Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - 216: Koufax Don’t Care About Your Feelings

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

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Isildeen Bukari from East Jerusalem. He's actually Janan Matari's cousin. Oh, really? He's a chef. I once got to sue chef for him in the Cotswilds in England for several days, just by chance and by fun. Izzledeen sounds like what Snoop Dog calls a guy named Dean. That's right. That's right. That's actually the derivation of it.

Azal Dean. For Shizzle, my Isle Dean. We all, dude, we're talking about for shizzle. God damn. Anyway, I told Helen about the podcast. She was excited to hear about it. And I said, she said, where can I find it? I said, all your podcast app. She said, I don't use podcast apps.

I don't know what that is. But she said, is it on YouTube? And I said, yes, it is, Helen. We put a lot of work into making this thing as visual as it is oral. That's right. A-U-R-A-L. And so, come and watch us. Please watch us.

You like to watch, don't you? Yeah, Helen, I hope you are watching right now because we love you. And we love anyone who watches on YouTube. or who is not someone who needs to be visually stimulated during a podcast and just wants to listen. And you can listen to it wherever you get your podcast. Isn't that wonderful? I hear needing visual stimulation when you're watching podcasts is a more male trait. Is that true?

Yeah, we're very visual creatures when it comes to, what is it, podcast? Podcasts, podcast, podcast. We love to look. We love using our eyes. We love podnography. That's right. Hey, are you in Los Angeles? Are you near Los Angeles?

No. I'm not talking to the listeners. Hey, you, not Daniel or Adam. If you are near and or in Los Angeles on July 11th, that's this Saturday, 8 p.m. Come to the Ice House. It's a comedy club in Pasadena in which I am going to be performing with also my wife, Francesco Fiorentini. Borat voice, my wife will be there. We're going to be doing stand-up.

It's going to be really great. We've got a lot of great comedians, including Paula Lillia. If you follow stand-up at all, Paul Aaliyah is a really, really funny stand-up comedian. The first time you said his name last episode. Where I say. No, you said it right, but my mind went to Chris Dahlia. Yeah, right. He does have the, it's without the duh, it's, and that D-Apostrophe is a very big signify.

It's very different. Different guy completely. Look what I'm planning. Yeah, he's got, was that his M&M impression? Yeah. He does. The one thing I ever knew of him before his ship sank. It was fucking funny.

He did a great M&M impression. Unfortunately, he also did a great Bill Cosby. I don't know. If you know what I mean, I don't know if it doesn't matter. Point is, Paul Alia will be there. Please go to the wonderful comedy club, the Ice House, on July 11th. It's Saturday night. And now you have something to do.

Please do it. I should also point out that my wife, Francesco Fiorentini, was actually supposed to be the guest today. But unfortunately, our baby daughter got sick. So we had to, once again, split off into our own things. She's going to be taking care of her while I podcast. And then I'm going to be taking care of her while she podcasts. And that is the life of a married comedian who does a podcast in order to make a living. And Adam, no pressure to replace every aspect of her.

But you are, in a sense, when it comes to Matt and I as a duo, you are our wife. Yeah, you are I-wife. It's true. Just don't ask me to be your third. Yes, yes. Well, okay, I won't. Anyways, today's episode is brought to you by Muslim Aid USA. That is M-AUSA.org. The team at Muslim Aid USA is actively responding to this humanitarian crisis working alongside partners on the ground. They are delivering essential medical aid and equipment to the main hospitals in Gaza and providing food packages. and vital non-food items such as hygiene kits and other basic necessities to those who are in need if you have any money and you would like to, you know, put it towards a good cause.

Please go to M-A-U-S-A.org and donate today. They need the money more than we do. So please do that now. Daniel. Yes, sir. What's this been? I got some records from a couple of Vancouver record stores. Neptune records.

Neptune. Vancouver's oldest. record store and also Red Cat Records, both on Main Street. This caught my attention because, you know, remember last a couple of weeks ago or a couple of episodes ago, I had a meat puppets album and the Nirvana Connection. Yeah, we were talking about meat puppets. That's right.

Well, here's the Vaseline's. Oh. A complete history. And the Vaseline's, uh, there's two Vaseline's covers on incesticide, uh, Molly's lips and, uh, son of a gun. See, I did not know that. One of Kurt Cobain's favorite groups. I did not know.

I never heard. Yeah. I didn't know that I thought Molly's lips was This actually makes a lot of sense I thought that was a Nirvana original and I was like man They really were doing a different thing back then Yeah I know they were super into like New Wave punky cute stuff like

It was I love that aspect of their influences There's also a song on here called CASSCase Molly's Lips It's just a really good fucking song It's really great yeah There's a song called Sex Sucks Amen So true

Our version of the last edition of Christ song called Monster Pussy about a cat that hit under the floorboards for three weeks Wait, hold on, I love these guys. Yeah, they're awesome. And bitch, the subtitle of that is I've met some people like this. Wait, I need to listen to this band,

the Vaseline song. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I think they're a duo, a guy and a man and a woman. I love this. The Roots, the tipping point, one of their better, sort of later, like sort of one of the first, later half of their career albums. It's really good, or maybe end of the first half of their career. Cool. Pre-Fallon.

Good stuff. The career ends at Fallon, right? Well, the ironic thing is their career as a group, as a recording group, sure. But, I mean, they're still, they kick-ass live. And around the time they go on Fallon is when Black Thought transmogrifies into the greatest rapper of all time. He starts going on Funk Flex. Have you seen his Funk Flex freestyle?

No, I don't. It is a 10-minute freestyle in the classic sense, not off the dome. It's prepared. No, right, right, right. But it's memorized. But it's just kind of no topic, like just, it's 10 minutes, it's fucking stunning. Everyone should, everyone should see it.

Okay, maybe, maybe. Although, you know, I was never, I never got into the route. So, you know, I should probably do it. I should probably do it. I know, I'm bad. I mean, start with Ilydav Half-Life and things fall apart. But that, but Black Thought in his own right, just as a fucking bar-spitting MC is incredible.

the heavy metal group Dio Ronnie James Dio Hell yeah Holy Diver baby This is the album Holy Diver which apparently is an absolute must listen and yet I've never listened to it Yeah no beginning to end it is great

It's the only Dio album I have And it is really good Excellent So and also the name Dio I'm trying to instill that as my Uncle nickname with my niece Because her father is Dominican

And I could be Tio, but my name starts with D, so I'm going to be Dio. That's what we're going for. Yeah. You could be a real Dionist. A real Dionist, yeah. Dionist. Don't look at me like that, Adam. Junior Parker, love ain't nothing but a business going on.

Great title. That's true about love, though. And this song, this album I listen to it. I mean, if you know how to flip it, right, I guess. You know, I'm just saying, you know, it's like my wife and I, we love it. other was also a bit we got a business going on you got a business going on yeah oh my god we got trying to run a business here that's right daughter yep never tweeting my daughter for no reason that that puts never mixed business with

pleasure into some into some some some dilemmas yeah literally more efficient to mix business and pleasure okay all right adam where was your mind going with that that was a completely innocent non-induendo Wait, hold on, I missed it. You know what? I like that you're still doing the typing thing. You're here. You can talk. No, I take no responsibility for whatever's happening in the title. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That was very, all the producers in the house say ho.

Yeah, so Junior Park, I love it. A huge amount of hip-hop samples on this. When I listened to it, I was like, oh, there's that De La Sol sample. There's that tribe sample. And finally, no, not finally. Two more. This is a very cheesy Canadian album from the 80s, but it had a massive mega single that no one outside of Canada ever heard. Gino Vanelli, Black Cars. Oh, sure. Now, Gina Vanelli was a Prague dude, Prague Jazz Fusion guy. Not Prague, but Fusion.

Doing really cool shit in the late 70s with his brother. They're from Montreal. And then this is his sort of turn towards like 80s pop. Black cars look better in the shade. He and his brother. He and his brother. He's really hassle-hoffing. He's very hassle-not picture.

Is his brother Melly? Are they Melly Vinelli? Melly Vennelie. Yeah, very good. Yeah, I'm just doing my best. And finally, this album delighted me. I got him the $5 bin at Red Cat. Emmy Lou Harris, Evangeline.

Oh, yeah. Just great country rock. She covers How High the Moon, bad moon rising, hot burrito number two by the Barreto Brothers, Flying Bredo Brothers, Mr. Sandman, not Enter Sandman. Anyway, just beautiful. And I have a supplemental

what's the spline? Because this is the funniest. Oh, yeah. This is the funniest book title I've ever seen. It was just on the coffee table when I got to my parents' house. Yeah. Nyacin, the real story.

Finally, someone's telling the truth. Stop believing everything you've ever heard about Nyacinin. Yeah, exactly. The art of the vitamins. Everything you've ever heard about niacin's wrong. It reminds me of that Simpson's newsreel or the educational thing about zinc.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come back, zinc. Yeah. I feel like Nyacin's and. I'm sorry I got you so wrong. There's only, there is part of me that is like, I do want to know the real story of Nyason, so maybe that is the greatest title I've ever seen. I do know that, like, Nyacin was, is used a lot by Scientologists.

They believe in the properties. In the purification rundown. Yeah. So, like, maybe that's a book about like, hey, Scientologist. I'm not trying to kill myself. I want to live. You got to go to a notary with that shit. Hey Matt, dare me to quote an opening lyric to a rap song that has the word niacin in it.

I dare you to do exactly what you said. You lack the minerals and vitamins, iron and the niacens. It's times up by OC. I like that. I like that. That's good. It's always good to know a lot of rap lyrics. It's good as a rapper to alert your rivals to their vitamin and mineral deficiencies.

That's right. Let your ops know that their bones is weak, that the hair is thin, malnourished. I've done some opo research. I've got a blood panel on you, and you're really anemic, but. Yeah, you're a hemoglobin so low. Damn, man, you're cholesterol higher than your weight, you know, stuff like that. So that's what's spinning in the Mate household. excited for all of you to be joining us for this wonderful episode today flying off the seat of our pants

listen not that you know when we have a guest specifically my wife or any guest that it's like oh now we're you know proper and whatnot but when it's just the three of us when it's just like us hanging out this is one of those more casual episodes you know let's just say things are liable to get a little silly in here yeah let's say we're going to get kind of weird all right you know weird wacky stuff And in a fun way, in a smart way. Because we're not just, we're not just, you know, buttoned up old podcasters who talk about genocide. No. We're also some cool guys.

We're also real dorks. Yeah. We're not just a three-headed substitute teacher. That's right. No. Well, we're so much more than that. We bring vibes in comedy. Yes.

So anyways, Jews. That's the subject matter for today. I've heard about them. For a change. For a change. We're finally going to get into, what's this whole Jewish question? Just kidding. I want to start off today's episode with one of our favorite pods. No, I'm not talking about podcasts. I'm talking about Pod Horowitz. Pods leave America. That's right. The original pod person. Yeah, the first pod person. John Pod Horitz, who, if you don't know, his father is Norman Pod Horitz, I believe. Right? And who, what did he, what, it was like the Atlantic or the new Republic?

Kind of the founder of neoconservatism in some ways, though. Yeah, yeah. He was like a, is he one of these former Trotskyist turned like right wing foreign policy ghouls? You mean like a- And I thought he started the National Review. Yeah, it's probably that. Adam, whatever you think is usually the correct answer. He's the kind of guy that William F. Buckley respected very much, but would never invite him to the country. club because he was a Jew. Right, because he was a Jew. It's just like, well, you're not allowed,

but you get that. You're cool with that. I'll talk to you over the fence of the golf course. Yes. Now, William Buckley... You can't marry my daughter. Yeah. William Buckley, of course, father of a famed guitar player, Jeff Buckley. Jeff Buckley, that's right. Yeah. So anyways, Pod Horitz. John Podthoritz is... Oh, and Jesse Buckley is Jesse Buckley's grandmother. That's right. That's right. That's right. Hamnet. Very good movie. Anyways,

John Pod Horitz has been making the rounds, of course, as he usually does. You might remember him from such tweets as, I believe it was Trump invaded or Trump bombed Iran.

He can say Shylock as many times as he wants, you know, shit like that. He also continually has an ongoing panic attack about, you know, anti-Semitism in New York.

He's always mad. It's too bad Trump wasn't the character and the merchant of Venice because just like he called FIFA to like protest the he could call like the user's guild

and protest the pound of flesh thing Yeah, that's too much flesh It's absolutely That is insane amount of flesh You really, you know, I don't want to say it But you're jewing us You're jewing us on the amount of flesh You were deserved

This is Venice, I know enough to know That's Italy They don't use pounds there They use kilograms This contract was clearly forged The Jews famously throw out a little bit of flesh right there at the beginning. That's right. We hate that.

We want to keep the flesh. Yeah, we understand that you don't like flesh as much as we like flesh. You always suck it on. You want to waste an ounce of flesh that could have grown into a pound of flesh at the beginning. That's fine, but don't come asking for help from us later. That's your business. John Podhoritz went on a podcast recently. John Pod Horitz went on a podcast recently, and whenever I see a clip from him, it's always the most insane thing he's said yet.

And he always ups the ante. This one is fun for a different reason. I'm just going to play it for you. And we're just going to enjoy John Pod Horitz deciding to memory whole almost three years of genocide in order to complain about how he's the victim. I think it's amazing to be alive now. It's just nerve-wracking. Yeah. And there is this, as I say, this kind of sideline question of, why are you doing this to my people?

Right. We never did anything to you. So already on... Snippers, I made an order more than an hour ago. I've now called twice. Been put on hold for five minutes each time. I will now tweet out that no one should ever order. from you every 15 minutes today and tomorrow.

Why is everybody always pick me and only? There's like, whenever any of these people starts doing this thing with like, why do you know, why did they hate us? I want to first start off with go and be like, once again, this idea that everyone just automatically hates Jews is a thing that you're doing, you're conflating it. But second of all, you, John, Pod Horitz are incredibly hateable. You're just one of those people who are just, you elicit

a lot of gagging from, I think, most people. There's just the way you are. But I want to continue playing what he says because he starts doing the thing that a lot of American Zionists do. And also a lot of just American Jews in general do, which is they start resting on the laurels of all of Jewish history in order to defend Israel and themselves. Here's here's the race. We never did anything to you except give you the movies, Irving Berlin, you know, like, we did all this good stuff. You know, we wrote God bless America and we did the American musical and, you know,

Mel Brooks turned 100 this week. You know, what did we do other than, you know, give you the modern banking? And litigation, psychotherapy. I'm taking away your Biali privileges. What did we ever give you but everything we had? Like pornography, degenerate art, secularized the birth of Christ in popular music. We defeated Germany for you in World War I. Like there's a little...

Killed your savior stood in the way of the salvation of mankind by not accepting it. Lactose intolerance. there's a little bit of like being so proud to be Jewish that you just sound like a Nazi yeah you know what I mean yeah it's so crazy we're come back blintz come back blitzes that's off that's off Adams and the Ollie joke oh that's great like that's what do we do to you leave us alone right leave us the hell alone on the back if you look at his bookshelf there's a book that I swear was the room but it's actually the boom oh okay He's reading the novelized version of the room.

He also, there's, I don't know, there's like a bobblehead right above his head that just looks like the happy merchant, like fortune anti-Semitic meme. It's probably not that, but it might be. There's just, yeah, what else did, what else did Jews give us? A little country alone over there, like, they sat there, they had no money. Now they're the 22nd richest country on earth. They're giving everybody the ways. Pure bootstrapped self-reliance, right? Yeah, that's right.

All on their own. They just put their work yarmulkas on and, you know. Put the blinders on and say, you know, we're just going to work hard. Don't look to the left or to the right, you know. Don't look at your neighbors. We'll be taking their stuff soon. I love, but he's bringing up ways, dog. They're giving everybody ways and, you know, cable set-pop boxes that I don't know what,

whatever the hell else they're doing. He can't possibly be doing this without a printed list. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, no, but this dude probably does this so much. He has a memorized list of, like, accomplishments, you know? Like, he's got the Hasbara pretty locked in, you know? This guy gives me the Hebrew-Jibrews. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, I, the problem with John Pod Horitz, I think, is that, like, he's like, everyone is, you know, being mean to me. And it's like, bro, maybe don't have literal shark teeth. I'm just saying, why does he have pointed teeth? They can't all be pointed. The guy next to him's got two nice little flat guys. He got just motherfuckering off fangs. Gentlemen, we will leave it there.

I didn't expect my upbeat note was not that the Jews gave you Waze. Waze is the greatest thing ever. I know what, John, the ways, do you know what, do you know when, do you know when Waze was sold to Google? Do you know? Yeah, like 2000. Dan, are you saying like, what have you done for me lately to the Jews? Yeah, I mean, we've got better or more recent examples than Waze. I love Waze.

I'm just saying it's like, it's always. I love Ways. I'm not a anti-Semite. If truly, you know, there's part of me that wants to like laugh and make fun of these people for doing a podcast. But then I'll look at us and we're also doing a podcast. Yeah, it's like, it's such a fucking, and it's terrible to even say this out loud. But like, sometimes friends come to me and they're concerned that I'm laying it on a little thick when I make fun of this sort of, you know, trend in Jewish public discourse, like being willing to just have this out there. Daniel, I'm worried you don't feel guilty enough.

I'm worried you stereotyping us. We don't all sound like that. No, but I'm just like, what am I supposed to do? I've never seen a group behave this way. Right. I just never, I've never seen it. Like, without even, like, presented without comment. Mm-hmm.

Like, just, like, what is going on? Right. With this, this fucking, this brain virus. Yeah. I mean, I was, like, thinking about that exact question. What the fuck is going on with this specifically? And I realized that it's, like, Israel has, Israel's essentially just a giant

like nepo baby. You know what I mean? That's right. It's essentially just going to... It's Kendall Roy. Yeah, it is Kendall Roy, though. It's the Kendall Roy of countries. It takes all of Jewish history

and claims it as its own and then gets mad at everyone that laws should apply to them equally. They're like, do you know who my dad is? And it's like George Gershwin. You know, it's essentially, And so because of that, you have people like John Podhorst, and who is, I mean, literally his dad is Norman, so he is a Nepo baby in that sense. But you've also got people like John Podhors who do the same thing, which is they continue to talk about the accomplishments of Jews in the diaspora for however many centuries and use that as like an excuse for why it's okay.

for Israel to be doing what it's doing. Or why we can't even talk about what Israel's doing. Right. Again, no, like the statement, what did we ever do to you? Do you want a list? I mean, I should say, I've never seen a group behave this way, but I am particularly sensitized to this group. I know that people inside other groups can be very sensitive to ways their own people

embarrass themselves. Do you realize that you're saying that to someone from the same religion as Sandy Kofax? That's right. Yeah. Think about that for a second. No, but also, you know... Fax don't care about my feeling. Wow. Ten. Ten out of ten. Yeah, man. Like, there is...

I also push back against the idea that you can't... I mean, this is... Listen, liberal society set aside certain rules. one of those rules was your own can make those jokes. And I feel like if you're going to say, you're not, you know, you shouldn't, you know, you shouldn't make fun of these people and whatnot. Well, then the lane becomes purely just non-Jewish people doing voice. No, absolutely. But I'm not talking about even making fun of them.

Like I'm talking about expressing my unique revulsion. and disgust for this sort of thing. And, like, my felt sense that I've never seen this before and that it may never have happened before in human history. Now, that's a very heavy thing to assert. You know, like, a friend took me to task, you know, who's more rigorous than me, he's an academic, for saying, you know, for talking about the complicity, say,

of Jewish synagogues or Jewish summer camps. He said, look, the word complicity is a very loaded word, and it was used to justify the expropriation of Japanese Canadian property and the internment of those people, you know, and that there are groups that support the home country. And he had to admit that obviously it's a different case because it's not a home country.

It's a homeland, you know. It's in a way country. It's in a way country. Yeah, that's right. But I was just like, I hear you, I feel you, I can feel the edge of me using the word complicity. And yet when I look at land sales and synagogues, And when I look at running, like doing active, willful denial of it,

and spreading ignorance and spreading hate and racism to cover for an actual genocide by a minority population with, you know, that's done disproportionately well, claiming victimhood, I can't come up with a satisfying historical analogy that would induce me to like unilaterally be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't say that. Because I'm like, I just think the. truth needs, like, there's value in just saying the truth. Now, then the question is, how do you articulate that truth in a way that doesn't,

doesn't overly, doesn't get let emotions and my own shame and anger and contempt, as Jesse Brown called me out for against my own community. Let me just say things irresponsibly. And that's a question I'm always asking myself. Yeah. I mean, look, I take a little bit of an issue with this reframing of the word complicity to all a sudden have these consequences that are far beyond your control. It's a slippery slope because I'm sure that you could make the arguments that

complicity, quote unquote, was the reason for all sorts of, you know, crimes by the Canadian state or the American state, you know, for like you said, Japan, you know, the internment of the Japanese and whatnot. But I'm sorry. I think complicity was an underrated J.J. Abrams series. I mean, until she cut her hair. Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah, once she complicity cut her hair, then it was all over. That's a felicity joke for you youngens out there. And by you youngans out there, I mean, 2% of this podcast, we're mostly an old guy's podcast. But at this point, the modern usage of complicity is a lot more broad. And I, and sometimes cannot be relevant. Some people, you know,

claim things or institutions are complicit that I wouldn't call complicit. That said, what other word would you use for doing land sales, you know, Palestinian land sales in your synagogue? I think that makes you an accessory to mass murder. I just do. Call it accessory instead of complicit. What I said to my friend was, you know, and Jesse, again, makes this same leap. To think that because I'm using the word complicity,

I'm there, and therefore permissioning violence against those people or retribution or reprisals. No, I'm not. I think it's possible to, just like I can name Israel, Kep Gaza in a concentration camp, without saying that Vivian Silver

deserved to be murdered on October 7th. You know, it's not about deserving, it's not about morality, it's about what are you creating, what are you setting in motion, and what do you think the predictable results of that? should be and do you think that it that because it those consequences would be terrible that then i should we shouldn't be able to name it until the consequences happen no i want to

name it now yeah yeah and i think those consequences they're not justified but they fit in some way they're not discontinuous they're not like out of the blue yeah whereas the consequences of being Jewish in in fucking Latvia in 1900 or you know the Russian steps or whatever were completely and totally unrelated to anything Jews did right yeah it's just that's just not the same yes yeah and I I hear a lot of and we've talked a lot about this argument specifically uh they don't need a reason type thing when it comes to anti-Semites um you know but they'll take one right yeah yeah yeah Yeah. Well, first of all, they'll take one.

And second of all, I'm sorry, but, and you said this in the debate with Jesse, which I thought was really good. Then how do you explain the rise of, quote, anti-Semitic incidents? Like, oh, it's Israel. It's absolutely Israel. Yeah, to which he admitted it. I'm like, are you anti that or are you for that? Well, you know, and I think their argument would be something along the lines of, well, just because, because there is a reason to do, you know, racist, you know, crimes against people of a certain

group because it doesn't mean that it's not a racist crime and whatnot. The problem is... Have fun calling out the racism of it after it happens. Right. After the blood has been spilled, the thing you're predicting. Like, have fun being right about that. Right. Or you could be like, we're heading down a very dangerous road.

That's right. That's right. That's the difference is that you can't then look. at what Israel is doing and say, this is something that is, by your own admission, creating the anti-Semitism that you're talking about. And that doesn't mean you can't condemn people for doing acts of anti-Semitism. What it means is that the big exporter of anti-Semitism, the one that is truly keeping this, whatever they want to call it, virus that they say, alive now more so than ever, Israel.

So why? Why wouldn't that be your target? And Israel happens to be the entity, no pun intended, that, or I guess pun intended, that, that, that you, that your condemnation would be significant about. Right. Exactly. Just like people walking out to protest the Iraq war. Yes.

Would be, is much more significant than people walking out to protest Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait. Right, exactly. We have no control over that. Yes. And, you know, you want to talk about while Jews are connected to Israel and it's emotional or you, oh, you're fine. Then what do you know, that makes your powers. Right.

You know, 3PO. Yes. When you stop saying you're doing it for us, we'll stop telling you to stop doing it. Yeah. Exactly. And the truth of it is, is I really do think that a large proportion of, Well, not a large proportion, but there are, I think, a lot of people who live in this sort of liberal Zionist space who are, who would be satisfied with just, we're not associated with them. And then truly wouldn't, you know, give a shit about the continuation of a Jewish supremacists.

I've been talking to friends in Vancouver who see things my way and, you know, Jewish friends. and what they just notice around them is the people around them are not even going to argue with them anymore. Right. You just want to stay as far the fuck away from it as possible, which I get. No, I mean... But it will not protect you

and it will not protect you from massive regret and inner cognitive dissonance and turmoil, even if it's got nothing to do with massacres and reprisals and blowback. The inner blowback of having to segment yourself that way is not tenable. And I understand that people are in situations, especially in a place like here where there's very, very conservative Jewish community, and it's hard to go against everybody around you and lose a big part of your world,

you know, including family members. But, like, that's fine if you make that choice. Like, it's not fine, but it's fine. But don't think that it's not going to catch up with you. Right, exactly. And, you know, it's, I'm sorry, but it also, you are sort of waving your, right to be taken seriously as a credible person who cares about justice then. And, you know, then it truly is like, okay, well, then your opinions to me don't matter.

But yes, there's a lot of the shift of liberal Zionists who are now where they're just going to be silent about it. And, you know, they're going to be, hey, you know, Israel has nothing to do with me. I wash my hands of it. And on the one hand, I understand that. And, you know, I don't hold every Jew responsible for, you know, the crimes of the state of Israel. But you, that doesn't. If you got the bar mitzvah money, you got to talk about it.

Right. I mean, well, I think it's more you just there. I don't hold you responsible, but you do actually have responsibility. And you can abdicate that and say, no, I don't, you know, and I won't do anything. But I will, you know, it makes me at least. on our interpersonal level makes me look at you different. I may not necessarily call you complicit, but I will say that you are an enabler,

and you're someone who has to live with the fact that you were silently enabling this. And I guess it's on you to live with it. To flip Uncle Ben, and I do not mean an upside-down rice pilaf, Uncle Ben from Spider-Man. Yes. He said with great freedom comes great responsibility. Great power.

With great responsibility comes great power. I like that. With no power comes no responsibility too, though. That's also true. And you've just gotten me and Matt to out ourselves as giant door quads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, come on, Spider-Man. Everyone knows Spider-Man.

But when you actually haven't seen it, but when you're willing, when you're willing to be responsible, it actually had sex before. It's, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's true. It's true. And, you know, you may not be responsible, but you do have responsibility and, you know, you can... Responsibility and guilt and fault are not the same thing. Yeah, exactly. And you can, you know, you can be mad that there are people who are holding you to that standard whatnot. But I don't think you would be as mad if it were a situation, like you said, where this is the Iraq war, your country is doing it. And you are outwardly, openly protesting the Iraq war. You will go to other countries. countries during, you know, the war on terror, people would go from America would go to other countries and be treated like shit because everyone fucking hated Americans because Americans were, you know, invaded, invading countries.

You know, you wouldn't look at that and go, oh, that, you know, that's, it makes no sense that people want me to go out there and protest against the war. I'm against it, but what do I need to say, you know, about it? It's like, no, you would, you would say, you would say, you would say, you had some responsibility as an as an American citizen for the country. Otherwise, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, and it's not the same thing as like, oh, you know, this is like expecting, you know, every, uh, to, uh, to disclaim ISIS, that they are, yeah, against ISIS and, and condemn ISIS or that they're against Sharia law, which literally translates to law law. Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. huge difference there is the racial double standard was something that was systematized. It was that actual systemic racist double standard that existed that was spread. The entire government and

media class was, we're all doing it against this minority. There is a different set of rules, a different set of protections, a different set of privileges. And using those privileges, being someone who uses your privilege for good is something that most of libs would talk about, you know, ad nauseum. Especially a couple of years ago. Yes. So here's the time. Here's your bad has to,

before we take a break. Yes. I know that at least one of us needs a break. Here's your bad hasberra self-help corner for the moment for the day. Responsibility is not guilt. It's not blame. It's not fault.

Responsibility is response ability. It's the ability to respond to what's in front of you. And if you're fucking abdicating your moral prerogative to speak about what you see because you want to distance yourself from it, cool. But you're out of the game when it comes to actually

being able to respond to what's happening. Love it. Love it. And I want you all to think about that. But also think about these products or whatever. Everyone stick around. We'll be right back. And we're back as bad as bar.

the world's most moral podcast. All the boys are back in town. Well, not really. I guess, Daniel, you're not in town. You're not in her town. I'm in a different town. I'm not back in my town. But I'm in my original town, my hometown.

And I'm at best a plus-size Lizzie. Yes, yes. So, plus-size Lizzie is a great name. Thick Lizzie. Thick Lizzie. Anyways, we all. are here in America. Now, Daniel, of course, is in a different part of America, but it's still in my heart. I'm not one of these Canadians who's going to quibble over, you know, that's right,

a line along a 49th parallel, you know. Exactly, exactly. Sure and share like. That's right. You are a proud American. We're all proud Americans here. We love America the way America be. And we just had a 4th of July celebration happened all over the country, all over the world. People were celebrating America's 250 years of freedom. And I went on the internet to see who else was celebrating. And there was another Canadian celebrating. His name is Godsad. God sod said, happy 250th birthday to the greatest nation of all time.

my family is so proud and grateful to be moving to... Take that Etruscans. I'm sorry, but also take that Israel? Which is, I don't know, gets that's whole fucking reason detra. But my family is so proud and grateful to be moving to the U.S. May the next 250 years be even better

than the first 250. We joked that he's moving to Florida, but I think he's moving to Mississippi. Really? That's what I heard, yeah. God saw it. At the Delta? Yeah.

Oh, Sad is going to love the blues. Now, you actually, we didn't prepare this one, but I need you to go get Jordan Tweederson's. I actually didn't mean to say that. Wow, Jordan Twaterson. Jordan Twiterson's July 4th post. I don't know if it was reposted by his family from a previous year or if it was actually him this year because he's quite ill. He's quite unwell. Here it is Jordan Peterson's July 4th messages.

to the Americans. I've traveled all over the world. I've familiarized myself with many places and met many people. And I'm a Canadian, although I'm privileged to reside once again in the States. And here's something I've noticed. It's a key element of America's continuing greatness. You bloody Americans value success and you believe in its existence. This is something that doesn't really happen anywhere else in the world,

even in other free democracies, democracies. the United Kingdom, Finland, Sweden and Norway, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, Germany, France, and the Netherlands, great countries all, a counterproductive cynicism too often reigns. Success is equated with exploitation. Ambition is looked upon with contempt. This happens sometimes in the United States, too, particularly among the miserable progressives who confuse their resentment in gratitude and unarmed skepticism with wisdom. Take that woke left. Woke left. You're all so miserable. I can see that from my bed of joy and happiness. Things are really going well for me. I'm one of the most happy carnivores out there.

I only eat meat and never put any tomato sauce on it. But in your great country, by and large, striving is admired and success celebrated. This means that more people strive and succeed in the U.S. than anywhere else. Oh, no, he's crying again. And it's increasingly obvious. He remains stunningly more innovative and productive than any people anywhere else on the planet. I love that.

He's writing this while just looking at a tinkerbell coloring book from the past. Oh, God. And so I say, as all should who are fortunate enough to live in the Western world, let alone America. Thank God for the United States. Thank God for the wisdom of his founders. Thank God for its faith in the free market and in the natural rights of man. And in knowing what a man is. That's right.

Happy birthday, you damn Yankees and Southerners. I love the bloody Americans and you damn Yankees and Southerners. The two genders. That's right. My pronouns are A-up. A-up. Oh, God. Long may your admirable country dominate the world.

Whoa. Wow. Don me. I'll be your sub-daddy. Come extract me. Hook me up to one of your Chinese tubes. Make me say sorry. Long may your freedom and hope provide an example to those suffering everywhere at the hands of their malevolent states.

May your two and a half centuries of unparalleled success. be just the beginning buckle. Your country is the light of the world and the city on the hill. Thank God for the USA. Happy 250th, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson. July 4th, 2026. That's right. That's right.

I believe it was tapped. It was sort of blinked out in Morse code like the guy in the Metallica video, one, you know? That's right. But it was misinterpreted. All he was saying was kill me. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I want to die. I want to die. Please. Turn off the television. It's just reruns of the Big Bang theory. Yeah. So shout out to that little proof of life. I can't listen to that Jewish,

my ambialic anymore. The necessity of her Ashkenazi cadences. Yeah. Breaking my brain. I can't stand it. So, yeah, we, you know, we had all of, all of the goats out here celebrating 250, including people who actually work in our own government, like, you know, super Zionist Ted Cruz, who, you know, has been getting a lot of flack from, I feel like, the America first, you know,

anti-Israel wing of his party. He's definitely been, you know, someone who's been accused of not putting America first, but putting Israel first. They say that they actually accuse him. It's crazy that it's like he can't actually think a thought about America without making it about Israel. Yeah, which I mean, I think it's so unfair. It's very unfair and nuts. You know, and so here is him, Ted Cruz, saying, happy birthday to America on these 250 years.

He says, happy 4th of July. Today is also the 47th anniversary of the daring on Tebby Raid. I was only five at the time. But I remember being inspired by the amazing courage of the ad-F team that rescued the hostages and killed the terrorists. I thought, quote, that's a very Texan foreign policy. And he's retweeting. Stand with us, yes, who's, you know, talking about this. Hold on a second, though.

No, no, no, go back. He retweeted their tweet from 2023. So he missed the chance to say. So it's actually the 50th anniversary. I need to find something about Antibby. Wait. To make my point. So I'm sorry, this tweet is from 2020, you guys.

Yeah, so it's actually this year is the 50th anniversary, if we do the math. So to be clear, Ted Cruz has been in this for the love of the game since before October 7th. In case any of you were confused that, he was just hopping on to the I love Israel. Oh, I see his tweet is from July 20th. Yes. Oh, okay. Yes. Sorry, I didn't even catch that.

But I think that's even better because, you know, there's one thing, you know, to claim that someone is, you know, just following a trend, you know, just a bandwagon, bandwagon Israel fan, you know? Nah, dude. Ted Cruz has been about that life since he entered public life in office. Yeah, he's been about it, about it. Like Biden? Straight up, straight up.

Exactly. You know, if they... If Israel hadn't done the raid on Entebbe, America would have had to invent it. That's exactly right. That is exactly right. Would have had to invent the radon in Texas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or inventing Tebby. And Texas would have invented it. That's right. Another person who brought up this wonderful raid and also simultaneously gave a birthday message to the United States of America is, of course,

Of course, the main man himself, B.B., who said this. Today, the United States celebrates 250 years of independence. 250 years of freedom. That's right. My friends, this fourth of July carries a special meaning for me. Motherfucker said this force of July. So I know I'm being petty here, but this force of Jews. I'm so used to saying

four send Jews in the same sentence. Exactly 50 years ago, as America celebrated its bicentennial, Israel carried out one of the greatest hostage rescue missions in history. Operation Jonathan in Antebi, Uganda. More than 100 innocent hostages were brought. Their operation names used to be a lot cooler.

Yeah. Just name it after a biblical character, not a fucking hypothetical condom. brand. Well, I mean, that's... Rising lion. Iron Yeah. Iron fist. Ribbed Hanukia. I was trying to reach for the same thing, Matt.

Flavored for her pleasure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. Yeah. Well, there's something there. Menstruating Masada. We're doing our best. Tomb explosion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. our courageous soldiers. One commander did not. My brother Yoni, he gave his life so that others could live. This is what the brave soldiers. He gave his life so that others could kill. I mean live.

I mean so I could run for office. I mean be Hitler. I mean what? Go on. Israel and America have done again and again in these 50 years. And 50 years later, we are still defending freedom. We know that freedom is never cheap. It must be continually purchased. It costs three and a half billion dollars a year plus additional supplemental appropriations. Yes, right. Do you know how much this, do you know how much this Israel flagged clan hat behind me? Right. Yes. This cone could have killed three more Palestinians. He's like a reverse Schindler. He's just looking around or all the things he spent on not weapons and he's just lamenting it.

Oh, God. It must be continually defended. The tyrants we face chant, death to America, death to Israel. I thought he said, the tyrants we face chat. Yeah, yeah. Let's get some hearts in the chat.

Let's get a hype train going to chat. For killing more babies. Thank you, Mohamed Bil Saman for the two-year sub. 10 gifted subs from, of course, Britain. Oh, my God. They're wrong about our two democracies. Because when America and Israel stand together, freedom stands stronger.

Happy birthday, America. Hell yeah, dude. Happy birthday to America. And also, happy birthday, or I guess happy death day to his brother. Truly, truly a sad moment for the world because, you know, Netanyahu was and has been milking his brother's death since it happened. And, you know, this marks 50 years. Hey, it's not the only death that Israelis love to milk anytime one of them dies on the battlefield. That's a great point. They love to milk death.

But they couldn't do it with Yoni because his name is more. It's more vaginal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. Yeah, I was thinking about that recently. I was just like, you know, I feel bad for the amount of people who think that it's called a Yonatan egg. I've got a Jade Yonatan egg in my pussy. Get it now on Goop.

Operation Jonathan. Yes. I mean, that egg's going to be covered with Goop. Yeah. That egg is going to be covered with Goop. is going to be quite goofy. Wow. Classy episode.

We're filled with class today. And yes, 250 years of American greatness, American freedom. You know what I actually love about him talking about America in this way? How you doing there, Adam? How's it going? He's still thinking about the post-goop joke. How you're feeling? You think about that goop egg.

Oh, I get so mad at my soul. for saying these things. Don't be mad. We love it, dude. We love it. I mean, at least it's not a kinder egg. That would be very problematic. Yeah, yeah, look, see?

I can, I can top you. Yeah, let's all, let's all get it together, folks. This is a very serious podcast about serious things. What were we talking about? Oh, 250. I want to finally celebrate our 250 years the same way Trump did, you know, which is with a giant parade on the mall, in which there was an attempted, you know, there was an attempted Hamas jailbreak celebration. It was a copycat paraglider. That's right.

And, you know, if you want to know, just. how coordinated Hamas was at their, you know, Gaza flood operation. This is the American attempt. Oh, geez. Maybe one of my favorite all-time videos. This is incredible. There's a guy who's, I don't know what you call. Is this a paraglide?

Yeah, he's paragliding. He's got a big American flag. It's got red, white, and blue on the actual, on the sail on the parachute and he just fucking face first plants on top of one of those like

a tent. A tent. A big festival. I mean, thank God he landed on the tent. Yeah, he probably lived because of it but let's watch it one more time. With videos like this, I wish they went on 10 seconds later because I want to know. I know, but it didn't

unfortunately go on any longer than that, but someone did add Patrick Star from SpongeBob to it. So here's a bat. As the SpongeBob band, that one hit pretty good. Anyways, guys, we got some more content for you. Some more content related to

our actual topic, not just a video of someone hitting themselves. Now that we just read, actually, that Hamas is like dissolving the government or something, we'll cover that next time. if it's true or it was a CNN but if they're looking for new work they could do paragliding lessons that's right that's right for chuds yeah i i don't know they're better at it well we shall see what the results of that i did see a CNN um headline that said uh something like

hamas was uh because of the stalled uh you know peace plan or whatnot hamas was offering to dissolve i it's CNN reporting it so i don't entirely um I'm sure that'll satisfy Israel. I'm sure they'll be like, oh, great, thanks. The thing we've been demanding and saying is our condition for ending the fucking genocide. You've met it. Great. We're calling it off.

I wouldn't, I'm not putting too much stock in that. So we're reporting that as unverified on the badass bar podcast as of now. We shall see what happens. But there's a couple more things we need to talk about. One of this is the different. feat of Dan Goldman. Speaking of CNN, Dan Goldman was on Jake Tapper recently, talking about him losing to, now who did he lose to? Was it Daria Li's he lost to? Or was it? Bradlander. No Bradlander. Bradlander. That's right. That's right. He has lost to Bradlander.

You know, he lost to a different Jew. And his lesson from that, of course, is that it must have been anti-Semitism. And he went on Jake Tapper and said this. He will take a more even-handed approach in his criticism, but also similarly when

really egregious He's talking about Mamdani. Yeah, he's talking about Mayor Mamdani. Because this is not a First Amendment issue. And he had Mahamud Khalil at his house, at the mayor's house. And he said he was doing that because he supports Khalil's right to free speech.

Hilarious. Goldman says this is not a free speech issue. He's going to try to thread some needle. And Jake Taber cuts in, he had Mahmoud Khalil at his house. And as you know, Mahmoud Khalil, nothing First Amendment there. And he says, he says is because he supports his free speech. Yes. If you believe that. The fact that Jake Tapper is going to interrupt his train of thought to bring up Mahmoud Khalil and have the only thing that implies that it has more than free speech that he's protecting be the fact that his name is Mahmoud Khalil.

That's it. He is 100% banking on people just being like, Mahmoud Khalil. I don't know who that is, but that's a scary name. And it's just like this, there's supposed to be the shared understanding between Tapper and Golden here. I never judge a book by its cover. I judge a book by the language the cover is written in. That's right.

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, you know, he's talking to, Tapper's talking to Goldman, like they both have the shared understanding of who Mahmood Khalil really is. And it's that implication that he is anything other than a student who is expressing his rights to free speech is absolutely absurd. And went to jail for months and missed the birth of his child for it. Yes.

Detained without charge. Threatened with deportation many times. There's no First Amendment issue here. Yes. No clearer case of someone being persecuted for political speech. No clearer case. Never done anything violent. Yes.

I just like it is absurd and in a fury. I mean, Mahmoud Khalil is one of the most. conciliatory measured speakers, which is why they made him one of the main voices of the encampments. That's right. He had this ability to just kind of, in a very clear, calm, non-inflammatory way, explain what was behind it. That's right.

Yeah. And, of course, you know, that doesn't mean anything to those who are persecuting him, you know. Oh, it means a lot. In fact, it makes him more dangerous. Right. True, true, true. But his, you know, the... Him not being or, you know, violent or speaking out in a violent way or him, you know,

threading this very particular needle is, is, means nothing to these people. I mean, the fact that CNN is going to have Jake Tapper on here, like, implying that Mahmoud Khalil is anything other than the victim of the government is so fucking infuriating. And also, and look at this. Dan Goldman lost. He's a loser. He's on his way out. He's a failed incumbent. And what does he get?

He gets a house call from Jake Tapper. Like CNN's lead news anchor travels to Capitol Hill, sits down with Dan Goldman. Do you want to do a dry by on your way out? Yeah, exactly. It's just like rubbing his back. I mean, this is like he is doing a house call here. He's doing everything that you do right before you put a dog down.

He's going to give him a treat. You know, he's going to have him the last walk at the park. You know, he's going to tell him, no, you're right about Mahmoud Khalil. Just take dinner for a good boy. Dan Goldman will be a regular contributor on CNN. Absolutely. Absolutely. In six months.

Yes. And his like lower third is we, Dan Goldman, former rep, current victim of anti-Semitism. Yeah. With that. It's not a question of the First Amendment. It's a question of whether or not the things. that people say are okay in our society. If anybody...

Hold on a second. Hold on a second. It's not a question of the First Amendment. That's right. It's a question of whether or not the things that people say are okay in our society. Yes. Yes. That's what the First Amendment is for is to say the government has no right to adjudicate whether the things that people say are okay in our society. Listen, I am not...

It's just not about whether or... or not someone can or can't own slaves. This amendment is irrelevant to the point where in this society, can't I have people who work for me who I don't pay? There's a different thing here, guys. Different thing completely. I'm just saying this women's right to vote thing, you know, the fact that he can say that with a straight face,

It just shows like the Zionist like brain rot that exists now where you're trying to thread a needle of doing something incredibly illiberal, which is, you know, saying that people shouldn't have the right to say to free speech, but painting it as like, well, no, I mean, maybe not in a government way, but like a societal punishment for those who say these things. It's a really fun. Enforce by the government. Yeah, yes. It's a really fun sort of quantum violation of the transitive principle. Yes. You deny one proposition, but then you affirm its definition. Yes, yes.

Yeah, it's genius. I have nothing against apples. Yeah. But tree fruits with pits and cores that come in Granny Smith and Pink Lady need to be destroyed. Yeah. I don't know where you're getting this, me being anti-apples. thing. You know, I don't know where that's coming from. If anybody said similar slurs or stereotypical tropes about any other...

Similar to what? Similar to what? Similar to the accusation of Zionism that he gets, accusation of being a Zionist, of which he is and openly is proud of. If anyone said anything similar to what I imagine Mahmoud has Khalil has said. Right, exactly. Donnie, what I'm inventing that he said by any other group. Yes, yeah. If anyone else had said from river to the sea about black people. It's like, what does that mean in that scenario?

Well, you know, it means you want to push them into the ocean. If anyone else said one state solution about the disabled, they'd be canceled so fast and make your head spin. Exactly. If anyone else said, you know, we need to end the occupation, but you were talking about trans, then we'd have a different situation, wouldn't we? Now, replace Jews with trans. Doesn't feel so non-bigoted now, does it? Any other minority? I don't know why I'm giving this guy a southern accent.

I'm sorry. Any other protected class, any other minority group, they would be roundly condemned. But for some reason, when people say it about Jews, it's okay. Or there's a dispute about whether or not it is anti-Semitic. And that is, to my mind, that's unacceptable. And I think as the leader of any. When he says say that about Jews, people are saying that about Israel. Right, which you then turn into Jews.

And about Jews who support Israel. Yes, yes. And it's just like, God, the amount of resentment that these people have over these fucking essentialist liberal mores when it comes to talking about race or gender or any sort of like identity politics, the resentment that they cannot have that standard equally applied to Jews because maybe Jews. have a different experience in America, maybe because the, you know, idea of a collective one Jewish experience in America is not analogous to the experience of Mexicans in America or the experience of black people in America. That is just, you can, it's always underneath all this. It's a seething resentment that civil rights language, that just social justice language,

and rules do not apply to an apartheid state and its supporters in the United States. It's so funny. There's also a tremendous resentment that democracy functions to any extent. He's basically saying, look, I'm all for electoral representative democracy. Yes. But what happened to me is beyond the pale. A group of people that anonymous masses came out. and essentially canceled me.

Think of me. That's right. Poor put upon 253 millionaire. So tell us, Adam, what is this guy? I mean, he's blue-blooded. He's blue-gene-blooded. That's right. What's the deal with this guy?

His, let's see, his great-great-grandfather was a grocery magnate and founded a grocery concern that later became the store smart and final. Oh, wow. And his great-grandfather was the longtime CEO and then chairman of Levi Strauss company. That's crazy. Can we stop right there? He's the heir to a billionaire Levi Strauss fortune. And smart and final.

What is smart and final? Smart and final, I don't know how to describe it. It's like worse. It's a smaller, faster warehouse store. Yes. It's a mini Costco. It's like it's a bulk grocery warehouse for small restaurants. Yes. And it is like in terms of quality, not the greatest. I don't know if you've ever had smart and final hummus before.

Can't say as I have. I have. There was a comedy club that exclusively served smart and final hummus. They didn't tell anyone it was at. And it was, I mean, it was, you know, shame on me for trying the smart and final hummus. But I just was, I was hungry. And they, They had a limited menu, and I didn't want a boiled hot dog. But so he is... Say the name of the club. I'm not going to say it. No, it's a good club. Okay, but so you're saying he's the heir to Levi Strauss? To the president?

He's not a Strauss, but his great-grandfather was the CEO from something like 1928 to 1950, and then the chairman of the company, after that. Wow. Crazy. So he was just, he's just kind of... He has a lot of money. He's one of your, you know, Danny Everyman. His name is Daniel Sacks Goldman? No. That is his name. His parents are named Saxon Goldman. No, it's not. Initially, when I wrote the research dog on that, I put his name and then in parentheses, Jesus fucking Christ. Yo, his name is fucking Goldman.

Sacks. Get the fuck. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. We are proud to, we're proud to announce the wedding of Jenny Bear and Mark Stearns.

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are you, do you take each other to be a loving polycule Oh God, that's funny Crazy I mean so What about how

He met his wife At an A-Pack Young Leadership Conference Well that's just You know The adversity he's had to overcome That was J-Date before J-Date Okay You would go to an A-PAC conference

And you would You would meet a nice Jewish girl And then together you would Make Alia So his then made the alia with two backs it says here

Goldman followed in an elite track from Sidwell Friends School in Washington D.C. to Yale undergrad and Stanford law so you know this this is someone who institutional hurdle after institutional

hurdle yeah I mean truly at every turn his Jewishness has been haunting and plaguing him and prevent and still yet somehow he made it through to the halls of Congress. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, this guy. And it's been very tough for him because he did have to spend $4 million of his own money to get elected and spent the entire campaign dodging accusations that he bought his seat.

Yeah, well, listen. And then get to get beaten by a coppo. I mean, it's anti-Semitic to say that he bought his seat, you know, because that's, oh, you're saying that. me as someone who spent four a million dollars on my own campaign is all of a sudden I'm purchasing it that's a little fucked up he leased his seat that's right exactly you know you never really own that seat you're just renting it from the american people or a pack depending on what you stand for i mean it is it is amazing the victimhood complex that these people um not not only have but have no shame about openly expressing and that to me is always that's the key

I know a lot of people who have a lot of shame about openly expressing their grievances. And the shame is, I don't know, it's like a useful bodily response because they understand that it is, you know, maybe something I shouldn't say out loud because as soon as I interrogate it with anyone else, they might immediately call me out on the fact that literally I am the son of the Levi's train. CEO and the creator of Smart and Final. But why would you think twice about saying it if CNN keeps giving them the opportunity to say it? The platforming of these people to say the shit, there's an insatiable thirst for it. Yes. Yes. It really is.

And, you know, I wouldn't even say there's a thirst for it because there certainly isn't like a mass thirst. No. There's only a thirst from these institutions, from media institutions like CNN. similarly handicapped by institutional hurdles, representatives like Jake Tapper and Data Bash and Joe Skybro and... Yes. Wolf Blitzer. My God. Do you know the road he's had to hoe? Roe he's had to hoe?

He has had a hard life, you know? He worked for A-PAC for a while. And then I, you know, I don't know, he's been on CNN for so long. There's some kind of joke available. of like, you know, what's the difference between, no, that's never mind. I'm trying to flip. No, no, there are no bad ideas.

Let's just beat this joke. A hard hoe versus a hard hoe to row. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A hard wolf to blitz. Over a hard wolf to clits. Wolf clitser. I would have said tits, but, you know. Tits good too.

Anyways, in general, there's sort of a, you know, freak out over this. There's this new kind of, thing that's emerging now in the Democratic Party that's very similar to the never-Trump Republicans where it's like now you have never mom-dani Democrats, right? These were kind of like the never-burny people from before times. But now it's like, you know, now that there is an explicit, you know, anti-APEC, anti-Israel stance in it, it's they're making Mamdani because it's a foreign, you know, name because it is a,

he's a Muslim, the poster boy of this type of movement. And so not only do you have these like never, never, um, Mamdani Democrats, but you have these Republicans who sound like the Democrats, the centrist ones who are just like,

I just want a strong opposition party. I want a strong Republican Party that believes in its old values, you know, not this, not this MAGA stuff. Now you've got Republicans who are just like, I want a Democratic Party who, you know, a strong one, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the anti-communist Democratic Party.

And what they actually mean is, I want a Democratic Party that's easy to beat. Yes. Because their constituents hate them. That's right. That's what both of them meant. That's what literally is what the people, the never Trump Republicans meant. That's what the Democrats who wanted a strong, like, like Nancy Pelosi, you know, I, I want a strong Republican Party. It's a, I want one that isn't so dang popular. Yeah.

I want, I want one that I, we can beat, like, you know, you. You know, back, like Mitt Romney. I want one that has, that doesn't have a finger on the pulse of how people actually feel about the world and their lives. Yes, yes. I just want to, you know, fight things out in the marketplace of ideas. And if somebody needs financing for that marketplace. Exactly. So I know a guy who runs a smart and final who loves to finance marketplaces.

I'm sorry. The shup of ideas. Yes. here is Brian Kilmead on Fox News just talking about Brian Kill Me Yeah Brian Kill Me

talking about the anti-Apex sentiment What's the other big theme that we've been talking about really for the last two weeks And as Congressman Jeff Andrews said It's good for his party that this is happening

But it's not good for our country And that is the rise of socialism With that Islamists Seems to have adhered to the Democrat socialist And add that to add that to anti-Semitism and a vehement hate for Israel. You got this guy, Abdul al-Said, who just got endorsed by AOC, a socialist from New York, who's come out and can't answer the question, should Israel exist?

And if you say I taking money from APEC as a Democrat, which is a lobbyist group, the Israeli lobbyist group, you're basically done as a candidate. That's where this party is right now. Yeah. And that is a good thing. Yeah, say that without the shock quotes. Right. That sounds good.

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, this is like you can feel, obviously, it's the same type of energy that the never Trump Republicans or the, you know, centrist Democrats had on the other side. And now it's just, it's now it's just reversed. Meanwhile, you've got Netanyahu going on Fox News. But before you, before you, I just want to comment on the, the backdrop of that Fox News segment. their couch segment. They were broadcasting live

from Liberty State Park in New Jersey. I was surprised they didn't use the renamed name for that park which is no one ever danced here. Oh, yeah, that's right. Vista, New Jersey.

No one ever celebrated 9-11. This is a memorial to all the Israelis who didn't exult. We will dance again. Who was it who said I think America needs another 9-11 to remind them

with their friends? are. Some Israelis said it or some online. It was Laura Lumer said it. No, no, no. It was someone else. It was actually in Israeli. Oh, okay. Well, Laura Lumer also said it. America needs another 9-11 and we're willing to do it. Yes. And we've got another one. We don't usually like to repeat ourselves.

Tell me if you've heard this one before. Crashing, right? Netanyahu went on Fox News to do some similar griping about anti-Israel sentiment spreading throughout the Democratic Party. You're touching on my next question because a source close to the vice president's team told Politico that that statement that he made reflects his view of this new political reality where, quote, the vice president sees that the ground is shifting against Israel among voters, including with younger Republicans. He's responding accordingly with nuance instead of stridency. Do you take that as a warning that if Israel were to act alone, the Trump administration would withhold its backing? Well, first of all, look, we, you know, stridency, we invented stridency,

and anyone who prefers nuance over stridency is anti-Semitic. That's right, exactly. Enjoy working your iPhone without stridency. It concerns me that there is that element of anti-Israel. First of all, in the Democratic Party and in the woke right, I'm concerned with that. And to the extent that we can do something to mend it, obviously I'll do it. If there's anything the right is, it's woke. I love this attempt to brand the literal most hard line fucking open anti-Semites, you know, on the right.

as the woke right is really funny. Didn't he call them the woke Reich? Did he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we covered it. Yes, that, that's... It was when he gathered all these, like, these dead-eyed Zuma influencers. Yes, he's like...

And he's saying, it's interesting. You can use that. Yeah. But I don't want to miss a thing. You got a patient behind you. Look at that. My baby. Hi, love. Hi, Karina.

Hi, we're talking about the news. the attempt to frame people like Dan Blasarian or whatever as, or Candace Owens as well as woke is so funny, especially when it is just so clearly the opposite of the Hasbar that is coming out. You know, it's like the Hasbara is nothing but Dan Goldman wokeness. It's just like, hey, man, you know, whatever happened to being woke and using that wokeness to protect me.

who was a persecuted minority. And it's true, he is a persecuted minority. Dan Goldman is literally part of the 1%. So, you know, as a son of a multimillionaire or billionaire, I suppose, yeah, you know, he is persecuted. I find that there's something unique about these attacks. And that's something is that the people who hate Israel end up hating America. And I've seen that.

You know, when they do these, you know, these demonstrations, these protests against Israel, against Israel defending itself, this tiny country defending itself against these. This little baby, this tiny widow baby boy defending itself against these grown baby boys or other babies. Sometimes it's other babies. Israel's a little baby who has to kill other babies. So it's actually that is okay. No age gap. terrorist murders who commit to exterminate us.

And we do what any self-respecting country would do. We defend ourselves. Okay, I'm sorry, but I cannot keep my eyes off of the photo. Yes, I just saw this. Is that Sarah, Netanyahu? That's Sarah. It looks like they did like a background remover and then cut it out and then pasted it, but pasted it not evenly onto the canvas.

Yes. The collage. It also looks like she's lifting his walls. Dude, it looks like this look, that is the most anti-Semitic, the husband and wife picture I've ever seen. It looks like she's sucking. I'm going to meet your pocket plush. Yeah. That's what I imagine she sounds like.

She's just very much got like, again, Nazi cartoon style holding of globe. It's to see that he's got his own biography, autobiography on itself. Yeah, B.B. By my book, BB. Yeah, he goes on. When they do the protest, they burn Israeli flags. And very often, right next to them, they burn American flags. But when those Americans who support Israel, non-Jews and Jews alike, when they do their flag burning. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Then it's fine.

To support Israel, they waive the Israeli flag and they wave the American flag. So I think there's a process taking place inside America. Yeah, no one's ever waived a flag at a pro-Palestine protest. That's right, exactly. It's just incredibly funny, this attempt to paint a picture of a marginalized pro-Palestine electorate or, you know, population. I mean, you look at these protests all over, not just the country, but all over the world. and they are not what he describes as like these like young fucking uh you know masked men who are um burning american flag antifa burning flags no it's fucking grandies it's

fucking middle-aged dudes like us you know it's uh people bringing their kids out it is uh it is not this this picture that he's painting And he's painting it for these old people who are currently, you know, in hospice care watching this shit, who still watch Fox News, trying to, you know, convince them that, yeah, don't worry, this is just the same old 1960s, you know, style communist agitators that they've always been. And it's just, and it's, it's not that at all. It is a broad movement of real people who are, some are incredibly fucking, quote, patriotic, would never burn an American flag. In fact, they, you know, they love America to the point where they want to kick out everyone who is not American. And then there are some people who love America so much they fought for it. Right.

And there was a massive veteran protest. Yes. Yeah. Like, you know, anyway. Yeah, it's just bad Hezbara. Whoa. That's crazy, guys. That's crazy.

Before we go, I just want to share one thing. A friend of mine made this. A friend who showed me, remained nameless. I am going to see in two nights from now in Edmonton, Alberta, Angine de Poitrine. I'm actually going to see them live. Oh, hell. And I'll be doing the, you know, the this and the bouncing.

up and down and doing all the goofy, corny shit. I feel like discourse on them is taking a turn where people are like, these guys are corny. But I think they're corny in a really great way, and their music's great. They're supposed to be corny. That's the bit. The bit is it's like they're like doing, you know,

art guy's shit. Quebec art guy's shit. Yeah, exactly. This is the province that gave us Cirque de Soleil and Celé and Dion. And then you hear the music, and the reason it works is because the music goes hard. It goes really hard. It's like, oh, wow.

Those weird art circus freaks are going hard. Yeah, no, they're the exemplar of bit commitment. Yes, exactly. And this political cartoon goes even harder. Hell, yeah. Angine de Palestine. Oh, I love that. Isn't that great?

Yes. With the polka dots? It's very good. And yeah, I got the, yeah, yeah, got the polka dots. And it's got the New Yorker font, too, the italicized caption. Yeah, yeah. I was looking at it, and I thought it was maybe a New Yorker cartoon. No, it's not Ross Chest.

Yes, but I feel like people should at least see what enjean de Putin. Okay. Yeah, Putin and John. Yeah, 14n means chest. Oh, look at that. Look, I learned a little bit of French. But yeah, if you don't know what they look like in order to, like, you know, fully get the bit.

You gotta be able to understand the bit. Yeah, this is what they look like if you haven't seen them before, so you can understand like the Pocodot bit. This is what they look like. They're there. Yeah. Weird looking French dudes.

This guy, is that a, like, a guitar and a bass at the same time? Yeah, it's a double-neck microtonal guitar. I think it's in Eastwood. Yo. And they got, of course, the looping pedal. So he's playing the bass and he's playing the guitar. It's fucking good shit.

You know, not something. I casually listen to or anything, but I know Daniel likes him a lot, and maybe I'll give them a look. But shout out to your homie who made this an awesome picture. Yes, indeed. Yeah. And, you know, shout out to Montreal. I don't know. They just seem like a crazy place where he's got Canadians speaking French.

How could you tell that was Montreal in the background? It is. Oh, I assumed it was. Yeah, yeah, it is. Because you talked about Montreal. And you got the Expo, you know, the Olympic Stadium and then the, you know, the Olympic Stadium. and then the, yeah, the, and the, you got that bridge-looking thing. The cross on the mountain, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, look, the cross on a mountain. No one's ever done that before. Y'all think you're special. Anyways, so shout out to whoever that artist is who will remain nameless. And shout out to all of you out there for listening slash watching another episode of the world's most moral podcast, Bad Hasbara, producer Adam, Daniel Mate thank you guys so much

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