Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 11: Yassocide, with Michael Schirtzer and Yedoye Travis

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Matt is joined by fellow pro-Palestine stand up comedians Yedoye Travis  (“That’s Deep”  on Complex) and Michael Schirtzer (Palestine Pod)., talking about the state of cowardice in the industry and the Grammys.Buy tickets to see Matt Lieb and Francesca Fiorentini headline the Punch Line in Sacramento on Sunday, March 17th at 7pm. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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All of garden us White foster us Zabra Hamas Asbaras Us Hello and welcome to Bad Hasbara, the world's most moral podcast. I am your host, Matt Lieb. How are you all doing out there?

Thank you once again for listening to this podcast or watching it. If you're watching it on fucking YouTube, I'm cool. I'm glad you are. I get demonetized every time. But, you know, that's fine because I don't do it for the money. I do it for the love of the game. that game being my wife getting mad that i'm podcasting too much but whatever thank you uh and if you're like one of the people who was out there watching the show and you're you know you want to

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please come come out ticket link will be in bio uh finally uh there is this page that i was made aware of from someone who follows me on twitter a couple of people are cataloging uh all of the war crimes that israel is doing like bit by bit they're creating like a dock that grows by the day uh you can find all of these at uh crimes by israel They also have an official Twitter page. Check it out. It's kind of nice to have it all in list form in case you're just like, I wonder what crimes they did. It's nice. I mean, it's depressing. It's not fun, but it's something to read and maybe share with your family in case they had any questions about what's going on in Israel. Okay, guys, it's time to start the show, and I have two great guests. This is all. comedians today. Today, we're just doing stand-up comics. Two wonderful guests from both sides of the country. We have from the Palestine pod, Michael Scherzer, and from New York, we have a guy who's got a show called That's Deep on Complex and a podcast called Jaded Forum, Yadoye, Travis. Let me

introduce all of y'all right now. One second. Boom. Yo. What's up, guys? I thought you were about to say from both sides of the political spectrum. No, no, no, no. Yoia, you're supposed to be my Zionist. No, no, no, no. I need you to be pro-Israel.

We have to show all sides. No, I can't. I don't know how to, I can't. It's so easy, dude. It's like the easiest job. You just go, uh, no, uh, every time someone says Israel did something bad. You just ignore facts and, and, and, and, you just ignore facts and, and, you just, and, you just know, And, et cetera.

Yeah. And profit. And profit. Profit comes from it very easily. What's up, Michael? What's up? It does take a lot less thinking to be on. God.

It does, man. I had somebody, I had another comic asked me about black Israelites in the context of this, of this genocide a few days ago. What were they asking? Are they complicit or what is? I don't know what is quite. I think his, his question was just, who are they? Right.

And we get the intro first. Where are they in the mix of the whole genocide thing? Yeah, actually, I haven't heard much from them in a while. I feel like they've been kind of drowned out by Zionist voices. Like, they're watching what Zionists are saying. They're like, holy shit. Maybe just let them. Let's wait it out.

Let's wait it out. Let's hold the, let them hold the mic for a little bit because they're seeing some crazy shit. Yeah. They're also mostly, like, in-person performers, right? They don't really have a social media presence, so you don't, like, hear a ton. I've really seen a lot of them, like, third-hand, just people walking by Barclay Center. That's kind of where they are, you know? Yeah.

And it's like a throwback to the old school of comedy where it's like, I don't need social media, and I kind of like that. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if they're, like, pissed off that, like, now you have to make clips in order to be a black group. they're all starting to sound like Sebastian yeah yeah man no I understand these kids anymore

yeah they gotta get a captions app they gotta fucking start doing social it's it's you don't know you're one of the original people aren't you embarrassed are you not embarrassed aren't you embarrassed yeah

so you guys are both comics and you are both people who actually say out loud things about Israel, which I don't know about y'all, but I find that to be a rarity in this industry. There's a handful of people that I've seen who have, like, full-throated, like, said the word Zionist out loud. For the most part, I see a lot of, like, donation link in bio for most comics that I know, like to Gaza.

And that's kind of the most. you'll get um what what what is what's it like in new york because i feel like la is fucking has lost its goddamn mind like the comedy scene out here has seemed to either be silent or they're just being drowned out by the like biggest psychos you can imagine um i mean it feels like new york is a little bit more on the side of um comics being very quiet and granted i say this um comics in my personal circle that I keep around me have all been pretty vocal about it um people like i mean ohana del shaki uh zubi ahmed uh i could just like they're all just they're all just brown comics you know ethere ya kut yeah they're all just brown comics who like have a dog in the fight

you know right yeah like outside of that everybody else is like even face to face shout out kate boyle she's been posting about palestine and like has held it down for many years even before october 7th yes she absolutely has um yeah it just it feels like uh the broad um the broad uh message from new york comics is like is kind of it's like even face-to-face people people don't feel comfortable yeah saying what's going on you know um like and it's very weird like I'll I I I I have spoken up publicly enough that comics have come and like confronted me for for with various levels of you know animosity I've called anti-Semitic and then I've been called then I've had people just come and be like hey man why don't you just let's talk about it face to face we don't have to talk about each other on the internet it's like it's like okay man but like Like, the funniest thing I've noticed is like you'll talk to a Zionist or Zionist apologist comedian and 100% of the time, I leave the conversation feeling like, well, we got

nowhere. Right. And then I'll talk to somebody else about this conversation and they'll be like, yeah, so-and-so said y'all had a great talk. Well, that's only because their assumption is that while you're talking, you're going to do an anti-Semitic crime against them. Like, they're coming in thinking, like, anyone who says anything pro-Palestinian

must be a little bit insane. And then as soon as you are not insane, they're like, oh, shit, okay, that was a great talk. We learned nothing. But it's like they're having these conversations to confirm that you're not the hateful person they assume you are. And you're having this conversation to be like,

hey, could you stop endorsing a genocide, please? A genocide that's actively happening in front of your face? could you just like stop please yeah that'd be nice and they're also trying to silence you right they're trying to like get close to you and be like hey this is why you shouldn't be posting this actually they're trying to gaslight you into thinking you're not seeing a live stream jemines yes yeah but that's what sign is do right like they steal your energy right over there they steal land right they steal people's lives but over here they try and steal your energy yeah they're occupying my fucking like just my emotional energy that's what they're doing they're living

free everywhere because they're squatters everywhere they go right yeah i feel like every couple weeks i have to like bust out a new book to read because i gaslight myself into thinking i don't know what i'm talking about yes yeah because i've had so many people be like are you sure about are you sure about the thing that you just said with so much confidence are you sure about that yeah Are you sure about the thing that you're sure about? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's weird the level of gaslighting of yourself that you can do because, like, I've gone through the same thing, too, where I will be questioning myself, like, wait, am I sure that that that that, that some of those kids didn't deserve to die?

And then I'll be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't do that. Yeah, you know what I mean? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't like that. thank you that that's like the level of insanity that it comes to where you're just like i'm definitely not wrong about this right and then you need to like then you need to recenter yourself and just be like yeah i'm i'm for sure on the right side of history here but it is weird how easy the gaslighting can happen i always find it's better to listen in the case of like human rights and human suffering to civil rights heroes you know so i feel pretty

comfortable being on the side of Dr. Angela Davis, Malcolm X, Kwame Teray, et cetera. Yeah. You know, but they want to, they want to argue with Nelson Mandela about apartheid and I enjoy that for them. Yeah, yeah, have fun. Yeah, yeah, interesting take. I respect it, but I don't respect it. Yeah, hey, white guy, tell Nelson Mandela he doesn't know about apartheid.

I think the craziest thing about it, too, is the people who are doing it are not necessarily the people you would have expected to do it at any other time. Like, it's the liberal Zionists is the ones who always, like, blow my fucking mind because at every other issue that they have ever virtue signaled about, they have sort of made it clear, at least to me at some point, I would be like, well, yeah, that person is not like a scumbag who would, like, talk down to people who actually lived in apartheid. and you know know what they're talking about but then uh i don't know man last uh four months

i feel like how many uh how many people do you know personally who have done a complete fascist pivot michael who i mean it's a lot right it does feel as though i'm completely surrounded by fascists but you know there are also people who are going the other way right there are people who are like yeah no I just didn't know much about it and then I like read one thing and it was so obvious to me that like Palestine is in the right that they have a right to defend themselves that they're being occupied and yeah that this is a genocide that's happening you know so it's like for all the fascists that are you know accumulating there are also people who are interested in liberation right yeah i have um i think as i've gotten older i've

really had to reassess my my understanding of the word liberal you know what i mean because like at this point in my life i had no expectation that liberal Zionists had would would come out on the right side of this at least not like whole cloth if that makes sense what even is a liberal Zion what is it like biodegradable bullets what are we talking about about you know what is that even what does that even mean it's a climate conscious occupation you know it means like i believe in israel's right to do what it's doing but i wish it would do it nicer yeah and that that is always like for me like i've seen people like that and i've been like well they must have a limit right are those the folks that are blocking aid trucks into gaza right now

is that them are those the liberal zionists or which ones you know actually it's a coalition They, the left and the right in Israel have gotten together and they've decided to bipartisanly block aid into. That's great. They can decide on anything except a government, huh? Pretty good. Right. Or a constitution. Love that.

But yeah, man, it's, it's been interesting comedy because of the people that I've known personally. Like, you know, I've talked about this before, but like, I had people calling me who I know personally who, like, know my, you know, my baby daughter and were like, you should. be saying anything about this because your baby daughter is Jewish and Hamas would kill your daughter and yeah they always want to like try and like they like to project their own weird fantasies onto Hamas they like to outsource their uh war crimes too like weird proxy threat yeah right yeah it's not me doing it i would never because i'm good i just supported genocide but these fucking people yeah it's it's it is interesting i've had a lot of friends uh or former friends reach out to me especially on October 8th when I was I think I was one of

these people that was like okay here's the broader historical context that people are not thinking about right now and they're jumping straight to calling this 9-11 the Israel's 9-11 or whatever right yeah so here was Israel's 9-11 because it was an inside job you know what I mean I had somebody I went to college with literally say now is a weird time to add context don't you think no that's hilarious I don't think that's ever weird so emblematic of like Zionist thinking where it's like no focus on me let me just have my blind rage for a second yeah and every this has happened in multiple times now and every single time it's like they kind of spew the

the Zionist the Hasbara version of how they were raised Zionists just all the they rattled off all the different empires that ruled over that land as though that is in any way determinate of who is living in the land

right and then you confront them with that fact and then you confront them with you know the Balfour Declaration the fact that Israel was not created in response to the Holocaust and in fact the Zionist

movement collaborated with Nazis to extract a limited population of of Jews who were able-bodied enough to help build the state of Israel and you can confront them with all of these facts and then they just go silent Yeah And on top of that they turned back

refugees from the Holocaust because they were not fit enough to serve in their war crimes army So they sent them back on a death March. Yeah. And they also continue to treat survivors in Israel like dog shit. Yes, one third live in poverty and they rely

on volunteers who do mutual aid to bring them food. Which is a crazy thing to think about just based on the amount of mileage that they've gotten from exploiting their traumatic stories that they're not at least going to like, I don't

know, give them revenue every time you mention Holocaust, right? You think it'd be easier yeah sorry my bad i just think it should be easier to buy onions than rockets right yeah yeah yeah you'd think so you would think i don't know yeah but uh yeah so your experiences in in in comedy the reason you know that i'm asking about is because i'm like at this point i feel like i can count on you know one hand like people who uh are not neither Jewish nor Arab who are openly talking about Zionism and whatnot. And that's one of the reasons, uh, Yadoya, when I started seeing your post, I was like,

fucking thank you because it is, uh, I feel like the amount of people who are silent in comedy because they feel like, well, number one, they're, they're like, I want to have a job. But number two, they're like, um, they feel like they don't have a dog in this fight or whatnot. Like, what is, what has been your experience with anyone else? Do you have friends who are neither Jewish nor Arab who are comics? Like, I want to know who's out there. Like, I want to know that we're not that alone, you know what I'm saying? I mean, everybody I know who is a vocal that is not Jewish or Arab. Most of them are outside of comedy. I don't know what it is about comedians where they are such, where they have such

cowards. Like, yeah. I mean, they just have this insane tunnel vision. You know, it's like for the, for people who are supposed to be modern day philosophers or whatever bullshit title you try to assign to comedians, they have some of the limited, the most limited perspective I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, because to me, I think about it and it feels it feels very clear to me that this has direct impact on my life. And I think people, um, people take that realization to maybe to say like, oh, well, you're only doing it because it affects you directly. I'm just like, well, yeah, that's why people should do things. I think, like, I don't, like, I think we have to reassess our relationship with this term like with this term selfishness or right or self-centered or

whatever because like that's where the idea of mutual aid even comes from is that is that if I help you in like a community in a communal institutional sense it also bears fruit back on me you know what I mean right it's not I'm not just doing this because um because I'm such a charitable person I don't have this altruistic mindset I'm not I'm not doing this self-sacrificial bullshit that people try to force on you to like to kind of moralize your care for other people. It has an effect on my life. And I think I think if if Zionists thought about it that way and realized that dehumanizing other people also has a dehumanizing effect on yourself, you know, if you read somebody like Paulo Freire, who says that explicitly or any other radical or even not even not even that radical thinker. I think they would realize what they are doing to themselves

and how this whole Zionist movement is in itself more anti-Semitic than than anything I've seen on the ground here or there anywhere, you know? Yeah, 100%. It's so wild that comedians are like, we are the last line of defense for the freedom of speech. Also, shut the fuck up about Palestine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, I just want to say the N-word. man i just that's all i yeah yeah they moved to us i just had a specific thing i wanted to do yeah i just didn't want to say exactly what it was but i'm just trying to say that word yeah i didn't know i was going to have to stand up for shit in the real world i'm just trying to bring the r word back you know like well i didn't know that like it could affect my career in this way but yeah it is it is interesting seeing it too because uh there's like a level of cowardice that seems to be kind of like everywhere. The Grammys recently

happened and I wanted to talk about that today because I have mixed feelings about everything. So the Gramies happened yesterday and this was another award show now that we've had. I think this is the second like big

award show in which basically no one said anything about what was happening in Gaza and the closest we got was Annie Lennox Ari which I have a

It's Ari Lennox It was Annie Lennox There was Annie Lennox there's also Really? Yeah Oh it was Annie Lennox I thought it was Ari Lennox My bad Wait who's Ari Lennox

Ari Lennox is an R&B singer Oh okay I just read it I just read something I thought it was my bad Nah Hey I mean listen we should also ask Ari I didn't even know there was our Was she nominated?

I would love to know what she thinks She's been nominated I don't know if she was nominated this year I don't think she had a record come out Well so far We have one Lennox, who's cool, and said this, which I have a clip of. This was the grand speech that was given last night. Peace for peace in the world.

Cool. So, listen, I'm not going to say bad. I'm glad someone said something. But, you know, this issue I have. I've got to unsend some messages to Ari Lennox right now. But yeah, like, you know, I'm always happy when someone says something. I think it is a big deal to say anything. The issue that I've been having is I've been watching kind of like just, I read this article in a new Arab that said something along the lines of, this is what we call like bread, breadcrumb solidarity, where you just have to kind of piece together whether or not someone is.

pro-Palestinian based on like just little bits little tiny hints like Taylor Swift going to Rami's like stand-up show that was a benefit for Gaza you know and then like saying ceasefire peace in the world it's like I of course agree with those sentiments but you know she doesn't say Gaza it's kind of I would say fairly milk toast if it were any other situation if there were any other situation. But that did not stop Noah Tishby from doing this. She was also at the Grammys for some fucking reason. And this is what she had to say about the grand speech.

So tonight, the Grammys were hijacked in favor of Hamas agenda as singer Annie Lennox called for. I'm sorry, but just real quick. She can say hijacked, but she can't say Hamas without putting the ha in it? She did. She kind of said hijacked. You didn't hear it? Let me hear it. In favor of Hamas agenda as singer any

Lennox were hijacked in favor of Hamas agenda. The Grammys were hijacked in favor of Hamas A small bit. Maybe I'm just like traumatized and I only hurt like I just You're traumatized with any Israeli who says the H sound now. Yeah

yeah. Agenda as singer Annie Lennox called for a ceasefire denying Israel's right to defend itself and also not calling for the release of the hostages. So basically, give them a Hamas exactly what they wanted. You know, I think that next time a singer wants to do something that's good for humanity, you should probably call on the release of innocent women and a baby and a toddler from the hands of a genocidal terrorist organization. I think that's probably a good idea. Innocent women and a baby and a toddler, is that who's left alive?

Yeah, those are the ones that they haven't killed through their massive bombing. Right. And if they try and surrender with white flags, yeah, talking Hebrew, they will be gunned down and murdered by their own army. Well, I mean, to be fair to the IDF, they thought that they were Palestinian civilians. They were speaking Hebrew. Listen, they thought they had learned Hebrew in order to entrap them. Because I know they had their shirts off so that they were showing.

They weren't having any weapons and they had their hands up to show. There was nothing in their hands. But, you know, Hamas, they're implanting. time bombs inside the stomachs of their own people and then teaching them Hebrew. So, you never fucking know, dog. She was like, that's exactly what Hamas wanted. And don't you know, Hamas is always so plugged into the Grammys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They've got nothing else going on. She got a long forehead, by the way. She got a really long. She's got a five-in-for-shed-shed-to-settle-on. Yeah. I'm about to build a checkpoint in the middle and stop any traffic going away. Little Gaza strip of hair Yeah, no

Watching that video For me, I was like This is an insane thing Because I don't even know Who this Hasbara is for anymore Because that You watch that And like Husbar used to be for like

Normies, you know It was like a regular Non-Informed American audience Who would just be like, you know Oh yeah, Israel, you know Israel good She's like yelling about someone hijacking the Grammys

because they said the words ceasefire and is expecting non-psychopaths to go along with her. Also, she's on stage. She's on stage, right? Yeah. Today's flight was hijacked by the pilot and taken to its normal destination.

We got off safely in Miami. Yeah, that's the Zionist version of hijacking. Did she even say ceasefire, by the way? She didn't say that. that, right? She did, she does at the beginning. It's, it's happened so fast that the clip doesn't fully have it. Cease fire. Artists for ceasefire. Uh, okay. Peace in the world. Whole world. Again, credit where credit is due. Annie Lennox, you said ceasefire, you get credit for it. But just the, the peace in the world part, I'm just like, just say fucking Gaza. Why can't, why is it so impossible to say

where a ceasefire should happen. It's like when people say people of color when they mean black. Just just say it, man. Just say the thing that you mean. Be specific. You know? Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean, it's a, it's a great way to like mush everyone

together and, you know, just kind of like, you know, peace, wherever there happens to be a war going on. Who knows where? I don't know. I'm just singing songs out loud. you know what what bothers me about all this is that the whole the whole like um the the fear and the repression over just using the words ceasefire makes it seem like that is the end goal of

this whole operation you know like that's the like that's the uh the final destination when there's still an occupation that needs to be ended there's still all of these other uh notions that Israel as an idea perpetuates that people don't talk about, this idea of like this idea of nation states, this idea of Judaism as a race and not a religion, which necessarily isolates Jews of other races who are treated all types of different ways in Israel. You know, it's just like I've been doing this joke for a while about how like, I think the government can just kill you based on some bullshit belief that you have

and act like that belief is worth achieving because you were assassinated over it. It's like if Malcolm X was killed a few years earlier when he still believed white people were made in a lab by scientists, like we would live in a different America. You know what I mean? Like it would be a completely different world. It's like people act like things are important just because, not that ceasefire is, not important, but people act like things are important necessarily because the government doesn't want you to do them. Right. Yeah. Yeah. There's a bunch of shit the government wants

doesn't want you to do that has no bearing on your actual life. Yeah. In fairness, Pete Buttigieg is actually short for Petri dish because he was grown in a lab. Yeah, that's true. Oh yeah. He is no. Yeah. No, no, no. Some white people absolutely were grown in a lab. But just the race as a whole, nah, nah. Some of y'all grew out of trees or some shit. I know. That's what my parents told me. I'm personal family friends with, what is his name, Dr. Yacob? Is that the-Yacouf? Yacoub who created the white people in the lab?

Great scientists, brilliant, brilliant thinker. You know, sometimes you make a mistake. I love the idea that white people were like the lab leak theory. We accidentally got out and they're like, oh, fuck, they're everywhere now. No, they've colonized. Yeah, no, I agree completely, you know, the ceasefire is like the first thing on the agenda for multiple reasons and, you know, all of them good reasons. But the fact that they, you know, that Noah Tishby makes a video specifically being like, you know, today the Grammys were 9-11 because the Eurythmics lady, you know, said ceasefire is like, it makes it seems. like that and that alone will be the end of everything like everyone's going to be like oh they

stopped doing a genocide guess we can all go home and uh you know they haven't even of course begun to address anything else anything else is just like painted as anti-semitic i mean so is a ceasefire um you make a good point though about like who is it for right their audience is becoming increasingly small right like they're they're making content for fewer and fewer followers every day. Yes. And yeah, it's just, it shows like their desperation to cling on to power to cling on to a narrative that's clearly dying. Yeah, it's, it's weird because I mean, I can't imagine any normal person watching that, uh, you know, Noah Tishby video and then seeing Annie Lennox say a milk toast ass statement, uh, much appreciated, uh, milk toast ass statement. And then being like,

post is good. Yeah. Yeah. I like French toast. All kinds of toasters. good some toast is more milky than others this was a milky one and you know what i appreciate it uh but the fact that like like did noa think anyone who's normal is gonna agree with this or she just looked like a fucking psychopath to the rest of the world and then that you know begs the question why are these hasbarus like now very comfortable being like yeah i'm psycho what of it like that is the weirdest fucking thing Yeah. My question here is also, how the fuck did she get to the Grammys? What is she doing? Who invited her? I know.

What are these people? And like, that, that brings me to a point that I don't think is that controversial, but that there are people absolutely trying to clout chase and, like, rebuild their dying careers over this shit. Like, who the fuck was thinking about Michael Rapaport before October 7th? was thinking about Brett Gelman in any other way aside from he's just the ugly ratty guy from every stranger things yeah like who is thinking about these fucking people who cared about what Chelsea Handler was going to do next yeah who gave a fuck yeah I had to like look up who the fuck Noah Tishby was and I was like oh she was on CSI all right was she I didn't know that yeah that's what she's from if you're wondering who's this fucking lady who keeps going out and saying like genocide good it's

She's a CSI lady. Had no clue. That's her shit. Could have never known. It's fucking. I was closely following the career of Amy Schumer. I don't know what you guys are talking about. Yeah.

Yeah. Amy Schumer was one of those people who like came out early, early and just was like, hey, don't forget, I'm the biggest psycho out here. She said all gossens are rapists. Yeah. She posted something that had that. Yeah. All gossens are rapists.

And then she did the classic thing that was happening. like October, November, which was yelling at black people for like the fact that, well, you know, they posted a black square and they're just like, and now you can't even look the other way while I genocide an entire group of children. So you can't, you can't side with me when I posted a black square and blocked out all the actual information that was supposed to be going out during that period. Oh, no. Oh, no.

how is our transactional relationship going to flourish from this point? Yeah, yeah, man. I mean, like... It's been so funny to watch Zionists realize that black people don't like oppression. Yeah. It's true. It's really amazing. You know, it's what on that point, it's one amazing to me that, like, that people are

realizing that we have a sense of, like, nuance and an ability to discern what is and isn't actually oppression. And too, it's been amazing. And this goes beyond just now. But it's the same thing people are doing with like, with like Hamas and the Houthis and all of these groups that are that are making choices about what they stand for. You know, I'm not. Yeah.

Like they always, they love to assign some other identity to like why, to like who is actually back. Like this comic that I spoke to the other day went up on a show right before me. and his whole half a set is about how like it was all white women at these protests it's all white women at black lives matter protests it's all white women at uh at the pro palestine protests as though we can't just make the choice and the discern for ourselves that uh that these things are bad yeah and as though it's something is necessarily not worth uh fighting for just because white women don't like it or do like it right or just like i've seen a lot of kind of like classic liberal race essentialist politics where they're just they feel very much like you um you know uh there you being a black person have nothing to do with this situation and uh you know therefore for you to come out and talk you know be pro Palestine is uh you know is it must come from some deep seated anti-semitism without realizing that like I think anyone

can look at an apartheid state and be like apartheid bad I think especially people who are non-white are going to look at this and go like yeah for sure this is bad this is I've seen this before you know also the police in the United States train in occupied Palestine they do so-called counterterrorism

drills deadly police chiefs deputies they're all flown over at the expense of the ADL who runs the program. So, yeah, it's affecting everybody because it's our money as well going over there. Right, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, like, that's for me, the ultimate Trump card for anyone who's just like, oh, what do you even have to do with it? It's just like, just remind them that you're an American and that your tax dollars fucking go to killing children.

I think that is a perfectly reasonable thing to tie you into the situation, if not on a race essentialist basis. They'll be like, do you want to work in show business? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that is always the interesting one is how many people threaten your work.

I will say the tax dollars thing has been an interesting point of departure for me. Only because my view is like, we should be opposed to this whether or not we're the ones paying. paying for it and also at the federal level our taxes are not paying they don't need our tax money they these are political choices that they make regardless of whether or not we endorse them you know um fucking what's there Stephanie Kelton Bernie Sanders economic advisor has a book on this on modern monetary theory and the fact that the government literally prints money they don't they don't when you send your tax money back to them they burn it they erase it from the record that's all that happens they don't they don't you they don't need you to fund them all tax all taxes

do is provision the government and create demand for the currency so like i think when people say that uh it's just isn't it's this notion of uh of guilt that bothers me um they're like i don't think we should be operating from a place of like uh of personal guilt we should be operating from a place of fuck this this is inhumane and disgusting I think that are I fully agree with what you're saying and thank you so much for making that point I think that argument is like not for the people who have empathy right yeah it's for the people who we've run through all of the tape

you know what I mean yeah I don't think the genocide I see it I see the bodies pile in 30,000 dead people who are under the I see all that I'm still not convinced yeah yeah Yeah, babies, babies. And you're fucking paying for it. You're paying for it. You're fine. My money.

Don't you dislike potholes? You know what I mean? That's mine. Yeah. And then my truck does get fucked up. And it's like, okay, great. We're just trying to cast a wide net here. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Your alignment is off and therefore. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to be a curious about why. With us. Yeah, it is, it is absolutely for people who, no matter how many dead babies they see,

they're like, yeah, but they're not really human to me. But then you bring up taxes and they're like, okay, okay, well, that's minds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you make a fantastic point. We should be operating from a place of decency as opposed to guilt or coercion. Yes. Yeah, no, that would be preferred. But, you know, the other interesting part about the whole Grammys thing to me was, you know, Noah Tishby being like, oh, they hijacked the Grammys.

So I don't know if you guys watched the Grammys at all. But, yeah, but the Grammys were not hijacked by pro-Palestinian voices. But this did happen at the Grammys when the speaker, the speaking at the Grammys was the CEO of the Recording Academy, Harvey Mason Jr., who gave a little speech at what point during the Grammys. of music. Every one of us, no matter where we're from, is united by the shared experience of music. It brings us together like nothing else can. And that's why music must always be our safe space.

When that's violated, it strikes at the very core of who we are. We felt that at the Badaclan Concert Hall in Paris. We felt that at the Manchester Arena in England. in England. We felt that at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas. And on October 7th, we felt that again when we heard the tragic news from the Supernova Music Festival for Love that over 360 music fans lost their lives. And another 40 were kidnapped.

That day and all the tragic days that have followed. I mean, it continues going, but it just the fucking, the fucking nerve, to just be like to yell about someone fucking sang ceasefire one time when literally the CEO of the recording academy the fucking people who put on the Grammys is like just so you know

we're going to talk about Israel for a while you know what I'm realizing Gaza's mistake is that they have not had enough music festivals 100%. There's not a Coachella in Gaza. They had had a music festival then they might have gotten mentioned and be worthy of simple

Yeah, that's true. That's true. But now that, you know, when Israel is doing, you know, mass bombing campaigns and destroying civilian infrastructure, it's like none of that infrastructure includes a polo field. Dude, it's so hard to have a rave without electricity, bro. Yeah, I know. I know. It sucks. You know what I have to applaud some people for this. Namely the people that were in my DMs on October 8th and haven't said shit since. Yeah. is that I think either it's one of two possibilities either they realized they were wrong and they have since backed down but they feel like I shouldn't say anything publicly because

I don't want to I don't want to like I don't want to look like I was openly wrong you know right yeah yeah yeah yeah or two which is what I what what bothers me about people like Noah Tishby is that either they realize that the logical conclusion of business as usual is the thing that they want yeah if nothing happens gaza gets destroyed right you know and and empires continue to expand the environment continues to get destroyed and all of these terrible logical conclusions of you know uh social critique with no economic critique all of those things happen you know so like i just like just shut up yeah yeah like they're they're playing your shit right next to the to the shit that you're against

right so at at most it's it's uh it cancels each other out right you know yeah so like why do you why are you up in arms about them right just you can you can live your life and just be like the status quo got me you know yeah status quo is uh what things will turn out fine i don't actually need to do shit i can just live my life and watch people get theirs taken yeah It's like what MLK, oh, sorry. It's like what MLK Jr. and Malcolm X said about the white moderate, right? Like, they're the ones who actually stop the progress through bureaucracy. They slow things down to a point where just the status quo allows for suffering.

Yeah. Right. Yes. The people who are on like the other end of the spectrum, they're going to be doing violence regardless. Yeah. Yeah. It is wild too because this is, it's such an inversion of like to see Tish, complain about it is such an inversion of what like the reality is. And I feel like this is the

basis of Hezbara is to take whatever the reality is and do like a complete inversion of it and be like, no, opposite happening. People getting fired for being pro-Israel. You know, people keep going on award shows and being anti-Israel. It's just like to the point at which you're like, I understand half of this is for me to go fucking crazy. you know, to be gaslit into a point where my reality is just like, am I a fucking crazy dude at a bus stop yelling about shit? Like, am I insane? But the other half of it seems to be to keep their own, like,

to keep their own in check, like just to create a nice little bubble, a nice little sphere of a separate reality in which you can kind of like be a Zionist in comfort knowing that you're correct because these people are saying this stuff yes yeah it's uh it's fucking us us all agreeing is hilarious by the way about yeah yes yes we are in a bubble yes yeah yeah exactly absolutely yeah and uh it is you know it's it's something that i've seen too many people do it's one of the reasons i um uh early on uh you know the october november or not um i just uh decided to start yelling at josh gad um i don't know if you guys have followed josh gad is a he's the snowman from frozen he's a snowman from frozen um he's a he's a

famous singing dance and plump dude uh incredibly incredibly famous guy you can look him up uh and uh so threads came out and if you got if you're not familiar with threads threads was like instagram's answer to uh Twitter. And it became like Zionist hub. It was like the place to go. If you were someone who was like, it is my time to be scared. It's scared of anti-Semitism, scared of Arabs. You went to threads. And Josh Gad seemed to be kind of like the guy on threads who was like, I'm going to find every single news story that says anything anti-Semitism. emetic that has happened and I'm going to put that out

just to keep everyone scared and afraid and I couldn't take it anymore so I think I called him like an animated snowman ass coward and then he follows me on threads so he saw it and he unfollowed

me but oh man so anyways my career's in the fucking tubes dude it's just not Josh Gad Josh Gad I don't think he's God, man. So I don't think he's ever going to go on my The WIRE rewatch podcast, which is too bad, because I think he would have been a great guest. Have either of you two?

I don't talk to my best friend anymore, so I get it. Yeah, that's kind of like me and Josh Gadsby. Someone who I literally grew up with from middle school started dating a Zionist and we don't talk anymore. So they don't just steal land. they stole my best friend. Oh, wow. You know, uh, Yadoya, what about you? Do you have, uh, friends that you have lost in the, uh, last, you know, four months or

whatnot? Uh, you know, just my emotionally abusive high school girlfriend, a guy I did a cappella with in college, another dude who I did nothing within college and my manager. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. I lost the man. I forgot about her. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, I would like to hear more about, uh, the managers. So how did that, how did that conversation go down? I had a manager. Oh, sorry, go ahead. Oh, no, no, go, go ahead. No, please, you run it up. Okay, well, we had a conversation, and he was, he had apparently been reaching out to a lot of his clients to sort of air out his feelings on the matter.

The short story is he's obviously a Zionist, grew up as Zionist, and, you know, just picked now. to reveal that and we we talked about it and it was again a situation where I'm coming into this thinking we're having a good faith discussion about like you know maybe you're just not thinking straight about this and on his end it felt like and I did tell him this it felt like oh you're just you're just kind of scanning to make sure I'm not anti-Semitic right and it just felt unfair to me and not good. Yeah. And so obviously, like, we just couldn't work beyond that.

We had, and I, my, what I told him from my perspective is like, I don't believe in nation states. I believe that these things are, they necessarily, the logical conclusion of them is what is happening now. Just every, every state is at a different stage in the same process. They are all, even the, even the term ethno state is misleading because they're all in some sense founded on some ethnic or, or like imagined cultural identity. 100%. That they have to, that they have to fabricate for the state to exist. Yes. Or this national identity to exist.

And so I don't support an Israeli state. I also don't support a Palestinian state because I don't want to see them go through that. and having go through having to be the bad guys in another situation like this. And I told him all of that, and his conclusion was, but don't you think Israel is an exception? Don't you think that if anybody has a nation state,

it should be Jewish people? I was like, no. Because, because imagine. How do you say that out loud? I don't understand people. Well, and also, that's who the tax argument is for, right? Yeah, right.

Yeah. Yes. And also, like, imagine. Imagine a world where Israel is the only nation state that exists. And the, and you look at. What are you working for Njahou's policy department? What's going on? I'm just like, if you see how, see them how I see them,

which are these like constantly expanding corporate, political wings of corporate power, you know, if Israel is the only one that exists, then the version of like global, uh, global, what is it, globalism that like fucking Alex Jones types think is, then that's what that is. Yeah. Then it's real.

Because they have no, they have no option but to expand constantly until they control the whole world. So no, I don't think they should be the only fucking nation state. It's crazy. That is the most insane thing, especially after hearing a very cogent argument against statism

where you're just like, oh shit, that's right. ethno state every state is in essence an ethno state you know and then just being like yeah but shouldn't jews have an ethno state right that was actually their argument in front of the u.n they were like jews deserve the opportunity to colonize because you all colonized you all colonize the native people in the united states turtle island right and so it's like if you don't allow for this exception for jews you are anti-semitic that's what they said on official record. Yes. It's it's it's the most insane argument too because it's like it is you know it's wild how hard how long it's held up truly right well it's a crazy thing.

That's the foundation of Zionism is that argument and and it's also like that Jewish Zionism right there's Christian Zionism that predates it well yes yeah right but so like the the argument itself uh it also works on this like very like liberal level of just kind of like very girl boss type thing where you're just like oh so it's wrong for jews to do a genocide but everyone else gets to isn't that a little bit exclusionary against you and you're just like you've got to be a fucking psycho to bring the idea of inclusivity into a genocide i'm just i'm just picturing patty harrison delivering that line. It's bad for Jews to do a genocide. You mean I can't do a genocide on my birthday?

It's so fucking sick. And just in general, my thoughts on the idea of the right to exist being this like phrase that we've kind of like turned into a meaningless thing. When the idea of it, I think essentially is, at least in the American like consciousness, the right to exist is not just about existing. It's like they have the right to do a genocide. They have the right to do occupation. They have a right to exist as they are existing. And like you wouldn't put it in that, you know, frame. Instead, it's put into the frame of the Holocaust where it's like, haven't they earned the right to this land? Don't they have it? Like, aren't they the exception? to any kind of rules that we would place on any other nation states due to this, due to the

Holocaust. And it's such a, I don't know, it's just such a fucking sickening argument because you're just like, no, no, you don't get the right to do a Holocaust because you survive the Holocaust. That's a fucking weird thing to say. Yeah. I mean, it really just highlights this, the reality that rights are kind of just propped up by violence. Yeah. You know? Yeah. that yeah that you do have the right to do that because you have the force behind you to do that you know yeah um i made this point on my on my podcast a while ago but like when people argue about who can and can't say the end word i'm like yeah if you if you can fight you could say it like i don't know it's like you know it's like what if it's in a song what if it's in the song lyrics

if i if you can fight or i can't find you then it's then you can say it okay but what if they're like Like, you learned all of the lyrics and you're just like, but I've learned all of them, you know? Then do we have to fight? If you also have very convenient Tourette syndrome, then yeah, sure, you got it. All right. Zionists are like, what if I went to the marches? Yeah, right. No straight up.

Yeah. It is, you know, it's a great time to be a comedian in. Can I tell you about how my manager dropped me? yes please please so i didn't even have a conversation with my manager i showcased at this like college thing and there were representatives from various colleges as well as cruises and the u.s military was in attendance and this was day three of the genocide right so my brain was a little foggy and i went up there and i spoke about palestine i brought it up i was like there's a genocide happening everybody should be speaking out on it.

Surprisingly, all of the kids applauded. And then, you know, I had a pretty good set. I swore, which I shouldn't have done because it was meant to be clean, but I was like, I was kind of out of my element. Anyways, I get feedback from my manager, and she is like, the U.S. military hates you. And I was like, it is mutual. That's a credit. Yeah, they were, she was like, you've swore so much, like, you dropped F bombs.

I was like, they dropped real bombs. Yeah, what are you talking about? And they, she told me that the cruise lines hated me more than coronavirus. I was like, God, damn. God, damn. Yeah, so she just stopped responding to my texts and we do not work together anymore. Damn. Wow.

That fucking, you know. Also, there was one college student who had come up to me and she was like, I really loved what she said. You know what I mean? I kind of want to book you for whatever. My former manager walks over, hands her a pamphlet. She's like, these are my other clients. Damn. Wow.

And she and I were having a genuine moment talking about Palestine and this fucking little, you know, garden gnome. That fucking sucks. Yeah, I keep hearing these stories about people losing their, you know, their managers, they're losing their agents. And like a good portion of the stories aren't just like a ghosting that happened. But they're like, first they get yelled at. First, they have like this long drawn-out conversation in which, you know, both people are stating their political, you know, ideologies or, you know, or just like their humanity in the case of people who are pro-Palestinian. And then they just get yelled at by their managers or agents and then fucking, and that's it. I know someone who had to got dropped by their manager, by their agents, and is waiting to fire.

their lawyer because their lawyer also yelled at them but they just they just haven't had the conversation yet where it's like okay well now we can't work together it is uh it is fucking crazy i me and my manager broke up over palestine i think um a while back though this was when i was working at uh i used to work at a j plus which is aljazeera's uh online channel and i had a comedy show with my now wife and i was doing these episodes about like israel and stuff and one day my manager just calls me and he's just wants he just wants to talk about israel with me and um i was you know i was just trying to be nice about it i was like listen you know i get that you think israel's good but israel is not it's very racist you know how we're against racism right

And he was like, well, and the conversation did not go great, but we didn't break up. And then it wasn't until I moved back to L.A. That he gave me the, I don't have the bandwidth to help you get general meetings right now. And I was like, fuck, I think this is his way of breaking up with me. And then Sammy O'Bade had the same manager. And then later, like a few months later, he hits me up. And he said, fuck, I got bandwidthed by our management. manager. He also lost the same one. So I assume it's due to Zionism. That is, uh, yeah. I mean,

that's the biggest crime of the Zionists is making it harder for us to get generals. Yeah. I mean, well, add that to the website cataloging the crimes. Crimes by Israel.com. Check out who's lost their management. Before we go, people who haven't lost their have been very, very outspoken in how pro-Israel they are. I want to play a returning Bad Hezbar champion, Daniel Ryan Spalding. I don't know if you guys have watched any of this dude's videos. He is a, he's not Jewish. He loves Israel. And man, man, That's weird. His videos.

I think that's totally organic. Yeah, totally organic and not... And comes from nothing in particular. No, no. Yeah, it's just come straight from the heart and has nothing to do with anything other than love. And here is a recent video of his. Figured it out yet. Let me explain something.

Never in the history of the world has there been a genocide that could be ended by a terrorist group handing over hostages and surrendering. See, that's not how. genocide works. Hitler wasn't like, hey, hand over our hostages and surrender Jews and we'll stop killing you. It's a war. You see, what's actually happening is that the Islamist Nazi terrorist group that's constantly telling us that they want to genocide the Jews and destroy Western civilization is trying to genocide the Jews and take over Western civilization. It's called ideological subversion. I, there's like, there's only so much you can take a this before you want to set yourself on fire. You can't convince me that's not an ostrich.

What the fuck? This is a real person. Not AI? No, this is not AI. Where did that ostrich get that fabulous coat? Jesus Christ. I feel like I would I would take a step back and look at the quality of my argument if every time I talked about my ideological opponent, I had to also be like, like the Iran-backed Nazi really, really bad terror and negative very bad group of people. Yeah.

They keep adding notches. Yeah. It's like what is the no good very bad, no good day? Yeah, yeah. It's a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Hamas. Lemony Snicket presents Hamas. Yeah, but this guy's been like,

you know, his whole angle is that he's gay and he's, loves Jews, which cool. Always welcome. Because those are like mutually exclusive. Yeah, right. But to him, he's very much a place for the angle that it is mutually exclusive. And his big target is usually for some reason purple-haired girl.

He mentions purple-haired girl at least once a video. And it's always in the context of they like Palestine. We'll continue with this fucking rad of. That's why there's a bunch of purple-haired girl. purple-haired girls roaming the streets chanting, there is only one solution, anti-fado revolution. They do have really good chance.

So wake the fuck up, stop being a bunch of hipster Nazis, and leave these Jews alone. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm a power gay at the Sundance Film Festival, and I'm gonna find some gorgeous Jewish producer to hook me up with a TV show, because I have a genius level IQ.

I'm fabulously funny and I single-handedly ended global I'm sorry but he ends the video he ends it with the clearly anti-Semitic trope of I'm at Sundance now I'm gonna go find a Jew

to give me a TV show this fucking guy Zionists hate anti-Semitism when they're not the ones doing it if they don't get to do it they are so upset they're like you're doing it no it's our thing Of all the things that I thought would be yassified throughout history. Now, obviously the word yes, that's first.

Sure, of course. Of course. Yeah, that's how you get yass. But, like, I thought genocide would be way down the list. I know, I mean. I know. I know. I didn't expect it to be so quickly yossified.

Yeah. It just seems like, you know, there's just so many other things to yossify before you get to Queen. Let the people eat nothing. Yes, Prime Minister. Fucking, hey. Yeah, it is, you know, the state of Zionist comedy is fucking bleak. It's fucking bleak. And, you know, but the difference is, is they all get to keep their managers. Yeah. That's a lot of fun. And jobs. Yeah.

I mean, do we want to talk about what's his name? Yeah. I mean, before we get out of here, this is talking about video that blew up. Now listen, when you put your clips online as a stand-up comic, one of the things you're hoping for is for people to see it. And you want, you know, to gain a little bit of traction. You want to get some followers and whatnot. Dan Adute did this recently, only to have his video blown up by a stitch from Miami Biolic. I think that's her name. And is, I'm not, is she Blossom? Is that who she is? uh yes yes yeah that's what she's famous for um also was you know very much trying to be the next

jeopardy host also didn't get that and has pivoted to genocide apology uh and uh yeah so we have a little stitch here from stand-up comedian and guy who i did a honica stand-up comedy show with at the scurball center a few years back um dan adute and uh we're just gonna check it out To the sea, Palestine will be free. I'm like, this is the new from the window to the wall. Yeah, it's a little genocidal, but the beat slaps. Oh boy. Yikes. Listen to ours, they're awful.

Because Jews like to convince you with a bunch of facts and minutia rather than just sticking to a catchy tune, right? They're like, okay, guys, we're gonna do one of those chants, okay? It goes, when I say X, you say Y, X, Y, X, Y, okay? here we go. When I say that in 1948 there was a UN partition plan giving a separate state of Palestine alongside a state of Israel and the Palestinians rejected it and the Israelis accepted it and then there was the war of independence. I'm sorry but so we're going to this is a this is the setup and punchline is just going to be a long string of Hasbara or pretty much all

fake facts and what you're basically taught in school if you're Jewish and even if you're not Jewish about Israeli history so yeah enjoy he knows how he's adopting a Jewish voice as a character

right right yes yes he was like I'm not anti-temedic he sounds like a dog he sounds like a dog yeah I'm m mhm a m m m mhm Yeah, I love This is how Jews sound

And you should trust me as the voice of Judaism Right, yeah It is, you know You gotta take on the anti-Semitic character Of the person who you are You know, defending in this case, I guess And this is clearly an instance Of a joke of attrition

Right? Oh, 100% Set up in punchline There's no actually funny bit to it It's just you keep going Until you wear the audience down This is like this is the goal is claptor at the end Where people just go, damn, you memorize that

You said on it stage, they steal energy. Right. Even on stage, when they're supposed to be providing laughter to the audience, providing energy, they're like, no, no, no. What we do is we take everywhere. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it is like, it's draining to watch. And the crazy thing about it is like what the, the stitch that Maim does, it like, it, it like doubles the factor of tired. Because you're watching, like, it's like you're watching a parallel universe where she's, she's laughing, but you're not really sure at what. Yeah, it would be like, oh, sorry, go ahead. It's just sitting through her laughing at this video, it was just a reminder that every time somebody stitches a video or every, or like when they, when they post like a video of them entering a room or whatever, like they were, you're doing this again. You're watching this again. Yes.

And you're still, and you still find this funny? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you don't know where the punchline is because you're laughing throughout this whole video where the expectation is obviously for you to laugh at the end when it's finally over. Okay, cool, cool, great. Yeah, it is weird because you're, you know, everyone knows when you're watching a stitch. You're essentially watching a lie, which is why you usually like do a joke out of the stitch. Like, you know, you play along as if, you know, you're, you know, being,

You're not playing as if you've heard it for the first time. You're like adding to the joke somehow. That's usually what a good stitch is. This is just her pretending she's never, she didn't just watch this video and go like, I got to do a few takes of me laughing at this and I got to make it seem real, real. Yeah, it is hard, but, you know.

It was the Six Day War where all the Arab Army has attacked us. And again, against all us, we want. Yeah, no, we don't. We don't. It is, it really, it is, it really hurts but you know he's like it would be the new window to the walls but they've blown up every building in gaza yeah there's no windows there's no walls left yeah yeah i mean it's um man okay it's tragic on several levels one west side comedy club fuck that place

um felicia madison the owner was uh was tweeting all the time so racist shit about uh palestines very early on in the conflict um they actually they did an episode uh uh would Jeffrey Asmus was talking to her on the comedy seller podcast, if that's of any interest to anybody. I have that exact clip you're talking about. Oh, I'm not bothered it. I have to. There's no point in doing this, I'm not going to read it out. I don't, it will not hurt me.

No, no, it's not going to hear you for this. She's going to be upset me. Oh, okay. I mean, so after a few days later, um, you wrote me. Disappointed to see Jeffrey on your lineup. Even UTS was UTS. UTA United Town agency

You wrote us Okay UTA is next to ask on the keyword UTA Drop Susan Sarandon He is harassing me And very pro-Palestinian What are you going to do emoji I know what you're going to do

So if you're not sure what that was That was a Booker The person who owns Is it West Side Comedy? That's what I thought initially But I think it's just a booker Who is writing to

other clubs to try and get pro-Palestinian comedians blacklisted. I had Zionists reach out to every single comedy club in Los Angeles to make sure that I don't get booked there. Jokes on them, I already don't get booked there. You know what I mean?

I'd be sick if some of them hadn't heard of you. They're like, oh, this guy's pretty cool. They're like, now he's available, you know? Yeah. Regarding that that clip of Dan, so I also have some some history with him. I used to work with him on a show

for the crew with Kevin James, which he was on. I wrote for and used a fake name. Keenan A. Kell was the name, if anybody's wondering. Nice. And I reposted that clip

and what did I even say? I think you wrote Jesus Christ. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. Well, he's since blocked me so I can't actually view my own tweet but he responded

Hey Yadoye it's me Dan remember I gave you a ride home from set We would laugh and talk about comedy and stuff Not that we're close friends or anything But I expect you to reach out to directly If you had an issue rather than pile on With all the other anti-Semites Love the tacitly calling me an anti-Semite

And I responded here You're right man I should have reached out directly I'm just curious if he you understand what you're doing here both performance wise and genocide denial wise i think is the best burn i've ever pretty great um and went on with the with a couple of things uh i just don't understand how the grossly misinterpreted facts you outlined in this quote unquote bit could possibly justify killing nearly 30 000 people uh and he finally after almost a week responded today

well at least you're classy about it go ahead take your screenshot get your likes good good luck buddy to which I responded you're making jokes very bad and boring ones mind you about a genocidal campaign that's building toward a broader conflict in the Middle East if I were you I'd worry more about how I look

in the broad scope of history than whether the people rightfully criticizing me are classy or not so you know as someone who hates conflict I'm pretty proud of myself right now I was a great exchange Kudos. That was, we call that a deadly exchange. No, that was very, very good. I mean, and listen, I fully expect to hear from Dan as well. I mean, it's something that I've low-key avoided because I just know so many fucking Zionists in the comedy community that I'm just like, oh, man, like, you know, fucking how many, I don't even know how many bridges I'm burning. from i think you made a perfect point which is just like well what are the jokes you're making here actually about like yeah it's the justification of a continued genocide against the gossens

and under the fucking totally weasily uh guys of your slogans scare me yes like fuck but also i'm jealous of them yeah also i'm jealous i wish they were catchy yeah yeah it is it's like uh you know, it is one other words of When Jews took pride in the copy we wrote I know Those were the days But yeah, it's it's sickening to

Kind of just like watch people Completely For lack of a better word Appropriate the You know Tramas that others are taken right now And being like well I'm also dealing with trauma Because I'm hearing a phrase

and I'm imagining a genocide. What if a genocide happened to me is the fucking most disgusting thing to say while a genocide is being perpetrated in your name, in the name of protecting you specifically? It's one of the reasons that I think, I mean, me personally and then also, I'm sure Michael, finds it morally abhorrent

when people are Jewish and decide to either not say anything or to fully, you know, back the state of Israel doing destruction because it's like they're saying it's for our benefit and that's the most fucked up thing. That's why I have to say. I mean it's like you doya said it's like first off it comes from human decency right like it doesn't matter what religion you are

no religion should support a genocide. But then on top of it you add the added context of what happened to Jews in World War II you had the added context my family there were people with my family that were murdered in the Holocaust you know what I mean? And so it's like uh how could i possibly allow the same thing to happen to palestinians right now right like it would be a disservice to the people who died and to the people who made it out yeah yeah 100% and at the very least like if you're going to do a joke about it prepare to be dragged

i don't know what to fucking tell you yeah yeah i mean just like i won't even go that far i'll just say write better jokes. Yeah. Don't post the shit. Right. Yeah. You know? I was offended first as a comedian.

Yes. Second as a Jew. It's truly not a crime to bomb. It is not a, that is part of the process. That's up to the MCJ actually, right? Depends where and who and what the target is. Yeah.

Yeah. What we'll say is that Palestinians have the legal right to self-defense according to the UN. Yeah. They can bomb at all the comedy clubs that they want. Yeah. But I just like, for me to really believe that you're an actual comedian, I have to know that you're scrutinizing your own work and looking at a clip that is obviously bad and saying, okay, I'll keep this for the records. I'm not going to post this. Like, really, that might be worse than actually what he said. Yeah.

Only because there are plenty of other comedians. that are funny whose jokes have just as fucked up implications. A hundred percent. That joke right there. Yeah. I talked to David Wendgrove, if you're familiar, on my podcast. He's the co-author of Dawn of Everything with David Graber, who also wrote debt the first 5,000 years, bullshit jobs, all these other books.

Yeah. And one of the most important statements I got out of that conversation from him is that Every thing and everyone is political. And it's just a matter of whether or not you are deliberate about that. Whether or not you do it on purpose. And this is my message to every other fucking comedian, regardless of where you stand on Israel and Palestine and genocide happening in front of your face. Like, I think we collectively as people need to start being cognizant of what the fuck we're saying

and taking responsibility for what we're saying. comedians have this bullshit like dual notion that our words are all are at once so worth protecting under First Amendment rights but also don't mean shit so you got to pick one you got to pick one either you're doing bullshit

fart jokes that don't matter or you're justifying genocide on stage and you want to be able to do that with impunity right you know via fart jokes Yeah. Like I personally, I don't believe you can't say anything on stage. I think you can joke about whatever the fuck you want. There's an audience, there is an audience for everything. Everybody can find their place. But if somebody calls you on this shit, you better be able to stick up for what the fuck you believe in. You fucking bitch. I swear to God. And you better be able to fight. You better be able to fight. Yeah, it all poised into that.

You can't just go out there doing, you know, being openly genocidal and then being like, you've hurt my feelings. I gave you a ride once. Yeah, who gives a fuck? Who cares? I would have got home either way. That is, I love that that is kind of like the comedian equivalent of like, I marched with you in 2020.

Yeah. But I gave you a ride one time. Come on. Yes. Now you won't look the other way. We did drive through a Black Lives Matter protest, but that's besides the point. That doesn't matter. They were blocking the road.

On that beautiful note, I want to thank you guys both for coming on this podcast, talking about comedy, talking about what a wonderful world it is, and talking about Hasbara. Thank you guys. Thanks for having me. Where can people find your work, Michael? Check me out at the Palestine pod.

Palestinepod.com, the PalestinePod on Instagram. And yeah, I'm around. I'm doing shows in New York. I don't know when this is coming out, but I'll be like today. New York. Oh, is it? Okay. I'll be in New York this weekend.

I'm opening a show in Brooklyn on the 10th. Beautiful. Beautiful. Check him out. Check up the Palestine pod. Very good podcast. You get a lot of well-deserved praise. I watch your clips.

And I'm like, this is a great fucking show. And a show that has been around for a while, too, which I think is noteworthy because, you know. We didn't pop up on October 8th. Exactly. It's like my ass was making the Wire Rewatch podcasts. And then at some point I said, fuck, I've got to yell about something. So I appreciate your work. And you do a great job.

Yadoya, where can people find your shit? man i'm just vibing right now until i find another job so you can just follow me on instagram twitter at yadoy a on everything or at yaday underscore on everything uh that's yed i'm i'm not doing shit i'll probably just be playing playing bass somewhere just vibing you know i love hanging out hang out at the show at brooklyn yeah i'll come through man yeah you guys hang out let me know how it goes and all of you out there thank you so much for listening patreon dot com slash bad has Barra to support email us any questions, comments, concerns, stories, fucking, you know, send a voice memo about the time you spent a summer in a kibbutz in Israel and

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