Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - 119: Tuckermaxxing, with Samira Mohyeddin

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

Matt and Daniel are reunited and it feels so good. They’re joined by On The Line Media’s Samira Mohyeddin to discuss the Mossad’s movie villain phone threats, Israel’s casual relationship with the term ceasefire, and to watch a cat-man get dogwalked.Please donate to The Sameer Project: http://bit.ly/sameerprojFollow On The Line Media: https://www.youtube.com/@SamiraMohyeddin Subscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraWhat’s The Spin playlist: https://spoti.fi/4kjO9tLSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3HgpxDmApple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4kizajtSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Gittarin podcast of Dunya No mehast Matt Lieb and I will be your world's most moral co-host I'm Daniel Mette and I think we've taken this

Persian thing to Farsi far. I think we think we're taking it too far, see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why we've stopped. Yes, that's why. It's because we've taken it too far, see. That's, that is why we've stopped.

Not because it took us 30 minutes to just learn how to say what we just said. And I've already forgotten it. With absolutely no help from our. No help from anyone. Fluent guest. No, no, we learned on our own. Self-taught. I am back, folks. I am so excited to be back. Thank you to everyone who continued to listen to and watch this podcast during my one week absence where I was in beautiful Hawaii and just had a marvelous time. Met a few random Bad Hasbara fans while I was out there. Yeah. Yeah. It was wild. And, you know, I,

got, I got recognized at the airport. I love that. If you see me literally anywhere, but if especially if you see me near, um, my parents, and you'll know they're my parents, because they'll look like me. Uh, please do not hesitate to come up to me and say how much you like anything I do. Uh, even if it's a lie. Even if you hate me, just say something nice in front of my family so they'll know there's a reason. that I, you know, am so busy all the time. That I'm actually doing very important work. What I made it.

What's funny about this is I literally like an hour ago just got off the plane from Budapest. Yeah. Finally back in my own apartment. I don't know what time it is, what time's on him in. Yeah. And I was there with my dad and my siblings. Yeah. And my dad gets recognized in a lot of places, but especially in his home city.

Sure. So I'm constantly having the experience of walking around. Budapest with my dad and like our itinerary is constantly being delayed by people wanting to talk to him and pictures and all this kind of stuff. Sure, sure, sure. And whatever. I had my own triggers around that, you know, nice if someone recognized me, you know, but. Yeah, this is how I feel around my wife. Exactly. Every time, you know, we walk around, everyone's like, oh, it's Francesca and some fucking schmuck. Exactly. And the one place someone mentioned the podcast was we went to the, uh, the, the, the, the glass house museum, which is the place where my father as an infant was like hid for two days

at a Swiss consulate kind of situation in a glass factory, converted glass factory where like up to 2,000 Jewish families were, or Jewish people were crowded in and hiding and, you know, it saved his life. And actually, it was the Jabotinsky folks who probably let him in. Anyway, the tour guide, whose name was Andrash, uh, turned to me and he said, are you the one with the podcast? Wow. The politics podcast, the Gaza podcast. Oh, shit.

And I immediately said, yes, I am. And my sister says, well, he could be talking about Aaron. Yeah, that's right. I forgot. And I said, no, no, I'm pretty sure it's me. Aaron's podcast is about a range of topics. Mine is exclusively about Israel. That's right.

That's right. Yeah, you're like, no one would. Describe Aaron's thing as just the Gaza thing, okay? I have a beat. Well, that's wonderful. I love that. I love that. And I love all of you out there for subscribing to both our YouTube channel,

but also to Spotify, giving us five stars, a review writing a little fucking thing in it, where you're like, I love this, these guys. And I love you for coming back, Matt. I missed you. We missed you. I, you know what? I want you to know that I had all kinds of opportunities. while you were gone to do what you did to me when I was gone,

which is to make lots of jokes about your anus. That's right. Like, I could have said to Adam at any point, Adam, thank you so much for filling Matt's seat. Usually the only person who's allowed to do that is Francesca. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, you know what I'm saying? But I didn't say that. I didn't say anything like that.

You didn't do any jokes about where you sexualized me, and I appreciate that. That's right. Although I would have been fine with it, but we all have different things that we're fine with. That's right. And different things that we're not fine with. Um,

for example, um, you may not be happy with me, uh, saying, oh, you know, uh,

Daniel's busy right now getting, um, getting plowed, you know, by a guy with a, or whatever. It wasn't even, it wasn't even,

it got surgical. It got, yeah, it was weird. It was like, you were admitting me to all kinds of specialized words for distended, prolapse right you had some prolapse stuff yeah well you may not be comfortable with that and i for example out of thin air uh may not be comfortable with you having a zionist on our podcast yeah i'm

really sorry to bring that on you by surprise by surprise no we definitely didn't consult that's right i knew nothing that's right i go away for one week and here's what happens one America goes to war with Iran. Two, Bad Hasbara, all of a sudden, platforms the Zionists. And as soon as I return, what happened? Shail publicly renounced Zionism. And Trump forces a ceasefire between Israel and Iran. I just want to say, I'm magic.

You are magic. I am magic. It is not, no, you don't get credit. I get credit merely by being here. I'm just glad that you're back and I can wake out of my delusions of grandeur that I was, you know. It is quite amazing. You've rested control of the podcast back from me.

I was really taking that ball and trying to run it all the way down to the other end of the field to the, yeah, let's just sort of be a liberal Zionist, apologetic, conciliatory podcast end zone. You know, everyone's going for that because that's where the money is. But, you know, I will say it is kind of incredible. And for those who don't know what we're talking about, That's because you're not a patron, a patron. So you don't pay to know.

You got to, you got to find out by becoming a patron, patreon.com slash baddest bar. Jesus Christ, Matt, speak. I haven't spoke for like seven weeks. Now it's a sudden they sound bad. Mahalo. So you had someone who had been talking a lot of shit about for a long time, like since the beginning of this podcast, Shail, Ben, Ephraim on the podcast. Yeah.

And he is someone who. in the last couple of months, and we've discussed this, has, you've seen his liberal Zionism become shakier and shakier. And it was one of the funniest, it was like the funny thing about him was the fact that you could tell he was hanging on by a thread, where it just like he was holding on for dear life trying to justify what Israel was in his mind and trying to like come to terms of what it is in reality.

He was done justifying what it was doing. Yes. So all he had left with his ideas, about what it used to be or could be or was supposed to be or might one day be if not for those meddling mullahs or jihadists or extremists or whatever. But meanwhile, he's getting pummeled,

way harder than we ever pumbled him. By who? By, of course, the fucking wild things. The Zionists who are saying, no, please don't go, we'll eat you up. We love you so. AKA you're a fucking capo. We know where you live. All the shit they do when you start to show

any sign of ideological curiosity, never mind flexibility. Yes, yes. And, and, you know, it's kind of amazing after the interview, he put out this tweet, yes, Zionism is a cult and I'm leaving it by. Within 24 hours of us dropping the episode. Yes, to which you posted, you know, this scene from Fiddler on the roof, which is what, the dream sequence, I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's heavy his dream, the one he makes up in order to convince his wife to allow their daughter to marry the Taylor.

A blessing on your head, muzzle tough, muscle tough. Yeah, yeah. The Taylor motto cams oil. Motel! I love that shit. You mean the butcher, brown. So, yeah, it was, you know, an amazing turn. Now, I will say there was a lot of discussion on the Patreon.

A lot of people were discussing. how they there was I would say for the most part it was you know well received or at least received in the spirit that it was meant to be received. A lot of people discussed it and some people were disgusted. Yes and I got to say a lot of the reasons why they were just disgusted I was like yeah I could see that I can understand and then some of the reasons you know I personally felt were a little I was like okay well you know

my general feeling about it was, while I do not intend to make it a habit to have on liberal Zionists or whatnot, it all depends on whether or not you see him saying he's no longer a Zionist or, you know, saying that he believes this is a genocide and genocide is bad, in good faith or not. And you're, I think, well within your rights to disbelieve him. I'm not even entirely sure if I believe him. And the reason I say that is because it's, you know, I will say the rather rapidness of his change for me always puts a little few red flags. It's like, well, can you be bullied back into it? You know what I mean?

But I'd like to say that I don't believe it was a bullying effort that led him to this. I actually do think it was an open hand. And as annoying as it is for people to have to coddle these motherfuckers, you do have to understand that like for, at least for a lot of us, there is a bit of like, I don't know, missing, like being able to have these kinds of discussions with people without them being openly genocidal. Like, we can't, like, I can't have a discussion with anyone who doesn't admit this is a genocide. As soon as you admit it's a genocide, to me, I'm like, okay, we can possibly start talking at least

on a basis of reality. Can we start talking maybe a little bit about the implications of it being a genocide? Right, right. And actually, once someone admits that, because it has such an emotional, I mean, he had posted about what a relief it was to stop denying this. Right. And he was never denying it vociferously or being like the Palestinians deserve it. He was always lamenting the excesses.

He's always saying this is terrible. But he was, you know, doing the blaming both sides thing. Once he gave up on that, at least mostly, he said that he was sleeping better at night. He felt better about himself. He looked in the mirror and he saw someone who was like more in integrity. Well, given that that felt good, I was then in a position to be like, well, you know what would feel even better? Right. If you gave up on this illusion, that illusion, this just,

certification, this, whatever. And, yeah, look, it's not, don't, like, don't try this at home, folks. And it's not for everybody. Certainly, it's not for everybody to have these kinds of conversations. Yeah. It's also not for everybody to listen to these kinds of conversations. Right. And I said so at the top of the episode.

And I, and some people actually opted not to. And I fully and totally respect that. And some people did listen to it and they were just not convinced or not sold and they just had an icky feeling. I get that too, given the times we're living in and given what Zionism has actually meant on the ground, not in the theory or the mind or the emotions of some Jew with attachments to the place.

But at the same time, like for me, like I posted for the patrons today, just some reflections, it was an enjoyable thing for me to do. Because I don't do that much on this podcast. I'm just, you know, I get to exercise my snarky muscles. and dismiss people and smack down idiocy, which is a great thing to do. But before I joined this podcast, Matt, like when I met you in the fall of 23, I was having a lot of more earnest conversations, more from the heart conversations, not conciliatory,

not like, wow, you really make some good points. It's like you make no good points, but I'm going to treat you like a human being and even like a cousin. and we're going to leave this maybe with smiles on our faces, even if I tell you, like, you're holding on to some bullshit. And I enjoyed that, and, you know, it sounds like some people got some value from listening to it. Yeah, yeah. And I will say, you know, it's been interesting to see the response,

and I encourage people, I think, to have those discussions, you know, like on our Patreon and stuff like that. feel free to be mad about it. And it's not about this one individual, actually. Of course. It really isn't, you know, and it doesn't, like, it doesn't matter on some level. It really truly doesn't make any difference that one guy on Twitter with 60,000 followers has now said, oh, it's a cult and I'm leaving.

Or that he came on our podcast and seems to have, like, broadened his mind. It does, and it doesn't matter. Right. It doesn't matter at all. And it's, it's, it's a. window into something and that's what this that's what any podcast is and to me it also felt good to just gently with you out of the picture and with me gone and obviously with no consultation with you whatsoever that's right I knew nothing unless people liked it in which I knew the whole

time yeah you planned it in fact it was just a script we were reading that's right right that's my puppet no but you know look any we are so gratified by the response this show has gotten and how much it means to people. And any time you create something that means things to people, at a certain point, there's going to come a point where you do something that will challenge what people expect. All of our favorite television shows have done that. All of our, you know, I'm not comparing us necessarily to David Chase or David Simon or. I mean, we're essentially the same thing as the wire.

But we're basically, it's that level. it's not canonical the wire that has barra six feet under all i'm saying is these these moments happen yeah in in in in the career of any media thing any media thing any any product of art and yeah and i got to say it's kind of an exciting exciting thing to just test out you know it was great for me uh because i was like listen ever since daniel joined the puck which was basically at the beginning, save for like the first 10 episodes or something like that. And you were on episode four, so let's be real.

But slowly over time and more rapidly since, the comment sections have been, oh, Daniel's so dreamy. Daniel's so smart. He's the star. He's the smart one. I like listening to his voice. Yes.

He's the one who speaks in coherence. his adherent sentences, you know, and now, now he has soiled, soiled my podcast, whereas I, the dumb one, the clown, the guy who talked about fucking a big mouth Billy Bass, the gibbering freak, you know, the guy who sometimes does offensive voices is now the good one, I'm the pure one. I'm the true ally to all colonized peoples, you know, I'm the one who had his podcast sullied by a colonizer while I was on vacation in Hawaii, all right? And the native Hawaiians have a word for people like me. It's Ha'ole, which I was assured loosely translates to a most moral friend and comrade.

And I think we can all agree that's what I am. I am the Ha'Ole. And I just want to say it in my most perfect and practiced Persian, Khahosh Mikonam, which is to say, you're welcome. I love it. And I love you. And I support you. And I actually thought it was a pretty good episode despite a couple of moments where I was just like, cry. I just want to, you know, there's something about me.

Deep in my dark heart, I just want every, even former Zionist to cry. and beg forgiveness. Atone. Atone. You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Benefriam. And you must atone. But it's natural. Look.

I mean, look, look at it this way. It's an episode that also allows us, allows people to feel other feelings than the feelings they get to feel during the rest. I mean, you get to feel your fucking rage and your irritation and your indignation. That's right. And I respect him for putting himself in the line. of fire. He knew he was going to provoke that in people. And maybe he's trolling, but I don't think so. I think on a certain level, I think on a certain level, something in him is trying to line himself

up more with his deeper values. That's my sense. But it doesn't matter what you think about him. It's one episode out of 100 fucking at 20. Yeah. The rest of the guests are neither Zionists nor sex past. But we've spoken enough about this. Go to the Patreon, listen to the episode or don't. You know, whatever. There's lots of delicious slop for you to mash your little piggy snouts into. Today's episode is brought to you by the Samir Project. The Samir Project is a donations-based aid initiative led by four Palestinians in the diaspora working to supply emergency funding to the displaced families of Gaza.

The fund was originally formed to purchase and distribute tents in southern Gaza and now supplies cash envelopes on an as-needed basis to allow. families, the independence to secure the specific aid they require for themselves. You can donate by going to bit.ly slash Samir Praj, S-A-M-E-E-R-P-O-J. Please donate to that. That is more worthy of your money than listening to Shaill and Daniel talk about stuff. But then if you have money left over, feel free to join the Patreon. Daniel. Yes, sir. Can we do a quick spin? we sure can right but first of all i have some exclusive footage of you in hawaii oh you do you didn't you didn't think uh the bad hasbara uh drones were watching but they were shit check it out

stupid see there you are with your little mustache slut stupid so dumb that's matt leave in the seaside kingdom yes yes that was Mario for those who listening. Super Mario Odyssey. All right. Beverly Hills Cobb soundtrack because in New York City today the heat is fucking on.

As Glenn Fry said, it's, we're frying here. It's like 101 degrees. Tish or Rishi funk psychedelia and pop from the Iranian Revolution generation.

This is some Iranian classic music here. I wonder if our guest knows about it. Yeah, I see, I see Samira in, like, the bottom half where it's before she comes in, and she's, I, she's either saying, fuck, yeah, or no! It's a wow. It's a big wow.

It's a great, great record. Fiorello, the original Broadway cast of the Harnik and Bach, speaking of Fiddler on the roof, same writing team wrote this. It's about LaGuardia, Fiorlo LaGuardia. So it's a musical about a New York City mayor, because today that we're recording this is a Day in New York City. Wow. We're going to speak about that.

There's some great stuff in here. By the time this episode comes out, I believe they will have tally at the results. I hope so. We hope for a Zohran win. We do. And there's a great song about political corruption here called Little Tin Box, one of the funniest musical theater comedy songs ever written. Go listen to it.

Janet Jackson controlled because of the song Nasty, because Shiael said at the top of the episode, which was very disarming. He said, you guys are very funny. I listened to all of the fun you made of me, and not only are you funny, but you're not nasty. And I was like, we're not. Did you know we're not nasty, man? I thought we were nasty boys.

I thought we were nasty. And then finally, the Smiths, the queen is dead, because Johnny Marr came out and said some pretty cool shit. Oh, he did? Yep, about the genocide. In support, I think, of kneecap or someone, I forget. I don't have the, whatever. But great guitar player and turns out.

out a guy with a heart and a mind and a conscience. That's the spin today, Matt. What's Morris is he saying? Yeah. Has he said anything? And if a 10-ton bomb. I don't know what he said. Actually, his politics are all over the place.

They're all over the place. So that's the spin. And finally, it is time to bring on our guests to talk about all of the news that will soon be over by the time this comes out. It is A returning champion You know her

You love her Welcome back to the podcast Samira Mojade Bah Bah Bah Samira Project Yes Please do donate to the Samir Project They do amazing stuff

Yeah yeah yeah It's a great project And it is great to see you Did you know that album he was talking about? Uh, no, but it looks like a compilation. And where the, how did you get that? Where did you get that? I don't remember.

I was, I was, like, sourcing, like, Habibi Funk albums, like that whole series. And this one came up. What does that say, Tishé, Orichet. Tishé or Rishet. That is, um, Féiduna Farah, Zad, on the cover there. I was going to say. He was a big showman in Iran. Um, and, uh, many people think he was queer.

we don't know if he was but he was our queer man and he was killed horribly he does look a little Freddie Mercury like I'm sorry I believe you said he died a horrible death yeah he he was killed by agents of the Iranian regime in Bonn Germany in 1992

they cut his tongue out and he bled to death but um wow that when you say the Iranian regime which regime would that have been That was in 1992, so it was under, I think it was Rafsanjani then. Yeah, Rafsanjani was president. Well, there you go, folks.

That's two straight episodes with apologists. We're not, you know, you said Iranian regime. That's Zionist talk there. Yeah. Well, you know. It is a regime. What the fuck do people want? Regime doesn't just mean diet.

Right. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. Well, I mean, so that's what we need to talk about. We need to talk about what's happened in Iran. And it is, it's been a crazy week because I, is that Jack? Straight Jack. Beautiful.

It's been a really tough week. It has been. I mean, it's been, it's been really wild to watch because you're dealing with a new cycle that's so fast that I had one vacation. and we went from not being involved, at least America not being involved, to we're bombing Iran, to now we're doing a ceasefire, like all within, I mean, by the time this episode comes out, we could be boots on the ground at war with Iran. And it's just been, it's been too much for me to handle. I'm going to start with just, I want to read some Trump tweets, just so. So we can see what happened. So first and foremost, we have, this is how I found out, this tweet where he says, we have completed our very successful attack on three nuclear sites in Iran, including

Fordo, Natanz, and Eshfahan. All right. Well, Esfahan, all planes are now outside of Iran airspace, a payload full of bombs. Payload. Yes. The whole load of bombs was driving. dropped on the primary site for Doe. All the planes are safely on their way home.

Congratulations to our great American warriors. There is not another military in the world that could have done this. Now is the time for peace. Thank you for your attention to this matter. That last sentence really threw me for a loop. But that's become his sign-off. That's his sign-up. It's one of the funniest sign-offs in history.

But isn't that what you ask someone who's in power? That's when you're asking someone else to do something for you, please. It was like, thank you for your attention. That's what I say to my landlord. I'm just circling back about that, that bomb stuff. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, we put a pin on that bomb stuff earlier on, but we've decided to table it for now. And then he went on to do a longer tweet.

Congratulations to everyone in which he talks about how this should be called the 12-hour war or something. or the 12-day war and says- But it's also a state staggered. Officially, Iran will start the ceasefire. Yeah. At the 12th hour. Israel will start the ceasefire upon the 24th hour. Right.

Seast fire, you first. Yeah, yeah. First you cease fire, then the other one ceasefires. And then an official end to the 12-day war will be saluted by the world. And then he goes on to say, God bless Israel. God bless Iran God bless the Middle East God bless the United States of America

and God bless the world I love this approach where he's just like well certainly I can bomb three nuclear facilities and say all done God bless

yes and then of course today the ceasefire is now in effect we do not violate it please you better fucking listen what the fuck I sent out the tweet and now everybody's bombing. He was so mad today.

Did you see his little video about how Iran and Israel or they both don't know what the fuck they're doing? Yes. I of course have that video and we have to play it. Do you believe that Iran is so committed to see? Yeah, I do. They violated, but Israel violated it too. Israel as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before.

The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with it. I'm sorry. The biggest load. Hot braided ropes. Hot braided rope. The thickest ropes. You've never seen a load like this.

You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours, you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. Yes, you do. If you're Israel, that is always what you do. always. It's famously what Israel does. Israel is like I always think back to 1967 when it comes to ceasefire agreements because in 1967 they were able to create the modern borders of the state of Israel by going, okay, we have, I believe it was 12 hours or something like that until the ceasefire. They just had the IDF run and just

expand expand expand as much as you could that's how they took jerusalem that's how they took go on like israel doesn't have borders does it well yeah no i not officially borders but you know it's like it's yes of course you do that trump that's what israel does not only that but israel there's been times when israel's timed its bombing raids like they've bombed at 242 PM in a complete and total mockery of UN Resolution 242. Oh, wow. They'll take, they'll not only flout borders and boundaries, but they'll actively piss in the face of the agreements that they're violating by choosing the time to do it.

It's absolutely nuts. Just to finish this video and then I have some questions for you. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what? We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that? Damn.

You understand? Of all the bombs dropped. Now the F bomb. First you get the strength, then you get the peace. Yeah, then you get the women. Yeah. They're supposed to be fucking professionals. You're supposed to blow the blood a dose off.

I don't know what we're, we're just quoting everything. That's right. That's all we do. So, Samira, I want to ask you about your experience within this, like, let's say the last couple of weeks. I'm just looking at your face. What do you expect from this ceasefire and, yeah. And how are you doing? And how are you doing?

How are you holding up? You know, I'm okay. I'm just doing stuff. You know, I'm hold out here and I'm waiting for things to happen. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a lot of jack. Oh, yeah. No, actually, I, you know, as you were saying, Matt,

there's so much shit coming at us constantly that yesterday I was in another interview for just an hour and a half. And in that hour and a half, the district six and district seven of Tehran were issued evacuation evacuation orders. So that's about 600,000 people told to evacuate. And then I found out that right before that, like 20 minutes before, a ceasefire was announced. So I was like, what the fuck is going on? Is it the ceasefire?

Is it the evacuation? And then my friend starts messaging me. And she's like, the bombs here are fucking crazy. Like I've never seen before. And I went and I looked and it's just, like, you know, so when he, I mean, Trump is exasperated, that's what we were too in a lot of ways, right?

Like, why aren't you listening? But it's been a shit fucking 12 days, really shit. And then to listen to people say things like Iran is the aggressor, what the fuck? Like, Israel literally bombed Iran and they're like, existential threat for 30 years. Yes. 30 years, Netanyahu's going, any day now, any day, the bomb. One week, two weeks.

And so what does he do? The bomb never comes, so he bombs. Right. Yeah. Close watchers of our branded graphics on this show. Oh, yes. I was just going to point that out to that. Why don't you point it out?

How much Iranians had fun with this graphic? this fucking roadrunner graphic that Netanyahu put up at the United Nations. We were showing people in Iran were putting pomegranates like a fuse coming out of it. He's such a clown, Netanyahu. At one point, I think it was in 2012. He said something like, Iranians aren't allowed to wear jeans. You're fucking kidding me. If you find that clip, you'll love it.

I love that. You've got to find it. They can wear khakis and they can, they can wear, there's khakis and they can wear linen. But it is like, it's been crazy to watch, you know, obviously all of the two decades, three decades of anti-Iran Hasbara just all happening in 12 days. now you cannot even compare it like this whole operation rising lion that is some fucking choice has barra like i've never ever seen that because this goes right to the heart of iranian zionism yes you know what i mean who are like the arabs came and took over our land and we are now decolonizing it we are persian you know meow and like that is like you know

Israel is kind of brilliant because it's picked up on this weird-ass degenerative thing that's happening in a lot of Iranian brains. And it's just using it ad nauseum. You know, they have an IDF Persian page. Yeah. And go on it. I start my mornings there. It is fascinating. So, you know, I was led to believe, you know, when this all started that the people of Iran stood behind.

Israel bombing them, that they were, in fact, protesting in the streets in support of being bombed. Which is a nice break for them from being thrown off of buildings. That's right. Which is all that happens there. Yes, apparently. We're all thrown up, especially queer people. We're just like, phew. Yeah, just bop, bop, b, b, every day.

All the rooftops, yeah. Yes. But this was a protest, you know, in full support, totally real video. in Tehran and I'm going to play it for you here As if we would even pronounce it like that Israel

I love it with the same cadence as Marg bar America I love that And that weird flag I'm not sure if you that. There was a weird, like, Iranian, the Islamic Republic flag with like a blue strip down the middle. We have overwhelmingly positive feelings about Israel. Yes. So, the, as part that I saw now, I would love to hear what you saw, but for the most part, what I was seeing

was you had your neocons going on, you know, 24-hour news networks and stuff and saying, like, I know everyone's still mad about Iraq, but, uh, this, time, we're going to get it right. Because back then we had dumb presidents. Right. Yes. J.D. Vance literally said, we had dumb presidents back then. And now we have- folks, I understand, you know, we did get elected on a platform of America first and ending the neocon takeover of our foreign policy and redirecting our funds back to, you know, helping the opioid crisis and the manufacturing crisis in this country. And it's understandable that people would be a little trepidious about this foreign adventure given foreign.

misadventures in the past. But what you have to understand is those other presidents were poo-poo heads. That's right. Big old dumb-dums. I love it too because there's all this like, there's all this video footage of people saying, the thing about Trump is, no new wars. And I just think of that Simpsons joke where he goes, oh, sorry, there's an error here. No, comma, new wars, exclamation, boy. Yeah. And the other has bar I was seeing was where people going on, you know, the view and shit like that and talking about the Iranian regime in a way that, where you were able to justify regime change because, well, I am someone who's Persian and therefore, if I'm saying I want regime change, you all should come and liberate us.

We will be treating you as liberators. What were you seeing out there? in the in the Hezbara mind you know on the view just to just stay with that yes ridiculous show um there you know at one point whoopi goldberg was like don't go there you know um but what's interesting is right before she did that a woman said women in iran are not educated right i i did a whole documentary on the only woman in the world to win the fields medal. This is basically the Nobel Prize of Math. She's Iranian. Mariam Mirzahani. So this idea that, you know, 70% of the university students that graduate in Iran in STEM are all women. Yeah. There were so many women in universities in Iran that they put a quota on them. And we're like,

there's too many of you here. We need to like lessen it. So for these fucking assholes to go on and say this shit, it's basically manufacturing consent we are we're now the afghan women all over again right for for reasons it's it's it's the gays and the women we're coming to rescue you we'll bomb the shit out of you and kill you but we're coming to rescue you yeah and and it's it's wild too because uh you know so much of it just mirro if anyone was paying attention to the last you know 21 months of israeli has bar against the palestinians or against the lebanese or against the Syrians or against whatever Arabs they are currently trying to destroy. It was all the same shit repackaged and I couldn't like I was losing my mind watching people

just search and replace a Palestinian with Iranian. It just like from the whole, oh, we're throwing gaze off roofs and stuff like that. I was like, are we still doing this? We're going to just, this is going to be our thing. forever. We're always going to justify doing war crimes and supporting a criminal regime in Israel by saying

well, these guys are pretty homophobic. It's just totally Yeah, let's kill him. You don't like gays, you're going to die. Homophobic in Mississippi or Texas or anywhere else in this stuff. Right. Right.

Bomb Texas. Oh, it just was crazy. And, and So one of the, one of the Hasbarists who I caught doing this was actually Shaill. And this was one of his moments of residual Hasbara. He's already given up on his Zionism. He's already given up on, you know, denying it to genocide, all of that.

But when it comes to foreign policy, the chauvinism came through. And I just want to show you this exchange I had with him. He said this, you can't be anti-war if you support the Iranian regime without their support for Hamas and Hezbollah. This is after our interview. The horrors of Gaza would never have happened without their support for the Houthis, the people of Yemen would not be starving, and the people of Iran would not be under attack. If you truly hate wars, it's not enough to rightfully hold Israel to task, you must hold Iran responsible to. And I said this, and I wonder, Samira, if you can just grade how well I did here in terms of pushing back on this, because I was kind of flying blind.

I said, number one, to assert a country's sovereign right to their own, or I should say to affirm, a country's sovereign right to their own resource enrichment is not too, quote, support the regime. Number two, Hamas and Hezbollah are 100% a creation and consequence of decades of quote unquote horrors inflicted by Israel and America, no matter who came along to support them later, horrors that any group of humans would rightly resist. And finally, moreover, the legitimacy of other countries' regimes are not yours or mine to adjudicate unless they actively aggress against others' sovereignty. And Iran's support for resistance groups is not an encroachment of Israeli anything because the Israeli regime has no right to continue the crimes those groups are resisting. So this is classic Western chauvinist and let's be real liberal Zionist fallacy

here Shiael. Bravo. All right. Bravo. Was there any response to that? I don't know if he saw it. He sees it when I reply. I don't know if he sees my rejuice. I'm probably DM him with it. Just to let him know he's not he's not out of my shit list completely just because we had a chummy, a chummy juie time together, you know what I'm saying? You were very earnest and, you know, trying to appeal and put forth really international law, which doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, no. Just so you all know. Which is so funny to watch, uh, because this was the other, you know, stuff I think that made people go insane, including me, was the amount of, um, Hasbara, it was not even like, I don't even know if you can call it Hasbara. It's the manufacturing of consent about war crimes.

that the Iranians are doing on the Israelis through their missile strikes. And there'll be pictures of like, you know, someone next to... They were actually very funny. I don't mean to diminish what happened. No, I mean, they were, though. But like, ridiculous. I mean, but like one of them was, there was someone said, you know, another child rescued from the rubble.

and it would be a child completely clean being held by, and here's the thing, that is traumatizing for a child, but all I could think is like this language of rescued from the rubble, this language of they bombed the hospital, you know, all of this stuff made everyone just go, you have been saying it is okay to do these things. Even if it was a child's corpse, it would be so on the nose. Yes, and it just, it's just,

so infuriating to watch uh people being like where's where's our sympathy when this is happening to us and you think that i maybe you guys have a better pulse on it but do you think that israelis right now really do not understand how much the world hates them i don't know i honestly i i i think they do, but I also think that they are masters of putting blinders on. I think that if you grow up in a society in which you are truly face to face with what you know is a supremacist regime that's on your side, you start to become immune to the crimes that you are committing and that your countrymen are committing and it's i i just think that they have a resistance to it in some way where they go like well yes people don't like us but you know people have people haven't

like jews for thousands of i mean they've always had this haters gonna hate attitude towards the world true haters gonna hate and fuck around and find out yeah exactly yes and i i just don't know if they, if there's, the question I have is, does Alon Levy know when he is writing something like, I can't believe the international community is silent when our, our hospital in the south of Israel has been bombed. When our hospital in Bersheva across the street from a massive military compound. Right. Yes. Exactly. Yeah. A hospital that was completely emptied. Yes, yes, was, was bombed. Like, then there are some, then there are some other wonderful, ironic tweets that, where they, I don't think they even realize how funny this is.

I saw that today. Haley Morinstein, whoever that is, says, it's illegal for women to dance on TikTok in Iran. So let's bomb them. Right. And let's talk about, like, Like what dancing on TikTok brings to mind when anyone thinks about countries where it's legal to dance on TikTok. I love that where they're like, unlike in Israel, where it is actually encouraged to dance in the clothes of a Palestinian family that you have just murdered. Iran doesn't even allow their girls to join the army in their teens and rape children with with Rams horns tipped with white phosphorus and then force their families. to eat animal carcasses in the bombed out ruins of their homes and then go dance about it on TikTok triumphantly. What kind of oppressive misogynist regime doesn't allow their girls to express themselves that way? Was that you? That was me. Yeah, that I saw somebody

responded to that. I'm quoting myself. Okay. Yeah, it is, I mean, it is just, it's wild to watch. And if we're continuing on the... They did that, sorry, just to add a little bit more Hasbara on this. Yes. The IDF, they call it IDF Farsi, but it should be IDF Persian. The IDF Persian page, when I, you know, I start my mornings there, today, they had one that was of a woman. You know, they used the IDF women as like thirst traps. I know.

had this a woman fighter and she said you know i felt extra special when i was going on a bombing run in iran as a woman and i was thinking to myself how fucking daft do you have to be to not understand the whole weirdness around you getting in a fighter jet and bombing women and calling that feminism well it's mind-boggling when the house burns down. Sorry, you're such a self-hating lesbian. So does they. It's woman on women.

It's women on women liberation. That's lesbian for hesby to you. Get the names right, because these are the names I get. That's right. Lesby for hesby. That's a real, you should, please get that website. Get Lesb forhesby.com before it's too late. Yeah, I mean, and it's been interesting to see the,

like Iranian diaspora, the Zionist Iranian diaspora, like, really go all out. Because we've seen these characters for the past 21 months, you know, like... Last time you were on, we talked about Elyke-Labon. Elic LeBon. And I don't know how to pronounce this name. Neo? Neoburg. What is that?

What is a Neoburg? Is it a real person? What is? Nealberg just as opposed to like a proto Berg, you know, this was like before Berg and then there was Berg and then Neoburg is like new generation of Berg. But like seeing them just speak about Israel for the past 22 months or whatever, 21 months, we've kind of grown used to them. But then seeing them apply this like, I'm doing this because I'm a. feminist has barra to it um with regards to regime change in iran has been really marvelous to watch and it's been very interestingly see post ceasefire announcement um the um

is quiet what's that you're all quiet yeah they are they're nothing to say they're they're quiet or they're they're they're they're pissed well they're fucking some of them are really pissed yes i need to twist off they wanted that regime change they they they fucking they felt it their boats they're still manufacturing it they're still saying they're still saying things like any day now come out into the streets this is our moment don't forget net njahou gave a special message on the day he launched operation rising lion he said this is your moment come out in the streets israel is with you san zendigi ozadi he gave the woman life freedom oh wow he gave that speech he gave it you know and i've spoken to women activists

inside the country and they've told me that that was the fucking nail on the coffin. Like these motherfuckers, like you kill movements, you know, with this type of support. Shut your fucking mouth. Like using our dead protesters

as a way for you to push for what you want in the country is so disgusting. Listen, I know that these people are a vocal minority. People inside the country don't buy this shit. Y'all are going to make me support the Mullahs up in here, up in here.

Also, I have to read I have to read a couple of tweets that I saw, you were just talking about the reactions, right? One of them was from Neoburg, this is a post of the New York Times strike set back Iran's nuclear

program only a few months U.S. report says, and now this, I was extremely depressed earlier today, but this news combined with Israel saying they're not done tells me there's still hope for my countrymen this fight isn't over and that's probably why Trump was so pissed off this morning

and it's like the level of like I was super depressed that we didn't go to war full on war but then I remembered oh Israel is a rabid dog and we'll probably continue trying to destabilize all of Iran

and it's 92 million inhabitants. And here is Elicas. Guys, you got to hear this. All right. When I immediately reacted to the ceasefire news, I had not consulted with or heard from a single Iranian. It was my knee-jerk reaction. Since then, I see Iranians are universally on the same page without having convened with each other. We all instantly got that drop in our stomachs, the instinct of knowing impending doom because we all understood exactly how this plays out. I've never ever been more terrified for Iranians. Did you see all the videos they posted screaming and celebration as they watched the IRGC strikes hit? Do you know how many of them must have collaborated with Mossad to pull

off many of these on the ground operations? Do you remember them screaming death to the dictator from their houses every night, they won't know who was involved. So there will be mass collective punishments. Truly, I am nauseous. I don't understand a word of that. What she's saying. What she's saying is that with the ceasefire, the fact that they did not remove the Ayatollah, they did not do regime change. It means all of the people who she is claiming were going on social media celebrating collaborating with Mossad they are now all in danger

she's saying we have to kill him now because of the fact that I've been posting videos of Iranians who were like collaborating with Mossad which I'm just like in what world

is the threat to Iranians greater if they don't destabilize the regime. You know what I mean? It's like the regime being destabilized is not good for Iran. Them doing a regime change war, a long bloody war with Iran is a thousand times worse for the most amount of Iranians. And she's basically being like, but what about all the collaborators? Yeah, we have too much exposure on this.

Let me say some. Someone, Newka, Israel nuke us now because they're going to. Let me say something about elika or alika no one else your name something happened during these 12 days that was very revealing about this charlatan and her bullshit story about her family being persecuted in iran and having to leave and all that she pointed out to people that her family is actually inside iran and she's very worried about them now she's built her whole following around the fact that she was persecuted by the Iranian government. And it's utter bullshit. This is an ambulance chaser from Pepperdine University. Because for some reason, reason wedged herself into our community and has become a voice.

I cannot tell the two of you how painful it is for me to see the following that this person, has, even outside of Orange County, which is where she crept up and fucking came out of this cave. The oozed from when she came. Exactly. Like, it is so painful. It's, it's, it's, it's actually makes my spleen hurt. Yeah.

I mean, just, I, I can't imagine the, I don't know, it's like the chutzpah to talk. about how scary it is for Iranians that Israel has stopped bombing, you know, or that Israel could stop bombing, or that America could not help out with more bombing. Like, the idea that that is scary for all of the Mossad collaborators that she knows, to me, that's on a whole, it's a whole other level of delusion where you are truly- We woke up in a panic this morning. The ground was no longer shaking. I turned to my grandmother who said what will become of us

I mean you talk about Chayel's like Western like chauvinism what a fucking pitch perfect example than Elica Le Bonn there just being like do you realize how scary this is let's call her real name huh call me by my name it's Elica Mojta Head Zadee

Yeah that's right Well she's Lebonne now That means the good in French Lebon Lebon Simon Lebon and Yazzo husband's daughter. Yes, yes, as she would like to be known. But she is not. Is she actually a Le Bonn? Is that? No, okay. I just want to make sure. That's her stage name. That's her stage name. That's her singing name. La Bonbon. She's a nice little, she's a little, she's a tasty little chocolate. But it didn't work out. Well, auto tune kept giving out on. Hey, listen, I understand that. Some of us, some of us had careers that veer into territory they never once

thought they would. So, Samaria, let me follow up on something you said. It's it sounds like the insipiate I mean, look as in any healthy society, there are there are groups and movements

within that society that don't like the people who were running that society. That's just a function of, that's true in Canada, that's true in United States, that's true in France, in everywhere in the world, including in Iran, and the West has made a lot of hay and a lot of hype about the women life freedom movement and glommed onto it as a pretext for us doing whatever we already wanted to do, having nothing to do with women's freedoms. You sense that,

am I hearing you right, that you sense that Israel and America's actions over the past 12 days have steeled iranians against trusting western solidarity with their women life freedom movement absolutely listen this is something people need to understand iranians maybe not won't don't like their government but they love their country and it this is a huge miscalculation on the part of america and israel in thinking that people are going to come out the fucking street to go we love israel but they did i saw the video it's real it's never going to happen that'll never happen that is a delusion if change is going to come to iran it will only come at the hands of iranians there was an actual there in the women's section of evan prison um the women prisoners

put out a um a letter a couple days after israel started bombing and saying saying, we don't want this. We don't need this type of saving. This is not what we're looking for. And they called people who were hoping for Israel and America to keep doing what it's doing, traitors. And we will never, ever forgive you. And these are women in jail. Yeah. Okay. People need to really wake the fuck up. This is a fantasy. Iran is not Iraq. It is a population of 90 million people. It is the of fucking Western Europe. If you're not prepared to put 10,000 boots on the ground, you're not going anywhere.

You know how I know, you know how I already knew the population? No. Ted Cruz taught me. Thank you, Mr. I took Ted Cruz's population tables masterclass. Population tables of countries I want to overthrow masterclass. Who the fuck thought we would be here with Tucker Carlson now?

I know. I know. we we got a we we got to talk about that but first let's take a break we're going to take a quick break and listen to whatever advertisements uh that i'm certain are good and then i'm going to go listen to this he's going to listen to that album and everyone please stick around we'll be right back here with Samira Moyaddin. How you doing? Good. Perfect. Good, good, good. Wonderful. Everything's great. The Jack is flowing. Jack's hitting. It's hidden. It's hot in Toronto as it is here in New York. It was 40 degrees. God damn. That's fair. That's Celsius there, Matt. That is Celsius. How am I going to do

that math? That's like, what does that mean in in American? Like 103, 104. Yeesh. God damn. It's hot here in LA, but it's like, I think 85 or something, which I don't like. But we were talking before the break about a moment with Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz, which I think, you know, took us all by not surprised because Tucker Carlson has been kind of veering into the territory of going like, I don't know, it seems kind of like Israel's bad sometimes. And now he's actually holding dirt bags like Ted Cruz accountable, and I just have to play a little bit of this clip. Living around, by the way. I don't know the population.

At all? No, I don't know the population. You don't know the population in the country you seek to topple? How many people living around? 92 million. Okay. Yeah. How could you not know that?

I don't sit around memorizing population tables. well it's what is this between two ferns also like there's something about Tucker Carlton's like fake incredulity that is kind of funny where he's hilarious he does that whole thing about Genesis too are you going to play that yeah well oh sure we will if that's in this clip then yeah it's not in this one

it's a different one okay why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million why is that relevant if you don't know anything about the country I didn't say I don't know anything about that. Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia. They're definitely Iranian. If I know one thing about...

They're Persian, that Persian. They're Persian. And they're Shias as opposed to the Sunnis, which is something he probably learned after the invasion of Iraq. I learned that from memory. Yeah. yeah i i watched a lot of memory videos you don't know anything about iran so okay i am not the the Tucker carlson expert on iran you're a senator who's calling you're the one who claims

you're the one who claims you're the one who claims they're not trying to murder don't trump you know i'm not saying that who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill general solomani you don't believe they're trying to murder trump yes i do because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe that. We're carrying out military strikes today. You said Israel was. Right. With our help.

I said we, Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, this, you're breaking news here because the US government last night denied the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all. We're not bombing them. You just said we were. We are supporting Israel. The Royal We.

If you're saying the United States government is it has a And we're with a rock right now. People are listening. It is. It is like watching that is just to me there's so, I have so many feelings about it. Because number one, as someone who's watched like Tucker Carlson for a long time on Fox News and seen the type of propaganda that he has done throughout his entire career. I remember him on CNN. Oh, yes. Crossfire.

Yeah, he was on Crossfire. he played the guy with a bow tie who was a neocon. Then they got him on Fox and he was like, oh, I'm the non-neocon but, you know, great white replacement theory guy. And actually John Stewart really rose to

his star rose when he humiliated both him and his parodian. He kept saying, do your jobs. Yes. And so like watching him knowing he has is like before the, you know, Zionist started creating the like clip compilations of all the times he is called iran like the greatest threat or blah blah blah blah blah i was like yeah i i've known that he has been hawkish for a good

portion of his career that being said the fact that he first of all credit where credit is due he fucking creams ted cruz in that exchange and in that interview in general um and if there are people who are mad about that in a way that is like understandable. I also end someone who is deeply mistrustful of Tucker Carlson and believes him to be in many ways a psychopath in most ways just someone who wants everyone to like him. But if your issue is, oh, well, I can't give him credit for this because, you know, like he is bad. It's like take that up with literally any other voice in mainstream media who is not doing

these types of interviews. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's actually shitty that it has to be Tucker Carlson because psychopaths like Jake Tapper and Dana Bash. And I'm sorry, but even people who are like better on this like a Chris Hayes or whatnot, get the interview and hold people's feet

to the fire. This is not hard. It's only hard if you're someone who doesn't have a fucking backbone and now you've ceded that ground to Tucker Carlson. That's not on him. That's on you. Part of the reason he can do it now

is he's out of the corporate mainstream because he got fired from Fox News for being anti-regime change. war for for for was that why he was fired i think there was it was it was about it was around something to do with foreign policy yeah i forget the exact issue yeah but it was it was it was contiguous it was it was ukraine that's what it was he was spending too much time interviewing people like my brother on his show and speaking out against why are we financing a war that is contesting

who's going to rule the province of Donetsk and Lugonkst or whatever in eastern Ukraine? Why are we spending billions and billions of dollars when our roads are falling apart in the opioid crisis and all the stuff? And he was trying to, it was a sort of true mega America first ethos. And Fox News said, fuck you, you're not doing that on our airwaves. And so he went off and did, he's doing this on his own. Yeah. And, and you know, it's, again, it's, I say,

this all with for me a complete understanding of what Tucker Carlson is, at least what kind of animal he is. And I'm sorry, the blame falls on mainstream media's complete inability and mainstream journalists who have the access, their complete inability to speak honestly and coherently about all of the war-mongering psychopaths in their midst who support Israel to the ends of the earth because of scripture and whatnot. Oh, my God. Speaking of which. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Samir, you mentioned that Genesis moment. Do we have that matter or should we just recap it? You have it? I have to get it. But even if you don't, I can do it for you because at one point, he says, you know, those who support Israel will go to heaven. Those who bless Israel will be blessed. will be blessed. Those who curse Israel will be cursed. That's in the Bible.

And Tucker says to him, Israel. What do you mean by Israel? Is that the state? Is that what Netanyahu's regime? And he says, look, I don't know. And he says, where is that? Where is that in the Bible? And Ted Cruz says, I don't know. You know, and he right away, he's like, it's in Genesis. Tucker is like, it's in Genesis. Yeah, but then he keeps going. And he's like. Ola, I have to play it. He goes, wait a second. You mean the Bible says we have to support the state of Israel? Yeah. There it is Sunday school. I was taught from the Bible. Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I want to be on the blessing side of thing.

Of those who bless the government of Israel? Those who bless Israel is what it says. It doesn't say the government of it. It says the nation of Israel. So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that. Where is that? I can find it to you.

I don't have the scripture off the tip of mind. You pull out the phone and it's in Genesis. So you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have context for it and you don't know where in the Bible it is, but that's like for theology? I'm confused. What does that even mean? Tucker.

I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're talking about. Where does my support for Israel come from, number one? Because biblically, we are commanded to support Israel. But number two. Hold on. No, no, no. Hold on.

You're a senator and now you're throwing a theology. And I am a Christian. I am allowed to weigh in on this. We are commanded as Christians to support the government of Israel. We are commanded to support. Israel and we're told we're told those who bless Israel will be blessed but what hold on define Israel this is important are you kidding this this majority Christian country define Israel could do you not know what Israel is I that would be the country you've asked like 49 questions about

so that's what Jenny bitch God is talking about the nation of Israel yes and he's soon is that the current borders the current leadership he's talking with the political entity called Israel he's talking about the nation of Israel yet nations exists and he's disgusting of Israel is the nation there the descent is the referring to in Genesis, is that the same as the country run by Benjamin Netanyahu right now? It's just it's delicious. It's wonderful to watch

a Christian Zionist like Ted Cruz sweat because, and it just goes to show how little pushback any of these motherfuckers have ever gotten because of the fact that you are being confronted with something that is completely ridiculous for you to defend, which is

I support Israel because Bible says I should support Israel. That's all you need. Look, God is a realtor. I don't know if you need this, but God is a realtor. God's my landlord. He takes no commission. And what I most want to know, though,

is when Ted Cruz is going to come out of the closet. I know. When is that going to happen? Whenever Lindsay Graham tells them they're ready. Yeah, and they're going to walk out hand and aunt. The most shocking part of that interview, though, was when Ted Cruz freely admitted why he got into politics.

Oh, I don't remember that. Well, we don't need to go searching for this, but I'll just tell you. He says, I got into politics. I joined the Senate in the 1980s or something like that, 36 years ago or whatever. Why? For one reason, I wanted to be the most pro-Israel senator.

Yes. I wanted to be the biggest supporter of it. And then a few minutes later, he asks, why he's so obsessed with Israel, yeah, you know, and he, and Tucker says, I am in, I am in no way obsessed with Israel. You're the one who just got done telling me that you're in U.S. politics to protect the interests of a foreign government. And then, and then Cruz says, well, you know, I'm just, it's so strange to me why you're so obsessed with, with, with, this idea

that the Jews control everything. And Tucker says, you're not going to smear me as an anti-Semma right now to deflect from my questions. And Cruz is like, I didn't do that. He says, yes, you did. And now in your sleazy feline way, you're denying that you're calling me in your sleazy feline way, which is funny because he does, like Ted Cruz does have like resting cat who ate your pet bird face. Yeah, like if the Cheshire cat's like, like intellectually compromised younger brother

could flop sweat all over the place. Right, exactly. Like he can't even, you can't even smile. He looks like he has. tweety bird in his mouth at all moments like if he turned at you you'd be like open up and then he would spit out an actual live bird

but yeah watching you know watching that it was delicious to watch Ted Cruz sweat and honestly you know credit it was so good to watch it was fun and and he was asked questions that

honestly you know you don't have to be an intellectual powerhouse to ask the questions that Tucker Carlson was asking. So if you're mad that Tucker Carlson got to be the one to ask the real questions, you should

really be yelling at people who go on fucking CNN every single day with these psychopaths or go on Fox News with these psychopaths or whatever. Face the nation. Yes. Yeah. Maybe ask

a real goddamn question about Israel for once. You've got that. It's not called smooch the nation. Yes. I just like... It's not called suck face with the nation. I just can't. I can't stand, you know, the fact that all of this ground is seated to right-wing pundits. Like the fact that the right-wing pundits are the ones who get to do this.

Well, to say nothing of the fact that speaking up vociferously and on first principles against going and bombing a foreign country is left to people like Marjorie Taylor Green I mean literally she put out the best tweet about this her tweet about it was better than AOCs

it was better than Bernie's what are they doing they're saying oh he didn't have congressional authorization he must be impeached for this decorum rules norms Senate parliamentarian and norms

and it's like fucking morals guys and MTG is talking about you know she's the fucking Jewish space lasers lady Don't let these guys flank you. Are you kidding me?

This is what happens when you privilege. Yes. Access. Yes. And acceptability. Yes. Access to power if you're a journalist. You know, proximity to power.

Yeah, go ahead, Samar. There's a level of cowardice in journalism right now that I don't think existed in the 80s and 70s. It's a real, it's a problem. Like, Israel hasn't just killed 200 Palestinians. Indian journalists. They've literally killed journalism. Yeah. Over the past 21 months. There's no credibility left to this.

Yes. Yes. 100%. 100%. They've killed journalism. They haven't just done fucking, you know, they haven't just broken international laws. They've broken international law. It's like all of these institutions,

whether it's journalism, the international community, international law, All of it is just being stomped on and shitted on. And the fact is, is that someone's got to do some version of either holding them accountable illegally or some version of pushing back against it as psychopathic Christian Zionist, who's like, because the Bible tells me so, it's just, it's infuriating. It's no longer, it really is no longer about left and right anymore. it's about it's about forward Andrew Yang sorry it's about alignment with and

proximity to power versus you know being willing to get in the face of power and hold it in contempt yeah isn't that a song as the Bible tells me so 100% Jesus loves me this I know oh yes before the Bible tells me so that's it that's a crazy song Jesus loves me because I know all these Christian songs You know when we first moved here to Canada From Iran It was in 1979

And there was a disco version Of our father who art in heaven And they would play it over the PA system In school And it was fucking rolling You know I was in a punk band And we did a punk version of that song Wow

And but we changed the lyric It was our father who aren't in heaven Oh I thought you were going to say Who Are in hell we were we were an atheist bunk bet but yeah uh before we go i just want to um play one more thing uh this has been widely widely shared um by the a bunch of Zionists um it is uh the Washington Post was able to obtain some audio yeah of the Mossad making threatening phone calls to Iranian general um telling them uh that they should either need to leave um or we will kill your family and and forcing them to make like like a video defecting yes make a video defecting and i would

make a video defecating if they had a letter i'd see they're defecting and raise them an and it's it's it's kind of nuts audio i've a couple of different ones because they had a few of but yeah it is it's it's wild uh they're in persian yeah and they're in persian so i'll do well one's in persian one's in english here's the person all right do you do you want to be one of them do you want to be uh the next one on the list this is he's threatening the the deep voice you hear is masad um do you want us to destroy your wife and child You have 12 hours to make a video saying we have walked away from this government and we are unwilling to sacrifice our lives.

How shall I send it to you? I will send you a telegram ID, send it. So I just like the idea. It's like we are Israeli, so of course we are on telegram. That sounds like BB putting his own voice through a Persian filter. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's the thuggery. It's the, you know, people don't understand this. It doesn't sound heroic to you, Samira.

You don't hear that as heroic? People, Israel operates like a mafia state. That's exactly how they operate. We will kill your wife and children. Why don't you put a horse's head somewhere? Like, this is what they do. And they've done it forever. Listen, I just returned from a place called Lillehammer Norway.

Oh, yeah. a week and a half ago. You know who started a movie involving a mafia person who moves to, or not a movie, a television show, Matt, this is for you. Steve Van Zan. Steve Van Zan from The Sopranos and Bruce Springsteen's East Street Band. Go ahead, Samira. Do you know what I found out while I was there?

That in 1976, Israel killed a waiter who was walking home with his pregnant wife from a movie theater. they shot him thinking that he was one of the people that did the Munich hostage taking in 1972 and do you know who this guy is he is the brother of the lead singer of the fucking gypsy kings oh shit please Google Lillehammer affair it will blow your mind they killed this man in cold blood while his pregnant wife watched and then they paid the wife $108,000. I guess the song Bambolaleo makes a lot more sense to me now.

Bomb Israel. They mistook this poor men. Those motherfuckers killed my brother in cold blood. Oh, man. That is absolutely wild. I mean, and just hearing people celebrate these things. That's the thing. The way that this was being spread by.

The celebratory, yeah. Yeah, they were going, whoa, check this out. This is wild. This is so cool. And I was like, this is what villains do. Why are people acting like this is anything but that? And it's just this obsession that I think in the 90s,

the something brothers, the prank calls. Oh, the crank anchors. No, no, no, no, jerky boys, jerky boys. Jerky boys. Yeah. Smasad. Yeah.

They're just the jerky boys of international politics. Check this out. I really got them good on this one. Yeah. We've got your wife locked up. We have videos of you with, the senator's daughter well there's

more here's another call and this one for some reason was in English I don't know if you guys heard this one yet but this one here's the other one right here is this general yes very nice it is me

Mossad and I called you because we're going to kill your wife and your child unless you may a TikTok where you tell the peoples that you no longer support the regime. If you don't make video, I will call the US and I to make bombings happen.

Please remember, we are doing this because we are the good guys. Thank you. that was excellent that was a beautiful beautiful message um we don't know who that operative was we believe he may have been of kazakistani there were no defense corporal yagshamash none no defections no defections that's 100% right that is like one of the the more interesting things about it is like i'm listening to those phone calls and i'm like okay fine i'll do it like i i the fact that no not a single person defected and made one of these videos, you know, that they were requesting. It's just like, and I don't even know if they were truly expecting it.

I do have to interject and say something here because the IRGC does exactly this to people. Exactly what was just done, what we heard, is exactly what the IRGC does to their political dissidents. They don't say we're going to kill your wife and children, but they say things. like stop, you know, posting about so and so, or we're going to hurt blah, blah, blah, or we're going to put you in jail or we're going to do this. And they also take away people's entire Instagrams, like they'll disappear. Right, right, right. What's so fucked up and really interesting about all of this is the way that these two

operate in exactly the same way for me. It's wild how similar Israel and Iran actually are. Why can't you just love one another? that's what Trump's trying to do Samira she's trying to get them to get together and kiss if they were honest they wouldn't they'd admit it's not about regime change it's about regime replacement that's right we want to get in there and do what they're doing yeah because we admire them so much they need hormone therapy that's what they need honestly I truly do believe I I truly do believe that there is a weird Zionist obsession with Iran based on some sort of like ethno-nationalist like insecurity. I don't know. They just want Persian cock.

I'm not sure if you've seen that, Daniel Spalding. When you're a power gay. Oh, yeah. You know, that, I mean, that's a whole other episode that does. Oh, yeah. No, he made a bunch of videos in the last few days that have been insane. But yeah, we have so much to catch up on, especially with Matt having been away. But even if you had been here, Matt, like, it's been an insane couple of weeks.

Yes, there's so much. And, you know, just to end this on a note that I think is important, which is not to say that the entire so far, like this Iran affair, whatever is going on at the time that this episode comes out, is still going to be going on. And it could be worse and worse, I fear for it. At the same time, while this was happening, Israel has been doing a really great job at changing the narrative about what people are talking about. Because while this has been happening, there have been murders happening all over in Gaza, specifically these food murders in which people will be lining up to get aid and being killed by the dozen. dozens killed by Israeli fires. They sought desperately needed aid in Gaza. Gaza Health Authority says 44 waiting for aid.

Israel kills 44 waiting for aid. Like just constant stories. And these are on different days. These are different events. Hundreds. The day we're recording this, you know, between dawn and noon, they had killed 132 or something like that. And I want to say what? It's just like one of the, in a way, benefits of doing this podcast, not as a live stream,

but as something we do a couple times a week, is that we don't get caught up into the churn of the Hezbara. Because a lot of the point of the Hezbara is not necessarily to be believed, but to be talked about. Exactly. And to take up the airspace so that you are now talking about this instead of the current and active genocide that is happening. happening and the atrocious war crimes that we've been seeing, you know, kind of like sidelines because all we're used to them. This is new, bombing. It's all normalized now. Yes.

Like people walking to death distribution centers and, you know, flower mixed with blood. I mean, this is, what we're watching is, it's unfathomable. It's unfathomable. And I'd like to, there's part of me that goes like, I'd like to believe. that if this, you know, trade of fire between Iran and Israel wasn't happening, these would be headlines. But at this point, you know, I don't know, I don't know. This is what Netanyahu did that was so brilliant, this war of distraction.

Yes, 100%. And that's the trick and the trap with, even with a show like this, like we call it Bad Hasbara and we drill down on all the ridiculous things about it. But the detail, like when Aaron was on last week, when my. brother was on when you were away, Matt. I played him the Alon Levy thing, you know, about the hospitals and Danny Danone and all that shit. Because here we get into the comedic weeds of how ridiculous they are. And his reaction really, I found very sobering. I mean, it wasn't a very funny reaction. He wasn't in a very light mood, understandably. But he's like, yeah, I just can't

laugh at this stuff anymore because what he recognized is as absurd and comical as each of these characters are, the function of them is to distract us from the unfathomable and really un laughable. I mean, the horror is to end all humor that are happening every minute of every day. Every time we record this, every time we release this, every time you subscribe, every time you listen to this, every time we, we sleep, we shower, we eat, everything we're doing, it's happening, you know? Yeah. And the badness of the Hasbara, we have to.

to laugh at it to keep ourselves sane, but we don't have to fall into the traps set by them, which is to constantly, you know, put us in on the defensive and going like, well, you know, as, you know, Muhammad Al-Kurd said, you know, the need to debunk is part of the strategy. But that said, playing the game, not falling into these traps of playing the game. You know, I've become very aware of that. And not forgetting what's really going. Yeah. Yeah.

But that being said, it was incredibly necessary that we did this episode because we needed to find out, you know, what was going on in the whole Middle East. And we could not have asked for a better guest, especially given that neither of us have slept were each in totally different time zones. I'm just off a plane. And Samaria, you brought such great. energy and exactly the right you know you are you are one of those guests that if we ever needed uh have to have a third chair yeah i was gonna say i can't use that joke anymore but you know some some kind of competition to fill the third chair you'd be hard to beat oh thank you so much that means a lot where can people find your work in the gutter no i uh you can find me i have a

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