Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - 133: Rat GPT, with Jeremy Kaplowitz

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Matt and Daniel welcome Jeremy Kaplowitz from the Quorators podcast for a remembrance of Palestinian journalist Anas Al-Sharif. Later they watch David Mamet create a scene of immeasurable tension betw...een two people in a tightly hemmed performance space, and finally probe Mayor Pete’s take on some rigid, girthy problems, bursting with arousal.Please find an urgent funds appeal to support at https://gazadirect.com/Join the patreon at https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraSee Francesca Fiorentini and Matt Lieb August 28 in Houston, TX: https://bit.ly/mattfranhtxGet tickets for Francesca Fiorentini, Matt Lieb and friends with Daniel Maté October 13 in Brooklyn: https://bit.ly/mattfranbellhouseSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraWhat’s The Spin playlist: https://spoti.fi/4kjO9tLSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get your podcasts.Spotify https://spoti.fi/3HgpxDmApple Podcasts https://apple.co/4kizajtSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:20 Olive Garden us White cost for us Zabrahamas Asvaras Us Hello, everybody, and welcome to Bad Hasbara. It's the world's most moral podcast, y'all. My name is Matt Lieb.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I'm going to be your world's most moral co-host for this, a podcast. And today I thought I would try being Daniel Matte, your other world's most moral podcast co-host. How you do, Matt? I'm good. How are you? How are things? How's life? You know, life is lifing.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I'm good, thank you. Yeah. good god reality is shitty all over yeah shit sucks shit sucks but at least uh they have an outlawed podcasting no they're thinking of rescheduling it yeah yeah it's like a schedule for narcotic you mean yeah and i don't mean like our episodes coming out on a different day of the week yeah yeah no look i mean someday somehow i should say uh uh something some force whether it's divine or biochemical or whatever you believe in, keeps opening our eyes every morning and giving us consciousness to take all this shit in
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Starting point is 00:03:10 You could be cruising to October 13th Bellhouse show, which is going to be really fun. We're going to be at the Bell House. Myself, my wife Francesca Fiorentini, Daniel Mate, we're going to be there doing stand-up. It's going to be a lot of fun. I've been working on my shit. I've been working on my first ever. ever. I'm so excited. Type four and a half.
Starting point is 00:03:33 What's the deal? Remember to start with what's the deal? Actually, our guest did a fantastic Seinfeld. Oh, I saw that. Yeah. About how he dated a, as a 38-year-old, you dated a 16-year-old. Well, he comes on stage as Jerry Seinfeld making jokes about dating teenagers. What's the deal with parents being the same age as your girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah, that's right. He's talking about girlfriends as if that's just what a girlfriend is. Right. Yes, yes. Very relatable. I'm explaining his bit, probably ruining it, but it's very good. That's always good. Uh, do his bits. Do his bits. Thank you, Adam. But yes, please, please, please, please, if you are in Texas, uh, tickets are going fast for the punchline in Houston. Uh, on August 28th, Francesca and I are going to be at the punchline in Houston. Please get your tickets now. If you are anywhere near Houston, get your tickets now. If you are anywhere near Houston, get your your tickets uh because i want you guys to to come out i think that'll be fun today we want you to come that's right oh man i wish i don't you know it's i've lost track of my board so i don't know who says less and less like a morning zoo a i know i know every week it needs to be that though let's let's bring it back do not come all right do not come i want you to come see i didn't know that comma started that one doesn't matter point is it's today's episode is brought to you by gaza direct dot com gaza direct dot com is a collection of fundraising appeals
Starting point is 00:05:11 from palestinians in gaza every hour spotlights a new campaign to help you connect connect with and fund those in distress and the featured campaign is always selected for most urgent need if you have any money and you wish to donate it please go to gaza direct.com find yourself a fundraiser to put some money into um update on fundraisers uh so we ended up i think grand total uh $12,000 uh to um the Gaza city flower fund that is yeah so uh I've been chatting uh with motion about that um he was very um you know he was very sweet about it he's been showing me videos and you know uh uh pictures of the food they're making and whatnot they even um added the bad has bar a logo to their like menu yeah oh my god yeah honor yeah i didn't know
Starting point is 00:06:13 they were going to do that and uh i uh yeah it's it is it's amazing it's also very funny to have badass barra be on the menu. Oh, you mean the text, not the picture of Netanyahu with a cherry tomato. No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I wouldn't want the people of Gaza to have to have to see this fucking genocidal mug. Yeah, no, it's just the text bad has barra is on their like letterhead and near the menu and near everything that they're making and stuff. And it's, it's very cool to see that. I didn't expect that. And, you know, right now, that is one fund of many that you can see at gazaDirect.com. So please, if you have any money, please send it over.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And thank you to everyone who was at the live stream and donated. That was very cool. Yeah, well done, everybody. Well, fucking done. We made $1,900 from just the like super chats and stuff alone, which is very cool. But, you know, throughout the live stream, we added another, you know, we added $10,000 to it, which was amazing. Couldn't believe that. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah. Daniel, what's the spin? Today I have a little journey through the... Oh, I love journey. Ideological or identity spectrum covered by this podcast. Starting on the nefarious side of things, Beck, Midnight Vultures, contains the line, She Looks So Israeli on the song, Nicotine and Gravy.
Starting point is 00:07:42 She looks so Israeli could mean anything. It's true. Really good. I think it's an ironic compliment. in the context of that album. Then we have the Silver Jews, David Berman's group. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:55 So, Israelis to Jews. This is a collaboration between two Montreal groups. One is called Sons with two U's. And the other one is called Jerusalem in My Heart. It was a Montreal-based Arab-Canadian. I'm not sure where he's from exactly DJ. And just so Jerusalem in my heart. So we got Israelis, Jews to Jerusalem.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. And then crossing over to the other side of the green line, Warren Zivon mentions Palestine. in this by name in the song Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner The Pixies shout out the Gaza Strip in the song River Euphrates on the album Sturfer Rosa And finally, getting all the way to the militant side of things Really taking a stand really no doubt as to where this guy sits
Starting point is 00:08:39 Method Man on the album Tikal has a song called Pello style Hell yeah Which I guess in the year 1995 five was still plausibly uh something uh yeah a sort of a synecdokey for uh if that's the right term for militancy and resistance as opposed to quizzling uh collaboration and uh yeah governments you ever heard uh method man talk about uh his uh love and connection with palestine i have not it's it's very um uh human in that like people it's just a video where someone asked him you know what's uh you're
Starting point is 00:09:17 love of Palestine. Can you explain? And he said, well, I live near a lot of Palestinians and a lot of Palestinian restaurants and they always treat me right. And I was just like, that's beautiful. I just, I love that. For him, it was just like, they're part of the community and they're good people and they are not racist towards me. That's freaking awesome. I mean, I guess he's talking about somewhere on Staten. I know that Bay Ridge just over the Verrazano from him has a ton of Palestinian restaurants but maybe maybe there's a statin contingent too actually there is because i saw a documentary about a palestinian dobka group um on statin island on statin island jesus christ yeah what a place to be Palestinian we're talking about like statin island i feel like has some of the uh um in terms of
Starting point is 00:10:05 like the Zionists who are there they're they're just like yich they're well they're terrible and yet they've managed to make a one statin solution work wow Very good. So that is what is spinning and neutral milk hotel up there in the corner. Yeah, I finally went in on some like Otts, Indy Rock that I've been holding. I was too old for it, I think, in that decade. I like distrusted it. And the idea of a group called Neutral Milk Hotel was just so twee.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I finally got it. And it's very good. And I got Tame Impala up there too. Oh, okay. Look at you, Branson. Fleet foxes and boards of Canada. Fleet foxes.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah. But those are not the spin this week. Don't put those on the playlist. Those are not on the playlist. Those are just in the background. Okay, we need to get to our guest. And we have, what a guest. A great guest.
Starting point is 00:11:00 He is a stand-up comedian. He is the host of the Quora Raiders podcast about answering questions from Quora. Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, proud to welcome our guest, Jeremy Kaplowis. Hi. How's it going? Thanks for having me. Good. How are you doing, dog? I'm good. I like your background for those viewing. It's got sort of a Wayne's World thing going on. Yeah, I've got like a green screen that I don't know. I just don't want people to look at my apartment, I guess. Oh, I see. Okay. Wow. Dan, the green screen did pretty good. Well, now I am seeing a little bit there's a pillow.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can change it. We've got like, my favorite thing to do is like if I'm in a Zoom meeting with someone who I probably shouldn't be fucking with. If they, like, leave to go to the bathroom, I quickly screenshot their background and I change it. So I have, like, this random guy's background and it's just like his house. That's great. You're just like, you're right next to him all the sudden. Yeah, see if they know. The Zoom is coming from inside the house. Yes, it's coming from inside the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You're not the same fan? Yeah, I guess. I don't know, man. Is that my wife? Love your color palette, dude. Yeah. Well, thank you for coming on the show. Real quick, we need to ask you about Quarators, because I love podcasts with ideas.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It sounds like you had an idea and made it into a podcast. Yeah. Tell me what it's about. It's about answering questions on Quora, I assume. Yeah, I'll tell you what the idea was. It was, what's the easiest podcast we could do? Israel, Palestine. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But make it funny. Yeah, funny Israel, Palestine. No, Quora is a website where people ask questions and other people answer questions and everyone on it is just like insane. So we just, um, we read people's questions. And then a cool thing about Quora is that everybody seems to put their like home address on the website. Yeah, what is that? They'll ask a question. Like a lot of them are like really perverted.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So they'll ask a question like, is it cool if I like fantasize about my mom having sex with me? And then it's like, I live in Des Moines. This is my full name. Yeah. Here are my cross streets. Yeah. I love that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Cora's a crazy. It's a weird website. It's a weird one. Yeah. I've yet to like go through Cora. I mean, it's like occasionally I'll Google and then it'll be like, this question is answered on Cora. And then I click it and it's never answered. I had no idea what it was until I tuned into your podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And I decided to just give it a try. I don't know if I'm doing it right. But I created a, I created a profile called Pod Curious. Hell yeah. Oh, look, you got, what is that, PC Principal? Yeah, I wanted to call him Pod Curious Principle. And my first question, but I wasn't quite sure how to submit it, but here it is. What do you guys think of the podcast, Pat Hasbara? Someone recommended it, but also I heard these guys might be secret antisemites. Oh, I'd love to hear what the people have to say about that.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I also love how the UI on the site is so bad that you can't figure out how to do the one thing you can do on the web, site which is ask a question truly it's like it's bloated with ads too so like sometimes i think i'm reading something and then it's like i've gotten like three sentences into some copy about like you know renting a vrbo and i'm just like just please answer question make easy you know it's a beautiful place jordan peterson got his start there uh what got cards on there it's crazy yeah borden peterson i don't think people know that like his um you know five rules for life book or whatever. Started as a Quora post?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah, he was just writing a much wrong Quora. And people were like, you got to put this in a book. Okay. Yeah. God damn. And from there, it just, uh, every answer would be something like, well, you're asking the question, but what the question is, where's the question coming from? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:02 People would be like, every question contains within it its own answer. There's like a 14 year old, like, my teacher's mad at me because I didn't do my homework. And he's like, she's a dragon. she represents chaos oh man well i'm going to have to spend more time on cora but uh yeah check out corators everybody listen to that podcast put it in your podcast playlist sticking in your ear holes yes so uh we need to uh talk a little bit about uh our top story there's one of those top stories that uh you know is just uh the the last few days have been very depressing at least for us in the Bad Hasbar group chat and in the Lieb household in general and probably throughout
Starting point is 00:15:48 your own household's dear Bad Hasbar listeners. There was a Israeli strike targeted assassination of a bunch of Al Jazeera journalists in Gaza City. And basically Merked a whole bureau. Yes. And, you know, this is coming on the backs of, of obviously almost two years now of just a brazen journalist murder that they've been doing. And so, you know, it's one of those situations where it's not surprising, but still incredibly shocking. So we have to start with this today. In terms of Hasbara, it's like just the more deadly and evil consequences of this type of Hasbara. you know um uh so his uh his name was uh anas al shirif uh and uh it was him and uh other aljazeera journalists
Starting point is 00:16:52 um they were murdered in an a aljazeera press tent outside of the al shifa hospital in eastern gaza city i assume the tent was marked press just like their shirts are yes yes um and this was uh you know israel thinks when they see press it means the button yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. They're always waiting to go, I don't know if I should. Oh, well, it says press. And then they do. And it was, you know, obviously the most famous, you know, of the journalist was Anas al-Sharif. But there were also other journalists killed. There's a guy, Muhammad Quarek. I can't pronounce it. Unfortunately, I'm sorry. Ibrahim Zahir Mohammed Nufal and a freelancer name Mohammed al-Khaldi and an assistant whose name I wasn't able to find. And, you know, it was one of those things where they had been telegraphing it, the Israeli government and also there has bars had been like saying essentially setting up all of the dominoes to fall at this point. They had been calling him, you know, a Hamas terrorist. They had been posting pictures of him with the crosshairs on him,
Starting point is 00:18:11 doing all the shit that lets everyone know who's been paying attention that, oh, they're going to openly murder this guy and take credit for it. Including most egregiously, I think, that Palestinian guy, Ahmed. What's his name? Have we talked about him on the show? Yes, yes. You know what? We have not done an episode on him yet.
Starting point is 00:18:32 That's snitch. Yeah, he is a writer for the Atlantic, and his entire thing is being the token Palestinian Hazbarist, who only writes about how the tragedy is Hamas's fault. Everything is Hamas's fault. He did an entire article about, like, Hamas is starving Gaza. And he had been, yeah, also targeting Anas for a... assassination as well. That's what happens when you have too many sleepovers with Jeffrey Goldberg. That's right. That's right. But yeah, so just some background on this. This is
Starting point is 00:19:14 from the Financial Times who actually did journalism about it. They said Sharif was among the last remaining Al Jazeera correspondence in Gaza, reporting mostly, most recently from northern Gaza, where a famine continues to unfold under an Israeli blockade. The strike on the journalist comes after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the army to prepare to expand its offensive and take over Gaza City. Now, Jeremy, let me ask you something, because I can't connect these two things. I mean, there's too random, just sort of, just the, what is the meaning of this sequence of events. Netanyahu announcing that they're going to invade Gaza City and complete the ethnic
Starting point is 00:20:02 cleansing and occupation of the Gaza Strip and then for some reason going and bombing five journalists and a press tent. Why would they do those two things consecutively? And this is this question for Jeremy, you say? As a comedian, I'm so glad that you guys to answer this question. As someone who handles questions for a living. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, You know, there's just no way to know. It's impossible to know. It's impossible to know. That's the answer I was looking at.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And the best way to know is to ask the perpetrators, I've always said. Definitely. Because they usually do have an answer. But yeah, they go on in this article to say, the IDF did not reply to a query regarding the timing of the killing. Sharif's location was widely known from his near daily broadcast outside of Shifa Hospital, including an emotional one in late July about a woman who had fainted reportedly
Starting point is 00:20:59 from hunger outside of the gates. It's funny to throw in the word reportedly when you're talking about what a journalist reported. Right, yeah. I mean, technically it's right. You know, he reported reportedly. But yeah, it is, I mean, obviously the connection here is like so crystal clear in terms of like
Starting point is 00:21:20 we are about to launch this major offensive in Gaza City, and the only journalists on the ground, you know, who are, people are putting their lives at risk in order to, like, you know, report, which is the job of reporter, reportedly, are the ones who are immediately murdered before this operation takes place. And I got to say, at a time when Western journalists and media people are starting to do the thing where they go like, you know, Israel, I think it's, I think it's doing a little bit too much, you know, like when they start going like, you know, I think we really need to put our arm around our best friend and say, hey, buddy, why you got to be like that? Maybe you calm down,
Starting point is 00:22:09 take a chill pill. Oh, come on. No one would literally say those words. No one would live. No real human being would actually speak that way. Yes, no. As I'm sure we'll find out later. As we will find out later. But it's like seeing the amount of uproar for like, let's say, Stephen Colbert getting canceled, getting a show canceled. Yeah. And then this story happens and just the Hezbarra machine takes over again. Everyone's brain just kind of like defaults to like, I don't know, whatever the IDF said, like, you know, settings. Look, man, if Gaza's journalists wanted to be lauded as a crucial piece of, you know, the cultural landscape and commenters on what's going on in the world, they should have dressed up as syringes and done the vaccine dance. That's right. Exactly. Trump should just say that Colbert is a terrorist. I don't know why Trump doesn't just say that he's got like a terrorist cell in New York of late night writers. That's a good point. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. I mean, they did have Zoron on his show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. They've got pictures of.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Colbert and Zoron together. Yeah, I mean, you know, the amount of uproar from that and then the silence, the sheer fucking like, not just silence, but also like justification and passive voice writing about this is just like, it's a reminder of the fact that every time you think for a second that any of these people are going to like open their fucking eyes, that they were just doing the thing that we've been asking for a while, which is give us lip service, at least, you know. To be genuinely fair, um, uh, fair me, Clarissa Ward of CNN, who's done all kinds of shady shit in the past, did do sort of an earnest seeming walk and talk on her way to work.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Uh, I love a walk and talk. Outraged about the killing of these journalists. Outraged about Israel's continued killing of journalists. and saying that behind the scene she and so many other journalists people are writing letters and signing petitions and whatever and so far it hasn't done a damn thing that's that's her quote um so it's something but it's hard to it's hard to get to uh cheerleady uh coming from seen one of cnn's propagandists over the past few years yeah yeah one of their husband bars for sure um uh i mean In terms of what media outlets have been doing, well, let's read a little bit from the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Check out this fucking headline. What to know about Al Jazeera, the broadcaster, targeted by Israel, okay? Al Jazeera, five of whose reporters, the broadcaster said, said were killed by an Israeli strike. The broadcaster broadcasted. Yeah. A reporter reported. has angered governments across the region that claim it gives voice to terrorists hold on what's angered governments across the oh the network has angered government al jazeera yes yes uh at claims it gives
Starting point is 00:25:27 voices to terrorists the outlet denies that i mean this is the type of reporting that they're doing on this is basically just to reinforce the israeli narrative which is just a fucking uh Al Jazeera is all terrorists. This was their entire excuse for everything they've done, you know, with regards to these journalists. They're just constantly tying Anas al-Sharif to Hamas. And they do so by like posting pictures of them together, you know, like you see this. This is from, I don't know, some schmuck.
Starting point is 00:26:06 only a terrorist sits in the gatherings of terrorists. A picture gathers the military activists in Hamas. This is obviously a translation disguised as a journalist alongside his terrorist comrades, or rather his leaders in Hamas, the ISIS likes in war and Al-Haya. And we now cut to coverage of the White House press dinner, starring Stephen Colbert. Yes Yeah The headline of the New York
Starting point is 00:26:37 Times article also Let's go back to that Yeah It's written like one of those articles where they're like What you need to know about Christopher Nolan's new movie We don't
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's gonna come out in three years I don't know Yes Yes it does have the like Same kind of tone Like sociopathic tone Of a listicle About asking about
Starting point is 00:26:59 When season three Of The Last of Us Is gonna come out You know And the answer is always like, oh, I don't know, man. We just kind of created this through an algorithm. There's a teaser. You saw it.
Starting point is 00:27:10 That's what we know. Yeah. More subconsciously, I think it functions as a, before you feel badly about these people, here's what you need to know. So you're considering having human compassion and ordinary everyday moral outrage. Well, here's what you need to know
Starting point is 00:27:27 before you embark on that perilous journey. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, this is what this type of of Hasbara has served to do for a while, which is just kind of like give you the proper context in which to continue to ignore, why, you know, like, why everyone's so angry? And that is the liberal approach to Hasbara. That's how you hasbarize liberals, because liberals want to know what they need to know before they can compartmentalize things away.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah, there's like this deep need of liberals to be like, like this fear of emotion as a manipulative tool to a degree where anytime there is something horrifying they kind of go like well there's got to be some other information that explains unless Trump did it
Starting point is 00:28:17 right right unless like an open and out and open like political enemy has done it they're like wait wait wait wait wait wait certainly there's no reason to be this mad about anything and that's like their constant refrain It's just like, there's got to be a reasonable explanation that will allow me to continue to ignore this.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Slava, Ukrainey. Yeah. So. Jeremy, are you going to say some? I was just thinking it reminds me a lot of like in the U.S. If any, you know, when the police kill anyone and they're like, well, he smoked weed a few times. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Here's what you need to know. Here's the background. Yes. Yeah. And like, you know, it's the constant like he was no angel. refrain of any time there's a killing of an unarmed black man, it's just kind of like, well, have you seen this picture of him, you know, like looking tough? And it's, it's just like watching that be repeated over and over again by liberals. It's just like, it's just disgusting
Starting point is 00:29:23 given the fact that they're like, at this point, allowing themselves to be like, well, starvation is bad for sure, right? you know we've got like that's that's that's that's wrong and then immediately they can yeah it's fucking fucking gross um well because liberals can relate to being hungry they can't relate to being bombed yeah exactly yeah um the bishops brunch is late yes the uh the BBC did this um this is just a quick clip from them um you know again repeating the Hasbara Throughout the war, there's the question of proportionality. Is it justified to kill five journalists when you were only targeting one?
Starting point is 00:30:10 What? Yeah. Holy shit. Did he really just say, is it asked the philosophical, Socratic question? Is it justifiable to kill five journalists when you're only targeting one? The age old question. If you're trying to kill one guy. And you kill older guys.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Is that all right? Is that, Jeremy, is that something you can answer from Quora? Yeah, that actually is kind of a Quora-esque question. How many journalists, let's figure out the math on how many journalists are okay to kill.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yes, the collateral damage on journalists as being some, like, well, this is always asked in J schools throughout the world, is how many of us can die and it be okay if one is Bad. Yeah, the Supreme Court actually ruled on this. No, but but the crazy part, think of that framing. It's not like there's, it would be bad enough if they said, how many journalists are you allowed to kill in order to get one armed militant who mass raped people on October 7th? Right, right, right, right. Some bullshit construction like that. That would be bad enough. But that is sort of the, that's where proportionality in international law, which itself is a deeply problematic concept, comes in. That would be bad enough. That would be. be a fair use of that.
Starting point is 00:31:33 But what they said is, how many journalists are you allowed to kill in order to kill one journalist? Who says you have the right to kill a single fucking journalist? Also, like, I'm not like, you know, particularly pro-Russia or whatever, but isn't that, like, the big thing that people always say about Russia where they're like, they kill journalists over there. Yes. Well, if they were targeting it, then that's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah. Yeah, it is, it is like, I mean, that constant double standard is like, you can see that, even in the tone of the articles that are written about it. Like, one will say, like, you know, Putin lying about a journalist in order to imprison him for life. And then, you know, when it comes to Israel, it's just like, I don't know, IDF says tweets were genocidal in nature and therefore it's okay. And they just allow it. They just let it happen. That question is so fucked up because it's coming.
Starting point is 00:32:30 from a journalist. That's another journalist who's just like, well, we've always wondered how many of us need to die in order to kill the right guy? It's these guys, I mean, a lot of these guys would probably say, under oath, if it like gunned to their head,
Starting point is 00:32:51 they'd be like, I got into this business, not because it's safe, but because it actually contains dangerous. And it would be my honor to be a assassinated by the IDF in the line of TV. 100%. Yeah, it's like there was one reason and one reason alone that I became a journalist. And it was to cower in the face of the IDF and give them what they won't.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Like, yeah, man, I can't like, it's so hard watching that shit and who they're talking about, you know. Anas and all of his journalist colleagues who have displayed more bravery in the last 18 months than any of these
Starting point is 00:33:42 fuckers could conjure ever in their lives. He was 28 years old. A father of a young girl, there's an incredible video of him with his daughter. He's playfully asking her hey, they want us to leave. Are we going to leave? And she says, no, we're not going to leave.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He says, well, what if we go to Egypt? She says, we don't want to go to Egypt. We want to stay in Gaza. Well, what if we go to Jordan? No, we're going to stay in Gaza. And he's just, he's holding her and they're smiling at the camera. I mean, he's just such a likable. Not that Palestinians have to be likable in order for their lives to matter.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But he was clearly a dedicated, passionate man of considerable integrity and more courage than any of us. Yeah. We'll ever need to muster. I think at some point, maybe before the break, we'll read his. last Will and Testament, which I think maybe his own words will speak it more eloquently than I can. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like the disservice of having to, like the people reporting on the death of a real journalist who actually put his life on the line every fucking day to report something that the Israeli government is so afraid of being reported that they have banned journalism and killed journalists across the strip. Like, then you're being fucking, you're being eulogized by these fucking snakes at the BBC who are just like, well, as we all know, this death took place in a vacuum, you know, how, is it okay to kill five other journalists to kill one? And it's like, even if that were something you were willing to be like, yeah, fine, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:35:21 That's written in international law or something. what about the 200 plus other journalists who have been killed in the last 22 months? Like, the fools are just, every atrocity exists as its own outlier. And it makes me want to fucking scream. You know what I mean? Sorry, I'm getting a little. I'm going to get a whole. I'd love to know what was the report after the BBC thing, too, if it just cut to like,
Starting point is 00:35:49 and now we're on the streets of London determining what the best ice cream flavor is. Yeah. Oh, me fiber, ice cream fiber is pigeon. Yeah. What else were they reporting on that day? Oh, man. So, I mean, in terms of the other Hasbara, I got to read a little bit from this is, this is insane. So the National Post, the National Post is not a newspaper. I'm all that familiar with. Daniel, you seem to know this. This is a Canadian thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the National Post arose in the mid-90s, I think, to counter the globe and mail, which is sort of Canada's paper of record, which isn't saying much, but it's, you know, the main one.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And the National Post is sort of a more conservative version of it. And it's become quite the right wing rag over the years. It was owned by Conrad Black, who was like Canadian, mogul, British Lord asshole. I love you guys got your own guys. Yeah. It's just like Conrad Black. I don't know. He sounds bad.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah. He's bad. yeah so the national post is a ridiculous outlet yes but very widely read yes and they put out this post talking about anas in which they said IDF kills Hamas terror cell leader posing as quote Al Jazeera journalist yeah don't know why there's quotes around Al Jazeera in that there should be quote quotes around National Post yeah exactly Actually, especially since you discovered something incredible, Matt. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:26 So the article itself is right here, and it says, the Israeli strike in Gaza slays Anas al-Sherif, who Israel says posed as an Al-Jazeera journalist while directing rocket attacks for Hamas. And it says, by National Post-Wire Services, this was actually updated when we took it, before when they initially reported the story, it was, the byline was the Jewish news syndicate, which if you think is made up, we've covered the Jewish news syndicate. That's the group that Norm Coleman was visiting. He talked about how Jews are the master of the universe. Why aren't we controlling the narrative? Yes. Yes. Adams says the media control amalgamated. Yes. Like, the Jewish News Syndicate, if you listen to this podcast, you know about it because of their insanely anti-Semitic coded name.
Starting point is 00:38:28 And the fact that this was straight up just written by something called the Jewish New Syndicate, it's funny that they immediately changed the title. They were like, we got to change this byline. People might think, I don't know. Yeah, that is by the Jewish news syndicate They might think that Yeah, they might think it's written by A Propaganda outlet doing pro-Israel propaganda And from that they might conclude
Starting point is 00:38:56 That there's a syndicate of Jews who control the news Syndicate is never like a positive word, is it? I've never heard people say syndicate Popa-Lahs. Ice-Tees posse was called Rhyme Syndicate And I can't imagine that that would be based on anything nefarious They just like to rhyme No one has ever self-applied syndicate.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Like, it's an insane thing to call it. I just, motherfucker, is you bylining a criminal conspiracy? That's crazy. Shout out Stringer Bell. But yeah, this, you know, and this article, of course, just repeats all the same fucking talking points,
Starting point is 00:39:35 you know, about Anas being a secret Hamas terrorist. You know, the Israel Defense Forces, killed Anas al-Sharif who posed as a journalist for the Qatari al-Jazeera network but was actively serving as the head of a Hamas terrorist cell okay so now we got he's not just he's not just part of Hamas he's the head of a cell and no attribution in none paragraph sized sentence yeah zero attribution that the only attribution comes at the next to the end of the next sentence yes where he says the IDF previously released intelligence and recovered many documents in Gaza that confirmed Al-Sharif's, quote, military role within Hamas.
Starting point is 00:40:20 These materials included personal rosters, records of terrorist training courses, phone directories, and salary documents, all substantiating his involvement as a combatant and commander in Hamas. I mean, again, he's a commander. They recovered in Minkmp, Shepherkeepers from his children's bedroom. Exactly, exactly. No one has the time to be a journalist and a terrorist. Those are two full-time jobs, seriously. A hundred percent, that is, I mean, straight up, that is the truth of it.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Anyone who is actually posing that this is an excuse that would make sense in any way as knows nothing about journalism, especially knows nothing about being, you know, a journalist in a war zone. Comedian and podcaster? Certainly. Yes, because of all the time. Those actually both are a quarter of a day. job but even jeffrey yeah even once you have those two you still have to yeah but but geoffrey goldberg was not running the atlantic and torturing Palestinians at uh the ketsa prison and he did one and then the other exactly yes it was a it was a sabbatical and also i just love the idea that this person
Starting point is 00:41:32 who reported every single fucking day during a genocide uh and reported out in the open And you knew where he was. He had a fucking, you know, there was no secret. He was not in hiding anywhere. The idea that, like, as soon as the camera was off, they're like, well, what was he doing then? And it's like preparing for the next fucking, you know, thing he's going to report on. The idea that he is leading that kind of double life is such fucking horseshit. It defies, like, I don't know, any fucking, I mean, obviously it's all bad faith.
Starting point is 00:42:09 It's all just people like making shit up, but fuck and A, if it's not the most egregiously evil shit. The evidence also highlighted Al-Sherif's integration within Al Jazeera, despite the media network's efforts to distance itself from his activities. Yeah, the documents detail Al-Sherif's position as a fighter and cell leader since his enlistment in Hamas in 2013. I mean, you know, this is constant talk about the document. The documents, the documents, the documents. And meanwhile, the documents... I think 28 also?
Starting point is 00:42:47 2013, would be like 15 years old or 16? Yeah, yes. Well, they're, you know, they get them early. They teach their kids how to hate. They teach their kids how to write copy. And then they teach them how to hate. Yes. Because they need to be journalists and terrorists at the same time.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Right, yeah. And, you know, like this constant refrain of like, oh, Israel, has this information that ties it all together. I mean, the truth of it is, Israel has been doing what it's done for every targeted assassination is done out in the open, which was like we're going to lay the groundwork early on. We're going to start posting about how, oh, this guy actually works for Hamas.
Starting point is 00:43:30 It's fucking Israel's version of, we really need to get out ahead of this. Yeah. That's usually for crisis management after something. They get out ahead of every. every single assassination. Right. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I'm sorry. The idea that they think that that is a reasonable excuse, that's just called premeditation. That's just coming up. That's called the chilling of the blood in which you murder. Yeah. That's exactly. Very cold-blooded. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Well, you know, there's two sides of every story. And me and my fellow colleagues at the syndicate are rubbing our hands together on this issue. And we're sniffing out the news. all eight of your tentacles Yeah, exactly. We're just sitting here, hand-wringing, thinking about how we're going to explain this to the world.
Starting point is 00:44:19 You know, people say like, too evil. You know, oh, there's all this like anti-semitism. You know, every time someone lands on like free parking and monopoly, we have to like call the ADL or whatever. And that's like the fucking Jewish news syndicate. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Some guy in London pulled a really funny prank on the police. they arrested him for wearing a free free Palestine or is it it was Palestine it was Palestine action but actually if you look closely it says plasticine action and there's a picture of a claymation figure
Starting point is 00:44:52 and they had to release him once they realized it was misspelled oh my God yeah I mean no yeah the you know the amount of groundwork that was laid in order to openly and publicly execute him and his colleagues is insane, especially given what Israel decides to tweet as fact,
Starting point is 00:45:16 is usually just pictures of things that they're like, well, here's our documents. Here's the IDF doc dump. So it starts off with struck. Hamas terrorist, Anas al-Shareep, who posed as an Al-Jazeera journalist. He was the head of a Hamas terrorist cell and advanced. rocket attacks on Israeli civilians and IDF troops. Intelligence and documents from Gaza, including yada, yada, yada, is proof here. A press badge isn't a shield for terrorism.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So now everything that they posted is just... So it's a list of Hamas operatives in Northern Gaza Strip Brigade. And, you know, they've got... It's the same thing they do with every fucking thing where they're like, we found the list. If there's one thing that Hamas is really good at is putting their spies and operatives in fucking Google presentation and or Google spreadsheets, the idea that all of these people are always found somewhere in the Gaza Strip on a printed out spreadsheet should cause any journalist to pause. Yeah, rendered with fancy graphics, no doubt, by the division of the Israeli army that's populated with people on like various spectrum. that are not fit for combat or field operations, but they're really good with Canva.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And this is pressuring like Google and Canva to remove Hamas' accounts. I know. That's what we should be focused on. Exactly, exactly. I mean, the real problem here is that the Google Cloud is allowing, you know, yahya.sinwar at gmail.com to continue distributing information. So this is an image that they posted in which is that, and this is,
Starting point is 00:47:11 image has been shared everywhere. Every time someone goes, yo, Israel just, like, assassinated a bunch of journalists. Someone will post this. Like, oh, journalist, you say, well, here is Anas Jamal al-Sharif, his enlistment date. Date of birth, March 12th, 1996. Enlistment date to Hamas, March 12th, 20, what is this, barely legal? like they were waiting for him to turn 17 exactly like it's like a fucking driver's license well first you get the Hamas learners permit and you can and you can be Hamas but with parental
Starting point is 00:47:49 supervision and then once you hit 17 then you officially can be Hamas and rent a Hamas car the Hamas mobile yes organizational affiliation Hamas Hamas East Jabalia Battalion Positions held Head of a terrorist cell in a Hamas guided rocket's platoon who posed as a journalist Man, the font on that business card
Starting point is 00:48:15 was sure small. Yeah, dude, it is hard to read. I love, yeah, it is shaped like a business card here where they're like... Positions held. That was his official position. Yeah. I think the one thing that people should know
Starting point is 00:48:29 is anyone can get Canva and make up a bunch of shit about someone. And it becomes true. And it becomes true immediately. If it's done on Canva and saved as a PNG, then it's real.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And I know this because Adam made some laying the groundwork for our execution. Here is yours, Daniel. Daniel Mate, cold, unemotional, prefers the experience of Spotify ad tear to vinyl frequently at loss for words little squiggle thing
Starting point is 00:49:07 over the E is fake yeah that is true Spotify ads are not a shield yeah exactly here I am drones yeah Matt Leap low key is not that tall actually has no opinion on
Starting point is 00:49:23 gobble gul does a perfect English accent any region nose ball do I know ball Adam what do you mean I know ball I'll let you I'll let you answer in the lower Adam's jokes are so inside that's well all jokes start out inside the head yeah you can just make
Starting point is 00:49:46 any fucking PNG you want Hassan decried your lack of ball of ball knowledge it wasn't just ball knowledge Adam it was my skill and I also decry that Yeah. It is completely depressing and unconscionable. It was so clear that they were laying the groundwork for his death, so much so that he had published a tweet with his last Will and Testament when they knew, you know, after months of stalking and very recently months of weeks of them doing open threats, basically, we're going to find you, we're going to kill you. And this is what they did, you know, they did this. refat they do this with everybody uh so he published um his uh yeah his last will and testament on uh twitter and uh i have that here uh daniel you can read that all right this is a rough read
Starting point is 00:50:45 this is i mean this is beautiful and heartbreaking um and there will not be any jokes throughout this part of the podcast today this is my will and my final message if these words reach you know that Israel has succeeded in killing me and silencing my voice. First, peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings. Allah knows I gave every effort and all my strength to be a support and a voice for my people, ever since I opened my eyes to life in the alleys and streets of the Jabalya refugee camp. My hope was that Allah would extend my life so that I could return with my family and loved ones to our original town of occupied Ascalan al-Majdal, which I assume. is now Ashkelon in Israel.
Starting point is 00:51:32 But Allah's will came first, and his decree is final. I have lived through pain in all this details. You know, by the way, I'm never jealous of other people's religions, except when I read the words of Muslims accepting, like, facing mortality. There is something about this particular liturgy and attitude towards the inevitable, which is ultimately inevitable for all of us, but in particular in the cases of Palestinians where the inevitability,
Starting point is 00:52:05 the method, the form that the inevitability takes is so intolerable, and so unfathomable and so unjust, it kind of, it silences something in me in a way that is very moving. But Allah's will came first and his decree is final. I have lived through pain and all its details,
Starting point is 00:52:24 tasted suffering and loss many times, yet I never once hesitated to convey the truth as it is without distortion or falsification so that Allah may bear witness against those who stayed silent, those who accepted our killing, those who choked our breath, and whose hearts were unmoved by the scattered remains of our children and women, doing nothing to stop the massacre that our people have faced for more than a year and a half. I entrust you with Palestine, the jewel in the crown of the Muslim world, the heartbeat of every free person in this world. I entrust you with its people, with its wrong than innocent children who never had the time to dream or live in safety and peace. Their pure
Starting point is 00:53:06 bodies were crushed under thousands of tons of Israeli bombs and missiles torn apart and scattered across the walls. I urge you not to let chains silence you, nor borders restrain you. Be bridges toward the liberation of the land and its people until the sun of dignity and freedom rises over our stolen I entrust you to take care of my family. I entrust you with my beloved daughter, Sham, the light of my eyes, whom I never got the chance to watch grow up as I had dreamed. I entrust you with my dear son Salah, whom I had wished to support and accompany through life until he grew strong enough to carry my burden and continue the mission.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I entrust you with my beloved mother, whose blessed prayers brought me to where I am, whose supplications were my fortress and whose light guided my path. I pray that Allah grants her strength and rewards her on my behalf with the best of rewards. I also entrust you with my lifelong companion, my beloved wife, Um, Salah Bayan, from whom the war separated me for many long days and months. Yet she remained faithful to our bond, steadfast as the trunk of an olive tree that does not bend, patient, trusting in Allah, and carrying the responsibility in my absence with all her strength and faith. I urge you to stand by them, to be their support after Allah Almighty.
Starting point is 00:54:28 If I die, I die steadfast upon my principles. I testify before Allah that I am content with his decree, certain of meeting him, and assured that what is with Allah is better and everlasting. O Allah, make me, accept me among the martyrs, forgive my past and future sins, and make my blood a light that illuminates the path of freedom from my people and my family. Forgive me if I have fallen short and pray for me with mercy, for I kept my promise and never changed or betrayed it. Do not forget Gaza and do not forget me in your sincere prayers for forgiveness and acceptance. Anas Jamal al-Sharif. I'm assuming that's the 4th of June in 2025 or
Starting point is 00:55:13 could be the 6th of April. Yeah. This is what our beloved Anas requested to be published upon his martyrdom. Well, on that note, you know, I think we should take a quick break. And when we come back, we will be dry-eyed and we will start, you know, the part where we aren't sad. Our eyes will be dry and so will our satirical powder. And so will my, you know what, we'll be right back. And we're back This Bad As Barra The World's Most Moral Podcast And we're here with Jeremy
Starting point is 00:56:02 Kappluid How you doing? Hey You're emotional Fuck yeah dude You've gone back And watched that commercial And sort of
Starting point is 00:56:11 Remembered what it was like To first see that commercial Like I remember feeling like Shit we're in some new Reality and we were It was the start of memes yeah yeah that was like the first meme ever and we all got it from tv and not from the internet and we all started doing was-up with each other and one thing led to another and and now like
Starting point is 00:56:33 now Donald Trump yeah is our president now that's what that was on south park yeah we should uh like if i had a time machine i go back in time and kill the was-up guys you know that was that would help um so speaking of whatever we were just talking about um we need to talk a little bit about mayor pete mayor pete went on a uh show that has uh purportedly claimed to save america uh and uh he went on to talk with john favro of the of the the crooked media variety not the Swingers variety he answered a few questions about Palestine that everyone's been sending this
Starting point is 00:57:22 to us like crazy he answered answered a few questions he said some things after a question was asked yes and we got this would never fly on Quora no on Quora everyone just gets down to business so yeah here is
Starting point is 00:57:38 Mayor Pete ex head of the Department of Transportation talking with John Favreau about stuff. An ex-human being. Like, let's just take a look at him, first of all, with these shots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:55 He was very AI in it. Yeah, he does, straight up. Like, look at this. Look at this. Extremely AI generated. Which led Matt to one of your best nickname puns ever. Yeah, he looks like fucking rat GPT. Like, he is straight up just like, and the way he like looks and the way he answers
Starting point is 00:58:15 questions. Everything about it seems like an AI prompt like this is somehow his face has six fingers. Yes. It feels like he was like generated in a lab to be president but he's still so far from ever having
Starting point is 00:58:31 it happened. He's just like it's so weird. And every like I mean look at the with like the beard itself. I'm just like come on guy like I love when a fucking politician is like I need I need a rebrand. Someone get me one of those working class
Starting point is 00:58:46 beards and I'm sorry but he can't every still yeah this is from a different it's from a different dimension
Starting point is 00:58:55 and his background looks faker than yours Jeremy yeah yeah god look at that any 90s comedy background
Starting point is 00:59:02 meanwhile this is what John Fabra looks like oh god all right I think like the teletubbies set what is going on
Starting point is 00:59:10 at Pod Save America what is happening there oh yeah he does kind of look like He's about to check in with the tidily tubbies. But here is the question that was asked. And, you know, credit where credit is due, I feel like after Tommy Vitor and I yelled at each other online, I have been happy with the fact that they have at least
Starting point is 00:59:37 dedicated a few of their episodes, moments in a few of their episodes to talk about Israel, Palestine and to talk about the genocide and to like openly discuss it if only an electoral sort of fashion. Wow, but they've called for a full arms embargo and they even said in sort of a slightly round about by like, look, we were part of the problem. We were part of the Obama administration. Like, Mayacopa and like, we got to try to make this right. Right, yeah. So that's not nothing.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I just hope that that lasts. Like in 2028, when somebody runs to the left, I hope they're not like, well, I mean, come on, guys, please be pragmatic about this. Right, exactly. Or when Buttigieg is running, you know, they'll be like, right, exactly. He's the best we got. And the fact, you know, that they would ask Pete these questions, Mayor Pete, these questions also speaks to them at the very least trying to not, if not hold these people accountable. But like, doing what I told Tommy Vitor, I was like, who the fuck is stopping you? Use your Podsafe powers and fucking get go through the Rolodex.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Start calling guys and be like, hey, seems like Israel's bad. You're like Hans Solo talking to C3PO. Well, if you're such a God, then command him. Yes. I mean, but straight up, you know, and credit where creditors do, they've done it. So here's them asking Mayor Pete. And not in a way that's like I'm going to hold him, you know, his feet to the fire. just like a simple question that he uh well let's hear his answer do you think it's time to recognize
Starting point is 01:01:18 a palisinian state i think that that's uh that's a profound question that no it's not i'm sorry it's just i think that's a profound question how have it all right a lot of the biggest problems that have happened with uh israel survival israel's survival okay hold on hold on go back, we missed a key verb there. Yes. That's a profound question that what? I think that that's a profound question that arouses a lot of the biggest problems that have happened with Israel's survival.
Starting point is 01:01:54 The questions are making the problems aroused, says Produce Adda. Yeah, we got to be careful with, you know, some of these problems get pretty rambunctious, all torped up. We don't want to get you start getting the problems bricked up then they're going to be thrown. I'll just say that much. You know, I mean, just the
Starting point is 01:02:19 cowardice of this statement. Like, you're asking It's a hard problem. You don't want that problem to get any harder. Yeah, yeah. You're asking some pretty horny questions. Right to survival in the diplomatic scene. And many of the people who have taken that step
Starting point is 01:02:35 historically have done And so for different reasons than what we see happening with European countries. A diplomatic scene. I have no idea what the fuck he's talking about here. Let's try to parse it. The arousal thing, too, is making me, is repainting this whole thing for me, too. Because now I'm, like, looking at his eyes. And it's like, I think, like, if you've worked at McKinsey, like, you just get horny at the idea of, like, not answering a foreign policy question.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Yeah. Who's to say? I don't know. That's part of the internship, you know, when we're there at first, they just, they just, they keep checking your dick to make sure that the problems being aroused are yeah you sort of give a rim job counterclockwise to the question you know you flip your tongue around it mm-hmm you ever see that like old tosh point oh bit where he like tries to find out how gay his employees are by making them all watch gay porn and seeing which of them gets a boner yeah that should be like
Starting point is 01:03:30 the democratic party like they just show like shitty answers to israel questions and then Each candidate for president, they see who gets the hardest. Yeah, yeah, they need to measure the quantity of blood and boner to see who gets, whose problems are more aroused. Yeah, but him trying to answer this is just baffling. Problems that have happened with Israel's survival, Israel's right to survival in the diplomatic scene. And many of the people who have taken that step historically have done so for different reasons. Pause. Israel's never had a problem with it.
Starting point is 01:04:07 right to survival in the quote unquote diplomatic scene. In the diplomatic scene. And he's talking about, well, you know, the people who have done that in the past have had other reasons than the, uh, than those in Europe. So you're saying, I'm sorry, just to be clear that the problem is that, uh, the Arabs, uh, have always wanted a Palestinian state for the wrong reason. And now the, uh, Europeans who are calling for a Palestinian state want it for the right reason, in which case, do you support that? Which is a real, that's the first question. I love the preamble. If we can regime change all the Arab states and make them subservient to Western powers and then get them to subsort a Palestinian state for the right reasons, which is that it would be
Starting point is 01:04:53 one more subservient Arab state completely demilitarized. Then it would wipe the slate clean from all the bad reasons. Yes. And as far as I can tell, it seems like, I mean, if you're talking about the UK, the right reasons he's talking about for a Palestinian state are as a bargaining chip that's why the UK is doing it they're like hey that Jeremy where they're threatened unless you this and that we're going to recognize your enemies
Starting point is 01:05:19 we're going to start thinking these are people if you don't kill yeah you better watch out yeah I just hate when there's scene drama it just it bums me out yeah scene drama and the diplomatic scene is some of the worst because I mean what's the point of a diplomatic scene if there's drama.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Have you ever gone cruising in the diplomatic scene lately? When I was growing up, I was a diplomatic scene kid. My hair was all straight and I would fucking listen to all the diplomatic scene music. Screamo mostly. Here we go. It's happening with European
Starting point is 01:05:52 countries. I think we need to step back and we need to do whatever it takes to ensure that there is a real two-state solution and that no one, not even the likes of Netanyahu, can veto the international community's commitment to a two-state solution
Starting point is 01:06:07 Hold on a fucking second. I hadn't seen that part. That no one, not even Netanyahu, can veto the international community's consensus about a two-state solution. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:22 That consensus has existed since the early 1970s. Right. And the consensus was... It's called UN Resolution 242. Yes. It is voted on, every single November
Starting point is 01:06:35 in the General Assembly. The entire world has voted one way with a few cowardly abstentions from certain Western powers, which is to say they've voted for it. And the two countries that have voted against it repeatedly are the U.S. and Israel and then like the Marshall Islands
Starting point is 01:06:55 and Nehru and Palau or whatever. Every single fucking year. Now, which of those two countries is closest to? have something called veto power. Right. You ask how many fucking resolutions condemning Israel, compelling Israel,
Starting point is 01:07:11 restraining Israel, has the U.S. vetoed? All of them. What a fucking asshole. Yes. I mean, this robot is. I mean, I... Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It's weird to call a droid an asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to remember at the end of the day, he's not sentient, and he's only learning from scraping the internet. We need to capture him the way they did with K2 Solo and, uh, or K2SO and reprogram them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Make him cute and dead. Revolutionary Pete Buttigieg. Yeah, too. Well, I just think that we should kill Netanyahu. Yeah. Well, it was, uh, well, it's a very profound question and my answer is death, death to the IDF. Um, yeah, like the, the, it's him flipping the framing. Would you like to know how many democratic norms you've violated?
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah. Never tell me the odds. All right. Well, let's finish. Palestinians and Israelis living with safety, with security, with rights. I believe that can happen. We have to actually show some commitment to it. There should be some rights.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah, yeah. There should be rights. And there should be this two-state solution. I mean, it is just watching the cowardice. It's like, you can see in his eyes, I scared, which is so funny to me because I'm just like, well, certainly I prepared right like be prepared for answering this question in a way that I mean if you're going to be like a little you know I don't know weasel about it tell your eyes I don't know practice in the mirror there's something about the fear behind like something as simple as Palestinian statehood and I'm sorry but it is simple I'm like I'm I'm done with this idea of the the complication behind saying that this. Like, bro, you weren't, but that would, you're not in power. You are, you, you, you can say whatever you want. Look, preparing too much would kill the ethos of the Democratic Party when it
Starting point is 01:09:12 comes to Israel. They're an improv troupe. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except the premise is always the same. Yes, right. All right. I need a suggestion from the audience. Um, uh, let's see, uh, free Palestine. Uh, free palest, uh, yes. I have means testing. Did you see the beginning of that video too Where they're like He says like Look Israel has a right to defend itself But like if people are starving
Starting point is 01:09:37 Because of a choice made by a government Like that's really bad Yes And then he says like we should give them weapons But like make sure they're not using it for bad stuff Yeah we have that We have the clip where you do with a friend Yes
Starting point is 01:09:51 Good stuff for these weapons Yeah yeah Here's a continued Mayor Pete Answering some more questions in a brave fashion. How do you think the next administration should handle our relationship with Israel? Do you think it should change based on what Netanyahu has done the last several years?
Starting point is 01:10:10 Well, certainly Netanyahu can't be the only voice or kind of the only compass for what should happen in the U.S.-Israel relationship. No, we should listen to Ben-Givir too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about Smotrich. We should listen to their voices. Exactly. Yeah. You know, I mean, honestly, I feel like Yov Galant has some really good ideas. Naftali Bennett. Maybe just anyone in the Knesset. Anyone. Miriam Adelson and Coleman Hughes for diversity.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Absolutely. Absolutely. Coleman Hughes has some ideas about good guys and bad guys. Yeah. Here's how strongly, or especially because of how strongly you might believe in Israel's right to exist and defend itself, you don't have to make a excuses for the choices that Netanyahu is making, especially because they are often made not only in the name of the Israeli people, but in the name of Jews all around the world because it is explicitly anti-Somatic? Of a U.S. alliance. Oh, that I think that we as Israel's strongest ally and friend, you put your arm around your friend when there's something like this going on and talk about what we're prepared to do
Starting point is 01:11:24 together. He's talking about Israel like it's Seth Rogan and James Franco. What are you talking about? I mean, it's a it's a good analogy because, you know, one is a notorious sex fiend
Starting point is 01:11:40 and sex pest. But like- bombing, keep starving, knowing you can always count on for sure. That's what friends are for. Yeah, like the idea of Of, you know, as buddies, you got to put your arm around your buddy and you expect him to be like and tell them, hey, you got to stop acting up like this.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Putting your arm around your buddy and then discussing what we can do together. Sounds like you're joining in on whatever fucking crime the buddy is committing. Bro, bro, slow down. I want in on this. Yeah, yo. Hey, hey, bro, leave some for me, you know. I also like, you know how, like, I feel like making the line, the starvation thing is almost darker, too. Because it's like, does that mean that you are on board with the like shooting babies?
Starting point is 01:12:31 Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, exactly. It's like the line that he sets down is like, you know, starvation where he goes like, you know, starvation is, you know, starvation is unconscionable and all this stuff. Well, from a populist America first perspective, which I don't know if that's the turn he's going to take la J.D. Vance. by the time of the next election. It does make sense
Starting point is 01:12:54 because there's no money to be made in starving people. You can't even sell food to them. But think of all the bullet factories. The bullets, exactly. In rural Indiana that are not being used when we're killing people by mass starvation as opposed to nuclear bombs. Right, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:13 It's a good point. I mean, you know, like starvation, I mean, there's an entire market wiped out. Think of the markets. He's a McKinley guy. or McKinsey, whatever it's fucking called. Yeah. It's funny how McKinsey has Kinsey in it, you know, the Kinsey scale.
Starting point is 01:13:32 I mean, there's something there. The McKinsey scale. Yeah. Of how arous you get by prevaricated. Yeah. I'm like a two on the McKinsey scale. I mostly don't want to fix markets, but like if it's one that's really hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Let's hear the end of this shit. The strongest ally and friend, you put your arm around your friend when there's something like this going on. Something like what? Yeah, yeah. Something like what, Pete? Something like stuff? What kind of stuff? What we're prepared to do together?
Starting point is 01:14:07 And it cannot be, certainly cannot be what we see right now from this administration and this president talking about beachfront property in Gaza before he's prepared to talk about human suffering in Gaza. Yeah. So again, I just want to. repeat the question the next administration should handle our relationship with Israel. Do you think it should change based on what Netanyahu has done the last several years? I mean, the idea that this question was answered with a long screed about how sometimes you just have to like, you know, put your arm around your best friend and say, hey, you know, it ain't fun if the homies can't have none. Like, what else is Trump doing but put
Starting point is 01:14:51 his arm around our friend and saying what can we do together right exactly what is trump's policy what has been the you know the the last few decades of uh the israel u.s relationship other than that i mean i mean and to be honest what is the mad scientist who programmed you pete aka baroque obama what did he do i feel like also that's like what the democrats want like that's their their political goal is just to discuss human suffering like there's no it can't be like hey let's stop like funding it with like actively with taxpayer dollars it's like you should talk about it ideally in aspen yeah yeah exactly it's why they it's it's why among many reasons it's why they lost to trump uh this time around was because like they couldn't even do that they couldn't
Starting point is 01:15:39 even do the lip service thing it's taken this long to do the gobbledy gook like lip service that Pete Buttigieg just did. It's taken this long. And the fact that they couldn't do it before was so glaring because it's like, isn't your whole thing being like, oh my God, I fucking hate suffering? Like, that's your whole thing. And doing nothing about it,
Starting point is 01:16:05 but you at least said suffering bad. Like the idea that like now they're like, okay, we've come around to the point where when someone asks us if we should change our relationship with Israel, we can say loudly and proudly we need to put our arm around our friend and join in on the fun we need to
Starting point is 01:16:24 it's like now we can say out loud man it kind of seems like this administration is not good when it comes to Israel but he still can't say of course the relationship needs to fundamentally change or using our weapons in order to do war crimes
Starting point is 01:16:41 now it's just it's gross to say that you want to build a hotel or whatever that's right yeah yeah Exactly, exactly. He's doing it in a nasty way. Yeah, yeah. It's really disgusting the way you, you know, are trying to build hotels on the graves of all of these people when what we should be doing is just building a memorial. Yeah. You know, something to memorialize their future deaths. We could be employing all the people of Gaza to build the future memorial that, I mean, they can etch their own names into it in advance.
Starting point is 01:17:13 That's right. Exactly. you know communal art project yeah some sort of like you know mass celebration grave um yeah it it is it is so uh disheartening watching someone speak like that but at the same time i credit where credit is due again to pod save i'm not sure if they were trying to um humiliate mayor pete in that but i i do i have not seen any positive takes on that interview or at least the answers to those questions. I hear his support in the black community is up to zero percent. Oh shit. Once it keeps going, that's exponential. Um, yeah, Mayor Pete got to be. That's a thousand times what he had before the interview. Literally a thousand times. Literally a million times. Any number amount of times because
Starting point is 01:18:05 of the way math works. It's literally infinity times. Yes. Uh, yeah, he's a true scumbag. And if they run him, I don't know what they expect. What do they expect? They want to lose again? Fine, lose again. I don't give a shit. Fucking psychos. We need to move on to our last and most interesting piece of Hasbara.
Starting point is 01:18:31 It's not really Hasbara, but it's very bad Hasbara related in that it has to do with a playwright who we have discussed a lot on this show. quoted constantly. Constantly. Now, we, you know, we have quoted one of his plays a lot, Glenn Gary, Glen Ross. We're talking about David Mamet. If you don't know who David Mamet is, he is a famous playwright. He made plays such as Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.
Starting point is 01:19:02 House of Cards or something? That was a film. House of Glass. House of Cards. American Buffalo. American Buffalo. sexual perversity in Chicago I think the only thing
Starting point is 01:19:14 I've seen is State and Maine which is like a bad movie No one's heard of But it came out in like the 90s And there's a scene in it Where Alec Baldwin or something Gets into a car crash and he goes So that just happened
Starting point is 01:19:27 And I think it's the first ever Did Mamet invent that Joe Sweden, I think he did Ripped that off I think it was him I think it was Mamet He was the first So that just happened guy
Starting point is 01:19:38 So yeah Uh, that just happened. So yeah, he went on, um, a podcast. Apparently recently, Mamet has been like sort of, uh, I haven't followed. I mean, I don't like read his shit or whatever, but, um, apparently he's been, um, super pro Israel for the last like 22 months. I mean, maybe he was. Oh, long before.
Starting point is 01:20:01 He's been very conservative. So this, and Jewish supremacist for Koroa. That's crazy. Yeah. I did not know that. Um, but he went on a podcast. I don't know the name of the podcast. I don't know who the host of it is.
Starting point is 01:20:13 This seems like an interesting fella. And they were discussing his news. Fuck you. That's his name. Yeah. That's like Gling Greglin Roscoe. Yes, exactly. It turns out that like the way he writes characters is very much just him.
Starting point is 01:20:27 It's his own voice. Does he leave words out of sentences? Sure. Sure. Here is David Mamet on a podcast discussing well, some of his books and the way that he is mad about the way that
Starting point is 01:20:45 college kids being pro-Palestine is being misrepresented by the host. Earlier, which is the question is how that's funny. I don't get it. What's going on here? Which is why he wrote these books that you're kind enough to call polemical. Two of them. Two of them. I've also
Starting point is 01:21:07 read a bunch of other ones, and they're not. not all polemical. Is that a sketch? Is that Tim Heidegger? No, apparently this is like an actual guy and this is what the actual guy sounds like. It's really mopey and apologetic. Yeah. It also kind of passive aggressive.
Starting point is 01:21:25 For listeners, it's call her daddy. I know the show. Yeah. If you're not watching, that's what it is. And he's trying to explain, you know, hey, I didn't say that everything you've written is polemical. I'm just saying the last two books are. And he's, I never.
Starting point is 01:21:39 This guy needs to put that coffee down. Yeah, first of all, relax, host. You're tripping right now. I've never seen... I just manned the coffee is for closers only. I've never seen any more, like, I don't know, a guy whose body language said, I'm sorry, don't hit me so hard. And also, polemical is actually not a pejorative.
Starting point is 01:22:03 No, yeah. It's a description of a particular writing style or intense. intent, you know, a polemic is a, I don't know what it is, but it has something to do with, you can be a positive polemic. Yeah. Yeah, it's like syndicate. You can be a positive Jewish news syndicate. Here's, here's more. The squishy thing is, is, is that your, is that your read? Oh, yes. Okay. So the, the, the, what he's saying when he says the squishy thing, I believe the context of that is the way in which he is framing, um, like, whether or not like from the river to the sea is meant to be genocidal or if it's just a call for you know Palestinian human rights and he's calling it squishy he's a mammoth is saying that's you're being squishy about it um so that's that context here we got is that your is that your read oh yes okay here's the thing is to go back again i'm a jew right the river to the sea means kill all the jews what support the interfaum
Starting point is 01:23:08 means kill all the Jews. People in hijabs and people in kafias standing on table and screaming at Jewish children. Storming into classrooms and breaking windows means kill all the Jews. I'm sorry, but so far everything means kill all the Jews. I love the constant. I want his next book to be a dictionary in which he just has household objects and what they mean. And it's like, it means kill all the Jews. David Bavitt's dictionary.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yeah, exactly. Well, almond or oat milk for that today, sir, means kill all the Jews. Yeah. I do not know what he looks like or sounds like. I really thought that he was just like a second Aaron Sorkin. Yeah, I know. This video of him. And he's got like a popped jean jacket collar.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Yeah, he's popped his collar. Acid washed. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. And he's got like, you know, it's not a fully shake. You clearly he had shaved his head. It looks like a few months ago, probably trying to intimidate kids in Colombia.
Starting point is 01:24:13 But like very, yeah, it's a, you know, it's an Israel-coated, shaved head. Yeah, he looks like Smortrish's older brother. Yeah, older brother means kill all the news. All right. For you to say, on the other hand, there may be some people out there that were involved in peaceful protest, slow some piece of anti-Semitism. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Thank you for talking to me.
Starting point is 01:24:40 He walks out, and then if you listen closely, he says, he screams, what a dick. So that just happened. So that happened. And that was David Mammon. That's on Lemonada. Oh, my God, that's the most milk. toast podcast network that is amazing sam uh fragoso i don't know who sam fragoso is it's called talk
Starting point is 01:25:17 easy with david mammott that's crazy the idea that he went on this fucking podcast with the most soft spoken mouse of a host who is just like is it possible that some people don't want to kill all the jews david mamet is just like if you ask me once more if you ask me once more whether or not everyone in the world doesn't want to kill Jews, I will walk out of this podcast. That guy tried to kill David Mamet, right? That's horrifying.
Starting point is 01:25:47 He wanted him dead. Did you see all the anti-Semitism? He was spewing, hunched over, crying? How do you get mad at an already crying guy? Like, to be threatened in any way by the way in which he's presented this, like, is it possible that some people want Palestine to be free is like
Starting point is 01:26:10 you got to be so fucking weak minded you gotta be you gotta have been on some sort of pedestal for a long enough time that you just fucking are offended by the idea that someone would even ask you to think about this for you know a few seconds I want to get I want to sit David Mamet down get a younger Alec Baldwin in front of him and have him say you think this is abuse
Starting point is 01:26:32 you think this is abuse you fucking cock sucker you think this is if you can't handle this How are you going to handle the abuse you get on a sit? This is a fucking podcast. It's called Talk Easy. You know what you need to go on Lemonada Talk Easy Podcasts? You need brass balls to go on podcasts. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Stealing Gallagher's bit from WTF. I think that's wrong. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Gallagher was the first to walk. Was it OG Gallagher or twin Gallagher? I want to say it was OG, but maybe the twin did it a second on a different episode later on. it's possible. That's when often did that. Well, I'm sure Mamet would love to smash a watermelon. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. When I was in college, I had the opportunity to potentially do stand-up opening for Gallagher and it was canceled, but I really, really wanted to take a hammer and smash a grape as the opening bit and see if you, like, shot me in the head or something.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Speaking of which, did I, see, I'm doing my first ever stand-up routine in a couple of months at our live show. Did I, did I, did I, did I, could I, could. commit the first sin of podcast of stand up by like actually quoting your bit i don't i don't care there's no first sin okay yeah the sin is doing stand up yes exactly the original sin is you decided to do stand up uh and you will be punished in eternity for that exactly the only rules to stand up are there's three rules number one uh don't wear shorts on stage um number two um don't heckle and number three if someone more famous than you um is uh telling you well yeah must fuck chair um if someone more famous than you is accused of something uh you have to keep quiet about it because it could have affect your career and number four get to the bottom of these
Starting point is 01:28:22 trans people yeah yeah yeah yeah what's going on with trans on it uh figure that out i'm realizing when you asked me if i was upset about the same thing i should have been like you know what Thank you. Or, or you could have, as our friend Al Pacino said. Yes, or you could have responded with his own words. And here is Al Pacino's response to David Mamet walking off of Talk Easy. Asshole. Where did you learn your trade?
Starting point is 01:28:51 You stupid fucking cunt, you idiot. Whoever told you that you could work with men, you fairy. You company man. You fucking man. child true story when i applied to the n yu grad program in musical theater writing which i entered exactly 20 years ago this month um part of my application package they said you had to take a scene from a play or movie that's not a musical and musicalize it oh and i took that monologue and i wrote a tango called where did you learn your trade wow and and it goes a little
Starting point is 01:29:31 but something like this. No, I was hoping you was just... Something like you tried to follow my lead, but you lost me. Now, 64 grand's what you cost me. I like it. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah, I mean, that's a great scene to turn into a musical. I didn't use the word stupid fucking cunt. Oh, you should have. Yeah, you're trying to get into a liberal art school. So you got to watch out. Don't want to... That was you wishing all Jews to die.
Starting point is 01:30:01 that's right yeah yeah and i'm reporting you yeah to the jewish new new syndicate yeah yeah he led the jewish new syndicate uh no uh all of the anti-semitism you have experienced here on this podcast jeremy have you experienced any anti-semitism on this podcast not yet i was hoping for a little more yeah all right well make a big post about it yeah yeah yeah well you uh you sure you sure look uh miserly how's that that's pretty good i find that whatever I post on Biden people, especially on Twitter these days, people will like to point out. They're like, you're Jewish.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Yeah, you're a Jew. Yeah, Twitter is filled with that now to the point where, like, at this point, I don't even read comments anymore because it'll just be like, says the Jew. I'm like, yeah, I know says the Jew. What are you? I'm talking about matzaballs.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Yeah, exactly. Everything I say says the Jew. Like, you don't have to do that. You know, Reb Nachman of Brestloff has a story about that. Says the Jew. Says the Jew. Stupid. So shout out to David Mamet for going on Talk Easy and not following the prompt and instead
Starting point is 01:31:13 talking hard. And shout out to Jeremy Kaplowitz for coming on Bad As Barra and talking easy with us. Yeah, thanks for coming on. Where can people find you and find your work? I would love if people listen to Quarators. We should have you guys on. hell yeah yeah it's on all the things where you can listen to podcasts absolutely and we will have a link to that in the show notes so please follow jeremy on uh on all the socials and listen to his
Starting point is 01:31:44 podcast jeremy once again thank you for coming on patreon dot com slash bad hasbara bad hasbara at gmail dot com for all your questions comments and concerns all right everyone thanks again so much for listening and until next time from the river to the sea hey quora what's the name of the snowflaker wrote glengarry that means kill all the joes it sure does jumping jacks was us push-ups was us godmaga us all karate us taking molly us michael jackson us yamaaha keyboards us chargers on us and or was us heath led your joker us Endless bread success. Happy meals was us. McDonald's was us. Being happy us.
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