Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 102: Now That's What I Call Hamas, with Nora Barrows-Friedman

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by four-time guest, Associate Editor at The Electronic Intifada, Nora Barrows-Friedman to reflect on the passing of Pope Francis, to celebrate the wild Irishmen and senior citizen-adjacent punkers supporting Palestine at Coachella, and to find out if Canada prefers a stuffy technocrat or a smug golf dad as their leader.Please donate to Islamic Relief USA: https://irusa.org/See Matt and Francesca Fiorentini at Cobb’s in San Francisco May 7: http://bit.ly/mattfrancobbsVisit Nora at https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedmanSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87OzNLA78UH82MI55Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-hasbara-the-worlds-most-moral-podcast/id1721813926Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Olive Garden us White foster us Zabrahamas Hasvars us GOMOSTAI, bonacera, and welcome to Bad Hasbara. The world's most moral podcast, eh? That's right. My name is Matt Lieb.

I'm your most moral co-host of this podcast. And I'm the other most moral hoser over up here in the Great White North. Yes. Dangomatic. Kourou-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-s. Shout out to all the Bob and Doug McKenzie. fans out there. I love it. I love it. It's a great accent. What is that accent? Saskatchewan? It's, it's sort of the platonic ideal of Canadian accent. Of Canadian accent. Yeah, like the rural.

Like that's our, hey, you know what? I'm hearing it's right. Northern Ontario, Saskatchewan, yeah. But it's, you know, it's, you know, Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas did these other characters. SCTV. Yes. Then Rick Moranis went on. on to Honey I Shrunk the Blank Fame. And then he went on to retire. And he just turned 72. He's so cool. I love a guy who's just like the most famous person, just at his peak.

And he goes, fuck this, you know? Seriously. And he didn't come back like Dave Chappelle, you know, like Dave Chappelle came back and he said, I have some trans jokes. Like Rick Moranis stayed. He stayed gone. He was just like, I'm done. What am I?

I did space balls? What are you? want from me. And he wasn't like Martin Short, who was his sort of, he replaced him, I think, on SCTV, who just won't go away. Not that he should go away. He's great, but he's the most insistent little guy, funny Canadian comedian. Like, he's, like, he insists upon himself. He insists upon himself very much. Yes. He does. But you know what? It makes sense. He is, he's a genius. If it wasn't for Jiminy Glick, I, I'd have been dead a long time. patient but but my god anyway hello welcome to bad hasbara so excited for all of you to join us for

another great episode of bad hasbara where we're going to get into the same thing that we always get into talking about madmen the i'm just kidding sort of uh so today uh oh first shout out producer adam levin of course please subscribe on all of the apps and please go to patreon.com slash badass barra and please join our Patreon for your weekly bonus episode. There are a lot of fun. You don't want to miss out on content, do you? Please don't. So do that and subscribe to our YouTube channel and all that shit.

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We're going to be doing some stand-up, co-headlining separate sets. I'm going to go up. She's going to go up and stuff like that, you know, but it's going to be really fun and we're probably going to, you know, do jokes about each other while we're on stage. It'll be really fun. Please, it's coming up. Don't miss out. It's going to be a really fun. show Daniel what's the spin well I got no records today I just got no records and I could tell you

I could you know name some songs that have been on my mind but I'll save that for when I'm back with with my collection you know okay but being up here in Canada my home country that's right I landed at a time when something was going on that it didn't even realize what's going on it's a federal election here a federal election beginning of next week yeah what is that mean like that's when you choose a new prime minister exactly or we choose the same prime minister that's great and uh but up here what's great is you know how in the states you've got only two parties yeah which means that people who have principles are every time they're perennially cast into this dilemma where you know do they vote their conscience which is to vote for i don't know a third party someone who's

non-existent third party, you know, some hopeless third, or do they vote strategically? Well, up here, we actually have third, fourth, and fifth parties. So people are still having to vote strategically between the only two parties that have a chance of winning. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Which is the shitty center-right liberals and the scary bulls-on parade conservatives. But there actually is a venerable third party that New Denny. Democratic Party that they can consider wasting their vote on.

And I say that sadly, because I grew up with a family that always voted New Democrat, you know, the Orange Party. But they just don't have a hope. Like they're just not challenging, they're not doing what a third party is supposed to do, which is to, you know, scare the center. Yeah, scare the main party into adopting some of the ideas. Not really happening. But anyway, not having my records on me today, what's spinning in my mind is a couple of just

amazing Canadian political ads that I saw that I wanted to share with you guys. All right. Here is one of them. This will give you a taste. This is our current prime minister. Hold on a second. This is Mark Carney, who you were just mentioning that this is a madman podcast. Well, this is Doug Phillips.

He's going to get drunk and trick me into a job interview. Exactly. I love this. All right, here we go. I have a simple rule. Spend less, invest more. Let's say you buy a home. The down payment and the mortgage cost a lot up front, but your home builds value over time.

That's an investment. This is the Prime Minister of Canada currently, Matt. This is our current Prime Minister. Oh, man. Trudeau stepped down and made way for him, and now he's running for re-election. So he wasn't elected, but he is the, yeah. We've had a lot of prime ministers like that who have ended up, Prime Minister, because the other person stepped down. Yeah.

In America, that happens because someone does an assassination. That's right. In Canada, it's because someone's being. polite that's exactly right it's like this is basically just like a you know economics grade grade 10 economics class in the form of a of a commercial i just wanted to be Harvey oswald in the in the book depository just with a megaphone instead of a sniper rifle just going hey step aside eh you should l bj have a chance and then he's fiscally responsible he's viscally responsible yeah that's more of a minute's electricity i can't

Do it? No, no, it's as close as you're going to get. It's as close as I'm going to get. All right, here we go. Value over time. That's an investment. Now, you still have other bills like heat and electricity. You need them, but they don't make you better off in the long run. Those are operational expenses. I will balance our operational budget in three years.

We'll spend what we need to with the money we already have. And we'll do things that encourage the big investments that create jobs and grow our economy. Like building millions of homes, making Canada a... clean energy superpower and creating new trade routes so we're not dependent on the united states there it is invests more hell yeah all of the canadian all of the liberal party ads right now are all about being like we're not america but you know they they slip that one in there at the end but they're trying to paint pierre pauliev who's our you know the the the conservative guy as a as a mac yeah yeah yeah but i just love how the the the energy of that commercial is like a

Council ad in a mid-market American city, like Boulder, Colorado. Oh, God. It's, it brings me, like, I'm not, I'm going to be honest with you. I see something like that, and I'm just like, maybe Canada is sick. Like, maybe I should just move there. I just like, I like that the tone of that was just like, I mean, listen, he, I'm not entirely sure. I don't know your politics, but it sounds like he's doing like a nice pitch for austerity.

Oh, absolutely. And, you know, obviously don't like that. But, you know, just the tone itself of the pleasantness is enough to make me go like, hey, these guys got a pretty good thing going. Yeah. I mean, don't ask him about Gaza, but I wouldn't. But, you know, it would be nice to have a polite answer to that. Exactly. So that's the right, the centerish party, the ones in power.

And this commercial is the one that really caught my attention as, I mean, this is, if you want to see like upper crest Canada, in a in 30 seconds check this out here's two two two i call this this commercial two old white guys playing golf i love it just what they're doing i love the start how's your son hell how's your son david it's been a tough few years for him he just can't seem to get ahead yeah we had to pay for sarah's down payment last year things are tough for her too you know what mark carney says come on do you really think that a fourth liberal term is going to change anything you know i've been thinking the same thing are we really going to give these clowns a fourth term i'm voting conservative there you go yeah for a change that is amazing he's doing it during a

fucking golf swing is a really funny time to make your pitch yeah and the guy just suddenly changes his vote yeah you're right yeah you're right i was thinking the same thing i was thinking about your son and how everything sucks. Yeah. And then I was thinking about my son. Just so you know I'm rich and I bought my daughter a house. I love that. We had to make a down payment on my daughter's house.

It's terrible. Yeah, you know, my son's really having a hard time getting going. The masculinity that they're trying to shove him into these days is, it's just not a man's masculinity, you know. Yeah. You know, I'm starting to think that everyone's trans now. Well, maybe it's time to vote for the other. guy i never thought about it that way before okay anyways i like they're just casual they're casual

about it it's very it's all so casual so that's that's what's spinning up here and that's what's spinning well that's a beautiful spin shout out to canada you got a great thing going um i mean there's a lot of bad things but it seems a lot of bad things and one day we're going to have to do an episode dedicated entirely to canadian zionism absolutely because it's nasty up here actually yeah it's wild uh and people have been since we talked about like tease the idea of doing an episode about it people have been sending us stuff so we really got to do some like sifting sift through and find find all of the uh the juiciest morsels for all of you hogs to feed on um but now let's introduce our wonderful guest it's a returning champion

probably the most booked guest in Bad Hezbara history. No champion has returned this many times. This is, I mean, this is like, we're talking about, we're talking about the early Otts Lakers here. Just nothing but championships. You know her. She's a journalist. She is the associate editor of the Electronic Intifada.

Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, welcome back Nora Barrows Friedman. Oh, my God. Thank you guys. Thank you. Hell yeah. Four. Four. Four. Four. Four. Four. There I am. Four. All them rings. Hold up them rings. So good to see you. How are things? How you've been? Not great. Yeah. Yeah. But Daniel reminded me of the fantastic movie Strangebrew, which used to lift my spirits when I was a kid. And I think I should introduce my nine-year-old son.

to it because i don't know strange brew what's strange canadian cult classic it's it's bob and dog mackenzie it's that movie oh i didn't know they made a movie phenomenal okay yeah i'm gonna something about them them realizing that if you find a rat in your beer you you'll get a case of beer for free so they go about this set about trying to like put rats in beer and they go to the to the beer factory the elsinore factory and they try and get free cases of beer and then they get like wrapped up in this whole saga where like the factory itself um ends up uh like programming uh hockey players to do evil things and it's so it's very canadian fantastic it's i love it i love that there's like you know when you you know when you see like so

Twitter's filled with uh Nazis right um and uh one of the like Nazi memes that's out there is people saying doing like white people uh SJW you know says white people have no culture white people and then it'll show like a montage of Roman statues and fucking like like an Italian opera singer singing something while you know people are crying and everyone's you're supposed to take from this oh not only do white people have culture but we invented Colors. Yeah, we invented culture. Yeah. There's like a Canada version of that where it's like Canadians have no culture and it's just that movie. It's just hockey, beer, putting rats and stuff to see if you can get a discount. Yeah, that's what they call beanies there. Yeah. Yes. There you go. Look at that.

You have your tok ready to go. I love it. So Canadian. You've got a, it's a Canadian skull. cap. I love it. The old Canadian Yamika. No, look, I could put together a slightly countercultural list of Canadian culture that would be hella cool. But it wouldn't be the sort of thing that

these Nazi accounts would go for. They wouldn't reach for, you know, kids in the hall or... Right. Which is like, you know, it's stupid. Adamagoian films. It's stupid because, you know, all of the things that they reach for are just like, you know, like old Roman bullshit. And it's just

like you have no connection to that you are much closer to the you know canadian guys trying to put a rat in beer you know just be real that's real white culture that's real white culture and be proud of it uh let's see italian whiteness 70 year olds 70 years old at best exactly adam like the let's let's be real what you're going to take roman shit and be like what you're italian now come on you you have slurs for them um so Nora, speaking of Italians, the world's foremost Italian died this week. He was Argentinian, but yeah, but he... As soon as you become Pope, you're officially Italian, I believe.

That's right. I mean, I'm not sure how nationality works. Yeah. But I believe that as soon as you enter the, what do you call it, Vatican? Vatican. Yeah, once you get into the gates of Rome and you have the... tallest most poignant hat you officially want the spicy meat the ball and and so yeah i'm turning milanese i think i'm turning milanese i really think so yes very good that's what it worked no it worked um but yes uh

the pope died and uh this is a pope francis turning genoves would have been so much better god damn it Ah, that was, but, you know, Genevies, Millenese, they both work. Yeah, but Genevies sounds more like Japanese. It does. It's how you judge as a success of a pun. Minimal change for maximum. I know, but what are you going to do?

You're going to judge yourself for off the top of the don't punning and parody songing? Come on. You can't do it. I'm going to judge myself and I'm going to rate myself out of ten. I like that your dad was also rating you. That's where it comes from. That brought some, some comfort and familiarity.

And now our and now our commenters are all taking liver. Everybody used to rate every single one of my jokes, our jokes. You fucked up. Yeah, it put a lot of much-needed context in the old matty brain. So the Pope died, and this was, you know, weirdly, you know, as someone who's not a Catholic, you know, someone who's not religious at all, this actually did make me sad because of the fact that this. Pope has been, I would say, far and ahead above any world leader when it comes to displaying any kind of empathy towards the people of Palestine who are dying by the thousands. And yeah, it's been one of those weird things where ever since it happened, you see like,

I don't know, it's like you're starting. to see the like Hasbara press the Israeli PR machine doing this thing where they're all like hanging their heads and sadness over it when I'm like I'm pretty sure you guys have been calling

this guy Hamas for months now it's kind of wild so let me first play a little bit of a video from AJ Plus talking about Pope Francis So in the months before his death

Pope Francis called Gaza's only Catholic priest Let's see Almost every night Oh yeah Gaza's only Catholic parish Almost every night And this is just a video of him talking He's like

Bonneseer, I am the Pope Yousuf Goodsena, how are you? Oh So very, thanks a God I'm very well. Thanks be to God. Forgive me. I was at Mass. Ah, at mass. What did you eat today? Chicken wings. Nice. The rest of the chicken from yesterday, the chicken that was left over. The Pope began his nightly calls to the Holy Family Parish in Gaza on October 9th, 2023.

He built relationships with the priests at Holy Family, including five. Father Yusuf Asad and Father Gabriel Rominelli. Aslam alaikum. He's talking to a child. I mean, just like, you know, you're seeing these images, and it's like one of the things that I think made him stand out from every other world leader was just the idea that he would actually not just even. Even, you know, like most world leaders were giving lip service if at best, you know, just like, oh, it is really terrible what's happening. And no child should be hurt. Whereas like this guy, the Pope, is actually calling and talking to people and checking in and calling every single night. And it just really.

And it wasn't just like a one off thing either. Yeah, like you said, every single night. Yeah. What, what, you know, when it comes to this story, You know, I've been kind of waiting for almost like the other shoe to drop where someone goes, actually, this pope was terrible when it came to Palestine because X, Y, Z, some shit I don't even know about, right? Has there been, has there, has there been anything like that? I feel like I haven't, I've only heard nothing but good things about him when it comes to him. I mean, you know, he is the pope of the Catholic Church. True, Catholic Church. It's a bad start always.

It's not the most benevolent, you know, institution when it comes to people. But, you know, but I think in terms of his Palestine advocacy, yeah, I mean, I can't think of another, you know, Western world leader or figurehead who did what he did. and, you know, I think even in his last address in Rome, in the Vatican, sorry, he was talking about, you know, the necessity for an end to Israel's crimes in Gaza. So, yeah, I mean, you know, I think for all intents and purposes, as far as popes go of the Catholic Church, I think. I think he was maybe one of one of the better ones. I mean, at least on Palestine, it seems like it. At least on Palestine, you know, I shuddered to think what his views were on other marginalized communities, you know, trans folks. Yeah.

But, you know, yeah, he was a pope and he called Gaza and he spoke out. And, you know, people across Palestine, across the Arab world have been, you know, mourning him. And that's, that's something. That is something. Both Hamas and Hasbala put out. Really moving tributes, actually. Yeah, nicer statements about the death of Pope Francis than Marjorie Taylor Green Day. There you go.

Yeah. You know. Yeah. Really, like, very respectful. Yeah, yeah. Hasbola extends its sincere condolences to us to. the Vatican, the followers of the Catholic Church worldwide, and all Christians, especially our Christian brothers in Lebanon and the Papal Embassy there on the passing of the Pope

of the Catholic Church, Jorge Mario Bergoglio. He believed in peace, called for the renunciation of war, and worked with deep faith to cultivate the values of love and tolerance, building bridges between religions, civilizations, and peoples in order to establish dialogue, understanding, and justice. that's Hezbollah, Hamas said something very, very similar, but they foregrounded that he was a steadfast advocate for the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, particularly in his unwavering stance against the war and acts of genocide perpetrated against our people in Gaza in recent months. Undoubtedly, the loss of such a significant and committed figure leaves a

profound void that will be difficult to fill. And then Ardrey Taylor Green said, today there were major shifts in global and global leaderships evil is being defeated by the hand of god yeah cool she's the jewish space lasers lady yeah yeah yeah by the way by the way uh israel's greatest advocate a lady who believes that uh jews have space lasers and control the weather uh that is what we call actual anti-semitism which means it's an alert there's no anti-semitism in the united states there we go thank you producer adam for this wonderful bumper which we we plan to use maybe once a month when actual anti-semitism takes whenever we can find it we'll go looking for it yeah but for the most part you know we just see a lot of fake smears of anti-semitism and so yeah the you know let's compare the you know like because

There have been, you know, there was a whole article, you know, from Times of Israel, a man of boundless compassion, leaders in Israel, Mid-East mourned death of hope for instance. I am a man about compassion. Let's see. Condolence is offered by Herzog, Abbas, Hamas leaders, Lebanon, Iran, and European Jewish leaders who all hail his commitment to peace and interfaith dialogue. interesting I love that like we all together we all love that he was a super like peace guy right it's just like looking at Herzog and being like interesting you'd say that um after the catholic

church announced the death of pope francis on monday morning messages of morning and condolences started flowing in from across the world including from israel global jewish leaders and political figures from across the middle east pope francis passed away at the age of 88 A day after marking Easter Sunday at the Vatican, which is, you know, like one thing that's not mentioned there is what did, who did he meet on Easter Sunday? Yeah, who did he meet on Easter Sunday? Oh. Jantz, dance, Vance.

Oh, that's right. Dorts Vance, yeah. That's right. Oh, my God. He gave him a fucking Hillbilly eulogy. Hillbilly eulogy. Hillbilly eulogy. What do you guys think? Seven? Seven at it? Maybe six. I love it. It's 7.5. Yeah. While the Pope was always vocal against anti-Semitism, had visited Israel and had made the first pilgrimage by a Pope to the tomb of Zionist visionary theater Herzl.

His statements against Israel and its war against Hamas and Gaza led to a sometimes contentious relationship with the world jewelry and the, Jewish state. I love, I love, uh, world jewelry being used by, um, Zionists, uh, just because, just one guy who was just like, anyway, so I represent all of us, right? Uh, the state represents all of us, too, but together we're just every Jew. I'm every Jewish. It's only me. All right.

Um, despite this recent antagonism, a president hurts, Sugg offered his condolences to Christians around the globe and in Israel, quote, on the loss of their great spiritual father, His Holiness, Pope Francis. In his statement, Herzog called Francis a man of deep faith and boundless compassion and praised his dedication to the poor and the cause of peace. Unfortunately, the Pope was also under some misapprehensions that the poor and people who deserve compassion included Palestinians but

nobody's perfect especially no non-Jew is perfect he was almost infallible and it's just so funny I mean just like hearing this kind of shit from I just want to play or

show some tweets from one of my favorite guys on the Zionist internet um this is uh arson astrovsky you might remember this piece of shit as the uh he he's an international human rights lawyer um which uh don't be fooled he is a defense attorney for people who do crimes against humanity yeah i love it when when people are named after their favorite crimes to commit against captive populations arson um but it just like here's like just uh

some of the shit he was writing. This is the Pope at Pontifex. By the way, I didn't know that the Pope was on Twitter. That's crazy. It's single-handedly ripping apart decades of work to repair Jewish-Catholic relations by shamefully becoming a propagandist for Hamas. And under this is, he's quote tweeting a video of the Pope saying, this is cruelty, this is not war.

Pope Francis has condemned Israel's bombing of children a day after the territory's rescue agency he said, Israeli airstrike, you know, yada, yada. And that's how you rip apart decades of work. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. We had an agreement. It's by condemning the slaughter of children. Yes, we had an agreement that sometimes children must be sacrificed for the sake of nations and God.

You know what I mean? Wink, wink, wink, watch the movie spotlight. This is another one. Once again, the Pope really needs to stick to it. theology and stay out of politics and war or in the or in the event he wants to engage show some semblance of moral clarity it's true theology theology has nothing to do with uh ruling about you know how nations should conduct themselves and yeah yeah what human beings are entitled to relate to one another yeah yeah the papal's the papacy as as adam says has famously never been

involved in war absolutely not uh yeah and this is uh a quote tweet of an article from the Associated Press headline, Pope Francis calls for investigation to determine if Israel's attacks in Gaza constitute a genocide. I mean, like, just the amount of like finger wagging

against the Pope when it came to his thoughts on, you know, Palestine, when it came to his like moral clarity. And it was just one of those things that you know, when this news happened,

I was just like, oh, and now we're going to see a bunch of bullshit about how much the Israelis and Israeli leadership love it a pope. And how they would never, you know, dream of, you know, speaking out against him and telling him to shut his mouth and play basketball. Which is what Arsinoz Straussky eventually, basically said. Anyways, I, yeah, it is grim. It's grim, you know, RIP to the Hamas Pope. I am, you know, interested to see what happens with, you know, the next Pope. Yeah, I mean, they might like, you know, the Catholic Church. Again, the Catholic Church might, might want to replace Pope Francis with like, you know,

three Netanyahu's in a white robe and a trench coat. Yeah, you can fit at least three under that hat. Yeah, at least. Yeah. So we'll see. We'll see how many Netanyahu's stacked up. I mean, children, children of Christ.

I come to you today. There's a video out there of him like talking to the pope and you know you know Jesus he spoke Hebrew and the Pope is you know getting that translated and he just turns to Netanyahu goes Aramaic yeah yeah yeah Netanyahu's like yeah well it's like what are you doing like do you think everyone is stupid can't even stop lying in front of the Pope I mean he's so like it's just enmeshed inside his whole being to just be a liar. And what's even more of an own, what's even more of an own about that is that, you know, Aramaic is one of the languages that Jews spoke in various parts of the

Arab world. That they still spoke up until the creation of the state of Israel. In Kurdistan, especially, Neo-Arabic was spoken. It was not really a written language. And it was one of the languages that had to get bleached out of these Jews when they moved to Israel, you know, via various operations and turns of events and whatever. And yeah, they were told, no, Hebrew is your new language now. You don't speak these languages that. No, no Yiddish, no Aramaic, no Arabic. Yeah. It's all Hebrew, right? Yeah. My cat is in here. And I didn't realize my cat has been stuck listening to me do Hamas propaganda this whole time

I feel kind of bad. What a good kitten. Yeah, you're a little Zionist. My cat was in here earlier. I had to escort him outside. I'm going to have to escort this one out because I'm sure you need to peepee and poo. I'm sure you need to pee pee and poo.

How does that cat feel about your Hamas kitty sticker? Oh yeah. Do you like it? Do you like it? Oh, you like it? Oh, you like it? The best. She's a good cat. Okay, all right.

I got to take her out. Anyways, that was my kitty cat. Yeah, it's just nice to know that Netanyahu even, you know, talking to the Pope cannot stop himself from trying to fool someone. It's just like, who are you fooling? You think the Pope doesn't know what language was spoken? like the time of Jesus. I think

if anyone knows a thing or two about Christ it's so a fucking Pope what an asshole. So anyways, RIP to a real one. You know, Jesus, one of his most famous sayings was

never negotiate with terrorists. That's right. You know Jesus the thing he said he could never forgive, the only thing he could never forgive, forgive is, you know, is his enemies forcing him to kill their children. You could never forgive that. That's right. It's nuanced, this love your neighbor thing. Oh, man. Yeah. Well, shout out. Catholic, Catholic, catechic, catechism classes with Bibi Netanyahu would be a very funny,

like, Bibi Niatnihu, Niednihu. Bibi teaches, you know, Bibi teaches, you know, Catholic. Catholic Sunday school would be a hilarious. Yeah, that would be nice. I also think Niet in Yahoo would be funny. Niet in Yahoo. Niet, yeah. Oh, Suka! You know.

All right. So, more news of the world. Y'all, I thought we covered all that we would have to cover on this, on last week's Patreon-only episode with Andrea Moore, which you should all. I'm not going to ever say it right. There's too many ways. And I'm not going to ever let you not say it.

Andrea. Andrea. Andrea. Fuck. With Andrea Moore, where we talked about Coachella Weekend 1 in which, you know, we had Green Day, changed a lyric of their, one of their songs to use this of suburbia to be about Palestine. and green band denaday am i right yeah yeah more like red white black and green day you know what i mean

they changed the name of uh or they changed the lyrics of the song about uh children in palestine and the you know hasbaris and pro israel people were flipping out about it cochella weekend too was even more intense as uh irish uh hip hop group kneecap fucking they showed up and made their statement loud and clear and people are unhappy about it here's the airy's not so long ago were persecuted at the hands of the brits but we were never bombed from the fucking skies with nowhere to go the Palestinians have nowhere to go it's their fucking home and they're bombing them from the skies if you're not calling it a genocide what the fuck are you calling it free free free free free free free free free free free so fucking I love those kids I love them they're badass I didn't

I don't know them I did I had not heard of them and now I'm like oh well I need to listen to some of these no not only is their music fantastic and and their lyrics but but their politics are are absolutely on point, like 100%. And there's this feature film that they made that was up for an Oscar. And of course, it didn't win because, you know, their kneecap. But it was one of the best films of last year. Really?

What was it? It's phenomenal. It's called kneecap. Oh, shit. Wait. So it's like it's not really a biopic. It's a feature film with like, but they play themselves. And it's kind of the origin story of how they became a band. And it was nominated for an Oscar?

Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. That's crazy. It's incredible. It's totally incredible. And it's, you know, they've really kind of reignited the movement inside Ireland to, you know, to popular, to repopularize the native language of Irish. Oh, wow.

And so it's all about, like, indigenity. And they rap in Irish. They rap in Irish. No way. Yes. It's so bad. Which I learned when I was there, it's actually. it's inaccurate it's incorrect to call it gaelic you call it irish yeah they call it irish yeah

that is wild you should watch it it's fantastic i love it too because i don't know you know but it's like i i i know occasional you know like sometimes i'll hear a uh chucky garla or whatever and i'm just like yeah i know that one uh and i'm pretty sure that the guy in the band who where's the bala clover is taiky. I'm pretty sure it's a tyke. You think it's tag? Underneath there, I'm pretty sure it's tight. I would love it.

I would love it if he took off the mask and it's tyke. And he's like, hello, everyone. No, you can, in the movie, you can see who he really is. Oh, cool. He's an Irish language high school teacher. It's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. I love those guys.

And then they brought Hassan Piker on stage. That's right. When was it Saturday or whatever? On Saturday. Yeah. Asan Piker came out on stage. And they had, you know, like a big display that came out where it said, it said, fuck Israel, free Palestine. It said a bunch of other things, too.

Yeah. So that was the final slide in a longer, basically a longer argument, right? Yes. And of course, all the reactionaries, all the Zionists pounced on that last one. which fair enough it's unapologetically hostile to Israel and Zionism but it's but it's not like they just projected that they actually made a case and it meant something in the context of that case so the full text is Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people it is being enabled by the US government and are who arm and fund Israel despite their war crimes

fuck Israel free Palestine so it's basically a syllogism it's like be it resolved that this or like with this, then therefore, that. And it's true. Like, I'm sorry. Like, given that those first two sentences are true, the last two sentence, sorry, excuse me, the last sentence is. Completely valid.

It's the logical conclusion. It follows. It follows. Perfectly. And, yeah, people are, hell of mad about it. Yeah, the way, so you go back to that tweet. Only people who think that genocide is a good thing are mad about it.

Right. For instance, the national review. Right. Yeah. From whose article. I just quoted that entire context. The way they frame it is, Irish hip-hop trio kneecap projected an anti-Semitic message on stage at Coachella this weekend. It read, colon, and everything we just read you.

None of that is anti-Semitic. And it is, you know, a perfectly reasonable, you know, response to the previous two sentences. And once again, what you're setting up is for people who don't know what anti-Semitism really means or sort of unsure how it's being used, if what you're telling them is this is an anti-Semitic message, what you're basically inviting them to do is to say, okay, well, I guess being anti-Semitic isn't so bad. Right. Like what you said about Ms. Rachel, right?

Or being Jewish means being able to enact a genocide. Well, even worse. Yeah, yeah. Actually anti-Semitic. Right. I mean, that's what this conflation does over and over again. Is it just, and, you know, this is, we've repeated this, this is well-worn territory,

but this is not good for the Jews. But of course, they don't give a shit about that. I mean, we all know it's all, it's all, you know, just bullshit. Oh, yeah, this is, Sharon Osborne did a long, long tweet about how she's mad about this. Turns out she's half Ashkenazi Jewish on one side. Oh, I did not know that. And she's British, so she hates kneecap for two reasons. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like, first of all, I hate the Irish people. Exactly. Let's see. I'm a big fan of Ozzy Osbourne's writings about Zionism and colonialism, you know? I can imagine. Yeah, you know, I just feel the Jews. What was your way? Yeah, we kicked around everywhere.

You know, he's Harrods. What is it? Sharon. Sharon. Sharon. Sharon. So, uh, so highlighted here in this like long Sharon Osborne, Osborne. born tweet is at a time when the world is experiencing significant unrest, music should

serve as an escape, not a stage for political discourse. Generals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses. Like, fucking, what are you talking about? That music bought her, what, like, you know, 10 houses in the last 50 years. Screw her. Unbelievable. It is just like, shit like that is always like hilarious when it comes from somebody who is not the musician. It's like, no, I'm sorry, you are not Ozzy.

You don't get to be like, music should fuck off. But yeah. So it's, it's she's just, it's just cherry picking because again, Palestine is the exception to free speech. Yes. To music, to expression itself, to any sort of. sort of art to any sort of like community. Yeah, yeah. When it comes to Palestine, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we doing talking politics?

Yeah. Students should not disrupt their classes. Oh, I love it. Do a conciliatory, non-political, just neutral war pigs, you know. Civil pigs. Civil pigs. Yeah. Civil discourse pigs.

Escapeist pigs Yeah I mean and you know people were really bad It was very funny Someone you know wrote this This is some random account Marina Medvin wrote Fuck Coachella

They knew exactly what they were doing Putting a sign up at a music festival They knew exactly what they were doing I think she's right I think they did know exactly what they were doing Another person wrote Of course they knew what they were doing They didn't load the graphic by mistake, Marina.

Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah. These people are so dumb. Yes. Can we see the, do you have the very end of the Sharon Osborne tweet? Because it's actually to a point. Oh, yeah. It's to a particular purpose.

She wasn't just like sort of lamenting it. Yeah. As someone born with both Irish Catholic on my mother's side and Ashkenazi. So she's saying as an Irish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Ashkenazi Jewish heritage on my father's side. That extensive experience in the music industry, meaning I know from Jews. I understand the complexity is involved.

Golden Voice's claim of being blindsided, I don't forget what Golden Voice is, maybe a management company or something, by Kneck's performances seems implausible given the circumstances. I know for a fact that certain people in the industry had written to Golden Voice airing their concerns around the booking of kneecap. And here is the conclusion of this long syllogism. Yes. I urge you to join me. in advocating for the revocation of kneecap's work visa. There you go.

Scratch a liberal. It's almost like she's trying to, oh, what's the word? What she's trying to do to them? Like sort of take them out at like a key joint like in the leg, like sort of like, like, like, you know, like leg punch. Leg punch them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Undercut their ability to bear their own weight. Yeah. Yeah. Forget what the word is, but there's something, there's something it that people. do if they were in the mafia let's say and they're trying to get you to you know return the money that you owe yeah yes yes but it's hard to say what it is yeah it is it's funny how much

that repeats uh you know it throughout the messaging noa tishby put out a whole video um in which she was you know lambasting uh golden voice which is they're the promotion company that puts on Coachella as well as a bunch of other music festivals um and uh lambasting the music industry in general, for, you know, for allowing anti-Semitism to happen at a festival. And she, in the middle of it, I cut it down a bit because, you know, they often repeat themselves. But in the middle of it, just randomly, it's like, oh, and by the way, here's someone who we actually can get canceled, that she just goes after completely apropos of nothing other than, like, well, since we're talking about music, here's a little bit of canary missioning I can do right

now. So here is the video. Mainstream culture in America is being radicalized. The cool, trendy behavior at music festivals and on college campuses now casually includes spreading hate against Jews. Last week at Coachella, a band that has an extensive history of glorifying terrorism. Pause real quick. When she says this, she shows a tweet from Neacat with a photo of the guy with the belliclava reading. Voice of Hezbollah, which is a, what does it say, a book, the statements of, of, Syed Nasrallah. And he's reading it while lounging on a very comfortable looking green room couch.

With like dad shoes on. Yeah, there's like, yeah, like new balance, like dad shoes. And he still has the Balaclava and I love that. She's just imagining someone reading through it is so funny. Went on stage to demonize Israel. In addition at Cornell University, it was just an. that another anti-Semitic performer will be platformed on their campus.

This is someone who has said that Zionists are all evil. Zionists are the scum of the earth and they should all go to hell. She refused to... Can we clip that last part, please? I'd love to have... I'd love to have Noah Tishby's voice

on the soundboard saying, Zionists are all evil, they are the scum of the earth and they should have to hell. I think we need that. We're going to add that to the sound board. We didn't say it. Noah Tishby said it.

No, yeah, that's Noah. I love this. She's talking about... Kilani, who is a musician, is an artist, and performing at Cornell. Like, again, we, this is like a three-minute video she's putting out about Coachella and about, you know, yeah, about this festival and the mainstreaming of making cool of anti-Semitism, which is basically just a bunch of kids, the youth all have TikTok and have seen you gleefully doing genocide, you know, online for, 18 months. And you, Nootishby, justifying it all. So, fuck you. It's not the idea that it's

like, oh, it's cool now to hate Israel. It's like, no, it's just kids see things with their eyes, you dip shit. Yeah. And anyways, going after Killani for no reason in the middle of it other than to like, well, I got to use the space to do a little bit of Canary Missioning. for the October 7th Massacre and started her music video with a chant long-lived the Intifada. An Intifada is a violent attack against Jews. Let me know what.

I love it. She goes on to explain what an Intifada is and it's like an intifada is when for absolutely no reason Palestinians just start doing terror. It's just, it's, what it means. It's like Pagra. But in Arabic, which is...

Trust me. Don't Google it. Don't Google it. Do not Google it. Just trust me. Like, she's, obviously, she's trying to, like, speak to the youth, the youth. I guess. Who go to Coachella or whatever.

Nobody knows who the fuck she is. And nobody in their right mind would even, like, want to watch her. Like, what the hell? She and Sharon Osborne, like, if you asked a 19-year-old kid who's Sharon Osborne is they would be like what the fuck like who right I don't know kids do not know who this they don't know and they don't care and what they're seeing on their phones like you said Matt 18 months of live stream slaughter of children and and and and they they're just not buying this shit yeah they're not buying it that's it that's their only recourse yes yeah it's uh try to deport people

try to keep people from working try to get people fired from their jobs I mean just like these are all classic Zionist tactics and you know I love that at every opportunity there's going to be uh anyways we should fire this person anyways we need to you know revoke their visa take them out of the country I mean just using the you know mechanisms within our legal system in order to you know do fascism essentially and yeah no one fucking You think kids watch NCIS? Shut up. Let me be clear.

Supporting Hamas? Hold on just a second. Is she on NCIS? Yeah. Isn't that what she's famous for? I had no idea. That's a great freeze frame right there, by the way. That expression on her face.

She looks like she's doing a hard J. She's doing a hard J on Jews is what it looks like. Perfect. I'm thinking we need to redo, now that we've gotten Noah's definition of the Arabic, her translation, we need to redo Nora's introduction. our great guest this week on badass bar as the associate editor of the electronic violent attacks on Jews

Yeah Why do you want to work for a publication like that? Yeah, why would you do that? Why would you do that? As a Jew, I'm a self-hating one. You hate yourself. So dumb. So dumb. Should never be part of the culture.

Spreading Jew hatred should never be part of the culture. And if that's where culture is at right now, that I'm proud to be part of the counterculture. Oh, my God. Welcome, everybody. We are the counterculture.

Yes. Welcome everybody, just a empty fucking room. And I'm proud to be part of the counterculture. Welcome, everybody. Let's do a genocide. Yeah.

You know how the countercultures where truth lives yes and it's where arabs go to die and truth goes to live um yeah it's just like these these videos and tweets of people pleading just like talking about this i mean i had to play a little bit from uh the uh wonderful friend of the pod um eve fartlow who um also did a a long video talking about, you know, what have we become? What is this all leading in talking about Coachella? I think she really outdoes herself here, but then again, she really did set the bar low. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, she's kind of iconic in her narcissism. It's kind of amazing. I had to cut it down, but just let me say there's the first two minutes of her are just extolling her wonderful career and how important she was in the music and, film journalism space. And I'm never prepared for her Scottish accent. Yeah. It's wild.

Right. Yeah. All right. So here is the wonderful Barlow, Eve Fartlow, talking. I just want to say this about the Coachella situation and leaders, especially Jewish leaders in the music industry. I have been very publicly. blacklisted, very publicly chased on social media.

My hate name trended at number two worldwide. What's your hate name, Eve? What is it? What is it? Say it. Say it. Is it a sound? Do it.

The day I was canceled from my profession. Adam had a little YouTube joke that I think this is. Because she does look like Bono here. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what it is. One, two, three. It took me a second to get it, but that's good. I mean, and her politics with Bonos on this are kind of indistinguishable.

We're two worldwide on the day I was canceled from my profession after 15 years at the apex of music and film journalism as a very popular music and film journalist. Sorry, the apex of music and film journalism in what, the aughts when that industry was completely dying? I truly, I truly don't know what reality Eve Barlow lives in, but I do love the idea that she was like, I was at the height of a very illustrious career. And then I was canceled. And then I was canceled because I kept over and over saying that Palestinians aren't really human beings. Because I had a public meltdown because I saw a sign that said free parking. Yeah, free parking. And I thought it said free Palestine.

The Jews are tired. Tired. Tired. And here's the thing. The Jews just want to take a nap, y'all. I, I, in no way, you know, like condone any kind of, like, mass bullying campaign of anybody, right? So, like, when E. Fartlow started trending, it was just one of those things where she had, like, dug herself into this, like, weird hole of being, like, incredibly mean about Palestinians. while simultaneously being like

but I'm the victim here I've not thought about Eve Fartlow much until you know October 7th happened and then she kind of wedged her way back into prominence as the perennial victim of everything and you know

you can't help but revel in the glory that is her narcissism all about you It's all about Eve, exactly. The position of power to say absolutely not, I will not accept promotion of messages that endorse terrorism, that endorse what happened to over 350 innocent civilians at the Nova Music Festival in the south of Israel on October 7th. That is real massacred. And butchered by terrorists. Well, hold on. Pause there.

for a second. What is the latest reporting there, Nora, on Nova? Because we had a debate with my father a few weeks. Not a debate, a friendly conversation. You heard about, you know, some parity that I did related to that. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no. Well, I don't know. I'm, I don't have the numbers in front of me. But it is becoming more and more clear. And this is because of the reporting that Israeli media is doing. Yeah, they're the best. Yeah, they're they are they're on the scene that that many if not most of those, you know, partiers at at the gates of Auschwitz were killed by Israeli military helicopters. Wow. And and and other kinds of attacks. I mean, there's even like testimony by helicopter pilots themselves that were ordered to mow down every single car

you know who were driving away from the music from the music festival and and then you know there's this we just revealed a couple weeks ago you can watch i think it was last week's live stream a recent live stream on the electronic intifada where one of the main, you know, star, quote unquote, witnesses of, you know, this like mass rape hoax that apparently happened but actually didn't. At the Nova Festival is this guy Rami Davidian, who has been confirmed as a resolute liar and made up all of these stories that were then used in like Cheryl Sandberg's, documentary screams without evidence exactly exactly so even even the star witnesses you know who claimed to have saved these you know these these Israeli women from from rape or slaughter by

you know like evil you know Arab men who only wanted to rape and kill Jews because they're Jews the whole story is falling apart at the seams and of course the U.S. media won't report on it, but independent outlets like the electronic intifada and the gray zone and other places are. And yeah, so when people say, like, you know, Hamas slaughtered all of these Israelis at the festival, and then you see the cars of partygoers, they were all burned. And Hamas, you know, the fighters, burned and flattened. burned and flattened. The Hamas fighters had very small arms. They had like, you know,

rifles and a rocket propelled grenade. Nothing, nothing that could actually destroy cars, let alone hundreds of cars. Have you ever seen how much damage a Roman candle can do to a car's upholstery? That's right. Yeah. That's it. Right. Yeah. Do you know how much it costs to change that upholstery? That's right. It's a lot. And, you know, of course, Israel being true to itself. You have to call in Winston Wolf That's right He's very good at it

He's the wolf Listen Yeah You the IDF I'm Winston Wolf I solve problems Okay first thing we need to do Barry all the cars

Get some Apache helicopters here Yeah exactly Yeah it is I mean you know Like It's it's one of those things where you are No matter what's been debunked

no matter what Israeli media has uncovered about the truth of what's happening or what happened on October 7th. And this isn't truth in like fucking conspiratorial, you know, what happened on 9-11 truth. No, it's actual evidence of what happened. And none of it denies that there was a Hamas attack. What it does do is deny the amount of just unlawful. bullshit that came out in the wake of it, which included this idea of somehow Hamas was able to flatten entire rows of cars. And, you know, yeah. So it's just, and of course, the beheaded babies and the mass rapes and the this and that and the other. And yet, you know, these lies continue

to persist and they continue to be used as a cudgel against anyone who says, who goes to fucking Coachella and is like as an artist, as a musician, as someone who does music but also speaks out and has opinions, I believe, Israel is doing a genocide. Fuck them. Free Palestine. And then all of a sudden it's like, wow, you're supporting terror. All of a sudden, Eve Fartlow is like, I call on the Jewish run music industry, as she puts it. I mean, she literally is. Absolutely no. the beginning of this video again. I just want to say this about the Coachella situation and leaders, especially Jewish leaders in the music industry.

I mean, she spends most of the time calling them cowards. South of Israel on up over 7th, where they were ganged and butchurched by terrorists. Absolutely not. Because this is what's happened in six years.

You've gone from having a music journalists exiled from the industry to having Coachella one of the big... Oh my God. It was the tip of the spear. Meekap did the violence against her personally. First they came for Eve Barlow.

And I said, and I said nothing because I like the fart noises. Because I thought fartle was kind of funny. I wish I could do the accent. They gave me a hate name. They gave me a hate name, baby. Mainstream anti-Semitism. also mainstream terrorism in this very short space of time that's where it's gone do you want to see how

it's going to evolve further yes yeah kind of interested to see where it goes i i hope it includes uh yeah the hague uh i hope it includes all sorts of you know military tribunals uh you know let's let's see where it goes from here but uh we're going to continue on with uh some more uh cochella stuff But first, we need to take a little break. So everyone listen to these ads, and we'll be right back. And we're back as bad as Barra, World's Most Marvel podcast, here with Nora Barrow's Freedman. What's up? Hello.

How you doing? I want to continue on talking about, you know, some more of this Coachella stuff, just to just to cap it all off. There were, you know, the second weekend, there were a bunch of bands that were sings. It wasn't actually just kneecap, which is, I think, what really pissed off, you know, all of these Hasbaris was that, like, it was kneecap did it. Blonde redhead came out and they were holding up Palestinian flags or, you know, chanting free Palestine. There was this, again, I'm being introduced to people. I didn't even know. Bob Villan

is an artist who performed at Coachella and did this For those I assume British black guy Buff is buff as shit

very nice like dreads shirtless and just singing this fucking great like I don't know this band but now I want to listen to Bob villain

Sort of a cross between bad brains and death grips Yeah yeah exactly Martin Lufa It's so fucking cool It's so fucking cool And don't forget Why folks still killed him

Oh shit Yeah this is rad I just like look at that those are dreads and braids god damn just looking great sounding great i mean as someone who loves bad brains uh and kind of loves that era of uh of hardcore i'm like there's a new ban i don't even know about this so very cool the kids are doing great things the kids are doing great things like it there it is very cool to see It's very heartening to see that there's like, I don't know, this like undercurrent of, you know, kids who are just not going to put up with this bullshit who are not going to believe any of this, you know, Hasbara that they're being fed to by, you know, cast members of NCIS of their fucking grandmother's favorite show in the nursing home, you know. These kids want nothing to do with Noah Tishby's counterculture. They want to be firmly part of the mainstream trendy cool thing. Yeah, the train. Which is to stand up for human rights.

That's right. The trendy, cool thing has always been, you know, being for universal human rights. And that's why people are being deported because of it. But yeah. No risk involved whatsoever. None. None. Why would there be?

But there was, you know, and of course the big one that happened that kind of like, you know, I feel like was the beginning of all this was seeing Green Day. the headliner of one of the knights changing one of their lyrics to actually talk about Palestine and what people didn't notice that it was like that was just the tip of the iceberg Green Day did a few songs about Palestine

in fact all of their headliners talked about Palestine just I don't know why it hasn't been spread all over the internet but it's like They all said something, and I think it's just very important for us to play that so that people know how pro-Palestine they were at Coachella. So here is, this is a Green Day doing one of their songs.

Do you have the time to free, free Palestine? I do fully support October 7. Now, I've, saying you fully support October 7th, I was like, wow, that's a bit extreme for Green Day. But they did more. They didn't stop there. They had another song they did. 78 years have come and past. You know we all support Hamas.

Wake me up. When is real ends. Well, I mean, again. That's my favorite song. I mean, wake me up when September ends is about something completely different, but they still change the lyrics to it. Even Lady Gaga got in the mix with some pretty, I don't know, some pretty wild, radical stuff. Love yaiasin war See to the river

Gaza Jaramala Want to be Hamas Love yaas in war See to Truly A lot of I mean this is a lot She's come a long way

So it's crazy how now people are going from like free Palestine to just straight up Hamas People are just pro Hamas here Even post Malone got in the mix. One of the other headliners, more like Post-Watermelon, because the watermelon emoji, you get it. I got it when you said it out. That's a 3.5.

Okay, well, you know, we're doing our best here. Here is Post-Malone singing, you know, some pretty crazy stuff. Even if we got a tunnel underground, we are not scared of you for love. There will be no more Israel. I'm famous pop star post-malone. So, I mean, obviously, I do not support, I mean, I do not support radicalism. You know, I'm a pro-peace guy.

I support only peace. But, I mean, these are pretty good songs. And finally, Missy. Yeah. Yeah, our guest doesn't seem to have any objections to any of these lyrics. Yeah, well, she works for the electronic murder of Jews for no reason. Electronic murder juice for no weeks And finally

Missy Elliott She did it a little bit Like under the radar You know She put her thing down flipped in and reversed it And it was a secret message We must bring down

We must bring down the Zionist entity We must bring down the Zionist entity We must bring down the Zionist entity Now, listen, I did not know all of these artists were so pro-Hamas. I truly didn't. I truly did it. It's incredible. I'm glad that people are able to really freely express themselves finally.

I mean, that's the point of music, right? The point of music is so that you, as an individual, can let your own perspective shine, you know? And I think that for a long time in the music industry, people have not been comfortable being so pro Hamas. But now the floodgates are open, baby. Everyone out here loving Yakhya Sinwar, you know?

It's just crazy out there. It's crazy. I'm going to be real with you. If you listen to the very end of this episode on the audio version, probably not the YouTube version because, you know, that will get like a demonetized

or something. I did do a full version of Post Malone's Sunflower. Oh, my God. Because I was like, I'm having a lot of fun singing this one. So I'm just going to write a bunch of stupid-ass lyric. You can listen to that at the very end of this podcast. But yeah, I mean, in conclusion to the Coachella stuff, it is, I don't know, it is one of those, like, feel-good stories for me to see the reaction by the crowds at Coachella to when these artists would talk.

talk about Palestine because they're not getting it fucking anywhere else yeah well that's the thing yeah you know Tishby and Fartlow want to um I can't believe it's just that's just the word that comes that's just the name that now comes out of my mouth when I want to describe her because that's just her name at this point it's a love name it's a love name yeah um they want to talk about how it's trendy and cool and that's why kids are doing it no that's not why they're doing it they're doing it because it's sayable because it's permitted yes because it's there's space to say it yeah it's that it's actually a very natural space for young people to occupy um and for anyone of any age who cares about universal moral principles and might look at their own government i mean

askance and and and the priorities of american empire and all that it's where you just end up it's not so much about oh my god everyone around me is saying it and therefore i've got to say it it's more like oh great it's sayable now yeah and not only that but also like i think a lot of it comes from you know this idea you know that this is a classic like conservative line that we've talked about on this show before it's like you know what's really punk rock uh and then it's just like a bunch of the most horrible most racist things you've ever heard you know yeah um like that's the real punk rock because, you know, uh, you know, you're, you're afraid because you guys are pussies and you can't hear me say slurs and stuff. Um, and, you know, they can, they can make

that case all they want when it comes to like just saying the most racist shit in the world, right? They, they often do. This is like what they say. Oh, we're really punk rock because you're scared when I say word. Um, it's funny trying to apply that to Zionism. It's funny to try to apply that logic to Israel. She's like, we're the counterculture and it's like, no, you are the absolute pro-government stance. You are the propaganda stance. You are

the stance of every single mainstream television show, every single mainstream news outlet, every single like corporate anything. You are the stance. The pro-Israel, Israel's right to defend itself. If you say anything

about Palestine, you're fucking fired. You can't pretend that it's like Oh, you know, you're not allowed to be pro-Israel anymore. And it's like the only place where you're going to get shit is going to be online, a place where people can go and say shit. And sometimes that shit is awful. And sometimes that shit is shit that the mainstream media will not say because they are afraid of blowback from pieces of shit like you. From their own government.

The entire Western world is catering to you. Yes. And you're, like, demonic, genocidal rhetoric. Yes. And somehow you're still the victim. Yes. And you're mad at kids, again, for reflecting back onto you what they are seeing happening to other kids their age in Gaza.

Like, it's so twisted. Yeah. Yeah. You're not the counterculture. You're the body count culture. Yes. Except you don't want us to be counting the bodies. Yeah.

100%. You're the don't trust the body count culture. Yeah. And, you know, it's like I find myself, you know, sometimes, you know, doing this fucking podcast, getting a little bit, you know, down because of the fact that you will see such depravity, such like moral fucking rot. And, you know, sometimes it's, I mean, anytime I look at like Israeli society, I'm like, Jesus Christ, what, how do they, how do they fucking, you know, how do they all have this delusion together? It's just insane. but also you know when it comes to like zionist uh you know posters online and like you know all that it'll get me down and then you see outside life you see i rl you see like people together in in the same space human beings being with each other listening to music and all chanting

together uh you know free free Palestine you know and i just like i i can't help but like feel optimism for the future i mean you know at the very least i feel like the kids are all right you know what you can't spell without irl israel ireland oh okay iRL land i mean israel too but more yes yes uh that's the thing about israel it uh it ends in taking a big l you know what i mean Thank you. Put that on a t-shirt. Putting it on a t-shirt. More like Isra, L.

L. L. Because they take that L. So, beyond Coachella, to end this podcast, we need to talk a little bit about our boy, It's Mar Ben-Givir. Oh, God. Who was recently in Miami. And I got this. Another wonderful, another wonderful bumper from Adam, producer.

I'm in Miami trick. That's it. So apparently. Was that LMFAO? That sure was. Wow. That sure was. You haven't seen them in a while, huh?

I'm in Miami trick. Oh, it's fun. So, yeah, he was supposed to do an event at the Brooklyn Children's Museum that got canceled. Yeah. His schedule sort of Gavirid off course. Yes. His whole day, I'll just say, it was marred. It's marred.

Fuck, don't, don't rate it, Adam. Don't rate it. Don't you fucking dare. Mard? Oh, Mard. It a marred? It a marred. It a marred, yeah.

It a marred. Nice. Fucking, hey, that's like a, maybe a two. That one went right over me. I didn't even. hear that one so that yeah well it's okay with the with the eight of ten he gave me and the two out of ten he gave you we we added up to ten we're a great podcast um but yeah so uh this event did end up being canceled uh because uh it turns out uh you know ben gavir um incredibly hated

one of those people who's he's not just hated he's he's reviled obviously by you know uh anyone with a heart or a brain who knows about him. But also, Israelis also will yell at him. And a friend of the show, Ido, The Reliable, he shared with me a video of a woman who is yelling at Ben-Givir and yelled, she shouted, racist, racist, you don't care about the hostages, you don't care about the children in Gaza. And I just want to show him getting yelled.

I love that he can't go anywhere without getting yelled at. It makes me feel good. And he's waving it off like, no, no, no autographs, please. Yeah, no, no, no, please, please. I told TMZ, I'm with my family. I'm married, ma'am. Yes, yes. People keep throwing their underwear at me.

sex symbol Itmar Ben-Gvier But yeah Anyways, just wanted to I just wanted to shout out people who are yelling at him in the street It's kind of nice, you know? Maybe he may he be hounded and haunted

the rest of his life. Yes, yes. You know, but it's, may he be hounded and haunted, yes. It's plausible to imagine him being, you know, what's the word? ostracized because he's such a freak but who I really want to see ostracize is someone like Smotrich

the more respectable seeming ones the more buttoned down ones who are in some ways are even more extreme yes absolutely and and there's a fair I think there's probably some racism in that too because Smotrich is sort of a more European Ashkenazi white presenting guy and Ben Giver has got just kind of um i don't know local color to him you might say yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah i mean

it is like you know uh yeah it's all rotten smote rich i think is uh particularly more disgusting also because uh you just see him um quietly doing the uh you know doing the annexing of the west bank and making life there more and more unlivable while you know a genocide is going on in Gaza, and he's like, well, under the cover of all this blood and, you know, bombs and dust and smoke, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to do no other land in every single, you know, village and city in the West Bank. I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's like, establishing new settlements. Mm-hmm. Meanwhile, you got, meanwhile, you got Ben Yvier going around. He's like sort of the, I don't know, jolly mafia. Yes. You know, God,

father's nephew walking around making sure that all of his people in his neighborhood have guns and shit. Yeah, he's got his titsies and his fucking gun. Handing out calzones. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no. He can't get his gun out because it's wrapped on one of his titsy.

It's just the trigger goes off. That'd be very funny. He is like a soprano's character. He is. He truly is. He's like, yeah, he's like medium pussy. Yeah. He looks like big pussy when he was transformed into a fish during Tony's fever dream. Anyways.

Fishy pussy? No. Yeah, fishy pussy. Anyways, $12 a pound. Yeah. So, I mean, just knowing that these scumbags are, you know, walking around the United States, it's just, I am glad to know that he, at the very least, wasn't allowed to go into a children's music. him in Brooklyn. Yeah, good.

Now he has to go to fucking, you know, Miami, which... To, like, hang out with Yair? I assume he's going to hang out with Yair Netanyahu, and they're going to do some, you know, pepe, racist pepe memes on the internet about George Soros. You know, just, they're just going to go do some 4chan anti-Semitism together because that is the kind of leadership we need in the Knesset. And then in the next step,

episode, of course, Yeah, I'm Maltesanti will get into trouble with his dad, you know, for... I told you not to fucking hang out with that guy. He's bad news. I love Yajir and Maltesanti. Oh, that's great.

I want to take acting classes. I want to be a screenwriter. I want to post the racist memes on the internet, Dad. He just can't figure it out. I hope he's like AJ and he tries to drown himself in a pool. I want to go to course. Mocella. Yeah. So, yeah. So that is, that's our podcast. I think, I think we're all good and done. Anything else? Something, you know, something else anyone wants to talk about? Any last words? Nope. I've never done that before. Vote hard, Canada. Yeah. And he likes. Vote hard. Boat, boat hard and then vote harder. Yes. Vote hard. Vote harder. We hope for a victory for, I don't know, whatever party is the least bad.

in Canada. The new Democratic Party that we've been. Yeah, the new Democratic Party. Same as the old Democrat. I mean, they haven't been, they haven't been, they haven't been consistently great on Israel, but they have some individuals who have been, and they've gotten better in some ways.

I love that that's the best. And Avi Lewis, Naomi Klein's husband, is running for them. Oh, okay. Well, then I feel a little bit better. Yeah. If there's someone in the Klein family, then fine I can I can handle that um but yeah this is uh so bleak it's everything's bleak

everything sucks uh but at least the kids are out there at Coachella uh saying free free Palestine and and uh hopefully taking some molly and having a good time there you go and yeah you should watch kneecap it's fantastic I'm going to I had no idea that it was a movie and I'm going to check it out and I'm going to start listening to their music uh so shout out to kneecap a good old chucky garla to them uh which i mean it's spelled like chuck i can't even spell it you know it's with a tea i mean it's a weird ass language but uh it is a cool one uh and nora thank you so much for coming on bad as bar again oh my god it's always my pleasure love having you on uh where can people find you electronic intifada dot net on twitter at intifada dot net on twitter at

It's not infittata or infratata. That's right. I said intata. And I'm at Nora B.F, as in best friend. Oh, Nora, this show's best friend. Thank you. Fourth-time guests. Do you have kids, Nora?

I do. Oh, yeah. So if one of them gets married, make sure that they marry someone with who's last name starts with F. So it'll be BFF.F. BFF. BFF. I've wondered this about hyphenated names.

Like what happens when a hyphenate marries a hyphenate? Oh, they get a job at NPR, I believe. That's right. Perfect. That's what happens. 10 out of 10. That is a 10.

That's an A plus joke. Love to end with something nice. Thank you. And thank you all for joining us. Email us, questions, comments, concerns, bad as bar at gmail.com. Join our Patreon. on patreon.com slash bad hasbarah.

All right, everyone. Thanks again so much for listening. And until next time, from the river to sea. Let's all have a jolly mush to the cap of the knee. Hmm. I love it. Jumping jacks was us. Push-ups was us.

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was us. Keith led your Joker us. Endless bread success. Happy meals was us. McDonald's was us. Being happy us. Bequam yoga us. Eating food, us. Breathing air, us. Drinking water us. We invented all that shit. DJ Farlow Oh, ooh, Ooh, ooh, ooh, Ooh, Far low

Oh, ooh ooh, O Palestine all there River to Seine. Call it quits now, Zionist entity. Gonna free it all, babe, only one state.

Nearly to say, Palestine all day. Gonna free them from river to say. Colloquines now, Zionist day today. Gonna free it all now, baby, one stand. The West is in a bad way, losing your grave. Killing civilians, women, children. Notice a big island of that stage. Looking at your sideways, watching you dip.

You're kids Gonna leave and take the truth You know you're gonna lose Then you left in the dustbin Swapped up by us Better run coward Because I'm gonna join the boss Then you left in the dustbin

Swapped up by us Better run coward Better run coward Every time I read in the news You don't make it easy, no Whole world's grieving for you It's red and it's leaving you Wanna visit guys and I will let Israel just tear it down

I'm joining from my son I won't back down Even if we got a tunnel underground We are not scared if you're far low There will be no more Israel supposed to belong Zionism needs a gun and you'll be left in the dustbin getting swept by us

better run cowards cause I'm gonna join her boss You'll be left in the dustbin getting swept by us Better run cowards Better run cowards I don't know.