Starting point is 00:54:48 not sure but i'm scared of my jewish community really it's it's really it's a frightening thing especially since like you know you would expect at the very least your family um would look at this and go like oh this is a bit so this is a perfect example like of, you know, people taking things too far, you know, like they can do all the genocide denial they want, but you'd figure them seeing their own daughter being victimized by this group of rabid psychopaths, you know, would maybe, you know, at least in some aspect changed their view, but it seems to... Unless they were in a cult, in which case they have to explain it by some.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Um, you know, even if it's heartbreaking to them, our daughter has gone astray. Our daughter has, she's in with the wrong crowd and she's got, she got herself into trouble and we love her. But, you know. Well, every, every accusation is a confession. My, my mother was very much like you're in a cult. How much are you getting paid? All that stuff, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And, um, I like, I wish I could get paid. That's great because I'm an unpaid intern right now. Right. Awesome. Yeah. Um, but yeah, no, they, they, they don't, they definitely don't see, like, see the violence. Um, I think she sent me like a Google search and like I clicked it and it just brought up like mob of Jewish men like assaulted this woman. And I was like, what are you, what are you trying to say? I never got an answer. So it's, it's hard to say. But that, yeah, that's interesting. I wonder if there was, you know, great job making us look bad. probably i think so yeah yeah you riled up that mob of jewish man uh it is they were just trying to follow god's commandments and then you existed right so where where are we now i mean you know
Starting point is 00:56:54 in terms of uh you know how how has this um affected your resolve are you uh have you decided you know what after getting a bottle or whatever smashed on my head I've decided, you're right, Israel's the only thing that can protect me from these Khabad psychopaths. Not at all. I would go back. I would do it again. I have no regrets.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Even though we weren't super organized and we probably should have been, we weren't prepared, but I would do it again, truly. No regrets. The discourse has been great. Really got me thinking. um yeah i yeah well take me with you next time i was out of town but i would sure of course i will hate you up yeah i just you know i'm not going to stop for a minor minor stitches stitches are fine you know yeah Palestinians are starving um and like their i mean their liberation i mean we depend
Starting point is 00:57:59 on when they're liberated we're all going to be liberated like truly so yeah you know well that is that is you know uh it's a crazy story uh i'm sorry that you had to go through that and also um uh you have some pretty badass uh scars and a badass photo to look back on and uh you did it for um you know a righteous cause i mean at the very least it's like the you can look back at this And it would only strengthen my resolve knowing that this is, you know, the way they respond is, you know, nothing says, oh, wait, I'm right, more than mob of people so mad at you walking that they, you know, victimize you. Well, we have a little bit more to get to. But first, we have to take a quick commercial break. So everyone, please stick around. We will be right back. surprise everyone you thought you were going to get a break from us but it's us again with our first ever advertisement on youtube this is very this is very exciting it's ad read time it's ad read we've made
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Starting point is 01:03:45 Miss fascist assholes Fuck Off Yes, I love that That's way better That's way better Yeah So, Daniel, you got into a little bit of a, I would say, a Twitter back and forth with somebody who was talking about this situation that you were in, Ms. Fafo, and I wanted to just show this is a newsmex contributor, is that right? He's an Australian guy.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I think he ran for the Australian Parliament. I don't know if he won his handle is vote. Lucco, is it? He's a broadcaster on Newsmax Australia. Security expert. Security expert. You can probably do a better Australian accent. No, I can't.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Dark humor with a sprinkler sunshine. It's not a nod. Fighting terrorists before it was trendy. Yeah, yeah. Security expert. Security expert. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but isn't that, isn't that like Kiwi?
Starting point is 01:04:47 That's expert? I don't know. And South African, it kind of blends into there. That's all the same weird fucking. just talk normal there are you know i have a particular animosity for you know mainstream israelis but it's actually nothing compared to what like the sort of down the middle of the line australian accent does to me like i have this visceral i'm like why does this country exist it's spine chilling it's spore and chilling it's spawn chilling it's not an accent um okay so
Starting point is 01:05:19 this guy you could put your forces lag at that right next next next next to the spine and it would be ice cold. Bloom and onion. Sorry to all of our Australian listening. Yeah, yeah, I thought. So anyway, I had never heard of this guy before, but he decided to get very vocal around this. So he posted that picture of you with liquid on your pants and says,
Starting point is 01:05:40 when you tried a free Palestine, can you do it, Matt? When you try to free Palestine, boy, storming an area full of Jews, but instead you get a punch in the face, piss your pants, get stalled to death and genocided. Jesus Christ. Such a classic story. That's a Jews. Yeah, it's that vowel. So yeah, he's really this pissing the pans. When a budgie is a bogan, you're going to have to explain that to us, Adam. Yeah. A bogan is like a real, I don't know, a cockney Australian, just trashy. The most like trash type of Australian, I believe. And what's a budgie? No idea. So that's what he,
Starting point is 01:06:21 He said, and then I responded, she's a Jewish Israeli, you leaking colostomy bag. She came up with that one. This is me being chivalrous, coming to the defense of a damsel. And, you know, I also hated to have to, like, who cares that you're a Jewish Israeli, right? Like, does that bother you? Like, that the fact that, in fact, you're Jewish and Israeli is some kind of own, but like, what, okay, what if you were Palestinian? what if you were Norwegian it shouldn't happen to anybody do you feel awkward about that that your identity now makes a point that shouldn't have to be made um oh my god yeah well
Starting point is 01:07:02 and i'm sorry i called you an israeli we hadn't spoken at that point no it's okay it's okay i mean like that's what a lot of people gathered when i said i had an israeli passport because i was going to say i have an israeli passport that's expired and kind of useless and like if i go there i'll never be able to leave unless you know and i call it israel yeah and i call and i it israel or jizrael um yeah yeah those are the two either or it depends on on the day but um i think i think it was just proof that i um like the jewish safety argument can go like two ways like people say like oh we're unsafe because israel does things and then it makes jews unsafe like in in the zionist entity but i'm like going like a step further by saying that so many jewish
Starting point is 01:07:50 people are part of the Palestinian liberation movement. Like, there's so many of us. Yes. Like, that's my, I mean, that's a big part of my community right now. That, like, the chances of us getting hurt at a protest, that's, like, the Jewish safety that is being, like, that's like, like, we're at risk of actually getting hurt by people who are upholding Zionism. That's the real threat.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Right, exactly. And it's their, it's their rubric, you know? this is this is why it's an own is because their their entire framing is uh about jewish safety you know so so for them you know it is uh like i think it's true of anyone who's pro-palestine where we look at this and we go like no one should be treated like this there is there's no uh exception you are it's it's not like uh you are you especially shouldn't be treated bad if you're Jewish is not, that's not how any of us feel because we don't look at, you know, people as being more worthy of being treated badly than others, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:03 It's only when, their rubric is that, you know, if you are doing this to a Jewish person, it is the worst thing you can do. It's the worst type of racism is anti-Semitism, the worst type of bigotry, you know, so it's, it's playing on their, on their shit. Not on ours. Right. And of course, you know, Daniel doesn't care about this. Do we have this here? Oh, that's in a different document.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Well, so we'll get to that part because he, you know, he's not impressed by the fact that people are claiming you're Jewish. Never mind the fact that you went online and said you are. Then we had this exchange. He says, what do you even do for a living? Surely writing such a inane post doesn't pay well. And I was like, oh my God, why? Wait, how much are you making off your inane post? So we should, we can get paid for this shit?
Starting point is 01:09:48 Cut me in. He says, I don't have your father's trust fund. I don't have a trust fund. I said, join the club. He said, ask your dad if you'll pay for my lifestyle as well. And I said, I promise I will. If you promise to tune in when we interview the woman, you slandered very soon about what actually happened and what she thinks of your slime creature ass on my podcast. Optional but recommended, subscribe to our Patreon and supplement my lifestyle.
Starting point is 01:10:11 He said, thanks. Thanks, but honestly, I'd rather listen to Static than the rantings of unhinged lunatics. But good luck with your podcast. I'm sure it pays the bills. I said, we do okay considering. Keep being yourself on here, supplying us with top-notch content. Everyone's happy.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Fantastic. I mean, you know, this guy is, is incredible because his entire, I mean, that first post he did started off just mocking you. And then I believe it mocked people who are starving and having a genocide afflicted upon them. That's right. It is weird to be this. openly disgusting.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Right. And it gets even more disgusting. He really outs himself as a genuine piss pig here. He's demanding more urine content. He retweets himself that original thing. The mark of someone who knows how to post real good. That's right. It's like, oh, I forgot another thing.
Starting point is 01:11:10 He says, when a girl pissing you gets a few hundred new followers and not one of them is a sicko. But check out the inbreds. and Hamas supporters who have arrived in the comments. So he's impressed that he got a few hundred new followers, and he's claiming that not one of them is a sicko. And let's just, without any comment, continue to the next. Sure.
Starting point is 01:11:32 It's unbelievable seeing anti-Semites, Hamas supporters, and Israel haters, all of a sardine. That has to be an Australian expression. Must be in like, of a pecked together into a can of. Yeah, yeah. Of a sardine. I'm sorry. country that has that as an expression, wherever a sought should exist. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Australia has no right to exist. Australia does not have the right to exist. We revoke your right to exist, Australia. Professing Papua New Guinea, you have your marching orders. That's right. New Zealand, squabble up. Professing the deep concern for a woman they thought was one of them, but now claim is a Jewish Israeli. These are the people who said nothing when Jewish women were raped and murdered or kidnapped and beaten. These people are like, an abuser who professes their love for the person they've spent years gaslighting and beating.
Starting point is 01:12:23 What are you talking about? He's just chanting into a mirror. And then he's going on with more piss content. LinkedIn, the lamest, here's what he's mad about. He posts two pictures, which is a LinkedIn post of his post, which LinkedIn has blurred out
Starting point is 01:12:43 with the sensitive content warning. They're censoring me on being censored. I was told this was a safe space for my piss kink. He thought he was posting on Kinkton. Always promoting. Always be grinding. That's right. Rising grind, Daniel.
Starting point is 01:13:00 LinkedIn, the limist social media will automatically blur the picture of New York's Miss Fafo 2025. That's where the name comes from. Pissing a pants after her unwanted behavior in a Jewish neighborhood. Unwanted behavior in a Jewish neighborhood. Yeah, walking. you're walking the whole thing where you walked yeah that's right yeah
Starting point is 01:13:21 a lot of African Americans committed unwanted behavior in white neighborhoods back in the 60s that's right yeah they they did unwanted behavior all the way to Washington DC and they yeah I don't know yeah yeah yeah yeah uh yet LinkedIn doesn't blur endless
Starting point is 01:13:38 Palestinian propaganda including fake AI generated gore picks lame he says boo show us to piss yeah more peace show my piss
Starting point is 01:13:50 joke I gotta say anyone who's like going on social media to complain about social media is I think
Starting point is 01:13:58 one of my favorite things in the world when they're like oh I hate LinkedIn I want they trying to shout people
Starting point is 01:14:05 how much piss off a show and now it and you know what Elon take over LinkedIn so I can't
Starting point is 01:14:13 do the act I was gonna post another one saying hey Miss Fafo you're in big trouble there's now there's no pee in the
Starting point is 01:14:24 Arabic language but there's I would like there to be some some pee in my mouth if you know what I mean oh that was another one he did yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah where is this one the anime one did he did yeah when you thought
Starting point is 01:14:38 when you thought PLO meant something else this guy is piss obsessed that is wild wild he's a pissed pig on the bobby the picture kind of slaps up it does kind of slap it does are you going to make that your new your new yeah but you know
Starting point is 01:14:57 but I didn't have to do it so like I don't have to that's right you don't have the guilt of making it yourself right like god this guy took time there's a certain type of disgusting human being who becomes a mouthpiece for the state of Israel and they all eventually
Starting point is 01:15:16 reveal their fetishes um which i think we can all be grateful for um but yeah that is that's wild so uh you know other daniel he's evil daniel by the way you're good daniel um yeah other daniel i hope you're you're listening to this podcast uh and then this is a big um you know a big f you to you and uh i i truly do hope that he's listening to this podcast just like sniffing piss-filled underwear just like formaldehyde or you know yeah exactly like ether in that episode of severance yeah yeah oh man well i think i think that's going to do it for the pod today uh honestly truly again it was a pleasure talking to you thank you for coming on having us break our first ever, you know, story on this, you know, or at least, I don't know if
Starting point is 01:16:20 it's, is it kind of breaking news or is it just like we got a scoop? It's a scoop, yeah. It's a scoop. We did a scoop. We're one step to being Ben and Jerry's. That's right. That's right. Thank you, seriously, thank you for coming on and giving us. Two scoops of FAFO in every episode of Moral podcast.
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