Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - 121: Galactify The Intifada, with Pallavi Gunalan

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by comedian Pallavi Gunalan to check out the continued hysterical Democratic meltdown over Zohran Mamdani featuring Eric Adams, Hakeem Jeffries, and Kirsten Gillibrand, and the best thing to happen at Glasto since me wellies woz properly chuffed, innit?Please donate to Islamic Relief USA: https://irusa.orgFind Pallavi Gunalan at https://www.instagram.com/pallavigunalan/See Francesca Fiorentini and Matt Lieb!July 5 in Pasadena, CA: https://www.showclix.com/event/New-World-Disorder-07-05-25-9-30-pmAugust 1 in Seattle, WA: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/comedians-francesca-fiorentini-and-matt-lieb-tickets-1354093864199August 28 in Houston, TX: https://bit.ly/mattfranhtxSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraWhat’s The Spin playlist: https://spoti.fi/4kjO9tLSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get your podcasts.Spotify https://spoti.fi/3HgpxDmApple Podcasts https://apple.co/4kizajtSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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learning that it wasn't true. Yes, knowing but still saying. And what is podcasting, but saying whatever, whatever you want at any point, whether it's about news or about music. Speaking of music, Daniel, what is this spin? Well, the better question would be,

Cuella spin, lo, because what I have behind me, is all the Canadian albums. Because tomorrow, on the day we are recording, this. Tomorrow is Canada Day. Wow. And I picked, in fact, these are all the Canadian albums I could find, and here is a few more. Wow, look at that. You got men without hats there. That's right, the safety dance, which is a song about trying to cater to Jewish feelings. That's right. That's right. You can dance if you want to. You can dance, you can dance again. We will dance. We will dance. We will dance. We will.

We'll dance, we'll dance again on your graves. Yeah, I got the Canadian punk band, D-O-A. I got Annihilator, a Vancouver thrash metal band. Loverboy working for the weekend, the band, Daniel Enois. Yeah. But I've got some actual albums right here. Those are your wall picks. That's the wall ones.

This is the real. So here we have Gowan, Larry Gowan. Okay. Who had some big radio hits in Canada in the 80s, including the title song, Strange Animal. You're a Strange Animal. Fantastic song. Sort of an anthropological look at the strange species that is human.

Very nerdy. Sure. Pop song. I got Rush here, of course. Of course. From Toronto. And this album, moving pictures, has Tom Sawyer. Tom Sawyer and Y, Y, Y, Z, named after the Toronto airport code.

Lee Getty, baby. That's right. Getty Lee. Which one is it? Neil Pert, Alex Lifeson. Chilliwack, named after a suburb of Vancouver, where I'm from. And you may not know this band. but you may know their hit song, My Girl, Gone, Gone, Gone So Long.

A gone, gone, gone, she'd been gone so long. She's been gone, gone, gone, so long. You don't know this song? Talking about my girl. Different My girl. My girl. Anyway, if you really want to hear the best version of this song, go on YouTube, look up SCTV, John Candy, Eugene Lovie, and Rick Moranis as the sort of teen high school talent show band,

The Recess Monkeys, playing a great version of Chilowax, My Girl. It's one of my favorite 80s songs. of all time. I love it. Bruce Coburn, Stealing Fire, fantastic, incredible guitarist and singer-songwriter, Lovers in a Dangerous Time, one of the most beautiful pop songs of all-time, and the song, If I had a rocket launcher, which I did a cover of. If I had a rocket launcher, if I had a rock-dib-diby, yub-diby-dib-dib-bub-dibum. Right, exactly. That's how it goes, man. No, it's all about imperialism, and it's about wanting to take. In fact, it's basically

death, death, the IDF, circa 1984. He says, when I talk to the survivors with tales too sickening to relate, if I had a rocket launcher, I would not hesitate. And the final line of the song is, if I had a rocket launcher, some son of a bitch would die. And this was a radio hit on Canadian and to a lesser extent, US radio in 1984. It's about Guatemala and the Contras in Nicaragua and U.S. imperialism. Wow.

That's what we used to, this is what we threw away, folks. Man, used to be a proper country. The tragically hit fully completely. this is the group that when their lead singer Gord Downey died of a brain tumor a few years ago, Justin Trudeau cried in front of the country. Oh, man. And a couple of groups that may not enjoy being lumped in with Canada Day because of their identities and political commitments. A tribe called Red with their album, We Are the Hallucid Nation, Indigenous Canadian techno hip-hop group, absolutely incredible music, perfect album. Most Def, Yassine Bay, and Yassine Narsi.

Narcy Nars on Instagram, both feature on this album. I don't know, Yassine Arcee. His real name is Yassine. He goes by The Narcissist. Narsie, he's incredible, and they have an incredible track on here. Saul Williams is also on here. Okay. And then finally, the Quebec separatist, Gilles Vinyo,

with Gé Plante a Chen, which is a, he's a great songwriter, actually, great Quebeco songwriter, total separatist, hated Canada. He's still alive, probably still hates Canada. I love that there's separatism. I forget, you know, we don't have enough separatists in the United States, you know, we need to have, like, and I feel like the people who, like, the only separatists we have are trying to just restart the civil war. And I feel like, uh, yeah, separatists is too cool of a name to give.

Secessionists. Yeah, there's secessionists. Exactly. Nah, but I want like separatists, like someone guy, you know, who's like, nah, San Jose is mine. Well, there are some people who think that the West Coast, the Pacific Northwest, including British Columbia, should secede from Canada and the U.S. respectively and become Cascadia. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Cascadia. That's a pretty good name, too. It is. Our guest, Pahlavi, went into the private chat and pulled an Adam Levin by writing separatists, but equalists. Which, I mean, that is, that's too perfect. I feel like, that's what the spin is.

You heard the spin. Shout out to all of those. wonderful artists and of course go to Spotify. You'll see the Spotify playlist in the description don't work my corner, palvi. So now it is time

for us to introduce our wonderful guest. Ladies and gentlemen, we are so happy to introduce a hilarious stand-up comedian. I know her. I love her. Soon you will know her and love her. We just worked with Bassam Yusuf over at the San Jose

Improv and lived to tell the tale ladies and gentlemen and everyone else welcome to the podcast Pallavi gonna la gunnallan fuck me gonna gala Pallavi gonna fuck this up

Pahlavi not gonna work here anymore Hey it's me a fellow Zionist here Trying to do my best Israeli accent I'm walking over here I'm walking over here I'm walking over grades will be it.

How you doing, Palavit? I'm good. I had such a fun weekend with you in Bassem. It was so great. It was really fun. Yeah, we were over at the San Jose Improv, and we did four shows. Bassam's working on a new hour, and, yeah, we got to open for him and his audience. Great audiences in San Jose.

There are a lot of fun. San Jose's a weird town. Sorry. I was like interrupting. Please interrupt. So I'm going to colonize your time. Please colonize. Do a settlement.

Was like great too. He was I would love to settle on your time. Bossam was great too. He was so chill and like down to earth and like just a wonderful guy to hang out with. So that was really fun. It was pretty sick. Matt was also there. I was there.

Yeah. Matt's good at that. Yeah. I can be there. You can be anywhere. You know what? I've never been. square never been square

more rectangular thank you thank you yes yes and me baby aren't squares are rectangles are rectangles are rectangles are rectangles technically yeah and they're also parallelograms I thought all squares were parallelograms yes speak so

Pala be gonna let Pellelalogram Ghanolan is your This is Bad Mathematica right now. Yes. First, tell our audience about yourself. Who are you? And what brings you to this world of Bad Hasbara?

I am a stand-up comedian. I used to be an engineer. If someone will give me a job, I'll do it again. But I feel like I've shot myself in the foot with all the comedy. Well, it's difficult, you know, to get like a job, job once you start going on bad as far. Sorry, I can't get this research done. I'm doing a podcast this morning. Oh, it's about Israel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How Israel is bad. Yeah. So, yeah, I've been doing stand-up for a long time. You're supposed to be building bridges, designing them, not burning them down to the ground. Yes. I know. But I don't know.

Matt, when did we meet? I feel like I met you and Francesco around the same time or something. Yeah, some time in the... But we've known each other for a while. Yeah, sometime in the last decade, you know, comedy is a small, it's a small community, only getting smaller. And by that, I mean... Pro-Palestine comedy is a very small community.

Yeah, there's like eight. There's eight comics. We all do the same shows. Pallavi, what was your, what was your first name before you changed it to yeah, to more pro-Palestinian? It was, uh, Palavi actually. Oh, excuse. So Paul, Paul, Pahlavi.

Yeah, yeah. You've corrected me on this maybe, uh, eight different times during the weekend and I still fucked it up. Paula Viganalan. The funniest was Bossum. Bossom was like, die. He could not say my name. I love him so much.

She could not say my name. Which made me feel better because I was just like, okay, see, it's not just like a white guy thing, you know. As long as you guys feel good and my name is wrong, then I'm like. Yeah, well, yeah, every time we fucked up, we would high five. Yeah. I'd be crying behind them and they'd just be like high fiving. Yeah, it was great. But yeah, so you are someone who, you know, in this, like I said, small community of people who once, you know,

post-October 7th did not shy away from actually posting about how Israel is doing bad things and actually not doing good things. And, you know, in comedy that is exceedingly rare, surprisingly. Yeah. What is what's the last, you know, 20 months been like? How are things? Bad. It's been very sad to watch. I may start. crying on this podcast, but I like, yeah, I think like I was one of those people where I'm just like continuously like learning more about the horrors of the world. And like you kind of, once you start pulling that thread, it's hard to go back, you know. And I feel like maybe like 10 years

ago, I didn't really know much about anything. I had, I had friends who would go who were very pro Israel and they would go to protest but they had like a vibe and I was like I don't know enough but this feels weird like you guys seem like a little too intense for me what were they protesting not enough Palestinians died that month yeah failure to meet quota yeah I know and I was also like why is this happening in Pittsburgh like I didn't understand yeah I didn't understand what was going I was very confused but I was also one of those people that was told that like like everyone that it was a complicated issue and it was too hard for me to understand and then i like remember hearing about like during the blm protests how like palestinians like helped

the protesters here like learn how to handle the police and stuff and i was like okay and then 2021 there was like another thing where i was online a lot and so i was like learning more but i think like once you just see everything, you know, right after October 7th, I was like, oh, this is bad. Like, yeah, there's clearly like a people that are suffering. And I don't want that to happen. So I was like reposting like Bissan and stuff. And then my whole feed just became the worst things I've ever seen in my whole life. And I was like, this is very obvious now. And I started reading more, um, brag. I read a little bit. Um, um, sometimes. And then I started like listening to, yeah, I read this podcast.

I'm reading both of you right now, bitches. Yeah. Exactly. It's like reading Playboy for for the articles, you know, it's like I watch. Yeah. I watch Bad As Bar for the articles. That's why. Yeah.

But yeah, I started realizing like we were, I did the separatist but equalist thing, but we kind of are like self-segregating into like pro-Palestine people and then like insane people. And so I just started listening to more of like the podcasts and the content and the people who were talking about it more and talking to people in real life who were reasonable and not falling for the propaganda and you just like learn more stuff. So that's why I'm here. I love it. I love it. And you know, we love our South Asian brothers and sisters.

And we're about to talk about one of the dopest out there. Yeah. I was like, when you started saying that, I was like, oh, my God, so many Hindu Indians are so embarrassing. Like, I'm just like, I'm like, you guys are so, like, pathetic. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah, you were talking about this in the green room. It was very funny.

You were mentioning you're like, I have, you said you have one cousin who's like super pro-Trump. Yeah. Yeah. He's like trying to get like Trump merch and I'm like, you already have Modi right there. Like, you can't even vote in this country. You have your own fascist. Like, just deal with that. I'm like, go back to your own fascist.

What are you doubling up on fascists for? What about in terms of like Zionism? Is that is that also something that you've seen at least from that member of your family or anyone else? I haven't, I feel like with Zionism, like my family hasn't really said anything or I haven't seen anything. I've also like not broached the topic with them because there's so much other shit in India. Like they're on the wrong side of the Kashmir issue. Like there's like, but I can tell from all of like these things that they're probably going to be on the wrong side of that. You know what I mean? And like given that they weren't questioning what the

Indian government was doing and the Indian and a lot of Indians were like, we're going to do to Kashmir what we did what Israel did to Palestine I'm like I feel like I know how you feel better to not interrogate just in case you have to start getting into a fight I've already I've already messed up the vibe of the cousins chat on WhatsApp enough times I've been a party pooper in there they're going to start another cousins group chat Sands Pahl of me I feel like they probably have since I've always been like this. I'm like, stop saying that. I'm so excited to visit you guys.

But we're going to talk about another South Asian brother who is a wonderful, wonderful, exciting new politician, which I say with the full caveat of going, politician is the important thing. I understand. I am a cynical person. I'm as cynical as all of you who are in the chat. And there's plenty of you who are cynical. I see you.

I hear you. Shut up. But we're talking about Zoran Mundani. What's that? What if I was like, I hate his politics, but I love his rap career. Exactly. Everything he's saying about no billionaires and, You know, intifada's gross.

But you know what I love? Hip hop. Hip hop coming from a... Yes. I love cardamum hive growing. Thank you, Adam. Yes. So, we talked a little bit about it on last week's bonus episode with Sammy

obeyed, but this mom, Donnie freak out. Yeah. He sure obeyed. He came on here and all he did was obey. That's very good. hot you got to you guys got to get on the fucking patreon to get that it was you yeah yeah that's that's the hotness you got to get on the patreon but we're going to talk a little more about it today because it hasn't died down the freakouts that we were talking about on that episode have only doubled

tripled quadrupled people are just getting more and more insane about zoron and the like i think one of the more troubling but completely expected aspects of this is how much of it is coming from the Democratic Party itself, which is the very party in which he won the primary to be on the Democratic ticket for mayor of New York. Yeah, it turns out this like whole vote blue no matter who. Sometimes the who does matter. At least...

I think when they say vote blue no matter who, they mean like what will make the most people the saddest. You know what I mean? Yes. Yeah, vote's sad no matter who you have. It's more like Winnie the Poohs. blue like the job like yore you know those are the vibes someone did a pretty funny simpson's meme with lionel huts you know rewriting his his business card so it says

you know i think homer says this card says vote blue no matter who and lionel huts is like oh that's a mistake and he crosses out and says vote blue question mark no exclamation mark matters who That's really good. I felt similar at the time when people were posting clips of Trump saying, you know, no new wars over and over again before bombing Iran. And she's going, no, comma, new wars. New wars.

America first question mark? Yeah. So there's been a bunch of freakouts. I mean, first and foremost, of course, you have, you know, starting with Eric Adams, the current mayor of New York. York who is. Oh, I thought you were going to say, I thought you were going to say the current mayor of Istanbul. I'm so sorry.

Yeah, sorry. Yes. The current mayor of Istanbul. Actually, funny, funny fact. I'm taking a week or so off after this episode to go do a canoe trip with two of my best friends on the occasion of our, uh, on the occasion of our, uh, it's us. Yeah, is it us? We're all turning 50 this year we met at university.

Anyway, I'm not one of them's name is Eric Adams. Really? Well, a bummer. Not a ball black man from New York. Yeah, yeah. But also loves, but also loves drowning rats and acid, actually. So that's pretty cool. All Eric Adams have the same hobbies.

Yeah. So Eric Adams went on CNN to talk about Zoron in a way that is, I mean, it's just beautiful because you could tell that he was not given, like he was. he was probably given a sheet of paper that said like points to hit and it was just one bullet point that just said Mamdani hate Jew and that's all the information

he came here with. And that's all Eric Adams needs. He is the best improv comic in politics right now. You give him any prompt and he will just spin out with some gonzo da-da-ish you know like fucking just absurdist free associate comedy that

makes Reggie Watts look conservative. We do need to put him on an improv team. Maybe that's all he needs. That's all he's ever really wanted is to own his own club and do improv in that club. We're like, I need a location

and he's like, Turkey. Yes. So here he is talking with Jake Tapper. What specifically has Mamdani said that you think is anti-Semitic? pro Hamas Hamas is a I'm sorry

did he say pro Hamas yeah like did someone ask him that was his exclamation point he was just like how he felt yeah pro Hamas it's like hey what are you what are you gonna what would you like to eat sir pro Hamas dangerous

terrorist organization that should be destroyed when you embrace the philosophies of Hamas Not only what they do to their own people, but what they did in Gaza to lift them up and praise them, I think that's a clear indicator that something is wrong with not only what they do to their own people, but what they did in Gaza. Right. He couldn't even remember, he doesn't even, he has no idea what he's talking about. He's flowing, bro. Let him flow.

I love that like as he's saying like this super Islamophobic thing, Mamdani is just looking like a little cutie and all of his. picture yeah i know he's got the uh sort of the what i would call the luigi mangioni thing where uh you you can say all of the most horrible shit you want about him in the news but if there's a picture of him on screen you're just kind of drawn to that picture and you're like oh what a handsome man that's all you can do so it's uh i like it's just his his

handsomeness undermines any of the Hasbara, it's kind of beautiful. The other thing that has in common with Mangione is they both murked a very powerful man in public. That's right. Somebody's going to clip that and Eric Adams is going to comment on it.

For sure. You're going to get clipped. When did he praise Thomas? I don't recall him ever praising Kamas. There's several videos even during his days of being a rap artist of praising Hamas and other terrorist groups. And so a little research, you'll be able to find it.

But I'm not, I'm not competing against him only for what he's done and praising Hamas. In his rap. So funny. My name is Mom Doni, and I'm here to say, I like Hamas in every way. He definitely did that. Yeah. Eric Adams

like not even doing the you know enough research in order to properly smear him is totally fine Adam says Hamas won't be my boss at the workplace of success

that's right all my haters will be my waiters go ahead sorry I'm I think I have Sharia Wi-Fi in here right now I don't know what's happening but but I love

love how Jake Tapper is, like, pretending to do journalism for, like, half a second. Right. He's like, wait, what would? He's kind of scared of it. You know, he's just like, but did he actually say it? And, like, he's doing it because he knows he needs to push back on that, but he's, like, desperately hoping that Eric Adams is going to come with receipts. And, of course, he does not.

He's like, actually, I did a bit of research, and I have these flyers where his beard looks huge so maybe you could talk about that yeah could you just show this picture of him uh looking like jafar just so people can associate you know if he if they associated him with jafar all of us would be like oh my god queer icon we love is jafar a queer icon oh my god like you don't know the Disney villain, queer icon situation? No, I do not. They're all gay. Scar, favorite gay uncle.

Love him. Wait, he's, but no, he's in love with, isn't he in love with Jasmine? Jafar? I guess he's, like, he, like, she's his bestie. Like, come on. I guess Jafar is mostly just trying to.

You will marry me and become my beard. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That's crazy. We need a queer Hasbara episode. Yeah. The last episode I used, I brought out all queer performers for the, what's the spin? Because it's Pride Month.

That's right. I will tokenize anybody. That's right. Daniel will do anything for woke points. No, but like the Eric Adams coming in with absolutely nothing is like, that's, all he needs to do. He doesn't need to actually, you know, have anything to say on him other than, like, what the talking point is, which is, oh, remember, he is Hamas. He loves Hamas. That's all he. Eric Adams, like, prep is he, like, walks on stage and behind the camera, there's, like, Trump's judges just going like this. And then, like, threatening him. And then he's like, okay, I guess I'm just going to riff on this for a while. I'm just going to have some fun. You know, it would be really funny if Eric Adams was like, Um, you know, Tapper says, where is this video of him saying he loves Hamas? Eric, I said, do just do a little research.

You just go to a site called Grock and just type in Zoran Mamdani saying, Zoran, I'm sorry. My Dick, Nidiki hard for Hamas. My Dick Yard for Hamasi-Wasi. There will be it, there will be a video right there. And he also has three arms. I love Eric Adams is. Eric Adams is 100% a guy who in real life goes, at Grock, is this real?

Like, and he's like, he's talking about his love affair with Grock. He's like, at GROC, what are we? Yeah, he was so fall in love with GROC. I know I said, I don't like labels. But what is this? Is it going anywhere? Someone pointed out something that I thought was great just to show the Democratic Party's absolute commitment.

to, you know, their values. Someone wrote, this is from austerity is left at Wide of the Post, wrote, slight difference in how Democrats reacted to Eric Adams, scraping through by 1% in the eighth round of ranked choice versus Zoron, comprehensively retiring a dynastic four-term governor, former governor, see if you can spot it. And it's just a picture of Eric Adams and Nancy Pelosi standing together with the Washington penis monument in the background. Shortly after his victory, I mean. Yeah, immediately after. Immediately after Eric Adams was, people were like,

this is the model, this is how we win, which was so funny because he, like, win in the most air quotes, the motherfucker barely scraped by. And people were like, he's definitely the next president. As if, like, he was somehow, you know, just like, just, carried in on a landslide of public support. I mean, I don't think the Democrats are known for, like, loving overachievers. Like, they're like, we like it when we just barely get another $5 for the next campaign.

We, what we want to do is lose. So that's why we like Eric Adams, he's someone who loses or gets very close to losing, whereas Zoran seems like someone who would win. So let's go after him. Yeah. And you're seeing this from, like, a bunch of people. You've got, Hakeem Jeffries went on to talk about him as well. And I'm just going to play this because it's more of the same.

You mentioned the diversity of your district, including a lot of Jewish constituents. Mamdani has made comments that some have said veered towards anti-Semitism. His initial statement after October 7th, he criticized the Israeli government but didn't criticize Hamas. He defended the use of the word globalized of the phrase globalize in Tefatta. And he even said that the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu should be arrested. Or he would if he were mayor. He would arrest Netanyahu if he visited New York City. What is out of the blue idea. Yeah, that's crazy.

So is the ICC. Right. Yeah, I love that. It's just like, damn, where'd you come up with such a crazy thought, Zoran? Oh, is it? I'm sorry, the voters of New York. York City did not vote for the ICC to be mayor of our city. That's right. So sorry. That's right. If they want the ICC to be mayor, they should vote for, oh, wait, they're voting for months. They're un-elected. That's right. They're already doing it. Globalizing the antifada by way of example is not an acceptable phrasing. He's going to have to clarify his position on that as he moves forward. With respect to the Jewish communities that I represent,

I think our nominee is going to have to convince folks that he is prepared to aggressively address the rise in anti-Semitism. I think he did. I think he did that. He literally did that. I think he won your district, Hakeem. Yes. And this is like the most infuriating thing about that is like they keep actor like, you know, if he wants to win, he's going to have to convince Jewish voters. And he's like, did he not already convince Jewish voters who voted in the primary?

like at this point you're just like you're stoked that there's another election that's all this is you're he they're talking about Jewish voters in Israel okay they're not necessarily talking that's right he's going to have to convince that I I'm so sorry it is so embarrassing how afraid of Arabic these people are they're like no more algebra okay that is that's an intifada if you really think about it I wasn't great at math That's my personal intifada. They're not even going to sell for tattas anymore because it sounds too close. I know.

If they're going to hear like the, they're going to hear it. No more infant. No more infant anything. Yeah. More infant formula. Yes. Yeah. Anything that sounds too close is out.

Yeah, it is. It's crazy watching him sit here as if they already didn't vote for him in the primary. And he won by a landslide. Has someone done an Alan Sherman rip off yet? Hello, mudda, hello fodder, globalize the interfaada. This is a good idea. Someone actually did, someone did send us a Here I am at Camp Hasbara full lyric sheet for that. And I think we're going to have to melt these ideas together.

Yeah. Because the piggy hasn't been asking for more music. But let's continue this. Wait, I do, I do want to say one thing. I feel like the reason they're like, oh, he's going to have to win over the votes is because it took them like how many weeks to have a meeting when Trump started doing shit? I think they're on a lag. You know what I mean? Oh, shit.

They have bad Wi-Fi. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're like, well. And of course, what they're really doing is giving you a preview of all the reasons why they're going to rat fuck him. Right. Exactly. That's 100%.

Setting up the impossible bells and whistles and hoops of fucking fire and vats of acid that they want him to jump through and into so that when they do these things they'll say this is wildly by

as they're done by Republicans they'll say well you know it was a he didn't quite pull it off. Yeah and it's 100% that is absolutely correct and it's absolutely what's happening because if they wanted to support his campaign

they could do propaganda on the other side you know what I mean they could just be like you know they could say what we're saying which is essentially you know he already won

he already won the support he already convinced the Jewish population voting population of New York to vote for him over Cuomo to vote for him over you know what is it Brad Lerner

is that his name Lander Lander like Don't disrespect our king like that Listen, I love Lander. Shout out to Lander for doing what he should be doing, which is being an ally in those situations, especially knowing he wasn't going to win.

And a strategic ally, too, not just... Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, you know, using his, you know, using his Jewishness, using his body as a way of like showing support for someone who he knew and knows is not anti-Semitic. And even he did, you know, mention his own personal discomfort with intifada, the word intepada or globalizing intifada. Yeah, he did. This was before the election.

And I remember, you know, I wasn't happy with it. It felt semi rat fucky. But at the same time, you know, he, because of his support for his campaign, I do, you know, give it a pass. I just, in general, yeah, in general, like, he changed his first name. Yeah. In, in general, you know, this like whole, uh, globalized intifada, you know, bullshit is about like the feelings.

Well, what if some people are uncomfortable with it? What if Jews are uncomfortable with it? And, you know, like the, the idea that any democratic politician in New York would not support him and would try to amplify this line of thinking when it's like, okay, you look at how well he did in the primary and you go, I guess people aren't that uncomfortable with the idea of intifada. I guess his explanation for what intifada means, which is the definition of intifada being an uprising, which the fucking Holocaust Museum or some major Jewish organization used to use

in the Arabic translation for the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. until like summer of 2024, I think. Right. Yes. When they changed it to the word, the Arabic word for resistance, which I'm sure if that became popular to describe the Palestinian struggle, that also become an off-limits word. Right.

They would change that as well. Also, like, people, the lack of empathy and the ability to put yourself in each other's places always, like, it shouldn't, but it always surprises me. Like, the number of times the White House has tweeted out Shalom after doing something God awful. And, like, people on. aren't like well oh no someone said shalom to me is that a threat you know no one is doing that yes no one is doing that it yeah it's it's completely in fact the the opposite is happening a lot

there's like people like briana woo who are you know uh was saying you know she said shalom to someone at the airport when she landed outside of israel and they looked at her weird and she said Shalom to a free parking sign. Yeah, exactly. And she said, oh, the Jewish allies are tired. Yeah. So Akeem kind of like goes on and on. I want to play something that is more of the same from,

this is kind of the video. It's an interview that Kristen Gillibrand did with some guy. that just if you haven't seen it already here it is well um the caller is exactly the new york constituents that i've spoken to that are alarmed so the caller uh that she's referring to as someone who calls in this is on brian a lair show where he uh allows callers to call in and talk to his guests and ask questions and the the question that the caller had was hi i'm a jewish new yorker and i think um mondani is uh anti-semitic and trying to Globalized the Intifada and his pro Hamas and blah, blah, blah.

What do you say to all that? Can you validate my feelings? Yes. Can you please co-sign my delusions? Thank you. They are alarmed by past public statements. They are alarmed by past positions, particularly references to global jihad. This is a very serious issue.

He has never said global jihad. He's never talked about globalizing. He's actually not ever, I think, said globalized the intifada. He's actually a He's a flat earther So why would he even say globe? Yeah, he doesn't believe in the concept of globes Yeah

He thinks there's an ice wall surrounding These fucking morons think These fucking morons think Intifada and Jihad are synonymous Yes, they do With each other Yes, and it's just straight Islamophobia It's like it is pure uncut Islamophobia

Where they're just like Jihad, intifada Whatever the hell They said globalize the Allah Is that bad? They said something globalized the Allah al-Aq bar and we all know that that means kill the Jews. Because people that glorify the slaughter of Jews

create fear in our communities. The global intifada is a statement that means destroy and destroy Israel and kill all the Jews. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. These are the kinds of things that if Mr. Mamdani is elected our mayor, we'll need to assure all New Yorkers that he will protect all Jews and protect houses of worship and protect funding for not for profits that meet the needs of

these communities. Those are the things he'll have to do as our mayor. He would certainly say that he has committed to protecting all Jews in New York as mayor of New York. Wait, can I address something really? Please, please, please. So I think the the person who was calling in was talking about him promising to like defund nonprofits. But I think what Mamdani was referring to was like people that we're trying to sell land in Gaza. Like it was people doing bad shit to Palestinian people. That's also, I think, illegal? I don't know.

Right. Listen, Pallavi, Pallavi, an unspoken rule, a code, you might say, in New York politics, ever since JZ's reasonable doubt dropped in 1996 is you can't knock the hustle, all right? That's right. And what Mandani is doing here is flagrantly knocking some people's hustle. That's right. It's a hard knock life, okay? It is?

That's right. That's right. You know, and boy, Matt, there's definitely a Jay-Z song, you know. No, got nothing, guys. I got 99 problems. Yes. Yeah, I would have done that. I know that.

But yes, don't knock the hustle. And that's what he's doing. He's knocking the hustle of all those who are just merely trying to celebrate their religion by selling land that they do not own. 99 problems, but a smoke Tritch ain't one. Thank you, producer, Adam. Thank you, Adam. Yes. And Brighton Lear actually pushes back, which is credit to him.

Do you doubt that? Well, one of the issues I did talk to him yesterday was exactly this issue. and he has agreed to work with you on this and to protect all residents. Also, I thought, like literally when I listened to this to the first time, I thought whoever was playing it was speeding it up like 1.5, but she literally just sounds like manic like this. That's crazy. Yeah, if this isn't sped up, then damn.

I got to find out what kind of ADD matchy. But I understand why people are concerned because of past statements. And so this is just an issue that I will work with him on, for sure. She's just reading an A-PAC teleprompter. He's just like trying to catch up. Faster! That's a line from Andor, that's, that's, Dedra says, that's an issue I will work on him on for sure.

Yeah, yeah. They'll send him to the doctor. Yes. This episode is for all our Jay-Z Star Wars fans. Yes. Yes. Daniel, please, you got to finish it. Finish it on your canoe trip. I just started, I can't.

I just started season two. Okay. Well, we got to talk about it. more as soon as you finish as soon as you finish we'll talk about it more and then also to be a little pro uh it's sort of about kind of about galactifying the intifada am i right it does feel like they're galactifying the intifada a little bit i'm gonna say there does seem to be a sort of burgeoning intifada in that show um you know we will find more as soon as daniel universalize the intifada that's right i just feel compelled to say we can find no evidence that he has supported hamas or has

supported violent jihad as that caller was asserting can you i think the reference that i had read was global intifada specifically um which is has very i love the smearing of someone's entire fucking person like doing a straight up character assassination based on uh uh i don't know i think i heard like so like my homie jeff uh said that mom dani was out on the streets just talking mad shit about how Israel is like, you know, bombing children or whatnot. And anyways, he definitely said some shady shit,

for sure. Me and Eric Adams are in the same Facebook groups, and those AI images are really terrifying. It's like a hitman or an assassin going out to do a job based on like a very garbled voice memo from the superiors.

Like that said nothing about go get them. Yeah, it's like, he's just like going to shoot three similar guys and just go, one of them had to be him. Very serious meaning. That's literally the cops. That are violent and destructive. Which he says, and I pressed him on this on the show on Monday, but which he says are not calls for violence because Intifada is a much broader term involving all kinds of uprisings and resistance and things like that. So I just want to be clear about how at least he defines it. and maybe he needs to be more clear.

I don't mean this. I don't mean that. He did say here that he didn't want to be the word police, even as the mayor of New York, if he's elected. But I do also want to be clear that he said he does not support violent interfaith. So, Brian, I didn't hear your exchange with him, but if I was speaking to him directly, I would simply say, that is not how the words are received.

And it doesn't matter what meaning you have in your brain is not how the word is received. And when you use the word like intifada, to many Jewish Americans and Jewish New Yorkers, That means you are permissive for violence against Jews. Okay, so at this point, Kristen Gillibrand, you are not speaking. The election for the Democratic nominee for mayor has happened. That's right. If this were before then, you could continue making this argument.

But so far, all you have now is, oh, shit, well, but have you considered all the people who forgot to vote that day? And it's like, yeah, it's true. Primaries are not going to be. there's going to be larger turnout in the general. But at this point, what you are doing is spreading this misinformation. What you are doing is saying, no, no, no, no. There are some Jews out there who, when they hear the word intifada, they think this, that, and the other.

And all I can say is, sorry, sorry, at some point, you do have to learn. You do have to educate yourself. You are not allowed to continue stoking the delusion of people just because you figure it'll earn you political points against someone who is a, you know, a political rival for no real reason. Like, why is Mondani your political rival? It has everything to do with APEC.

It has everything to do with donors and zero to do with protecting the handful of Jewish constituents that you've talked to who are like, I'm eskioed. Guess what? The vote happened. And if people thought that he was the guy you are saying he is, then they had their chance to say whether or not they thought that. They didn't.

And less than nothing to do with winning. I think, you know, this rant is super Islamophobic because she was like, basically like, you spoke Spanish in a grocery store and that means you're taking my jobs. But also just in the context of who she's listening to, multiple times in this conversation, she's like, I didn't listen to your conversation with Mamdani. I didn't listen to what when he explained what the Intifada is.

I didn't listen to anything that's a Muslim man said. Instead, I'm listening to a caller who is calling in with a bunch of racist rants because that is more valid to my mind to listen to than the potential mayor of New York to actually understand him. And I'm like, it's so, like, even that action

is so dehumanizing. Right. I can't. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I have to say, like, we are not Peter Bynard haters on this show. Far from it. I have a lot of respect and gratitude for that guy and hope we can converse with him one day soon. But he said something that I thought sort of betrayed a kind of bias that I wish he didn't have, which where he's he tweeted, he's like, look, the Jewish New Yorkers' conceptions and prejudices and fears about Mamdani. are 100% wrong and misguided, but they're sincere. Right. And I think even I get what he's trying to do. You know, he's trying to hold empathetic, compassionate space

while holding the line on the facts. But at a certain point, when you start granting sincerity points to something that is so at the very best polluted within sincerity. Right. I'm not saying there aren't Jewish, New Yorkers who have, like, genuine or at least felt emotion in their bodies and nervous systems around these words and all of that stuff. But like, you can just hear it from these

politicians. Right. The lack of sincerity, the lack of good faith that just drips off of every smear that I wouldn't. Yeah. David Duke means it when he says the things he says. This is exactly, yes. Being genuine. Come on. Yeah. This is, this is the exact point I was going to make, which is like, have no doubt. I have zero doubt that there are people who are genuinely afraid of hearing Arabic. I don't cater to them. And they do not get a pass to be Islamophobic. This is like the pisses me off more than anything else is the idea of like, well, I can see how if you're Jewish, you may hear Arabic words and they may remind you of the Arabic people in Israel who do terrorism.

And it's like, you don't get to just erase the critical thinking part of your body. You know, you don't get to erase the history and the context. You don't get to just be racist and be like, well, we have to cater to them and rub their hand and tell them, it's okay. you know he will allay your fears especially when you know that of course that shit that there are people who feel that way of course there are the people who are saying that like the jillabrands or the eric adams or the hakeem jeffreys are doing it for political reasons they're doing a smear i'm sorry the idea of like the fact that there remain people who are going to be offended by words like intifada that's just a fact there's always going to be that they're using they're using Jews to do it

which is actually a smear they're doing a smear campaign that's right they're doing a smear campaign 10 out of 10 by the way but yeah it just it pisses me off it pisses me off so much

to hear like any kind of like well we should have you know some empathy for people who hear this and get scared. And it's like, have empathy for whoever the fuck you want. The idea that any leader in the Democratic Party would then use that Islamophobia to their advantage

because they don't like this guy's either Israel policies or his economic policies or whatever the fuck. I'm like, that shit is evil. That shit is straight, just racism. You are not allowed to be racist by covering it in protection against anti-Semitism. That does not help with anti-Semitism. It makes everything worse.

And it just, the fact that we have Democratic politicians doing this, it's not surprising. It's not shocking, but it's fucking infuriating dog. I have a solution. How do you say globalized the intifada in Hebrew? Maybe that. Oh, my God. Maybe that would be better. Do you know how terrified?

That's actually not a terrible idea. But Zionists would be fucking freaked out if Arabs learn to speak Hebrew and then A lot of Arabs do by necessity. No, no, no, no. I know, I know. But I mean like on a, on a larger scale. Yeah, on a global scale. That's actually a really good idea.

All right. Let's get a trending, guys. Yes, we got it. Death to the IDF trending. Lehafoch at the intifada to glovelit. Fuck. So it's the same thing?

So they're mad at the same. It's the same word in Hebrew, so they know what it means? Yeah. They forgot. Half of Israeli Hebrew is Arabic word. That's right. You have to remember. Sababa, yala.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. They borrow from it all the time. Yes. Yes. You know how like, you know how I, as a white dude always be stealing African-American vernacular.

They do the same thing. You do always be stealing that. I always be doing. Yeah, you know, we in the Ku Klux Klan in Mississippi, we are ten toes down. We're about our, we're about our business. We're standing on business. We're standing on business. And that's on that, period.

Period. Wait, so they're not scared of the word intifada, because that's Hebrew. They're scared of the English words. They're scared of globalized the. Yeah, it's the globalized the part, you know. Listen, we're also scared of English, okay? the British terrorized us too, okay? We're all on the same guy.

At my most charitable, I could say, okay, fine. The second Intifada is associated primarily with suicide bombings and boss bombings, and that's all people remember, blah, blah, blah. But if you go back to the fucking first Intifada, and I'm sure the entire history of the second Intifada would round this out, you know, would balance the picture. But the first Intifada, almost entirely nonviolent, except on the side of the government whose army was sent in to break the bones of children.

Right. You know, and we all know what nonviolent Palestinian mass civil disobedience leads to. Right. It leads to as much, if not more violence than fucking armed resistance. Right. And it's also just, I'm sorry, but like, you know, even in talking about the second Intifada, People are like, well, you know, they had memories. They know of that word because of the Second Intifada in which there were suicide bombings and whatnot.

Look at the amount of destruction and death wrought upon the people of the West Bank and Gaza during the Second Intifada. The idea that you get to completely erase the power dynamic between these two parties. Right. Because, oh, well, it was really scary. They were actually doing some damage. Yeah, the side that's not supposed to suffer. They were actually resisting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The side that's, you know, supposed to be completely insulated from any of the death and destruction that they regularly, you know, reek upon the people of Gaza were actually seeing it. Like, chickens roosting is not something like that they should ever have to feel. Any chickens should go roost somewhere else. They shouldn't come home to roost. Yes, exactly. Why do you have to build a wall? Do that shit somewhere else. That's what walls are for to stop the chickens from coming home to roost.

More like iron don't, okay? Just don't. We need to take a break, guys, because there are commercials for things that we support. I don't know. You'll find out. We'll be right back. And we're back as bad as barra. We're here with Pahlavi, Glan.

What's up? Nothing. Just enjoying this conversation with you guys. I enjoy conversing, talking, hanging. But you know what else I enjoy? Conversely, I do too. Yes. You know what else I love, though, y'all?

What? I love music. I love listening to it. I love dancing to it. I love when there are music. festivals in which people live stream there was one of those recently shout out helen from wales that's right helen from wales we will be getting into it uh the glastonbury festival uh i think it's called hamastonbury sorry hamastonberry the lingenberry pancake festival for anti-semi it sounds so good

yeah i know no i'm hangy uh it just happened over the weekend And there was, of course, all of the regular concerns, you know, security obviously has got to be of utmost importance in a festival situation. Because you don't know what kind of, you know, elements are out there trying to reap destruction. But they forgot one thing. They forgot to make sure that the artists were all Zionists and they failed spectacularly. You know, actually, they have those security things where they come through and they check the metal detectors and they make sure you have clear plastic bags and they make sure you denounce Hamas and then that's how you get into to the festival. Yeah. Yeah. They make you they, you pour out your water. And while you're doing that, you're pouring out also your support for Hamas. And unfortunately, not everyone was able to do so. And it's been, I mean, a few days now of glass and, discourse and i've just been eating it up we have some of our pod favorites who were there uh kneecap was there bob villain was there rod stewart was there i mean it just was i mean truly an amazing

amazing best do you think i'm sexy uh yes i do for the last fucking time neil young was there too You're like needy Rod Stewart Yeah Rod Stewart So do you think I'm set? Yes, yes Yes You're sexy

Good job Fuck Yes Have you guys heard Do you think I'm valid You guys You guys know the Gerbil story right

For Richard gear Yeah Do you know the Had to have your stomach Pump for Rod Stewart Is that a known thing? Oh okay that he like he drank so much cum that he had to have his stomach pump that's not i don't think

that's real that is so sexy i overdosed on jizz that's crazy my my friend uh oh when i was a kid it was jordan night from new kids on the block yeah maybe it's like shifted a lot but you know it was just something that apparently people you know it was a meme back when we were kids not for me, Vince Mancini, my co-host on the rewatch podcast, he constantly brings up stomach pumps for cum, and I'm like, we just had a different childhood. Anyways, how much, how much is, is a pumpable sum? I don't know. That's the other question is like, a pumpable cum sum.

Yeah. You know, when you go to college and you don't know your limit and you're just drinking come here and there, and then one morning you end up in the hospital. That's right. I mean, the thing is, when you're young, you can. can do that but you hit 30 you're going to the next morning you can't get away with that shit all of this shit is all

come over for three days now just how cum hangover oh god you got to drink water and eat some bread before by the way we are submitting this episode for the Peabody that's right this is a Peabody Award season

we want to let you know that we have a lot of good stories to tell but yes a lot of great great artists were there and I got to play what happened with Bob Bill and so apparently the BBC made sure

because they stream Glass and Barry they made sure to I think cut away or to not live stream kneecap set because of worries that they might go up there and say free Palestine which is of course

you know a dog whistle for we're tired yeah for we're tired and uh so they decided to instead um you know play some other acts and one was bob villain who we have played on this show before here was bob villains or part of bob villains set and uh i just i i i hear it is so sick so the crowd if you look at the crowd it's just covered in Palestinian flags and flags from all over but i love i love the Palestinian flag representation. Free, free, free, free, free, free. All right, but have you heard this one though?

Death, death, death to the IDF, death, death to the IDF, death to the IDF. Death, death to the IDF. So great. So great. Death to the IDF. Death, death to the IDF. Hell yeah, from the river to the sea. Palestine must be, will be, inshallah, it will be free.

Oh my boy. I love this guy. We got to get this guy on the pod. How? Bob. I love it so much. New theme song for the pod. I know. So there's so much about that chant that is just incredible. Number one, pod for the love of God. Yeah. Number one, it is just nice to have a new chant. It's like one of those things where it's just like every time I go to any protest. Every protest, I'm like, you know, You know, it's like the same kind of like three things over and over again. And I'm just like, can we, you know, if you ever watch like soccer, you know, football, whatever, you know, they're, they got hooligans coming up with new chance all the time. I feel like there are people dedicated to writing chance. Can we get more chance? What do we want?

Something original and catchy. When do we want it? Yesterday. Yeah, 100%, you know, you know, no blank. This is what chanting looks like. Yeah. No KKK, no blah, blah. blah blah blah blah it's just like we can do better it doesn't even have to be more complicated

but death death to the idf is uh one of those perfect things where you hear it and you go oh shit and then you think about it for less than three seconds and you go like that is great it's i don't want to say permissible because who the hell it's giving permission for fucking anything the idea of permissible is whatever but like he's that that to the idf is a feeling that i think a lot of people have had and is uh not it's not death to jews it's not death to all israelis it's not death to uh you know the whole by virtue of the fact that conscription is there it's death to a lot of israel well that's not the fault of the chant at least some of the time yeah at some point don't have a moral compass for like right exactly and also that's not the chance fault the chant

didn't invent conscription well as as friend of the pod sana said said yes glast and Barry Chant is actually the politest thing one can say and do about a military that has been doing this nonstop for 360 days. And of course, she posted just one of many horror clips from Gaza just from yesterday. Yes. And, you know, it's also, I mean, the outrage over this has been so fucking funny to watch. I mean, here we have, this is David Collier, who is someone I've mentioned on the pod. He made his whole thing. Not Dave Cooley. Yeah, not Dave Cooleyer. He is, you know, Isn't it ironic? He's not cutting it out.

So this guy made his whole thing trying to get Wikipedia entries to do Hasbara. That's been in his entire life is that. I just love this guy. So he wrote, death, death to the IDF, at Glassenberry, this guy is wishing death on almost every single Israeli child. And he thinks he's clever. In child? What are we talking about here? Well, in Israel, they use children as human shoes.

I was going to say. what? Do they have a child army like it's Coney? Yeah, yeah, it's the only, it's the only country in the world that has perinatal basic training. Right, yeah, exactly. Exactly, dude. It's just... Crabma,

Gougu Gaga. Yeah, Crobma Gougu Gaga. That's... Honey, honey, come here. Feel my belly. I think she's saluting. Yeah. Oh, man. It's so wild. It is just so crazy that like that like people who are like rabidly Zionist are like yeah every child is evil over there

and so they need to die because they're pro Hamas you know they're born and bred Hamas they're born and they're taught to hate yeah yeah but not us we're just too well as other friend of this show Tai Kiki said on the one hand all children are combatants right mm-hmm but when it comes to the IDF all combatants are children oh yeah that's right all All combatants are little tiny babies if you're in the IDF. And yeah, like, the way in which people are, like, talking about this is just kind of like, this is unbelievable that, you know, he would say such a anti-Semitic thing, you know, calls for, you know, the destruction of Jews, calls for a second Holocaust calls for,

and it's just like, as Sana said, this is the politest that you can be. And also the most, like, surgical in terms of target. the target itself being the army doing the genocide is complete like you can't argue with it sorry you can't also the second holocaust is already happening in Gaza like yeah it's happening right what do you mean like it is happening and also like this is something like for a long time I I struggle I think that there should be people in all lands like people who are gentler and more patient and then me sure people who are pissed off all the time right Like, there's a whole spectrum of people to winning, to educating people, getting them over to your side.

But there is a satisfaction in like the bad guys getting scared because they're never fucking scared. They're wearing like the clothes of the people they've murdered. Like they're dancing around on fucking TikTok. I want them to feel fear when they hear death, death to the IDF. I want that bubble to be burst because like, what the fuck are they doing? Yes, yes. I mean, a consequence, please, I would like to order a single consequence, even if it's just a completely rhetorical one, even if it's just something in rhetoric or in, you know, public opinion. You just want something and the idea that this chant is like somehow, oh, no, this is completely non-permissible because it's about all Jews or about all Israelis.

is, I mean, it's fucking bullshit. It's 100% bullshit. Here is something Brianna Wu tweeted about it. Check this out. Your view of the IDF changes when you visit Israel and you visit their bases. I'm sure it does, Brianna. When you cheer death, death to the IDF, you're really just calling for the slaughter of the only Jewish nation's 20-something children. Like, they're literally just very sweet kids serving their country.

To which a bunch of people... I'm sorry. I've seen their TikTok. they are not serving, okay? Yeah, they don't serve shit. They are not. They don't even serve cunt. Yeah.

These pools, they are, yes, all they do is dance in the bone dust of their enemies. And that's not fun. A five-star Michelin restaurant TV sketch about serving cunt, but like oat servies, you know? Yeah, sure. White glove. Yeah, white glove cunt restaurant. The bear, cunt edition. That's right.

They're like freaking out in the back. They're like, we got to get this cunt out now. Cousin! The cunt order! Yes, chef. Yeah. Yes, honey. Excellent cuntz.

Excellent cunch, yeah, yeah. Thank you, chef. The one thing I was going to say earlier about like shaking them to their court, there was this memory that I have that is very defining for me for the last like 20-something months. Like I went to a protest. shortly after October 7th and like there was this big beautiful Palestinian flag and we're holding it. We were marching and we were chanting. And I remember seeing this one lady and there's no way she wasn't a Zionist. And she was standing on the side watching everything go by. And like that is the image of jaw on the floor to me of her being like, oh my God.

Like I can't believe people care about these people. Like I just remember her being so shook and I just want that to have. happen over and over again until people start like questioning it, you know? And like anything we can do to shake them out of that, I'm like, yeah, perfect. Thank you so much. Yeah, 100%. And, you know, that's what watching, you know, these acts of defiance, even in a completely artistic, you know, symbolic, theatrical way is like the point of them is the hope for them. And also as a little bit of a litmus test to see what the uh you know trying to see what the which way the wind is blowing it's very comforting to me to see everyone at glass and berry chanting back that to the idf which is like you know something that you just would not expect you i don't think you would see that here well and many commenters

are rightly pulling from this that it's just the latest sign that this generation has been lost and to the to the hasbarists and thus to the cause of justice and sure and rightness of found you know what I'm saying that's right because you just can't do what you've done for the last 21 months

right and expect not expect people not to full-throatedly embrace a chant like that that captures how everyone feels but didn't have the words for right and you know yeah go ahead And I was going to say, like you were saying it gives you comfort. It definitely like rejuvenates like a lot of the people over here, but you would hope that this message like reaches people in Gaza because they're so like I get emotional

thinking about how like inspiring and persistent and like just the peak of humanity that I've seen there at the same time that this has happened. And like, like, I, speaking of Sammy O'Bade, like, I've toured with him too. And it's the most beautiful experience. He literally will talk to doctors and nurses from Gaza who are facetiming, you know, videos of doctor to doctors and nurses there right now and they watch his videos. Like they, they, they see Miss Rachel, like anything we can do. We can't get in there right now, but anything we can do to communicate with them to let them

know like to keep fighting and we're still here and like we hear you and we're all together on this like I like it it really it feels like we're connected in this way you know yeah yeah it's for sure and speaking of miss rachel just wanted to say she recently posted up and posted from my dear friend and collaborators Tony winning musical maybe happy ending yeah she went and saw it with uh with her husband Aaron uh and uh yeah i love it Because I'm proud of Aaron and I getting out for a date, which is like the most, both my, you know, both, both my parents do content. Like, that is 100%. That's so cute. This is how, Francesca and I saw a movie. Well, we saw 45 minutes of a movie and then we got hungry and left. But like last week and it was like, we felt very proud of ourselves for going out on a date. not my dad content yeah but but i i agree completely it's it's just um you know uh the shows of solidarity is kind of what a what most people can do it's you know

most people can't obviously afford to uh give substantial amounts of money um because all our money is going to the weapons so we right exactly exactly we wouldn't physically be able to afford to offset the money that goes to the weapons and uh you know so instead it just hears us you know letting you know we're standing with you uh and we can only hope that they can um you know see see that and i'm getting an image of i mean this would this is out of the movie version you know because you can't fight the idf militarily right the palestinians kandigaz it would need right but i'm imagining some kind of a crazy like sound system being built from underneath the ground

in Gaza, like the entire strip turned into just massive speakers and then the Glastonbury chant, death, death of the IDF being pumped through that at exactly the moment when, you know, they're doing their key operation, the I.OF is coming in and just like getting blasted with the sound of the entire world what that would do to their morale and then the tide turns. yeah yeah that's actually the plot of sonic four so that's Sonic four they do that to Robotnik death death to the idea death to Eggman yeah it is you know it is something watching people

freak out about it watching I mean they're already you know trying to ban Bob villain from the United States. They're trying to get, you know, because he's about to come here for a bit of a tour, which I'm very much hoping he's able to do. I would, I would love to see him live. Let's go together. I'm 100% down. I'm 100% down. He just got dropped by UTA, his agency, United Talent, which, of course, you know, it's- Call it a UTI from now on. Yeah, exactly. I mean, just this is this is not at all shocking to me that he would lose his agents over this um people have been losing their agents for doing much less than a chance rather lose my agents than my agency oh yeah hell yeah serve the cunt tame the cunt okay no more you're not allowed to say

i'm sorry i when i say it i was having too much fun and now i shouldn't say cunt so much and now You got to say it full confidence. I know. If I do it half confidence, I sound like a creeper. Excuse me, my wife is a diabetic. We were wondering, when will the comfy serve? That's good. I like that.

But yeah, you know, he's getting all these consequences. Meanwhile, the, you know, he went on, Bob Villan went on Instagram and first he posted this wonderful picture. I loved that. While Zionists are crying on socials, I just had late night vegan ice cream. And I love the vegan. thing, by the way. People are trying to do this thing

where they're just like, um, his real, they're trying to eight mile him where they're like, his real name's Clarence. Clarence parents have real good marriage. Uh, and it's like he is a rapper, you know, I mean, I'm sorry, he is, uh, like

a punk rocker slash, you know, rapper. It's like he's not, uh, he's not fucking, uh, pop a doc from Detroit. doing, you know, the eight-mile thing. There is no pretense to the shit he's doing. It's

crazy. This is like the wonderful tweet from Asa and Stanley. Tell me you have no black friends without telling me you have no black friends. And it's Peter Lloyd writing. Bob Villain's real name is Pascal Robinson Foster. Turns out he's also a vegan poet.

So urban, so punk, so gangsta. Have you never, you've obviously never met a punk rocker in your entire life you know if you're looking at someone and going like oh he's how punk is this he's a vegan you've clearly never met any punk rock person ever like the idea of a vegan poet is not like somehow not punk it's you know what I mean it's he's acting like bring 90 sitcoms back because that I know every there was one slam poetry episode and every 90 sitcom I feel

Also, he's got long dreads, right? You could cross-reference with Rasta. Like, he got a whole fucking religion of dreadlocked people who don't eat animal products. It's just, if you wanted to like, even, whatever. It just sounds racist with like the urban thing. All it is is, is he's trying, they're trying to eight mile him. And just watching that is like, it's so, it's so like subconsciously racist. It'd be like taking a Mother's Day post and be like, this guy is honoring the women of the world.

I thought, you know, bitches weren't nothing but hoes and tricks. Yeah, exactly. Two rapper? Yeah, look at this. Look at this. He can't be rapping. He's respecting his mom. It's like, okay, so you're just a racist.

Also him, he looked so happy when he was eating the ice cream. I know. And then people were like, his parents are happy. And I'm like, good for him. you know like that makes me even thank you for doing the research to make me happier for him i'm glad to know that his parents are happy like the idea they're like oh he he comes from a family that uh where everyone loves each other it's like what is what are we doing here about the familial unit because that's the only way to raise well-adjusted children oh wait they're pro-palestine never mind

I just love the idea of, like, some fucking Zionist, like, right-wing psychopath who, like, works for the free press or whatever, trying to, like, get rid of the street cred of British punk rock guy. It was just like, the dudes up there going death, death to the ODF. It's just, like, I'm sorry, but you're not going to be able to bury Weiss this, bro. His next post was even better. Yes, really fantastic. Do you want to read this? Sure. As I lay in bed this morning, my phone buzzing nonstop inundated with messages of both support and hatred, I listened to my daughter typing out loud as she fills out a school survey asking for her feedback on the current state of her school dinners.

She expressed that she would like healthier meals, more options, and dishes inspired by other parts of the world. Listening to her voice, her opinions, excuse me, listening to her voice, her opinions on a matter that she cares about and affects her daily reminds me that we may, not be doomed after all. Teaching our children to speak up for the change they want and need is the only way that we make this world a better place. As we grow older and our fire possibly starts to dim under the suffocation of adult life and all its responsibilities, it is incredibly important that we encourage and inspire future generations to pick up the torch that was passed to us. Let us display to them loudly and visibly the right thing to do when we want and need change. Let them see us marching in the streets, campaigning on ground level,

organizing online and shouting about it on every and every stage that we are offered. Today, it is a change in school dinners. Tomorrow, it is a change in foreign policy. I want to be friends with him. I know. He's so cool. He's so cool. I just love this guy.

The daughter was typing, stop, stop to the same old slop. Yeah. Straight up, I'm like, you look at that and you see like the attempts to try to defame him as, you know, some sort of whatever, you know, trying to get rid of street cred. Yeah, some sort of villain. And it's just funny because, you know, you read that and you're like, oh, no, what he is is just like you or me. He's a parent. This is someone who is a human in the world with a family who, you know, wants all sorts of things for themselves, for their children, for their community, for the, for their community, for the world. And, you know, this is not just like the attempts to try to put all of these

pro-Palestine artists into this like, oh, these are some sort of political, you know, radical psychopaths and completely dehumanize them, say, well, of course, you know, they would think that they're this, that, and the other. And you just see people like him, people like Miss Rachel, bringing it back to what it means to set an example for their own kids and for their own communities. And it's just, I don't know, it's inspiring to watch. And I just, I love it. I love it as a parent and I love it as a music fan. And of course, I love it as a vegan. Yeah, that's right. You're a vegan. You love it. That's good vegan. The most annoying thing about him is he's a vegan and now that's good representation. Yes, finally. A good, a good vegan. But in terms of people who didn't like it,

can I just play you guys a video from a rapper out here in the United States named kosher dills? Now, I don't think we've talked much about kosher dills, but apparently he was a rapper that people knew of, but then after October 7th kind of became a Zionist, Hasbarist, you know, person. And I don't know if I've played much from him, but this is his reaction to all of the people at Glastonbury who are showing their full support for Palestine, including Bob Villain. Check this out. Death, death, death to the IDF, death, death to the IDF. Death, death to the IDF. What up guys from Brooklyn, this kosher deal. Just looking at this. Bob Villain said, is his name villain. First off, congratulations on being the villain,

your Glastonbury, death to the IDF. Another lonely guy who didn't get enough press covers with 77,000 Instagram followers or playing a Glass and Barry, let me be on a BBC and say, Death to the IDF. Now you've put tons of innocent Palestinians' lives in jeopardy, causing mass hysteria while you live in the comfort of your home

when you are neither Jewish, nor you are Palestinian, nor you suffer from this conflict. Time out, time out, time out. yes what was that fucking mafia threat as comment oh yes put uh you've just marked the entire Palestinian people for uh death where we're on it now there's nothing we can do yes this is it now yes this is his fucking point like that's not an offhanded comment that he made that is the point of this video it's about his point is going to be because of you now the in reality what you're going to see is a bunch of

death, you know, and it's because you said something. Just let you know. I mean, it's straight here. ...opalstonian people, but in reality, you're angering other people, the IDF, and now you're going to put innocent lives at risk. Also, you could independently gain popularity, finance, and

feel the romance of a lot of cliques from establishments that never cover your music. Now, you went from being a, you know, political artist to now a political pundit overnight, just like this. What the fuck are you? You kind of fuck yourself. And you're never going to be able to play all these festivals.

You don't help anybody. And you've actually endangered lives with Palestinians. All because you... I mean, just the idea that he's endangered lives, as if the onus on keeping Palestinian lives safe and not dying is on him and is dependent on his silence. It's just like...

A bunch of IDF soldiers just huddled around a live stream of BBC's Glastonbury. Yeah, and they were like, we were going to hold off today, but let's see what's going on in this music festival. And I'm sorry, but like, is your argument that, is your pro IDF argument that they're going to see this and be so petty? They're going to murder people because Bob villain was mean to them? Is that your argument? And these are the people you support? This is a fucking insane, this is an insane point to make. You're endangering.

And now you've angered them. It's your fault. This is like literally you're saying, you know, don't anger the, you know, the people who wrote the ransom note. They said no funny business. If you do funny business and they die, it's your fault. Yeah. This, I'm sorry. Kosher Dills, you're on notice.

I don't know who you are. And I also, we have a notice board now. Wow. Yeah, no, I just started a notice board. Kosher Dills, you're on notice, motherfucker. If I see you out in the street, I'm going to fucking brine your pickle ass. Your stage name fucking sucks. It sucks mad dicks.

And it just like, I'm sorry, but it'd be maybe a funny 2012 gag. But at this point, what are we doing? Kosher Dills still? Come on, pick a better name. Also, like, I'm so sick of artists. being like hey artist stop being political okay you've entered the conversation now like you're also doing it like what are you talking about oh my god just yeah the the idea of stop being political is such an overtly political statement every single time and it just drives you

fucking nuts but yeah kosherdil's shut up and dribble yeah kosherdil's a true true statement of solidarity with the IDF there saying that they would be so petty and murderous that they would do revenge killings because Bob Villan did a set at Glassenberry in which he chanted death to the IDF. Yeah, super normal army for you to support. And I'm sure the IDF is very happy to hear your vocal support. One of the last things I'm going to play before we get out of here is this blonde lady. Nope, I'm already out. Sorry. But we haven't had a blonde lady in a little bit.

We heard a little bit of a blonde lady with the Kristen Gillibrand thing. But can I? Okay, go ahead. No, you go. Okay, wait. I have a little petty thing after that I'm really upset about that I do want to talk about, but do this first. Okay. All right.

Hey, feel free to be petty. I love pettiness. The show was born on pettiness. Here is this lady. A quick video because my tweet saying that as a tarness, I would not feel welcome at Glastonbury Festival has received quite a bit of pushback. I completely stand by it, having seen content from the festival, there are very clear anti-Israel sentiment on display. It's also pretty apparent that some pretty extreme and radical views are being given a platform. I think it's

quite depressing that the UK's biggest music festival, which should be open, you know, inclusive and tolerant, would not feel safe or welcoming for an individual like me. I'm sorry, but the idea of like, I'm a Zionist, and I feel unsafe in the fact that you are not supporting my Zionism is, I'm sorry. The thing is, she started out with her campgrounds at the festival at a certain level, and then she just kept expanding and expanding. That's right. And that's what they had a problem with.

Yeah, exactly. She's occupying more and more space. But yeah, I mean, you know, this is, it's just, she's referring to a tweet that she made about how sad it is that as a Zionist. I would not be, I would not feel welcome or safe. And, uh, and it's like, yeah, this is, I'm sorry, this should be the norm. As a, as a, as a Zionist, uh, same thing as, uh, like a, as a, as a Nazi, they would as a Nazi as a neo, yeah, yeah, there's a no neo confederate signs at public parks, fine.

You know, like, sorry. I guess she just wasn't made for these times. Yeah, I guess she just didn't know. about those crimes yeah shout out Brian Wilson you up in the sky

yeah it is I just I just love watching everyone freak out about this Paula Vee you have something

petty that you want to bring up okay this is really important it's the thing that's consuming my everyday life Love Island okay

Love Island USA I don't know if you guys watch Island, okay, but it's very important to me. I know of it. TV show. It's some of the craziest things you'll ever see of people making out on TV.

Anyways, they had an after sign. I watched the UK, I watch the UK gay version, which is Brov Island. Brovo Island. Is that real? Put in it. Put in it. I like how Matt didn't know if it was real. I was like, it's a good game.

They're going to take it from this podcast. You're going to put that in it, in it. Yeah. Put it in it. They had, so they have the episodes which are quickly edited of like each day or whatever on the, in the villa. But then they have like what's called Afterson, which are these interstitial episodes where they have like the people who got kicked off. They interview them. They have like other people who've been on the show.

And it's to like a live audience and they talk about what's happened in the villa. And they have guests. And sometimes they have celebrity guests. And guess who their celebrity guests. Like Bob Villa? No. Like Amy Schumer. Oh.

Dang. Yeah. And they were like, we're such huge fans of you, Amy Schumer, like, oh, my God, we're so excited. What did you think of the episode? Who did you like? And I'm like, the fact that these people, these like bloodthirsty racists are normalized in pop culture on other TV shows. And everybody's acting like she didn't just say like Arabs or animals. Like what the fuck or like it made me so mad because I'm watching this reality show to get away from like all

of the horrible things that are happening. And then Zionists are fucking everywhere. I'm like, this sucks. Yeah. Yeah. How it's normalized. Yeah. And, you know, it's funny, you know, watching, of course, Bob Villan losing his,

you know, his talent agents, you know, will probably lose out on some of the, you know, other festivals that he's booked on. I mean, there's going to be another kneecap-esque campaign against him. and hopefully it will have you know so far what I would consider the same results, good results in that kneecap still perform that Glass and Barry and still got to put on an amazing set

in which they chanted all the same shit that they've been chanting have not changed their opinion one iota and were you know so far they have only gained popularity I hope the same thing for Bob Dylan but you see the establishment like in the entertainment industry like continuing to put everyone under this huge microscope and, you know, put consequences on everyone for any

kind of diversion from the, you know, from saying Israel's right to exist. And yeah, yet you get to see straight out and out racist like Amy Schumer still have a career. Shout out to Amy Schumer's anti-Scientist brother. That's right. Amy Schumer. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. She does, yes. She has an He's a jazz clarinetist, I think, bass clarinetist. I met him once. Yeah. Great, great guy. Yes. I love that. Yeah, yeah. You, we all wish. That's like how Mara Wilson and Ben Shapiro are cousins. Like, they are? Yeah, Matilda and Ben Shapiro. They are? Yeah, Matilda and she hates him. She's like, this sucks. Yeah. Matilda way cooler than Ben Shapiro. Yeah. Um, yeah. And, and I do want to say before I end all this and end the segment I was reading

some of the lyrics of some Bob Villan songs and some of them are a little bit too radical for me personally so I do understand some of the outrage I'm going to read some right now a bunch of fucking mice coming out of the tunnels trying to do discourage fools mark my

words there will be no forgiveness yeah who do you think you are coming and shouting free Palestine sign, T-F-I-I, your children's of Amalek, hoop, damage them, left-right, left, impressive, how the whole country put on uniforms from the Galilee to Ilat. Combatants and female combatants, do, what is that, Dove, Devon? These are different brigades.

Oh, okay, Duvdevin, Magav, Caracal. I don't know. Yeah, Bartolos. us. We brought the whole army on you. And I swear there will be no forgiveness, you children's of Amalek. That is Bob Villan. Oh, no, I'm sorry. That's a different song. My bad. That's Harbu Darbu, which was the number one song in Israel. Yeah. What? Plot twist. You guys had me. I had no idea. That's crazy. There's some people out there who had no idea to do a plot twist. But Yes. So yeah, I think that versus death to the IDF. One is about an army. One is about a

genocidal call for the death to Arabs in Palestine. I feel like there's a difference. And that's the show. Follow me. Yeah. How are you doing? Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. This is so exciting. Yeah. It was exciting having you on. Where can people find you on the internet? You can find me at Paula Viganalan, P-A-L-L-A-V-I-I-G-U-N-A-L-A-N. I run a monthly show at the comedy store called Facial Recognition Comedy. It's all South Asian, Middle Eastern, North African comics. So we get a lot of people dropping by to be like, hey, can I do your show so I can run

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Same level when we were talking about come and all of that. Roshin Khalid is taking notes right now. Yeah, he's just like, Rod Stewart, come. So, yeah, thank you for coming on. And thank you, everyone out there for listening. And also thank you, Daniel, you know, for being here. And I hope you enjoy your canoe trip. Thank you.

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